Susan Shaw: The oil spill's toxic trade-off

[Zareste]

looks like you guys are still alive

[kommaV1023]

Animals living in the Ocean are for more sensitive than those living on Land. I just wish every one of those would just adapt to changes, either positive or negative, that we Humans are responsible for. We might be the most smartest living things on the planet but we are too the most damage causing ones to the planet.. we do the most darnest things in the most darnest ways & We still do things even when we are aware of the damages our actions cause. A little strange one might say..

[Quex01]

This is all about hyping the dangers of the oil spill and getting people to go to the FEMA camps. And the oil or tar but even more the dispersant BP is using really is poisonous.

[tardbuster007]

By her own admission, its very difficult (ala "We're not very good at this" to predict or know the impact of various causes. The quadrillion interactions that exist in natural processes make this so.

[MilitantPotato]

@tardbuster007 She meant the impact on specific species.  The model they (scientists) put together during the Exxon spill turned out to be completely off, and the real world effects wound up being much more catastrophic.

[tardbuster007]

@MilitantPotato I know what she meant. Error can be bidirectional. Assuming that results of all modeling will be less "catastrophic" than real world based on one example is flawed. There are as many if not more where models predicted much worse results than real world. There's a major example of that going on right now on a grand scheme with "cooked" numbers being used for modeling to yield numbers that align with a political agenda.

[marsk4angel]

Its our choice we live like this, its never to late, money is the main error, power comes after that, beware and get aware off what u buy, act on or say, i think its time to get straith/straight? to ourselves and eachother, we dont have to be the same, just in balans and...IMAGINE...U MAY SAY I AM A DREAMER, BUT I AM NO THE ONLY ONE, live ur life now, but make something out off it...its worth it and u will be able to look in ur children eyes, whats more also in the mirror.

[4uamarillo]

thanks so much sue for telling the truth, and yes we can make a diffrence the truth is out there

[4uamarillo]

thanks so much and not afraid to tell the truth way to go keep it up susan shaw you mean so much to us the truth is out there

[justcaroles]

(If this repeats, I apologize.)

This lady -- and her information -- are a MUST SEE!

It's a shame our government is unaware. (Ya think they should subscribe to YouTube?)

[justcaroles]

Kudos to her!

(Ya think this government should subscribe to her videos . . . since they seem to be totally unaware?)

[blake6489]

The speaker in the is video uses many logical fallacies and make appeals to emotion rather than providing supporting evidence. This statement is not scientific. It is not supported by evidence, or even an example "... big oil and the propaganda and how we are all brain washed with their lies and so forth" [4:02].

Or where she states with authority the a cleanup crew member did not pass out from heat stress, but that it was caused by the water.

[blake6489]

@blake6489 How does she know this? Did she ask them , did she have them examined?

Maybe she is right! I sure dont like the things going in to the ocean, or 'big oil', BUT I would like to see my views supported with scientific arguments and not with hearsay. Emotion is great for revving people up but is not good at creating constructive action.

[10Pups]

Why are they using it? Duh. Follow the money. Who makes corexit? Nalco. Who owns Nalco? Come on guess...........Goldman Sacks. Shall we think deeper? Ok who is heavily invested in Goldman? Ding...times up....Berkshire Hathaway. Guess who uses B.H for an investment broker. "hint" You may have voted for him. I am no conspiracy guy and the words I present I do not know as fact. But, my common sense tells me that there must be some reason why they would take a toxic situation and double it.

[seanankerr]

@10Pups Quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack, I am no duck, quack, quack, quack

[10Pups]

@seanankerr Okay so you missed the point. Why would they disperse the oil making a greater quantity and making it more toxic than before. To save a little while killing more? I do not believe they are that ignorant. If they are, than all their assets should be used to make this wrong right. And they should cease and desist all operations for the safety of all earthlings.

