Fallen Ones, The Watchers, and NEPHILIM - The Book of Enoch, and also in the Holy Bible- Fallen Angels were their gods, and now they pose as aliens today- Top UFOLOGISTS, and several thousands of abductees, after a lifetime of research, have come to the solid conclusion, that these beings aren't extraterrestrial, but are INTER-DIMENSIONAL, and paranormal in nature, and are actually Fallen Ones, NEPHILIM Spirits, a.k.a DEMONS. The Illuminati have FULLY KNOWN WHO, and WHAT these beings are for
Gutian dynasty persisted until the end of the 17th century BC.While Old Babylonian sources give the region between the Tigris and the Zagros Mountains as the home of the Gutians, these people probably also lived on the middle Euphrates during the 3rd millennium. According to the Sumerian king list,The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back,
The Tower (s) of Babel was the Great Pyramid (Really) & is older than 400,000 years & literally predates the real Great Flood when the 1000 mile water vapour canopy surrounding earth & sheilding it from high energy particles collapsed & Nibiru (Whereever it is) was the original Prison Planet in an orbit next to an immanent supernova (Our hydrogen depleted iron-rich star) & our earth is Eden or the Garden & the gods had (Have) space travel but don't have star travel so look again to Christ...
To me it is absolutely indifferent, what barbarians came to ask to Sumer of wisdom and knowledge. Exactly as to me all equally - there were there ancestors of Kurds or weren't, an essence of the matter not in it: the Problem that these barbarians didn't concern neither Sumer, nor to sumerian to language.
Dear moderators, repeatedly I ask you: What relation was to Sumerian of protobarbarians KUTI, who came to ask wisdom to sumerian, among many other barbarians-elamits, Hindus, Semites ?
@hunnoturk The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty,liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke.The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back&aSumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians,Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty(2350-2150 BC)marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia, a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians2000BC
@hunnoturk the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name "Kurti/Kurd" seem likely to be of Aryan origin *one of the first, in fact, in Kurdistan* instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today and including the Khardukhoi and Guti.(IzadI1993)The name Judikan is clearly merely a variant of "Jat", further cementing the thesis of a close relationship between the Jats& Kurds
@hunnoturk Gudea (ca 2142-2122 BC)ensi of Lagash, inaugurated the Sumerian renaissance & ruled Ur on behalf of the Gutian kings.His name itself indicates he was a Gutian.Such a view is not far-fetched,for personal names often indicate the provenance of its bearer.Thus,the personal name Francais is common amongst French-men & von Dachau in Germany indicate ancestry from Dachau.Thus,Gudea can be ,while identified as a Gutian based on his name. Moreover,if he was not a Gutian,
@hunnoturk In Sumerian mythology, Kur was primarily a mountain or mountains, and usually referred to the Zagros mountains to the east of Sumer. It is possible that this name for the area coincides with the still present modern day Kurds who inhabit much of the Zagros mountains. The cuneiform for "kur" was written ideographically with the cuneiform sign 𒆳, a pictograph of a mountain.It can also mean "foreign land". Although the word for earth was Ki, Kur came to also mean land, and Sumer itself,
@goran21715 <<<<this guy is copying these all from wikipedia he couldnt even understand english because he couldnt even make one meaningfull sentence in english.according to ludinguirra Gutis (probably kurds) were uncivilised mountaineers and they ruined and caused collapse of Sumer country.(memories of Ludingirra ,original Sumerians writings) Ludingirra also says ''we probably came from north east'' (middle asia)
@esraretinancient In fact, ancient Gutium appears to have been merely another name for modern Kurdistan, a region inhabited by the Iranic-speaking Kurds today. In this regard, the great savant Archibald H. Sayce holds that the name of Kurdistan represents a mere derivation of 'Gutium': "Who "Tidal king of Goyyim" may have been we cannot tell. Sir Henry Rawlinson has proposed to see in Goyyim a transformation of Gutium, the name by which Kurdistan was called in early Babylonia.
Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti': "The land of Guti answers in substance, and perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan.
@esraretin Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti,the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu,Lulu, Kassite,& Mittani.Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha."
@esraretin The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty,liberating the Sumerian from the Semitic yokeThe attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress theSumerian language were rolled back,&a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians,Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty 2350-2150 BC marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia,a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians 2000 BC
@esraretin The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule. Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes, marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia, a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians 2000 BC
@esraretin a Gutian dynasty persisted until the end of the 17th century BC.especially on the victory inscription of Utu-hegal of Uruk (c. 2116-c. 2110). While Old Babylonian sources give the region between the Tigris and the Zagros Mountains as the home of the Gutians, these people probably also lived on the middle Euphrates during the 3rd millennium.According to the Sumerian king list, the Gutians held the "kingship" in southern Mesopotamia for about 150 years
@esraretin First mentioned in Elamite texts of the late 3rd millennium BC, they penetrated into Mesopotamia in the 2nd millennium, were repulsed by Hammurabi's son, but secured holdings within the Tigris-Euphrates valley on the northern frontiers of Babylonia and later established the second Babylonian dynasty. Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,
I have a question to moderators of a site: What relation posts of my opponents to video theme have???
I consider all their posts off-top.У my opponents there is NO argument against my decodings of sillabic tablets of Sumer.Insteed correct discussion at my opponents is one citations from OUT-OF-DATE sources. My decodings are ARTEFACTS, against which at my opponents there is stories about Kurds. But Kurds have no relation to Sumer.
@hunnoturk where your decodings to know how discode it and where your source,are you have any knowledge about ancient language and location language like arab and kurdish and chaldian,how artefacts and what mean it ,lmeant you like to say out of archeologiest and laungist evidance. real l like argue you for evry thing you like to say on basic of science and logic,the kurd perncipel element of mesopotamia since perhistoric to nowaday,l divsing you to cocentral your effoct on north of great wall
Really this mad haven't told about Cimmerians, about ONOGURs, KOTRYGURs, UTIGURs, (=HUNs=GUNs) undertaken an outcome from Mesopotamia and the Western Asia on open spaces of Eurasia, to the North Caucasus and to the Far East?
Poor, unfortunate, sick people are deprived elementary knowledge on stories of Mesopotamia. Exactly as they don't know that COME back of Far East GUNs have accepted Nestorian the Christianity version in АRMINIA in 3 century.
@hunnoturk HAHA foolish you need cilnic for mad you mix hun in 1 century with indo-eropean GUTI OR GOTHS whom was Zagros peoples they overthrow akkadian empire in 2212 bc & stay nowaday as kurd in region,foolish it not stories it history of mesopotamia appear you coming very leat to rewritting history to creator for your nomadic hun tribes whom dont leave for you any thing to depend on to know real who are you your facil mongols is evidace of you if you havent that featuer you bastard
Surprisingly as many to inadequate opponents on the Internet which ask one question behind another, at all without listening to opposite opinion. They are sick people? Most likely.
@hunnoturk Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan.The very name Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'Thus,Prof.Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi'or'Quradu,' with 'Guti':"The land of Guti answers in substance,&perhaps also in name,to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu,
This Goran simply idiot stupid and illiterate: On Sanskrit ARI = "Stranger", "Newcomer".Аryan gaplogroup R1a, R1a1=Turkic arien.
Iranians are not Aryans. At Iranians it is revealed gaplogroup I on 34 %. Iranians are wild paleoeuropien, without work tools, without arable tools, without the tamed draft animals and without the developed public institutes.
Iranians have admitted the fact of loan from Turkic language of 75 % of the glossary.
Lol... Turkic language in Iranian? You do know that the ''Turkish'' language today has 40% foreign words from which more than 12% is Persian? And you do know that Persian was a official language during the Ottoman Empire and now you're saying that there is 75% Turkic words in Iranian? Bullshit, ill tell you what. Everything about the turks EVERYTHING Music, intruments, culture it all comes from Iranians.
@hunnoturk you are simply idiot stupid and illiterate ( The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia.
@goran21715 You not simply idiot, illiterate and arrogant, you the idiot incapable to develop:Origin a point of Guns and Huns is Mesopotamia. The outcome of these Turkis has occurred on a boundary 3000-3200 years ago. Already 2800 years ago hunny-Huns were at limits of the Old Chinese Wall, to the south of the Great Wall on some hundreds km,near the HAN kingdom.
@hunnoturk haha you readed histioru updown ignorant,you real lose your ancestore ,foolish search in mongolia not here in mesopotamia,not GUN ,its GUTI (GUTIAN) OR GOTHS ca2100 BC same of those GUTI immigration to india they nown as JETE OR GUTI &same immigration to china holded same name and still there in reigion in same name, hey indo-european peoples not mongols or hun foolish go read web(glories of Gutian )& sane immigration to europe in same name GUTI OR GOTHS whom they destroyed hun
@hunnoturk Mazouri concurs with the identification of Kurds&Guti: Now historically,Kirkuk has been a Kurdish city.It is a part of Zagros highland which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes.In an article published its issue in1990, Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language,which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu,Kassite&mitanni
@hunnoturk Abundant evidence supporting the connection between Kurds and Gutians is further provided by toponyms in Kurdistan. In fact, the place-name Mt. Judi and the Kurdish clan of Judikanlu are fossil remnants of the awesome name left behind by the 'Guti', as a researcher notes, "For about two centuries (circa 2,200 to 2,000 BC) the Gutis gained the upper military hand over the Mesopotamian states. In an impressive show of force, they succeeded to annex Sumeria to their domain.
@goran21715 You prove the arguments only that at you doesn't suffice either formations, or a step, either ethics of dialogue, or sincere abilities to dialogue. You are simply BARBARIAN.
@hunnoturk Lulubi were a group of tribes during the 3rd millennium BC,from a region known as Lulubum,now the Sharazor plain of in the Zagros Mountains,identificity Luluban with the modern Kurdish town,Halabja.
The early Sumerian legend "Lugalbanda and the Anzud Bird",set in the reign of Enmerkar of Uruk,alludes to the mountains of Lulubi"as being where the character of Lugalbanda encounters the gigantic Anzud bird while searching for the rest of Enmerkar's army en route to siege Aratta.
