The Punk Patriot vs Conservative Talk Radio

[musicman45ist]

IT AINT THE RICH MANS FAULT HE"S RICH AND YOU AREN"T! He twists it all to shit! I have never said I ain't rich cause the rich man doesn't pay me enough, I ain't rich cause I can't win any playstation games! My dumb ass won't stop buyin shit I don't fuckin need. And I keep letting the LIBS in government make me pay more in taxes all the time! Our country is going thru hard times cause more and more people listen to pencil cocks like this!

[musicman45ist]

This guy is a dumb fuck! I have never had a rich man tell me to shut up and get back to work. This little mommas boy wants it handed to him. SOMEBODY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!! HE NEEDS HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM!! HAND IT TO HIM!

[tikitortured]

Liberals should make music and ice cream (and childish videos)...NOT POLICY!

[tikitortured]

You're an idiot. Get yes ass off your moms computer and get a fucking job and stop blaming others for your shortcomings.

[Asisan1]

Okay. People shut the fuck up about the flag. If you see something wrong with it you probably don't get it.

[haltdiefressealtarrr]

why is there a german trademark in the flag? adidas is not an american company, sry...

next time u should choose american companys 4 ur dump patridiotic spot...

[DesolateGore]

"The poor man that does all the rich mans work" In Wisconsin, your talking about Public GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES!!! You dont see this as Government Vs. Private Citizens?

You have GE on your flag. you know they pay 0% in taxes right?

0%, wow thats a HUGE "loophole"

PS.... I only make $28,000 a year and yes its a union job. So no, im not part of the Elite "ruling" class.

[av8tor17b]

Wow. Just Wow. Great stuff!

[ginad17]

I tend to agree with him, but find him annoying at the same time. 0.O

[thomaserossi]

Wow! You're so full of shit you're indoctrinated beyond stupid.

You're the next generation of know-nothing Hippy dipshits who will usher in the next Fascist regime.

KILL THE RICHERS!

You're a stupid fuck.

[o56kid]

What a pussy!

All it takes to be the "rich man" is hard work bitches...

[Aquafrostsheke]

@o56kid Dude there are people who work hard. Harder than you probably ever have. Who make way less than you. Granted I I'm not saying your not a hard worker. The points not to bitch & moan. The point is that we live in a place where there are people who don't do shit that get everything, people who try harder than anyone who make ends meet or less, then there's the people who just lay down don't do shit & get crapped on. A while ago all it took to be a rich man is hard work now it's changed.

[polidocproductions]

Preach, brother.

[emilnomel2009]

The term 'the rich' is misleading, they are not all equal. Many are altruistic and benevolent; they treat people fairly and pay decent wages with good benefits. I use the term 'avaricious elite', 'greedy elite' or 'bottom-line capitalists'. I know who you mean when you say 'the rich' but judging by the comments you are getting, some people don't know who you are talking about specifically when you use such a general, all encompassing term.

[primoknoxville]

It's not like the devil it is the devil and you better beleive it.

[mtldemon6]

I think you may have just crossed the line from creating extremely informative, entertaining internet videos to creating art.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@mtldemon6 Thank you!

[AnbusKi]

@ThePunkPatriot Preach!

[BenjaminBixby]

@ThePunkPatriot You are definitely the man! However, I don't think @mtldemon6 meant to compliment you. I could be wrong, but I think he noticed something in this video that made your prose appear almost theatrical. But yeah, on another note, I think I come from a different dimension than the people who don't believe in the gospel of your truth.

[moontooth]

Sorry there is not enough money for wages only WARS.

Iraq

Afghanistan

Pakistan

Libya

Tally that list together and check the bill.

[skitspuce]

If you want a better life for yourself, go out and earn it. If you want to become the "rich man", then go do it. There is no one holding you down, no one causing you to earn a low wage but yourself. Step the FUCK up and go get it - it's there. Blaming the rich man for your troubles is the easy way out, and you're certainly not entitled to shit - especially 25% of my paycheck.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@skitspuce You obviously have no understanding of macroeconomics, nor monetary policy.

