Only time will tell about what the results will be for health care reform, we've heard the praises and the scary stories. But soon this will be a part of our everyday lives when it kicks into effect
Let us never forget Mary Jo Kopechne and the cowardly drunken Ted Kennedy who ended her life when she was only 29 years old. Ted Kennedy destroyed the life of his first wife because of his immoral drunken behavior. Ted Kennedy is now where he belongs rotting in the grave.
Poor Byrd...Gore-ed by a Horny Beast called Liberalism. May his asbestos underwear never singe, get a redish tinge, now that he is re-united with old Ted, the swimmer of Chappaquaddick. Let's celebrate Mary Jo Kapeche Day for her July 19 sacrifice which saved the USA from early demise in 1969! Ted knew if the Tan Tax did not get 'em them the Cap and Tax will.
Obamacare was signed on March 2010 with 59% of the people disapproving according to a CNN poll. The CBO scored Obamacare on six years of coverage for 10 years of taxes, which is how the CBO showed the bill to be deficit neutral . It’s unconstitutional mandating all citizens to purchase health care. Even Pelosi said, “We have to pass the bill, so you can find out what is in it.” watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To It’s also meant to take over industry watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
Rest in peace, Ted, with your mother and brothers and father. Your family lived the admonition of St. Mark: To those whom much has been given, much will be expected." God bless you, Senator. I know you are watching from Paradise
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Just as those people back in 61' voted against and thaught medicare would bring STALINISM and COMUNISM into the U.S.
they are making crazy assumptions now. and it's funny how those people who were so aggainst it then are benefitting from it now. REPUBLICANS you have been served. Good day to us all.
Self-loathing, well-fed American women are in plenitude as Obama really makes a person think...about installing a urinal in the garage. TED KENNEDY WAS BEHIND THE CRIMINALIZING OF LAETRILE: the cure, preventative & treatment for the chronic metabolic disease known as cancer. He's maggot meat now. Let us support tax-funded abortions upon all Kennedys.
Without making a complete jackass of ourselves and getting unnecessarily politicized here are a few simple Qs we can ask ourselves: 1. Do I want renewable energy? 2. Do I want to be bullied/abused by cred. card or cell companies etc via fine prints 3. Do I want affordable education? And most importantly 4. Do I want affordable healthcare? I think it's worth to sit back and think about it a few mins..
Ameritards, in general, are one of the most undisciplined when it comes to leading a healthy lifestyle. I see so many people every day who are basically immobile, the sole reason appears to be they are FATBUCKETS. Also the amount of people in this country who abuse drugs/alcohol/food, has to be one of the highest in the world. Maybe the government should encourage insurance companies to give BIG discounts to their insured clients, for meeting certain health markers (weight, bp, nonsmoker,etc).
well den da freeloaders like me will git all da good life when all dat redistributin kicks in...i be wait fo da REDISTRIBUTIN you paychecks to me an mine...blomadon be keep his promise man...its time to start gibben up awl da money man....start gibben it up ...it all be worf it man,,,,all be worf it....
A Tea Bager taking Kennedy's place in the Senate is a cruel joke. For a man who championed universal coverage for all Americans, it is truly despicable.
@mmf257 Kennefy tea bagged Mary Jo then got drunk killed her in a car accident and got off with free,..then helped his nephew get off a rape charge.maybe he can tea bag you..F Teddy
I wish this fat fucking murdering shabbos goy had died 45 years earlier. What a fucking piece of shit scumbag traitor this fuck was. I hope he is rotting in dante's 9th circle right now watching what happened to his fucking chair.
I maintain that the democratic (communist) party is the party of malevolent envy. An amalgam of nation wrecking misfits (jews, blacks, sodomites, baby killers, transgenders). Low lives with no respect for property or natural law.
Ted also had a solution for bailing out the unions in the auto industry but it was called "cash for kerplunkers".
Sounds great, give everyone Ted's blue chip health care coverage but how will it be paid for? If health care is a right, isn't a roof over your head also a right? Shouldn't big government subsidize a house for anyone and everyone who wants one? Oh, we tried that already?
No one in this country is denied care, from the illegal immigrant Ted invited to invade up to Ted himself.
I love this video. I want to use it in my show trying to find out how to go about doing so. It is the best speech on health care he has done I trhink.
Healthcare SHOULD be UNIVERSAL and a RIGHT of every American. This is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. Let's get this RIGHT. Whatever his failings, Kennedy spoke right about this issue.
I agree health care should be a human right. Everyone deserves health care. We care about the babies before they are born and then once they are born no one cares anymore. We don't take care of our people once they are here we ignore them the ones that need help the most. I am tired of our country's selfish ways. We need to take a stand and bring america back before it goes down the drain.
This comment vastly underscores your inability to understand the healthcare problem in this nation. Simply having a job does not provide an individual with care.
I understand, but we don't need to be like Sweden. However we need to fix our current system as it costs us more of our GDP than Sweden or any other nation, and in the end 30-40 million Americans ( not illegals) go uninsured. What is the benefit of such a system? The status quo is simply not the answer.
I reject the notion that a well funded government system can't work. The World Health organization has listed all the top health care systems in the world and we are nowhere to be found on the top 30! If our realization to this painful fact continues to slowed by such rhetoric, people will continue to go bankrupt in this nation for their medical expenses. You know that is the number one reason people go bankrupt in this nation.
Look I think the problem is considerably plainer than how you're painting it. Statistically it is a fact that the number one reason that middle class Americans declare bankruptcy is due to medical expenses. This week as Blue Cross and Blue shield are announcing 39% increases on premiums while reporting record earnings, fewer Americans can afford coverage. The Federal budget can't support Medicare and Social Security on its current trajectory and therefore reform is paramount.
I don't understand the phrase "government takeover" or "socialized medicine" as it applies to this legislation. In the end we will have a moderate bill that simply prevents health insurance companies for denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing conditions and largely reduce our deficit. Why would anyone oppose those measures? I just doesn't make any sense. I thank you for your prior service!!!
You're right, I don't understand exactly how it will reduce the deficit. Yet the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says it definitively will. I don't doubt their math. Reform needs to happen for all the right reasons and if we have to do it while the Tea party kicks and screams, so be it.
Well I'm sincerely trying to understand your train of thought on this issue. The CBO is not political so neither party disputes the figures on a political premise. I understand that you're displeased with the state of affairs as they currently stand. But we can't tackle our problems unless we are willing to admit that they exist in the first place.
I want America to resume its former standing among nations and I believe the way back is to rebuild our middle class through serious health care reform.
Health reform is NOT tort reform. Out of all the money spent on health care, only a fraction is attributed to legal expenses. Providing affordable coverage for the millions of Americans does not equal tort reform. It simply will not bring costs down for the average consumer.
@castletriglav What about the people who have jobs but cant get health care because of pre exisiting condition? Or they are too old and they might be able to get coverage but its too expensive?
@MarcCools1964 the people who will get the bill will the be the fat asses who let themselves weigh 400 pounds and the dicks who make the choice to smoke and those who chose to live unhealthy lives.
@WILLIAMCOOKE Spoken like a true idiotic teen who has mommy and daddy paying all of his bills. When you get a job and have to fork over your tax money to welfare trash, you'll feel differently.