@hunnoturk the Kurdish clan of Judikan, inhabiting the heartland of the ancient Gutis in southeatern Kurdistan. The "Kardukhoi" are none other than the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin *one of the first, in fact,in Kurdistan instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today &including the Khardukhoi and Guti.(Izady 1993)
@hunnoturk Prominence of the Irano-Afghan Race in Mesopotamia since Sumerian Times
The Iranic or Irano-Afghan race has dominated the plains of Mesopotamia since Sumerian times, as the learned American anthropologist Prof. C. S. Coon notes,
"The Irano-Afghan race, prominent since Sumerian times in Mesopotamia, is the chief population element in the entire highland territory from the western border of Iran to northern India. " (Coon 1939, The Irano-Afghan Race l am sure you dont read such info
@hunnoturk Prof. Derakshani, in a paper published in a prestigious Iranian journal,summarises the history of the Gutians thus476. Gutium (Qutium),situated in Western Iran,is mentioned already in the presargonic period in a document (ca.2500B.C)The fact that the Guti belonged to the proto-Iranians,is confirmed by their language,which is attested mainly by personal names.According to them the Guti spoke an Indo-European language,which was close to theTokharianThe relation between the Tokharn&aryan
@hunnoturk Gutian. Describing Gudea's achievements,a standard history work notes During this period when the North was being ruled by the Gutians, Lagash flourished,particularly during the reign of Gudea,who is well-known today through the many statues of him Prof.Cyrus Gordon notes further achievements of ancient Sumer:The greatness of Sumer can be measured in other spheres,too.Its sexagesimal system has reached us via the exact sciences.Our astronomers still divide the circle into 360degrees
UZI, ancient city in N.E. Iraq at the present site of Yorghan Tepe, about (16 km.) S.W. of Arrapha, modern Kirkuk, near the foothills of southern Kurdistan. Excavations were begun at Nuzi in 1925 by E. Chiera and were continued through 1931 under the joint auspices of the American School of Oriental Research, Harvard University, and the University Museum of Pennsylvania. The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times. During the middle of the third millennium B.C.E.
Lulubi were a group of tribes during the 3rd millennium BC, from a region known as Lulubum, now the Sharazor plain of in the Zagros Mountains identified their city Luluban with the modern Kurdish town,Halabja.
The early Sumerian legend "Lugalbanda and the Anzud Bird"set in the reign of Enmerkar of Uruk, alludes to the "mountains of Lulubi" as being where the character of Lugalbanda encounters the gigantic Anzud bird while searching for the rest of Enmerkar's army en route to siege Aratta.
Before lodging on mountains ARATTA, sumerian chose this mountain as a suitable place of rescue from the Flood: ARU+TAU = "MOUNTAIN Approaching just right"!!!, "MOUNTAIN Having the suitable size"!!!.
@hunnoturk what relation aratta to tatar language ! they haven't any exsistance in reigion in that early time. all these name came from sumerian caly tablet, no one mention they was seach tatar language in sumerian ,from word (KUR) , its have many meaning in kurdish 1 earth , grave . land , court, ARATTA may they mean Ararat mountian or (ARY CHIA) Ary mountian, the border of aryan & semite in west was red sea and miderarrian sea & in east was india and mongolia to russian, read history tatar
@goran21715 Yes you, I see, have decently lagged behind in a historiography. The eurocentrism and its false messages are razed to the ground. Russian - not Slavs. Russian are ugro-finns, operated Turkis with Turkic gaplogroup R1a, R1b.
Tatars - lineal descendants Sumer. For special slowcoaches there is a references on my deciperings:2012forum.
Present mongols are NOT MEN-GOLs.They are Tunguses.Ancient MEN-KOLs are kipchakian- turks=ALAN-KYWA.
@hunnoturk The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia. .firsrt nemtion of turk
@goran21715 To me the reasons on which you are mistaken are absolutely indifferent. To me "on a violet drum" all your pseudo-historical calculations. In burial places huns and gunns in the Far East and in steppes of Mongolia find only one gaplogroup - R1b from Forward Asia and Meslpotamia.
@goran21715 To me the reasons on which you are mistaken are absolutely indifferent. To me "on a violet drum" all your pseudo-historical calculations. In burial places huns and gunns in the Far East and in steppes of Mongolia find only one gaplogroup - R1b from Forward Asia and Meslpotamia.
@hunnoturk The population ancestral to the Turkiclanguage speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sourcesThe Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu,included in the ShiJi,traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestorChunwei,a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty
when you talk about sumerian,we talking in early bronz age not 11AD century
@hunnoturk early syllabic system pof sumerian belong to 4100bc-3800bc, so what relation of subject to tatar whom they appear in midde east after mongols invasion, Arattu city which mention in sumerian tale, Here was reporting as it would be for more than 3,000 years, might been in 3500 bc,so what you meant in date 6500-7000 and what you want to reach from that,
@hunnoturk you must study history,the mongols or tatar or turkic havent any esistance in midde east befor 11 century,you unable to decoding clay sumerian tablet &understand it if you find word accident have meaning it not mean they was there,all scholars not mention that the mongolian was lived in sumer. history aryan streached from red sea and middeterrrian see to india & mongolian & russia in the east,the semite invasion aryan land when they cross the red sea now you came to say they was tatar
@goran21715 Don't litter our site with the out-of-date, false and denied theories. Learn REAL history, instead of thought up by eurocentrists.
Once again I repeat: don't litter dear site with nonsenses.Not to get to such silly situations to you it is necessary to read all my articles and decodings is to begin with.
In the second it is necessary for you to read all historical works of the Kazan historical school, the present school not to look the idiot.
@hunnoturk it mean you try to rewritting history in you mood and cencel all that excavation by acgeologist and historian and scientist to to say sumerian was tatar , even foolish cant accept this thought , where you live and which type of history you study l am kud and indgenious in mesopotamia even befor ASSyrian and we have clay tablets writ in aryan language just its kurdish as wew use in our language ,here aryan land no you ore any one can change the fact by write same fake write in history
@hunnoturk it mean you try to rewritting history in you mood and cencel all that excavation by acgeologist and historian and scientist to to say sumerian was tatar,even foolish cant accept this thought , where you live and which type of history you study l am kud and indgenious in mesopotamia even befor ASSyrian and we have clay tablets writ in aryan language just its kurdish as wew use in our language ,here aryan land no you ore any one can change the fact by write same fake write in history
@hunnoturk Hamazi or Khamazi (Sumerian: Ḫa-ma-ziki[1]) was an ancient kingdom or city-state of some importance that reached its peak ca. 2500-2400 BC. Its exact location is unknown, but is thought to have been located in the western Zagros mountains roughly between Elam and Assyria, possibly near Nuzi or modern Hamadan.
Hamazi first came to the attention of archaeologists with the discovery of a vase with an inscription in very archaic cuneiform commemorating the victory of Utug
@hunnoturk l dont mix akkadian with sumerian , l thought there were many thing hide about him and sargon of akkad
the sumerian tablet exsist and the scholares studies it and there were many many words is pure kudish and its peinicibale in kurdish language even the real name of sargon was (Shir Gwan) shir mean( lion) and Gwa meaning youth lion , and kur it mean land , grave area,birth land ,and mean deep to a zaggote its kudish and from it derive word zigorty mean single man and so on
@goran21715 Kurds - primordial Turkis. The name of the Kurdish people "KURD" in Turkic languages "Flight".Это means a word there is from кипчакского words "GURT" = "Family".Which there is from sumerian "GUR" = "Community", "Generality", "People".First governors of Kurds AHEMEN and CHiSH-PiSH = these are literary TATAR words and names.
Language at Kurds in various parts of Asia too is distinguished, but the TURKIC basis of Kurdish language is invariable only.
@hunnoturk foolish you so stupid and ignorant of all thing , kurd indeginous of mesopotamia and mongols invasion midde east in 11 century real you stupid and l thing you never reading two page of mesopotamia history , where you live in somaian desert or in Gubi desert ,l am sure you unable to undestand one word of kurdish , gur (kur) dont meaning community it mean land foolish, kurd or qurdi mention from earl sumerian and old babylion stupid like you invention and mix half 3millennuim with turk
@goran21715 Now in Tatarstan carry out the grandiose action on a blood test of medieval burial places of Mongols = (MEN-GOLs = "I'm Slave Supreme, on-Tatar).
90 % of burial places of Mongols have Mediterranean European gaplogroup.
@hunnoturk One of the clearest indicators that the powerful Gutians of Guti were members of the Iranian race is provided by the geographical location of ancient Guti which lies within the modern orbit of the distribution of IranoAryan languages.lnfact,ancient Guti appears to have been merely another name for modern Kurdistan,a region inhabited by the Iranicspeaking Kurds today.In this regard,the great savant Archbald H.Sayce holds that the name of Kurdistan represents a mere derivation of guti
@hunnoturk Guti (Kurdi ) that the very person who discovered the existence of the Gutian Dynasty, Prof. Scheil, noted this remarkable fact: "This national or tribal name of Guti, the name of "The Guti Troops (who) carried off the royalty" of the Mesopotamian empire by their conquest of Erech the imperial capital about 2495 BC, was recognized as obviously suggesting 'Goths' by Prof. Scheil, when he announced in 1911 his discovery of the Guti Dynasty in Mesopotamia,
@hunnoturk Guti (Kurdi ) that the very person who discovered the existence of the Gutian Dynasty, Prof. Scheil, noted this remarkable fact: "This national or tribal name of Guti, the name of "The Guti Troops (who) carried off the royalty" of the Mesopotamian empire by their conquest of Erech the imperial capital about 2495 BC, was recognized as obviously suggesting 'Goths' by Prof. Scheil, when he announced in 1911 his discovery of the Guti Dynasty in Mesopotamia,
@hunnoturk was ruling by chealdean&up mesopotamia by ASSyrian,are you thought there were tatarian in that time in mesopotamia?real you dont know what you talk about for your info tablet in sancharib labrary was stolen from babbylion its not assyrian,l readed about sumer&mesopotamia there weren't any maention of tatar or mongols or turkic,go read turkic immigration& him language to know real they didn't had any relation to aryan or sumerian l remember you hangarian descending from hun not turk
@hunnoturk was ruling by chealdean&up mesopotamia by ASSyrian,are you thought there were tatarian in that time in mesopotamia?real you dont know what you talk about for your info tablet in sancharib labrary was stolen from babbylion its not assyrian,l readed about sumer&mesopotamia there weren't any maention of tatar or mongols or turkic,go read turkic immigration& him language to know real they didn't had any relation to aryan or sumerian l remember you hangarian descending from hun not turk
@goran21715 Ridiculously to take a detached view as the opponent flounders in the false and out-of-date theories.
