does anyone else agree that penn bjj game is overrated for mma? i know penn has more credentials in bjj but that was with gi. no gi and gi are two completely different games. and mma is obviously no gi. what has bj done in the ufc using bjj? rear naked chokes and some defensive guard. diaz has submitted using armbar, rnc, kimura, triangle. he also sweeps like crazy. even if bj's jj is "better" he doesn't use it in mma nearly as well as diaz does.
@cleanjimmy i know. i train bjj. i'm not saying bj isn't good. i'm saying that diaz is much better at utilizing it in mma. are you really going to give an example of how bj got back to guard from someone's side control? that happens in 95% of the fights. getting to guard isn't that big of a deal when you are as flexible as penn. and when gsp, who is terrible at bjj, is the one who put you is side control. i think diaz's mma grappling is far better. except for penn's ultimate tdd.
@cleanjimmy also, diaz's guard is far better than bj's. everyone agrees on that. in the end. i can see diaz tapping bj 10 out of 10 times on the mat in no gi jj. gi may be a different story. but like i said, the gi isn't used in mma.
the reason why you may believe his guard is better is because you've seen him diaz on his back a lot. while BJ never really has anyone that puts him there other than old hughes and GSP. and really who subs those guys off their back?
@tippzz maybe. i may have been wrong when i say diaz's guard is "far better" but i think diaz far more active and poses more problems for anyone on top. penn's tdd is what keeps him off his back. like i said bj has amazing bjj background but i haven't seen anything incredible in the cage aside from his bjj defense. even then hughes, fitch, and gsp all beat his ass while he was on bottom. but that's somewhat understandable given the size difference between penn and those bigger wrestlers.
and further more those dudes employ a grinding pace that diaz does not with the utilization of their wrestling.
all in all i think that the fight stays on its feet and that who boxes better wins. minimal heavy puncher vs infinite smaller accurate puncher. i seriously think its who's ever jab works better wins. if BJ can snake in and out he's got it but if Diaz pops him from the outside coming in, its gonna be a long night for him. what do you think?
@tippzz bj scares me in this fight as i am rooting for diaz. the accurate puncher is far more dangerous than the power puncher that is daley. however, diaz eats jabs for breakfast. we all know what diaz's boxing does to his opponents. he grinds them out on the feet. they ALL become exhausted and can't keep the pace. bj is horrible at keeping up the pace. if nick can weather the early strikes from bj then diaz will work every angle like usual and finish an exhausted penn.
i disagree just because the term MMA actually refers to how disciplines are mixed together to employ a fighting style. with that said, Bj does that very well and transitions between striking, wrestling and JJ seemlessly. even if he's not as skill as say a Diaz in no GI, his overall MMA nullifies that, as seen again say a Jon Fitch who was unquestionably the better wrestler and the bigger man (25lbs atleast).
@tippzz remember that although he had a successful 8 minutes in the cage with fitch he got his ass handed to him in a 8-10 round where fitch out wrestled him and beat his ass. i think fitch was taken by surprise that penn came to wrestle. that was a good game plan versus a bad game plan in my opinion. if they went again fitch would do to him what he does to everyone besides gsp. but who knows. that first round is a dangerous round when up against penn. unfortunately he gasses too easily.
and with no disrespect to Diaz, the reason he gets those subs is because he's put on his back a million times more than BJ. Im not saying Bj will get those subs off his back if he's put there but really theres only been 3 guys that put him on his back and they've all been a lot larger, Wrestlers, fought BJ at 170lbs, with good JJ defense, and a grinding pace (Fitch, Hughes, GSP).
@tippzz true. penn's tdd is superb & nick's is m.i.a. but nick likes to be on his back so he doesn't mind going there. he has more subs than penn. granted they are on easier opponents but for the opponents he fought he felt comfortable being on his back because he knows he has an advantage there. when i roll at the gym there are some guys that try to take me down and then there are guys that immediately sit and try to get me in their guard. penn and diaz are 2 different ground fighters that way.
penn is mentally fucked. this business as usual for diaz. i think diaz will break penn mentally in the first round if he's not broken already. penn breaks easily when he isn't in total control and no one can control diaz. penn's game plan is going out the window.
