Well, fine... we are looking at tanks firing at targets 3000meters away. But where are the results? What is a percentage of hits? For example, US M1A1 with XM21 ballistic computer - M256 gun - M829A1 APFSDS accuracy of 80% at targets 2.4x2.4meters at 2800meters away. And this is from full stop.
@deathstrike44 If you mean that Type-90's FCS dispersion is less than +/-15cm at 2km, then it is not surprising. FCS is electronic system and thus it is very accurate. M1A2 FCS dispersion is 0.00035mrad. T-80s is 0.00060mrad. Such accuracy allows to hit a standard target at very long distances.
The problem is that mechanical stuff, like round and gun has much worse accuracy than electronic systems.
So, if FCS can give a fire solution at 30x30cm target at 2km, it doesn't mean that a gun and...
@deathstrike44 ... and round can do it. F.e. I've seen German firing tables for HE and Sabot rounds from 80s for L44 Rheinmetal gun, and vertical and horizontal dispersion of round was around 65-80cm at 2km. That means that at such distance it would hit a standard 8x8feet target anyway, but sure not 30x30cm.
I supposed that similar tables or statistics are available from Type-90's trials. It would be nice to compare.
in second world war germans have imressive tanks but it limited americans have like tinned sherman tank however american indisturies can increase rate of tank... i think quantitiy is so important...
@asapsh Just like how America is hated by the world? All they have are fake imaginery allies. Don't see the world stop trading with China because they are hatedby so many? ;)
@pakjai People in the World know that Chinese are people who chase only money. So, all countries just want to exploit opportunities there. In China money is everything. Chinese sell poisonous milk even to babies there. So the government know that people are OK as long as it gets people to chase money. People do not complain even though democracy is not given. That has nothing to do with people in the world. That is why Chinese cannot get respect. I hope you understand this basic thing.
@sillyspam People in the World know that Chinese are people who chase only money. So, all countries just want to exploit opportunities there. In China money is everything. Chinese sell poisonous milk even to babies there. So the government know that people are OK as long as it gets people to chase money. People do not complain even though democracy is not given. That has nothing to do with people in the world. That is why Chinese cannot get respect. I hope you understand this basic thing.
they track and identified the target using optical means. once the target was identified and track, the gunner will use laser designator for ranging. there's also a less accurate optical ranging and the russian are considering mounting a milimetric radar on their new T-95.
A this moving type90 tank fires at the target which there is to distance more than 3000m. The muzzle velocity of 120mmAPFSDS and 120mmHEAT-MP is 1650m/s and 1140m/s each. It was the about 2.8 seconds till the target[01:27-01:31]
that's now standard engagement range.
starknight97 1 month ago
do this at night and your gunner will be blind haha :D
Xmk2123 6 months ago
honestly that thing looks identical to a leopard.....
THEIRA21 7 months ago
Well, fine... we are looking at tanks firing at targets 3000meters away. But where are the results? What is a percentage of hits? For example, US M1A1 with XM21 ballistic computer - M256 gun - M829A1 APFSDS accuracy of 80% at targets 2.4x2.4meters at 2800meters away. And this is from full stop.
Are similar results available for Type90?
BitnikGr 1 year ago
@BitnikGr
I heard type 90 can fire 30cm×30cm target with 90% accuracy at 2km.
But this is for FCS,I'm not sure how the 120mm/L44SG works at longer distance:0.4mil at 4km?
Sorry for my poor English,I can't explain it well...
deathstrike44 1 year ago
@deathstrike44 If you mean that Type-90's FCS dispersion is less than +/-15cm at 2km, then it is not surprising. FCS is electronic system and thus it is very accurate. M1A2 FCS dispersion is 0.00035mrad. T-80s is 0.00060mrad. Such accuracy allows to hit a standard target at very long distances.
The problem is that mechanical stuff, like round and gun has much worse accuracy than electronic systems.
So, if FCS can give a fire solution at 30x30cm target at 2km, it doesn't mean that a gun and...
BitnikGr 1 year ago
@deathstrike44 ... and round can do it. F.e. I've seen German firing tables for HE and Sabot rounds from 80s for L44 Rheinmetal gun, and vertical and horizontal dispersion of round was around 65-80cm at 2km. That means that at such distance it would hit a standard 8x8feet target anyway, but sure not 30x30cm.
I supposed that similar tables or statistics are available from Type-90's trials. It would be nice to compare.
BitnikGr 1 year ago
@deathstrike44
>30cm×30cm at 2km
Hey,that's not only FCS ability but also including real firing of APFSDS(JM33:JP version of German DM33).
Type 90's auto-aiming system,ballistic computer and calculator(produced by Mitsubishi Electric) often do some greater works.
cble1e418 1 year ago
@cble1e418
Really? Are there any differences of manufacture precision between German 120mm and Japanese lisence produced one?