You it is not a pity to me. I warned you: to oppose me you should re-read all latest discoveries on Sumer language, on burial places of Huns in the Far East, by birth Huns at the first Emperors of China, by birth Huns at the first Pharaohs of Egypt. You don't hear me, and continue to CRY out on all U-Tube.
@hunnoturk it just aplecated to you,real you stupid,the2 handrad years ago there weren't mention of [itch mongols or tatar now you added new thing hear what stupid you live in fancifuless& illiusion.poor kurd exsist & idegenioues in kurdistan when you mongols wanderinf in Gubi desert like asian ass,kurdish languag find in clay tablet befor near 4000 years as we speak nowaday,its first aryan language excavation&for first time not in india but in kurdistan kurd have peom befor you ivasion mid east
@goran21715 Eventually, it is simply indecent so disrespectfully to continue to write the nonsense.
I in general have doubts that you the European.
You are capable to hear me? I hope this time you can hear me: Find and read my articles about Huns and Guns, find and read my articles about Mongols = MEN-GOLs (=I'm Slave Supreme).Find and read my decodings of the most ancient tablets, and cease to cry out ugly on all Universe.
@hunnoturk l am kurd not Etheopean what different if one Etheopean argue withb you about histopry , appear you like to fake history fro who is far in region, l repeated the ant mongols tribes livr on mesopotamia , and what you imagent and and thinking history is created by facifulness,you are mad and non netural man and you need to go to doctor. l dosen't need to read what written bby crasy man,you must reading hisory of mesopotamia from perhistory to invasion of mongols and fall of baghdad
Thank You very much for the video.... I am from Iran and ancient Iranians were also decendents of Summerians. I have see some of these amazing things from first hand. Please also visit 2012exposed.(om someone has just started a blog in there I thought it was interesting....
Iranians-Тegeranian on 34 % carriers Paleolithic y-DNA gaplogroup I.It means that the basic part of Iranians - the barbarians of ancient Europe who did not have neither cultural grain crops, nor instruments of labor, nor the developed public institutes.
I expected science and history of Sumer and mesopotamia, but what i found here in an expensively made documentary is just crap. Why can't we use our knowledge and money to improve knowledge instead of using it for misinformation and alien speculation? Damnit! I can't find half a dozen good documentaries about Sumer, but hundreds of these videos advocating crap of the second kind ;). Our priorities should change, really...
@MardasMan The eurocentrists who have invented a certain artificial design instead of real story are guilty of it. The eurocentrism is razed to the ground, as the pseudoscientific theory. Thanks historians and linguists of the USA.
I unsuccessfully searched for primary sources about Sumer in the USSR and in Russia during 23 y.3 year ago I have found these primary sources in the Internet. Long live the INTERNET!
Present, please all list of these historical schools.
And as present reviews of these historical schools of my works. I will discuss with them with all in private, and I will lay out to you all discussion.
@hunnoturk You know.....my name is Hellenistic.....Euripides if it says something to u....does it means something in your language(i'm just curious(idiots) )
If to clean silly Greek suffixes and the terminations distorting all words of ancient primary sources also yours not the ancient name is possible was to consider.
However, make it yourself, laziness Greek and so already on hearing at everything so what for I should spend the precious time for yours?
You have only words of a word and an inconsistent stream of words. Why you squeal and squall as a wounded pig?
Include the brains and cease to shout the big letters thes well I hear and I see.
You began to call the opponent and have become personal. It is assured your opuses will remove. Learn to communicate in a civilized way and with deep arguments.
Athena, Apollo,Gera,Zevs,Pan..or Talpan, Gorgona, Gerakl, and Tefra, Tuf etc...- All these words and many other "Ancient Greek" words have the Tatar etymology and are easily deciphered in the Tatar language.
Get accustomed, solving ethnos at Greeks - Turkis R1b and R1a.
R1a-Turkis Aryans from Altai, and R1b-Turkis Aryans from Mesopotamia!
@hunnoturk ΤΟΥΡΚΑΛΑ,,,go catch a chicken!...Apollo mean something in your barbaric language ..idiot?...Απόλλων (= from the verb απόλλυμι,=i destroy ,...AΘΗΝΑ=ATHENA=θεονόη= νου και διάνοια=MIND AND INTELLIGENCE...they mean something in your terrible language?ΖΕΥΣ ΤΟ ΔΙΟΣ=ΖΕΥΣΙΣ+GOD!...PAN=EVERYTHING!..THEY MEAN SOMETHING IN YOUR LANGUAGE AND NOT IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK LANGUAGE!...IDIOTS!..WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN?..NOBODY CAN TOUCH US WITH THEIR BULLLSHITS! GO TO SLEEP!
With all this evidence how can humans believe in any of the religious bullshit that they promote? Human beings are just primitive life forms that don't belong in the universe. Too primitive to be classified as a civilization, a mock hybridof pig apes and godly DNA, wrecking havoc on the Earth until the End of Days. May they all perish. Amen.
@thephosphatemine misinterpreted extraterrestrials as God. Does that mean "God" isn't real?... No, lol but the God that people speak of on Earth in the bibles etc, isn't the supreme being. Isn't the TRUE - SPIRIT God. Nor are the angles. Well, this is a possiblity anyway. =)
@thephosphatemine Ancient Astronaut theory is still a great one today. The only thing us humans can do is theorize, until our day comes. As for GOD, why do we talk as if he is a man?... Let alone, no one has ever seen God - EVER - nor will he ever come down as a human form, because God = GOD, he/she/it would never bring itself down to this form, even if that were the case, the power would be too strong, and Earth would be gone. This is another reason why I believe primitive man could have
@thephosphatemine it diff. They take a human figure, because that is what they seen! Then, they add wings to this figure to explain that this man has the ability of flight. See what I mean? Technology could/would have been supernatural to those who knew nothing of it. Let alone, if extraterrestrials come from the sky, down to Earth. In man's eyes, they were descending from Heaven to the Earth. And many times, the sound man heard was Thunder crashing. Listen to our modern rockets...
@thephosphatemine Evolution is happening everyday. You must understand this. Also, you believe in a supreme being, not the God man talks about these days. One misunderstanding people are having is that, extraterrestrials could have came down to Earth in man's primitive time, and primitive man didn't understand who or what they were, so they were Gods and Angels. Look at an angel for a sec, now if you were primitive man, you didn't have a word for spaceship or rocket, so they had to explain
@thephosphatemine Evolution is everywhere my friend. But, I also believe that man started in Africa. The whole thing about Sumer is the first "civilization" you know - ways of living, advanced technology, school systems, etc, etc etc...If man started in Africa, who's to say that extraterrestrials didn't come down in time, didn't like the imperfections of man, then manipulated his DNA? Or had other plans for man?... Stories can change over time when passed down generations through generations.
@thephosphatemine I agree with you... Which if you read my earliest post, I stated this. "and the Greek people got everything from an earlier civilization. (Sumer)"
@masterwatermage nixter is not wrong!...NIXTER KNOWS WHAT HE IS SAYING!....The ancient underwater city of PAVLOPETRI IN GREECE,the researchers now believe that the town could be 5,000-6,000 years old. This is at least 2,000 years older than any other known underwater cities....ALSO SESKLO GREECE IN Thessaly and parts of Macedonia (Greece). The oldest fragments researched at Sesklo place the civilization's development as far back as 6850 BC ! WICH IS MUCH OLDER THAN SUMER!
ALSO an handout photo provided by the Greek Culture Ministry shows an prehistorical stone wall. The ministry said Greek experts discovered the oldest stony wall of the country, blocking the entrance of a cavern for 23,000 years in Thessalia, in the north. THE MYTH THAT THE SUMER IS OLDER IS LONG GONE!...
@nixter888 Archeological findings show more settlements in Northern Greece, like Thessaly and Sesklo. Villages were found in Thessaly around 6500 BC while settlements in Sesklo started in 5500 BC. The inhabitants of these areas couldn't have been more than a hundred people. The houses were made of stone foundations with a roof made of a thick layer of clay and timber....ALSO IN SESKLO TABLETS WITH THE MOST ANCIENT GREEK LETTERS SINCE 7000 B.C,WERE FOUND!
Also from the depictions of the Centaurs of the neolithic years and the documentation of Homer and Xenophon on the equestrian faculty of Greeks, confirms the use of horses in Greece, prior to any other civilization. There also exists a boat compass from Cyprus 5 000 bc, which includes pictures of horsemen. In Chaldea (known today as this fictitious Sumer/Sumerian -- a false civilization propagated by globalists) where they did not have horses, chariots were only recognized from 2 600 bc .
Also found the Mesopithicus of Pentelikos, 9- million years old. and in Aliveri they found the semistanding Elladopithicus of also 9-10 million years. A bone of 5 million years was found in Ikaria and in Chalkidiki there also was found a plate for eating, 800 thousand years ago. IN TRIGLIA HALKIDIKIS THE ARCHANTHROPUS TRIGLIANESSIS WAS FOUND 11-12000000 YEARS OLD!..NOT OUT OF AFRICA!,..AT LIST NOT THE WHITE MAN!
N. Samson, a curator of the Prehistoric and Classical Antiquities Department, discovered shards of vases ("ostraka") with letters identical to the present Greek alphabet while excavating at the "Cyclop's Cave," on the deserted island of Yioura, near the inhabited island of Alonnissos, in the Northern Sporades island complex. These vases were dated to 5,500 to 6,000 B.C ,,HOW DOES THIS MAKE SUMER OLDER?...DISTORTION IS A CRIME!
ALSO WE HAVE INFORMATION FROM THE EGYPTIAN PRIESTS ,THAT ATHENS IT SELF IS 1000 YEARS OLDER THAN SAID EGYPT,BUT WAS EXISTING THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE WITH THE NAME KEKROPEA....THE EGYPTIAN PRIEST TELL US THAT ATHENS AS ATHENS IS 12600 YEARS OLD!READ TIMEAUS AND KRITIAS OF PLATO.