Diaz just like B is a complete fighter with one weakness... no takedown defense. Most if this is because hes comfortable off his back. The problem is judges in MMA look at takedowns that do no damage as big points and Diaz will get out pointed.
Sorry Daley was 1 fight out of the UFC title before he lost. Its not who hes fought its how he beat them. You know a fighters good when Dana will admit a fighter thats not signed to UFC is good, and dana did that many times with diaz. Lets be real if BJ even thinks about standing with him he will get the s%$# beat out of him. But this is a possible #1 contender fight so this will be a wrestleFuc% for 3 rounds.
@123swray Wow, fight analysis FAIL. First, these two do not wrestle; never have in their previous fights, and we won't see it in this one. Second, neither of these two will have an advantage on the feet, because BJ is also a great boxer and has knocked out plenty of guys. This will probably be a heated striking match that at some point goes to the ground (someone will trip of get knocked down) and then it will become a bjj match, with one of them eventually sinking in a sub. Could go either way.
@1norcal415 No disrespect but learn to read a post for what it actually says not comment to start a argument. Did I even say Diaz will wrestle...no because any fan of diaz will tell ya he doesnt wrestle but it is his biggest weakness. So what if your good off you back it doesnt mean a thing because he wont sub BJ and its only a 3 round fight. You really think for a second BJ will stand with him for 3 rounds when a title shot is next for the winner.
@123swray Well they did end up standing for 3 rounds, so you're totally wrong there. But you were right about BJ getting his ass kicked, that's for sure LOL. Peace.
war BJ! It will be a sad day if BJ loses to this nut job. He was handed a title shot by beating up lesser guys in a lesser organization. None of the guys he beat were in top 10. BJ is top ten in two weight classes. BJ better show up though, and stop this dude from ever being a title contender again. Diaz hype train stops here! Do it, BJ!
@777wanabe srs wtf u talkin about bro. if u want to talk about gifted title shots then bj was gifted his shot against hughes when he never even competed in the division!
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TastyRazor 3 months ago
BJ has not belonged in professional fighting for years now he is full of excuses as to why he rarely performs well.
Tony007corp 4 months ago
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freedbirk 4 months ago
Thats Alan goes. Penns jiu jitsu coach
njl22222 4 months ago
Pra quem gosta de mma e assiste freguêntemente apostara na vitória de Nick Diaz mas nunca podemos duvidar sa capacidae de bj penn,q vença o melhor.
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can't wait for this
mistadobalina29 4 months ago
What did bj say?
siscojr13 4 months ago
should be a good one. can't wait
skaterdude14b 4 months ago
Changing levels is good just hope they dont butt heads in the fight.
Svenavich 4 months ago
Theres the diaz I fucking know and love!
pancakenoise 4 months ago
does anyone else agree that penn bjj game is overrated for mma? i know penn has more credentials in bjj but that was with gi. no gi and gi are two completely different games. and mma is obviously no gi. what has bj done in the ufc using bjj? rear naked chokes and some defensive guard. diaz has submitted using armbar, rnc, kimura, triangle. he also sweeps like crazy. even if bj's jj is "better" he doesn't use it in mma nearly as well as diaz does.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@mustache9000
No, BJJ is more than submitting opponents.
