Greece does not owe anyone anything-Let every creditor get the money owed from the corrupt politicians they gave the money to knowing fully well they were corrupt
greece is a cess pool of corruption this greek gov is goldman sacks bitches how can the greeks not just put them all in jail, well mthe whole system is corrupt and if the greeks dont clean their house really good of this corrupt pigs they will drive the whole eu down and in the end they will leave the euro and will be still a corrupt country, clean it now, crash ur gov and put them in jail
@EdgeUHF so who is to blame for the tax evasion that forces the gov to borrow money? THE GREEK PEOPLE!, they dont want to pay taxes but then they want a high standard of living cant have it both ways, let them crash and burn and bring down the shitty EU with them ill be sitting laughing at them.
@bluetillidie1 the crisis is orchestrated by the higher forces that be, and no it is not due to tax evasion, debt or any other factor, it is all ORCHESTRATED, look at the debt of each country, it says it all.
@waterstone21 let me guess your a lefty? "i want things we cant afford but dont want to pay for them" , socialism is great until you run out of OTHER peoples mone, time to wake up to the fact that greece is bankrupt because of spending money they have. scumbag? look at yourself
@bluetillidie1 Lefty? Lol you could not be more wrong. My reasoning is that the people should not suffer for the corrupt government. On top of that, Germany never repaid its enormous debts to Greece and yet they have the audacity to put on such a tough stance on lending them back their own wealth with huge interest along with it.
Don't buy the terror from media, 3 weeks now things in Syntagma square are peacefull and massive!!! not only demostrating but mostly speaking about solutions and change that will come from the people, not a political party or a "hero". So Greeks are doing fine and finally are awake :)
let em sayin that well pay...im not gonna pay their mistakes no mater what.i havent payed until now and ill keep doing it.i even got back the 400 i wasnt suposed to get evry month.so i should get 600 and now i get 1200 euros and they dont know.mmmm its cool beeing smart and outsmarting them leting em thining that they can make u pay.
For your info, have a look at International Viewpoint online magazine and read the article: Greece - The very symbol of illegitimate debt to find out how Greece spent money.
Greece still pays for a "war loan" that was forced to grant to the German Reich!!
TITLE SHALL SAY : THE REBELLION AGAINST THE ELITE POWER OF FRANCE,GERMANY, UK AND US ! WE WILL KICK YOU OUT OF OUR COUNTRY! WE DON`T NEED YOUR LIES! IF YOU COME TO GRECE YOU DIE !
@njdevil281 you are so rhong, America has the biggest financial problem from all countries in the world, but she can cut new money every time she needs do solve it...
@SIGN666 Do you have a private oil well? or gold mine? or mayby your own counterfait money printing press. Where is the money going to come from???? Wellfare states are bankrupt and need banks and money markets to lend money as do consumers to buy cars,homes etc..or mayby you like to live in an pre-industrial era of bartertrade??
Greek people live far above their own possibilities. Their standard of life was so pumped by EU aids. Greece is the most corrupted and useless country of Europe. I say to greek people to emigrate in Turkey and to kiss the ass of turkish people for a job. They could work in the fields as nigger.
@deepenhancer really? Was that necessary? What century do you live in, when its ok to call anyone a "nigger". Go get fucked in the face by an aids ridden elephant. (note: I do realize elephants don't get aids, but whatever...it seemed like a nice sentence for a bigot. :)
@MCrushala Your wellness was pumped by EU aids and by public debt. So it's right you have to pay now. You criticize capitalism, but without capitalism your balcanic-peripheric peninsula would be under control of comunism like Bulgaria. Kiss the ass of EU and do not offend banks!
Why ever common Greeks wanted to belong to the European Union is a mystery to me. Ignorance is not just rampant in the United States. I am hoping the Greek populace will force a leave of the EU, throw out the central bankers and create a national currency backed by gold and silver.
@Elinitsam Sounds nice but first the greecs have to find the gold and silver to back up their new currency and also squeeze all those selfish greec tax-cheaters whose debts probably runs into the billions of US$.
Go see Italy's mess and dont worry about Greece, they have their bailout and things will turn out fine. America started this and so did wall street and you fucks talk shit about greece? If it weren't for Greece you would not know how to wipe your ass you little farts..
@JAEAREONE Greec people always blame someone else and refers to a 2000 year old history to excuse corruption,missmanagement,tax-cheating and missmanagement of EU-funds.
@am1966ath I'm not Greek nor do I have to be to call BULLSHIT! They have every right to be pissed off. Get your facts straight before you shoot your face off.
WOW...........talk about brainwashed. The cultural power of socialism is scary. For citizens to rally the streets and demand that the government provide wealth from nothing is shocking. Does private and competitive enterprise not turn these people on??. Do Greece citizens think the Govt rubs pennies together to create nickels (wealth) the way private enterprise does?? Probably just a Socialist thing like in the U.S.. Shouldn't have given up your sovereignty yohoo!!!!
Military spending is a drop in the bucket, military spending is only 5 to 10 billion a year, the Greeks need to beg for 30 billion every quater to even pay for toilet paper, so the leftist stinkin peacenicks are already blaming everybody but themselves for this thievery of people they borrowed the money from (Dutch/German/Danish pension funds).
@leonidas512 You Belgian moron! You don't know what you're talking about. Who stole from whom? Germany still owes Greece hundreds of billions (in Euro), because they never paid WWII compensations, as they ought to do. They even included a clause in their latest "loan" that Greece should not raise any further demands on that.
It's the economy stoopid!. Capitalism has always had boom and bust. It's inherent in the system. The bubble bursts and the people at the bottom, who never really gained from the 'boom' years, get shafted again. Whilst the 'bosses' are telling everyone 'we' have to tighten our belts, they get fatter and fatter. I very nearly swore then....
That's right the measures have been made. We lose our money. The more fortunate Greeks leave their country (because with their corruption is just as much worth as their loyalty to a country, or they vote for communism, getting big cuts on oil and gas)
@SIGN666 how come everytime people are whining about wanting more stuff from the government your there to pump up the greatness of anarchism? the big government welfare state has failed and always will. how are you by the way? still wallowing in misery caused by the fatcats?
ahh the welfare state combined with massive government. greeces population 11m, workforce 4m, 1/3 of those government workers, if anyone can think thats sustainable they need to take 9th grade economics. the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. the dominos are falling, your complaining is useless and your dreams of anarchy are childish.