[skitspuce]

@ThePunkPatriot I understand that if you bust your ass in this country, you can become what you want and earn what you want. It's hard work, harder than most are willing to put forth, but the opportunity is there. I also understand that most would rather bitch about being poor than work to become rich. I'm fucking sick to the gills of watching my paycheck go to helping people who are perfectly able of helping themselves. I don't begrudge those who are willing but unable, but despise leaches.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@skitspuce Here's the thing-- wages have remained stagnant since 1960, yet the cost of living has increased. As time goes on, you have to work longer hours, for what is essentially less pay, just to stay still.

We've increased productivity though, which means more profits for the corporations. Which they give to the banks, who lend us the difference in wages to make up for the fact that they don't pay us what we're worth, creating a nation of debtors.

[metashifter]

@skitspuce Yet another issue with this statement, working your ass off is often at the whim of some guy you never see, never hear from, never meet, and have no real reason to like. And if you want to do it the way it was done when this statement was valid, say, sometime in the past 300 years when it was actually possible to be a farmer and work your ass off for a living, you would still have to modify the entire agribusiness model through corporation-skewering activism.

[skitspuce]

@metashifter I'm still trying to understand why it's the rich man that's holding you down. You're both obviously educated, what has prevented you from becoming the rich man? Are all rich men evil? What about those that donate millions to charity? Are the wages being paid not a function of the market? If you're the best in your profession, isn't there some rich man out there that would be willing to pay you more for your skills? Perhaps it's a huge rich-man conspiracy?

[metashifter]

@skitspuce The central problem is that when more wealth is dedicated to the wealthy then the production of any goods through entrepeneural services must first seek the most effective capital income, and when the share of that income must come from higher eschelons of society then the sophistication of those goods must also be higher to compete with greater variability of demand. This increases the real rate of failure beyond normally feasable bounds.

[melismatica]

@mike10four and Punk Patriot

it is actually both 'unalienable' and 'inalienable'. Peace! Good work PP. :) I would include a link but Youtube won't let me

[metashifter]

@melismatica of course it won't because comments have to be original opinions

[kevinthenerd]

@gjcomputerservice I have a mechanical engineering degree, but our foreign policy rewarded outsourcing all of our manufacturing and engineering to countries with superior education, cheaper labor, and government-supported healthcare. The balance sheet of an American manufacturer simply cannot compete with that.

[JesusHCrizzle]

Peace be with you Punk Patriot!

[Oilwellian]

Without labor, there would be no wealth.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@Oilwellian Absofrigginlutely

[lamaddussa]

you got a rhythm going there...

anyway, well said.

[8c3c]

Continuing...Once you have become angry and defensive you have lost not only the debate but all merit and your point gets lost in idiocy spewing from your mouth. Stop whining, get a job, join the military, or get an education then get a job. If you can't get an education then just get a job. Then maybe someone will realize that you might have something worthwhile to say. Until then stop ranting about things which you really don't have a clue.

[8c3c]

Continuing...Suffice to say that being an 'Eagle Scout' does not make you a patriot. A true patriot follows, respects, and obeys the laws of the country for which he expresses patriotism. You have shown yourself to not be a patriot by violating US Code Title 4 Chapter 1. One of the very first codified laws of this great country of ours. Additionally, the 'go blow yourself' comment to myself and others really shows extreme immaturity and a large degree or defensiveness.

[golux13ds]

@8c3c Do you ever drive over the speed limit? I guess you're not a patriot. (By the way, the flag law you cite has nothing to do with (a) patriotism or (b) PP's video. Parody is a long-accepted form of free speech -- you remember that from the First Amendment, right? -- and as such is as patriotic as any flag you might want to wave.)

[8c3c]

First I must apologize - I misread the comments, I attributed the Navy comment by another commenter, to you. I do heartily apologize for the misread. You need to remove the 'punk' part from your username, as well as the 'patriot' part, for you really are neither of these. Using the two nouns in conjunction with each other is really hypocritical, are you saying sir that you are a hypocrite? I am not going to go into a discourse on the generalized meanings of the two words.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@8c3c I am both Punk and Patriot, there is no contradiction. The founding fathers were both Punks and Patriots simultaneously. Once again-- go blow yourself.

[Mike10four]

Many throughout the world have little understanding how our unalienable Rights are the foundation to lifting the tide of the standard of living for all. All Life from bacteria to the “rich man” has the same Rights (see my channel video). Thank God for the “rich man,” otherwise, the Punk Patriot will not have: the computer, the operating system, the video camera, youtube, etc to enlighten us.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@Mike10four That is a huge load of bullshit. And it's INalienable rights, not unalienable. Thomas Jefferson thought all taxes should be paid by the rich so that the poor could get gov't services for free. Go blow yourself.