There is a classic gif of BJ taking guard back from GSP's sidecontrol, it perfectly shows how good he is.
cleanjimmy 4 months ago
@cleanjimmy i know. i train bjj. i'm not saying bj isn't good. i'm saying that diaz is much better at utilizing it in mma. are you really going to give an example of how bj got back to guard from someone's side control? that happens in 95% of the fights. getting to guard isn't that big of a deal when you are as flexible as penn. and when gsp, who is terrible at bjj, is the one who put you is side control. i think diaz's mma grappling is far better. except for penn's ultimate tdd.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@cleanjimmy also, diaz's guard is far better than bj's. everyone agrees on that. in the end. i can see diaz tapping bj 10 out of 10 times on the mat in no gi jj. gi may be a different story. but like i said, the gi isn't used in mma.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@mustache9000
the reason why you may believe his guard is better is because you've seen him diaz on his back a lot. while BJ never really has anyone that puts him there other than old hughes and GSP. and really who subs those guys off their back?
tippzz 4 months ago
@tippzz maybe. i may have been wrong when i say diaz's guard is "far better" but i think diaz far more active and poses more problems for anyone on top. penn's tdd is what keeps him off his back. like i said bj has amazing bjj background but i haven't seen anything incredible in the cage aside from his bjj defense. even then hughes, fitch, and gsp all beat his ass while he was on bottom. but that's somewhat understandable given the size difference between penn and those bigger wrestlers.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@mustache9000
and further more those dudes employ a grinding pace that diaz does not with the utilization of their wrestling.
all in all i think that the fight stays on its feet and that who boxes better wins. minimal heavy puncher vs infinite smaller accurate puncher. i seriously think its who's ever jab works better wins. if BJ can snake in and out he's got it but if Diaz pops him from the outside coming in, its gonna be a long night for him. what do you think?
tippzz 4 months ago
@tippzz bj scares me in this fight as i am rooting for diaz. the accurate puncher is far more dangerous than the power puncher that is daley. however, diaz eats jabs for breakfast. we all know what diaz's boxing does to his opponents. he grinds them out on the feet. they ALL become exhausted and can't keep the pace. bj is horrible at keeping up the pace. if nick can weather the early strikes from bj then diaz will work every angle like usual and finish an exhausted penn.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@mustache9000
i disagree just because the term MMA actually refers to how disciplines are mixed together to employ a fighting style. with that said, Bj does that very well and transitions between striking, wrestling and JJ seemlessly. even if he's not as skill as say a Diaz in no GI, his overall MMA nullifies that, as seen again say a Jon Fitch who was unquestionably the better wrestler and the bigger man (25lbs atleast).
tippzz 4 months ago
@tippzz remember that although he had a successful 8 minutes in the cage with fitch he got his ass handed to him in a 8-10 round where fitch out wrestled him and beat his ass. i think fitch was taken by surprise that penn came to wrestle. that was a good game plan versus a bad game plan in my opinion. if they went again fitch would do to him what he does to everyone besides gsp. but who knows. that first round is a dangerous round when up against penn. unfortunately he gasses too easily.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@mustache9000
and with no disrespect to Diaz, the reason he gets those subs is because he's put on his back a million times more than BJ. Im not saying Bj will get those subs off his back if he's put there but really theres only been 3 guys that put him on his back and they've all been a lot larger, Wrestlers, fought BJ at 170lbs, with good JJ defense, and a grinding pace (Fitch, Hughes, GSP).
tippzz 4 months ago
@tippzz true. penn's tdd is superb & nick's is m.i.a. but nick likes to be on his back so he doesn't mind going there. he has more subs than penn. granted they are on easier opponents but for the opponents he fought he felt comfortable being on his back because he knows he has an advantage there. when i roll at the gym there are some guys that try to take me down and then there are guys that immediately sit and try to get me in their guard. penn and diaz are 2 different ground fighters that way.
mustache9000 4 months ago
@mustache9000
agreed
tippzz 4 months ago
Nick wins by goin hard in da paint
Semtex0809 4 months ago
lol so fake
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penn is mentally fucked. this business as usual for diaz. i think diaz will break penn mentally in the first round if he's not broken already. penn breaks easily when he isn't in total control and no one can control diaz. penn's game plan is going out the window.
mustache9000 4 months ago
war bj
Kuzarkit 4 months ago
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mustache9000 4 months ago
Diaz just like B is a complete fighter with one weakness... no takedown defense. Most if this is because hes comfortable off his back. The problem is judges in MMA look at takedowns that do no damage as big points and Diaz will get out pointed.