With crime and lies the Greek politics sneaked there way into the European Community. A corrupt country where doctors let you die in Hospital if you don´t bribe them, the same all over the greek bureaucracy. This has to be changed !
"Fakelaki " time is over ! Almost 30 years of mismanagement comes to an end. The Leaders of the only 2 political parties need to be taken to court, and holding responsible for there decade long crimes and corruption.
1.59 that was our doing we are fully responsibile.Meaning we the Greek people made our children slaves are we the Goldman thugs are we Soros and Paulson hedge fund speculators mafia.are we the european union new world order crowd is all our fault that cryptojews are in high levels of goverment and commerce? These self hating greeks are capable to go to any extent to divide the awakening masses.
It's the economy stoopid!. Capitalism has always had boom and bust. It's inherent in the system. The bubble bursts and the people at the bottom, who never really gained from the 'boom' years, get shafted again. Whilst the 'bosses' are telling everyone 'we' have to tighten our belts, they get fatter and fatter. I very nearly swore then....
Greece was initially ineligible for admittance into the EU because of severe budget deficits. Then the magicians at Goldman Sachs washed the balance sheet through the use of synthetic derivatives to improve the bottom line. Greece then became a member of the up and coming EU and all was well. Until now.
@TYX91101 Is this legal?? Greeks did not know about this agreements..I didn't vote these politicians,so why i have to pay for them? They cheated in the name of Greek people. SIMITIS was prime minister in Greece when Goldman Sachs started involving with the country's economy,make him and his friends pay. Will we ever be free??
I feel sorry for the Greek people, but they did bring this upon themselves: overunionization with its concomitant burdensomely expensive benefits and quashing of competition, and promises of big pensions that the government had no money to actually pay. I get as angry as anyone else when I see corporations cheat consumers or abuse employees, but government consistently proves less competent and more corrupt than the private sector.
@Linguiphile That is not true - it is when corporations get together with government , that is when government becomes "less competent and more corrupt". We don't really have here in USA real competition and private sector anymore. It is all controlled by big corporations("big money") who control governments.
the uk will see this big time. why should we pay idiots in power that are corrupted by wall street elite. i am glad we have hung parliament in uk. at least stockmarkets etc might crash first meaning debt is written off. also if uk has riots during hung parliament some smaller party might get policy right and everyone go behind that party. the uk is well poised now lol
But you are right. EU was sort of tool for USA. However even though i still see american asskissers among EU politics, it is slightly turning away from USA. However i woulod like to see this process to be speeded up, as we might get into troubles sooner than we will turn our back to United Shits out of Assholes.
@Flankymanga , the eu was set up after ww2 bretton woods on paper. the idea is to have trading blocs, collapse them one at a time and end up with one world trading platform that benefits only ruling elite and corporations. i am glad everyone is rioting. anyone against nationalism/communism is an enemy of the common people and not for democracy.
@sexybritgent well there are sides of this. On one side wars erupt as a result of growing differrences either cultural or religion or money. So it would be good to have one central sort of goverment. But on the other side this would mean a way of absolute power. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. So in a way we either need to unite under one wise and socially thinking world goverment. Or we need to retain our national forms but with much higher tolerancy towards each other.
This is the pesky politics. The main point here is that Greece nor ANY other EU country should do any serious business with US banks and or US companies at all. We across EuroZone should have self-sustainable market not very much globally integrated with US. Recently every bad thing that has a global impact is comming from USA.... we need to cut this. Euro is not dead. This Greece crisis have again helped some europeans to open their eyes as to who our nemesis truly is -> USA.
Greece has been living for loong in a luxury life. On one side im fully symphatizing with common people that protests against this because it was not their fault that the entire country came into this situation. On the other side this is the face of cruel reality they can do nothing with. Their salaries have to be cut, spending of entire country have to be cut. Otherwise it would mean the bankruptcy of Greece.
@Flankymanga NO! Greece has to stop importing expensive shit from Germany. Their trade deficit is 31 BILLION Euro and the main exporter to Greece is Germany. They cut imports and this will solve half their problems. They start exporting serious and this will solve all their problems. Also, they should stop playing by the laws imposed by EU. They should get out of Euro-Zone and return to Drachmas. They should start importing stuff from China without high taxes and export the goods to Europe.
@shockolanu Well while i understand what you are trying to say, but this would lead to the disintegration of EU. I know that Germany is the number one economy of EU, the thing is how you can make a country like Greece technologically on pair with Germany producing goods of very high grade and being successfull selling it outside the Greece. I heard that Greece refused the help of China. Chinese were willing to buy Greece National Bank and their debt.
@Flankymanga So what? Why should ANYONE care about EU? I don't care about EU and I don't live in Greece. They brought us nothing but troubles. EU and NATO are tools of USA and Israel. Why should my country's economy be broken into little pieces and sold to the western countries? Just because we want to be part of an organization that doesn't really give us any benefits???
Why should Greece be on pair with Germany on the technology chapter? Greece can develop farming. They should refuse everyone.
@shockolanu Well the problem is this: Greece people are now acustomed to some life standards. They have mobile phones, they use computers and so on. Some of these technological good are imported from germany or other countries. Living in EU have definitelly some positive things. For example my country received huge amounts of money from EU Fonds for logistical, education and technology development. Liberalisation of telecomunication markets and other segments were benefiting as well.
@Flankymanga Mobile phones and computers don't come from Germany. They already have mobile phones so they don't need more. Computers can be upgraded or a new system can be bought once every 2 years.
Sure, here they give us money too. The difference is that the money are managed by the state and if tomorrow I want to get funds to build a solar power plant, they will turn me down. Instead, they invest in shady businesses which are owned by the people from government themselves. Here is very silly.
@shockolanu well they do come from germany. I mean not neccessarily from german companies but even then on this industry Germany have great impact. Like for example AMD have its CPU manufacturing facility in Dressden. Many German companies manufacture small chips for mobile phone markets and other things. What europe needs is Europe way of thinking. We should get rid of corrupted politicans. We should install SocialDemocratic parties and we should turn our back to USA/Israel.
