It does matter, whether its German, Austrian German or Swiss German, I am still the absolute master of the German language-its absolutely perfect/immaculate to the very best degree!!!!!!!!
Well as a linguist, instead go seeing German (High German) and 'the dialects', rather I view Alemannic German (Swiss German) and Low German as separate languages to High German because they're simply too different to be considered dialects of the one language! Ig we were to take this definition, then Danish, Norwegian and Swedish would be considered dialects of one language, which they aren't for political purposes.
If Americans had such a conversation regarding dialects within the United States, it wouldn't be nearly as intelligent as this conversation. Also, seriously? I can't understand anything the bald Swiss guy says. It's ridiculous!
I'd like to live in either Switzerland or Austria one day. I can understand German, they talk slowly which makes it easy to understand.. but the third guy, the semi-bald one.. Jesus Christ that sounds more like Norwegian/Swedish than German :(
its funny my dad is austrian and spent a part of his childhood in switzerland (due WW2) so he partially learned switzerdütsch. sometimes he talks to me in heavy swiss-german as joke and i -do not understand a single word-. actually id probably understand more dutch than swiss german...
but about the language: german speakers can probably understand part of it in this video where the words are similar to the general german like for instance "grundnahrungsmittel auf 2,4% herabsetzen" is pretty book-german for the rest its very hard...
@HesseJamez Is there a reason why Swiss German sounds so different? Perhaps it specialised in a different direction and got influenced by Helvetian Celtic, French and Bavarian/Tyrolese tongues, right?
It's absolut different from bavarian, I never heard of a "helvetian celtic" (????) . Swiss german is germanic/ german and closest to the swabian dialect of South-West- Germany. There's no french influence at all.
Though all German-Swissmen (70%) can speak & write high german, they use their own language as a sign of nationality in daily conversation. The first guy speaks high german, the second guy speaks high german with swiss accent and the bald guy speaks swiss-german, only.
@HesseJamez Thank you for the information. Does the first guy even understand the bald man who uses Swiss German? His dialect sounded way different, like a different language. But apparently the Germans speak in lots of different dialects as well.
The first guy lives in my hometown, Kassel - by chance. He once was our major in the 80s...he might understand our local dialect, but not the swiss guy - people from SW-Germany might have less problems.
@HesseJamez So when you say the people from the southwest of Germany, are you referring to places like Mannheim and Stuttgart? So they speak Swabian, right? I was told by a friend that the Bavarian speakers of Munich and Nuremburg cannot understand Northern Germans, specially if they speak in dialects. Could you please make some comments on this?
More like Stuttgart and south of, Mannheim has another "language". Nuremberg is part of Bavaria but they speak "frankonian", not bavarian. Each region has its own dialect, more or less mixed with high german. It would fill a book to count all our local dialects, but we all speak high german, too.
Indepedent countries like Luxembourg or Switzerland keep their dialect as a sign of patriotism. Luxembourg has even created an own ortography , which looks funny for us native Germans.
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I speak quite a bit of German, and as some have said already, the Swiss German is very different sounding to the German I know, we have been looking at moving to Zürich, and language wasn't much of a problem for us, but when you get outside the city, it is!!
I speak French also, so Geneva may well be a better place for use until we can grasp that German!!!
I'm fluent in german from Schleswig-Holstein down to Bavaria and Austria...but i understood just about nothing from the Swiss man. I literally can not repeat what he said. Really frustrating. I have a hard time with German-speaking Belgians as well.
@Irishborne Das kann ich aber nicht verstehen, da wir in Belgien in erster Linie Hochdeutsch reden (mit dem eifeler Dialekt, den man auch in der deutschen Eifel spricht).
The difference between "proper" German and Swiss German sounds as big as between Swedish and Norwegian. Is it difficult for germans to understand the heavy swiss dialect?
Yes, it the Swiss German SOUNDS a bit like Dutch and Scandinavian, but the "proper" German is easier for us swedes to understand. Dutch, by the way, is like a mix of German and Scandinavian.
@ivoanathema Be happy that you learn Hochdeutsch which you can use in all German speaking countries. Swiss German wouldn´t help you in Germany for example.
@Metman07 My mother's language is Belgian Dutch, and Swiss German sounds like how older people from the smaller villages make their speech totally incomprehensible with their local dialect (dialects are rather extreme in Belgium)
When they speak on national television (even local), subtitles are required LOL
@TheLizardKing1967 - hahahahahah omg why would you say that? ( Swiss-German ' vilicht du hesch keis ziit ' - German - ' Vielleicht du hast keine zeit ' - English ' maybe you have no time ' (PLEASE PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF ' AMERICAN ENGLISH - oh and by the way I am Australian - Swiss
@TheLizardKing1967 I think it's more like comparing English to Scots - cos there are all sorts of weird dialect words as well! I was just in Zurich, I love the word 'Gruetzie' :)
@TheLizardKing1967 no they don't! I've met a lot of germans who think they understand swiss german. but once I start talking to them in Swiss German they don't understand a word...
The bald guy is speaking in the Bernese dialect while the woman is talking in the Zurich dialect. And as said before the gux with the glasses at 0:52 is speaking with a French accent while the first guy is speaking High German (from the north of Germany probably). And the interviewer (the guy in charge of everything) is speaking High German with a Swiss German accent.
I don't know any German so forgive me for my ignorance but where does the Pennsylvania Dutch derive? The Amish speak some form of old German and was wondering what part of the German speaking world they came from and if the language is more related to the Swiss German or regular German.
