This is magnificent. Ashkenazy is a wonderful conductor and an even better pianist. And I have nothing but endless love and respect for Beethoven and this masterpiece.
That being said...
Does anyone else find it hilarious to watch that little Chinese lady sing in operatic German? Something about opera singers always makes me chuckle, only because people just don't look right when producing such a powerful sound. Add the Chinese/German factor and this is chucks.
I was thinking, maybe it is a crazy idea. But what if we can get musicians from around the world, lets say secondary or superior schools via the internet with web cam and a central web cam on a conductor and record and post Beethoven's Symphony No. 9?
The conductor will need serveral pc and web cams pointed at him from every section of the orchestra and the central web cam can be directed at him,
Ashkenazy is undeniably amazing! Grew up looking at a poster of his Birmingham Symphony hall project which hung in my mums surgery waiting room... it is now on my wall and his music firmly in my heart!
The orchestra has problem w/ articulating the melody line. The accents, timing, and drama isn't there. The conductor also conducts poorly. The chorus seems on the timid side. Everyone is on the legato side instead being on the fortissimo side. I think the Japanese orchestra has problems with Beethoven's assertive, powerful and robust imagination because that's not in their subdued cultural vein, .....but on the other hand, they did fought damn crazy in WWII.
@freeqwerqwer They are following the director which is what they were supposed to do. They could have done whatever the conductor requested (surprised?).
@freeqwerqwer You've already shown your ignorance and a smart mouth who easily gets his feelings hurt. And I question if you are a musician. Again, they are following the director as anyone knows they should. If the director wants it a certain way then he takes them there. Is that simple enough for you?
@freeqwerqwer It is obvious you are unbalanced and inferior (what a combination); seek help before it's too late. By the way, you may argue with yourself (which you probably do anyway) because I've removed myself from your cheap low life discussion. No more responses from me to you because you are mentally unstable.
His "conducting" looks like it makes no sense to me. This really does just looks like a man waving a baton around. Still a good performance from the orchestra though...
Let him "learn" from the masters, like Carlos Kleiber, Ernest Ansermet....
Does he EVER watch how do "the professionals" conduct an orchestra? I paid more than $350 per ticket to see Conductor Kleiber. And it WAS A PLEASURE! I would not pay $25.00 TO SEE THIS MAN... he does need a LOT of "rope" to know what CONDUCTING is about!!!
but with his profile and connections he's conducting all the biggest orchestra and unfortunately no-one (critics included) has the courage to say anything about it, on the contrary, most of the time the critic blame the orchestras and not his crap conducing!
@Curatorialsense conventional technique is just as unworthy of worship as conventional musicmanship. Furtwangler was accused of having no technique, but he had his ways. I'm not saying ashkenazy is a great conductor, but I think he has a unique mindset regarding music and his conducting suits his own musicality. of course, many people dislike ashkenazy as a musician or pianist, so you might as well dislike his conducting.
@Curatorialsense I don't want to be contentious or presumptuous, but unfortunately commenting on youtube you can't do much to avoid both. just my opinions :/
@Curatorialsense he has a unique way of communicating with the orchestra. I don't think he obsesses about bringing out subtle details with literal gestures; he communicates a general pulse and energy, and is happy to let the players feed off his energy to resolve issues of phrasing.his interpretations aren't the most colorful, his textures not the most expressive, but his interpretations always have clear, strong pulse and a wonderful sense of unity. Less is more in this case, this is my opinion
It looks like he could use some anti-histamine before going up the podium. Anyway, he is not any worse than Karajan although not as good as Klemperer.
OMG, I am always surprised how discussions about such beautiful music can escalate in such a way - about a masterpiece which will always be remembered as "Ode an die Freude". Unfortunately, I can't see much Freude in those discussions below.
Unfortunately, that's how any "discussion" with dumdumdumduuuum here tends to end. He's nothing more than a hateful troll who can dish it out but refuses to take it in return.
I was a victim of his back in August. I'll never think of the Mahler 5th the same way again...
I've been a professional conductor for 32 years in New York who's conducted numerous concerts at Lincoln Center, Carnegie Hall, as well as many times in Europe, Asia, Russia (at the Tchaikovsky Conservatory) Canada, Central and South America, Ukraine. I know a thing or two about the art. Where have YOU conducted?