[cannoir]

Bernhardt Madoffsson had shares there too. 2+2

[xjustamem0ryx]

The Genesis of Man's Trade-off imo.

[NickSentowski]

I LOVE PUDDING!!!

[Pshaurk]

this is just sad information.

Whats done is done. A LOT must be done to never repeat this. Human disasters have been increasing drastically in scope, and possible problems and solutions must be looked into and be given much more importance.

[abram730]

Help the medical field grow... Eat lots of fish.

mmmm oncology... It's in there.

[matbury]

I'd like to see more citizens doing their duty and confronting the senators and congressmen who oppose effect environmental regulation.

Ironically, it was Richard Nixon who introduced the most effective environmental regulations.

[Habasch78]

Corexit Neurotoxic? Uuups as i said a lilbit of Chernobyl that is what could caus this spill. Here we go. Good luck.

[pizbox]

every marine biology ted talk in the past two months has made me want to die.

[snoopdogsballs]

Oxford is a shithole

[bluebeard2]

There's a limit to how much expertise BP can muster, even noting their deep pockets. We yelled at them to fix it immediately, so they made some bad decisions. But that's ok, we'll keep sitting on the sidelines yelling at them, so they'll make some more bad decisions.

[abram730]

@bluebeard2 It was their lowball numbers of the spill rate that cause the mistakes... If you are told to stop a 1000 barrel a day spill my the higher ups and design a solution for that, it's not wonder it doesn't work.... The flow rate was orders of magnitude grater.

[bluebeard2]

@abram730

I agree, that's a fair point. To be fair though, that could've been caused by their limited ability to muster engineering expertise in short order. Or it could've been an engineer doing a bit of old fashioned arse covering. We might never know.

[Chopsta123]

BP only tries to cover up the issue with the solvents. making it look like less oil is in the water. its like the murderer who has the chance to cover up evidence in the crime scene.

[tlndofa]

it changes dna and makes mutants..thats the truth...

[pnkearns]

I hear many things that are wrong. What I don't hear is any solutions.

What I don't hear is anything about the trade-offs. It's easy to be a critic and say what's wrong. Is it better to have oil+corexit for a short term or let the oil spill untreated onto the beaches and watch the damage? What's the solution(s) you are proposing? And, whatever solution(s) you propose, are you willing to be accountable for them?

[abram730]

@pnkearns Best would be to skim the oil or not have the blow out in the first place.... the corexit means you can't clean much up.... You turn a big cleanup into a cluster f**k..

[foxfly23]

Thanks so much for sharing this.

[Finiras]

couldn't they get a speaker to say this that isn't a pain in the ass to listen to.

[CityzenJane]

let us have the truth with nano and bio tech too-- why the hell people are so confident in these industries when we KNOW what we know about the chemical industry.... except that we have a deep suicidal impulse....

[emaildoctor]

The web of life is complex and beyond our understanding at this point. The only certainty in the gulf is that what has happened there will have widespread and probably long-term effects. If we do not study the effects of the spill and the use of chemical dispersants we will never realize what the true costs and effects have been and our motivation to prevent such disasters in the future will be uninformed and deficient. Let the truth prevail, we need to know.

[mooxim]

that's some depressing shit.

[NEWSANDPOLITRICKS]

Grait Upload Thank You Thumbs Up 

[isawanangel2]

yes well i sure those UN rapists..oops i mean peacekeepers will do a wonderful job thanks odrama

[Khyrid]

Wonderful, we're all dead.

[jarjarbinks77]

@Khyrid What's new.

[TheGreatAfricanGuru]

if people just stopped filling up at BP, they would feel it in the only place where it hurts them and then they might stop and listen

[Samsaptaka]

@TheGreatAfricanGuru The connection between BP oil production and BP petrol stations is not direct. Not filling up at a BP station won't impact the profit BP makes from its oil wells.

[x1plus1x]

Great talk, makes me disgusted at corporate greed, and government impotence.

