Einstein, Dirac, Godel, Selberg, Harish-Chandra in Princeton

[Ralph6485]

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[cenedywong]

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[tusi1390]

Einstein=ghost

[human2011able]

Amazing!

[juik104]

omg I would of sold my soul to be able to meet Selberg, Einstein, and Godel....

[naishjam]

@juik104 Why? They're just men who happened to have some interesting ideas.

[pizza1512]

MADE MY DAY! XD

[widebody123]

Wow. What a treat. Thanks for posting. Paul Dirac is my personal hero.

[leonardodavinci107]

How wonderful !

[deyomash]

einstein really introduced the "weird ass looking professor look" haha:P

great brain :)

[andreirocks1992]

He's so fluffy!

[Psenas]

This is amazing, so many powerful minds concentrated in one institute working together on revealing natures secrets. Oh how would i love to be there at that time.

[MisterSimnock]

I think they are all talking about how much they like cheese.

[josyula547]

amazing video thanks!

but .. what would they be talking about??

[Xytos]

einstine was the loner of the bunch, he looked the worst, but how does he compare to those greats in intellect and achievements?

[floopsie666]

@Xytos He came up with a theory that was so beautiful that no postulate of quantum mechanics can match.

[majestic93]

@Xytos Einstein was not the greatest loner of the bunch. He had a good sense of humor and was relatively social (pun intended).

The definite loner of these guys is Dirac. He loved solitude and rarely said more than a few words. As far as intellect and scientific achievement goes, I'd say Einstein ranks only slightly above Dirac. I'm not too familiar with the mathematical achievements of Godel, Selberg and Erdos, but they are nonetheless great men.

A very nice video indeed.

[Caporacolo]

@majestic93 however, i'm familiar with their achievements. Selberg achieved one of the most important theorems in number theory, the same Erdos, but independently. Godel revolutioned the way how mathematics was seen till the first period of '900. His theorems were the most argued thing in the mid '900.

Actually, they are 3 giants in mathematics.

[naishjam]

@Xytos Einstein had a fundamental limitation - his emotional commitment to specific ideas. It's a dangerous thing in science. While his initial papers on Brownian motion, energy-mass equivalence, relativity and gravity were undoubtedly important, the Einsteinian worldview had limitations. Rather than accept these limitations and refine his worldview as new theories emerged that could better explain observation, Einstein stuck dogmatically to his increasingly outdated views.

[x1x2x3ct]

@naishjam who the fuck is einstein anyway

[bvssvni]

@naishjam Einstein didn't liked quantum mechanics because of it's non-trivial properties, not because he had a dogmatic worldview. You make pictures of what you think Einstein was in your head and then you publish it as fact. Despite the fact you didn't lived at the same time as Einstein, and don't understand all the shit Einstein went through.

[naishjam]

@bvssvni Firstly, I have not "published" anything on here. Comments on youtube hardly count as a "publication". Secondly, I've claimed nothing as an irrefutable fact, rather advanced an argument. If you read everything as fact unless expressly stated otherwise, then I would imagine you experience some fairly significant difficulties in life. Thirdly, how do you know that I don't understand the "shit" Einstein went through? How do you know anything at all about my qualifications?

[naishjam]

@bvssvni Fourth, "you make pictures of what you think Einstein was in your head" - yes, and so do you. This is an inescapable element of human thought. Now, to the main point - these preliminaries aside. Agreed, he didn't like the "non-trivial properties" of QM, but science is not about liking something or not liking something. It's about approaching evidence, facts, theories, explanations, hypotheses with an open mind and without prejudice.

[naishjam]

@bvssvni Einstein made fundamental commitments to certain principles that he insisted could not be false (such as his belief that the Universe must be comprehensible in simple and elegant terms) and it is from these principles that his rejection of QM flowed, even as the scientific community came on mass to be swayed by the arguments in favour of QM. Make no mistake, Einstein was part of the majority when QM first appeared - the majority, however, was swayed over years in the other direction.