@WILLIAMCOOKE ol foolish man--americas founders warned us amout people like you-- your view does not set well with the american people, we are not a socialist country, it will never work--americans like myself are awake to you and obummers socialist plans--and we wont let america fall--the tea party movement is what america needs right now, one seat at a time--we the people
lets defend him and make him seem like a good person right?????? ted was a piece of shit who wanted everyones money to go to the lazyfucks who depend on him the dem's. fuck this guy he was part of the problem with america getting fuckin people to depend on the government. the more you depend on them the more power they have. he lived by that. think about it for a minute ass holes.
this man should have learned about preventative medicine. way way way way way back in the day they believed that cancer was a death sentence, and this man took this belief for many years, and he turned the whole thing into a money thing. if every single diner in Boston and worcester MA. would serve wheat gluten steaks and smoked soy patties with their cabbage, potatoes, instead of corned beef every st. patty's day with enough fruit and vegetables, this illnes would be eradicated by 2020.
this man was always getting drunk, and I believe it took a toll on his health, and all of this is really about guilt. Instead of all this drinking beer, and shots of brandy and rum and tequilla, he should have been drinking one glass of resveratrol red wine every night and then two cups of black coffee before driving
guess what, most employers are going to drop coverage next year because of this. why should they cover employees if they see the gov is going to. duh, my wifes company has already told them they are dropping healthcare as of jan 1st because of all of this. we are fools to think gov can do anything but f it up. many of the companies here are already planning to drop insurance or reduce it drastically. great christmas present you retards in washington. oh yes you guys are not on this plan cowards
THE current bill is not the answer ,,,does not address proper Tort Reform, "undocumented" access for expensive non-life threatening HC , & does not provide MOST IMPORTANTLY an OPT OUT Provision for those that believe it is still too bloated with waste & inefficiencies resulting in inflated premiums not in keeping with services provided.
....A mandate stuffed inside a trojan horse bill for HC is a skunk in the road...too stupid to debate...
Hey Wake up! A STRUGGLING mom, dad, two kids...WILL SHELL OUT TO OBAMACARE'----""'DONATION"" for HC $16,000/Year---or equal to BRANDY NEW LOADED TOYOTA YARIS each year--out the window..
Get ready to exodus the country during the REPEAL process will take 5 years to complete worst case scenario..
He killed someone you dipshit. And if you defend him your too fucked up for me to deal with. I might as well go talk to the wall.Ted Kennedy has killed a woman in 1969 drove his car off a bridge and the woman drowned .And he got away with it.Like O.J. accept he was just a drunk with a little bit of power.
That? well shit, I didnt think I could think any more poorly of you, but here we are. accidentally killing one of your friends (almost killing yourself in the process) is bad enough, I doubt you would say the same thing in real life: internet tough guy.
Ha Ha your a fuckin puppet..Go jerk off and hang yourself.. I've got shit to do.Go get the facts do a llittle research than you'll know what a fucktard you sound like.Then go find a mirror..stand in front of it and slap yourself in the face...now, see how stupid you look...that's how it would be if i was standing in front of you.
with O.J. it was in between capital murder and second degree murder, could go in either direction and he was aquitted. With Kennedy it was negligent vehicular manslaughter, two different charges.
On the right to health care, it may not be in the constitution as clearly as you'd like it, but the United States Declaration of Independence, which was adopted by the Second Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, reads:
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The confusion here stems from two very different concepts, positive rights and negative rights. Our Constitution generally protects negative rights. It prevents you from being harmed (by the gov't) when you try to attain something for yourself. A positive right would be something that must be provided to you. In our system, those are limited to the aspects of due process afforded to someone the state is seeking to deprive of life or liberty - trial by jury, counsel, speedy trial, etc...
Wow, I dont like Democrats or liberals either. But he is right in saying everyone has the right to health care. And calling him a commie, and a fat pig, just makes people like you look like the enemy.
Now what you should have said is. "I disagree with this man, People should earn there health care, support there own family's and lives. Because no man should have to pay his government to take care of his neighbors"
Everyone doesn't have a RIGHT to healthcare....where is that right in our Constitution...? Where and when did our Founding Fathers even remotely address this right to healthcare? i missed it....
You are required to have auto insurance and that wasn't in the constitution. There are a lot of things we have today that were not in the constitution. The constitution does allow for HC for all if congress votes it in. It's simply the right thing to do. WWJD?
Quixote1818: WWJD? He would stand up and turn over the tables on these government officials, who are usurping authority the Constitution never intended them to have.....
So conservatives accuse us of being Nazis trying to euthanize people. However, they then turn around and deny people medical aid because they are "lazy" or whatever mastubatory excuse they think up. Hmmm kind of sounds like killing off undesirables to me...
The fact of the matter is that people who need healthcare either aren't covered, or their coverage is more or less USELESS (aka a fraud). This is a RIGHT vs. WRONG issue period.
Ted Kennedy, one of the few with the courage to attempt to break the Insurance and Pharamaceutical industries' monopolies on U.S. healthcare.
We can and must have a government-run insurance plan alongside private insurance -- mostly premium-based, with subsidies for low-and-moderate income people. Open to all individuals and employees who want to join and with everyone free to choose the doctors we want.
Exactly how does an 'industry' have a monopoly on an 'industry'? There are dozens, if not hundreds of health insurance providers and more than a few pharmaceutical manufacturers competing in the marketplace. Do you even know what a monopoly is?
No matter how you cut it...we have a responsibility to one another. We have when it comes to war when we stand together. It comes when someone is hungry or sick. We have the responsibility to take care of one another as human beings. Greed has always stood in the way of mankind and its time it stopped. Have a nice day. Support public option for all.
Thank you for sharing this video - universal comprehensive coverage is what the Obama administration should be working for right now. Stay on this message, Mr Obama; enough with the family vacations already. Time to get back to work on this. And may TMK rest in peace, let his dream come true: health care as a right, not a privilege.
Sure, but pls explain first what you refer to in "fruit of another person's labor"? All I am saying is, America should live to its ideals by constantly striving to do better, and this time, it should be "Liberty, Justice and Medicare for all".
Health care is a service that is provided by other people. If you say that health care is a right, you are saying that you have a right to those services.
You could argue that a doctor or trained medical professional has a moral or even legal obligation to provide first aid and emergency treatment to save a life or limb but that is a far cry from saying that person is also obligated to give you an annual physical or clear up your rash.
Well since you ask . . . while it being a "right" is perhaps debatable, the concept is, since no one in the middle class can afford the cost of catastrophic health care, eg. being hit by a bus would bankrupt most people if health care were done as a "pay-as-you-go" basis, same for cancer and any number of maladies, insurance is needed. The next question then asks how you provide this insurance. And the following question asks if it's best with or without profit for the middle-man.
Given that there are a number of not for profit health insurance companies, Kaiser and most BC/BS systems, and the profit margin for the others is relatively small at 3-4%, I am not sure profit vs non-profit has much to do with the issue.
True enough. All I can say I suppose is that HMO profits are in the billions, siphoning off needed funds. The US unfortunately spends far too much money on health admin. While gum, running shoes, guns and cabbages are best produced by private enterprise, police, national defense, water, electricity and health care are best provided when *we the people* under the collective known as government, act to have these services provided for us directly. This works quite well in Japan, Canada, Europe etc
Most insurance companies offer a range of plans from HMO's to PPO's so I do not know what you mean by saying "HMO profits are in the billions." Health insurance is NOT a very profitable business.
Where do you live that water and electricity are government provided?
What evidence do you have "this" works well in Canada, Japan, or Europe?
Public utilities have a long history in many countries, including the US. Ask Californians about public utilities vs Enron. :-)
HMO profits in the billions means that billions of dollars are being siphoned away from actually putting the money to work.
For evidence, pick your stat really. Cost, access, mortality. Remembering that the US is the richest country in the world, it is 38th in infant mortality. It's behind Costa Rica! Why do Canadians on average live 2 years longer than Americans?
HMO's are a specific type of insurance plan, not an insurance company. One of the largest providers of HMO's is Kaiser and they are non-profit. Also, your assertion that profits equate to money siphoned away and not put to work shows an amazing ignorance of how capital works
Life expectancy is a fairly meaningless measure in this discussion as there are so many factors that contribute to it.
In an ideal world I'd love to believe that profits are all used for *optimal* upgrades of medical technology, but:
Steve Wiggins, CEO, Oxford Health Plans, Inc., $29,061,599
Wilson Taylor, Chairman and CEO, CIGNA Corporation, $11,568,410
That's pretty good eh.
As for cancer, if you are an "average joe", you are far better off, far better off, being Canadian if cancer is your unfortunate destiny. Because you will be treated.
