Bach Cantata BWV 29 Harnoncourt

[littlegiant1972]

I am absolutely sure that Bach put always a smile in G-D's face with his great music.

[sarribel]

always thought this is going to be perfect for the soon to come Independence Day festivities in the ancient Kingdom of Navarre/Basque Country

[jonsaintgermain]

The Maestro. 

[xlollitox]

where can i buy a cd with this same identic song??

[TheGravicembalo]

@xlollitox eweriwhere,also on line..

[xlollitox]

@TheGravicembalo ok, thanks, this piece it's fantastic!

[petrusmalk]

This music cames from heaven.

[PEPEDEBARRO]

Gott ist Groß !!!

[YoungOrganist]

At 3:40 its the same music as in Mass in B Minor for 'Gratias agimus tibi proter' i think? :O:O

[kv310]

@YoungOrganist that's true

[dubyatf911]

@YoungOrganist He used that music both in the gratias and the concluding movement, Dona nobis pacem

[Nikioko]

@dubyatf911: yes, but Dona is normally a bit slower than Gratias or BWV 29/2



[Nachtmarchen]

@Nobilior The sound is fine, certainly preferable to the countless atrociously close-mic'd HIP recordings that seem to have skewed the expectations of listeners like reobsiabnibku. I was lucky enough to see one of the concerts that resulted in Harnoncourt's re-recording of this cantata, the sound of this recording (now many decades old) is quite realistic. As for anonymusum, the baroque ideal of "concertare" is obviously lost on him - this is not a Romantic concerto.

[douddy21]

Personnellement j'entends parfaitement l'orgue (surement un positif) qui accompagne de façon permanente l'ensemble. C'est d'ailleurs l'orgue qui tient la partie essentielle de l'oeuvre et on entends trés bien toutes ces modulations au dessus de l'orchestre. Mais il faute connaitre bien cette "sinfonia" pour suivre chaque partie.

[shakudorable]

Never knew that the Partita III in E, was re-used in a cantate : )

Nice!! Thanx for posting.

[Nobilior]

@Wolf3660

I know that

[AsianGuyInJeans]

The chorus after the sinfonia in this part of the cantata reminds me of the final chorus of Handel's Messiah.

[Nobilior]

@AsianGuyInJeans

Rather Gratias tibi agimus/Dona nobis pacem from Mass in b minor...

[anonymusum]

Bad balance - the organ is too much in the background - the trumpets are too loud and despite a pretty fast tempo it is not fluent - typical Harnoncourt.

[Nobilior]

@anonymusum

"Organ is too much in the background" - what a nonsense? What does it mean, "too much in the background"? I hear the organ articulately. Maybe You have some trouble with that...

[anonymusum]

@Nobilior

The organ has a significant solo but is half as loud as the trumpets that only play some typical accents. The organ leads through the piece most of the time and for that function she should be much louder. You better study the score before posting nonsense - but I guess you even can´t read notes.

[Nobilior]

@anonymusum

"I guess you even can´t read notes."

I guess You are a little arrogant, as the "secunda sorte" musicians - now and then - used to be.

[Nobilior]

@anonymusum

"The organ leads through the piece most of the time etc." Nous'en savons, Monsieur, your trivial remark is not necessary. But "leads throuhg the piece" doesn't mean "much louder"... You have very original understanding of the role of solo parts in the baroque music.

I can sufficiently hear the organ in all this piece, in no way "overwhelmed" by the trumpets. Maybe You need an extraordinary loudness to hear anything.

[anonymusum]

@Nobilior

Ok - my so called trivial hint just leads to a very simple ut most important question for all conductors: what is important? That´s not as trivial as you obviously think. -

But it is pretty useless to exchange opinions with music amateurs .....

[Nobilior]

@anonymusum

"Trivial" doesn't mean "not true" or "not important", it means "so evident that noticing it is not necessary". It's strange that "a professional musician" You are pretending to be has only such a trivial remark in answer. "What is important" - You have also such a "sophisticated" and "original" remarks concernig the interpretation of music, Maestro?

[reobsiabnibku]

@Nobilior Perhaps the fidelity on your computer is much superior to mine. I can barely hear the organ in the "background" in the sinfonia. I made an earlier comment about the sound engineering, but perhaps the problem here is a matter of computer hardware/reproduction.

[Nobilior]

@reobsiabnibku

PS. It is important to remark that Harnoncourt's conducting always is prepared and done above all for the living audience, not for recordings. Even if he doesn't make "a live recording", he is conducting or playing in the same manner like before the living audience. That's the cause, I think, that Harnoncourt's recordings seem to be less "smoothed" than recordings of many "stars" of early music.

[Nobilior]

@reobsiabnibku

I usually hear this recording on CD, not downloaded on youtube.

But You can be right, to some extent. There is not question, I suppose, of "poorly done engineering sound" in this particular recording, but of some default, some lack of rendering sound properly, in all nuances, and of some lack of what we can call "the spirit of performance", in recordings in general.

[reobsiabnibku]

@anonymusum yes, it appears the sound engineering was poorly done to record a proper balance. It was probably much better live.

[gratiaDei777]

Phenomenal!!

[paradoxicus]

La Sinfonia inicial,se sale de lo comun,pero todo este BMW 29 es maravilloso.Para mi,una de las mejores cantatas de Bach.

[MusicaRicercata]

@paradoxicus Sorry, but Bavarian Motorworks have nothing to do with Bach.

[TheGravicembalo]

@MusicaRicercata ???

[JupiterIV]

@TheGravicembalo Paradoxicus made a typo, and MusicaRicercata was just playing along with it. Instead of BWV. 29, Paradoxicus put down BMW 29.

[reobsiabnibku]

@MusicaRicercata haha

[bersa888]

Nice and crisp sinfonia!

[harpsichordRB]

Beautiful Bach!

Thanks!