@shockolanu But there were bad things as well. There is unemployment rate in my country high. And thoose people that work common workers are working in a "slave" manner. In politics working is "good citizen". But here on a common citizen level there isn't every work as work. You can work as manager doing nothing, signing few papers during day and arning 3000 Euro and you can work in development lab as researcher hardly getting 1500 Euro or as a common worker getting silly 500 Euro or worse.
@Flankymanga You are right, high positioned slobs get all the money and the people who are doing the REAL work, for instance teachers, get salaries that are not even worth the trouble. No manager or bank director will teach my son in school, he will be taught by teachers who will get lousy salaries and most probably will not do their job properly because they lost interest and motivation.
@shockolanu Indeed, but whats most frustrating is that people that have talent and would normally choose to do something else are becomming bankers, managers because of high salary. In today world many people consider work not to be fun or motivational, but to be a way how to earn money and thus how to earn a decent life. Many people in my country are working on job positions that they dont consider fun, but they are given big salaries as they would be given from work they would consider as fun.
It's the economy stoopid!. Capitalism has always had boom and bust. It's inherent in the system. The bubble bursts and the people at the bottom, who never really gained from the 'boom' years, get shafted again. Whilst the 'bosses' are telling everyone 'we' have to tighten our belts, they get fatter and fatter. I very nearly swore then....
The Western and Northern European countries filled up Greece's pantry over the years and they ate everything in it without ever restocking it. Now the pantry is empty and the greeks decided to walk across the street and check out if there's anything left in our pantries. Pathetic, lazy, corrupt, Greek idiots. We should throw them out of the Eurozone and occupy their dogshit country.
@Lucasisgek82 Western and Northern European countries do NOT represent the entire Europe. They ate everything??? How about checking the trade deficit of Greece which is 31 BILLION Euro and seeing who are the main exporters for Greece: GERMANY, ITALY. Why do the Greek people have to pay for sustaining the exports of Germany and Italy??? Keep your filthy money, Greece can regulate it's trade and it will not lose money.
Oh, and I invite you all to try and touch Greece. You will die like maggots.
The Papandreou Political Mafia is Jewish !!! - Only the name is Hellenic , from George Papandreou senior (palio) who married a Jew bitch , his children also married Jew bitches ! They are all Jews who take their orders from The Jewish Banking Mafia in London and New York ! - Goldman Sachs & Rothschild's destroyed Hellas economy. Take the DRACHMA BACK , save Hellas from The Jewish Banking Mafia !!!
Say what will about Americans, what we do do is work very hard for a living. Most of you in greece have a shit pig atittude you have sucked the teet of mother greece dry and you will now pay for it. expect 12-14 hour days just to put a few grains of rice on the table for the family. Good luck....
Austerity wouldn't have to "tear apart the fabric of society" if only your people would condescend to work. But most of your people would rather riot and murder bankers or other people with jobs than work.
I disagree, for more reasons than you can write posts. In short, it has to do with the belligerent posturing on the part of Greece's neighbours, and numerous, numerous outstanding historical grievances which those countries refuse to address, much less admit.
Greece is constantly under threat from terrorism and outright military invasion from those neighbours, even as a member of NATO. This has everything to do with the state policies of the leading NATO states.
Greece needs a strong modern army to have an edge over belligerent Turkey which is 7 times bigger, Muslim, and aspires to become a superpower. FYROM is also hostile. The only peaceful neighbor we have is Italy.
@Relugus - Goldman Sachs has NOTHING to do with the crisis in Greek and the coming crisis in Western Europe!!! The problem is SOCIALISM. As Margaret Thacher said "The problem with Socialism it that sooner or later you run out of someone else's money". And the Greek socialist government has ran out of their money and now they want Germany and other Western European countries to pay!
@bebop54 , It has everything to do with politics, because every greek whored themselves to whatever party promised them the biggist presents, highest pay increases for the civil workers and more parasitical behavior, well the party is up, and here is the bill, pay up you filthy parasites!
@Relugus The Greeks need to stop spending period. A free government doesn't employ 1/3 of the population like Greece did. The world can't afford people at age 50 retiringwith pay and medical coverage like the Greek "public servants" recieve.
This will take down the NWO - the waste in Military and Pharma and Old Energy (Oil). All hell is going to break loose all over the world but a better world will emerge.
Good luck with the suicide bill. Of course the ruling class wants a giant bail out so they can stuff money up their asses only to have the country survive for a few more minutes. The bail out conditions involving the mandatory purchase of military purchases is unethical WTF???????
Greece: Destroying everything will just make things worse. Think of ways to improve the situation. There are many. Focus on them! Get on with the recovery!!
@skazhiprivet easy for you to say with food on your table , the greeks are barely surviving even before the crisis . i dont care how nice of a man someone can be but a hungry man is a crazy man and will do w/e to get food in his stomach remember food = life this is a matter of survival here ...
@Damienm7 - Yes, I know what you mean. It´s a very bad situation either way. Maybe Greece should just default. But then? It´s a big problem because it´s not only Greece in trouble, but many countries. The economy could just collapse. If I had the responsibility, I would look to sell or lease out anything I can to raise money painlessly. It´s like a family with a large estate going bnkrpt. Better sell the assets and eat, no?
It is planned ahead, see the proof, but it not will not have the same ending. Soon the civilians will pick up their weapons and not the flags. The prime minister's head will be for sell on ebay
@krum369 i couldn't agree more our government passed a similar bailout for 400 billion dollars of OUR money and nobody did shit. I'm an American and yes there are a lot of fat ass, lazy people in this country but we have even more hard working people, good people that need to stand up like the Greeks did.
@captainpegs07 Why do you guys think people are always jelous of America and Americans? pretty stupid way of thinking, I myself am an American but I can see whats become of America.
@krum369 YOU are a pussy. When the kids told you this in highschool, they were correct. When they teased you and made you cry, you deserved it. YOU can be a loser your whole life and noone cares because your world is so small it only effects yourself.
@captainpegs07 I was a big fucker in high school, no one would dare call me a pussy lol, good response thou, has nothing to do with the subject, go back to watching American Idol, it'll keep you happy and suck your time up.