[8c3c]

@ThePunkPatriot by the way - Mike10four is correct and you are WRONG. It is UNalienable. Read the Declaration of Independence. Know your facts before spewing

[minimalmonkey]

@8c3c Unalienable vs inalienable - looks like it was one in some drafts and the other in the final. You win on pedantic points, but both words actually mean the same thing.

I think what PP is saying is worth saying and worth hearing. I'm not sure I agree 100% but I don't see why you're so hostile about it. My sense is that people don't have as much opportunity as they used to, especially young people. And technically, it seems like PP has a job. You just don't like how he's doing it.

[Mike10four]

@minimalmonkey The difference between “unalienable” and “inalienable:”

"Unalienable: incapable of being alienated, that is, sold and transferred." - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, pg. 1523

"Inalienable rights: Rights which are not capable of being surrendered or transferred without the consent of the one possessing such rights." Morrison v. State, Mo. App. 252 S.W. 2d 97, 101

[8c3c]

@minimalmonkey I didn't start the UN / IN argument. If his job is posting rants then he really needs to argue his points rationally and with some facts and not getting argumentative and without using illegal imagery. As for the "blow yourself" comment, what is next threats of violence?

[Mike10four]

@8c3c You are a breath of fresh air. I journey through the youtube universe looking for and learning from the wise, but mostly, I find the otherwise.

[8c3c]

@Mike10four Why thank you. I am just a hardcore Constitutionalist (non-affiliated with any certain movement). I would venture to guess that our 'esteemed' host probably thinks that the Civil War was over slavery.

[Mike10four]

@8c3c Since you are a “hardcore Constitutionalist” perhaps, you could do me the honor to critique my thesis on the proof of Thomas Jefferson’s Rights (see my channel video). At least, my channel will steer you to a more elevated topic.

[8c3c]

@Mike10four I will take a gander at it when I get home. Right now I am at work, you probably know - others don't, but that is the place where I get paid by the "Rich Man" for performance of a service so that I might consume products from others and do as I see fit with MY money. I don't beg for handouts unlike others. Mainly because our founding fathers believed that every man should was honest and hardworking and not a lazy beggar.

[8c3c]

@8c3c Remove *should*

[Mike10four]

@ThePunkPatriot Please read our Declaration, the word is “unalienable!” The rich pay more taxes than the poor. You can’t get a job from a poor person! From your last sentence, you lack virtue. My God, what has our government controlled school system doing to our kids?

[golux13ds]

@Mike10four And where are all the jobs that these less-taxed rich people are supposed to be providing? The Bush tax cuts have been in place for a decade, and they were extended in part because the wealthiest Americans who benefit the most from them are supposed to be the ones who will create jobs... but they didn't create jobs during the past 10 years, and there's no sign of those jobs now.

[Mike10four]

@golux13ds Any tax program with a ‘Sunset” clause, like the Bush tax cuts, is a job killer. You need to make tax cuts “permanent” as the Progressive Democrat JFK did, see: “JFK on Taxes”: watch?v=qVwGIeD9i3I The best tax structure to create jobs is known as the Fair Tax (H.R. 25 / S. 13). The US Gov will not support a Fair Tax because lost of tyranny over the people and those Corporations not involved in crony-capitalism. Also, over regulated and Gov controlled markets don’t help.

[Mike10four]

@golux13ds If you see my 2 part channel video on our unalienable Rights, you will find these Rights apply to all social systems including Corporations. When corporate Liberty is obstructed via: over regulated, high taxes, controlled markets, etc; adding stress to the pursuit of its objectives may result in: bankruptcy, going out of business, move to a more profitable location, engage in crony-capitalism for survival, etc.

[imaginativelads]

@ThePunkPatriot I have never heard the truth distilled as eloquently and passionately from any generation before you. Keep it coming. KEEP IT SIMPLE and they will come.