However the control system is superior,it's impossible to improve the gun ability...
deathstrike44 1 year ago
no doubt JAPANESE QUALITY IS LIGHT YEARS FAR BETTER THAN CHINA
rohitkumarindia 1 year ago
in second world war germans have imressive tanks but it limited americans have like tinned sherman tank however american indisturies can increase rate of tank... i think quantitiy is so important...
theturkishmania 1 year ago
As an INDIAN I LOVE TO SEE JAPAN STRONGER THAN CHINA
CHINA IS A THREAT TO INDIA ALSO
rohitkumarindia 2 years ago 37
@rohitkumarindia As countries with democracy and freedum, Japan and India can be allied. China is hated by all countries in Asia except North Korea.
asapsh 1 year ago
@asapsh Just like how America is hated by the world? All they have are fake imaginery allies. Don't see the world stop trading with China because they are hatedby so many? ;)
pakjai 1 year ago
@pakjai People in the World know that Chinese are people who chase only money. So, all countries just want to exploit opportunities there. In China money is everything. Chinese sell poisonous milk even to babies there. So the government know that people are OK as long as it gets people to chase money. People do not complain even though democracy is not given. That has nothing to do with people in the world. That is why Chinese cannot get respect. I hope you understand this basic thing.
asapsh 1 year ago
@asapsh so thats why over half the world has free trade agreements with china? wow.... the world must really hate them alot....
sillyspam 1 year ago
@sillyspam People in the World know that Chinese are people who chase only money. So, all countries just want to exploit opportunities there. In China money is everything. Chinese sell poisonous milk even to babies there. So the government know that people are OK as long as it gets people to chase money. People do not complain even though democracy is not given. That has nothing to do with people in the world. That is why Chinese cannot get respect. I hope you understand this basic thing.
asapsh 1 year ago
@rohitkumarindia
your attitude, is pathetic......
534nw00d 10 months ago
@rohitkumarindia China threat Thailand too!
bigboom2006 7 months ago
@bigboom2006 then lets join our hands together whether u from THAILAND, INDIA, JAPAN, PHILIPINES KOREA !!!!!! the only option
rohitkumarindia 7 months ago
@rohitkumarindia can your country offer philippines at least a battalion of Type-90s?
nakazatoGTR 6 months ago
@rohitkumarindia i'm from Thailand! :D
Chinese said Thailand are their brother but they support
weapon to Cambodia to fight with us.
bigboom2006 6 months ago
@bigboom2006 that's cause your the old republic of china and china wants you back into their fold.
starknight97 1 month ago
@rohitkumarindia they are not stronger better tech here and there but japan couldn't stand against china's numbers.
starknight97 1 month ago
it's very impressive.
I don't understand how modern tanks work - is it a laser target designator, or something else?
ManicParroT 2 years ago 26
they track and identified the target using optical means. once the target was identified and track, the gunner will use laser designator for ranging. there's also a less accurate optical ranging and the russian are considering mounting a milimetric radar on their new T-95.
phadil 2 years ago
@ManicParroT there's a laser range calculator + ballistic computer
Cnupoc 1 year ago
thats kinda ironic, at like 0:30, thers tank with sum kool camoflauge, and then on top thers this brite red flag
ReAmemiyaFREAK 2 years ago
they use a red flag because they are on practice
fuUuckCCP 2 years ago 3
your not A TANKER RED FLAG IT MEANS THE TANK IS GUNS HOT ,GREEN IS BARRELS CLEARED MISSION CAPABLE
DRAGONZOOOM 2 years ago 6
JDM Tank!
lJavieR7l 3 years ago
Made in Japan=Quality:)
edtaylor06 3 years ago 87
made in japan a famous brand name
rohitkumarindia 2 years ago 11
Remeber that the tank was courtesy of General Dynamics, an American Company.
RSprtn117 2 years ago
Thanks to Dr. Deming
DonMeaker 2 years ago
@edtaylor06 ur mom is quality
chinaownseverything 1 year ago
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Leo 2 is the best
woodss3 3 years ago
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any ways a-10 kill em all
jack99889988 4 years ago
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Chinese Type 99 has most powerful APFSDS round in the world in service at the moment.
otester 4 years ago
chinese fuck quality in the other hand... will reduce that type 99 crap into ashes before a shell lands on its armor.
drifterZ00 3 years ago 2
Majority of posts here are heavily biased by nationalism, aka. ignorance.
otester 3 years ago
The tank of the East where ability for long-distance shooting such as Russia and China is low depends on 9M119/9M119M Anti-Tank Missile.
It is done launch of by 125mm gun.
These ATM is speed of about Mach 2. As for the big weak point, slower than the speed of an APFSDS and the HEAT-MP.
hugaku36 4 years ago 16
A this moving type90 tank fires at the target which there is to distance more than 3000m. The muzzle velocity of 120mmAPFSDS and 120mmHEAT-MP is 1650m/s and 1140m/s each. It was the about 2.8 seconds till the target[01:27-01:31]
hugaku36 4 years ago 15