Longevity is but one stat. All-telling? No. Meaningless? No.
Unless you are a shareholder in either Oxford or CIGNA, I fail to see how their employees are compensated is any concern of yours. The last I checked, our gov't CEO got a free mansion, a fleet of 747's, some helicopters, a few limos, and a personal security detail all costing 100's of millions of dollars a year.
Cancer survival rates in the US exceed those in Canada by a wide margin. When you get sick, you want the best care. That care is in the US.
And you're right. And yet mortality rates for cancer between Canada and the US run neck and neck. The issue is not quality but access and cost. US hospitals (for those who can afford it) provide excellent care. However, when looking at *all* Americans, access is part of quality and for "average joe", you're better off getting care where you can be treated. In all advanced countries but the US, no one goes broke for need of cancer treatment. Helping middle class Americans is good for us all.
Mortality rates for cancer between the US and Canada DO NOT run neck and neck. Breast cancer mortality is 9% higher in Canada, prostate cancer is 184% higher, and colon cancer is 10% higher.
Removing the cap on insurance coverage, set by law would do a lot to prevent people from going broke from cancer treatment.
The fact is that the vast majority of Americans have coverage and are satisfied with their coverage.
No one is helped by a gov't program that bankrupts us.
I agree with your last statement. As for cancer mortality rates according to stats I've seen, OECD 2004, top 16 countries for cancer mortality, Holland is number 1 with 433 deaths per 100,000. The US is 9th with 321.9 per 100,000, then Australia - 298.9, Norway - 289.4, France - 286.1. Canada's not on the list. Your assertion is not supported in this set of data.
Satisfaction is much lower amongst people who have actually had to make claims.
Your statistics you cite are not for cancer mortality but for deaths from cancer. Those are two different things. The stats you cite reflect the incidence of cancer in a specific country, not the chance of survival once cancer is diagnosed. The US leads the world in survival rates for most forms of cancer.
Points taken and agreed. However the elephant in the room remains access to health care. Surely America is not such a selfish country that it believes those without money deserve to die sooner than those with money. Millions are without insurance and these "poor" are not just the "street drunks". More often they are the working poor, people who, perhaps uneducated, are hard working, work two jobs to get by and often go to the grave before their time. They deserve better.
No one denies that some people have problems accessing health care in the US. The problem is how to solve the problem. Kennedy believed that this problem (as just about every problem he ever encountered except a certain car accident) required greater government involvement. Many others believe just the opposite.
You "believe that is a lie"? How so? How exactly can healthcare be sustainable if you are continually taking more money out than you are putting in? What is it that the US government is going to do better with universal healthcare than they do with Medicare which is already $36 TRILLION in the hole? How on earth is healthcare a BASIC RIGHT? Is it more basic than food and shelter? Because we have hungry and homeless people. Why aren't you clamoring for that? I'm also glad you aren't a citizen.
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I am so glad that this slobbering imbecile piece of dung is now dead....This murdering, baby killing bastard is finally been rendered unable of sodomizing the american people....May he rot in hell for all eternity...The most disgusting creature to ever swim in the polluted waters of the chappaquiddick was in fact this fat bastard...I hope you died miserably Teddy...Wish I could see you fry in hell.
We have the largest economy in the world, but we also have the third most people in the world. We also have the best acute care in the world and the best innovation in the world. People around the world come to the US for life-saving treatment. Nothing in this world is free - and if you try to shape the US healthcare system to mimic another system the world will lose all of its benefits. Socialized healthcare is like communism, good in theory, but unsustainable in reality.
Well universal care is too expensive, and unfair to those who actually care to produce in society. But who is calling Ted a SOB for fighting for it? I think they are calling Ted an SOB for killing a girl in 1969.
The US isn't Norway, we can't afford to fund the healthcare of half the population. We don't sit on oil.
Ted Kennedy, Thank you so much for fighting for universal healthcare for people in the United States, and your emotional eloquence while doing so. I am going to miss you so much...may God bless you. I love you.
Clearly Ted didn't really care about her. He let her die. How's it feel to support someone who allowed a young woman to suffocate so he could go get his alibi on?
I had nothing to do with it, so don't try to pull me in it, and I do not support Ted's actions at the time. A lot of this garbage is straight up political, and you know it. Mary Jo is being used as an excuse, b/c people stick with and defend those in their political party. No, a lot of the very people who keep bringing her up do not care at all about that girl. They just don't like Ted Kennedy. Her name is being used only.
This people are amazingly brilliant. They fought to expand slavery, oposed integration of freed slaves, delayed their civil rights, and managed to blame Republicans for all of it and take credit for all the good racial matters AFTER they relized blacks were helping Reps win elections. Dems will sell their mother for power, just like the fascists and communist elites.
Will Congress commit to give up their special med plan for their own ligislation imposed on US?
Agreed. However, even if we withdrew into our borders we still couldn't afford a government healthcare system. Anyone who supports government healthcare supports bankrupting the USA.
OFFGentTOTT- You need a good education you are correct you didnt go to yale but sir did you even graduate elementary school ? GWB is the whole reason we are in the mess we are in today. People like Ted Kennedey , well there really is know one like Ted. He fought for working families and the common folk. He fought for univ hc, civil rights, and education oh and don't forget min wage increases on every opportunity. He is one of a kind and we owe him much thanks.
GWB is the entire reason we are in the mess we are in today? Are you serious? Is he the Fed? Is he the rating agencies? Is he Fannie/Feddie? Is he the CRA? Is he Chris Dodd or Barney Frank? Is he the American consumer? I can't believe you are questioning my education.
GWB was responsible for putting responsible people in the position's of protecting the American taxpayer... This was not the case in the Wall St. Meltdown and housing crisis.
Are you a moron or are you being serious? And if you are concerned about protecting the American taxpayer, surely you must be livid over the pathetic job BHO is doing, right? Or are you just a partisan lemming that can't think for oneself?
Serious? as a heartbeat. If the past 8 yrs. hasn't opened your eyes to who is responsible for the current economy, then my guess is you are the moron. BHO is doing the best possible job with the crap GW left behind. You appear to be the partisan who can't think past himself. Try and realize the world does not consist of you alone. I have yet seen GWB come out as a defender of his polices.
Wow, you really are a moron. What exactly is BHO doing "best" as possible? And what exactly did GWB leave behind? Please fill us in on his policies which lead to the current economic crisis. This should be funny.
Check out the future of your dollars by looking at what the new accepted currency that the post office will only accept for foreign payments. The NEW WORLD ORDER dollar.
No worries, they will change the bill number on the health care bill a couple of times, and put it through the day after someone MJ dies; just like the "crap in trade / carbon tax" bill.
Since he was shilling the HMO's. The only thing this dipsh!t has to worry about now, is which pineapple he wants the devil to shove up his *ss. Hitler needed a break.
Time to wake up. The criminals, like him, are the ones who took a dollar worth a nickel, and printed up trillions. The dollar is dead, and "they" know exactly what "they" are doing. If everyone gets "free" health care, then let it be the coverage that CHAPPAQUIDDICK TEDDY had.
Jesus wouldn't steal from people the way that this government is doing,. Jesus wouldn't crap on future generations to buy votes. Jesus would not support Ted Kennedy.
There has never been an advocate for Universal Health Care like Sen. Ted Kennedy. Not only will he be missed, but there is no one who can ever fill his shoes. He always cared about fighting for the working men and women of this nation. Now is the time to pass the Edward Kennedy Health Care Bill!
You said it Buckeyes. Not a single person has ever heard the story and said nothing should change. The saddest part is, millions go through the same thing, or worse.
RIP Ted Kennedy. It's time to take the next step and look at the performance of the health care system vs. cost. The irony is that more expensive treatments do not yield better results than less expensive treatments. When and how can we offer reward for a medical system that saves lives and regenerates health WHILE saving money? Treatments developed based on financial ROI are a core flaw in our system. When we reward health and well being, we will transcend this issue.