@georgio941 I come from a long line of PA Dutch....it depends on where your PA Dutch ancestors came from.....some from Germany, some from Switzerland also some French.....mine came from both Switzerland and Germany (more swiss than anything). The language itself is simply called Pennsylvania Dutch or Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch. :)
too be honest i understand a swiss germans hoch deutch better than a germans german. the german have a way of changing the sound of some words and the ch. i just personally find the swiss germans speak a very basic clear german when they speak hoch deutch.
Das Problem ist, dass das was sie sagen so langweilig ist, dass ich es fast nicht verstehen will. Der Glatzkopf ist für mich als Zürcher eher schwierieger zu verstehen.
Der Alte (der Schweizerdeutsch sprichtt) erinnert mich an meinem Gitarrenlehrer, der redet auch so, fast mit der gleichen Stimme! Irgendwie ist das wohl ein Kontrast zwischen einem Norddeutschen, einen Welschschweizer (französischsprechend) und einem Schweizer der versucht Hochdeutsch mit dem Deutschen zu reden. Also ein einziges Mischmasch.
Sehr interessantes Video, vom sprachlichen Standpunkt her. - Man muss sich nur immer zwingen, nicht auf den Inhalt zu achten. Wenn ich Politiker höre, muss ich mich immer ärgern! Aber die Dialekte hört man sehr gut.
To be more specific about the differences in the dialects:
- The guy speaking at the very beginning, 0:01, is speaking perfectly accented German.
- The presenter, 0:44, is speaking proper German but with a Swiss accent.
- The bald guy speaking at 1:51 is speaking in heavy Swiss dialect, of the type usually spoken on an everyday basis in the German speaking cantons of Switzerland.
@Silverfire321 the first guy is from germany he speaks "germany" german! the secont guy is from switzerland and speaks "germany" german with an accent (of course) the third guy speaks SWISS GERMAN which is totally different from "germany" german!
@Silverfire321: The guy at 1:51 comes from the Aargau, an area pretty close to Zurich. There are lots of differences between swiss german dialects. People in Bern, Basel or other parts speak differently than this guy. There's no "real" swiss german dialect!
schweizerdeutch in the Bern canton is a language I would like to study before I ever bother to learn standard German, not only to honor some of my ancestors and distant cousins who speak it, but just to piss off all the Krauts and Austrian immigrants in America who are buttsore because they never conquered Switzlerland.
@spiralcosmosart Yes, you would. Because there's no formal written language. Evrything's based on High German. In Zürich there's a Swiss German course for German speakers but I'm afraid it's only about the dialect spoken in Zürich. Well, Swiss German is the official spoken language. High German is only used in written communication and some radio, tv programmes. You can speak High German everywhere, although most of the Swiss people don't appreciate it, they'll be polite to you.
@magnusgnarus I would think they'd would prefer a genuine effort to learnt their traditional language rather than deal with another American tourist who can only communicate with them in English.
Well, someone has to be pretty much full of shit and/or on the political nationalistic site to get pissed off by that. Besides, i don't quite get to what historic events you are referring(medieval times maybe?).
I think there's still a resentment by Austrians and Germans from World War 2 and fair number of Nazis who never got to cash in on the Jewish gold they looted that Switzerland hoarded for them.
@spiralcosmosart Ah ok i see. We are talking about Neonazis. It's save to assume that this people represent a very small fraction of a countries population and nobody should care what this retarded shitheads think. In regards to the rest of the population; jewish gold in switzerland is no matter of concern whatsoever. It seems the biggest issue here is the image problem for the swiss themselfs. ok by
Switzerland remaining unscathed while the neighbors are bombed divided and rebuilt carries a multi-generational resentment. and prejudice. Extreme prejudices still goes on in America between the North and South from a civil war that ended in 1865. Are you German? Are there ever stereotypes and tensions with the Swiss or not?
@spiralcosmosart I'm austrian and can only speak from within my own perspective. Are there stereotypes? Of course they are, like every country has their own set. But i can't see a general tension between Switzerland and its (german speaking) neighbours. If there is one i have missed it for 25 years and i doubt this is the case.
you would piss yourself off you f*ckin' racist. swiss, austrians and germans have all the same roots so you can say that swiss are german as well! damn bismarck shouldve annected us years ago, and fuck the romands!
@0LuckyInternetUser0 I'm guilty as charged. I guess this little banter I started is all kind of a little self serving identity investigation crisis and coping mechanism, but then again we're all kind of all one family of the human race aren't we? Still I'm proud that the Swiss were well organized and patriotic enough from going as Nazi as Austria and Germany. I'm also proud of the original Swiss Rebellion against the Hapsburg dynasty.
@tsartodd first of all, scandinavian is not a language (there is swedish, danish, norwegian and depending on your definition of scandinavia also finnish) and really? if you had ever heard them both, you would know they don't have more in common then french and italian do.... (and I should know as I am bilingual and speak both swedish and swiss german perfectly.....)
Getting a bit worried here. I'm going to attend ETH Zurich this year and i was hoping to learn alot of standard German. Do people speak standard German on a day to day basis in Zurich?
Everyone knows Standard German (Hochdeutsch), but it isn't what they speak with each other on a day to day basis. In non-school situations it is pretty much always Swiss German (Alemannic Dialects)
Switzerland is the biggest financial criminal in the world, and Deutschland is doing the right thing by crushing Shittzerland banking secrecy and bankrupting the shitty swiss banks once and for all.
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Waaah, waaah, cry like a baby you pathetic swiss coward! Truth is everyone hates your guts -- EU, US, even China, and now all of them are going to kick the shit out of your pathetic banking system! Your economy is finished! Say goodbye Shittzerland! Heil Deutschland forever!
Oh yeah, and Germany will take its place? I guess the reason the US is collapsing is that we have 100,000 troops still in Germany from when we kicked your ass the second time, you know World War II?