We all have opinions in matters of art. What is not opinion, but fact, is that over the past 10-15 major orchestras in Berlin, Cleveland, Boston, Munich, L.A., Chicago, New York, Amstredam, London, Philly and Leipzig hired new music directors. Ashkenazky was passed over for all of these MD positions. If he is unequivocally "the greatest" living conductor then surely one of these esteemed ensembles would have hired him, correct?
Hey buddy, I think it's time for you to leave the conducting to the 'big boys'. Watching that pathetic video of yours performing that unknown and truly horrendous piece, you've obviously wasted the last 32 years of your life trying to 'make it' in the classical music business (not to mention the last few days, when you've been desperately trying to make a point).
I guess all this is a stunt to revive your defunct career...? Certainly hasn't worked! :) All the best
My career is doing just fine thanks. I'm working in Vegas and Chicago this week and executives from EMI and the Salzburg Ballet are interested in recording and choreographing my "horrendous piece." If the deals go down I'll give you a shout.
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Of course you agree with what nycsym said, because all you wanna-be conductors all sleep and fornicate in the same bed. You are all nothing but slaves to show business. Shame on you (and if you think you can impress us with your shitty little performance of the Scriabin Concerto JLGosselin, think again).
I like Ashkenazy in certain repertory, Rachmaninoff especially. But as I said, you'd be hard pressed to find many (if any) folks (besides dum) who consider him "the greatest alive." I know a few people in the Cleveland Orchestra who worked with him and they were not impressed. Had they been impressed perhaps he would have succeeded Dohnanyi instead of Welser-Most (who hasn't made such a great impression either.)
I have to say you are probably the most idiotic viewer Ive ever read on youtube; What gives you any right to criticize or gossip about musicians whose contributions have made a difference to the musical world at large? I think you simply enjoy going online and trying to prove how smart you are, but it only betrays your ignorance. And try changing your name, unless you like being a reality show buffoon.
i'm sorry you don't agree with my comments. I can only refer you to what "nycsym" wrote, which I think is spot on.
As for the name thing, I can only assume that you do not have the nerve to show to us all who/what you really are by hiding behind an anonymous profile.
@JLGosselin12345 Unfortunately, your name thing is only ego, which is clearly evident in your writing and posts. And I doubt many people will now take you seriously to engage you in the future. Discretion would serve you better, but I doubt you have any. Certainly not in your conducting.
So let me get this straight. You're saying 'leave the conducting to the big boys', to someone who is famous enough to have a Wikipedia page? (I'm not kidding, he really does have a Wikipedia page.)
You, sir, have once again proved that you're a tactless douche who will not hesitate to pounce on someone better than him to make himself feel good. Keep it up; in the end, the joke's on you!
I saw him in Cleveland a number of times and he could be terrific in Russian repertory and deadly boring in Mozart or Haydn. I know musicians in orchestras in Cleveland and NY and they don't believe he's anything special. Good, but not a big deal. I saw him conduct the BBC Phil. at Royal Albert Hall in Brahms' #3. Musicians could be seen rolling their eyes in derision as he couldn't navigate the tricky syncopated rhythms in the opening movement.
hermoso en cualquier idioma, tener la oportunidad de escucharlo en vivo es simplemente indiscriptible, lastima que no encuentro el video dode la interpretan en la Sala Nezahualcóyotl del Centro Cultural Universitario UNAM, claro esta.
@artymowycz Oftentimes instruments do break even piano strings. Smart "guy" he has the knowledge to make the necessary repairs and continue his magnificent playing of this great work.
I like Karajan's, but there does seem to be something almost dated about his conduction. These times don't call for his European nationalism, or for Bernstein's Ode to Freedom; they call for something else all together.
You egomaniac, next time instead of talking about things of which you know absolutely nothing, you can remove your lower ribs and blow yourself, if you haven't done so already!
I love Karajan's- But this is brilliant, this is brilliant. I have heard some terrible interpretations of this, some good ones, some brilliant ones, but this has to be in the top two. Ashkenazy is brilliant.
@dsp0507 That's true (if the matter is baritone Sergei Leiferkus), but he recently recorded some parts as Telramund , Pizarro and even Alberich, all roles in German.
@dsp0507 Woe, nothing gets past you! Have you ever thought of auditioning for "Mastermind"? Your category could be "The Bleeding Obvious". (apologies to John Cleese for plagiarising)
yeah but most people{myself included} "agree" with karajan's more slow paced and very detailed direction, its just a matter of taste which varies with every person
tempo also depends very very much of the personal mood, constitiution ... in which a person is, whether she/he prefers slower x or faster y motion etc.
also Karajan did this in different tempi - by the way
if you hate how the conductor is early on the beat, don't watch michael tilson thomas, who is always early. and don't argue with me, I've performed under him.