The astroturf groups are making sure every deceived fool is calling and writing their congressmen, not just getting some to show up at events. We need to do the same. Tell your congressmen, especially the Blue Cross Democrats, to support the Kennedy health care bill.
I believe we are! But yes, we need more of it still. Conservatives whine incessantly; frequently about the so-called "liberal" Media. But I have yet to hear ONE single report on the THOUSANDS of folks who WOULD be attending the Town Halls, Rallies, etc, but are TOO sick, incapacitated, disabled, etc to do so! Those of us who are able need to make our voices heard LOUDER!. RIP Mr. Kennedy. Thank you for a job well done.
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Only time will tell about what the results will be for health care reform, we've heard the praises and the scary stories. But soon this will be a part of our everyday lives when it kicks into effect
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Ted Kennedy didnt look like he needed Health care. He looked like he needs to sit down and take a drink of water before he gets a heart attack.
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Let us never forget Mary Jo Kopechne and the cowardly drunken Ted Kennedy who ended her life when she was only 29 years old. Ted Kennedy destroyed the life of his first wife because of his immoral drunken behavior. Ted Kennedy is now where he belongs rotting in the grave.
spatter188 1 year ago
Poor Byrd...Gore-ed by a Horny Beast called Liberalism. May his asbestos underwear never singe, get a redish tinge, now that he is re-united with old Ted, the swimmer of Chappaquaddick. Let's celebrate Mary Jo Kapeche Day for her July 19 sacrifice which saved the USA from early demise in 1969! Ted knew if the Tan Tax did not get 'em them the Cap and Tax will.
XianSlader 1 year ago
Obamacare was signed on March 2010 with 59% of the people disapproving according to a CNN poll. The CBO scored Obamacare on six years of coverage for 10 years of taxes, which is how the CBO showed the bill to be deficit neutral . It’s unconstitutional mandating all citizens to purchase health care. Even Pelosi said, “We have to pass the bill, so you can find out what is in it.” watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To It’s also meant to take over industry watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
Allen West 2012
Fashionificationful 1 year ago
america is by far a better place, with this traitor gone-
he has done nothen to improve the lives of americans--
im so happy he is dead--god bless america--
999Thip 1 year ago
i agree
ThailandLawyer 1 year ago
@ThailandLawyer you foolish falung
999Thip 1 year ago
I've always loved listening to Ted Kennedy. I just didn't know I would miss him this much.
cracks21229 1 year ago
@cracks21229 you been lied to all these years--this man was a traitor to america-
he will be judged for the murder he has caused-- millions of babys, murderd-
by his vote..not to mention that girl back in the 60,s-
america is a better place with out him.........
999Thip 1 year ago
I'm not sure how to react to the circumstances of Human care and life at this moment.
Ganthir 1 year ago
glad the kennedy dynasty is over with!
BeantownJim 1 year ago
@BeantownJim the kennedys did more in an hour than you would in five lifetimes or scott 'shit for brains' brown for that matter.
jandy16 1 year ago
@jandy16 Kennedy couldn't find his pants in the surf He enslved people with leftwing rhetoric! And left that legacy of dependancy!
BeantownJim 1 year ago
I wonder if Mary Jo Kopechne had health insurance. Not that it mattered, since Kennedy left her to drown.
jksonny 1 year ago
There is no mistake, this man was(is) passionate. Big up Ted you BAMF.
motionsiren 1 year ago
Rest in peace, Ted, with your mother and brothers and father. Your family lived the admonition of St. Mark: To those whom much has been given, much will be expected." God bless you, Senator. I know you are watching from Paradise
pmginkc 1 year ago
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He is burning in hell for leaving the girl to slowly drown in his DUI where he got away with MURDER !
blazinNAKEDBEERz 1 year ago
Atheism is the religion of eugenics. Atheism's tenets demand depopulation, dehumanization, debauchery, demonology; the demise of personhood and the establishment of a planetary Super State whereat free-will & self-sovereignty are inconceivable. Atheism is the death-knell to traditional Western Civilization, the work ethic, free-market-demand economies, real money, private land & gun ownership. Atheism's dogma demands obedience, supplication & slavery.
SufferInJuly 1 year ago
Just as those people back in 61' voted against and thaught medicare would bring STALINISM and COMUNISM into the U.S.
they are making crazy assumptions now. and it's funny how those people who were so aggainst it then are benefitting from it now. REPUBLICANS you have been served. Good day to us all.
ralatorre9 1 year ago
I'm listening Ted!
Intermixi 1 year ago
Self-loathing, well-fed American women are in plenitude as Obama really makes a person think...about installing a urinal in the garage. TED KENNEDY WAS BEHIND THE CRIMINALIZING OF LAETRILE: the cure, preventative & treatment for the chronic metabolic disease known as cancer. He's maggot meat now. Let us support tax-funded abortions upon all Kennedys.
SufferInJuly 1 year ago
Looks like Ted had a rough night the night before.
popeye1250 1 year ago
@popeye1250 Wasn't this around the time his health was failing
bluesboy25000 1 year ago
The U.S. is ruined. Fascism will work no
better here than it did in Mussolini's Italy.
SufferInJuly 1 year ago
fascism doesnt work... hats why we didnt vote for a fascist republican lol
wildboy789789 1 year ago
Without making a complete jackass of ourselves and getting unnecessarily politicized here are a few simple Qs we can ask ourselves: 1. Do I want renewable energy? 2. Do I want to be bullied/abused by cred. card or cell companies etc via fine prints 3. Do I want affordable education? And most importantly 4. Do I want affordable healthcare? I think it's worth to sit back and think about it a few mins..
RIP Teddy!
MJ4everNY 1 year ago
Ted is dead..... no more worries about chicks, cars and lakes!
ldsmess 1 year ago
Good one. Really original. Get a life dickhead.
jandy16 1 year ago
Nobody wants ANY VERSION of this TAX & JAIL TROJAN HORSE MANDATE HC BILL...
How Many TIMES does blomacare have to die??
...Scott BROWN was an INSTRUMENT to OBSTRUCT the HC trash put forth by the pis-losi whipped senate...
NO MANDATE to BUY.....
THE SLEEPING GIANT HAS INSOMNIA....
Don't even DREAM of it....
hadenufnow 1 year ago
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Ameritards, in general, are one of the most undisciplined when it comes to leading a healthy lifestyle. I see so many people every day who are basically immobile, the sole reason appears to be they are FATBUCKETS. Also the amount of people in this country who abuse drugs/alcohol/food, has to be one of the highest in the world. Maybe the government should encourage insurance companies to give BIG discounts to their insured clients, for meeting certain health markers (weight, bp, nonsmoker,etc).
tickyul 1 year ago
well putt,
putt....
well den da freeloaders like me will git all da good life when all dat redistributin kicks in...i be wait fo da REDISTRIBUTIN you paychecks to me an mine...blomadon be keep his promise man...its time to start gibben up awl da money man....start gibben it up ...it all be worf it man,,,,all be worf it....
hadenufnow 1 year ago
@hadenufnow You're shittin'! Right??
JCPUTT 1 year ago
amazing. RIP Ted.
santoshiom 1 year ago
swimmers son aint treadin water too well lately..another tragedy in hc for the komacazzi left pelosi whipped lw senate.
hadenufnow 1 year ago
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Ted Kennedy - A Life of Deceit & Corruption
One senate seat has managed to change the Liberals Democrats entire agenda !
Ha Ha
mstaff657 2 years ago
A Tea Bager taking Kennedy's place in the Senate is a cruel joke. For a man who championed universal coverage for all Americans, it is truly despicable.
mmf257 2 years ago
@mmf257 Kennefy tea bagged Mary Jo then got drunk killed her in a car accident and got off with free,..then helped his nephew get off a rape charge.maybe he can tea bag you..F Teddy
cjt3681 2 years ago
If you want to be schooled on the issues we can have a discussion about them. But if all you have is insults, I have nothing for you.
mmf257 2 years ago
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I wish this fat fucking murdering shabbos goy had died 45 years earlier. What a fucking piece of shit scumbag traitor this fuck was. I hope he is rotting in dante's 9th circle right now watching what happened to his fucking chair.