@usaiscollapsing I bet 1000$ you have no Fucking Idea of what your talking abou!! would you be so kind and explain to me what exactly the bank secrecy is?
and again FUCK the USA and yes it is colapsing NOT like switzerland!!
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Fuck Switzerland!
I am so happy that Germany is going to receive the names of the people who hide their money in Shittzerland, so swiss banks are going to be fucked in the ass once everyone moves their money out of that joke of a country!
Heil Deutschland! Hitler should have carpet-bombed Shittzerland to dust!
I hope you understand German: In der Bevölkerung hier wird über die Tatsache diskutiert ob ein Staat, in diesem Fall Deutschland, eigene Rechte und Prinzipe der Gesetzgebung brechen kann um an die Gerechtigkeit zu kommen. Dass ist die Hauptfrage, meines erachtens nach.
Part 2/3 Kriminelle, in Finanzdelikten überwiegend Reiche, verletzen die Regeln überall auf der Welt. Man muss in der Praxis funktionierende Gesetzesänderungen vornehmen um solchen auf die Schliche zu kommen. Die Person(en) welche diese Daten-CD an Deutschland für viel G E L D zu verkau versucht macht sich sehr strafbar. Zumindest in einem Rechtsstaat ;-) Diese Person ist nicht mehr und nicht weniger kriminell wie die a r m e n Steuerflüchtlingen.
Der Fall währe ganz anders, hätte die Person mit moralischen Hintergrund gehandelt. Dass heisst, aus reinem Gewissen Mitmenschen gegenüber und nicht aus finanziellem Profit.
@VampireReia you like to think negativ ;) donno if the whole world but the western part is! but what is it exactly?? because its not just the economie... I think we are losing everywhere! like people are actually getting dumber! knowing about problems but not careing!? seeing how stuff gows wrong but doing nothing against it! what is wrong with this world??
Pangermanischer Witz: Deutsche und Schweizer sind sich sehr ähnlich, Allerdings sind die Schweizer die besseren Deutschen und darum nennen sie sich nicht mehr so...
ich liäb euses schwizerdütsch und all dialekt und so schwer zverstah ischs nöd en dütsche wo abundzue mal ide schwiiz isch unds vill ghört de gwöhnt sich schnell drah und verstahts denn au.
i love our swiss german and all the dialects, and its not that hard to understand for germans, if they are here 1,2 times they will understand it.
ich habe einige deutsche bekanntschaften auf verschiednsten orten deutschlands und inzwischen verstehen alle schwizerdütsch
sn nein das ist kein walliser dialekt walliser deutsch würde hier niemand verstehn ausser ich, ich bin walliser ,der rest fressehalten scheiss neider ENGLAND NOOBS
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already lived there, you dumb swiss bitch. Hate your land of banks, overpriced hotels and shit, soulless, poor excuses for human beings. Why don't YOU write in german. Oh that's right, you can't, because you only speak your shit dialect of having 3 cocks in your mouth at the same time and would never understand the educated REAL german.
das stimmt nicht. die berner die verstehn alle und die thurgauer ebenfalls.. der einzige dialekt den man gar nicht versteht ist der walliser dialekt...
but you need to know that in germany we have like dozens of different dialects...so, for a northern german it is more difficult to understand swiss german than for a guy from southern germany...
@1990anibas ja das kann sein...ich muss immer ein bissl lachen wenn ich im fernsehen leute aus bayern, baden-württemberg oder hessen oderso sehe, die so nen starken dialekt labern dass sie untertitelt werden müssen^^
ich wette ihr schwiitzer würden kein plattdeutsch verstehen oder?
@skiegiek we have a similar issue in America when Jamaicans come to our country. The speak an English like language, but it is so full of slang and the accent is so strange most Americans can't understand them.
@apologeticsman yes...all this crazy dialects....standart german (hochdeutsch) you will only find in certain areas in germany because allmost every corner of germany speaks a different dialect
@dadaras12 but you know that dutch and swiss german have no similarities^^ so if you like swiss german you shouldnt start to learn dutch ^^
if i were you i would learn standart german (hochdeutsch) cause if you can speak "hochdeutsch" you can understand a bit dutch too and a bit swiss german
@skiegiek i am studying hochdeutsch,i have completed the grundstuffe classes and
have b1 zertifikat diplom and now im getting prepared for mittelstufe and hopefully in one year and a half i will be qualified for deutsches kleines sprachdiplom,but
i would like to learn some dutch,because now dutch sound to me very relevant to swiss german :P :D
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TheLizardKing1967 9 minutes ago
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
TheLizardKing1967 10 minutes ago
It does matter, whether its German, Austrian German or Swiss German, I am still the absolute master of the German language-its absolutely perfect/immaculate to the very best degree!!!!!!!!
Sach1stistheverybest 2 weeks ago
mfw sexplosion is on the display in the background
TurkeySandwich75 1 month ago
the swiss douche needs to go back to his Monopoly board where he belongs
EDIshames 3 months ago
@EDIshames I think, You sir should get back in your shitty english youtube
BluegreenBlizzard 1 month ago
Well as a linguist, instead go seeing German (High German) and 'the dialects', rather I view Alemannic German (Swiss German) and Low German as separate languages to High German because they're simply too different to be considered dialects of the one language! Ig we were to take this definition, then Danish, Norwegian and Swedish would be considered dialects of one language, which they aren't for political purposes.
GaeilgeSpraoi 3 months ago 2
Schwyzerdütsch <3
AcryllicGaming 3 months ago
Schwiizerdütsch is much beautiful for me :-)
SMUcilimu02 3 months ago 4
Mwahaha.... well I understand all of it, and I actually prefer Swiss to German, but I grew up in Switzerland so....