I have played under Ashkenazy many times and he is an excellent conductor. One night he played two concertos.Of course he is one of the greatest pianists.
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The thing I don't like about this orchestra is that i feel them no passion in the piece... It's like.. they are only following the score and the indications of Ashkenazy, but they aren't really feeling it =/ Anyway, it's a great perfomance.
Can't say enough good about this - brought tears to my eyes - outstanding conducting and playing - soprano was flawless - other lead singers very good - my favorite on CD was Solti 1972, and on TV a PBS show in the 70's by Shaw/Atlanta - this recording is as good or better than any of those. Amazing that it would be available with decent quality on YouTube. Just amazing.
a true master conductor is somebody who gives his audience emotion. should we compare askenazy to karajan or toscanini or bohm or stokowski or bernstein? all of them have their different recordings of this piece, all, and i mean ALL, are genuine masterpieces. the question of "the best conductor" is altogether impossible to answer, as countless conductors have achieved this. they shouldn't be compared.
as for the sportscoat, i tend to agree =P
it's the new fashion for concert dress these days.
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it wasnt the best performance but they were good. i sang this with he NEW MEXICO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA N CHOIR n we did this song so fantastic, awesome, spectacular, i mean it was an out of this world performance. we were told that it was the best performance so far heard by anybody n we got good reviews from newspapers n magazine. i mean everything was bigger, broader, n it was definitely a choir and orchestra of greatness. we cnt release the performance bc we aint paid, we r talented volunteers!
Браво!
RomanzonKruzo 3 weeks ago
Wonderful conductor, thanks for this
leporello56 4 weeks ago
This is magnificent. Ashkenazy is a wonderful conductor and an even better pianist. And I have nothing but endless love and respect for Beethoven and this masterpiece.
That being said...
Does anyone else find it hilarious to watch that little Chinese lady sing in operatic German? Something about opera singers always makes me chuckle, only because people just don't look right when producing such a powerful sound. Add the Chinese/German factor and this is chucks.
MrStrangeSensation 1 month ago
SEE the guy at 8:43 ........ he was reading : "MADE IN CHINA"
xotahunter 2 months ago
Magneto became a conductor!!!!
xotahunter 2 months ago
he went for the high score beat the final boss on highest difficulty
746c 2 months ago
@8:43 still can tune picolo.... BOSS
isaaccya 3 months ago
would be nice if that Baritone could speak German. ".... veerden... sanfta"?
Bitte... "alle Menschen werden Brüder wo dein sanfter Flügel weillt"
proszel 3 months ago
Beethoven was, in the best sense of the expression, *the* Drama Mama.
musicalix 3 months ago
4:55 to finally get to the point... that's what classical music is all about!
Cosmide 4 months ago
The best Beethoven 9th on YouTube.
ratboygenius 5 months ago
Maravilhoso concerto!!!!!!!!!!
NMPLage 5 months ago
Now I can comprehend the immensity of life.
PierFrancescMicciche 5 months ago
Brilliant! Thanks...
PRomeTHeuSaRTs 6 months ago
you can hear my latest piano composition by searching "Ballade of the stars". Click on first video.
ThinkingChristian29 7 months ago
when 3 year old cellists learn "ode to joy" we should give them the beginning of this movement instead =)
Mizzles240 7 months ago
I was thinking, maybe it is a crazy idea. But what if we can get musicians from around the world, lets say secondary or superior schools via the internet with web cam and a central web cam on a conductor and record and post Beethoven's Symphony No. 9?
The conductor will need serveral pc and web cams pointed at him from every section of the orchestra and the central web cam can be directed at him,
bohemoth1 7 months ago
@bohemoth1 Search for "Simone Young conducting Hamburger Philharmonics". Is this what you mean?
davtra 6 months ago
Cool, Leslie Nielsen does the dirigent :)
Stalky24 8 months ago
well it's a shame that Beethoven couldn't hear this one , cause it's so good !
sometimesilovelife 8 months ago
What did Vladimir do at 4:58, just after he wiped his nose?
davtra 8 months ago
@davtra put his handkerchief back into his pocket.. then continued his professional conducting.
kingafterbang 8 months ago
@kingafterbang I was looking at the baton. I think he did the chicken dance.
davtra 8 months ago
@davtra ooh, apologies, most likely just tempo movement to keep everyone together. (i.e left, up, down, right i believe it is)
kingafterbang 8 months ago
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Bishting 8 months ago
Ashkenazy is undeniably amazing! Grew up looking at a poster of his Birmingham Symphony hall project which hung in my mums surgery waiting room... it is now on my wall and his music firmly in my heart!