[BigBrousky]

This is boring. I don't like her hair.

[bavwill]

@BigBrousky imbecile

[pyro51090]

What a shame.

[ShalloeThought]

FUCK

[notme222]

You know, a statement like "chemicals are being openly used without disclosing what they are" is very powerful. She should say that repeat it, and then go into observed conditions. Instead, she keeps using pejoratives. "Big [insert product here]". "Propaganda". "Running the show." "Unregulated."

Stop telling us what to think TED speakers, because it makes me not trust you! If the facts are as powerful as you claim, let them speak for themselves. We'll reach the right conclusion.

[randomunavailable]

@notme222 Trade secrets. She doesn't know. Listening helps you learn.

[notme222]

@randomunavailable She doesn't know how to form a sentence without using the phrase "Big Chemical"? Either you're really insulting her or you were too anxious to get out that witty "Listening helps you learn" zinger to understand what I said. I'll repeat for the intelligent TED viewers, plus yourself:

Saying "BP is dumping chemicals and not disclosing them" is very compelling. Saying "Big Oil makes money and has secrets!" is not. She should let facts speak for themselves without spin.

[randomunavailable]

@notme222 I heard 5% spin and 95% science. If you're going to be let down by a few disappointing comments from Ms. Shaw and miss her important message then you are a fool. The science behind her message is valid and despite her political views she's doing the right thing sounding the alarm.

As for your personal attack against me, I'll ignore it. Maybe you'll learn something from this experience.

[Sondre7]

TED publishes too many talks on environmentalism.

[retepvosnul]

@Sondre7 Truth hurts too much ?

[GeofsFilms]

Can the British monetary system and corporations do anything right for humanity ? I always find these guys to be causing trouble or directly linked to it whenever I see large scale human suffering and death. Africa, Wars, Drugs, Famine, Écological and geological disasters, bail outs, ect.

[tarsanth]

@GeofsFilms And here come the trolls: Make accusation. Search for someone to blame. Argue. Totally neglect original problem. Repeat. What a great way to better humanity...

[GeofsFilms]

@tarsanth And the troll has come making up useless comments and questions (not revealing his answers)... always expecting that he can get educated by reading Youtube blogs who limit any and all posts/replies to 500 caracters. Learn about what the empire is (clue: the monetary system), try to learn the difference between control and ownership, after that study the history of Africa from "who profits" economic point of view and lastly try to get the point of blogs like mine... curiosity.

[tdreamgmail]

what do you mean we? it's the business companies that are doing all this pollution. who else can product so much waste? we are all point the finger at ourselves but the biggest culprit are companies who privatize profits and socialize losses like this current disaster.

[NietzscheanMan]

@tdreamgmail government interventionism is what causes stuff like this; don't mistake symptoms for causes. Companies like BP and others are forced to drill that deep because of legislation; that's what increases the risk and on top of that the fact that you have a tragedy of the commons scenario going on when it comes to unowned ocean with government officials lining their pockets with dirty money. The companies are not the ones to blame.

[derman077]

WHAT THE F()CK !!!!!

[derman077]

I remember a TED Talk with guy who said he has fungus that eats hydrocarbons.

[biozamadotcom]

I loathe Haliburton and BP. The people should want revenge for this.

the people should demand more from this than is being not done by BP and the government.

[tiknoriumatyti]

@biozamadotcom lol the biggest hypocrite. YOu drive ? You use plastic ? OTher stuff ? Then your the same demon. What do you do ? Have you created/joined any group to do something ? OR are you one of many drones that are pushed by the commercial that they see or something 'shocking' that you never had a idea till the TV showed you.

[biozamadotcom]

@tiknoriumatyti I know many who have only to be suppressed by the government.

Haliburton and BP, people. When the people have had enough, BP and Haliburton are on the list.

Lamest excuse ever is "do you drive?" What an imbecile. There are responsible wildcatters all over the USA who have never done such irresponsible things as this.