Hiltil 4 months ago
boa.....hardcore. ich versteh kein wort, fränkisch is mir viel lieber
Sapharunh 4 months ago
I speak German, and I cannot understand this bald guy AT ALL.
DavidAlanRogers 5 months ago
@DavidAlanRogers: Aber kannst du die Frau verstehen?
DNchap1417 4 months ago
@DNchap1417
Ja, aber ihr Akzent ist nicht so ueberwaeltigend. Der Kerl klingt wie er unter Wasser ist.
DavidAlanRogers 4 months ago
The bald guy is called Ueli Giezendanner. He talks Swiss German of western Argovia. The lady is Verena Diener. She talks Swiss German of Winterthur.
steitisch 5 months ago
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SMUcilimu02 4 months ago
If Americans had such a conversation regarding dialects within the United States, it wouldn't be nearly as intelligent as this conversation. Also, seriously? I can't understand anything the bald Swiss guy says. It's ridiculous!
TheCorporalKlinger 5 months ago
I'd like to live in either Switzerland or Austria one day. I can understand German, they talk slowly which makes it easy to understand.. but the third guy, the semi-bald one.. Jesus Christ that sounds more like Norwegian/Swedish than German :(
TheRaevin 5 months ago
Warum kann ich nicht was den drtitten Mann sagt verstehen? spricht er auch Deutsch?
draconius222 5 months ago
@draconius222 Er 'at eine fransösische Aksent. ;)
RealZeldaHero 5 months ago
its funny my dad is austrian and spent a part of his childhood in switzerland (due WW2) so he partially learned switzerdütsch. sometimes he talks to me in heavy swiss-german as joke and i -do not understand a single word-. actually id probably understand more dutch than swiss german...
mushnoodle 5 months ago
Sorry, could someone please help me out here. Who's who? Also can speakers from Germany understand the Swiss German in this clip?
zazairanic 5 months ago
i cant really tell you who is who sorry!
but about the language: german speakers can probably understand part of it in this video where the words are similar to the general german like for instance "grundnahrungsmittel auf 2,4% herabsetzen" is pretty book-german for the rest its very hard...
mushnoodle 5 months ago
@zazairanic
Even native Germans have trouble to understand Swiss german, so don't worry.
HesseJamez 5 months ago
@HesseJamez Is there a reason why Swiss German sounds so different? Perhaps it specialised in a different direction and got influenced by Helvetian Celtic, French and Bavarian/Tyrolese tongues, right?
zazairanic 5 months ago
@zazairanic
It's absolut different from bavarian, I never heard of a "helvetian celtic" (????) . Swiss german is germanic/ german and closest to the swabian dialect of South-West- Germany. There's no french influence at all.
Though all German-Swissmen (70%) can speak & write high german, they use their own language as a sign of nationality in daily conversation. The first guy speaks high german, the second guy speaks high german with swiss accent and the bald guy speaks swiss-german, only.
HesseJamez 5 months ago
@HesseJamez Thank you for the information. Does the first guy even understand the bald man who uses Swiss German? His dialect sounded way different, like a different language. But apparently the Germans speak in lots of different dialects as well.
zazairanic 5 months ago
@zazairanic
The first guy lives in my hometown, Kassel - by chance. He once was our major in the 80s...he might understand our local dialect, but not the swiss guy - people from SW-Germany might have less problems.
HesseJamez 5 months ago
@HesseJamez So when you say the people from the southwest of Germany, are you referring to places like Mannheim and Stuttgart? So they speak Swabian, right? I was told by a friend that the Bavarian speakers of Munich and Nuremburg cannot understand Northern Germans, specially if they speak in dialects. Could you please make some comments on this?
zazairanic 5 months ago
@zazairanic
More like Stuttgart and south of, Mannheim has another "language". Nuremberg is part of Bavaria but they speak "frankonian", not bavarian. Each region has its own dialect, more or less mixed with high german. It would fill a book to count all our local dialects, but we all speak high german, too.
Indepedent countries like Luxembourg or Switzerland keep their dialect as a sign of patriotism. Luxembourg has even created an own ortography , which looks funny for us native Germans.
HesseJamez 5 months ago
@zazairanic
there is actually a wikipedia article about german dialects in english
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org /wiki /German_dialects
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jasongotti1992 5 months ago
I speak quite a bit of German, and as some have said already, the Swiss German is very different sounding to the German I know, we have been looking at moving to Zürich, and language wasn't much of a problem for us, but when you get outside the city, it is!!
I speak French also, so Geneva may well be a better place for use until we can grasp that German!!!
mikecracknell 6 months ago
I understood only the Swiss and only maybe 10 % of the German guy.
aswissgirl 6 months ago
I'm fluent in german from Schleswig-Holstein down to Bavaria and Austria...but i understood just about nothing from the Swiss man. I literally can not repeat what he said. Really frustrating. I have a hard time with German-speaking Belgians as well.
Irishborne 6 months ago
@Irishborne Das kann ich aber nicht verstehen, da wir in Belgien in erster Linie Hochdeutsch reden (mit dem eifeler Dialekt, den man auch in der deutschen Eifel spricht).
FrancisJoa 5 months ago
@FrancisJoa
Hochdeutsch in Belgien mit Eifeler Dialekt? - Entspricht das etwa dem Letzebuergesch?
HesseJamez 5 months ago
Wtf.
Angelwings7deutschen 7 months ago
The bald guy sounds like a mix of dutch and scandinavian languages!
baltostella 7 months ago 18
@baltostella That's EXACTLY what it sounds like.
Cvasir 6 months ago
@baltostella Icelandic and Dutch :D
Helsinkisillest 5 months ago
@baltostella Yes! It sounds a lot like Swedish-German hybrid.
