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  • I had an 86gxl that was ABUSED by 7 owners before I became the 8th...had two transmission replacements, etc...but it still had near perfect compression on the ORIGINAL engine. Was at 176,000 miles when I got rid of it and ran like a champion, while still taking hard driving.

    I'm a firm believer that to have a good running rotary, you need to thrash the hell out of it. That's why so many FD's keep blowing engines, the owners pamper them like a british prince. Drive the damn thing already!

  • how many miles you get on that before rebuild

  • I get to rebuild my mother in laws renesis this week. 38,000 miles ftl. 80psi on the rear rotor. Piece of junk. 2.6 liter engine with only 215hp at 7000 rpms hahaha. Hope the irons are shot so we can drop an ls1 in it.

  • @ewhaddix where did you get 2.6l at ? and i bet your mother in law uses Synthetic oil , and that my friend is a no no in a rotary. before you go blast a motor that you know nothing about get your facts right ..

  • @ewhaddix You know why? It was your mother in law's car. She doesn't ever floor it does she? Rotary engines NEED to be driven. They aren't for soccer moms or women in general, haha. Sitting in traffic causes a lot of carbon buildup, which is a rotary engine's threat. I have a friend, 140,000 miles and still going strong.

  • If there's no replacement for displacement, why do rotaries get such awesome power and torque? Answer me that, Mr. Big-V8-Engine-Block Guy

  • i'am about to build myself a tri rotor ro80,,i want the rotors turnover on needlebearings,,do you have some experians with this??

  • @aji8- read a book or something, get off YouTube with everyones biased, uneducated opinion flyin around. Less moving parts=greater efficiency, greater efficiency=greater performance/power. Not to mention how these things grab the R's like a freakin crotch rocket. Jeez dude.

  • When i'm like 30 and RX7 FDs are cheaper i'm gonna buy one and pull it apart in my garage.

  • how do you go about boring one of theses when it wears out? or do you just get a new housing?

  • @brownera89 You can't bore it out. If a housing is worn, it needs to be replaced. Irons can be resurfaced to flatten them several times before they are worn out.

  • if i was mazda i would have put a one rotor engine in the mazda 2.imagine the size

    almost cut in half.no room problem whatsoever and power would probably still be more lol(probably 125 hp or so)

  • @drbaltazar the 2 rotor 12A puts out 99HP........ so why would a one rotor motor put out more?????

  • @inline88turbo Technology advances since the early 80's. The 12a was carb'ed. Using a larger single rotor with today's technology just might net better numbers, who knows, Would be a fun project I bet.

    Cheers

  • i love it when people talk s*** about the rotary but no nothing about it. i don't own one however I want the 3rd gen RX7. And people should have a respect for other engines and there history. We wouldn't be anywhere without them. Just be glad and be proud of what you have and don't disrespect other people's cars/engines. Have respect dude.

  • Wow, aji8 isn't considering the history of the reciprocating engine. Look how long they have been around, as well as how many companies are working to improve on it. How long till electronic ignition, governors, over head cams, different cylinder head designs all came out? It took several years of development to get to were we are today.

    Oh, and there are fewer companies working to improve the rotary engine design than there are the reciprocating engine design.

  • WARNING!!...........This video carries an infection...........its called the aji8 bullshit bug.....careful now.....its contagious!!!

  • aji8 dude get a life..if you don't like the rotary engine watch something else. I'm getting tired of seeing your lame comments.I have an 89rx7 and i own a mustang their both great so dont talk shit

  • im buying a 1987 rx-7 gxl and im not a pro with rotary motors but does anyone know what it will run stock in a 1/4 mile or 1/8 ?

  • @lilolliebooboo N/A S4 has like 146 HP at the Flywheel with the weight of them stock you'll do about 17 in the quarter high 10 in the 8th make sure your car is healthy before you go doggin it...

  • hey guys maybe aji8 was fuc... with a centric shaft with rotors a lot of people can accept that a 80 ci 1.3 lt engine with a lot of production parts can make thats H-P, thas make people dumb

  • I have a feeling that aji8 had a bad experience with rotaries, cuz his shear Retardedness or he got beat real badly by an rx7 and all he can do is bad mouth rotaries like a spineless pussy.

  • @pcgeekamd his v8 is his excuse for his small dick lol

  • amazing how smal they are in direct comparement of a regular engine with that output

  • man that aji8 guy is such a fag. I don't comment on every piston powered engine video trash talking them and saying rotaries are far better. He must actually be retarded

  • don't you have a job or friends dude??