@krum369 -- That is just like the illuminati stuff, to "tell us the truth" to keep us unconfident. There will be this in america, like every other country when the sleeping beast is fucked to the point where it cant ignore the anal-pain any longer.
A nation which has Socrates, Plato and Aristoteles in her heritage cannot accept to become the slave of Jewish bankers
let's get all rid of this criminal plutocracy!!
Goldman Sachs is the bank which engineered the Greek crisis
rambo753 3 months ago
Greece does not owe anyone anything-Let every creditor get the money owed from the corrupt politicians they gave the money to knowing fully well they were corrupt
5hitter 5 months ago
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greece is a cess pool of corruption this greek gov is goldman sacks bitches how can the greeks not just put them all in jail, well mthe whole system is corrupt and if the greeks dont clean their house really good of this corrupt pigs they will drive the whole eu down and in the end they will leave the euro and will be still a corrupt country, clean it now, crash ur gov and put them in jail
ukusapillage 6 months ago
Greeks have every right to riot if the government fucks us up badly !
molonlave2010 6 months ago
open your fuckin eyes. we are 6 billions people in this world. the zionist jews that made this economic crysis are 100.
6 billions vs 100 ? WHAT THE &*?@ ??? just open your eyes! everyone has the right to live a good life and enjoy the life that he was granted with !
beibiro 7 months ago 2
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let the fucking greeks go under, only way they will ever learn to pay their taxes like every other person.
bluetillidie1 8 months ago
@bluetillidie1 you don't know anything, the people aren't to blame for the government's debt.
EdgeUHF 8 months ago
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@EdgeUHF so who is to blame for the tax evasion that forces the gov to borrow money? THE GREEK PEOPLE!, they dont want to pay taxes but then they want a high standard of living cant have it both ways, let them crash and burn and bring down the shitty EU with them ill be sitting laughing at them.
bluetillidie1 8 months ago
@bluetillidie1 the crisis is orchestrated by the higher forces that be, and no it is not due to tax evasion, debt or any other factor, it is all ORCHESTRATED, look at the debt of each country, it says it all.
EdgeUHF 8 months ago
@bluetillidie1 You are a stupid fucking idiot and probably a tax dodger yourself you filthy scumbag.
waterstone21 8 months ago
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@waterstone21 let me guess your a lefty? "i want things we cant afford but dont want to pay for them" , socialism is great until you run out of OTHER peoples mone, time to wake up to the fact that greece is bankrupt because of spending money they have. scumbag? look at yourself
bluetillidie1 8 months ago
@bluetillidie1 Lefty? Lol you could not be more wrong. My reasoning is that the people should not suffer for the corrupt government. On top of that, Germany never repaid its enormous debts to Greece and yet they have the audacity to put on such a tough stance on lending them back their own wealth with huge interest along with it.
waterstone21 8 months ago
Don't buy the terror from media, 3 weeks now things in Syntagma square are peacefull and massive!!! not only demostrating but mostly speaking about solutions and change that will come from the people, not a political party or a "hero". So Greeks are doing fine and finally are awake :)
Love, Athens
geomidas 8 months ago
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Sell this scamming country of thiefs to Nigeria
victor9245 8 months ago
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Go to work untill your 67th like everyone else and do not complain!
Dutch89Girl 9 months ago
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let em sayin that well pay...im not gonna pay their mistakes no mater what.i havent payed until now and ill keep doing it.i even got back the 400 i wasnt suposed to get evry month.so i should get 600 and now i get 1200 euros and they dont know.mmmm its cool beeing smart and outsmarting them leting em thining that they can make u pay.
itachiitachi1946 9 months ago
IM NOT PAYING SHIT ! THE GOVERMENT FUCKED THEY GONNA PAY
grimslider 9 months ago
wtf with that idiot's hair?
BehelitOutlaw 9 months ago
For your info, have a look at International Viewpoint online magazine and read the article: Greece - The very symbol of illegitimate debt to find out how Greece spent money.
Greece still pays for a "war loan" that was forced to grant to the German Reich!!
vper1982 11 months ago 2
bring down the greedy bankers burn the bastards out why should the world so a few people can get rich enough is enough
belfastbob5 1 year ago
TITLE SHALL SAY : THE REBELLION AGAINST THE ELITE POWER OF FRANCE,GERMANY, UK AND US ! WE WILL KICK YOU OUT OF OUR COUNTRY! WE DON`T NEED YOUR LIES! IF YOU COME TO GRECE YOU DIE !
LAKONIA24 1 year ago
US will soon follow with 14 trillion debt. High inflation is already predicted before end of winter.
orwellwasrite 1 year ago
@orwellwasrite Except unlike Greece America has a growing population and economy. America can also cut its budget deficit quite quickly if need be.
njdevil281 1 year ago 2
@njdevil281 you are so rhong, America has the biggest financial problem from all countries in the world, but she can cut new money every time she needs do solve it...
sTeF8eO 1 year ago
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@SIGN666 Do you have a private oil well? or gold mine? or mayby your own counterfait money printing press. Where is the money going to come from???? Wellfare states are bankrupt and need banks and money markets to lend money as do consumers to buy cars,homes etc..or mayby you like to live in an pre-industrial era of bartertrade??
am1966ath 1 year ago
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Greek people live far above their own possibilities. Their standard of life was so pumped by EU aids. Greece is the most corrupted and useless country of Europe. I say to greek people to emigrate in Turkey and to kiss the ass of turkish people for a job. They could work in the fields as nigger.
deepenhancer 1 year ago
@deepenhancer really? Was that necessary? What century do you live in, when its ok to call anyone a "nigger". Go get fucked in the face by an aids ridden elephant. (note: I do realize elephants don't get aids, but whatever...it seemed like a nice sentence for a bigot. :)
MCrushala 1 year ago
@MCrushala Your wellness was pumped by EU aids and by public debt. So it's right you have to pay now. You criticize capitalism, but without capitalism your balcanic-peripheric peninsula would be under control of comunism like Bulgaria. Kiss the ass of EU and do not offend banks!
deepenhancer 1 year ago
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@deepenhancer Thank you for that comment.
am1966ath 1 year ago
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@deepenhancer Im sorry to say that what you say is true...Greece is a European Mexico without the oil.
am1966ath 1 year ago
Why ever common Greeks wanted to belong to the European Union is a mystery to me. Ignorance is not just rampant in the United States. I am hoping the Greek populace will force a leave of the EU, throw out the central bankers and create a national currency backed by gold and silver.