What a dumb statement! "Do you drive?" "Do you use plastic?" Acting as an apologist for BP is like defending Bush/Obama, not possible anymore.

[liquidminds]

@tiknoriumatyti: There is a huge difference between knowing what is the right thing and doing the right thing.

your comment is as hypocritic as biozamadotcom's comment is. The only difference is, that he realized that this is about what SHOULD be done and not about what individual people allready do.

[UncertainTruth]

wow...alot of these comments are really immature ...what are you guys 12 year olds? its surprising for a ted video

go watch some cartoons then ...children

this is serious shit

[Twostones00]

We need to take the control of our governmnet away from the corporations and give it back to the people.

[peiznkev000]

@Twostones00 True...but hard to do especially with all of the large sums of money being used to lobby every politician...

[slLLyhumans]

shocking

[REOcanada3]

Hope at this interval is a misapprehension of the future, an illusion, which characterizes the lack of knowledge and accurate facts of the BP Oil Spill. Facts as such are not the fruitful elements of knowledge. To be useful, facts and details must be augmented by some relation so that an interpretation is possible; thereby we can proceed to resolve and restore the Gulf Region. Moral knowledge cannot be separated from the moral actions that are required in restoring the pride of the Gulf.

[HigherPlanes]

We're so sick. It's sad. Obviously we don't care so much wildlife and the planet. But if the threat is pointed at us, maybe this will inspire real change to take place.

[SashaM]

This lady is awesome.

[radicalbacon]

I half-expect gulf oil spill data being released on wikileaks

[ForYeensSake]

@radicalbacon I really hope so. I wish we could get ourselves a fist and hit BP so hard they won't fucking know they even exist.

[BeondaPale]

I wonder if anyone else has noticed this. Whenever videos like this are published - videos of knowledgeable people with deep concerns for the environment, they always seem to attract a strange, contra-audience. It's an audience who (not knowing the science behind the video) attempt to attack the presentations on only the emptiest of levels.

They always seem to make the most bizarre comments like: "this is boring." or "I don't like her hair"

[Utsusemi]

@BeondaPale Probably a 4chan e-raid. Bunch of 'trolls' from 4chan come over here and 'flame' =O

[hcortens]

@BeondaPale that comment was boring

[genefire]

@BeondaPale The sad part about your spot on comment is that people are still making ignorant empty comments after you commented here. Good comments and thumbs up!

[SuperiorApostate]

@BeondaPale or maybe this is boring and they don't like her hair?

[hossboss96]

@BeondaPale ya, welcome to the internet bud, sometimes you have to wade through hate to get a point across. dont like it? read a book instead

[luc59457]

@BeondaPale That's because the largest audience on You-Tube are kids. Not news. Those types of comments is a result of You-tubes largest audience. Kids will flourish videos from Users such as: Fred and abandon what really matters. Can we plausibly blame there parents?

[BeondaPale]

Some of it might be little kids, I think much more of it is political

[luc59457]

@BeondaPale So you are saying it is mostly rigged then, if you say much more of it is political. I get a sense of that too sometimes. It is quite childish nonetheless, and if these are acts by adults, which obviously it would be if it is politically motivated, they should be ashamed of themselves for being so childish at their ages. There is far too much room for that than necessary in this world.

[luc59457]

@BeondaPale What I mean by rigged is that people are saying these things on purpose out of political motivation. And they aren't children. They are well aware what they are doing.

[luc59457]

@BeondaPale Maybe you got 48 thumbs up, mostly by the very ones who are causing this political motivation.

[jackmosley06]

@BeondaPale also the occasional "that bitch is old"

[resteep]

@BeondaPale your boaring. I dont like you hair.

[leejae]

yawwwnnnnn

[6sign]

Sorry I just cant listen to this one.