Bishting 8 months ago 2
It is very much better than the Karajan version. Sorry for bad English.
petrusmalk 9 months ago
@petrusmalk Do you remember the year of Karajan's version you listened to? I think the 1968 version with the Berlin Philharmonic was his best.
davtra 9 months ago
LOL he still has the time to wipe his nose off.. XD
ochaken0katsu 9 months ago
Angels love it & so do I!
2010521000 9 months ago
we're doing this piece with this conductor in 3 weeks time at the opening of our new concert hall in Reykjavík. Looking immensely forward to it!
hildigunnurr 9 months ago
i see Asians!!
darkotakudemon 10 months ago
This video come in great 4 music projects.lol lml It go me a A. LMAO
yanna2cute4u 11 months ago
That improved my quality of life immeasurably. Thanks for uploading it.
MmeZeeZee 1 year ago 19
Beethoven will like this
jkgou1 1 year ago 10
Karajan's is more dramatic!
MsGnorts 1 year ago 4
VLADIMIR ASHKENAZY IS SO FIERCE! YOU GO VLAD! I love this.
Becpars 1 year ago
schlecht !
Theodorakis4 1 year ago
this is the hymn of european union.
vandalounge 1 year ago
wow, there was a time when ashkenazi didn't have 'doc brown' hair??
c0ronariu5 1 year ago
Vladimir Ashkenazy looks like Leslie Nielson
ontherush77 1 year ago
Hey the conductor looks like Leslie Nielsen !!!!!!!!!
drummysq2 1 year ago
flame war! flame war! in every video on youtube you will find a recent flame war :D
NachtCrus 1 year ago
what a great orchestra. amazing precision
jin12345678 1 year ago
The orchestra has problem w/ articulating the melody line. The accents, timing, and drama isn't there. The conductor also conducts poorly. The chorus seems on the timid side. Everyone is on the legato side instead being on the fortissimo side. I think the Japanese orchestra has problems with Beethoven's assertive, powerful and robust imagination because that's not in their subdued cultural vein, .....but on the other hand, they did fought damn crazy in WWII.
freeqwerqwer 1 year ago
@freeqwerqwer They are following the director which is what they were supposed to do. They could have done whatever the conductor requested (surprised?).
Gary2837 1 year ago
@Gary2837 , you obviously are a non-musician so I suggest you don't show your ignorance.
freeqwerqwer 1 year ago
@freeqwerqwer You've already shown your ignorance and a smart mouth who easily gets his feelings hurt. And I question if you are a musician. Again, they are following the director as anyone knows they should. If the director wants it a certain way then he takes them there. Is that simple enough for you?
Gary2837 1 year ago
@Gary2837 , I can tell you have a square mind, like the Asians. You have no clue because you are are an inferior idiot, like a dumb robot.
freeqwerqwer 1 year ago
@freeqwerqwer It is obvious you are unbalanced and inferior (what a combination); seek help before it's too late. By the way, you may argue with yourself (which you probably do anyway) because I've removed myself from your cheap low life discussion. No more responses from me to you because you are mentally unstable.
Gary2837 1 year ago
anyone else think the soprano soloist is cute?
pianoking53 1 year ago
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aqariumperson 1 year ago
He is very active. Because of his action, every players will have a power to play his instruments.
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dkanrjskgkwlanj 1 year ago
Reminds of A Clockwork Orange... Beethoven = Pure Genius.
SilverHammock 1 year ago
I don't care what anyone says. This is just simply the best piece of music ever written.
2natw 1 year ago
3:01 Hahahahahaha!
infectedxkira 1 year ago
His "conducting" looks like it makes no sense to me. This really does just looks like a man waving a baton around. Still a good performance from the orchestra though...
JacobRudduck 1 year ago
@JacobRudduck he does have a very 'frenetic',sometimes uneven style but his beats and dynamics are in general clear and forceful.
jin12345678 1 year ago
What a show-clown!
Let him "learn" from the masters, like Carlos Kleiber, Ernest Ansermet....
Does he EVER watch how do "the professionals" conduct an orchestra? I paid more than $350 per ticket to see Conductor Kleiber. And it WAS A PLEASURE! I would not pay $25.00 TO SEE THIS MAN... he does need a LOT of "rope" to know what CONDUCTING is about!!!
