@Rob260259 You Bet ! I've been watching it again and seeing little details I missed, I love these stock films ! even as light as it was made, after all the consumables (fuel, oxidizer, breathing oxygen, reserves and back ups etc ) the weight adds up quick. thats 16 tons when it's completely assembled ! I like to imagine what they might have come up with if weight had not been an overriding consideration. they may have had a much larger LM enabling much longer stay on the surface.
Great detail on the crumple technology used on the landing gear. Such technology begs the question, "If it was all a fake, who cares how good the landing gear is?"
Cool to see how everything was hermetically sealed until the last minute. I live in Florida, so I understand exactly why. I know they said the LM was ugly, but there's a definite beauty to seeing it created. This is as compelling as any video designed to defend the truth of Apollo. Thx!!!
No it was not ugly. It was pure engineering applied to a problem. They did not always get it right first time though, when the first one made was pressure tested one of the windows failed.
Eh... well, yes I agree, it was certainly not ugly from an engineering perspective. But ... every time I watch this magnificent but strange machinery, I get this feeling that its aestetics didn't matter whatsoever. In that way I mean it was not a 'handsome' bird. And (I'll be honest) I stole the words 'ugly machine' from a NASA spokesman at the time.
But hey.. it sure was the machine that brought man on the Moon.
I find myself coming back to this. Music not to my taste but you can't please everyone. As a kid I watched these rockets take off and was in awe of the scale of it all. Forty odd years later it has never been matched and an army of idiot who never took the trouble to study film like this tell us it never happened.
I just wish there was more film available of the Russian effort which must have been spectacular as well even though they failed to make a reliable heavy lift vehicle.
Yep, the music scores are my synths and computers & editors, but the idea is coming from my son. Have you checked some of my other videos? I'm still studying music and sound effect machinery and arpeggiators & stuff. More to come...
I agree with you; I wish we could see more of the former Soviet space program. I'm sure there's a lot of footage (I saw some of it during my work in the navy).
My taste in music is of minor consequence ....... just keep up the good work. The hoax myth has bitten like a cancer and it seems that an entire generation of kids who never had any technical education have been taken in. There is no doubt that the Apollo missions came closer to disaster than anyone admitted but they DID happen. We need more vids like this to show the incredible scale of this project and educate the ones that want to learn something.
@TheSpiritof1969 I was reading some more about the Saturn V & Werner von Braun once said that it was the S1-C first stage that got the brute airborne and moving but it was actually the S-II ultra lightweight second stage using LH2 & LOX that made it possible to achieve orbit carrying the S-IVB and a lunar payload, something the Soviets using RP-1 & LOX in all of their stages never were able to achieve. The 1st Saturn prototype: Nova, would have stood over 565 ft tall and used 8 F-1 engines !
I assume it was never built, it would have been a hell of a firework. I watched Apollo17 blast off and I reckon the fire must have been 4 and 6 hundred feet behind it. I was about 3 1/2 miles away from it and the noise was incredible.
@TheSpiritof1969 your right, it only existed on paper as far as I know the Huntsville gang went straight to the Saturn-I. yeah baby it woulda been a show stopper for sure but it was a single stage to orbit early concept. as soon as the cooler heads in the group persuaded Werner to go with the multiple staging design, Saturn was already on the drawing boards. 5 F-1's sounded more reasonable than 8 ! lol
Man I envy you !! I wish I woulda lived back east to see that monster launch ! OMG !
We flew from England to NY and worked our way down to the Cape. When I first saw that beast it sent a shiver down my spine. Throughout the day of the launch we watched the comings and goings and and people and cars looked tiny below it.
The sheer audacity that anyone should build such a thing baffles me to this day. The launch that night was a very emotional thing and those two English kids were screaming it on as it pulled away.
@TheSpiritof1969 Man thats incredible, a once in a lifetime experience ! they say it is still the most powerful machine ever built. I agree. seeing it on film is awe inspiring I can only imagine the perspective of being there in person to really judge the scale !