Xcokedav096 4 months ago
Yeah i understand the whole video but i'm also living in Switzerland .-.
TheChandrians 8 months ago
I didn't understand a word from the Swiss guy.
Lappith 8 months ago 2
Although I'm not perfectly fluent in German, I get most of what is said in standard German but I don't understand Swiss German at all.
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OnlineSchoolBerlin 8 months ago
Does someone know it which dialect they teach in the german speaking/ bilingual cantons university in Switzerland? Do they teach in Hochdeutsch?
freedom260 9 months ago
@freedom260 yes, in every school you have to speak Hochdeutsch during the lesson, so also in the universities..
Rockglam10 8 months ago
@Rockglam10 ok, thanks for taking the time to reply! :)
freedom260 8 months ago
@freedom260 youre welcome!
Rockglam10 8 months ago
The difference between "proper" German and Swiss German sounds as big as between Swedish and Norwegian. Is it difficult for germans to understand the heavy swiss dialect?
Yes, it the Swiss German SOUNDS a bit like Dutch and Scandinavian, but the "proper" German is easier for us swedes to understand. Dutch, by the way, is like a mix of German and Scandinavian.
spajdude 9 months ago
It's heavier than Dutch haha
CamerOneiric 9 months ago
I love swiss german- unfortunately we learn only hochdeutsch in our German Gymnasium in Sofia.
ivoanathema 9 months ago
@ivoanathema Be happy that you learn Hochdeutsch which you can use in all German speaking countries. Swiss German wouldn´t help you in Germany for example.
FrancisJoa 5 months ago
Swiss German sounds similar to Yiddish.
Lagolop 10 months ago
What are they saying?
My poor understanding of the German language only allows me to hear a few words here and there.
Mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut. =(
Tharumus 10 months ago
Swiss German reminds me of Dutch....
ZelazowskiAuvergne 10 months ago
@ZelazowskiAuvergne The same thing here. Also it reminds me of how the people of Gotlands sounds like when they speak swedish.
MrMugg 10 months ago
Wääh dä SVP ler!!!! Schreklich!...
nekolover1000 11 months ago
oh just speak proper german...fukin swiss
nidaroon858 11 months ago
@nidaroon858
learn siwss german moron :)
MidNightSummer0 9 months ago
As a Portuguese speaker, it all sounds Chinese to me. I can notice some difference between the two, though.
akkappul 11 months ago
Those swiss guys at the beginning speak high german with swiss accent - Real swiss German (from 1.40 on) needs subs.
HesseJamez 11 months ago
so where would the presenter at 0:44 be from?
pinkmour 1 year ago
What a great mustache! haha
nardmanman 1 year ago 2
Swiss German sounds more musical and rhythmic (for lack of a better term) than Hochdeutsch (which is more monotone to my Anglophone ears).
tsartodd 1 year ago
To an English speaker, Swiss German sounds almost exactly like Dutch.
Metman07 1 year ago 2
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Superscriptor 1 year ago
@Metman07 My mother's language is Belgian Dutch, and Swiss German sounds like how older people from the smaller villages make their speech totally incomprehensible with their local dialect (dialects are rather extreme in Belgium)
When they speak on national television (even local), subtitles are required LOL
Superscriptor 1 year ago
Giezendanner4president! Schad isch de Brennwald nüme!
steitisch 1 year ago
The Germans do understand Swiss/German. It's like comparing American English to British English.
TheLizardKing1967 1 year ago
@TheLizardKing1967 - hahahahahah omg why would you say that? ( Swiss-German ' vilicht du hesch keis ziit ' - German - ' Vielleicht du hast keine zeit ' - English ' maybe you have no time ' (PLEASE PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF ' AMERICAN ENGLISH - oh and by the way I am Australian - Swiss
nurvek2 1 year ago
@TheLizardKing1967 I think it's more like comparing English to Scots - cos there are all sorts of weird dialect words as well! I was just in Zurich, I love the word 'Gruetzie' :)
LizTiddington 1 year ago 9
@LizTiddington
That's a fair comparison.
DavidAlanRogers 4 months ago
@TheLizardKing1967 no they don't! I've met a lot of germans who think they understand swiss german. but once I start talking to them in Swiss German they don't understand a word...
NZSFDC 1 day ago
The bald guy is speaking in the Bernese dialect while the woman is talking in the Zurich dialect. And as said before the gux with the glasses at 0:52 is speaking with a French accent while the first guy is speaking High German (from the north of Germany probably). And the interviewer (the guy in charge of everything) is speaking High German with a Swiss German accent.
Kreloar 1 year ago
Hey, question:
What's the debate about??? Just wondering.... :D
dasmysteryman12 1 year ago
@dasmysteryman12 It's so boring that even though I understand everything I forget it after a few seconds. It's really nothing interesting.
Kreloar 1 year ago
man I can't understand this swiss dude at all! and I speak German
EdwarDixie 1 year ago
i wonder why could they comprehend others german if they use different accent. swiss german is a bit "frenchized"
inno1980 1 year ago
I don't know any German so forgive me for my ignorance but where does the Pennsylvania Dutch derive? The Amish speak some form of old German and was wondering what part of the German speaking world they came from and if the language is more related to the Swiss German or regular German.
georgio941 1 year ago
@georgio941 I come from a long line of PA Dutch....it depends on where your PA Dutch ancestors came from.....some from Germany, some from Switzerland also some French.....mine came from both Switzerland and Germany (more swiss than anything). The language itself is simply called Pennsylvania Dutch or Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch. :)
missinugianna 1 year ago
too be honest i understand a swiss germans hoch deutch better than a germans german. the german have a way of changing the sound of some words and the ch. i just personally find the swiss germans speak a very basic clear german when they speak hoch deutch.
poonageproductions 1 year ago
@reymysteriocookie Tut mir leid, ich bin nict ein Nazi.
apologeticsman 1 year ago
wow, I couldn't understand a word the bald guy spoke
apologeticsman 1 year ago
@apologeticsman i understand only "zehn perzent")))))
vitacit 1 year ago
In der Tat verstehe ich die Frau als Zürcher perfekt, sie spricht Zürichdeutsch.