Elinitsam 1 year ago
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@Elinitsam Sounds nice but first the greecs have to find the gold and silver to back up their new currency and also squeeze all those selfish greec tax-cheaters whose debts probably runs into the billions of US$.
am1966ath 1 year ago
Go see Italy's mess and dont worry about Greece, they have their bailout and things will turn out fine. America started this and so did wall street and you fucks talk shit about greece? If it weren't for Greece you would not know how to wipe your ass you little farts..
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@JAEAREONE Greec people always blame someone else and refers to a 2000 year old history to excuse corruption,missmanagement,tax-cheating and missmanagement of EU-funds.
am1966ath 1 year ago
@am1966ath I'm not Greek nor do I have to be to call BULLSHIT! They have every right to be pissed off. Get your facts straight before you shoot your face off.
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@am1966ath toatally agree with that, greeks blame everyone, expt themselves
zoupie2 1 year ago
WOW...........talk about brainwashed. The cultural power of socialism is scary. For citizens to rally the streets and demand that the government provide wealth from nothing is shocking. Does private and competitive enterprise not turn these people on??. Do Greece citizens think the Govt rubs pennies together to create nickels (wealth) the way private enterprise does?? Probably just a Socialist thing like in the U.S.. Shouldn't have given up your sovereignty yohoo!!!!
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Military spending is a drop in the bucket, military spending is only 5 to 10 billion a year, the Greeks need to beg for 30 billion every quater to even pay for toilet paper, so the leftist stinkin peacenicks are already blaming everybody but themselves for this thievery of people they borrowed the money from (Dutch/German/Danish pension funds).
Fuck greece, fuck the parasites,
leonidas512 1 year ago
@leonidas512 You Belgian moron! You don't know what you're talking about. Who stole from whom? Germany still owes Greece hundreds of billions (in Euro), because they never paid WWII compensations, as they ought to do. They even included a clause in their latest "loan" that Greece should not raise any further demands on that.
Mirach57 3 months ago
@leonidas512 And please stop using this nickname! You know Leonidas was Greek, right?
Mirach57 3 months ago
1:20 bricks were shat O_o
i had that guy as my Greek tutor.
joakeimmcgrath 1 year ago
only ahmadinjad
danesh43 1 year ago
Germany suck my Greece Big COCK!!, and all the wall street monkeys....
MrGreeceCrisis 1 year ago 3
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WTF??? Censorship on Youtube!!!!!!
It's the economy stoopid!. Capitalism has always had boom and bust. It's inherent in the system. The bubble bursts and the people at the bottom, who never really gained from the 'boom' years, get shafted again. Whilst the 'bosses' are telling everyone 'we' have to tighten our belts, they get fatter and fatter. I very nearly swore then....
jamiejoh04 6 days ago
jamiejoh04 1 year ago 2
The moronic masses of entitlement class.
You'll see them rallying here in the uSA when we try to take our bread out of their mouth.
clustro 1 year ago
Solidarity with the greek people!
muchmoremrniceguy 1 year ago 49
@muchmoremrniceguy What is that supposed to mean?
flamesdemon19 8 months ago
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bankers+lawyers+police+judge+politicians+criminals+terrorist+gamblinglords
+rebelnarcopolitician+dictators+rulers+etc = DIRTY CAPITALIST SCAM PIGS.
BANKERS & DRUGLORDS screwed life & society in human history.
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
"GOD dont SAVE the LANDGRABBER PIG CAPITALIST QUEEN"
SAVE the ANIMALS & NATURE. END THE DEBT.
kopellhinex 3 months ago
And every nationality in what country they operate should be taxed by that.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
We should have a tax system that can be implemented when countries seem to lose the stability to follow other countries.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
That's right the measures have been made. We lose our money. The more fortunate Greeks leave their country (because with their corruption is just as much worth as their loyalty to a country, or they vote for communism, getting big cuts on oil and gas)
Brulluhman 1 year ago
Greeks are grounded. Every flight that transports Greeks should be put on the black list.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
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@SIGN666 how come everytime people are whining about wanting more stuff from the government your there to pump up the greatness of anarchism? the big government welfare state has failed and always will. how are you by the way? still wallowing in misery caused by the fatcats?
psycologicalnudity 1 year ago
just imagine that 76% of the greek people had voted just 7 months ago the 2 big political parties which are responsible for the public debt
kounouphs 1 year ago
@kounouphs 76 % of those who voted kounouphs.
ibizapao 1 year ago
@ibizapao forgive me i don't know english very well
kounouphs 1 year ago
@kounouphs ennow to 76% apo aytous pou mpikan ston kopo na psifisoun.
ibizapao 1 year ago
@ibizapao ναι γιατι σαν λαος νομιζουμε οτι κανουμε αντισταση οταν κανουμε αποχη,Και κει αποδεικνυουμε ποσο μαλακες ειμαστε σαν λαος
kounouphs 1 year ago
ahh the welfare state combined with massive government. greeces population 11m, workforce 4m, 1/3 of those government workers, if anyone can think thats sustainable they need to take 9th grade economics. the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. the dominos are falling, your complaining is useless and your dreams of anarchy are childish.
psycologicalnudity 1 year ago
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I´m going to by Acropolis it´s cheap now... ;-)
With crime and lies the Greek politics sneaked there way into the European Community. A corrupt country where doctors let you die in Hospital if you don´t bribe them, the same all over the greek bureaucracy. This has to be changed !