[alephcraven]

@Mike10four Though I'm nowhere near as concise as the man who posted the video, I would like to point out that many of history's greatest innovators were not rich to begin with. Many more of them never became so because already-rich men stole, cheated or swindled those ideas out from under them (i.e. Nicola Tesla). Even more of our great innovators were engineers working for corporate entities which take the credit and the massive payoff while the actual innovators get one-time bonuses.

[Mike10four]

@alephcraven My Friend, humans are imperfect and there are thieves in both rich and poor. In the US, I know poor who became rich as well as rich who became poor. If you don’t like your job, quit! Become your own boss, create your own corporation. You too can become rich! The only one holding you back is you! However, today our government is making it harder. On the other hand, in most other countries the rich is the oligarchy, the rest is poor.

[alephcraven]

@Mike10four So. If I quit my job (which means I will have no more money coming in) and spend money (I do not have) to establish my own business (which must compete with established entities providing similar services which may have large amounts of money behind them), I might become rich. Or poorer.  To address your last point, though: given the concentrations of wealth in the US, is there a difference between capitalism and oligarchy if the government does not regulate the difference?

[alephcraven]

@Mike10four Further, your solution supposes that it is only a lack of courage holding people back from quitting and becoming rich. Perhaps that was true in previous times (I doubt it) but today, it is rather difficult for a person working a low-paying job to quit, due to a lack of savings (due to low wages) and security (due to anti-private-union governments). Your plan could bankrupt lots of people because lots of people do not have the ideas or ability a large corporation does.

[alephcraven]

@Mike10four Finally (500 characters makes it hard to express one's self in a respectful way), you say that it is a problem that in "most other countries" the rich function as an oligarchy. Is this a bad thing? And, if so, do you support government regulation to keep that from happening? Or a redistribution or wealth to solve the "problem" of wealth concentration? Would you agree that persons who have had ideas or labor stolen from them by those corporations should receive restitution?

[Mike10four]

@alephcraven Got a good idea, take the risk! Many failed, some make it, ask: Bill Gates, Hewlett-Packard, etc. You may only need a computer or a garage. Need startup money? Many venture-capital folks will partner with you. However, in the US these days the rich oligarchy is sidestepping our Constitution; making entrepreneur events harder due to corporatism infringement on our unalienable Rights. We should have separation of corporate and state! Banks are corporations!

[vcdaniels]

I hope you don't mind if I mirror this on my channel, Punk Patriot. This is another video that just hit me that profoundly. Excellent!!

[gjcomputerservice]

Here's a clue: Get off your ass, shave that monstrosity of a 'stache, go back to school, better yourself, work hard and you too could be one of the rich!!! This is the land of opportunity, FFS. Quit whining and be a real American.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@gjcomputerservice The land of the opportunity to be saddled with debt while taking a job that isn't in your field, for wages that are less than your grandparents took when they were the same age? The land of opportunity to compete against other poor people around the world who literally work for rice? Go blow yourself.

[vcdaniels]

@gjcomputerservice

Or wait . . . maybe you're one of the rich that are anal-raping the middle-class with no Vaseline. It would definitely suit you if we just shut up, quit whining and be "real Americans" by letting people like you continuously savage our backsides. Someone points out how people like you just tell dissidents to "shut up and get back to work" and you respond by telling him to pretty much shut up and get back to work. And I wonder why most people think he's right . . .

[sophiaruthmarie]

@gjcomputerservice You sir are truly deluded. We wont quit whining. Because We are ENTITLED to a better life and a better society. This is our world and we have a right to determine how it is structured, not just to make the best of the crumbs we are given. FUCK THAT. Im organizing to rip the wealth those rich fuckers stole from me and others like me right back out of their hands. We are entering a new period of resistance from Madison to Cairo, be fucking afraid. We now know what we are worth

[8c3c]

PunkPatriot huh? So if you are such a patriot, why are you standing in front of an obvious desecration of the US flag? Don't give me no bullshit about it being symbolic or some crap like that. You say you were in the Navy, where is your honor, sir? Point could have been made without altering the flag of the country you swore to protect and defend. You are nothing more than a sycophant yourself, attempting to use words as your medium of power in order to gain money.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@8c3c I've never EVER said I served in the navy. I am, however an Eagle Scout, and a Patriot. That flag simply shows the truth about our country. Truth hurts, huh? Also, go blow yourself.