Kreloar 1 year ago
Das Problem ist, dass das was sie sagen so langweilig ist, dass ich es fast nicht verstehen will. Der Glatzkopf ist für mich als Zürcher eher schwierieger zu verstehen.
Kreloar 1 year ago
@reymysteriocookie Ich hoff du bisch kein Scheizer sonder en Schwiizer, häsch wohl das w vergässe. Passiert ab und zue.
Kreloar 1 year ago
Der Alte (der Schweizerdeutsch sprichtt) erinnert mich an meinem Gitarrenlehrer, der redet auch so, fast mit der gleichen Stimme! Irgendwie ist das wohl ein Kontrast zwischen einem Norddeutschen, einen Welschschweizer (französischsprechend) und einem Schweizer der versucht Hochdeutsch mit dem Deutschen zu reden. Also ein einziges Mischmasch.
Kreloar 1 year ago
Sehr interessantes Video, vom sprachlichen Standpunkt her. - Man muss sich nur immer zwingen, nicht auf den Inhalt zu achten. Wenn ich Politiker höre, muss ich mich immer ärgern! Aber die Dialekte hört man sehr gut.
prilstrudel 1 year ago
german swiss remind a bit Flemish from region of antwerpen Cheers. very intresting german dialect.
Claviculax 1 year ago
To be more specific about the differences in the dialects:
- The guy speaking at the very beginning, 0:01, is speaking perfectly accented German.
- The presenter, 0:44, is speaking proper German but with a Swiss accent.
- The bald guy speaking at 1:51 is speaking in heavy Swiss dialect, of the type usually spoken on an everyday basis in the German speaking cantons of Switzerland.
Silverfire321 1 year ago 51
@Silverfire321 the first guy is from germany he speaks "germany" german! the secont guy is from switzerland and speaks "germany" german with an accent (of course) the third guy speaks SWISS GERMAN which is totally different from "germany" german!
CsDeathshadow 1 year ago 2
@Silverfire321
the 0:44 one ist from the french part of switzerland...
so he speaks german with a french accent ;D
the switzerland have 4 national lang's.
And I'm proud of that ^^
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liansette 1 year ago
@Silverfire321: The guy at 1:51 comes from the Aargau, an area pretty close to Zurich. There are lots of differences between swiss german dialects. People in Bern, Basel or other parts speak differently than this guy. There's no "real" swiss german dialect!
liansette 1 year ago
Swiss German is so beautiful >_< It sounds really musical, and thanks @Silverfire321 for the explaination :)
YouStoleMyTube 10 months ago
@Silverfire321
The guy at the beginning is the former german (!) minister of finances, Hans Eichel.
HesseJamez 5 months ago
WAS? Ich habe der man aus Der Schweiz nicht verstanden!!
pandy445 1 year ago
Swiss german resembles so much swedish!! phonologicaly speaking...
Jow45metal 1 year ago
well more like the guy on the far left
matineesuxxx 1 year ago
god i cant understand a word the swiss guy says haha
matineesuxxx 1 year ago
schweizerdeutch in the Bern canton is a language I would like to study before I ever bother to learn standard German, not only to honor some of my ancestors and distant cousins who speak it, but just to piss off all the Krauts and Austrian immigrants in America who are buttsore because they never conquered Switzlerland.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
Well, it's not really possible to study Swiss German since it's basically a German dialect.
DefCur 1 year ago
@DefCur Yeah I guess I'd have to live in Switzerland.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
@spiralcosmosart Yes, you would. Because there's no formal written language. Evrything's based on High German. In Zürich there's a Swiss German course for German speakers but I'm afraid it's only about the dialect spoken in Zürich. Well, Swiss German is the official spoken language. High German is only used in written communication and some radio, tv programmes. You can speak High German everywhere, although most of the Swiss people don't appreciate it, they'll be polite to you.
magnusgnarus 1 year ago
@magnusgnarus I would think they'd would prefer a genuine effort to learnt their traditional language rather than deal with another American tourist who can only communicate with them in English.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
Well, someone has to be pretty much full of shit and/or on the political nationalistic site to get pissed off by that. Besides, i don't quite get to what historic events you are referring(medieval times maybe?).
fastLupus 1 year ago
I think there's still a resentment by Austrians and Germans from World War 2 and fair number of Nazis who never got to cash in on the Jewish gold they looted that Switzerland hoarded for them.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
@spiralcosmosart Ah ok i see. We are talking about Neonazis. It's save to assume that this people represent a very small fraction of a countries population and nobody should care what this retarded shitheads think. In regards to the rest of the population; jewish gold in switzerland is no matter of concern whatsoever. It seems the biggest issue here is the image problem for the swiss themselfs. ok by
fastLupus 1 year ago
Switzerland remaining unscathed while the neighbors are bombed divided and rebuilt carries a multi-generational resentment. and prejudice. Extreme prejudices still goes on in America between the North and South from a civil war that ended in 1865. Are you German? Are there ever stereotypes and tensions with the Swiss or not?
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
@spiralcosmosart I'm austrian and can only speak from within my own perspective. Are there stereotypes? Of course they are, like every country has their own set. But i can't see a general tension between Switzerland and its (german speaking) neighbours. If there is one i have missed it for 25 years and i doubt this is the case.