"Fakelaki " time is over ! Almost 30 years of mismanagement comes to an end. The Leaders of the only 2 political parties need to be taken to court, and holding responsible for there decade long crimes and corruption.
carbonhealth 1 year ago
@carbonhealth Well said!
kalikatik1 9 months ago
@SIGN666
who gives a crap what the anarchists do? lol
jeffmagic32 1 year ago
1.59 that was our doing we are fully responsibile.Meaning we the Greek people made our children slaves are we the Goldman thugs are we Soros and Paulson hedge fund speculators mafia.are we the european union new world order crowd is all our fault that cryptojews are in high levels of goverment and commerce? These self hating greeks are capable to go to any extent to divide the awakening masses.
neo19158 1 year ago
democracy is the facism of many people .
thaN0s1993 1 year ago
Anyone notice the Trolls whenever issues like this are discussed? Long discourses to block out anyone else from contributing ... and they talk crap!
jamiejoh04 1 year ago
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It's the economy stoopid!. Capitalism has always had boom and bust. It's inherent in the system. The bubble bursts and the people at the bottom, who never really gained from the 'boom' years, get shafted again. Whilst the 'bosses' are telling everyone 'we' have to tighten our belts, they get fatter and fatter. I very nearly swore then....
jamiejoh04 1 year ago
If it wasn't for Greece there would never have been a Europe.
Full stop.
nmt1969 1 year ago
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@nmt1969 "If it wasn't for Greece there would never have been a Europe."
What is that sentence supposed to mean?
Gary190tube 10 months ago
If it wasn't for Greece there would never have been a Europe.
nmt1969 1 year ago
Fuck FYROM the Yugoslav bastards and fuck the Muslims in turkey.
nmt1969 1 year ago
Such a shame. Goodluck from uk.
Mattyuk1 1 year ago 3
Greece was initially ineligible for admittance into the EU because of severe budget deficits. Then the magicians at Goldman Sachs washed the balance sheet through the use of synthetic derivatives to improve the bottom line. Greece then became a member of the up and coming EU and all was well. Until now.
TYX91101 1 year ago
@TYX91101 Is this legal?? Greeks did not know about this agreements..I didn't vote these politicians,so why i have to pay for them? They cheated in the name of Greek people. SIMITIS was prime minister in Greece when Goldman Sachs started involving with the country's economy,make him and his friends pay. Will we ever be free??
ibizapao 1 year ago 15
@ibizapao An unfortunate downside with democracy; it matters little what a minority of the people wanted.
hornetpalooza 8 months ago
I feel sorry for the Greek people, but they did bring this upon themselves: overunionization with its concomitant burdensomely expensive benefits and quashing of competition, and promises of big pensions that the government had no money to actually pay. I get as angry as anyone else when I see corporations cheat consumers or abuse employees, but government consistently proves less competent and more corrupt than the private sector.
Linguiphile 1 year ago
@Linguiphile That is not true - it is when corporations get together with government , that is when government becomes "less competent and more corrupt". We don't really have here in USA real competition and private sector anymore. It is all controlled by big corporations("big money") who control governments.
asoly1 1 year ago
@Linguiphile
Dream on, Mr Ideologue. Private companies cheat their employees all the time for everything. Get your head out of the clouds, flyboy.
seseljsrs 1 year ago
the uk will see this big time. why should we pay idiots in power that are corrupted by wall street elite. i am glad we have hung parliament in uk. at least stockmarkets etc might crash first meaning debt is written off. also if uk has riots during hung parliament some smaller party might get policy right and everyone go behind that party. the uk is well poised now lol
sexybritgent 1 year ago
But you are right. EU was sort of tool for USA. However even though i still see american asskissers among EU politics, it is slightly turning away from USA. However i woulod like to see this process to be speeded up, as we might get into troubles sooner than we will turn our back to United Shits out of Assholes.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga , the eu was set up after ww2 bretton woods on paper. the idea is to have trading blocs, collapse them one at a time and end up with one world trading platform that benefits only ruling elite and corporations. i am glad everyone is rioting. anyone against nationalism/communism is an enemy of the common people and not for democracy.
sexybritgent 1 year ago 2
@sexybritgent well there are sides of this. On one side wars erupt as a result of growing differrences either cultural or religion or money. So it would be good to have one central sort of goverment. But on the other side this would mean a way of absolute power. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. So in a way we either need to unite under one wise and socially thinking world goverment. Or we need to retain our national forms but with much higher tolerancy towards each other.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
This is the pesky politics. The main point here is that Greece nor ANY other EU country should do any serious business with US banks and or US companies at all. We across EuroZone should have self-sustainable market not very much globally integrated with US. Recently every bad thing that has a global impact is comming from USA.... we need to cut this. Euro is not dead. This Greece crisis have again helped some europeans to open their eyes as to who our nemesis truly is -> USA.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
Greece has been living for loong in a luxury life. On one side im fully symphatizing with common people that protests against this because it was not their fault that the entire country came into this situation. On the other side this is the face of cruel reality they can do nothing with. Their salaries have to be cut, spending of entire country have to be cut. Otherwise it would mean the bankruptcy of Greece.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga NO! Greece has to stop importing expensive shit from Germany. Their trade deficit is 31 BILLION Euro and the main exporter to Greece is Germany. They cut imports and this will solve half their problems. They start exporting serious and this will solve all their problems. Also, they should stop playing by the laws imposed by EU. They should get out of Euro-Zone and return to Drachmas. They should start importing stuff from China without high taxes and export the goods to Europe.
shockolanu 1 year ago
@shockolanu Well while i understand what you are trying to say, but this would lead to the disintegration of EU. I know that Germany is the number one economy of EU, the thing is how you can make a country like Greece technologically on pair with Germany producing goods of very high grade and being successfull selling it outside the Greece. I heard that Greece refused the help of China. Chinese were willing to buy Greece National Bank and their debt.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga So what? Why should ANYONE care about EU? I don't care about EU and I don't live in Greece. They brought us nothing but troubles. EU and NATO are tools of USA and Israel. Why should my country's economy be broken into little pieces and sold to the western countries? Just because we want to be part of an organization that doesn't really give us any benefits???
Why should Greece be on pair with Germany on the technology chapter? Greece can develop farming. They should refuse everyone.
shockolanu 1 year ago
@shockolanu Well the problem is this: Greece people are now acustomed to some life standards. They have mobile phones, they use computers and so on. Some of these technological good are imported from germany or other countries. Living in EU have definitelly some positive things. For example my country received huge amounts of money from EU Fonds for logistical, education and technology development. Liberalisation of telecomunication markets and other segments were benefiting as well.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga Mobile phones and computers don't come from Germany. They already have mobile phones so they don't need more. Computers can be upgraded or a new system can be bought once every 2 years.