[naishjam]

@bvssvni As for the "shit" Einstein went through, any academic goes through "shit" during their career. People disagree, often forcefully, but it's rarely personal. The fact that someone goes "through shit" should have no bearing on our attitude towards their ideas. Finally, here's one irrefutable fact: Einstein got it wrong. He couldn't accept QM and he couldn't explain phenomena which QM can. If Einstein had prevailed, and QM had been rejected, it would have been a major setback to physics..

[bvssvni]

@naishjam His personal beliefs are one thing, but the published criticism he did of QM is opposite from posing a danger, it was necessary. You can't go back in time and tell how QM was correct, because at that time different views were natural, with Einstein as one pole. His colleges in Germany betrayed his people. Yet the first thing his theory was used for, was to kill people. Whatever you think about Einstein, he may be trying to slow down QM to not make more weapons. We don't know.

[happyman]

i think i can lipread what they're talking about...

[doglickman]

I think this video in incorrectly labeled. I believe the man labeled as Godel is actually Abe Gelbart, my mother's first cousin.

[jimmyshitbags]

im not sure whether this video supports my hypothesis that mental capacity for physics is inversely proportional to separation of trousers and armpit.

[TheMeansardine]

i wonder what they're talking about  O_O

[HylanthianPrincess]

Alte Selberg is my grand grand grand father and i am Renate Selberg.Honestly,you can Google me!

[7867088]

@HylanthianPrincess are you study analytic number theory and sieves? :-)

[TheImmigrantsong]

Those guys knew really a lot, but non of them knew how great they really are to us .

[paulocabf]

HOLY SHIT

einstein looks like a fucking bizarr ghost

AMAZING VIDEO!

[Tibulinnuke]

My name is Renate Selberg! OMG cool:)

[Caporacolo]

Selberg and Erdos are some of my idols. However i really appreciate the other too, especially Siegel.

[willgonow]

if you want 2 see what "BRAINS", look like, check out these geezers, awesome.

[lyycurgus]

wow, 5 or 6 of the most brilliant people of all time, having a nice afternoon together...

[PhilAEG]

Excellent footage, thanks for sharing!

[nickharvey7]

These old films are Great !

In my video The Paradox of Schrodingers Cat an artist view it is Time that is the Hidden Variable. Time has symmetry and geometry that can explain the paradoxes of Quantum Physics.

[karan571]

i cant hear anything

[moti4love]

lol

[addis11100]

this guys created probleme instead of solution to the world problems.

[WeAreTheRobots]

you should read more

[weweallthewayhome]

this is one of those "half full\half empty" things. you say it caused problems, i say it openend doors ;D

[addis11100]

well yes they opened doors but others used it for bad way too

[shahinarya]

I agree with the other person's comment that YOU DO NOT HAVE A IDEA what you are talking about...

[ruidias123]

You have no idea about what are you saying

[ClamCrunchy]

Is that von Neumann at 1:42 to 2:08?

[simondirac]

This is my great-grandfather! you should all be Jalous!

[TheXylophone123]

Why? They were his achievements, not yours. And I'm not jealous of Dirac either. Jealousy is the preserve of those with low self-esteem.

[Autumn2487]

Well said. hugs

[drekecdrekecadrekecu]

prescious people. Real diamonds. They should run politics, not just science ;

[victorlimaperu]

UNA PENA NO PODER OIRLOS

[Nanumir]

a congregation of incredible minds caught on tape wow

[612mike612]

Unbelievable footage.

Also, reminds me of the movie 'I.Q.'

"I threw Godel's cane up there to get down my chair!"

[juli2295]

who was godel, just wondering

[turtlens]

Godel was a logician who proved that mathematics requires faith. I.e. there will always be unprovable but true mathematical propositions. He also proved the consistency of the Cantor continuum hypothesis.