Well so long and by.
fastLupus 1 year ago
@spiralcosmosart
you would piss yourself off you f*ckin' racist. swiss, austrians and germans have all the same roots so you can say that swiss are german as well! damn bismarck shouldve annected us years ago, and fuck the romands!
0LuckyInternetUser0 1 year ago
@0LuckyInternetUser0 I'm guilty as charged. I guess this little banter I started is all kind of a little self serving identity investigation crisis and coping mechanism, but then again we're all kind of all one family of the human race aren't we? Still I'm proud that the Swiss were well organized and patriotic enough from going as Nazi as Austria and Germany. I'm also proud of the original Swiss Rebellion against the Hapsburg dynasty.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
@spiralcosmosart
Yeah Will Tell but that has nothing to do with Nazis and that Hitler dumbass.
What Im trying to tell ya is that we are still Germans no matter what!
0LuckyInternetUser0 1 year ago
ab 1:38 versteh ich gar nix mehr!
frenzaldude 1 year ago
I feel bad for the native French speaker who is speaking Hochdeutsch - the rest fall into different dialects of Swiss German. I'd be so confused.
Valicore 1 year ago
bahahahahha viele lustig schweizerdeutch ist
cmr1020 1 year ago
Swiss German sounds almost Scandinavian.
tsartodd 2 years ago 23
@tsartodd No wonder most people confuse Switzerland with Sweden.
dasmysteryman12 1 year ago
@tsartodd
yes,i agree with you!i think swish german sounds very much like dutch and swedish,thats why i think after german to learn dutch :)
dadaras12 1 year ago 2
@tsartodd no.
sofieapp1 1 year ago
@tsartodd first of all, scandinavian is not a language (there is swedish, danish, norwegian and depending on your definition of scandinavia also finnish) and really? if you had ever heard them both, you would know they don't have more in common then french and italian do.... (and I should know as I am bilingual and speak both swedish and swiss german perfectly.....)
blkSofia 10 months ago
Getting a bit worried here. I'm going to attend ETH Zurich this year and i was hoping to learn alot of standard German. Do people speak standard German on a day to day basis in Zurich?
paulgallagher13 2 years ago
Sorry, no, no Swiss speaks standard german, except in school (during class, not with friends)
USI1993 2 years ago
Everyone knows Standard German (Hochdeutsch), but it isn't what they speak with each other on a day to day basis. In non-school situations it is pretty much always Swiss German (Alemannic Dialects)
Valicore 1 year ago
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fuck all germans!!!!
Stay in your country your fucking crauts..
switzerland rocks
evilfalseprophet 2 years ago
you are absolutely right ..... NOT!!!!!!!!
MisterDee90 2 years ago
@evilfalseprophet
Wow, I know people say that you Swiss are neutral, but fuck!
max2000warrior 2 years ago
We want our stolen tax back! Oil for tax! If they dont stop the tax stealing than we schould stop oil transports to the swiss.
efg36 2 years ago
usaiscollapsing = Idiot!
Roli8Boy 2 years ago
Switzerland is the biggest financial criminal in the world, and Deutschland is doing the right thing by crushing Shittzerland banking secrecy and bankrupting the shitty swiss banks once and for all.
Heil Deutschland! Fuck Schweiz!
usaiscollapsing 2 years ago
Yeah, buying stolen data is great and will solve all problems.
lkjkorn19 2 years ago
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Waaah, waaah, cry like a baby you pathetic swiss coward! Truth is everyone hates your guts -- EU, US, even China, and now all of them are going to kick the shit out of your pathetic banking system! Your economy is finished! Say goodbye Shittzerland! Heil Deutschland forever!
usaiscollapsing 2 years ago
@usaiscollapsing
It wasnt very cowardly to stand up and outlaw the building of new minarets. That took brass balls!
max2000warrior 2 years ago
Oh yeah, and Germany will take its place? I guess the reason the US is collapsing is that we have 100,000 troops still in Germany from when we kicked your ass the second time, you know World War II?
Valicore 1 year ago
@usaiscollapsing I bet 1000$ you have no Fucking Idea of what your talking abou!! would you be so kind and explain to me what exactly the bank secrecy is?
and again FUCK the USA and yes it is colapsing NOT like switzerland!!
hahahaha
Emu1gmx 2 years ago
@usaiscollapsing what about the CAYMAN ISLANDS and all the other places? Everybody talk about Switzerland... HYPOCRITES!
VampireReia 1 year ago
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Fuck Switzerland!
I am so happy that Germany is going to receive the names of the people who hide their money in Shittzerland, so swiss banks are going to be fucked in the ass once everyone moves their money out of that joke of a country!
Heil Deutschland! Hitler should have carpet-bombed Shittzerland to dust!
usaiscollapsing 2 years ago
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radulml1 2 years ago
Part 1/3
Hello from Switzerland,
However, I don't flout your country :-)
I hope you understand German: In der Bevölkerung hier wird über die Tatsache diskutiert ob ein Staat, in diesem Fall Deutschland, eigene Rechte und Prinzipe der Gesetzgebung brechen kann um an die Gerechtigkeit zu kommen. Dass ist die Hauptfrage, meines erachtens nach.
radulml1 2 years ago
Part 2/3 Kriminelle, in Finanzdelikten überwiegend Reiche, verletzen die Regeln überall auf der Welt. Man muss in der Praxis funktionierende Gesetzesänderungen vornehmen um solchen auf die Schliche zu kommen. Die Person(en) welche diese Daten-CD an Deutschland für viel G E L D zu verkau versucht macht sich sehr strafbar. Zumindest in einem Rechtsstaat ;-) Diese Person ist nicht mehr und nicht weniger kriminell wie die a r m e n Steuerflüchtlingen.
radulml1 2 years ago
Part 3/3
Der Fall währe ganz anders, hätte die Person mit moralischen Hintergrund gehandelt. Dass heisst, aus reinem Gewissen Mitmenschen gegenüber und nicht aus finanziellem Profit.
radulml1 2 years ago
@usaiscollapsing you fucking tard!!! at least you know where your place is!! Fuck the USA and yes it is Colapsing NOT like Switzerland!!!
