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I think the janitor just wanted pete to whip the chocolate off his mouth.

I love the dodgeball ending, along with the last words Big Pete said in this episode. Kinda inspirational, in a way.

Fight on, no matter the odds. xD

God, that dodgeball ending is epic. Pete "Leonidas" Wrigley, his roar is long and loud!

amcint01 1 month ago

If Cecil's name is first on the book, he must have drawn that flip cartoon himself, right? Unless the people who made it decided to screw around before shipping it to the schools.

Cornwiggle 1 month ago

@Cornwiggle Exactly right. Cecil drew it.

friedchicken187 1 month ago

i think you are all over analyzing. lol. this is a tv show, not based off true stories. to me all the episodes kind of have a weird vibe to it anyway, so the way adults act in it totally fits. i just watch it and enjoy......dont take it too seriously....and believe me i had weirder janitors and security people at my school than this guy...

Narusayshi 3 months ago

This is a good show and all...but the more I watch it you realise the world of Pete and Pete does have some extremely suspicious adults lurking around in it...first artie now the janitor, even to a degree that ice cream man...I suppose it was a more innocent time and the nature of the show is supposed to be just innocently surreal, and it probably is my warped mind, but if I was their parent I don't think I would be keen on letting them out at all with these characters running around...

BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago

@BelatedCommiseration - Actually the early 90s wasn't what I would term an age of innocence for children It was during the mid to late 1980s when the mass media in the U.S. generated what you could term child molestation "scares" (and I'm not discounting the real trauma experienced by victims of abuse). So perhaps the show presented adult characters of dubious reliability as a reaction to that, in the sense that you could be weird without necessarily being an abuser? Maybe, I'm not sure.

mustafaFLOUTStheDMCA 5 months ago

@mustafaFLOUTStheDMCA It was in the mid to late eighties that the spotlight was suddenly put on child molestation. Especially on childrens homes scandals and to a certain degree on the catholic church (although that would blow up more later). But the whole late nineties tabloid induced public hysteria around paedophilia had not become as culturally insidious at the time Pete and Pete came out. I reckon they could have done without artie anyway. He's not all that brilliant. Nona is better.

BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago

@BelatedCommiseration - Artie's character is WAY over-the-top, and they did fade him out at the end of Season 2---but I must admit I've come to appreciate him more of late whereas previously I found him irritating.

mustafaFLOUTStheDMCA 5 months ago

Artie and other unrealistic characters are what make this show so great in my opinion. It's taking an everyday Anywhere, USA type of town and not only having extraordinary events happen within but the characters treat those events and characters as if they're normal.

It's a sort of literary phenomenon in my eyes, sort of a "Hitchhiker's Guide" sort of thing found usually in satire, where amazing things happen that characters take in stride.

tetrisclock 4 months ago

@tetrisclock Further to my last coment I do understand that the makers of the sereis were going for the surreal and taking a sideways glance at the inherant weirdness and mythology surrounding suburban, especially American suburban, life. But, as I say, even in their world artie does jar for me, although he does have his moments and I am sure you are right that there was no intention in the series to make him a suspicous character, but it still came off that way, on occasion, in my opinion.

BelatedCommiseration 4 months ago

If nothing else it reflects the state of society today. Back when I first watched P&P, that stuff just wasn't in my mind. I didn't even think of that stuff until I got on YouTube and saw people writing it.

I'd be interested in knowing if kids today are cognizant of things like pedophiles and other sexual predators. If so I feel truly sorry for kids today.

Just appears to me like every successive generation of parents is becoming less and less secure.

tetrisclock 4 months ago 3

@tetrisclock Like the uploader mustafafloutsthedmca said the early nineties were not really so innocent, and in fact thats when the 'paedophile ring' scare started, as thats when most of the revelations from the seventies to eighties of insitutional child abuse started being made known. I am sure that kids themselves would not feel threatened by the artie character. I think most would find him annoying and strange, only naming it later through older, and possibly more distorted, hindsight.

BelatedCommiseration 4 months ago

Well regardless of the public sentiment towards pedophiles and other feared things in society at the time, I doubt that the creators of the show wanted to put any of that in front of a camera. Again it was a kids' show.

And I never really fond Artie to be annoying.

tetrisclock 4 months ago

@tetrisclock As I say...I agree that there was nothing intentional about it. In fact I didn't use the pedophile moniker in my original comment...I'm just saying that on a relatable level, if I was a parent, I would be somewhat dubious about letting my kids hang around with characters like that. At the end of the day its all a matter of opinion. I feel the character jars with the others, you don't appen to agree and you are entitled to your opinion.

BelatedCommiseration 4 months ago

@tetrisclock That is what your grandparents probably said, as for me, I think all is well.

AbbeyRoadFortyLicks 3 months ago

Furthermore, a lot of those characters, especially Artie can't just be taken at face value. Watching this show again, they all seem so symbolic. Artie for example is like a physical manifestation of childhood, like how children want to believe they'll stay children even when they're adults, and Artie is that adult child.

tetrisclock 4 months ago

@tetrisclock I agree with you. But in watching a work of fiction you inevitably compare and relate it to real world situations. It is an integral part of identifying and enjoying the characters if nothing else. The suspension of disbelief works only works if a world follows its own rules and you can empathize with the characters. I never got this from artie, because he was an adult who seemed visible to everyone yet didn't follow the precedant set by the other adults in the series.

BelatedCommiseration 4 months ago

This rings especially true in my mind when at the end of the series Artie is literally cast out by all the adults, and the children are taught to hate him for no real reason, like their parents are trying to unnaturally mature them too early, and Artie is forced to mature as well, and at the end young Pete consciously makes the decision to let Artie leave, consciously deciding to begin the process of growing up.

tetrisclock 4 months ago

@tetrisclock - And ironically, we find an adult character played by Iggy Pop among Artie's condemners---which on a certain level highlights the hypocrisy involved.

mustafaFLOUTStheDMCA 4 months ago

I had no idea Iggy Pop was in that episode!

tetrisclock 4 months ago

@tetrisclock - Iggy Pop wasn't in the episode "Don't Tread on Pete" but in later ones, specifically "Farewell, My Little Viking" in which Artie makes his exit.

mustafaFLOUTStheDMCA 4 months ago

If the show was a documentary then you would have a point, but this is fiction, and with a fictitious story you can't make assumptions about characters if there's no chance your assumption makes any sense.

In short Artie is a super hero who's a hero for all the children. Do you honestly think there's any chance that the creators of this show wanted Artie to have any sordid qualities? It makes no sense, so those qualities are only opinions of the viewer.

tetrisclock 4 months ago

That's the thing about fiction too. No matter how much you think a certain character is something or other, if you have proof that facet was unintentional it must not be there.

Like if you went and asked a writer if a character was mean and he told you no, then that's the truth because he created the character and the story.

P&P was a kids' show, and it certainly wasn't trying to sneak in unwholesome material, therefore none of these "suspicious" characters could possibly be so.

tetrisclock 4 months ago

i love it when the trader kid, walked past the camera with a big cake!

kitcho182 7 months ago

lol I wrote shit on my hands for tests all the time back in highschool...hahaha pete is a amateur

thefatman69dude 7 months ago

magda's a babe.

TheSmutchypuss 8 months ago

...Oh, hello Mr. Tucker.

ChaseManhattan516 8 months ago

come on pete "The Shine" he ain't talkin bout the shine on the floor from the buffer hes talkin bout that good ol moonshine u dumbass you can always fine the truth in "The Shine" lol wow and this was a kids show i watched.

pconway1535 9 months ago