LombanaClaudio 1 year ago
@LombanaClaudio I must agree with you, he's a clown
he doesn't have a clue about conducting,
but with his profile and connections he's conducting all the biggest orchestra and unfortunately no-one (critics included) has the courage to say anything about it, on the contrary, most of the time the critic blame the orchestras and not his crap conducing!
He's one of the untouchables!
Curatorialsense 1 year ago
@Curatorialsense conventional technique is just as unworthy of worship as conventional musicmanship. Furtwangler was accused of having no technique, but he had his ways. I'm not saying ashkenazy is a great conductor, but I think he has a unique mindset regarding music and his conducting suits his own musicality. of course, many people dislike ashkenazy as a musician or pianist, so you might as well dislike his conducting.
jin12345678 1 year ago
@Curatorialsense I don't want to be contentious or presumptuous, but unfortunately commenting on youtube you can't do much to avoid both. just my opinions :/
jin12345678 1 year ago
Unfortunately by your very statement you have both been contentious and presumptive in the fact that you are, sir/madam, a pretentious cock.
A very good day to you.
teegs1972 1 year ago
BTW Enjoy this beautiful rendition of Beethoven's 9th ;)
teegs1972 1 year ago
@jin12345678 My comments are aimed at you sir.
teegs1972 1 year ago
why this chief act crazy?!?!! people on the stage dont even look at him :)
PorsukToros 1 year ago
wtf.
cickiri 1 year ago
i think karajan is better
raceracr 1 year ago
@raceracr ...me too..he is the best.....better than Furtwangler????
zhinshi 1 year ago
Ashkenazy doesn't have the best technique, but what a great performance.
jin12345678 1 year ago
@jin12345678 probably you meant to say that he doesn't have ANY technique at all...
just because saying that he doesn't have the best technique, would be an offense to proper conductor.
Curatorialsense 1 year ago
@Curatorialsense he has a unique way of communicating with the orchestra. I don't think he obsesses about bringing out subtle details with literal gestures; he communicates a general pulse and energy, and is happy to let the players feed off his energy to resolve issues of phrasing.his interpretations aren't the most colorful, his textures not the most expressive, but his interpretations always have clear, strong pulse and a wonderful sense of unity. Less is more in this case, this is my opinion
jin12345678 1 year ago
i thought symphony 9 mvmt 4 is ode to joy?
engmaths123 1 year ago
@engmaths123 You should listen again - and to the whole video.
pila406 1 year ago
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2Fk937N7 1 year ago
@engmaths123 it is, its just that that part comes later in the 4th movement
2Fk937N7 1 year ago
It looks like he could use some anti-histamine before going up the podium. Anyway, he is not any worse than Karajan although not as good as Klemperer.
Forest1227 1 year ago
Vladimir Ashkenazy is currently the Cheif Conductor of the Sydney Symphony Orchestra
davtra 2 years ago
OMG, I am always surprised how discussions about such beautiful music can escalate in such a way - about a masterpiece which will always be remembered as "Ode an die Freude". Unfortunately, I can't see much Freude in those discussions below.
verso69 2 years ago 2
@verso69
Unfortunately, that's how any "discussion" with dumdumdumduuuum here tends to end. He's nothing more than a hateful troll who can dish it out but refuses to take it in return.
I was a victim of his back in August. I'll never think of the Mahler 5th the same way again...
HerrWozzeck 2 years ago 5
Too fast for me...
Classicalguy12 2 years ago
I wish the soprano solist had more weight to her voice. Her voice is lovely but IMO, it's too light for Beethoven.
operaticxingenue 2 years ago
Ashkenazy is the greatest conductor alive.
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago 3
He has about worst baton technique I've ever seen. I do like some of his phrasing ideas. But the "greatest alive?" Not even in the top 20 in my book.
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nycsym 2 years ago
who are YOU to be judging a genius like Ashkenazy?!?
and what do you mean by 'baton technique'? he has more 'technique' than you for sure!!
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
I've been a professional conductor for 32 years in New York who's conducted numerous concerts at Lincoln Center, Carnegie Hall, as well as many times in Europe, Asia, Russia (at the Tchaikovsky Conservatory) Canada, Central and South America, Ukraine. I know a thing or two about the art. Where have YOU conducted?
nycsym 2 years ago
sure, and I'm president of the United States.
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
You're Barak Obama?