[grandfoundation1]

Write in vote for BERNIE SANDERS IN 2012! Thank you God for Bernie Sanders... Vote independent. No more Republicans & no more Democrats. But please remember what they have done in the past! And will do in the future.

[Mitscherman]

When I drive down the road I see BMWs, Mercedez Benz's, Lexus', Motor Homes, Boats being hauled on a trailer, citizens living in massive 4,000 square feet homes with acres of property and gated communities. I see prices for clothing and shoes that are exhorbitant.  I cannot afford these things but others can. Should I hate? Or is this ENVY? I chose my path in life by the effort I put into study from middle school forward. I had no family connections. I joined the Navy. Work ethic rewarded.

[Mitscherman]

So much hate against the "Rich Man". There has been and always will be people who have more than we do, whatever level of society we fit into. From the single mom with a 10th grade education struggling to support her 3 children on a minimum wage income (with tax payer support in the form of WIC, Food Stamps, medical care, and perhaps even Section 8 housing) to the CSR earning $20 an hour, to the DINKS struggling to keep up with mortgage and two cars.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@Mitscherman check out stateofworkingamerica [dot] org

[Tressco]

Axel Ant!

[TreachMarkets]

The rich man's paying me pretty well. He used to pay me like crap, but then I researched and studied at night and learned some skills that pay better, and then got a new job.

My friend wasn't getting paid too well either, then he had an idea. He saved for a while, worked a few extra shifts, then he started a business. Now the rich man is his customer instead of his employer, and he makes more money.

Just a couple positive examples of how to get more money out of the rich man.

[pat442389]

@TreachMarkets how many friends do you have went to school and now owe 50 thousand-$150 thousand dollars and are working a shitty job? even ppl like you deserve more money. our whole system is only a step above egypts corrupt system. the rich need to pay way more in taxes, the super rich need to be regulated, corporations are NOT ppl and cant legally be treated like a person. what has happened since the early 80s is pretty much theft by the rich. the stole our gov, future and middle class

[TreachMarkets]

@pat442389 The whole student loan system is a scam, I agree. You're better off to get a cheap technical degree.

When you try to 'regulate' rich people you get even worse systems. Every system has elites. The Soviet Union, North Korea, Old Communist China, all of these systems that started out to 'regulate' or eliminate the rich still had elites. The difference is that there was no freedom, no way to better yourself like the ways that I listed.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@TreachMarkets That's simply not true. THe USA was at it's height of prosperity during the 1950s, and our top marginal tax rate on income was 91% . Today it's 35% and we're falling behind Europe, who has similar top marginal tax rates on income as we did in the 1950s.

[TreachMarkets]

@ThePunkPatriot The tax thing is a common fallacy. True, the 'income' rates where higher but back then the vast majority of rich peoples' income was capital gains, which was a bit higher than today but nowhere near 90%. There were very few Tiger Woods types making actual income. The government was much smaller back then, anyway. And now the govt taxes us in many ways that weren't around back then to fund this much smaller govt.

[ThePunkPatriot]

@TreachMarkets What do you mean it's a "fallacy." It's a fact.

[TreachMarkets]

@ThePunkPatriot Right, but as I said in my other comment, there were so many deductions, tax shelters, and loopholes that nobody back then was paying 91%. Over time they just closed the loopholes and lowered the rate, but the revenue stayed about the same relative to GDP. Not to mention most of the truly elite weren't even making 'income', they were making capital gains.

I know that when I reply twice, Youtube only shows one reply in your Inbox. It's an annoying feature.

[TreachMarkets]

When you talk about rich, remember that there are levels of rich. Most of the progressive tax initiatives like raising income tax or estate tax target the moderately wealthy but don't affect the real elites. It kills me when Warren Buffet talks about raising the estate tax. His money is in stock shares and trusts, and is not affected by estate taxes. In fact his company makes a lot of money scooping up smaller family businesses devastated by estate tax bills. Notice they never talk about trusts.

[pat442389]

@TreachMarkets im def not anti rich or anti elite.. all systems have them. but the elite and "rich" are so rich and the poor are so poor its ridiculous. we do need to regulate the oil gas and other natural resources as well as wall st and other big corps. we need to double the min wage over night. our country will be destroyed within 40 years if we keep going on this pace. could a small city of 50k last if 10 guys owned 90% of the land, food and wealth? not without the other 49990 suffering

[TreachMarkets]

@pat442389 The question is how did they get their money? Did they build a better mousetrap and make their customers happy and build wealth and create good jobs, or did they use political connections to loot the country? ShamWow has happy customers, Haliburton has no-bid military contracts. That's the difference.

