I didn't think that 23 seconds of video could piss me off so much. "He wasn't kidding." That little clip of the crystal ball at the end merely shows your own stupidity. Go back to doing what you do best: Clear Eyes commercials.
I'm a Darwinist and would prefer someone else other than Ruse as one of our representatives.
Only a scientist would be allowed to be such a fashion disaster and that fugtard beard and annoying voice and size 50 jeans is more like evolutionary reversal.
This guy needs to evolve out of KrispyKreme and onto an elliptical.
Yeah on the backs of crystals. That's way more believable than God. Where'd the crystals come from? Where'd the particles come from that collided together? In this world everything has to start somewhere. That's the rules we live by. So you can't explain how the earth and galaxy got it's start. So maybe one day, when this life is passed, and we come to a new understanding, there's a God that doesn't go by our rules. The bible says he was, is, and always will be. That's what I'll believe
Yeah, on the backs of crystals -- try watching more than a 25-second vid. or reading about it and you might understand it's not a crazy as it sounds. You know, research. Believing that a quark popped into existence is much easier to believe than an omnipotent being -- the most inconceivably complex thing imaginable -- just came into existence, or always existed. Yeah, believe that. YOU can't explain how Earth and the galaxy got its start, so try looking into cosmology instead of being a lazy-ass
There are thousands of PhD's who don't buy into the crystal hitch hiking cell hypothesis either. According to you they're stupid. That's the problem with the Darwinism "believe it or else" mentality, if you have a different belief you are labeled as ignorant or stupid. We'll see who gets the last laugh.
I wasn't talking about the crystal hypothesis I was talking about the idea of God creating the world, so please attempt to try and put words in my mouth:)
This sounds like one of those arguments that boils down to "I can't defend my beliefs scientifically so i'll just say they're being unfair".
And by the way, read your last sentence again and maybe you'll realise who it is that has the "believe it or else" mentality.
lol Wait... You mean like the creationist's viewpoint of "believe it or go to hell"? Yes... Very similar indeed. Wonder why. Both founded by humans perhaps?
No... He was starting to explain one hypothesis for abiogenesis, which can not (by definition) start with ready-made cells. My point is that you obviously can't gain any kind of understanding of his hypothesis from this clip. Thanks for proving me right.
all this hair-brained mess like crystals, panspermia and the like is talked about with straight faces by scientists, but mention God like say, Newton, Kepler, Boyle, Copernicus, Galileo, etc etc etc....., and everyone freaks out.
Lemme take a wild guess you've never studied ANY of the scientific phenomena disussed in this film have you? God has no place in scietific dscussinos because it is by definitio supernatural, meaning outside the realm that science is designed to measure. We no longer live in times when the supernaural and the natural were poorly defined magersterias like those older thinkers did.
Ruse is a philosopher, not an evolutionary biologist nor a researcher or expert in abiogenesis. Why is Stein asking him about abiogenesis? And despite this, Ruse is correct...yet gets ridicule from Stein's film. How...surprising. :/
If you would like to go thru the blatently inaccuate or misleading or outright lsit of lies tis film shamelessly perpetrates, I'd be happy to. Sorry if your theology doesn't fit very well with the scientific facts surrounding you. The ppl wh made this film can't even defend it when you put them on the spot. That should tell you something.
If this is the level of discourse one can expect from Stein and company, how can anyone take them seriously? There is nothing inherently risible about referring to crystals serving as a lattice for structure. Schrodinger memorably predicted that information would be stored on an 'aperiodic crystal', and in point of fact DNA's structure was elucidated through X-ray crystallography. It's crystal-clear to me that 'Expelled' is a mockery of science.
Creationists should be careful what they wish for. The worst thing that could happen to religion is for mainstream science to take it seriously, and thus examine it publically, openly, and critically and hold it liable for credible evidence like any other scientific theory. In science bad ideas are thrown out, unlike religion which holds on to every claim, regardless of evidence.
"Any solid material whose atoms are arranged in a definite pattern and whose surface regularity reflects its internal symmetry.