I maintain that the democratic (communist) party is the party of malevolent envy. An amalgam of nation wrecking misfits (jews, blacks, sodomites, baby killers, transgenders). Low lives with no respect for property or natural law.
MrKosherman 2 years ago
Ted I'd like to introduce you to Scott Brown Senator from massachusettes oh sorry MASSACHUSETTS
emt151 2 years ago
Ted also had a solution for bailing out the unions in the auto industry but it was called "cash for kerplunkers".
Sounds great, give everyone Ted's blue chip health care coverage but how will it be paid for? If health care is a right, isn't a roof over your head also a right? Shouldn't big government subsidize a house for anyone and everyone who wants one? Oh, we tried that already?
No one in this country is denied care, from the illegal immigrant Ted invited to invade up to Ted himself.
bigdogphoto 2 years ago
I love this video. I want to use it in my show trying to find out how to go about doing so. It is the best speech on health care he has done I trhink.
rheforgottenpeople 2 years ago
Healthcare SHOULD be UNIVERSAL and a RIGHT of every American. This is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. Let's get this RIGHT. Whatever his failings, Kennedy spoke right about this issue.
WILLIAMCOOKE 2 years ago 10
I agree health care should be a human right. Everyone deserves health care. We care about the babies before they are born and then once they are born no one cares anymore. We don't take care of our people once they are here we ignore them the ones that need help the most. I am tired of our country's selfish ways. We need to take a stand and bring america back before it goes down the drain.
rheforgottenpeople 2 years ago 15
@rheforgottenpeople Maybe the people without health care shouild get off their lazy asses and get jobs.
castletriglav 2 years ago
This comment vastly underscores your inability to understand the healthcare problem in this nation. Simply having a job does not provide an individual with care.
mmf257 2 years ago
@mmf257 Logic my friend. supply and demand. competition, free open market
government stick to national defense etc. or go like Sweden where they confiscate
your pay to hand out a couple asprin to a misfit. The sick, lazy, illegals and
hustlers will always need/demand free medical services. When provided by
the wage earning taxpayer through confiscation, their numbers will swell.
Until the tax payer is broke...............Then what??
JCPUTT 1 year ago
I understand, but we don't need to be like Sweden. However we need to fix our current system as it costs us more of our GDP than Sweden or any other nation, and in the end 30-40 million Americans ( not illegals) go uninsured. What is the benefit of such a system? The status quo is simply not the answer.
mmf257 1 year ago
@mmf257 When unqualified "Big Brother" Government starts regulating our
great medical systems you can kiss all our charitable hospitals Children's
Cancer, Shriners Burns etc. good-by. Don't take my word but go to an emergency
waiting room at any US hospital of any repute and you'll see no-one turned
back with a serious problem. Government ruins that with intrusive regulations
imposed by unqualified hacks.
JCPUTT 1 year ago
I reject the notion that a well funded government system can't work. The World Health organization has listed all the top health care systems in the world and we are nowhere to be found on the top 30! If our realization to this painful fact continues to slowed by such rhetoric, people will continue to go bankrupt in this nation for their medical expenses. You know that is the number one reason people go bankrupt in this nation.
mmf257 1 year ago
@mmf257 Indigence is not only due to bankruptcy from medical expenses.
Most is due to life style. Those folks, my friend, are the true burden and it
ain't gonna change with "poor me" legislation. Bankruptcy only effects those
few who have a bank to rupt. The NOW taxpayer and charity funded American
Medicine works for these. Socialized Medicine and Muslim Extremism is
Americas enemy in World War III. And this old soldier is sadly watching
his beloved country lose.
JCPUTT 1 year ago
@mmf257 You seem intelligent enough to understand the history
of bureaucratic expansion and its consequences, You know the
true bottom line of nearly all politicians is power. Government is
the direct opposite freedom. The private system must EARN while
governments confiscate. Private: the boss writes the paycheck
government the worker writes the paycheck. And you only
talk money on that top 30. The Great Hospitals on Mass. Ave.
in Boston treat thousands from even the top 10 every year. Private?
JCPUTT 1 year ago
Look I think the problem is considerably plainer than how you're painting it. Statistically it is a fact that the number one reason that middle class Americans declare bankruptcy is due to medical expenses. This week as Blue Cross and Blue shield are announcing 39% increases on premiums while reporting record earnings, fewer Americans can afford coverage. The Federal budget can't support Medicare and Social Security on its current trajectory and therefore reform is paramount.
mmf257 1 year ago
@mmf257 Right! Medical expenses are abusive and getting worse. My
decrepit old once logical mind cannot see a "Big Brother" takeover
There is no money to support government takeover. The dreaded private sector
supplies the wealth in this world and its ability to provide for No Heavy
Lifting Government Hacks is dwindling fast. Yep! a solution is needed but
we have a world financial crisis (Euro & Dollar) caused by those who
will run Socialized Medicine. Crack the whip on the working stiff?
JCPUTT 1 year ago
I don't understand the phrase "government takeover" or "socialized medicine" as it applies to this legislation. In the end we will have a moderate bill that simply prevents health insurance companies for denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing conditions and largely reduce our deficit. Why would anyone oppose those measures? I just doesn't make any sense. I thank you for your prior service!!!
mmf257 1 year ago
@mmf257 And I don't understand how mandating heavy risk of
private insurers can "reduce our deficit". You certainly aren't a new
comer to this planet. and are aware of our Terra-bucks in deficit
spending and multi-Terra-bucks in national debt. Why? government
regulations and "dead wood" political hack jobs. This initial "foot in
the door" legislation (hear that sucking sound) will soon have millions
of also-rans on the government payroll.
JCPUTT 1 year ago
You're right, I don't understand exactly how it will reduce the deficit. Yet the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says it definitively will. I don't doubt their math. Reform needs to happen for all the right reasons and if we have to do it while the Tea party kicks and screams, so be it.
mmf257 1 year ago 2
Not doubting a group of politician's arithmatic seems to satisfy
you and those folks of your political bent, I'll just while away my final
years watching our once great democratic/republic decay.
JCPUTT 1 year ago
Well I'm sincerely trying to understand your train of thought on this issue. The CBO is not political so neither party disputes the figures on a political premise. I understand that you're displeased with the state of affairs as they currently stand. But we can't tackle our problems unless we are willing to admit that they exist in the first place.
mmf257 1 year ago
I want America to resume its former standing among nations and I believe the way back is to rebuild our middle class through serious health care reform.
mmf257 1 year ago
@mmf257 Now the medical expenses. that's where changes must be made.
Let's first do something about legal and pharmacutical expense. Our best in the
world medical professionals have a potential lawsuit hanging over their head
every time they lift a scalpel. Frivolous lawsuits cost BBBBBillions paid to
attorneys and their ilk. Congress is all friggin lawyers so that won't change.
And government sides with the drug industry that sells to Canada for a
fraction of it does to the U.S.
JCPUTT 1 year ago
Health reform is NOT tort reform. Out of all the money spent on health care, only a fraction is attributed to legal expenses. Providing affordable coverage for the millions of Americans does not equal tort reform. It simply will not bring costs down for the average consumer.
mmf257 1 year ago
@castletriglav What about the people who have jobs but cant get health care because of pre exisiting condition? Or they are too old and they might be able to get coverage but its too expensive?
fabulous4137 2 years ago
@rheforgottenpeople
Fuck you Mr. I deserve everything paid for by others.
Eat my asshole and go to hell.
I hate Americans like you. Die you mother fucker
dgate007 1 year ago
@rheforgottenpeople
It is not about health care. It's about who get's the bill.
MarcCools1964 7 months ago
@MarcCools1964 the people who will get the bill will the be the fat asses who let themselves weigh 400 pounds and the dicks who make the choice to smoke and those who chose to live unhealthy lives.