Sure, here they give us money too. The difference is that the money are managed by the state and if tomorrow I want to get funds to build a solar power plant, they will turn me down. Instead, they invest in shady businesses which are owned by the people from government themselves. Here is very silly.
shockolanu 1 year ago
@shockolanu well they do come from germany. I mean not neccessarily from german companies but even then on this industry Germany have great impact. Like for example AMD have its CPU manufacturing facility in Dressden. Many German companies manufacture small chips for mobile phone markets and other things. What europe needs is Europe way of thinking. We should get rid of corrupted politicans. We should install SocialDemocratic parties and we should turn our back to USA/Israel.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@shockolanu But there were bad things as well. There is unemployment rate in my country high. And thoose people that work common workers are working in a "slave" manner. In politics working is "good citizen". But here on a common citizen level there isn't every work as work. You can work as manager doing nothing, signing few papers during day and arning 3000 Euro and you can work in development lab as researcher hardly getting 1500 Euro or as a common worker getting silly 500 Euro or worse.
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga You are right, high positioned slobs get all the money and the people who are doing the REAL work, for instance teachers, get salaries that are not even worth the trouble. No manager or bank director will teach my son in school, he will be taught by teachers who will get lousy salaries and most probably will not do their job properly because they lost interest and motivation.
shockolanu 1 year ago
@shockolanu Indeed, but whats most frustrating is that people that have talent and would normally choose to do something else are becomming bankers, managers because of high salary. In today world many people consider work not to be fun or motivational, but to be a way how to earn money and thus how to earn a decent life. Many people in my country are working on job positions that they dont consider fun, but they are given big salaries as they would be given from work they would consider as fun.
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jamiejoh04 1 year ago
It's the economy stoopid!. Capitalism has always had boom and bust. It's inherent in the system. The bubble bursts and the people at the bottom, who never really gained from the 'boom' years, get shafted again. Whilst the 'bosses' are telling everyone 'we' have to tighten our belts, they get fatter and fatter. I very nearly swore then....
jamiejoh04 1 year ago 2
The Western and Northern European countries filled up Greece's pantry over the years and they ate everything in it without ever restocking it. Now the pantry is empty and the greeks decided to walk across the street and check out if there's anything left in our pantries. Pathetic, lazy, corrupt, Greek idiots. We should throw them out of the Eurozone and occupy their dogshit country.
Lucasisgek82 1 year ago
@Lucasisgek82 Western and Northern European countries do NOT represent the entire Europe. They ate everything??? How about checking the trade deficit of Greece which is 31 BILLION Euro and seeing who are the main exporters for Greece: GERMANY, ITALY. Why do the Greek people have to pay for sustaining the exports of Germany and Italy??? Keep your filthy money, Greece can regulate it's trade and it will not lose money.
Oh, and I invite you all to try and touch Greece. You will die like maggots.
shockolanu 1 year ago
Igor needs a haircut .. srzly
Banez1991 1 year ago
The Papandreou Political Mafia is Jewish !!! - Only the name is Hellenic , from George Papandreou senior (palio) who married a Jew bitch , his children also married Jew bitches ! They are all Jews who take their orders from The Jewish Banking Mafia in London and New York ! - Goldman Sachs & Rothschild's destroyed Hellas economy. Take the DRACHMA BACK , save Hellas from The Jewish Banking Mafia !!!
WhereEaglesDareWWII 1 year ago
The problem is they are putting most of this on the poorer people that will be affected most by these cuts and tax hikes.
superpeople 1 year ago
Say what will about Americans, what we do do is work very hard for a living. Most of you in greece have a shit pig atittude you have sucked the teet of mother greece dry and you will now pay for it. expect 12-14 hour days just to put a few grains of rice on the table for the family. Good luck....
treypol 1 year ago
This should be happening in the states but americans are too fat and ignorant to understand what is going on.
sparky303 1 year ago
@sparky303 - And Canada IS NOT. Canada is next!
schs1977 1 year ago
Why are the Greeks acting like Nigerians?
captainpegs07 1 year ago
And the bubble keeps growning, and once it goes poof, we all will shit ourselfes, this is just the beginning.
Valdris1987 1 year ago
Austerity wouldn't have to "tear apart the fabric of society" if only your people would condescend to work. But most of your people would rather riot and murder bankers or other people with jobs than work.
DecimusIunius 1 year ago
So the United States is the largest contributor to the IMF and the IMF bailed out Greece? So Americans bailed out Greece? Audit The Fed!
alaskablows 1 year ago
Gonna be a hot summer...
Tressco 1 year ago
The Greeks need to massively slash their millitary spending; its not essential as there is no threat to them.
Goldman Sachs role in this is being covered up by the media. They concealed the debt they should be made to pay it, not ordinary people.
Relugus 1 year ago 14
@Relugus
I disagree, for more reasons than you can write posts. In short, it has to do with the belligerent posturing on the part of Greece's neighbours, and numerous, numerous outstanding historical grievances which those countries refuse to address, much less admit.
Greece is constantly under threat from terrorism and outright military invasion from those neighbours, even as a member of NATO. This has everything to do with the state policies of the leading NATO states.
seseljsrs 1 year ago
@Relugus
Greece needs a strong modern army to have an edge over belligerent Turkey which is 7 times bigger, Muslim, and aspires to become a superpower. FYROM is also hostile. The only peaceful neighbor we have is Italy.
Atromitos888 1 year ago
@Relugus The IMF outlined what they need to cut, and what they can't cut. Military spending they couldn't cut, but had to cut social benefits.
dm1133 1 year ago
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@Relugus - Goldman Sachs has NOTHING to do with the crisis in Greek and the coming crisis in Western Europe!!! The problem is SOCIALISM. As Margaret Thacher said "The problem with Socialism it that sooner or later you run out of someone else's money". And the Greek socialist government has ran out of their money and now they want Germany and other Western European countries to pay!
schs1977 1 year ago
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eloulou1985 1 year ago
@schs1977 hahahahahahahahahahaha! Good one! What socialism??? We are a capitalistic country!! hahahahaha!!
eloulou1985 1 year ago
amazing how ignorant some people are ,,
hahaaaa @eloulou1985
bebop54 1 year ago
unfortunately yes. I don't mind ignorance. I mind when they take for granted everything they are told without trying to learn on their own. @bebop54
eloulou1985 1 year ago
yes especially when they are not here first-hand ..
stay well friend @eloulou1985
bebop54 1 year ago
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@schs1977 hahahahahahahahahahaha! Good one! What socialism??? We are a capitalistic country!! hahahahaha!!
eloulou1985 1 year ago
are you kiddin'?
goldman sachs was the creditor ..
for him it's more billions for the banking junta ...
this is about the global banking system & has nothing to do with 'party politics' @schs1977
bebop54 1 year ago
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@bebop54 , It has everything to do with politics, because every greek whored themselves to whatever party promised them the biggist presents, highest pay increases for the civil workers and more parasitical behavior, well the party is up, and here is the bill, pay up you filthy parasites!