The government we have is corrupt by design, it will always favor the looting elites over the workers and the wealth producers.

[vcdaniels]

@TreachMarkets

There are no "wealth producers". Unless there's a Santa Claus and an Easter Bunny as well. Rich people DO NOT create jobs. They merely put help wanted signs in their windows when demand calls for more supply. I cannot expect to sell my products - no matter how many tax cuts I get - if supply-side jerkoff employers in the area refuse to pay their workers enough money to take care of necessities and still have discretionary income to shop at my store.

[TreachMarkets]

One example: the washing machine. This one device made a lot of people wealthy. It has saved countless hours of time. It's a big reason why women were able to step out of the home and get into the work force. Have you ever talked to an old woman who had to use a wash board? Scrubbing by hand for hours every week? The way that this one product changed women's lives for the better is off the charts.

The washing machine inventors and producers weren't wealth creators? That's just one example!

[vcdaniels]

@TreachMarkets

Maytag, Frigidaire and General Electric didn't invent the washing machine.

A PERSON did.

That PERSON invested LABOR into invented his device. Then through LAWS legislated by a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT, that PERSON was able to patent his invention and sell the idea to corporations. Thus capitalizing from his LABOR. Notice how LABOR preceded capital there? Just like Abraham Lincoln and every economist since Babylon mentioned?

[TreachMarkets]

@vcdaniels Your comment was that there are no wealth producers, and that rich people do not create jobs. The inventor collaborated with the companies to hire people to build a machine that improved peoples' lives.

And it wasn't labor in the way that socialists use the word. The inventor was creating intellectual CAPITAL. In fact socialists would attack the inventor for selling the invention and not just giving it away to 'the workers'. Marx would not approve...

Wealth produced!

[vcdaniels]

@TreachMarkets

A business does not hire people because they felt so happy and generous because they were getting tax breaks. AGAIN, my business doesn't make profit from tax cuts. It makes profit from customers spending their disposable income on my products.

[vcdaniels]

Inventors are often screwed by corporations rather than "collaborate" with them. So I guess that makes the corporations the real socialists - the way they privatize the gains and socialize the losses onto their consumers, but I digress. Nikolai Tesla was a prime example of someone fiscally sodomized by the rich. And as musicians are the inventors of their songs, well . . . Chuck D. said it best: "If you don't own the master, then the Master owns you".

[vcdaniels]

There's only one type of LABOR. When you put effort into the creation or maintenance of a product or service - it is LABOR. Labor always produces a product or service that was not there before. Gambling is not Labor. Speculation is not Labor. Management is not Labor. None of these things produce a previously non-existent product or service. They merely push an already existing product or service from one side of the proverbial room to the other side.

[TreachMarkets]

@vcdaniels Management doesn't produce products or services? You've never tried to produce a service more complex than carpet cleaning, I presume. Management is crucial to the success of any complex project, and just as the manager depends on the workers, the workers depend on the manager to make good calls. I would be dead in the water without a good manager at my job coordinating with the other departments and clearing obstacles in our way. You are a typical socialist 'hater'.

[kevinthenerd]

@TreachMarkets I've seen managers make horrible decisions, but the hard work of their subordinates to clean up the mess kept the balance sheet in the black and allowed them to get away with complete incompetence or laziness. Managers will always be in charge by the nature of their job (duh), and since managers set everybody's salary, they artificially inflate the earnings of their own profession. Don't kid yourself; the good-ole-boy system is alive and well.

[TreachMarkets]

@kevinthenerd Right, some managers suck, some employees suck. The organization lives or dies on the quality of each. Unless the organization is the government and has the ability to squeeze more money out of the population to make up for the mistakes its managers and employees make.

[vcdaniels]

@TreachMarkets

Two words . . . WORKER COOPERATIVES.

Workers who own and manage the factories they work in. In these cases pure management is not needed because (unlike the line corporation brainwash you with in America, apparently) management is not necessary to the production of a product.. This has proven true in France, Italy, Norway, Spain, Greece as well as the UK. The rest of us "socialist haters" realize that we don't need the rich and the corporate . . . they need US!