  • @aji8 dont get me wrong, as of now if you don't maintain it as it should it won't last long, but if you do the maintenance they are extremely reliable.

    piston engines exist since 18th century and are made by thousands of companies worldwide.

    rotaries have been developped only by mazda and its only been 40years.

    they have done one hella good job improving it over the years. rotary engines do have more potential, if only more companies would develop it

  • @razioth suzuki put a lot of effort into the rotor back in the 70's and made a production re-5, i have also heard that audi are building a turbo diesel rotor

  • что только не собирают в росий то же есть умельцы=))

  • to aji8..... must suck to be too poor to afford to rebuild a rotary here ill give u a dollar yes roarys are pain in the ass but i dont give a shit i have fun and that is the main thing

  • dont listen to that douchebag.. all he does is troll rotary vids and talk shit.. he has a ver very small penis and can only vent on youtube since he'll get his ass kicked in real life.

  • so you have seen his penis???

  • nope he just told me he's envious of Asians.. i put 2 and 2 together

  • so you are friends with him?

    i am little lost

  • no.. he truely just trolls through every rotary video on youtube and talks shit.

  • so you stalk him?

  • Damn there's a lot of haters when it comes to this subject.... you'd think they were molested by a rotary engine as a child!

    It's OK all you angry people!

    It's an ENGINE.... Some last a long time, some don't! It usually depends on how well it's taken care of.....

    If you drive the shit out of your car and don't maintain it, that doesn't make it a bad engine when it finally dies on you!!

    Unless it's an old Vega motor or some other aluminum block....

    Cue the Vega lovers:

  • Not to mention they're CHEAP to rebuild. So ya might have to rebuild it every 50K or so for a little of nothin. At least you always have a good strong motor that's ready to rock and roll and eat about everything on the road instead of some piston motor that's got 150K on it and is all worn out and slow... Then ya rebuild that and it costs way more and takes way longer. No brainer...

  • Rotorys are good when they are running, My mate 400BHP rx7 had been rebuilt twice now, Id never own one personally

  • aji8 what grade are u in

  • couldn't the combustion holes be filled in a little to improve compression?

  • Watch this vid as you will need it quite a bit.

  • people rotary engines are bad but i don't think they are the reasons why they break is because of poor care to the engine like any other car people only say its bad cause rotary didn't get to popular but let me tell you this my grandpas for vehicles which he owned 2 or 3 of them broke more often than a rotary engine would. He has driven a toyota for a long time till an accident and now he drives a honda

  • Watch this vid rotards, you will be using it often.

  • if you hate rotarys so much why are you watching videos about them, go watch you piston engines videos and watch them rebuild those.

    But i would rebuild a rotary a 100 times before trying to rebuild a piston engine.

  • and you will get what you asked for outlawsonic. You WILL be rebuilding your rotary 100 times as you are too stupid to change.

  • rotary engines will last just long or longer as any piston motor and liter for liter make way more power. Learn your facts before you start talking like you know stuff

  • Um..you are a liar or your engine is blessed by God because rotarys don't last much over 80K stock. I think you are a liar, and probably don't even own one.

  • you're so full of shit. 80k? even twin turbo'd 13b REW engines last longer than that when they're abused. non turbo rotaries go forever. stop talking trash, there's not even an ounce of real mechanical knowledge in your head

  • LOL..yeah that is why people replace the rotary and get tired of rebuilding them but not the other way around...you are a rotard and live in a different world moron.

  • blah blah blah blah take a look at rotary aviation if you think rotaries are unreliable. if they're so unreliable why are they the number one used auto engine for aerospace applications hmmm? rotaries are extremely reliable especially in non turbo form and especially when they are maintained properly. maintenance includes not overheating them, keeping the cooling systems operational, and ensuring the oil is changed regularly and that there are no turbo problems. pretty fucking simple.

  • Yes we can look at aviation to see that piston and turbine engines dominate that scene too. You fail again. LOSER LOL

    The rotary is junk and you can't defend it...LOL

  • yawn.. moron. go visit any experimental aviation forum and see what the predominant auto engine being used is. anyway i don't usually argue with idiots and you've dragged me down lower than i usually go. i'm done with you.

  • Yeah LOL..they are still experimental after all this time because it is an experiment to see if they will hold together. What a POS powerplant. If you want to waste your time have fun!! The engines are junk and blow up.

    AGAIN you fail as you still didn't address the fact that pistons and turbines dominate the aircraft industry, but that is because you know they truth the that rotary is a joke,

  • alot of the people that comment on rotaries dont know fuck all, its all "a mate of a mate of my cousin had one and he said its shit" then you come on youtube and post stupid comments. buy one. drive it. then comment yeah?

  • has the man coughing have swine flu?

  • go and fuck your v8 and v10 holed engines

  • You are another rotard that can't accept the truth/

  • The troll is strong with this one!

  • Watch the vid rotard.

  • You act like rotarys are the only engines that need maintenance.

