judô vs jiu jitsu - kimura vs helio gracie 1951 X柔道柔術（ブラジル）

[Beelzebub070]

Gyaku Ude Garami, very dangerous move. Much respect to Kimura and Gracie. RIP. Roll in Peace.

[gerardoeross]

en lo apsoluto, esto no intenta desacreditarlo.

al contrario kimura nombro a helio el mejor luchador de su tiempo ya que con un peso de mas de 85 kilos necesito mas de 1 hora 30 para vencer a un hombre de 63 kilos. (habiendo dicho antes del combate, que no duraria 15 minutos) después de ese combate aumento considerablemente la popularidad del jiu jitsu brasileño como arte y deporte casi puro de la mano de los gracie...

[guardplayer723]

I'm confused, is this an attempt to discount or discredit the skill of Helio Gracie? Kimura, at this point, should have been a far more obviously dominant grappler. He was a far bigger man than Helio, with far more experience, Kiumnura admitted himself he didn;t expect that big of a fight from Helio.

[pkjdm]

@guardplayer723

Kimura was smaller than Helio in fact, and had at most 10 kilos advantage, that history that kimura was giant 1,90cm and 40 kilos heavier is pure Rorion Gracie Bulshit, Helio lost got toyed around, Kimura was way better than Helio, its not about the art it is all about the fighter.

[Thomasgipsy]

@pkjdm Thats correct,actually I read that Kimura himself had said that he was only 11pounds as in 5 kg heavier than Helio,Gracies have always been bad losers,Kimura was just a much much better fighter