[oicub2]

13:30

[spinspinsugah]

4:44... I had to replay that. She got into toxic water ON PURPOSE. Wow :/

[TrueIronhorn]

It's not just BP, it's every Oil company. Every company is is guilty of these crimes and they should all be held responsible for their actions. BP just happened to draw the 'lucky' straw this time. My worst fear is that these issues may never be taken seriously and our world will quickly decay into nothing but a toxic shell housing Humanity.

[seasave1]

FACTS:

3 / 4 OF THE WORLD IS COVERED WITH WATER

3 / 4 OF THE WORLD’S OXYGEN IS PRODUCED BY THE PLANKTON IN THE OCEAN

PLANKTON IS THE START OF THE FOOD CHAIN FOR THE ENTIRE PLANET

IF THE OCEAN’S DIE THEN

WE DIE!

[defect530]

she is putting me to sleep, zzzz. could there be a more boring speaker?

[ScientiaVeritasEtLux]

@defect530 I thought it was a very interesting and worrying talk. Just because you have the 3-minute attention span of most Americans doesn't mean that Shaw is a bad/boring speaker. What did you want her to do, juggle while she gave her talk?

[defect530]

@ScientiaVeritasEtLux

yes, juggling always makes for a good time.

now go jump off a bridge you prejudice piece of shit.

[ragnarocks0]

@defect530

you are on a public forum , please refrain from acting like a 12 year old.

[defect530]

@ragnarocks0

freedom of speech A hole. is that better? 

[ScientiaVeritasEtLux]

@defect530 Prejudice? First of all, how was my comment prejudiced? Second, how old are you? Because you're being pretty immature.

[defect530]

@ScientiaVeritasEtLux

your snarky anti-american comment.

[ScientiaVeritasEtLux]

@defect530 It's not snarky. It's a statistic...

[ANDjjela]

@defect530 learn to listen

[BeondaPale]

Go watch Family Guy -- there, all better

[defect530]

@BeondaPale

you're shallow and pedantic

[Fulcanelliii]

@defect530 ....that exact line is from family guy episode, using it doesnt make u smart trollio

[adrenacrumb]

yay internal bleeding!

[joelito101]

So, why are we letting BP poison our oceans?

[ScientiaVeritasEtLux]

@joelito101 Good question. I'm surprised that after the unbelievably poor handling of this spill by BP that the government and most Americans haven't done something about it. In my opinion, BP should have provided the money for the capping and clean-up, and the government alongside the Gulf coast locals should have been the ones to take care of the situation. Having BP in charge of the situation is like letting a murderer be the judge in his own court case, it makes no sense.

[joelito101]

@ScientiaVeritasEtLux Glad more people are awake.

[reapfreak]

I wonder how many environmentalists admit that the government is the worlds largest polluter? The fact that the state offers perks and special positions to friends in industy, thus creating an unaccountable organization that's self regulated? Oil companies and industry are DWARFED by the US government in terms of environmental destruction.

[subentry]

"...not be afraid to assert, as a combination of terror and trust in the people, the reactivation of one of the figures of all egalitarian-revolutionary terrors, the "informer" who denounces the culprits to the authrorities"

[archymtln]

Nobody cares anymore, television and radio has been and still is brainwashing generations of people into telling them that they are only having success with a nice car and women and house and boat , etc Someone who even tries a little is bound to be a failure in life according to those standards. It's hard to sacrifice your happiness because a car will attract most women out there. Being without it makes you just look poor, not smart or green.

[ijust1]

"..because we're flame retarding everything and because we have weak regulations on toxic chemicals"

No. It's because we have an OVERLY regulated manufacturing industry which FORCES companies to use these chemicals to meet "government standards".

Wanna know who lobbied for those standards. The flame retardant manufacturers. We don't need more regulation!

[iSketch4you]

@ijust1 no, there isn't. there's another TED vid where the issue is discussed by Carl Safina- sloppy management and lack of rule enforcement played a major role in the oil spill. however, i won't say that lobbying does not enforce products, as in some cases they are so majorly subsidized and other options so scarce that people are forced to opt for worse products.