  • They are the only engines that need A LOT of maintenance. My piston engine requires oil, spark plug and wire changes. You can beat the crap out of the engine. The rotary needs all that plus rebuilds if you treat it the same.

  • so uhm.. what experience do you have with rotaries?

  • I owned one. Played with it. It was unique but got tiring quickly. Guys in my car group have them and are constantly working on them. I will stick with a reliable and consistent power plant any day. Rotary got pulled.

  • Beat the crap out of a piston engine you'll have problems. Blown head gaskets, heads, damaged bearings, cranks, cams, pistons, valves, blocks.

    They break about as often as each other. A rotor breaks, it's the same thing each time, rebuild time.

    A piston engine breaks, it's not necessarily a full rebuild but it'll cost you the same.

  • LOL...you are a moron. The only time I have seen that happen is when you drain the oil out prior to that. I beat the crap out of my piston engines and have yet to rebuild one due to abuse. You are wrong!!

  • guy, you are so full of shit. go try buying a used car off of craigslist and count how many out of 10 vehicles have head gasket problems or cracked blocks necessitating an engine swap.

    at least with a rotary you can rebuild it literally using a coffee can. anyone with a little patience and a helping hand can rebuild one in a day or two.

  • LOL...yeah about .000023%

    You are an idiot if you think people will actually believe your lies. One thing is for sure, you can easily find a dead rotary to swap a piston engine into....

  • I beat the crap out of my V6 daily and guess what? It is fine. You guys are just liars. Rotards do live in another reality.

  • aji8, u r the most pathetic mouthpiece ever. i see u on every video bout rotaries and seeing u put in ur two cent. who gives a fuck what u think about rotaries engines. is this how u try to make urself feel better after get ur ass handed to u by rotary powered car? or u just an attention seeker. grow the fuck up. from the way i see u goin on n on bout rotaries u sound like someone not even old enough 2 own a car. less know how to work on one.

  • Apparently plenty care what I think, as you do also. You posted a reply moron! LOL

  • what do u have against rotary engines? did it hurt ur man hood? lol. why shittin on every video? for the record i dont give a shit wat u think, i just think ur super fuckin annoyin piston head. lol

  • Too bad! If you don't like it, don't read it moron. Try and think for a change.

  • You talk a lot of shit mate.

    I personally own a rotary, which I now am rebuilding. Why?

    Blocked injectors.

    Could this have happened to a piston engine? Yes.

    Thrashing a v6 is great fun. 0 - 100 in half a week compared to a rotor.

    If you're gonna compare engines like that, compare engines that are in the same league.

    Also, why would you so stupid to thrash a daily?

  • and your next rebuild for something else is not far behind. Keep your mechanic on retainer!

  • My mechanic on a retainer?

    I'm sorry mate, I am a mechanic. I own both rotary and piston engined cars. Last 2 piston engines have had a BHG and fucked big end bearings.

    I see many piston cars in for rebuilds at work. Do you have any idea how much more complicated an engine rebuild is on a piston engine?

    A lot of my friends have piston engines. 1J's, Sr20's, RB25, RB26/30. Even got a guy with an LS1 in a 180sx.

    They've all had their share of rebuilds in the last 2 years.

  • You are NO mechanic if you find a piston engines complicated. The rotary is simple as a block but the supporting systems are much more complicated. The rotary engine bay is a mess. I know as I had to remove all that crap!

  • A piston engine with fucked internals is harder to rebuild than a rotary.

    More finesse is required, The process is longer, not to mention more costly.

  • LOL...you are an idiot if you believe that, and definitely NO mechanic. I was right and you are a liar!

  • You're not right, you're retarded. You just don't like rotaries because displacement againdt displacement they blow pistons out the window.

    I'm sorry, have you got qualifications you'd like to bring to the table? Have you done engine work before?

    Specifications and details on your rotor? things you've done to it? Have you ever rebuild it? Have you ever even opened the bonnet?

    Keep your tongue on a leash, yeah?

  • No, you are the one that is retarded as you continue to argue with fact.

    I no longer have my rotor as I yanked the junk within the first month of ownership. After owning more powerful cars, 150 h.p. just doesn't cut it. Plus I keep hearing all the complaints of frequent rebuilds. GONE

  • why haven't you killed yourself yet?

  • Most V8 lovers think torque is everything, rotary engines (not all) do not produce a lot of it. I love rotary engines for their high rpm's and sound. Ofcourse you need torque to move such heavy piece of american muscle junk.

  • @romanosalvatore hehe to true dude americans are to arrogant to accept outside cars and engines

  • @lunchboxaro And to think, my arrogant American ass has had an 81' rx7 for 2 years now. .. dewsh

  • lol yes if only we could power all construction equipment and buses on rotary motors.