[TreachMarkets]

That makes no sense. My friend worked at a worker-owned cooperative grocery store and he still had a manager and his manager had a manager. Changing the ownership structure doesn't remove the need for good management.

[TreachMarkets]

@vcdaniels I'd rather have a system that was risky but still produced wealth than a system that removed opportunity from everyone. Socialism screws everyone. Everyone is more equal but is worse off. I'm a tech guy and I've studied the Soviet computer industry. It was pathetic, all knockoffs and no innovation. It's the system for people who look at more successful people and feel envy and bitterness, instead of challenging THEMSELVES to do better and improve their lot.

[TreachMarkets]

@vcdaniels Oh that's right, you're the guy who doesn't think that the washing machine produced wealth. You're the one singling out one person in the factory, the assembly worker, for special attention. I think that everyone involved is vital to the process, the inventor, the investor, the manager, the line worker, the janitor, they all are part of the process and are better off for it than they would be in a socialist system that values apparatchiks over producers.

[inflate98]

@TreachMarkets Your an ass-licking corporate toady, aren't you? Why yes, yes you are.

[TreachMarkets]

@vcdaniels Having run a business in the past, I can confirm that I make more money when taxes are lower than when they are higher. This is pretty easy arithmetic to figure out.

[inflate98]

@TreachMarkets Fuck you, corporate pig. Die in a fire.

[vcdaniels]

I'm sorry . . .

I just have to ask you . . . where do you get the idea of putting Workers in quotes. I mean, do you think that every Ford Mustang you see on the road was assembled by Alan Mulally? You do know that it was Worker who put Labor into assembling that car, right? And you do know that, if corporate officials could do that job so much better, then they could roll up their Versacci suit sleeves and get to work, right? But for some reason they dodge that work constantly.

[TreachMarkets]

@vcdaniels Your biased statement shows why I put it in quotes. I've had manual labor jobs and I've had management jobs and I've had white collar 'tech' jobs, and I was a worker in each one. When I ran my own small business I was a worker. But because socialists tend to fetishize that word I put it in quotes to show that I was limiting it to their meaning. Most jobs created in this country are created by small businessmen, who are workers but not 'workers'.

[DaHonestAbe]

Pretty good video. Bravo to you, sir.

[OpenMindedChristian1]

WHY ARE YOU NOT EVERYWHERE?

[Jenet291]

We are but the idiots listening to the fools on the top of the food chain telling us we are to blame for being at the bottom of that chain. So shut up and listen

[junior00bacon00chee]

yes, the "rich" are the problem. it's really that simple, the evil greedy bastards are just shaving all of our money off the top. and it has nothing to do with the leviathan State whatsoever. that's why we need the State to have more power to enact more laws against the greedy rich.

[Antiks72]

@junior00bacon00chee Problem is the rich own the the State. General Strike anyone? How about hundreds of thousands not filing their taxes?

[junior00bacon00chee]

@Antiks72

NOW you're talking. sounds good to me.

[mookixox]

I know the term 'RICH' gets tossed out around all the time, but what exactly is the income bracket you are referring to? Is it anyone who makes x amount of dollars per year? Or is it anyone who owns X amount of dollars? And what exactly do you define X as? Where is the line that seperates Rich from Non-Rich.

[Antiks72]

@mookixox How about the people that own most of the wealth in today's society?

[mookixox]

@Antiks72 Well that is certainly a good starting point but where do you draw the line? Warren Buffet has over 50 Billion of the worlds wealth, what about the man with 10 Billion or 1 Billion, or 999 million? I'm not disagreeing with you and I would like to fleece these rich elite bastards as much as the next guy I just want us all to be on the same page as to what income bracket truly qualifies as 'rich' from 'non rich'. The term rich is way too open to debate and popular speculation.

[Antiks72]

@mookixox Even Buffet has said his taxes should go up. How about this: we put the tax rates gradually back to the Eisenhower days until the deficit is fixed? Can government programs be streamlined? Why yes, including those budgets for our rich elitist oligarchial Congress people. They should cut all their healthcare and make em buy it on the market like everyone else.