123swray 4 months ago
Sorry Daley was 1 fight out of the UFC title before he lost. Its not who hes fought its how he beat them. You know a fighters good when Dana will admit a fighter thats not signed to UFC is good, and dana did that many times with diaz. Lets be real if BJ even thinks about standing with him he will get the s%$# beat out of him. But this is a possible #1 contender fight so this will be a wrestleFuc% for 3 rounds.
123swray 4 months ago
@123swray Wow, fight analysis FAIL. First, these two do not wrestle; never have in their previous fights, and we won't see it in this one. Second, neither of these two will have an advantage on the feet, because BJ is also a great boxer and has knocked out plenty of guys. This will probably be a heated striking match that at some point goes to the ground (someone will trip of get knocked down) and then it will become a bjj match, with one of them eventually sinking in a sub. Could go either way.
1norcal415 4 months ago
@1norcal415 No disrespect but learn to read a post for what it actually says not comment to start a argument. Did I even say Diaz will wrestle...no because any fan of diaz will tell ya he doesnt wrestle but it is his biggest weakness. So what if your good off you back it doesnt mean a thing because he wont sub BJ and its only a 3 round fight. You really think for a second BJ will stand with him for 3 rounds when a title shot is next for the winner.
123swray 4 months ago
@123swray Well they did end up standing for 3 rounds, so you're totally wrong there. But you were right about BJ getting his ass kicked, that's for sure LOL. Peace.
1norcal415 4 months ago
WAR BJ
Majorleozinho 4 months ago
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don't be scared homie
realbammargera 4 months ago
I feel sorry for Nick's mother!!!
pkpelon1 4 months ago
WAAAAR DIAZ!
JaPa56097 4 months ago
I can't hear what BJ says. "He's a good opponent______fight"
Svet69 4 months ago
@Svet69 let's have the fight
ethiopiantribe 4 months ago
@ethiopiantribe thanks
Svet69 4 months ago
damn bj looks out of shape here. i really hope he's able to pull off a victory
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lets see what Diaz is capable of in the UFC
jvrdlc 4 months ago
Allan Goes trains BJ since when?
FIVEstarFRO 4 months ago
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jvrdlc 4 months ago
penn doesn't look in shape
ReLOVEutionNOW 4 months ago
Thx bro
SenorBeast18 4 months ago
war BJ! It will be a sad day if BJ loses to this nut job. He was handed a title shot by beating up lesser guys in a lesser organization. None of the guys he beat were in top 10. BJ is top ten in two weight classes. BJ better show up though, and stop this dude from ever being a title contender again. Diaz hype train stops here! Do it, BJ!
777wanabe 4 months ago
@777wanabe don't be scared homie
apwid 4 months ago
@777wanabe srs wtf u talkin about bro. if u want to talk about gifted title shots then bj was gifted his shot against hughes when he never even competed in the division!
apwid 4 months ago
Dont be scared Homie!!!
Billyjoehenry 4 months ago
@Billyjoehenry I don't think he is....
777wanabe 4 months ago
@777wanabe We'll see.
Billyjoehenry 4 months ago
bj aint fuckin around anymore, no more friends bullshit. diaz's over hyping stops tomorrow
ironklit 4 months ago
@ironklit Diaz never got hyped you freaking idiot , diaz comes to destroy .
TheBruceeta 4 months ago
penn..
vp1132 4 months ago
maconha!
souzapahpas 4 months ago
DIAZ!!!
maurofcpedrosa 4 months ago
hahahaha these were supposed to be ''buddy's''
PersianPranks 4 months ago
WAR PRODIGGGGGGGGY
SparrowBoi10 4 months ago
well dammm
LIGHTNINGLEVIS 4 months ago
thanks man
Keeperz1 4 months ago
damn that was fast!!!
777wanabe 4 months ago
thx for quick upload bro
dondon78910 4 months ago