IN THE ISLAND OF SANTORINI GREECE OLIVE TREES(Οlea europea) WERE FOUND 50000 YEARS OLD,WHICH SHOWS THAT GREECE HAD AN AGRICULTURE THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO,AND THIS TREE WAS TRAPPED WHEN THE THE VOLCANO ERRAPTED .
@interstellarwonder shut up!..Close your mouth!...Did i mention any races..idiot!...Earth indeed is Greece,..jealous bastard!..The earth runs only with Greek achievement!...Close your dirty mouth now,..and fuck off!..Do not dare bothering me an ymore!..oust!!!
@nixter888 T"he earth is GREECE!" fuck off with that shit,okay? you saying your better than everyone else? you self-righteous asshole!. this is YOU --->"The earth runs only with Greek achievement!", bullfucken shit! okay, you wanna start some shit,huh?
Yeah right. You achieved so much that you bankrupted your country and adopted your letter from the semitic phoenicians or were those guys greeks to, from lesbos perhaps. xD
@BENNYSIEGEL90 WE GAVE THE LETTERS TO PHOENICIANS STUPID!....Read the ancient accounts!..The only one who mentions that the phoenicians had some letters,with them when they came to Greece,it was Herodotus and he said....AS I THINK!......THOSE PHOENICIANS WERE GREEK PHOENICIANS,....PHOENICIA WAS FOUNDED BY AGINOR THE KING OF ARGOS,GREECE,AND HE GAVE THE NAME OF HIS SON PHOENIX TO THE PLACE!..THE SEMITES CAME LATER AND THEY HAD A WAR WITH THE GREEK PHOENICIANS,AND THE TOOK EVERYTHING FROM THEM!
IT MEANS THAT THE PELASGIANS [THE OLDER GREEKS ]HAD FIRST THESE LETTERS,and orpheus gave them to them!and palamidis and the rest,gave them to the rest of the greeks!...DIODOROS SICYLUS HIST.BOOK 3-67,5-74!
WE ALSO FIND GREEK LETTERS at Dispilio, in the lake of Kastoria, in northern Greece, professor G. Houmouziadis discovered a plate with writing very similar to that of the alphabet, which was dated, using radioactive Carbon-14 and visual photothermal methodology, back to 5250 B.C,....YOU ALL ARE GONNA HAVE TO GET USE TO THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ALPHABET AND THE LETTERS!...THE FALSIFICATION THAT THE SEMETIC PHOENICIANS GAVE US THE LETTERS IS OVER!
At Greeks Semitic gaplogroup Е reaches 40 %-41 %, and Semitic гаплогруппа J reaches 44 %. In aggregate Greeks on 87-88 % Semites as Greeks have also blood Ashkenazi.(2-3%)
And here the most important part of blood of Greeks-Turkic ARYAN blood.
Turkis-presents of an aria, descendants of Sumerian.Look, all "Ancient Greek" deities are deciphered ONLY in the Tatar language!
@hunnoturk Greeks are Greeks ,they have nothing to do with the Semites !...Indoeuropeans is a false term,they never existed!..That civilization belongs to the PROTO-GREEKS,...TURKS AGAIN ARE AN OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE,THEY CAME FROM MONGOLIA,..THEY ARE NOT THE ANCIENT SUMERIANS!..ANCIENT SUMERIANS WERE CRETANS!
Greeks - not Europeans. Greeks are Semites diluted with Turkis R1a, and R1b. "The Greek language" doesn't exist. This language is till now KOJNE- porridge from various Semitic languages.
The most ancient layer of "the Greek language" myths and legends is the Tatar language.
Before to get to Manchuria and Mongolia 3000-3200 years ago, Turkis lived and wandered in Mesopotamia.
Why Turkis R1b wandered to the Far East? Yes because all Great Steppe from Baikal and to Carpathians Mountains has already been occupied by other Turkis-Scythians.
In the most ancient burial places of Gunn's in the Far East find only one gaplogrupp - Mesopotamic R1b.
Probably, you have big brother or the sister who didn't allow to you a word to tell earlier and you received slaps in the face from seniors. I guess that to you in the childhood shut a mouth and didn't allow to express the opinion and consequently you shout huge letters. Kaps-lok disconnect, at me sensation that I speak with the stupid.
Turks are the teacher of all people. At you in a head "brick" instead of knowledge. And your arrogance above you so that you in it will sink soon.
@hunnoturk Bubbling ,Bubbling Bubbling!...What did you teach the world ..Turk?.. blight ?...Your fantasy runs,plus you have the nerve to use this kind of language to talk to me!...You Turks are uneducated cruel killers,violators,invaders!...You stole the Country of the Greeks,and now you have the nerve to tell us you are the teachers?...Barbarian monster!....Go catch a chicken!
Fallen Ones, The Watchers, and NEPHILIM - The Book of Enoch, and also in the Holy Bible- Fallen Angels were their gods, and now they pose as aliens today- Top UFOLOGISTS, and several thousands of abductees, after a lifetime of research, have come to the solid conclusion, that these beings aren't extraterrestrial, but are INTER-DIMENSIONAL, and paranormal in nature, and are actually Fallen Ones, NEPHILIM Spirits, a.k.a DEMONS. The Illuminati have FULLY KNOWN WHO, and WHAT these beings are for
TheWayandWordofLife 5 days ago
some great inforamtion here thanks
staranjela 1 week ago
You'll never find the 10th Planet or 'Planet X' because you can't!
The 10th Planet is Heaven & is invisible to the naked human eye
blangendam 1 month ago
?v=Xo0ZkgqM1TE&feature=related seems to older, Göbekli Tepe
intermatrixnaut1 2 months ago
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Gutian dynasty persisted until the end of the 17th century BC.While Old Babylonian sources give the region between the Tigris and the Zagros Mountains as the home of the Gutians, these people probably also lived on the middle Euphrates during the 3rd millennium. According to the Sumerian king list,The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back,
goran21715 3 months ago
Fuck me. Why can't I find any sensible documentary's about ancient Mesopotamia? Why is it all this tin foil hat alien bull shit?
TheNarcMan 3 months ago 13
@TheNarcMan - lol nice try.
northmeister 2 months ago
@northmeister
Mmm yeah
TheNarcMan 2 months ago
@TheNarcMan Lmao.. Right? It's really annoying. People like to present speculation as fact
guitarobsessed85 2 months ago
The Tower (s) of Babel was the Great Pyramid (Really) & is older than 400,000 years & literally predates the real Great Flood when the 1000 mile water vapour canopy surrounding earth & sheilding it from high energy particles collapsed & Nibiru (Whereever it is) was the original Prison Planet in an orbit next to an immanent supernova (Our hydrogen depleted iron-rich star) & our earth is Eden or the Garden & the gods had (Have) space travel but don't have star travel so look again to Christ...
spacelizardlaw 3 months ago
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To me it is absolutely indifferent, what barbarians came to ask to Sumer of wisdom and knowledge. Exactly as to me all equally - there were there ancestors of Kurds or weren't, an essence of the matter not in it: the Problem that these barbarians didn't concern neither Sumer, nor to sumerian to language.
I ask moderators to remove all off-top.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
Dear moderators, repeatedly I ask you: What relation was to Sumerian of protobarbarians KUTI, who came to ask wisdom to sumerian, among many other barbarians-elamits, Hindus, Semites ?
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty,liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke.The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back&aSumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians,Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty(2350-2150 BC)marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia, a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians2000BC
goran21715 3 months ago
@hunnoturk the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name "Kurti/Kurd" seem likely to be of Aryan origin *one of the first, in fact, in Kurdistan* instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today and including the Khardukhoi and Guti.(IzadI1993)The name Judikan is clearly merely a variant of "Jat", further cementing the thesis of a close relationship between the Jats& Kurds
goran21715 3 months ago
A word "KURD" - it is a kipchakien word "Flight".
As flight , many "gorans" snatch on the opponent.
This unworthy and cowardly behavior.
hunnoturk 3 months ago
@hunnoturk Gudea (ca 2142-2122 BC)ensi of Lagash, inaugurated the Sumerian renaissance & ruled Ur on behalf of the Gutian kings.His name itself indicates he was a Gutian.Such a view is not far-fetched,for personal names often indicate the provenance of its bearer.Thus,the personal name Francais is common amongst French-men & von Dachau in Germany indicate ancestry from Dachau.Thus,Gudea can be ,while identified as a Gutian based on his name. Moreover,if he was not a Gutian,
goran21715 3 months ago
@hunnoturk In Sumerian mythology, Kur was primarily a mountain or mountains, and usually referred to the Zagros mountains to the east of Sumer. It is possible that this name for the area coincides with the still present modern day Kurds who inhabit much of the Zagros mountains. The cuneiform for "kur" was written ideographically with the cuneiform sign 𒆳, a pictograph of a mountain.It can also mean "foreign land". Although the word for earth was Ki, Kur came to also mean land, and Sumer itself,
goran21715 3 months ago
@goran21715 <<<<this guy is copying these all from wikipedia he couldnt even understand english because he couldnt even make one meaningfull sentence in english.according to ludinguirra Gutis (probably kurds) were uncivilised mountaineers and they ruined and caused collapse of Sumer country.(memories of Ludingirra ,original Sumerians writings) Ludingirra also says ''we probably came from north east'' (middle asia)
esraretin 1 week ago 4
@esraretinancient In fact, ancient Gutium appears to have been merely another name for modern Kurdistan, a region inhabited by the Iranic-speaking Kurds today. In this regard, the great savant Archibald H. Sayce holds that the name of Kurdistan represents a mere derivation of 'Gutium': "Who "Tidal king of Goyyim" may have been we cannot tell. Sir Henry Rawlinson has proposed to see in Goyyim a transformation of Gutium, the name by which Kurdistan was called in early Babylonia.
goran21715 1 week ago
@esraretin Kurd name derived from Guti
Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan. The very name 'Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'. Thus, Prof. Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi' or 'Quradu,' with 'Guti': "The land of Guti answers in substance, and perhaps also in name, to the modern Kurdistan.
goran21715 1 week ago
@esraretin Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter 1990,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti,the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu,Lulu, Kassite,& Mittani.Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk, named Arrapha."