Each of a crystal's millions of individual structural units (unit cells) contains all the substance's atoms, molecules, or ions in the same proportions as in its chemical formula (see formula weight). The cells are repeated in all directions to form a geometric pattern, manifested [more]"
Hmm, so you mean its got nothing to do with magic crystal balls?! This film is for total fuckwits, it unashamedly massages their fuckwitted beliefs and that crystal ball (humour?) bit just made me grimace with pity/loathing/incredulity/disgust. Not good!
Does it upset you to see someone point out that the depiction of scientific theories and concepts in this film are grossly dishonest and misleading? Because guess what, the film is a propaganda piece. Get a scientific education and maybe you can grasp some of these concepts.
Steel toe boot to Ben Stein's face.
dpaanlka 8 months ago
I didn't think that 23 seconds of video could piss me off so much. "He wasn't kidding." That little clip of the crystal ball at the end merely shows your own stupidity. Go back to doing what you do best: Clear Eyes commercials.
imanselmo 1 year ago 2
This guy is an ass
I'm a Darwinist and would prefer someone else other than Ruse as one of our representatives.
Only a scientist would be allowed to be such a fashion disaster and that fugtard beard and annoying voice and size 50 jeans is more like evolutionary reversal.
This guy needs to evolve out of KrispyKreme and onto an elliptical.
SeymourButtz99 1 year ago
Why can't we just say I DON'T KNOW (yet)???
sgreen71778 1 year ago
Yeah on the backs of crystals. That's way more believable than God. Where'd the crystals come from? Where'd the particles come from that collided together? In this world everything has to start somewhere. That's the rules we live by. So you can't explain how the earth and galaxy got it's start. So maybe one day, when this life is passed, and we come to a new understanding, there's a God that doesn't go by our rules. The bible says he was, is, and always will be. That's what I'll believe
wade0713 2 years ago
Yeah, on the backs of crystals -- try watching more than a 25-second vid. or reading about it and you might understand it's not a crazy as it sounds. You know, research. Believing that a quark popped into existence is much easier to believe than an omnipotent being -- the most inconceivably complex thing imaginable -- just came into existence, or always existed. Yeah, believe that. YOU can't explain how Earth and the galaxy got its start, so try looking into cosmology instead of being a lazy-ass
Boy192 2 years ago 2
@wade0713 LOL*MAYBE* key word
starlogic99 1 year ago 2
And they laugh at the thought of a God creating this world yet accept hitch hiking cells on the backs of magic crystals.
1pt21jigawatt 2 years ago
Most intelligent people don't laugh at that.
But they may laugh at belief without evidence, and who's to say they don't have reason to?
hellohiuhu 2 years ago
"Most intelligent people don't laugh at that"
There are thousands of PhD's who don't buy into the crystal hitch hiking cell hypothesis either. According to you they're stupid. That's the problem with the Darwinism "believe it or else" mentality, if you have a different belief you are labeled as ignorant or stupid. We'll see who gets the last laugh.
1pt21jigawatt 2 years ago
I wasn't talking about the crystal hypothesis I was talking about the idea of God creating the world, so please attempt to try and put words in my mouth:)
This sounds like one of those arguments that boils down to "I can't defend my beliefs scientifically so i'll just say they're being unfair".
And by the way, read your last sentence again and maybe you'll realise who it is that has the "believe it or else" mentality.
hellohiuhu 2 years ago
lol Wait... You mean like the creationist's viewpoint of "believe it or go to hell"? Yes... Very similar indeed. Wonder why. Both founded by humans perhaps?
bantekiatgmaildotcom 2 years ago
He was using metaphors, you moron!
The vile cunt (presenter) wouldn't even let him finish what he was saying.
Why doesn't this idiot also laugh at the fact that he came from a piece of slime - i.e. a sperm & egg cell!
The 'sperm hitches a ride on even more slime in the form of various fluids and passes along the main highway, namely the cervix etc, etc.
Notice the use of metaphors here? Is there any one here that doesn't even believe in this?
Any flat earth believers here?
antag0nismo 2 years ago
Someone's been doing too much magic cyrstal.
1pt21jigawatt 2 years ago
Well it's not like some unfair editing was practiced here or anything.