TheBjmr 3 months ago
@WILLIAMCOOKE Spoken like a true idiotic teen who has mommy and daddy paying all of his bills. When you get a job and have to fork over your tax money to welfare trash, you'll feel differently.
castletriglav 2 years ago
When your insurance company denies you coverage because you are sick, you'll feel differently.
mmf257 2 years ago
@WILLIAMCOOKE ol foolish man--americas founders warned us amout people like you-- your view does not set well with the american people, we are not a socialist country, it will never work--americans like myself are awake to you and obummers socialist plans--and we wont let america fall--the tea party movement is what america needs right now, one seat at a time--we the people
999Thip 1 year ago
lets defend him and make him seem like a good person right?????? ted was a piece of shit who wanted everyones money to go to the lazyfucks who depend on him the dem's. fuck this guy he was part of the problem with america getting fuckin people to depend on the government. the more you depend on them the more power they have. he lived by that. think about it for a minute ass holes.
libssuck55 2 years ago
this man should have learned about preventative medicine. way way way way way back in the day they believed that cancer was a death sentence, and this man took this belief for many years, and he turned the whole thing into a money thing. if every single diner in Boston and worcester MA. would serve wheat gluten steaks and smoked soy patties with their cabbage, potatoes, instead of corned beef every st. patty's day with enough fruit and vegetables, this illnes would be eradicated by 2020.
MANSHOTS 2 years ago
this man was always getting drunk, and I believe it took a toll on his health, and all of this is really about guilt. Instead of all this drinking beer, and shots of brandy and rum and tequilla, he should have been drinking one glass of resveratrol red wine every night and then two cups of black coffee before driving
MANSHOTS 2 years ago
If he had a stronger immune system, he'd be alive today.
MANSHOTS 2 years ago
he wouldn't have died of this brain cancer if he was taking his vitamins and minerals, his coQ10, his B12, his
omega 3, his vitamin E, and his vitamin C.
MANSHOTS 2 years ago
guess what, most employers are going to drop coverage next year because of this. why should they cover employees if they see the gov is going to. duh, my wifes company has already told them they are dropping healthcare as of jan 1st because of all of this. we are fools to think gov can do anything but f it up. many of the companies here are already planning to drop insurance or reduce it drastically. great christmas present you retards in washington. oh yes you guys are not on this plan cowards
davidcole100 2 years ago
THE current bill is not the answer ,,,does not address proper Tort Reform, "undocumented" access for expensive non-life threatening HC , & does not provide MOST IMPORTANTLY an OPT OUT Provision for those that believe it is still too bloated with waste & inefficiencies resulting in inflated premiums not in keeping with services provided.
....A mandate stuffed inside a trojan horse bill for HC is a skunk in the road...too stupid to debate...
REPEAL the BIll nobody ever wanted..
hadenufnow 2 years ago
REPEAL the TAX & JAIL mandate bill nobody ever wanted..
& send it back to "real" senators next time for a do-over with an OPT-OUT provision..
hadenufnow 2 years ago
Hey Wake up! A STRUGGLING mom, dad, two kids...WILL SHELL OUT TO OBAMACARE'----""'DONATION"" for HC $16,000/Year---or equal to BRANDY NEW LOADED TOYOTA YARIS each year--out the window..
Get ready to exodus the country during the REPEAL process will take 5 years to complete worst case scenario..
Good luck..
hadenufnow 2 years ago
Kill the 3000 pg Illegal HC Trojan Horse Mandate Bill nobody wants..
KIll the pile of crap bill..That contain NOTHING ABOUT Health Care.!!
Kill the Bill..
Vote em out..
Nobody wants it..
hadenufnow 2 years ago
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I'm pretty sure he went to hell.
libssuck55 2 years ago
Im pretty sure you're a degenerate retard.
jwfcp 2 years ago
He killed someone you dipshit. And if you defend him your too fucked up for me to deal with. I might as well go talk to the wall.Ted Kennedy has killed a woman in 1969 drove his car off a bridge and the woman drowned .And he got away with it.Like O.J. accept he was just a drunk with a little bit of power.
libssuck55 2 years ago
That? well shit, I didnt think I could think any more poorly of you, but here we are. accidentally killing one of your friends (almost killing yourself in the process) is bad enough, I doubt you would say the same thing in real life: internet tough guy.
jwfcp 2 years ago 2
Ha Ha your a fuckin puppet..Go jerk off and hang yourself.. I've got shit to do.Go get the facts do a llittle research than you'll know what a fucktard you sound like.Then go find a mirror..stand in front of it and slap yourself in the face...now, see how stupid you look...that's how it would be if i was standing in front of you.
libssuck55 2 years ago
go drive off a bridge since you think its such a fun thing to do, yeah, he did it for the lols, retard.
whats this about jerking off in front of a mirror while slapping and choking yourself , did I interrupt you?
jwfcp 2 years ago 2
with O.J. it was in between capital murder and second degree murder, could go in either direction and he was aquitted. With Kennedy it was negligent vehicular manslaughter, two different charges.
MANSHOTS 2 years ago
Ted Kennedy was the real maverick of the Senate, not that goon McCain...
HIMsabo 2 years ago
On the right to health care, it may not be in the constitution as clearly as you'd like it, but the United States Declaration of Independence, which was adopted by the Second Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, reads:
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
evlarsson 2 years ago 2
The confusion here stems from two very different concepts, positive rights and negative rights. Our Constitution generally protects negative rights. It prevents you from being harmed (by the gov't) when you try to attain something for yourself. A positive right would be something that must be provided to you. In our system, those are limited to the aspects of due process afforded to someone the state is seeking to deprive of life or liberty - trial by jury, counsel, speedy trial, etc...
nnjhansen 2 years ago
That means they shouldn't be killed, they shouldn't be enslaved, and they should be allowed to lead their own life style.
So, what are you on about?
KickenItOldSchool 2 years ago
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What a fat, liberal pig! Thanks for harming my country, you commie!
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
Wow, I dont like Democrats or liberals either. But he is right in saying everyone has the right to health care. And calling him a commie, and a fat pig, just makes people like you look like the enemy.
Now what you should have said is. "I disagree with this man, People should earn there health care, support there own family's and lives. Because no man should have to pay his government to take care of his neighbors"
Signing out, Im Zack, good night folks.
Zackthedalj 2 years ago
Everyone doesn't have a RIGHT to healthcare....where is that right in our Constitution...? Where and when did our Founding Fathers even remotely address this right to healthcare? i missed it....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
You are required to have auto insurance and that wasn't in the constitution. There are a lot of things we have today that were not in the constitution. The constitution does allow for HC for all if congress votes it in. It's simply the right thing to do. WWJD?
Quixote1818 2 years ago
Quixote1818: WWJD? He would stand up and turn over the tables on these government officials, who are usurping authority the Constitution never intended them to have.....
lallapaloossa 2 years ago
So conservatives accuse us of being Nazis trying to euthanize people. However, they then turn around and deny people medical aid because they are "lazy" or whatever mastubatory excuse they think up. Hmmm kind of sounds like killing off undesirables to me...
The fact of the matter is that people who need healthcare either aren't covered, or their coverage is more or less USELESS (aka a fraud). This is a RIGHT vs. WRONG issue period.
LongDongSilver666 2 years ago
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Lol a guy with the mark of the best talking about right vs wrong morality.
Hilarious.
KickenItOldSchool 2 years ago
Ted Kennedy, one of the few with the courage to attempt to break the Insurance and Pharamaceutical industries' monopolies on U.S. healthcare.
We can and must have a government-run insurance plan alongside private insurance -- mostly premium-based, with subsidies for low-and-moderate income people. Open to all individuals and employees who want to join and with everyone free to choose the doctors we want.
bertinotti 2 years ago
Exactly how does an 'industry' have a monopoly on an 'industry'? There are dozens, if not hundreds of health insurance providers and more than a few pharmaceutical manufacturers competing in the marketplace. Do you even know what a monopoly is?
nnjhansen 2 years ago
No matter how you cut it...we have a responsibility to one another. We have when it comes to war when we stand together. It comes when someone is hungry or sick. We have the responsibility to take care of one another as human beings. Greed has always stood in the way of mankind and its time it stopped. Have a nice day. Support public option for all.
simplytony2 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing this video - universal comprehensive coverage is what the Obama administration should be working for right now. Stay on this message, Mr Obama; enough with the family vacations already. Time to get back to work on this. And may TMK rest in peace, let his dream come true: health care as a right, not a privilege.