Emu1gmx 2 years ago
@Emu1gmx the whole world is collapsing... including switzerland. some countries just collaps at a lower pace
VampireReia 1 year ago
@VampireReia you like to think negativ ;) donno if the whole world but the western part is! but what is it exactly?? because its not just the economie... I think we are losing everywhere! like people are actually getting dumber! knowing about problems but not careing!? seeing how stuff gows wrong but doing nothing against it! what is wrong with this world??
Emu1gmx 1 year ago
@usaiscollapsing you seem like a really jealous person :-P
VampireReia 1 year ago
Deutsche und Schweizer sollten sich eigentlich vertragen !
K1nd3rschr3ck 2 years ago
Pangermanischer Witz: Deutsche und Schweizer sind sich sehr ähnlich, Allerdings sind die Schweizer die besseren Deutschen und darum nennen sie sich nicht mehr so...
ulizinho 2 years ago
ich liäb euses schwizerdütsch und all dialekt und so schwer zverstah ischs nöd en dütsche wo abundzue mal ide schwiiz isch unds vill ghört de gwöhnt sich schnell drah und verstahts denn au.
i love our swiss german and all the dialects, and its not that hard to understand for germans, if they are here 1,2 times they will understand it.
ich habe einige deutsche bekanntschaften auf verschiednsten orten deutschlands und inzwischen verstehen alle schwizerdütsch
1990anibas 2 years ago
sn nein das ist kein walliser dialekt walliser deutsch würde hier niemand verstehn ausser ich, ich bin walliser ,der rest fressehalten scheiss neider ENGLAND NOOBS
paffmatti 2 years ago
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already lived there, you dumb swiss bitch. Hate your land of banks, overpriced hotels and shit, soulless, poor excuses for human beings. Why don't YOU write in german. Oh that's right, you can't, because you only speak your shit dialect of having 3 cocks in your mouth at the same time and would never understand the educated REAL german.
usaiscollapsing 2 years ago
haha
i´m from southern germany and i can understand some swiss dialects
there are dialects, for example near bern, that nobody from for example from Thurgau could understand ^^
dergrosserobini 2 years ago
yeah i dont speak german but i am learning it, i can see how its different.
tstokemb 2 years ago
das stimmt nicht. die berner die verstehn alle und die thurgauer ebenfalls.. der einzige dialekt den man gar nicht versteht ist der walliser dialekt...
1990anibas 2 years ago
wie du meinst
dergrosserobini 2 years ago
but you need to know that in germany we have like dozens of different dialects...so, for a northern german it is more difficult to understand swiss german than for a guy from southern germany...
skiegiek 2 years ago
i am from northern germany and when i hear a swiss guy i can understand it a bit but when he speaks fast it is like a different language for me...^^
the swiss have a much harder "CH" sound for example...
skiegiek 2 years ago 9
ja aber deutschen dielaket verstehen wir schweizer auch nicht ^^
1990anibas 2 years ago
@1990anibas ja das kann sein...ich muss immer ein bissl lachen wenn ich im fernsehen leute aus bayern, baden-württemberg oder hessen oderso sehe, die so nen starken dialekt labern dass sie untertitelt werden müssen^^
ich wette ihr schwiitzer würden kein plattdeutsch verstehen oder?
skiegiek 2 years ago
Forgive me for writing in english, my german isn't good enough.
I have seen schwitzer deutsch subtitled (untertitelt) several times on 3Sat :)
ljuvefreya 2 years ago
@skiegiek
please,tell me that the guy that starts speaking in 1.40 doesnt speak swiss german,
it sounds more like he speaks dutch,really.im studying german and it sounds to me,like im studying a completely different language now :P
i knew that there are variations,but i hope that everyony sticks to hochdeutsch.
dadaras12 1 year ago
@dadaras12 yes the guy with the mustache at 1.40 speaks swiss german...dont worry...i dont understand this guy either and im german ^^
skiegiek 1 year ago
@skiegiek we have a similar issue in America when Jamaicans come to our country. The speak an English like language, but it is so full of slang and the accent is so strange most Americans can't understand them.
apologeticsman 1 year ago
@apologeticsman yes...all this crazy dialects....standart german (hochdeutsch) you will only find in certain areas in germany because allmost every corner of germany speaks a different dialect
skiegiek 1 year ago
@skiegiek
ok,i wont go for postgraduate studies or for anything in switzerland :P
but after this video,i would really like to learn dutch,believe it or not :P
dadaras12 1 year ago
@dadaras12 but you know that dutch and swiss german have no similarities^^ so if you like swiss german you shouldnt start to learn dutch ^^
if i were you i would learn standart german (hochdeutsch) cause if you can speak "hochdeutsch" you can understand a bit dutch too and a bit swiss german
skiegiek 1 year ago
@skiegiek i am studying hochdeutsch,i have completed the grundstuffe classes and
have b1 zertifikat diplom and now im getting prepared for mittelstufe and hopefully in one year and a half i will be qualified for deutsches kleines sprachdiplom,but
i would like to learn some dutch,because now dutch sound to me very relevant to swiss german :P :D
dadaras12 1 year ago
@dadaras12
gott, bitte hör auf die englische sprache so zu vergewltigen!!!!!!!!
SweatHeartSunny 1 year ago