[jhip87]

Godel proved that `mathematics requires faith,' eh? I won't respond in detail, but this is simply off the mark. One of the things that Godel proved is that, in the arithmetic fragment of some consistent, axiomatized system, there is some sentence that is neither provable nor refutable; that's all it means for a system to be `incomplete.' I recommend, if you're interested in these issues, to take a look at Torkel Franzen's ``Godel's Theorem: An Incomplete Guide to Its Uses and Abuses.''

[mbcestmoi]

@jhip87 Perhaps the remark about faith was a reference to Godel's avowed Platonic convictions. For Godel, mathematical objects and concepts were real and not merely free inventions of the human mind. What I always find contradictory, but in a beautiful way, is that Godel who demonstrated the limits of the efficacy of formal systems based upon axioms in mathematics, then attempted to secure an axiomatic basis for metaphysics.

[BoxOfAdam]

@jhip87 Certainly. If it can't be proven, then we 'know' it to be true as much as we believe it to be.

[pikiwiki]

read A World Without Time, by Palle Yourgrau. It's about Godel and Einstein. Perhaps the most innovative, informative book I've ever read. And I was a lit major.

[simondirac]

Paul Dirac is my great-grandfather!! NO SHIT!!!!

[prashantparikh]

Yes, and he would have been very proud to hear your language

[pikiwiki]

Shit!! No Shit!!

[TiaSaysSo]

Too much Brainpower in this one video.

[ghodium]

godel's accomplishment is hard for society to recognise, he may get true recognition one day... is true that bertrand russell expressed a 'so what' reaction, but godel proved it marvelously

[pikiwiki]

russel dissed cantor

[alwaritzmi]

Increíble, aparecen Gödel y Einstein juntos...sensacional. Jamás se volverá a repetir.

[H2O0O2H]

The Einstein was instinct. This is not the learning. This born.

[psychoanalyst]

this is real? wow..

[Xytose]

u mean gordel?

[ghodium]

it's godel

[chocojian]

it's gödel

[ghodium]

\ö/ V /\

[cropsy2008]

trailblazers the lot of them,great video.

[bornfree72]

What I would give to just go back in time, and watch from the corner of a tree; these giants roaming the hallowed grounds of science!

[mrlmchoylifut]

I feel you.

[bornfree72]

Thank you.

[pikiwiki]

wow, like, are you a poet or something?

[bornfree72]

I am not; but these gentlemen are...poets that find out the symmetries of our universe and write those lyrics down in another language - math.

[internet12311]

is that great indian Harish Chandra in this Video

[edgaritoaqui]

Rare footage! it is the first time i see it. Great! keep posting rare films of Einstein.

[ferryqueen2008]

thanksssss

[sura0071]

Great work guy, and I very happy to see my favorite, Albert Einstein to see on this.

I thank you

A Sri Lankan

[camilus23]

this video is amazing, to see Selberg, Godel, Einstein, Dirac, and Erdos all in the same video is fascinating. All were intellectual giants.

[camilus23]

this video is amazing, to see Selberg, Godel, Einstein, Dirac, and Erdos all in the same video is fascinating. All were intellectual giants.

[camilus23]

this video is amazing, to see Selberg, Godel, Einstein, Dirac, and Erdos all in the same video is fascinating. All were intellectual giants.

[chingistodd]

The building in the background, Fuld Hall, is essentially the same today, and most architecture echoes its 19340ish theme, although library (L.) and Simyoni (R.) are there now. I learned there, among other things, to appreciate afternoon tea (3:00 pm), a ritual I still carry with me throughout the world. I can recommend the biscuits too when they have them at events.

Professor Gödel was so elusive(& anorectic), doubtless he ate little in the great room there just behind the people in the film!

[harbach]

Afternoon tea  :)

[mozart20dlubos]

This is intruiging, I'd never seen a video of kurt godel till now.

[lumajs]

Wow, it's a complete coincidence. I was just browsing through the Godel YouTube videos because of a blog article written for the 30th anniversary of his death today.

And what I see: Mozart20dlubos, the famous poster of the Tom and Jerry video! ;-) The world is small.

Do you know that Mozart died on Dec 5th, the same day when the 2nd part of your nickname was born? ;-)