[mookixox]

@Antiks72 That's fine tax the shit out of them, but that's just peeling off a single leech of the problems. The entire healthcare system needs to be reformed and refined. Grandma Millie is still gulping down a 1000 dollars worth of free medication each month as well as collecting a 900 dollar p month pension (that the govt drained decades ago). Nearly 25% of the us population is on food stamps and another 25% is barely making ends meet, add on these useless wars, the illegal aliens etc.

[TreachMarkets]

@mookixox Warren Buffet always advocates taxes that affect the moderately wealthy and millionaires but don't touch him and his peers. The world is more complicated than this 'Screw the Rich' mentality will accept.

[kevinthenerd]

@TreachMarkets To claim something is "complicated" is often an attempt to hide motives. Capitalism works for the few because they want to get rich, but marketing wouldn't work for these few if they freely admitted their greed. (Do you think a McDonalds commercial would work if they told you the margins on the food?) I've studied business in my free time, and I understand math beyond my engineering degree. You have some burden of proof with a claim like this. You can't hide behind ambiguity.

[TreachMarkets]

@kevinthenerd Ok, example: Small business owners and the moderately wealthy get hit with the high marginal tax rates. The super rich have loopholes galore. Yet many Democrats cry for higher taxes that will hurt the moderately wealthy but won't affect the super-rich. Small businesses are the biggest creators of jobs but get hit with the highest burden of taxes and regulations. But Democrats will be the first to cry 'where are the jobs' when small businesses can't hire.

[etzel33]

Excellent. My view exactly. Thanks for posting!

[KidOmniMan]

Hey come on now, fucking the poor is hard work and so is figuring out how to spend billions of dollars. I know how hard of a time I have trying to spend what I make, I can never decide between good food and affording an education, imagine how hard it must be to choose between buying a massive yacht or an even bigger yacht or both.

[Vegas42Prophet]

I call them sophists

[btigtime2]

Its an entitlement battle... Too bad people have put themselves in need.

[Airphel]

Lol, its the "Rich Man" that tells you "trickle down" works

[skyzefawlun]

Voted. I have but one massive favor to ask of you good sir. You do this often, include URLs in your videos, and they almost never include either a link in the description section, or an annotated link in the video window. Both of these simple solutions would likely encourage more people to take the time to visit the page you're suggesting we visit. I know, people shouldn't be that lazy, but let's be real. They are. Even if it gets one more click, is that not worth it?

[RamboSlice666]

@skyzefawlun Yeah Please post the links the the description. Great content. Nice to see these wonderful people supporting you and allowing you to produce this meaningful content.

-Dale

[ThePunkPatriot]

@skyzefawlun Hey there. The information that I'd put into the text fields for this video wasn't saved for whatever reason. It's fixed now.

[Boomer1949]

It's the ones who get screwed the hardest that scream the loudest about being screwed...trouble is they're screaming at the one who says no to being screwed, not the one who is screwing them.

[afferch]

I am amazed at how many slaves I know who really don't have a pot piss in. And yet they buy in to the rich man's dogma. And mindlessly repeat the slogans of the controlling elite. I think good propaganda and a belief system trump reality anytime. I guess thats why so many work and die for someone elses agenda." Yes we can" but no we didn't.

[FriedDaisy]

Exactly right.

[mikethebodacious]

Thanks for the great video! It is amazing when you REALLY look at history, the class system that we have today has been here since the beginning of society! Control of governments, resources, and financial instruments are the current rule of the financial lords over their peasants. This struggle has been going back and forth, and us peasants are currently losing! Education is key at this point, and thanks to you it is working!

[surfjacobson1]

"Yes sir, I be good massa". "I'll keep my head down and not say anything".

Thats exactly what corporations and the rich want.

It's modern day legal slavery. The lower classes are the slaves and the rich corporations are the slave owners.

American Democracy?... unless we take the country back its going to continue to develop into the hybrid Communist/Authoritarian/Nazi regime that its becoming.

Essentially America is turning into the very things it fought.

[billyjay]

fighting the system is hard work. its easy to submit to the life of hard work for no pay. have a kid, a family, get in an accident, spend beyond you means, go to college, and just like that..... you look back and you are trapped. grasping at the suffocating walls of debt as they close in on you. You worker harder, but only fall further. We are rats in an endless maze, every step we take, the man gets another shiny penny. Time to climb the cage! CLIMB THE CAGE!