Leehofooks 2 years ago 2
dude its beyond editing......
its a hypothesis that he supports regardless of editing
samkim1111 1 year ago
I'm sure there's more to his hypothesis than this few seconds from Stein's pseudodocumentary.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
obviously theres more but cells on the backs of crystals is fundamentally what hes arguing for....
the point is that editing is irrelevant
samkim1111 1 year ago
"Cells on the backs of crystals."
No... He was starting to explain one hypothesis for abiogenesis, which can not (by definition) start with ready-made cells. My point is that you obviously can't gain any kind of understanding of his hypothesis from this clip. Thanks for proving me right.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
Nice. He is oversimplifying it.
internetaccount122 3 years ago
too funny.
all this hair-brained mess like crystals, panspermia and the like is talked about with straight faces by scientists, but mention God like say, Newton, Kepler, Boyle, Copernicus, Galileo, etc etc etc....., and everyone freaks out.
modern day heresy.
the movie is SPOT ON.
condorito29 3 years ago
Lemme take a wild guess you've never studied ANY of the scientific phenomena disussed in this film have you? God has no place in scietific dscussinos because it is by definitio supernatural, meaning outside the realm that science is designed to measure. We no longer live in times when the supernaural and the natural were poorly defined magersterias like those older thinkers did.
TavishHill 3 years ago
Science being outside of God does NOT mean that God is outside of Science.
RebelRay 2 years ago
I dont get it.
TheLastKing4 3 years ago
Ruse is an idiot. He should shave that beaver off his face.
19PHS74 3 years ago
Ruse is a philosopher, not an evolutionary biologist nor a researcher or expert in abiogenesis. Why is Stein asking him about abiogenesis? And despite this, Ruse is correct...yet gets ridicule from Stein's film. How...surprising. :/
TavishHill 3 years ago
ur an idiot
flipass1 3 years ago
If you would like to go thru the blatently inaccuate or misleading or outright lsit of lies tis film shamelessly perpetrates, I'd be happy to. Sorry if your theology doesn't fit very well with the scientific facts surrounding you. The ppl wh made this film can't even defend it when you put them on the spot. That should tell you something.
TavishHill 3 years ago 2
If this is the level of discourse one can expect from Stein and company, how can anyone take them seriously? There is nothing inherently risible about referring to crystals serving as a lattice for structure. Schrodinger memorably predicted that information would be stored on an 'aperiodic crystal', and in point of fact DNA's structure was elucidated through X-ray crystallography. It's crystal-clear to me that 'Expelled' is a mockery of science.
ScottHatfield2008 3 years ago
rofl
magician evillotioists
HighFlyingDutchman 3 years ago
Creationists should be careful what they wish for. The worst thing that could happen to religion is for mainstream science to take it seriously, and thus examine it publically, openly, and critically and hold it liable for credible evidence like any other scientific theory. In science bad ideas are thrown out, unlike religion which holds on to every claim, regardless of evidence.
Brainmold 3 years ago
scientific definition of "crystal":
"Any solid material whose atoms are arranged in a definite pattern and whose surface regularity reflects its internal symmetry.
Each of a crystal's millions of individual structural units (unit cells) contains all the substance's atoms, molecules, or ions in the same proportions as in its chemical formula (see formula weight). The cells are repeated in all directions to form a geometric pattern, manifested [more]"
-Encyclopedia Britannica
samlowry1971 3 years ago 5
Hmm, so you mean its got nothing to do with magic crystal balls?! This film is for total fuckwits, it unashamedly massages their fuckwitted beliefs and that crystal ball (humour?) bit just made me grimace with pity/loathing/incredulity/disgust. Not good!
DuctTapeMyFace 3 years ago
it makes u so much more credible when u use "fuckwit"
i will name u mr. genius on youtube
..dumbass
flipass1 3 years ago
Does it upset you to see someone point out that the depiction of scientific theories and concepts in this film are grossly dishonest and misleading? Because guess what, the film is a propaganda piece. Get a scientific education and maybe you can grasp some of these concepts.
TavishHill 3 years ago 4
credibility is not something i seek from the credulous.
DuctTapeMyFace 3 years ago