We all have opinions in matters of art. What is not opinion, but fact, is that over the past 10-15 major orchestras in Berlin, Cleveland, Boston, Munich, L.A., Chicago, New York, Amstredam, London, Philly and Leipzig hired new music directors. Ashkenazky was passed over for all of these MD positions. If he is unequivocally "the greatest" living conductor then surely one of these esteemed ensembles would have hired him, correct?
nycsym 2 years ago
Hey buddy, I think it's time for you to leave the conducting to the 'big boys'. Watching that pathetic video of yours performing that unknown and truly horrendous piece, you've obviously wasted the last 32 years of your life trying to 'make it' in the classical music business (not to mention the last few days, when you've been desperately trying to make a point).
I guess all this is a stunt to revive your defunct career...? Certainly hasn't worked! :) All the best
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
My career is doing just fine thanks. I'm working in Vegas and Chicago this week and executives from EMI and the Salzburg Ballet are interested in recording and choreographing my "horrendous piece." If the deals go down I'll give you a shout.
nycsym 2 years ago
You'll probably need a megaphone. Vegas is a cultural shit hole. I have all I need here in London thanks.
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
I was in London last year---Conducted a program with members of the of the Royal Philharmonic.
BTW, there are many great musicians working in Vegas and they have decent orchestra.
What exactly is your musical contribution to the world? Just curious.
nycsym 2 years ago
Members of the RPO, you say? Anything's possible I guess if the money's right.
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
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JLGosselin12345 2 years ago
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Go fuck yourself JLG, and mind your own fucking business.
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
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JLGosselin12345 2 years ago 2
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Of course you agree with what nycsym said, because all you wanna-be conductors all sleep and fornicate in the same bed. You are all nothing but slaves to show business. Shame on you (and if you think you can impress us with your shitty little performance of the Scriabin Concerto JLGosselin, think again).
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
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JLGosselin12345 2 years ago 2
What's the matter JLG? Lost for words, now, are you? Is the TRUTH too difficult too handle...??? You losers make me laugh.
dumdumdumduuuum 2 years ago
I like Ashkenazy in certain repertory, Rachmaninoff especially. But as I said, you'd be hard pressed to find many (if any) folks (besides dum) who consider him "the greatest alive." I know a few people in the Cleveland Orchestra who worked with him and they were not impressed. Had they been impressed perhaps he would have succeeded Dohnanyi instead of Welser-Most (who hasn't made such a great impression either.)
nycsym 2 years ago 2
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JLGosselin12345 2 years ago
@JLGosselin12345
I have to say you are probably the most idiotic viewer Ive ever read on youtube; What gives you any right to criticize or gossip about musicians whose contributions have made a difference to the musical world at large? I think you simply enjoy going online and trying to prove how smart you are, but it only betrays your ignorance. And try changing your name, unless you like being a reality show buffoon.
DaddyofT 1 year ago
@DaddyofT
i'm sorry you don't agree with my comments. I can only refer you to what "nycsym" wrote, which I think is spot on.
As for the name thing, I can only assume that you do not have the nerve to show to us all who/what you really are by hiding behind an anonymous profile.
JLGosselin12345 1 year ago
@JLGosselin12345 Unfortunately, your name thing is only ego, which is clearly evident in your writing and posts. And I doubt many people will now take you seriously to engage you in the future. Discretion would serve you better, but I doubt you have any. Certainly not in your conducting.
DaddyofT 1 year ago
@dumdumdumduuuum
So let me get this straight. You're saying 'leave the conducting to the big boys', to someone who is famous enough to have a Wikipedia page? (I'm not kidding, he really does have a Wikipedia page.)
You, sir, have once again proved that you're a tactless douche who will not hesitate to pounce on someone better than him to make himself feel good. Keep it up; in the end, the joke's on you!
HerrWozzeck 2 years ago
Oh, and I'm not talking about the gymnast, either, in case you're confused.
HerrWozzeck 2 years ago
Grow up!
nycsym 2 years ago
I saw him in Cleveland a number of times and he could be terrific in Russian repertory and deadly boring in Mozart or Haydn. I know musicians in orchestras in Cleveland and NY and they don't believe he's anything special. Good, but not a big deal. I saw him conduct the BBC Phil. at Royal Albert Hall in Brahms' #3. Musicians could be seen rolling their eyes in derision as he couldn't navigate the tricky syncopated rhythms in the opening movement.
nycsym 2 years ago
@dumdumdumduuuum He is really good, but can't say "The Best". Take for example Sir John Eliot Gardiner.
pila406 1 year ago
@dumdumdumduuuum Yeah right!
callasnuts 1 year ago
definately faster than Leonard Bernstein's version. I like it.
sireofzelda 2 years ago
8:47 seems like theres something wrong with the flute
rianbrito 2 years ago 3
Sounded fine to me..........