goran21715 1 week ago
@esraretin The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty,liberating the Sumerian from the Semitic yokeThe attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress theSumerian language were rolled back,&a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule.Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians,Badawy notes,The Akkadian dynasty 2350-2150 BC marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia,a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians 2000 BC
goran21715 1 week ago
@esraretin The Gutians overthrew the Akkadian dynasty, liberating the Sumerians from the Semitic yoke. The attempt by the fanatical Akkadian rulers to suppress the Sumerian language were rolled back, and a Sumerian renaissance occurred under benevolent Gutian rule. Describing the Sumerian revival under the Gutians, Badawy notes, marked a decisive phase in the Semitization of Mesopotamia, a process which went on in spite of the renascence of Sumerian under the Gutians 2000 BC
goran21715 1 week ago
@esraretin a Gutian dynasty persisted until the end of the 17th century BC.especially on the victory inscription of Utu-hegal of Uruk (c. 2116-c. 2110). While Old Babylonian sources give the region between the Tigris and the Zagros Mountains as the home of the Gutians, these people probably also lived on the middle Euphrates during the 3rd millennium.According to the Sumerian king list, the Gutians held the "kingship" in southern Mesopotamia for about 150 years
goran21715 1 week ago
@esraretin First mentioned in Elamite texts of the late 3rd millennium BC, they penetrated into Mesopotamia in the 2nd millennium, were repulsed by Hammurabi's son, but secured holdings within the Tigris-Euphrates valley on the northern frontiers of Babylonia and later established the second Babylonian dynasty. Chronicles and king lists are imprecise, and although the Kassite kings traditionally ruled over Babylonia for 576 years,
goran21715 1 week ago
@goran21715 lol u started again
esraretin 1 week ago
@esraretin lol its fact and the fact dont chang after milliom years
goran21715 1 week ago
I have a question to moderators of a site: What relation posts of my opponents to video theme have???
I consider all their posts off-top.У my opponents there is NO argument against my decodings of sillabic tablets of Sumer.Insteed correct discussion at my opponents is one citations from OUT-OF-DATE sources. My decodings are ARTEFACTS, against which at my opponents there is stories about Kurds. But Kurds have no relation to Sumer.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk where your decodings to know how discode it and where your source,are you have any knowledge about ancient language and location language like arab and kurdish and chaldian,how artefacts and what mean it ,lmeant you like to say out of archeologiest and laungist evidance. real l like argue you for evry thing you like to say on basic of science and logic,the kurd perncipel element of mesopotamia since perhistoric to nowaday,l divsing you to cocentral your effoct on north of great wall
goran21715 3 months ago
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hunnoturk 4 months ago
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hunnoturk 4 months ago
In clinic for mad too there is an Internet?
Really this mad haven't told about Cimmerians, about ONOGURs, KOTRYGURs, UTIGURs, (=HUNs=GUNs) undertaken an outcome from Mesopotamia and the Western Asia on open spaces of Eurasia, to the North Caucasus and to the Far East?
Poor, unfortunate, sick people are deprived elementary knowledge on stories of Mesopotamia. Exactly as they don't know that COME back of Far East GUNs have accepted Nestorian the Christianity version in АRMINIA in 3 century.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk HAHA foolish you need cilnic for mad you mix hun in 1 century with indo-eropean GUTI OR GOTHS whom was Zagros peoples they overthrow akkadian empire in 2212 bc & stay nowaday as kurd in region,foolish it not stories it history of mesopotamia appear you coming very leat to rewritting history to creator for your nomadic hun tribes whom dont leave for you any thing to depend on to know real who are you your facil mongols is evidace of you if you havent that featuer you bastard
goran21715 4 months ago
Surprisingly as many to inadequate opponents on the Internet which ask one question behind another, at all without listening to opposite opinion. They are sick people? Most likely.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Not only was Gutium located within the modern Kurdistan.The very name Kurd' itself has been viewed by scholars as being merely a corruption of the ancient Iranic word 'Guti'Thus,Prof.Howorth concurs with the derivation of Kurdistan from Gutium, and identifies the ancient Babylonian term for Kurds, 'Khuradi'or'Quradu,' with 'Guti':"The land of Guti answers in substance,&perhaps also in name,to the modern Kurdistan. According to Sayce the name Kurd is derived from the Babylonian quradu,
goran21715 4 months ago
This Goran simply idiot stupid and illiterate: On Sanskrit ARI = "Stranger", "Newcomer".Аryan gaplogroup R1a, R1a1=Turkic arien.
Iranians are not Aryans. At Iranians it is revealed gaplogroup I on 34 %. Iranians are wild paleoeuropien, without work tools, without arable tools, without the tamed draft animals and without the developed public institutes.
Iranians have admitted the fact of loan from Turkic language of 75 % of the glossary.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk
Lol... Turkic language in Iranian? You do know that the ''Turkish'' language today has 40% foreign words from which more than 12% is Persian? And you do know that Persian was a official language during the Ottoman Empire and now you're saying that there is 75% Turkic words in Iranian? Bullshit, ill tell you what. Everything about the turks EVERYTHING Music, intruments, culture it all comes from Iranians.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Shake "noodles" from the ears: All to that you learned till now it is one big LIE.
Paleoturopean Iranians-Tegeranian it is simple the barbarians cultivated by Turkis-arias R1a and R1b.
Iranians-Isfahanian are absolutely not related Tegeranian. Isfahanian it is the Siberian ethnos, headed by Turkis-arias R1a.
As it is a lot of to you opening wonderful
It is necessary to see soon:
You barbarians of Europe Old,
For you the school is ready already.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk you are simply idiot stupid and illiterate ( The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia.
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 You not simply idiot, illiterate and arrogant, you the idiot incapable to develop:Origin a point of Guns and Huns is Mesopotamia. The outcome of these Turkis has occurred on a boundary 3000-3200 years ago. Already 2800 years ago hunny-Huns were at limits of the Old Chinese Wall, to the south of the Great Wall on some hundreds km,near the HAN kingdom.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk haha you readed histioru updown ignorant,you real lose your ancestore ,foolish search in mongolia not here in mesopotamia,not GUN ,its GUTI (GUTIAN) OR GOTHS ca2100 BC same of those GUTI immigration to india they nown as JETE OR GUTI &same immigration to china holded same name and still there in reigion in same name, hey indo-european peoples not mongols or hun foolish go read web(glories of Gutian )& sane immigration to europe in same name GUTI OR GOTHS whom they destroyed hun
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Mazouri concurs with the identification of Kurds&Guti: Now historically,Kirkuk has been a Kurdish city.It is a part of Zagros highland which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes.In an article published its issue in1990, Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language,which was also spoken by their kin of Lulu,Kassite&mitanni
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Abundant evidence supporting the connection between Kurds and Gutians is further provided by toponyms in Kurdistan. In fact, the place-name Mt. Judi and the Kurdish clan of Judikanlu are fossil remnants of the awesome name left behind by the 'Guti', as a researcher notes, "For about two centuries (circa 2,200 to 2,000 BC) the Gutis gained the upper military hand over the Mesopotamian states. In an impressive show of force, they succeeded to annex Sumeria to their domain.
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 You prove the arguments only that at you doesn't suffice either formations, or a step, either ethics of dialogue, or sincere abilities to dialogue. You are simply BARBARIAN.
This my letter to you-last.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Lulubi were a group of tribes during the 3rd millennium BC,from a region known as Lulubum,now the Sharazor plain of in the Zagros Mountains,identificity Luluban with the modern Kurdish town,Halabja.
The early Sumerian legend "Lugalbanda and the Anzud Bird",set in the reign of Enmerkar of Uruk,alludes to the mountains of Lulubi"as being where the character of Lugalbanda encounters the gigantic Anzud bird while searching for the rest of Enmerkar's army en route to siege Aratta.
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk the Kurdish clan of Judikan, inhabiting the heartland of the ancient Gutis in southeatern Kurdistan. The "Kardukhoi" are none other than the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin *one of the first, in fact,in Kurdistan instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today &including the Khardukhoi and Guti.(Izady 1993)
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Prominence of the Irano-Afghan Race in Mesopotamia since Sumerian Times
The Iranic or Irano-Afghan race has dominated the plains of Mesopotamia since Sumerian times, as the learned American anthropologist Prof. C. S. Coon notes,
"The Irano-Afghan race, prominent since Sumerian times in Mesopotamia, is the chief population element in the entire highland territory from the western border of Iran to northern India. " (Coon 1939, The Irano-Afghan Race l am sure you dont read such info
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Prof. Derakshani, in a paper published in a prestigious Iranian journal,summarises the history of the Gutians thus476. Gutium (Qutium),situated in Western Iran,is mentioned already in the presargonic period in a document (ca.2500B.C)The fact that the Guti belonged to the proto-Iranians,is confirmed by their language,which is attested mainly by personal names.According to them the Guti spoke an Indo-European language,which was close to theTokharianThe relation between the Tokharn&aryan
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Gutian. Describing Gudea's achievements,a standard history work notes During this period when the North was being ruled by the Gutians, Lagash flourished,particularly during the reign of Gudea,who is well-known today through the many statues of him Prof.Cyrus Gordon notes further achievements of ancient Sumer:The greatness of Sumer can be measured in other spheres,too.Its sexagesimal system has reached us via the exact sciences.Our astronomers still divide the circle into 360degrees
goran21715 3 months ago
To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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hunnoturk 4 months ago
UZI, ancient city in N.E. Iraq at the present site of Yorghan Tepe, about (16 km.) S.W. of Arrapha, modern Kirkuk, near the foothills of southern Kurdistan. Excavations were begun at Nuzi in 1925 by E. Chiera and were continued through 1931 under the joint auspices of the American School of Oriental Research, Harvard University, and the University Museum of Pennsylvania. The earliest occupation of the site can be traced to prehistoric times. During the middle of the third millennium B.C.E.
goran21715 4 months ago
Lulubi were a group of tribes during the 3rd millennium BC, from a region known as Lulubum, now the Sharazor plain of in the Zagros Mountains identified their city Luluban with the modern Kurdish town,Halabja.