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StellandBlood 1 year ago
@leonidas512 Not everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mirach57 3 months ago
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@Relugus The Greeks need to stop spending period. A free government doesn't employ 1/3 of the population like Greece did. The world can't afford people at age 50 retiringwith pay and medical coverage like the Greek "public servants" recieve.
Glenn666 1 year ago
@Relugus
No threats? LOL!
Just read the comments from someone from our "freindly neighbors" and their diasporas.....
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 year ago
Maybe Greece should spend some more money of military expenses. They only spend billions on ships and combat planes.
BClocals 1 year ago
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Greece are the niggers of Europe!
leonidas512 1 year ago
@leonidas512 you are the asshole of youtube.
dinosfulaks 1 year ago
Wellcome to the NWO.
BITARTEN 1 year ago 5
This is the result of worshiping materialism, Wake Up, drop the paper, and go move some dirt and create your own life...
ORNGLOC 1 year ago
This will take down the NWO - the waste in Military and Pharma and Old Energy (Oil). All hell is going to break loose all over the world but a better world will emerge.
senses2000 1 year ago 3
@senses2000 I second that.
graphattic 1 year ago
this is very grave indeed, a travesty , what country in the eurozone will be next ?
cujo9 1 year ago 2
Good luck with the suicide bill. Of course the ruling class wants a giant bail out so they can stuff money up their asses only to have the country survive for a few more minutes. The bail out conditions involving the mandatory purchase of military purchases is unethical WTF???????
mephesh 1 year ago 10
@mephesh indeed
muchmoremrniceguy 1 year ago
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FreedomForMankind 1 year ago
Fuck EU
Miskatakeable 1 year ago 7
The media has a British tongue while the politicians are Greek. Do not take this lightly.
RepublicanDumbAss 1 year ago
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RepublicanDumbAss 1 year ago
Greece: Destroying everything will just make things worse. Think of ways to improve the situation. There are many. Focus on them! Get on with the recovery!!
skazhiprivet 1 year ago
@skazhiprivet I think This requires you to do more thinking....:)
agfigueroaa 1 year ago 2
@skazhiprivet We do not have the politicians that inspire trust any more. 30 years of lies, by 2 political families.
graphattic 1 year ago
@skazhiprivet easy for you to say with food on your table , the greeks are barely surviving even before the crisis . i dont care how nice of a man someone can be but a hungry man is a crazy man and will do w/e to get food in his stomach remember food = life this is a matter of survival here ...
Damienm7 1 year ago
@Damienm7 - Yes, I know what you mean. It´s a very bad situation either way. Maybe Greece should just default. But then? It´s a big problem because it´s not only Greece in trouble, but many countries. The economy could just collapse. If I had the responsibility, I would look to sell or lease out anything I can to raise money painlessly. It´s like a family with a large estate going bnkrpt. Better sell the assets and eat, no?
skazhiprivet 1 year ago
A storm across Europe it seems
CredoCatholicJournal 1 year ago
A possible future of Greece /watch?v=9loPiyKm-z8
It is planned ahead, see the proof, but it not will not have the same ending. Soon the civilians will pick up their weapons and not the flags. The prime minister's head will be for sell on ebay
globalzombietion 1 year ago
Annuit coeptis is a house of cards that will be brought down by infowars, peaceful civil disobedience and Unity.
neo19158 1 year ago 3
@neo19158 Greece says Hi.
graphattic 1 year ago
Get your poncho's tere is a shit storm comming.
SurvivalWithBushcraf 1 year ago
Will the cuts in public spending include riot gear?
GorgonLuvs8008135 1 year ago
this is how the IMF and the NWO creates terrorists!!! now are we going to start to understand whats going on in the middle east?
wdcsucks1 1 year ago 3
this is not a bailout, this is a sell out to the IMF, the global government and the NWO (New World Order)!!!
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screwopenborders 1 year ago
USA will see this kind of stuff soon
Floridaprepper 1 year ago 34
@Floridaprepper I doubt it lol, Americans well be watching some entertainment shit on TV getting fat.
krum369 1 year ago 30
@krum369 unfortunately you are correct
turkeyjurker 1 year ago
@krum369 i couldn't agree more our government passed a similar bailout for 400 billion dollars of OUR money and nobody did shit. I'm an American and yes there are a lot of fat ass, lazy people in this country but we have even more hard working people, good people that need to stand up like the Greeks did.
kormoski420 1 year ago 3
@krum369 jelous?
captainpegs07 1 year ago
@captainpegs07 Why do you guys think people are always jelous of America and Americans? pretty stupid way of thinking, I myself am an American but I can see whats become of America.
krum369 1 year ago 2
@krum369 YOU are a pussy. When the kids told you this in highschool, they were correct. When they teased you and made you cry, you deserved it. YOU can be a loser your whole life and noone cares because your world is so small it only effects yourself.
captainpegs07 1 year ago
@captainpegs07 I was a big fucker in high school, no one would dare call me a pussy lol, good response thou, has nothing to do with the subject, go back to watching American Idol, it'll keep you happy and suck your time up.
krum369 1 year ago
@krum369 i agree with you all over Yt they are talking big, whilst eating junk food and watching TV.
dikkydoo1 1 year ago
@krum369 i 2nd that :)
Damienm7 1 year ago
@krum369 -- That is just like the illuminati stuff, to "tell us the truth" to keep us unconfident. There will be this in america, like every other country when the sleeping beast is fucked to the point where it cant ignore the anal-pain any longer.
Ben1607 1 year ago