Music2Die4 2 years ago
My beloved Ludwig Von.........another molocko velocet barkeep!!
nailset6 2 years ago
合唱が残念すぎる
on1000tama5 2 years ago
hermoso en cualquier idioma, tener la oportunidad de escucharlo en vivo es simplemente indiscriptible, lastima que no encuentro el video dode la interpretan en la Sala Nezahualcóyotl del Centro Cultural Universitario UNAM, claro esta.
un dia memorable en septiembre del 2008
licgenaro 2 years ago
Asististe a ese concierto?
redhotchiliangel 2 years ago
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the soprano is sexy, i wanna fuck her badly
Cavaradossi1981 2 years ago
he sings like he is draped in his grandmas panties
RockIndianh 2 years ago
you really have no idea
rodrigomarrafao 2 years ago
The priest is a great singer.
jwedgewood 2 years ago
One of the best on Youtube, as far as this symphony goes.
Gabbrany 2 years ago
lol at guy fixing his piccolo at 8:46
artymowycz 2 years ago 16
@artymowycz Oftentimes instruments do break even piano strings. Smart "guy" he has the knowledge to make the necessary repairs and continue his magnificent playing of this great work.
Gary2837 1 year ago
the baritone is a bit underpowered for my liking. someone like a hvorostovky would have made a better stab of it...
i like the changes in tempo though, everyone is so precise yet everything changes constantly!! amazing!!
CrystalPalace1990 2 years ago
nice baritone, and I like Ashkenhazy conducting this.
personally I can't stand Karajan's Beethoven.
woytynowska 2 years ago
I like Karajan's, but there does seem to be something almost dated about his conduction. These times don't call for his European nationalism, or for Bernstein's Ode to Freedom; they call for something else all together.
Gabbrany 2 years ago
You egomaniac, next time instead of talking about things of which you know absolutely nothing, you can remove your lower ribs and blow yourself, if you haven't done so already!
TheGreatLudwig 2 years ago
I love Karajan's- But this is brilliant, this is brilliant. I have heard some terrible interpretations of this, some good ones, some brilliant ones, but this has to be in the top two. Ashkenazy is brilliant.
sstuddert 2 years ago
you can tell that german is not the native language of the singer.
dsp0507 3 years ago 8
that's what makes it special...lől
Timmytimtimtm 2 years ago
@dsp0507 That's true (if the matter is baritone Sergei Leiferkus), but he recently recorded some parts as Telramund , Pizarro and even Alberich, all roles in German.
1donpizarro 1 year ago
@dsp0507 Why give such a critique? Can you do it better and make everyone believe that was not your native language?
Gary2837 1 year ago
@dsp0507 Woe, nothing gets past you! Have you ever thought of auditioning for "Mastermind"? Your category could be "The Bleeding Obvious". (apologies to John Cleese for plagiarising)
verziehen 1 year ago
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jk31213 3 years ago
tempo is all fucking subjective!
imsleepyanddead 3 years ago
yeah but most people{myself included} "agree" with karajan's more slow paced and very detailed direction, its just a matter of taste which varies with every person
L0statMidNight 3 years ago
tempo also depends very very much of the personal mood, constitiution ... in which a person is, whether she/he prefers slower x or faster y motion etc.
also Karajan did this in different tempi - by the way
berniewa2008 3 years ago
... in YOUR opinion ...
problem is more the sound quality of such videos
berniewa2008 3 years ago
I don't mean to suggest it's not a good performance. It is good.
nextren 3 years ago
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Ashkenazy has no conducting technique at all. Most of the time he gives the beat after the orchestra already played it.
The baritone, Leiferkus, is good but is a Russian known for Russian works. His wobble is not weakness but just right for Prince Igor.
It's the soprano who's underpowered (but right on the notes).
Note at 1:20 the strings sound incurably Asian, like the romantic theme of a chop suey movie.