NovoNurse 2 years ago
Please explain to me how you can claim as a right the fruit of another person's labor.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
Sure, but pls explain first what you refer to in "fruit of another person's labor"? All I am saying is, America should live to its ideals by constantly striving to do better, and this time, it should be "Liberty, Justice and Medicare for all".
Happy weekend.
NovoNurse 2 years ago
Health care is a service that is provided by other people. If you say that health care is a right, you are saying that you have a right to those services.
You could argue that a doctor or trained medical professional has a moral or even legal obligation to provide first aid and emergency treatment to save a life or limb but that is a far cry from saying that person is also obligated to give you an annual physical or clear up your rash.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
Well since you ask . . . while it being a "right" is perhaps debatable, the concept is, since no one in the middle class can afford the cost of catastrophic health care, eg. being hit by a bus would bankrupt most people if health care were done as a "pay-as-you-go" basis, same for cancer and any number of maladies, insurance is needed. The next question then asks how you provide this insurance. And the following question asks if it's best with or without profit for the middle-man.
alinkuji 2 years ago
Given that there are a number of not for profit health insurance companies, Kaiser and most BC/BS systems, and the profit margin for the others is relatively small at 3-4%, I am not sure profit vs non-profit has much to do with the issue.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
True enough. All I can say I suppose is that HMO profits are in the billions, siphoning off needed funds. The US unfortunately spends far too much money on health admin. While gum, running shoes, guns and cabbages are best produced by private enterprise, police, national defense, water, electricity and health care are best provided when *we the people* under the collective known as government, act to have these services provided for us directly. This works quite well in Japan, Canada, Europe etc
alinkuji 2 years ago
Most insurance companies offer a range of plans from HMO's to PPO's so I do not know what you mean by saying "HMO profits are in the billions." Health insurance is NOT a very profitable business.
Where do you live that water and electricity are government provided?
What evidence do you have "this" works well in Canada, Japan, or Europe?
nnjhansen 2 years ago
Public utilities have a long history in many countries, including the US. Ask Californians about public utilities vs Enron. :-)
HMO profits in the billions means that billions of dollars are being siphoned away from actually putting the money to work.
For evidence, pick your stat really. Cost, access, mortality. Remembering that the US is the richest country in the world, it is 38th in infant mortality. It's behind Costa Rica! Why do Canadians on average live 2 years longer than Americans?
alinkuji 2 years ago
Enron was an energy trading company.
HMO's are a specific type of insurance plan, not an insurance company. One of the largest providers of HMO's is Kaiser and they are non-profit. Also, your assertion that profits equate to money siphoned away and not put to work shows an amazing ignorance of how capital works
Life expectancy is a fairly meaningless measure in this discussion as there are so many factors that contribute to it.
Where would you rather have cancer, US or Canada?
nnjhansen 2 years ago
In an ideal world I'd love to believe that profits are all used for *optimal* upgrades of medical technology, but:
Steve Wiggins, CEO, Oxford Health Plans, Inc., $29,061,599
Wilson Taylor, Chairman and CEO, CIGNA Corporation, $11,568,410
That's pretty good eh.
As for cancer, if you are an "average joe", you are far better off, far better off, being Canadian if cancer is your unfortunate destiny. Because you will be treated.
Longevity is but one stat. All-telling? No. Meaningless? No.
alinkuji 2 years ago
Unless you are a shareholder in either Oxford or CIGNA, I fail to see how their employees are compensated is any concern of yours. The last I checked, our gov't CEO got a free mansion, a fleet of 747's, some helicopters, a few limos, and a personal security detail all costing 100's of millions of dollars a year.
Cancer survival rates in the US exceed those in Canada by a wide margin. When you get sick, you want the best care. That care is in the US.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
And you're right. And yet mortality rates for cancer between Canada and the US run neck and neck. The issue is not quality but access and cost. US hospitals (for those who can afford it) provide excellent care. However, when looking at *all* Americans, access is part of quality and for "average joe", you're better off getting care where you can be treated. In all advanced countries but the US, no one goes broke for need of cancer treatment. Helping middle class Americans is good for us all.
alinkuji 2 years ago
Mortality rates for cancer between the US and Canada DO NOT run neck and neck. Breast cancer mortality is 9% higher in Canada, prostate cancer is 184% higher, and colon cancer is 10% higher.
Removing the cap on insurance coverage, set by law would do a lot to prevent people from going broke from cancer treatment.
The fact is that the vast majority of Americans have coverage and are satisfied with their coverage.
No one is helped by a gov't program that bankrupts us.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
I agree with your last statement. As for cancer mortality rates according to stats I've seen, OECD 2004, top 16 countries for cancer mortality, Holland is number 1 with 433 deaths per 100,000. The US is 9th with 321.9 per 100,000, then Australia - 298.9, Norway - 289.4, France - 286.1. Canada's not on the list. Your assertion is not supported in this set of data.
Satisfaction is much lower amongst people who have actually had to make claims.
Your comments on caps make sense.
alinkuji 2 years ago
Your statistics you cite are not for cancer mortality but for deaths from cancer. Those are two different things. The stats you cite reflect the incidence of cancer in a specific country, not the chance of survival once cancer is diagnosed. The US leads the world in survival rates for most forms of cancer.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
Points taken and agreed. However the elephant in the room remains access to health care. Surely America is not such a selfish country that it believes those without money deserve to die sooner than those with money. Millions are without insurance and these "poor" are not just the "street drunks". More often they are the working poor, people who, perhaps uneducated, are hard working, work two jobs to get by and often go to the grave before their time. They deserve better.
alinkuji 2 years ago
No one denies that some people have problems accessing health care in the US. The problem is how to solve the problem. Kennedy believed that this problem (as just about every problem he ever encountered except a certain car accident) required greater government involvement. Many others believe just the opposite.
nnjhansen 2 years ago
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Ted Kennedy was a traitor, murderer, corrupt asshole and a drunkard who never did a good deed in his life.
May he burn in Hell forever!
lickdacat2 2 years ago
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Fuck you, asshole
ralphus44 2 years ago
You "believe that is a lie"? How so? How exactly can healthcare be sustainable if you are continually taking more money out than you are putting in? What is it that the US government is going to do better with universal healthcare than they do with Medicare which is already $36 TRILLION in the hole? How on earth is healthcare a BASIC RIGHT? Is it more basic than food and shelter? Because we have hungry and homeless people. Why aren't you clamoring for that? I'm also glad you aren't a citizen.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
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I am so glad that this slobbering imbecile piece of dung is now dead....This murdering, baby killing bastard is finally been rendered unable of sodomizing the american people....May he rot in hell for all eternity...The most disgusting creature to ever swim in the polluted waters of the chappaquiddick was in fact this fat bastard...I hope you died miserably Teddy...Wish I could see you fry in hell.
timetodepop 2 years ago
He was, like most of us, a flawed individual and I didn't agree with him on all issues but on this issue he was RIGHT ON...Thank you Teddy...
jtcaell 2 years ago
Oh please...
snoops71 2 years ago
We have the largest economy in the world, but we also have the third most people in the world. We also have the best acute care in the world and the best innovation in the world. People around the world come to the US for life-saving treatment. Nothing in this world is free - and if you try to shape the US healthcare system to mimic another system the world will lose all of its benefits. Socialized healthcare is like communism, good in theory, but unsustainable in reality.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
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Ted is dead, its all just water under the bridge now.
cinnamonfantasy 2 years ago
Well universal care is too expensive, and unfair to those who actually care to produce in society. But who is calling Ted a SOB for fighting for it? I think they are calling Ted an SOB for killing a girl in 1969.