LMAO, I would have been screaming too ! I may not have been able to hear myself but I would have been cheering it on as well ! I drive the wife nuts watching launch videos at full volume at home trying to duplicate the sound ! lol
No film of the launches I have seen since have come close to conveying the experience of seeing it with your own eyes.
There was some icing on the cake a couple of days later when those 2 19 year olds were doing some yard clearing for the price of a meal. The two women that owed the place showed us some real American hospitality we weren't expecting and cooked us breakfast ... but that is another story. lol
@TheSpiritof1969 Thats awesome ! I would have really cherished being there ! yes I had some short travels back in the day with similar experiences, thankfully I met some gracious people. of course back in the 60-70's there was more consideration and decency IMO. a young guy could travel around cavalier and meet some really fine folks, you still can but it's not so innocent anymore. man I really do envy you being there !
We were invited into peoples homes and I would tell them how I used to visit the Russian embassy in London to collect visas for a travel company. The waiting room was awash with stuff on the Russian space successes and our American hosts seemed fascinated that I had actually spoken to real live Russians who had the same feeling of pride in their own space program.
Some seemed amazed that Russians were even human back then, such was the cold war.
@TheSpiritof1969 Yes Pop's did some traveling to Russia back about 2000, 2002 consulting for Raytheon. he had some good stories !
I still like to go home and find the HD Apollo 8 launch on here and turn up the PC surround sound almost to full blast and shake the windows to try and recreate what it must have been like.the wife hates it when I do it but.....what are ya gonna do ? Im just a big kid at heart lol. ! ( the neighbors tell me they can hear it very well, snicker )
Wonderful to see the ingenuity of these people in action!
I wonder how long it will be until a manned Mars mission is attempted.
When you think we were capable of this way back in the sixties surely with the advancements that have since been made we should at least have a shot at Mars!
You know what makes me mad is that all these brilliant engineers who worked to accomplish such a feat are usually never given due credit, especially in the media. All it's about is the astronauts and supervising managers, etc. Those are the true geniuses behind the work of Apollo.
Well, most of the astronauts themselves give a whole lot of credit and respect to all the thousands of men and women behind the Apollo program. Especially Neil Armstrong, who has always been a modest, almost humble astronaut, a pilot, 'just' focusing on the task at hand, as he said in an interview.
@Rob260259 That's nice to hear. And btw, is the majority of stock footage from the early Soviet Space Program disclosed? It would be cool if you were to make a tribute video like this except based on the workings of all the engineers/scientists in the USSR. It would be grateful not just because they were the first to accomplish these endeavors, but also because despite the totalitarian regime watching their every move, they still managed to overcome the obstacles and fulfill their nation's wish-
Yep, that would be very cool indeed. I'm not sure, but there isn't much footage I've seen. I've writen several former Soviet engineers and guys that worked on the program, but sofar I didn't get much info. Anyway, I'm still studying the engineering on Apollo in general. And that is a WHOLE lot of stuff...!
Good video, Rob. And top notch music composition, as always.
It makes me wonder just how much footage there is of the work done in building the LM. Just the small amount your showed here should be enough to give any doubter some pause. Would they really go to all that effort for something that was fake?
Footage like that helps viewers realize how down to Earth the effort behind the scenes of Apollo program was. It was about real people, real work and real results.
Very nice. Splendid video footage. I particularly like the musical score starting at roughly 4:00 into the video. Your remarks at the end of the video are inspiring to everyone who appreciates the cultural significance of the Apollo program and landing on another world.
Thanks. Yep, the part between 3:50 and 5:00 is my favorite music, to be honest. My son said I had to try the BeatBox, Drum 'n Bass and other rhythm features of the synth and the Digital Editor a little more.... so may be I'll get an invitation for some house party in Amsterdam, soon... LOL
@Rob260259 cool I have a LM scale model with the astronaut figures the flag the camera, a saturn V rocket with the stages, a lunar rover I like to collect apollo scale models :)
@echozgus I read a recent news article which mentioned that a group of professional astronomers are planning to search for Snoopy. Wouldn't it be marvelous if they manage to locate Snoopy?