What saves this perf. is prob. Ash. lectured in rehearsal on concept.
nextren 3 years ago
if you hate how the conductor is early on the beat, don't watch michael tilson thomas, who is always early. and don't argue with me, I've performed under him.
imsleepyanddead 3 years ago
yet somehow, tilson thomas makes great performances. no coincidence, so does ashkenazy. there's a reason he is famous as a pianist and conductor
imsleepyanddead 3 years ago
I have played under Ashkenazy many times and he is an excellent conductor. One night he played two concertos.Of course he is one of the greatest pianists.
cattleman6420012000 3 years ago
i adore him, but i can't help thinking that ashkenazy looks like dr. cottle from battlestar galactica. =DDDD
imsleepyanddead 3 years ago
Your ignorance is all too conspicuous.
sstuddert 2 years ago
damn that soprano is good
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avanade 3 years ago
The thing I don't like about this orchestra is that i feel them no passion in the piece... It's like.. they are only following the score and the indications of Ashkenazy, but they aren't really feeling it =/ Anyway, it's a great perfomance.
Kyo.-
xkyousukex 3 years ago
wow "shut up" youir so brave....dumb fuck!!!! by the way say something else that doesnt make you look stupid and disgusting dumbass bitch
sexyking19 3 years ago
Can't say enough good about this - brought tears to my eyes - outstanding conducting and playing - soprano was flawless - other lead singers very good - my favorite on CD was Solti 1972, and on TV a PBS show in the 70's by Shaw/Atlanta - this recording is as good or better than any of those. Amazing that it would be available with decent quality on YouTube. Just amazing.
dalethorn2 3 years ago
please look at Toscanini for how a true master conducts- this one is too strident- and he looks like a shlub with sportscoat over a t-shirt
rbt2112ak 3 years ago
a true master conductor is somebody who gives his audience emotion. should we compare askenazy to karajan or toscanini or bohm or stokowski or bernstein? all of them have their different recordings of this piece, all, and i mean ALL, are genuine masterpieces. the question of "the best conductor" is altogether impossible to answer, as countless conductors have achieved this. they shouldn't be compared.
as for the sportscoat, i tend to agree =P
it's the new fashion for concert dress these days.
imsleepyanddead 3 years ago 3
Beethoven is the greatest composer of all history of music!!! Great master, we salute you.
KK.
karlosk12 3 years ago
I love Schiller!
darchr90 3 years ago
How can you not after experiencing his poem like this.
sstuddert 2 years ago
DAYUM, the only white guy there is the conducter
moester101 3 years ago
mvt 4 it's the best beethoven music
knibal0i 3 years ago 2
i think Bernstein version was much better and more artistic as if beethoven wanted....still they did good job here.....
thewind1408 3 years ago
You are right. This is a good performance.
flynbryan41 3 years ago 2
Absolutamente increible......absolutly incredible....this kind of perfomances would actually make us feel better about the world.Thanks Beethoven.
Babaldira 3 years ago 2
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yea this guy is mediecore, me and my 4 year old cousin conducted a much better 1, it perfect, even my mom told me it was amazing
ripperr13 3 years ago
How presumptuous to say that you're better than a world-renowed conductor like Ashkenazy.
musicyh 3 years ago 14
Of course she did, she's your mom. :3
hylianviolinist 3 years ago 8
ok dude, shut up, your pathetic, please pst of video of you conducting, say, mahler 8.
this was excellent. :)
griego4m 3 years ago
legend!
rachmaninov1873 3 years ago
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it wasnt the best performance but they were good. i sang this with he NEW MEXICO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA N CHOIR n we did this song so fantastic, awesome, spectacular, i mean it was an out of this world performance. we were told that it was the best performance so far heard by anybody n we got good reviews from newspapers n magazine. i mean everything was bigger, broader, n it was definitely a choir and orchestra of greatness. we cnt release the performance bc we aint paid, we r talented volunteers!
sexyking19 3 years ago
jerk, if ur in the orchestra or in the choir you always have the intention that this was the best performance ever.
Dont try to compare a great symphonic orchestra with a group of "talented volunteers"!!!
Cellz69 3 years ago 2
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Lies, filth, deceit.
hylianviolinist 3 years ago
shut up
griego4m 3 years ago
Shows that a good conductor can make all the difference, especially in a piece that is truly the "music of the spheres". sd goh (malaysia)
301250 3 years ago 2
What happened to Leiferkus???
I hope it's onely a bad day.
sad...
RADAMES1983 3 years ago
P E R F E C T! Bravo!!
uno1zero0 3 years ago 6
I still like him as a pianist before he turns to conducting.
canman5060 4 years ago 3
Yes. A virtuoso.
ThaSchwab 4 years ago 5