The early Sumerian legend "Lugalbanda and the Anzud Bird"set in the reign of Enmerkar of Uruk, alludes to the "mountains of Lulubi" as being where the character of Lugalbanda encounters the gigantic Anzud bird while searching for the rest of Enmerkar's army en route to siege Aratta.
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Till now nobody could decipher word ARATTA.On the Tatar language АRATTA is deciphered simply:
ARY+TAU = "Sacred Mountain". For: ARY = "Sacred".TAU = "Mountain".
Before lodging on mountains ARATTA, sumerian chose this mountain as a suitable place of rescue from the Flood: ARU+TAU = "MOUNTAIN Approaching just right"!!!, "MOUNTAIN Having the suitable size"!!!.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk what relation aratta to tatar language ! they haven't any exsistance in reigion in that early time. all these name came from sumerian caly tablet, no one mention they was seach tatar language in sumerian ,from word (KUR) , its have many meaning in kurdish 1 earth , grave . land , court, ARATTA may they mean Ararat mountian or (ARY CHIA) Ary mountian, the border of aryan & semite in west was red sea and miderarrian sea & in east was india and mongolia to russian, read history tatar
goran21715 4 months ago
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@goran21715 Yes you, I see, have decently lagged behind in a historiography. The eurocentrism and its false messages are razed to the ground. Russian - not Slavs. Russian are ugro-finns, operated Turkis with Turkic gaplogroup R1a, R1b.
Tatars - lineal descendants Sumer. For special slowcoaches there is a references on my deciperings:2012forum.
Present mongols are NOT MEN-GOLs.They are Tunguses.Ancient MEN-KOLs are kipchakian- turks=ALAN-KYWA.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia. .firsrt nemtion of turk
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 To me the reasons on which you are mistaken are absolutely indifferent. To me "on a violet drum" all your pseudo-historical calculations. In burial places huns and gunns in the Far East and in steppes of Mongolia find only one gaplogroup - R1b from Forward Asia and Meslpotamia.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me the reasons on which you are mistaken are absolutely indifferent. To me "on a violet drum" all your pseudo-historical calculations. In burial places huns and gunns in the Far East and in steppes of Mongolia find only one gaplogroup - R1b from Forward Asia and Meslpotamia.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk The population ancestral to the Turkiclanguage speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sourcesThe Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu,included in the ShiJi,traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestorChunwei,a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty
when you talk about sumerian,we talking in early bronz age not 11AD century
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 To me it is absolutely indifferent that you think.
I have deciphered and I decipher the most ancient Sumerian sillabic tablets on the basis of the Tatar language.
Now my decodings of Sumer tablets-it already incontestable ARTEFACTS.
Without dependence from that, you want it or do not want.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@goran21715 When I write about the decodings sillabic tablets of Sumer I mean tablets 6500-7000 years ago.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk early syllabic system pof sumerian belong to 4100bc-3800bc, so what relation of subject to tatar whom they appear in midde east after mongols invasion, Arattu city which mention in sumerian tale, Here was reporting as it would be for more than 3,000 years, might been in 3500 bc,so what you meant in date 6500-7000 and what you want to reach from that,
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 I am not going to teach to you here all course of Sumerologiа.
Study, study and study. Probably you can do it yourself .
All your statements are a soap bubble of eurocentrism.
Your feet loose in ooze? Look narrowly:
I decipher the most ancient tablets. Draw conclusions and don't litter the given site for a long time with the denied things.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk you must study history,the mongols or tatar or turkic havent any esistance in midde east befor 11 century,you unable to decoding clay sumerian tablet &understand it if you find word accident have meaning it not mean they was there,all scholars not mention that the mongolian was lived in sumer. history aryan streached from red sea and middeterrrian see to india & mongolian & russia in the east,the semite invasion aryan land when they cross the red sea now you came to say they was tatar
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Don't litter our site with the out-of-date, false and denied theories. Learn REAL history, instead of thought up by eurocentrists.
Once again I repeat: don't litter dear site with nonsenses.Not to get to such silly situations to you it is necessary to read all my articles and decodings is to begin with.
In the second it is necessary for you to read all historical works of the Kazan historical school, the present school not to look the idiot.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk it mean you try to rewritting history in you mood and cencel all that excavation by acgeologist and historian and scientist to to say sumerian was tatar , even foolish cant accept this thought , where you live and which type of history you study l am kud and indgenious in mesopotamia even befor ASSyrian and we have clay tablets writ in aryan language just its kurdish as wew use in our language ,here aryan land no you ore any one can change the fact by write same fake write in history
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 You are tireless in executing the denied idea.
Study and U will probably have the present outlook in the head, instead of the theory of pseudo-historians.
Agree, we stand at different levels of knowledge. You "have sunk" in the deformed history. I enjoy history from height of its beauty and Trues.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@hunnoturk it mean you try to rewritting history in you mood and cencel all that excavation by acgeologist and historian and scientist to to say sumerian was tatar,even foolish cant accept this thought , where you live and which type of history you study l am kud and indgenious in mesopotamia even befor ASSyrian and we have clay tablets writ in aryan language just its kurdish as wew use in our language ,here aryan land no you ore any one can change the fact by write same fake write in history
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Hamazi or Khamazi (Sumerian: Ḫa-ma-ziki[1]) was an ancient kingdom or city-state of some importance that reached its peak ca. 2500-2400 BC. Its exact location is unknown, but is thought to have been located in the western Zagros mountains roughly between Elam and Assyria, possibly near Nuzi or modern Hamadan.
Hamazi first came to the attention of archaeologists with the discovery of a vase with an inscription in very archaic cuneiform commemorating the victory of Utug
goran21715 4 months ago
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@goran21715 You are tireless in executing the denied idea.
Study and U will probably have the present outlook in the head, instead of the theory of pseudo-historians.
Agree, we stand at different levels of knowledge. You "have sunk" in the deformed history. I enjoy history from height of its beauty and Trues.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@goran21715 I wish successes in your searches. You at the very beginning of a way, and My God you keep to mix akkadian culture with Actually Sumer.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk l dont mix akkadian with sumerian , l thought there were many thing hide about him and sargon of akkad
the sumerian tablet exsist and the scholares studies it and there were many many words is pure kudish and its peinicibale in kurdish language even the real name of sargon was (Shir Gwan) shir mean( lion) and Gwa meaning youth lion , and kur it mean land , grave area,birth land ,and mean deep to a zaggote its kudish and from it derive word zigorty mean single man and so on
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Kurds - primordial Turkis. The name of the Kurdish people "KURD" in Turkic languages "Flight".Это means a word there is from кипчакского words "GURT" = "Family".Which there is from sumerian "GUR" = "Community", "Generality", "People".First governors of Kurds AHEMEN and CHiSH-PiSH = these are literary TATAR words and names.
Language at Kurds in various parts of Asia too is distinguished, but the TURKIC basis of Kurdish language is invariable only.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk foolish you so stupid and ignorant of all thing , kurd indeginous of mesopotamia and mongols invasion midde east in 11 century real you stupid and l thing you never reading two page of mesopotamia history , where you live in somaian desert or in Gubi desert ,l am sure you unable to undestand one word of kurdish , gur (kur) dont meaning community it mean land foolish, kurd or qurdi mention from earl sumerian and old babylion stupid like you invention and mix half 3millennuim with turk
goran21715 4 months ago
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hunnoturk 4 months ago
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@goran21715 Now in Tatarstan carry out the grandiose action on a blood test of medieval burial places of Mongols = (MEN-GOLs = "I'm Slave Supreme, on-Tatar).
90 % of burial places of Mongols have Mediterranean European gaplogroup.
Here is such "pies",the m-rs barbarians.)))))
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk One of the clearest indicators that the powerful Gutians of Guti were members of the Iranian race is provided by the geographical location of ancient Guti which lies within the modern orbit of the distribution of IranoAryan languages.lnfact,ancient Guti appears to have been merely another name for modern Kurdistan,a region inhabited by the Iranicspeaking Kurds today.In this regard,the great savant Archbald H.Sayce holds that the name of Kurdistan represents a mere derivation of guti
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk Guti (Kurdi ) that the very person who discovered the existence of the Gutian Dynasty, Prof. Scheil, noted this remarkable fact: "This national or tribal name of Guti, the name of "The Guti Troops (who) carried off the royalty" of the Mesopotamian empire by their conquest of Erech the imperial capital about 2495 BC, was recognized as obviously suggesting 'Goths' by Prof. Scheil, when he announced in 1911 his discovery of the Guti Dynasty in Mesopotamia,
goran21715 4 months ago
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@hunnoturk Guti (Kurdi ) that the very person who discovered the existence of the Gutian Dynasty, Prof. Scheil, noted this remarkable fact: "This national or tribal name of Guti, the name of "The Guti Troops (who) carried off the royalty" of the Mesopotamian empire by their conquest of Erech the imperial capital about 2495 BC, was recognized as obviously suggesting 'Goths' by Prof. Scheil, when he announced in 1911 his discovery of the Guti Dynasty in Mesopotamia,
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 See all materials on the prehistoric runic writing dated 8-9 centuries B.C. Or see runic signs 14 000 summer prescription.
I beg you: don't litter our site with the nonsenses about Mongols!
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk was ruling by chealdean&up mesopotamia by ASSyrian,are you thought there were tatarian in that time in mesopotamia?real you dont know what you talk about for your info tablet in sancharib labrary was stolen from babbylion its not assyrian,l readed about sumer&mesopotamia there weren't any maention of tatar or mongols or turkic,go read turkic immigration& him language to know real they didn't had any relation to aryan or sumerian l remember you hangarian descending from hun not turk
goran21715 4 months ago
@hunnoturk was ruling by chealdean&up mesopotamia by ASSyrian,are you thought there were tatarian in that time in mesopotamia?real you dont know what you talk about for your info tablet in sancharib labrary was stolen from babbylion its not assyrian,l readed about sumer&mesopotamia there weren't any maention of tatar or mongols or turkic,go read turkic immigration& him language to know real they didn't had any relation to aryan or sumerian l remember you hangarian descending from hun not turk
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Ridiculously to take a detached view as the opponent flounders in the false and out-of-date theories.