Wow..! Didn't know about that. That would be something. I can't imagine what kind of calculations are done in such a determination of that heliocentric orbit . I mean, it would be... astronomic!
Thanks. In my opinion, the Lunar Module was the finest piece of space equipment ever built. A machine that was the world's first true spacecraft in that it was capable of operation only in outer space.
Great space engineering video!
andschannll 2 months ago
@andschannll
Thanks!
Rob260259 2 months ago
Awesome video Rob ! I think I'll favorite this one !
1MtnBoy 4 months ago
@1MtnBoy
Thanks!
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259 You Bet ! I've been watching it again and seeing little details I missed, I love these stock films ! even as light as it was made, after all the consumables (fuel, oxidizer, breathing oxygen, reserves and back ups etc ) the weight adds up quick. thats 16 tons when it's completely assembled ! I like to imagine what they might have come up with if weight had not been an overriding consideration. they may have had a much larger LM enabling much longer stay on the surface.
1MtnBoy 4 months ago
Priceless footage! Kickin' track!
Great detail on the crumple technology used on the landing gear. Such technology begs the question, "If it was all a fake, who cares how good the landing gear is?"
Cool to see how everything was hermetically sealed until the last minute. I live in Florida, so I understand exactly why. I know they said the LM was ugly, but there's a definite beauty to seeing it created. This is as compelling as any video designed to defend the truth of Apollo. Thx!!!
LunarTuner 4 months ago
@LunarTuner
Thank you LT. Yes, the LM was an ugly machine, but awesome and beautiful at the same time.
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259
No it was not ugly. It was pure engineering applied to a problem. They did not always get it right first time though, when the first one made was pressure tested one of the windows failed.
TheSpiritof1969 4 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969
Eh... well, yes I agree, it was certainly not ugly from an engineering perspective. But ... every time I watch this magnificent but strange machinery, I get this feeling that its aestetics didn't matter whatsoever. In that way I mean it was not a 'handsome' bird. And (I'll be honest) I stole the words 'ugly machine' from a NASA spokesman at the time.
But hey.. it sure was the machine that brought man on the Moon.
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259
I find myself coming back to this. Music not to my taste but you can't please everyone. As a kid I watched these rockets take off and was in awe of the scale of it all. Forty odd years later it has never been matched and an army of idiot who never took the trouble to study film like this tell us it never happened.
I just wish there was more film available of the Russian effort which must have been spectacular as well even though they failed to make a reliable heavy lift vehicle.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969
Yep, the music scores are my synths and computers & editors, but the idea is coming from my son. Have you checked some of my other videos? I'm still studying music and sound effect machinery and arpeggiators & stuff. More to come...
I agree with you; I wish we could see more of the former Soviet space program. I'm sure there's a lot of footage (I saw some of it during my work in the navy).
Rob260259 3 months ago
@Rob260259
My taste in music is of minor consequence ....... just keep up the good work. The hoax myth has bitten like a cancer and it seems that an entire generation of kids who never had any technical education have been taken in. There is no doubt that the Apollo missions came closer to disaster than anyone admitted but they DID happen. We need more vids like this to show the incredible scale of this project and educate the ones that want to learn something.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 I was reading some more about the Saturn V & Werner von Braun once said that it was the S1-C first stage that got the brute airborne and moving but it was actually the S-II ultra lightweight second stage using LH2 & LOX that made it possible to achieve orbit carrying the S-IVB and a lunar payload, something the Soviets using RP-1 & LOX in all of their stages never were able to achieve. The 1st Saturn prototype: Nova, would have stood over 565 ft tall and used 8 F-1 engines !