The US isn't Norway, we can't afford to fund the healthcare of half the population. We don't sit on oil.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
Ted Kennedy, Thank you so much for fighting for universal healthcare for people in the United States, and your emotional eloquence while doing so. I am going to miss you so much...may God bless you. I love you.
1lightspeed 2 years ago
Ted Kennedy, you murdered a woman in 1969. Go to hell.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
As if you really care about her.
snoops71 2 years ago
Clearly Ted didn't really care about her. He let her die. How's it feel to support someone who allowed a young woman to suffocate so he could go get his alibi on?
OffGentTott 2 years ago
I had nothing to do with it, so don't try to pull me in it, and I do not support Ted's actions at the time. A lot of this garbage is straight up political, and you know it. Mary Jo is being used as an excuse, b/c people stick with and defend those in their political party. No, a lot of the very people who keep bringing her up do not care at all about that girl. They just don't like Ted Kennedy. Her name is being used only.
snoops71 2 years ago
Oh, the ignorance that lives on youtube. RIP Ted Kennedy.
chynna5178 2 years ago
Ted kennedy was the worst type of scumbag in American history.
Rot in hell, Ted.
CrimeReport 2 years ago
I wonder if that woman he left to drown in that pond, screaming for help that would never come, had health insurance?
mesa401 2 years ago
I am sure glad that this S.O.B. is dead. No one in their right mind wants this socilistic Health Care that Obama is wanting to pass through congress.
amishron61 2 years ago
This people are amazingly brilliant. They fought to expand slavery, oposed integration of freed slaves, delayed their civil rights, and managed to blame Republicans for all of it and take credit for all the good racial matters AFTER they relized blacks were helping Reps win elections. Dems will sell their mother for power, just like the fascists and communist elites.
Will Congress commit to give up their special med plan for their own ligislation imposed on US?
mexseiko 2 years ago
Solution: no free healthcare for members of the Senate
andharvey8 2 years ago
Too bad the garbage that Obama is pushing is not the health coverage afforded the Senate.
If we'd get out of Korea, Germany, Iraq and the other 130 country we have troops in, maybe we could afford some of it for ourselves. But, NOOO...
MayadaJeffery 2 years ago
Agreed. However, even if we withdrew into our borders we still couldn't afford a government healthcare system. Anyone who supports government healthcare supports bankrupting the USA.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
OFFGentTOTT- You need a good education you are correct you didnt go to yale but sir did you even graduate elementary school ? GWB is the whole reason we are in the mess we are in today. People like Ted Kennedey , well there really is know one like Ted. He fought for working families and the common folk. He fought for univ hc, civil rights, and education oh and don't forget min wage increases on every opportunity. He is one of a kind and we owe him much thanks.
grant121008 2 years ago
GWB is the entire reason we are in the mess we are in today? Are you serious? Is he the Fed? Is he the rating agencies? Is he Fannie/Feddie? Is he the CRA? Is he Chris Dodd or Barney Frank? Is he the American consumer? I can't believe you are questioning my education.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
GWB was responsible for putting responsible people in the position's of protecting the American taxpayer... This was not the case in the Wall St. Meltdown and housing crisis.
letsbleep 2 years ago
Are you a moron or are you being serious? And if you are concerned about protecting the American taxpayer, surely you must be livid over the pathetic job BHO is doing, right? Or are you just a partisan lemming that can't think for oneself?
OffGentTott 2 years ago
Serious? as a heartbeat. If the past 8 yrs. hasn't opened your eyes to who is responsible for the current economy, then my guess is you are the moron. BHO is doing the best possible job with the crap GW left behind. You appear to be the partisan who can't think past himself. Try and realize the world does not consist of you alone. I have yet seen GWB come out as a defender of his polices.
letsbleep 2 years ago
Wow, you really are a moron. What exactly is BHO doing "best" as possible? And what exactly did GWB leave behind? Please fill us in on his policies which lead to the current economic crisis. This should be funny.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
Check out the future of your dollars by looking at what the new accepted currency that the post office will only accept for foreign payments. The NEW WORLD ORDER dollar.
No worries, they will change the bill number on the health care bill a couple of times, and put it through the day after someone MJ dies; just like the "crap in trade / carbon tax" bill.
bigc028282 2 years ago
Since he was shilling the HMO's. The only thing this dipsh!t has to worry about now, is which pineapple he wants the devil to shove up his *ss. Hitler needed a break.
Time to wake up. The criminals, like him, are the ones who took a dollar worth a nickel, and printed up trillions. The dollar is dead, and "they" know exactly what "they" are doing. If everyone gets "free" health care, then let it be the coverage that CHAPPAQUIDDICK TEDDY had.
bigc028282 2 years ago
c'mon people.... WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? that's the one and ONLY question.....
bnahstee 2 years ago
I don't think he'd put profit over people. And neither would I.
mose3 2 years ago
Jesus wouldn't steal from people the way that this government is doing,. Jesus wouldn't crap on future generations to buy votes. Jesus would not support Ted Kennedy.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
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YES WE CAN!
daflew 2 years ago
what is even in Obama's healthcare bill. I have no idea. Is it written anywhere?
gdwme 2 years ago
Not even Obama knows.
OffGentTott 2 years ago
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RealShakaZulu 2 years ago
What a bunch of crap. If he were a conservative, he would have been drummed out a long time ago. What a hero.... not...
evanduz 2 years ago
I'm lulzing over here..!!11!!
Yoo insufferable LibTards
The dood committed Criminal DoucheBaggery by killing a young woman
And yoo asshole lionize him...???
That's why yoo doods suck.....big time
stinky125 2 years ago
I wonder if Sen Kennedy became disappointed in President Obama towards the end?
The Prez isn't even for Universal Health Insurance...he is starting to waiver on the including the public option at all.
scampbell04 2 years ago
Webcelt makes a good point: call your congressman and senators. Let's direct Senator Kennedy's passion and vigor into getting this thing done!
RIP, Senator.
justinkase82 2 years ago 4
There has never been an advocate for Universal Health Care like Sen. Ted Kennedy. Not only will he be missed, but there is no one who can ever fill his shoes. He always cared about fighting for the working men and women of this nation. Now is the time to pass the Edward Kennedy Health Care Bill!
seattlepainter 2 years ago 6
godspeed lion of the senate...we needed you now more than ever.
TheBuckeyes6 2 years ago 3
You said it Buckeyes. Not a single person has ever heard the story and said nothing should change. The saddest part is, millions go through the same thing, or worse.
TonyandAnnie 2 years ago
HEAR HEAR! Hearken unto the roar of the mighty Lion!
chalicechica 2 years ago 2
RIP Ted Kennedy. It's time to take the next step and look at the performance of the health care system vs. cost. The irony is that more expensive treatments do not yield better results than less expensive treatments. When and how can we offer reward for a medical system that saves lives and regenerates health WHILE saving money? Treatments developed based on financial ROI are a core flaw in our system. When we reward health and well being, we will transcend this issue.
dainismichel 2 years ago
The astroturf groups are making sure every deceived fool is calling and writing their congressmen, not just getting some to show up at events. We need to do the same. Tell your congressmen, especially the Blue Cross Democrats, to support the Kennedy health care bill.
webcelt 2 years ago 5
I believe we are! But yes, we need more of it still. Conservatives whine incessantly; frequently about the so-called "liberal" Media. But I have yet to hear ONE single report on the THOUSANDS of folks who WOULD be attending the Town Halls, Rallies, etc, but are TOO sick, incapacitated, disabled, etc to do so! Those of us who are able need to make our voices heard LOUDER!. RIP Mr. Kennedy. Thank you for a job well done.
KYBluesKY 2 years ago 5
That last post was for OFFGENT by the way.
gragarbagr 2 years ago
RIP Mighty Lion! In honor of Ted Kennedy, let's make sure Health Care Reform WITH Public Option Passes!!!!
nvpublictv 2 years ago 5