[ijust1]

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. In either case, it is an undeniable fact that US trade regulations de-facto require manufacturers in all kinds of industries to use these kinds of chemicals.

In a free market, they would not be required to use them and only would in cases where it made sense.

[MrTStoddart]

@ijust1 I respectfully think you are sorely mistaken. If you are correct, it is because something is being done that simply SHOULD NOT BE DONE AT ALL.

Regulation is not the problem, the activity is. Regulation is sanity. Free markets are dangerous and need to be handled with care. They allow rich madmen to do nonsense with the world, extracting private benefit from public exploitation.

[ijust1]

Assuming we share the values of preserving nature, increasing life-expectancy, education, literacy, etc, then freedom in the economy existing with a network of property rights are superior to government-control.

Government control always falls to special interests. In a free society, well-funded, highly organized special interests are a far more potent political force than the disperse, general interest of "the people". The FDA, SEC, ICC, IRS are all controlled by special interests.

[MrTStoddart]

@ijust1 Again, I respectfully disagree. Special interests will RULE in a free market, unless there is a shield against their tyranny, and the gov't is that shield.

Your premise that we "share values" is nice, but not true, and the "values" you state are just words, really; everyone has a slightly different idea about what those "values" entail.

Too bad this is a youtube conversation. :) Ah, well. Have a good one!

[ragnarocks0]

@ijust1

she said WEAK regulations, as you yourself have typed, not LESS regulations, which is what you apparently think she said. In conclusion she is appealing for better regulations not more; regulations lobbied by manufacturers are not good regulations they are simply "profitable" regulations

[ijust1]

@ragnarocks0 There is no other kind. Well-funded special interests always beat "the people" in a free society. Hence the need for strong property rights and a free market, so companies cannot buy government power, which is the power of force.

[kurtilein3]

using or not using dispersants is NOT a decision for the people that are best informed to make. thats not how the united states and the united kingdom work. also, it is not a decision where the people that are affected or the nature involved matters.

the laws are clear. what, and how many dispersants are being used is a public relations decision of BP. the corporations have the power over our planet right now, and the politicians of too many countries defend this instead of challenging it.

[gantonk]

heartbreaking

[P1ranh4]

"BP is running the show" and they obviously make it worse than better. Even when a company is caught, they won't turn away from their profit motive. EVERYTHING will suffer that is not directly connected with profits. How can anybody expect anything else than innovation from any company? Why are they trusted with this cleanup?

[jasonlajoie]

Corporations have taken control of our planet and are ruining it for us all. They commit immense crimes against nature that makes us all suffer and they never have to pay for these crimes. When will we wake up?

[sebsy15]

@jasonlajoie We are the ones responsible for not rising up in opposition to the corporatocracy. As long as we think that righteousness happens spontaneously (it sure as hell doesn't), the multinationals will keep grabbing power and influence from us, the people.

[nightmathzombieethan]

@sebsy15 Oh, you don't think that massive corporations don't have your best interests in mind? You think they only care about the bottom line? But that's commie pinko socialist talk! You must be against free enterprise and capitalism! How unpatriotic of you.

(Hopefully my sarcasm is ridiculously obvious).

[Th3Wab3]

i find it amazing that the people supplying and using the Corexit care so little about the earth that they will continue to rape and destroy it.. these are not scientists...

this spill has been so depressing that all my aversions to capital punishment are starting to take a back seat to my aversions to this ecological neglect and devastation...

[Bellantoni]

Let's get the fuck off oil!

[h8red42]

I had to watch this while i was eating lunch.....

[CookieMonzta1995]

Get that guys god damned cell thing which eats the oil to clear it up!

[Umbalafum]

how can people be so criminally detached to nature, and on the other side, how can people like this woman, caring and working on the research, stand it?