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@1MtnBoy
I assume it was never built, it would have been a hell of a firework. I watched Apollo17 blast off and I reckon the fire must have been 4 and 6 hundred feet behind it. I was about 3 1/2 miles away from it and the noise was incredible.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 your right, it only existed on paper as far as I know the Huntsville gang went straight to the Saturn-I. yeah baby it woulda been a show stopper for sure but it was a single stage to orbit early concept. as soon as the cooler heads in the group persuaded Werner to go with the multiple staging design, Saturn was already on the drawing boards. 5 F-1's sounded more reasonable than 8 ! lol
Man I envy you !! I wish I woulda lived back east to see that monster launch ! OMG !
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@1MtnBoy
We flew from England to NY and worked our way down to the Cape. When I first saw that beast it sent a shiver down my spine. Throughout the day of the launch we watched the comings and goings and and people and cars looked tiny below it.
The sheer audacity that anyone should build such a thing baffles me to this day. The launch that night was a very emotional thing and those two English kids were screaming it on as it pulled away.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 Man thats incredible, a once in a lifetime experience ! they say it is still the most powerful machine ever built. I agree. seeing it on film is awe inspiring I can only imagine the perspective of being there in person to really judge the scale !
LMAO, I would have been screaming too ! I may not have been able to hear myself but I would have been cheering it on as well ! I drive the wife nuts watching launch videos at full volume at home trying to duplicate the sound ! lol
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@1MtnBoy
No film of the launches I have seen since have come close to conveying the experience of seeing it with your own eyes.
There was some icing on the cake a couple of days later when those 2 19 year olds were doing some yard clearing for the price of a meal. The two women that owed the place showed us some real American hospitality we weren't expecting and cooked us breakfast ... but that is another story. lol
The politics suck but I love that country.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 Thats awesome ! I would have really cherished being there ! yes I had some short travels back in the day with similar experiences, thankfully I met some gracious people. of course back in the 60-70's there was more consideration and decency IMO. a young guy could travel around cavalier and meet some really fine folks, you still can but it's not so innocent anymore. man I really do envy you being there !
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@1MtnBoy
We were invited into peoples homes and I would tell them how I used to visit the Russian embassy in London to collect visas for a travel company. The waiting room was awash with stuff on the Russian space successes and our American hosts seemed fascinated that I had actually spoken to real live Russians who had the same feeling of pride in their own space program.
Some seemed amazed that Russians were even human back then, such was the cold war.
TheSpiritof1969 3 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 Yes Pop's did some traveling to Russia back about 2000, 2002 consulting for Raytheon. he had some good stories !
I still like to go home and find the HD Apollo 8 launch on here and turn up the PC surround sound almost to full blast and shake the windows to try and recreate what it must have been like.the wife hates it when I do it but.....what are ya gonna do ? Im just a big kid at heart lol. ! ( the neighbors tell me they can hear it very well, snicker )
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
Dig the beat. I give it a 10. Who did you quote at the end?
philwebb59 4 months ago
@philwebb59
Thanks! Most of it I read in books about the engineering on Apollo. I'm not sure, but this comes from W. David Woods.
Rob260259 4 months ago
Wonderful to see the ingenuity of these people in action!
I wonder how long it will be until a manned Mars mission is attempted.
When you think we were capable of this way back in the sixties surely with the advancements that have since been made we should at least have a shot at Mars!
Cool vid by the way!
RandomVortex 4 months ago
@RandomVortex
Thanks.
Rob260259 4 months ago
You know what makes me mad is that all these brilliant engineers who worked to accomplish such a feat are usually never given due credit, especially in the media. All it's about is the astronauts and supervising managers, etc. Those are the true geniuses behind the work of Apollo.
Awesome video, man.
booste30 4 months ago
@booste30
Thanks.
Well, most of the astronauts themselves give a whole lot of credit and respect to all the thousands of men and women behind the Apollo program. Especially Neil Armstrong, who has always been a modest, almost humble astronaut, a pilot, 'just' focusing on the task at hand, as he said in an interview.