  • give it a rest already. you've made your point a million times over, no-one cares what you have to say

  • how many 1.3L engines run 7 SECONDS in a quarter of mile

  • @aji8 no there is no 7 second NA rotary but there is a 9 second NA rotary 1.3L so shut it mush for brains

  • @jimmysperformance in P.R A lot of them

  • I know! I'm from PR. Most of the low 7sec rotaries have turbos built by Mike's turbo here in Miami. My question was for that stupid 8cyl obsessed guy...

  • @jimmysperformance why is he stupid?, heck ive got an 88 vert with teh stock? bbs wheels on it. deciding between rebuilding rotary or an engine transplant of some sort.

  • @jimmysperformance

    busa's:P

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  • There are much more parts in a piston engine..You are right.

  • I think I'd rather rebuild a couple of rotary engines than 1 piston engine.....

    I may be wrong, but aside from the 5 million fewer parts, it seems like you could take out and rebuild a rotary without having to use a lift, etc....

    Any engine I could take out by myself, by hand, seems like a lot less hassle!

    And NO, I'm no mechanic yet (still taking courses for my ASE), but I've been a shadetree mechanic for 20 years.....

  • Unless you can lift 80 - 90kg out of the engine bay you'll steal need assistance.

    You can't take it out by hand. It's light, but not that light. It's no more difficult that a regular 1.3L displacement engine. You'll still need an A frame or engine crane.

  • Well that's crummy, but it still looks like a lot less hassle!

    Thnx 4 the reply.

  • guy had a bad experience with rotary motors and wants to piss and moan about it...wah wah wah

  • 200,000 miles on the engine. $500.00 rebuilds. You guys are so full of shit it isn't funny.

  • how long does it take to do a typical rebuild?

  • I have 198,000 on my car.

  • yeah every 150,000 to 200,000 miles when taken care of lol. Nice try.

  • DREAMER!!! LOL and a fool.

  • The fool protest he knows everything. Try to be less aggressive when you stating something that you can't back up ok. Bridgeports need rebuilds every 6 months. Renesis in the 3rd and 4th gens have are poorly built I'll admit. But the late 80s early 90s (S4-S5) where the glory years. Why do you think the FC3s is favored all over the world in rotary sports? If you like I can email you a pic or vid of my odometer and starting my car.

  • Finally we get some truth about the poor reliability of the rotary. Good for you. One of the few rotards that can admit to that.

    Sure, you can send whatever you wish. I can look at it.

  • Not to mention Ford engineering in the later models. Your rebuilds are thanks to that.

  • LOL..More excuses. I am sure you don't have any proof to back that up. A Wanker engine is a wanker.

  • 787b

  • My 1988 RX-7 has gone 145,000 miles before needing a 500 dollar rebuild... and to top that off, the car still basically works, but it's massively underpowered. It will get you home!

  • My '88 SE has 244,000 and still climbing. :D

  • My '88 GTU had 250k on it before it stopped running. Why? Coils. Not the engine. I sold it after I got it repaired. It ran strong and had no issues *engine wise*.

  • better than hot chicks dirty panties

  • i never realized how small those apex seals are

  • Rotary engines use a small amount of oil, usually a ratio of 100:1. This is to give a good seal at the rotor tips. They produce power about every revolution, hence the high output. Also there is no need to covert rociprocating motion into rotary motion. Everything moves round and round, thus saving potential power loss.

  • these idiots don't know what the fuck your doing

  • I don't see how these little motors put out so much power.

  • there is much you dont know about yet. try to research the 2b 4 rotor from gozo malta. very powerful and a new rotary design.

  • rebuilding isn't the hard part, porting is the hard part, mess that up and you're lookin at buying a new rotor housing

  • actually if you mess up the porting you will need a new iron not a housing.

  • uhhh unless your porting the exhaust.... or PPorts

  • true. but there isnt that many times where your porting the exhaust so big that you could mess it up that bad.

  • about$1250 buck kit

  • very nice, does anybody know if wankels are really need alot less manintance

  • haha... hahahaha.

  • you have to keep an eye on your oil level if is a daily driver mazda engine mix their oil with gas like a 2 sicle trimer beside that is just like a regular engine,hope that aswer your quetion .

  • That is the smallest Rotary engine I have seen. O_O

  • These guy's dont even have a rotary engine stand

  • how much should it cost to rebuild a 13b as fitter to a fd if you do it your self .apex seals gaskets etc

  • Um, it depends, really. There are, of course, many costs besides the parts themselves. You can get a master rebuild kit at Atkins rotary. The total cost to do a simple rebuild is about 500-700 dollars. That's a rough estimate, though. I'm rebuilding mine right now.

  • Great video guys.

  • this guy does'nt even have a engine stand!

  • would u like to rebuild mine lol

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