[Th3Wab3]

@Umbalafum simple the human cultures that were attached or conscience of nature got slaughtered centuries ago and continue to be exterminated today.. the dominant culture that exists today could give a shit about anything but themselves... we today are living parasites we don't even let our natural waste naturally reintegrate into nature whether it be coffins or human waste..

google Chief Seattle's Letter

simply put our culture is suicidal...

[Umbalafum]

@Th3Wab3 thanks for reminding me - back in the 80ies with the appearance of the Green movement this was an often cited phrase - Only after the last tree has been cut down / Only after the last river has been poisoned / Only after the last fish has been caught / Then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - by Chief Seattle, modified.

[nightmathzombieethan]

@Umbalafum Wow...great quote. 

[Umbalafum]

@nightmathzombieethan yeah, but that spirit seems to be gone..

[Th3Wab3]

@Umbalafum well said, a msg that speaks volumes...

I'm currently reading "A Peoples History of The United States of America" by the late Howard Zinn... simply fascinating Historiography.. America would be a different place if it were standard in all high school regardless of whether you agree with the facts or not...

[Umbalafum]

@Th3Wab3 sure you're right (after a short review at Wiki) - just watched a similar documentation - "Canada: A People's History" in 17 parts (ok, surely more emotional).

[Neanderthalcouzin]

@Umbalafum I like your comments, from the heart and well said. I always think of Easter Island as an analogy. They plundered the island, cut down all the trees, consumed all the resources and left themselves stranded without even the means to construct a boat and escape. It's a lesson for the whole world.

[Umbalafum]

@Neanderthalcouzin Thank you for your kind words, they mean a lot to me!

Eastern Islands - must have been somehow like this - watch?v=91bNp7HJolE

[TherianthropeAndrewH]

Saving the plaint from ourselves will only happen when it becomes profitable.

It's horrendous but true.

[hedleypanama]

The objective of dispersants is to "get rid of the evidence". I heard it from another TED talk

[BenFosterification]

Aww American you care about oil spills now, but what about all the oil spills cause by you. what about all the river pollution, deforestation ect ect cause by you. also oil is actually pretty temporary oil is a natural compound and after few years will brake down and well if there's wild life near the japaneese american nuclear bombed ciites then it will happily return the the gulf

[TheSpankymonkey]

@BenFosterification "oil is actually pretty temporary oil is a natural compound and after few years will brake down" - It is also a solvent for other elements and compounds that we also don't want in the environment. It does not break down in "just a few years" and in all scenarios it will not repair itself in any timescale acceptable to human beings. It certainly is will not repair itself in any timescale that will help the people who live off the area.

[CrrackTheSkye]

@BenFosterification you obviously don't realise the effect this will have on the rest of the world.

[TheGodlessGuitarist]

@BenFosterification

I think you are attacking the wrong americans my friend. The americans that watch TED tend to be intelligent caring folk, not conservatives.

[spinynorman1982]

An MSDS sheet is an excellent warning in my opinion. But imagine the size and scope of a single report of the toxins inside a container of oil. Since this is a concept of a private investigation into the chemical compounds of all things, who would be most likely to keep this kind of stuff on file in a typical construction job site? The idiots that I work with don't even realize that falling breaks things.

[vearheart42]

Really down in comparison to yesterdays speaker.

[CheeezMaster]

this is your civilization. enjoy your cancer and say hi to you favorite distractions for me.

[CheeezMaster]

@spinynorman1982 see yo doctah niggah!

[chungdha]

My super power is fireproof so watch out human torch!

[margittarget]

The chinese just had a huge oil spill in the yellow sea

[DrakIems]

What we needed was a new oil spill, which is happening right now. That way we keep our mind off the old one.

[chungdha]

@DrakIems What we need it Captain Planet!

[TheSpankymonkey]

@chungdha - Isn't that supposed to be god, surely with the concentration of bible thumpers in that area God would of heard something about this by now. hehe.