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259 That's nice to hear. And btw, is the majority of stock footage from the early Soviet Space Program disclosed? It would be cool if you were to make a tribute video like this except based on the workings of all the engineers/scientists in the USSR. It would be grateful not just because they were the first to accomplish these endeavors, but also because despite the totalitarian regime watching their every move, they still managed to overcome the obstacles and fulfill their nation's wish-
booste30 4 months ago
@booste30
Yep, that would be very cool indeed. I'm not sure, but there isn't much footage I've seen. I've writen several former Soviet engineers and guys that worked on the program, but sofar I didn't get much info. Anyway, I'm still studying the engineering on Apollo in general. And that is a WHOLE lot of stuff...!
I agree with you totally btw.
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259 -on behalf of their scientific aspirations.
booste30 4 months ago
Good video, Rob. And top notch music composition, as always.
It makes me wonder just how much footage there is of the work done in building the LM. Just the small amount your showed here should be enough to give any doubter some pause. Would they really go to all that effort for something that was fake?
Astrobrant2 4 months ago
@Astrobrant2
Thanks Brant. I think there are hundreds of videos about the LM, the designing and engineering.
Rob260259 4 months ago
@40390576
Thanks!
Rob260259 4 months ago
Very cool video and music, Rob!
Footage like that helps viewers realize how down to Earth the effort behind the scenes of Apollo program was. It was about real people, real work and real results.
BlisterHiker 4 months ago
@BlisterHiker
Thanks BH. The video is going to be watched next week by some teachers at a technical college here. I hope they share your comment.
Rob260259 4 months ago
WAIT! I thought the Lunar Module was made of balsa wood and paper?
Something's not right here....
TheEvilOfScientology 4 months ago
@TheEvilOfScientology
Ghehe.. I have one here. Made of balsa and plastic....!
Rob260259 4 months ago
That goes on the "Top Gear" cool wall ;)
PETE4REALITY 4 months ago
WOW! Another GREAT video! Thanks Rob!
dan91709 4 months ago
@dan91709
Thank you!
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259 :-)
dan91709 4 months ago
Very nice. Splendid video footage. I particularly like the musical score starting at roughly 4:00 into the video. Your remarks at the end of the video are inspiring to everyone who appreciates the cultural significance of the Apollo program and landing on another world.
GoneToPlaid 4 months ago
@GoneToPlaid
Thanks. Yep, the part between 3:50 and 5:00 is my favorite music, to be honest. My son said I had to try the BeatBox, Drum 'n Bass and other rhythm features of the synth and the Digital Editor a little more.... so may be I'll get an invitation for some house party in Amsterdam, soon... LOL
Rob260259 4 months ago
Cool machine still one left in orbit around the sun "Snoopy" from Apollo 10 I hope one day can be found.
echozgus 4 months ago
@echozgus
Eh.. the only ascent stage of a LM still being in orbit you mean... I visited LM-9 at the KSC!
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259 cool I have a LM scale model with the astronaut figures the flag the camera, a saturn V rocket with the stages, a lunar rover I like to collect apollo scale models :)
echozgus 4 months ago
@echozgus I read a recent news article which mentioned that a group of professional astronomers are planning to search for Snoopy. Wouldn't it be marvelous if they manage to locate Snoopy?
GoneToPlaid 4 months ago
@GoneToPlaid
Wow..! Didn't know about that. That would be something. I can't imagine what kind of calculations are done in such a determination of that heliocentric orbit . I mean, it would be... astronomic!
Rob260259 4 months ago
Nice one Robbie. Hopefully, in about 9 months I can produce my free to all book that takes Jarrah apart. Looking forward to ripping that idiot.
HiggsBosonNova 4 months ago
@HiggsBosonNova
Thanks! Can't wait for your writing!
Rob260259 4 months ago
nice beat :D
MrBeresterk 4 months ago
@MrBeresterk
135bpm (misschien iets voor een after party...?)
Rob260259 4 months ago
Doesn't look like you could poke a finger thru' it to me.
Sweet vid' Rob.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead
Thanks. In my opinion, the Lunar Module was the finest piece of space equipment ever built. A machine that was the world's first true spacecraft in that it was capable of operation only in outer space.
Rob260259 4 months ago 2