You it is not a pity to me. I warned you: to oppose me you should re-read all latest discoveries on Sumer language, on burial places of Huns in the Far East, by birth Huns at the first Emperors of China, by birth Huns at the first Pharaohs of Egypt. You don't hear me, and continue to CRY out on all U-Tube.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk it just aplecated to you,real you stupid,the2 handrad years ago there weren't mention of [itch mongols or tatar now you added new thing hear what stupid you live in fancifuless& illiusion.poor kurd exsist & idegenioues in kurdistan when you mongols wanderinf in Gubi desert like asian ass,kurdish languag find in clay tablet befor near 4000 years as we speak nowaday,its first aryan language excavation&for first time not in india but in kurdistan kurd have peom befor you ivasion mid east
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Eventually, it is simply indecent so disrespectfully to continue to write the nonsense.
I in general have doubts that you the European.
You are capable to hear me? I hope this time you can hear me: Find and read my articles about Huns and Guns, find and read my articles about Mongols = MEN-GOLs (=I'm Slave Supreme).Find and read my decodings of the most ancient tablets, and cease to cry out ugly on all Universe.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@hunnoturk l am kurd not Etheopean what different if one Etheopean argue withb you about histopry , appear you like to fake history fro who is far in region, l repeated the ant mongols tribes livr on mesopotamia , and what you imagent and and thinking history is created by facifulness,you are mad and non netural man and you need to go to doctor. l dosen't need to read what written bby crasy man,you must reading hisory of mesopotamia from perhistory to invasion of mongols and fall of baghdad
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Read at least all posts on the given theme, this that you in a condition to make.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
1. Sargon, the mighty king, king of Akkadê am I,
2. My mother was lowly; my father I did not know;
3. The brother of my father dwelt in the mountain.
4. My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the bank of the Purattu [Euphrates],
5. My lowly mother conceived me, in secret she brought me forth.
6. She placed me in a basket of reeds, she closed my entrance with bitumen,
7. She cast me upon the rivers which did not overflow me.
clear he was bastard,unknow father was from mountian (guti)
goran21715 4 months ago
Iranians-Isfahans haven't something in common at all with Iranians-tegeran.
Isfahanian - too the mixed ethnos:
1) Africans (?) or Dravids (?) F=22 %.
2) Turkis-Aryans R1a=18 of %.
3) northeast and northern Sibirian ethnos К=15 of %.
Tegeranian and Isfahanian unites only Turkic y-DNA R1a.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
Thank You very much for the video.... I am from Iran and ancient Iranians were also decendents of Summerians. I have see some of these amazing things from first hand. Please also visit 2012exposed.(om someone has just started a blog in there I thought it was interesting....
MrRavenize 4 months ago
@MrRavenize Don't write nonsense.
Iranians-Тegeranian on 34 % carriers Paleolithic y-DNA gaplogroup I.It means that the basic part of Iranians - the barbarians of ancient Europe who did not have neither cultural grain crops, nor instruments of labor, nor the developed public institutes.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
@MrRavenize Besides, at Iranians-Tegeranian are Turkic Aryan y-DNA
R1a+R1b=28 %.
On Sanskrit ARI "stranger", "newcomer" means.
Besides, last year the Iranian linguists admitted the air of Kazan TV that to 75 % of the Iranian glossary are borrowed. At whom?
Are borrowed from Turkis-sumerians.
hunnoturk 4 months ago
I expected science and history of Sumer and mesopotamia, but what i found here in an expensively made documentary is just crap. Why can't we use our knowledge and money to improve knowledge instead of using it for misinformation and alien speculation? Damnit! I can't find half a dozen good documentaries about Sumer, but hundreds of these videos advocating crap of the second kind ;). Our priorities should change, really...
MardasMan 5 months ago
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hunnoturk 4 months ago
@MardasMan The eurocentrists who have invented a certain artificial design instead of real story are guilty of it. The eurocentrism is razed to the ground, as the pseudoscientific theory. Thanks historians and linguists of the USA.
I unsuccessfully searched for primary sources about Sumer in the USSR and in Russia during 23 y.3 year ago I have found these primary sources in the Internet. Long live the INTERNET!
hunnoturk 4 months ago
this man has already been exposed as a liar by all other sumerian scholars so....erase this stuff from your psyche.
zebb1111 5 months ago
@zebb1111 What historical schools could deny me?
Present, please all list of these historical schools.
And as present reviews of these historical schools of my works. I will discuss with them with all in private, and I will lay out to you all discussion.
Otherwise - you simply liar and the provoker.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
You have written: "I AM A GREAT GREEK IDIOT!.".
You have made this discovery "just now?
I congratulate you.At last that you begin to see clearly.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk I simply want to know......who taught u all these things u say??? (Maybe the Jews??)
EuripidesTab13 5 months ago
@EuripidesTab13 At the same time and keys from my house don't want to receive?
hunnoturk 5 months ago
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nixter888 5 months ago
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nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888 I AM SO SORRY!..I THOUGHT I WAS TALKING TO THE TURK! ..BY MISTAKE I POST MY COMMENTS TO YOU!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888 χεχε.......δεν υπαρχει προβλημα...:)
EuripidesTab13 5 months ago
@hunnoturk You know.....my name is Hellenistic.....Euripides if it says something to u....does it means something in your language(i'm just curious(idiots) )
EuripidesTab13 5 months ago
@EuripidesTab13
Your name not so ancient that I considered it.
If to clean silly Greek suffixes and the terminations distorting all words of ancient primary sources also yours not the ancient name is possible was to consider.
However, make it yourself, laziness Greek and so already on hearing at everything so what for I should spend the precious time for yours?
hunnoturk 5 months ago
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nixter888 5 months ago
@hunnoturk I AM A GREEK!!!....IDIOT.....
nixter888 5 months ago
You have only words of a word and an inconsistent stream of words. Why you squeal and squall as a wounded pig?
Include the brains and cease to shout the big letters thes well I hear and I see.
You began to call the opponent and have become personal. It is assured your opuses will remove. Learn to communicate in a civilized way and with deep arguments.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
Athena, Apollo,Gera,Zevs,Pan..or Talpan, Gorgona, Gerakl, and Tefra, Tuf etc...- All these words and many other "Ancient Greek" words have the Tatar etymology and are easily deciphered in the Tatar language.
Get accustomed, solving ethnos at Greeks - Turkis R1b and R1a.
R1a-Turkis Aryans from Altai, and R1b-Turkis Aryans from Mesopotamia!
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk ΤΟΥΡΚΑΛΑ,,,go catch a chicken!...Apollo mean something in your barbaric language ..idiot?...Απόλλων (= from the verb απόλλυμι,=i destroy ,...AΘΗΝΑ=ATHENA=θεονόη= νου και διάνοια=MIND AND INTELLIGENCE...they mean something in your terrible language?ΖΕΥΣ ΤΟ ΔΙΟΣ=ΖΕΥΣΙΣ+GOD!...PAN=EVERYTHING!..THEY MEAN SOMETHING IN YOUR LANGUAGE AND NOT IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK LANGUAGE!...IDIOTS!..WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN?..NOBODY CAN TOUCH US WITH THEIR BULLLSHITS! GO TO SLEEP!
nixter888 5 months ago
With all this evidence how can humans believe in any of the religious bullshit that they promote? Human beings are just primitive life forms that don't belong in the universe. Too primitive to be classified as a civilization, a mock hybridof pig apes and godly DNA, wrecking havoc on the Earth until the End of Days. May they all perish. Amen.
Tianoevanova 5 months ago
i just want to watch cool vid & check out the comments section. this race bullshit is getting WAAaay out of hand on youtube.
interstellarwonder 5 months ago
These people are talking about ancient religions as if their doctrine was fact. Am I supposed to take this seriously?
TheSmackerlacker 5 months ago
Long live iraq the land of civilizations
komigennufan 6 months ago 2
Sumer is my favorite ancient civilization.
tigrecono 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine No man has ever seen god, and you seemed to have ignored the rest of the text.
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine misinterpreted extraterrestrials as God. Does that mean "God" isn't real?... No, lol but the God that people speak of on Earth in the bibles etc, isn't the supreme being. Isn't the TRUE - SPIRIT God. Nor are the angles. Well, this is a possiblity anyway. =)
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine Ancient Astronaut theory is still a great one today. The only thing us humans can do is theorize, until our day comes. As for GOD, why do we talk as if he is a man?... Let alone, no one has ever seen God - EVER - nor will he ever come down as a human form, because God = GOD, he/she/it would never bring itself down to this form, even if that were the case, the power would be too strong, and Earth would be gone. This is another reason why I believe primitive man could have
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine it diff. They take a human figure, because that is what they seen! Then, they add wings to this figure to explain that this man has the ability of flight. See what I mean? Technology could/would have been supernatural to those who knew nothing of it. Let alone, if extraterrestrials come from the sky, down to Earth. In man's eyes, they were descending from Heaven to the Earth. And many times, the sound man heard was Thunder crashing. Listen to our modern rockets...
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine Evolution is happening everyday. You must understand this. Also, you believe in a supreme being, not the God man talks about these days. One misunderstanding people are having is that, extraterrestrials could have came down to Earth in man's primitive time, and primitive man didn't understand who or what they were, so they were Gods and Angels. Look at an angel for a sec, now if you were primitive man, you didn't have a word for spaceship or rocket, so they had to explain
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine Evolution is everywhere my friend. But, I also believe that man started in Africa. The whole thing about Sumer is the first "civilization" you know - ways of living, advanced technology, school systems, etc, etc etc...If man started in Africa, who's to say that extraterrestrials didn't come down in time, didn't like the imperfections of man, then manipulated his DNA? Or had other plans for man?... Stories can change over time when passed down generations through generations.
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine They can fit the theory of evolution with Sumer coming first...
masterwatermage 6 months ago
@thephosphatemine I agree with you... Which if you read my earliest post, I stated this. "and the Greek people got everything from an earlier civilization. (Sumer)"
masterwatermage 6 months ago
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nixter888 6 months ago
@masterwatermage nixter is not wrong!...NIXTER KNOWS WHAT HE IS SAYING!....The ancient underwater city of PAVLOPETRI IN GREECE,the researchers now believe that the town could be 5,000-6,000 years old. This is at least 2,000 years older than any other known underwater cities....ALSO SESKLO GREECE IN Thessaly and parts of Macedonia (Greece). The oldest fragments researched at Sesklo place the civilization's development as far back as 6850 BC ! WICH IS MUCH OLDER THAN SUMER!
nixter888 6 months ago
ALSO an handout photo provided by the Greek Culture Ministry shows an prehistorical stone wall. The ministry said Greek experts discovered the oldest stony wall of the country, blocking the entrance of a cavern for 23,000 years in Thessalia, in the north. THE MYTH THAT THE SUMER IS OLDER IS LONG GONE!...
nixter888 6 months ago
@nixter888 Archeological findings show more settlements in Northern Greece, like Thessaly and Sesklo. Villages were found in Thessaly around 6500 BC while settlements in Sesklo started in 5500 BC. The inhabitants of these areas couldn't have been more than a hundred people. The houses were made of stone foundations with a roof made of a thick layer of clay and timber....ALSO IN SESKLO TABLETS WITH THE MOST ANCIENT GREEK LETTERS SINCE 7000 B.C,WERE FOUND!
nixter888 6 months ago
Also from the depictions of the Centaurs of the neolithic years and the documentation of Homer and Xenophon on the equestrian faculty of Greeks, confirms the use of horses in Greece, prior to any other civilization. There also exists a boat compass from Cyprus 5 000 bc, which includes pictures of horsemen. In Chaldea (known today as this fictitious Sumer/Sumerian -- a false civilization propagated by globalists) where they did not have horses, chariots were only recognized from 2 600 bc .
nixter888 6 months ago
Also found the Mesopithicus of Pentelikos, 9- million years old. and in Aliveri they found the semistanding Elladopithicus of also 9-10 million years. A bone of 5 million years was found in Ikaria and in Chalkidiki there also was found a plate for eating, 800 thousand years ago. IN TRIGLIA HALKIDIKIS THE ARCHANTHROPUS TRIGLIANESSIS WAS FOUND 11-12000000 YEARS OLD!..NOT OUT OF AFRICA!,..AT LIST NOT THE WHITE MAN!
nixter888 6 months ago
N. Samson, a curator of the Prehistoric and Classical Antiquities Department, discovered shards of vases ("ostraka") with letters identical to the present Greek alphabet while excavating at the "Cyclop's Cave," on the deserted island of Yioura, near the inhabited island of Alonnissos, in the Northern Sporades island complex. These vases were dated to 5,500 to 6,000 B.C ,,HOW DOES THIS MAKE SUMER OLDER?...DISTORTION IS A CRIME!
nixter888 6 months ago
ALSO WE HAVE INFORMATION FROM THE EGYPTIAN PRIESTS ,THAT ATHENS IT SELF IS 1000 YEARS OLDER THAN SAID EGYPT,BUT WAS EXISTING THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE WITH THE NAME KEKROPEA....THE EGYPTIAN PRIEST TELL US THAT ATHENS AS ATHENS IS 12600 YEARS OLD!READ TIMEAUS AND KRITIAS OF PLATO.
nixter888 6 months ago
THESE ARE A FEW FROM THE PROOFS THAT WE HAVE THAT GREECE IS THE OLDEST PLACE IN THE WORLD,AND WAS NOT EXISTED ONLY IN CLASSICAL YEARS !..THANK YOU!
nixter888 6 months ago
ALSO THE The Samarra bowl, at the Pergamonmuseum, Berlin. The swastika in the midle looks 100% GREEK!..DOES THAT SAY SOMETHING TO YOU?
nixter888 6 months ago
IN THE ISLAND OF SANTORINI GREECE OLIVE TREES(Οlea europea) WERE FOUND 50000 YEARS OLD,WHICH SHOWS THAT GREECE HAD AN AGRICULTURE THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO,AND THIS TREE WAS TRAPPED WHEN THE THE VOLCANO ERRAPTED .
nixter888 6 months ago
@nixter888 " says "GREECE IS THE OLDEST PLACE IN THE WORLD"? the earth is older
interstellarwonder 5 months ago
@interstellarwonder The earth is GREECE!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888 settle the fuck down ,your sounding like an asshole white supremist
interstellarwonder 5 months ago
@interstellarwonder shut up!..Close your mouth!...Did i mention any races..idiot!...Earth indeed is Greece,..jealous bastard!..The earth runs only with Greek achievement!...Close your dirty mouth now,..and fuck off!..Do not dare bothering me an ymore!..oust!!!
nixter888 5 months ago
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@nixter888 T"he earth is GREECE!" fuck off with that shit,okay? you saying your better than everyone else? you self-righteous asshole!. this is YOU --->"The earth runs only with Greek achievement!", bullfucken shit! okay, you wanna start some shit,huh?
interstellarwonder 5 months ago
@nixter888
Yeah right. You achieved so much that you bankrupted your country and adopted your letter from the semitic phoenicians or were those guys greeks to, from lesbos perhaps. xD
BENNYSIEGEL90 5 months ago
@BENNYSIEGEL90 WE GAVE THE LETTERS TO PHOENICIANS STUPID!....Read the ancient accounts!..The only one who mentions that the phoenicians had some letters,with them when they came to Greece,it was Herodotus and he said....AS I THINK!......THOSE PHOENICIANS WERE GREEK PHOENICIANS,....PHOENICIA WAS FOUNDED BY AGINOR THE KING OF ARGOS,GREECE,AND HE GAVE THE NAME OF HIS SON PHOENIX TO THE PLACE!..THE SEMITES CAME LATER AND THEY HAD A WAR WITH THE GREEK PHOENICIANS,AND THE TOOK EVERYTHING FROM THEM!
nixter888 5 months ago
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READ ....«φασίν τους Φοίνικας ουκ εξ αρχής ευρείν, αλλά τους τύπους των γραμμάτων μεταθείναι μόνον». (Διόδωρος, Σικελιώτης, βίβλος 5, 57 - 74 )
The phoenicians ..semites....did not create the letters from the begining,they only change them!..Diodorus Cicilus BOOK 5, 57-74....
nixter888 5 months ago
ALSO READ....Palamidis,and Epixarmos,and Simewnidhs, are the ones that gave the letters to the greeks, "
EYRIPIDHS APO.578 THE LETTERS WERE A GREEK CREATION!
TWN PELASGWN PRWTWN XRHSAMENWN tois metatetheisi harakthprsi pelasgika,prosa goreuthhnai, toutois xrhsasthai pelasgikois grammasi ton ORPHEA!
nixter888 5 months ago
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IT MEANS THAT THE PELASGIANS [THE OLDER GREEKS ]HAD FIRST THESE LETTERS,and orpheus gave them to them!and palamidis and the rest,gave them to the rest of the greeks!...DIODOROS SICYLUS HIST.BOOK 3-67,5-74!
nixter888 5 months ago
WE ALSO FIND GREEK LETTERS at Dispilio, in the lake of Kastoria, in northern Greece, professor G. Houmouziadis discovered a plate with writing very similar to that of the alphabet, which was dated, using radioactive Carbon-14 and visual photothermal methodology, back to 5250 B.C,....YOU ALL ARE GONNA HAVE TO GET USE TO THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ALPHABET AND THE LETTERS!...THE FALSIFICATION THAT THE SEMETIC PHOENICIANS GAVE US THE LETTERS IS OVER!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888
Greeks not Indo-Europeans. Greeks Semites.
At Greeks Semitic gaplogroup Е reaches 40 %-41 %, and Semitic гаплогруппа J reaches 44 %. In aggregate Greeks on 87-88 % Semites as Greeks have also blood Ashkenazi.(2-3%)
And here the most important part of blood of Greeks-Turkic ARYAN blood.
Turkis-presents of an aria, descendants of Sumerian.Look, all "Ancient Greek" deities are deciphered ONLY in the Tatar language!
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk Greeks are Greeks ,they have nothing to do with the Semites !...Indoeuropeans is a false term,they never existed!..That civilization belongs to the PROTO-GREEKS,...TURKS AGAIN ARE AN OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE,THEY CAME FROM MONGOLIA,..THEY ARE NOT THE ANCIENT SUMERIANS!..ANCIENT SUMERIANS WERE CRETANS!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888
Greeks - not Europeans. Greeks are Semites diluted with Turkis R1a, and R1b. "The Greek language" doesn't exist. This language is till now KOJNE- porridge from various Semitic languages.
The most ancient layer of "the Greek language" myths and legends is the Tatar language.
Before to get to Manchuria and Mongolia 3000-3200 years ago, Turkis lived and wandered in Mesopotamia.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk IT'S GOOD TO DREAM!...BUT WHEN YOU BELIEVE THAT THE DREAMS ARE TRUE,IT STARTS TO BE DANGEROUS! TURK!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888.
Why Turkis R1b wandered to the Far East? Yes because all Great Steppe from Baikal and to Carpathians Mountains has already been occupied by other Turkis-Scythians.
In the most ancient burial places of Gunn's in the Far East find only one gaplogrupp - Mesopotamic R1b.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk tURKS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING!..They were not civilized people! THEY WERE NOMADS!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888
Probably, you have big brother or the sister who didn't allow to you a word to tell earlier and you received slaps in the face from seniors. I guess that to you in the childhood shut a mouth and didn't allow to express the opinion and consequently you shout huge letters. Kaps-lok disconnect, at me sensation that I speak with the stupid.
Turks are the teacher of all people. At you in a head "brick" instead of knowledge. And your arrogance above you so that you in it will sink soon.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk Bubbling ,Bubbling Bubbling!...What did you teach the world ..Turk?.. blight ?...Your fantasy runs,plus you have the nerve to use this kind of language to talk to me!...You Turks are uneducated cruel killers,violators,invaders!...You stole the Country of the Greeks,and now you have the nerve to tell us you are the teachers?...Barbarian monster!....Go catch a chicken!
nixter888 5 months ago
@nixter888
From you the arrogance sinful sticks out. In Christianity the arrogance is a deadly sin. I have doubts that you are the Christian.
Most likely you are vile UN-GOD a being.
hunnoturk 5 months ago
@hunnoturk I AM A GREAT GREEK IDIOT!..I DO NEED CHRISTIANISM!
nixter888 5 months ago
Gorgon=Γοργονα="gorgos" and translating as terrible or dreadful....is that Turkish idiot?...
nixter888 5 months ago