@HondoXP You make a job a moral issue. It is not. You make an assumption that the young man does not have one. Either way, where is it written? Furthermore, capitalism can not function at full employment, there has to be a reserve army of the unemployed to keep too much money chasing too many goods and services. This does get way out of balance as it does now. This life is absurd, random, bullshit......now that is profound.
but isn't even the viewing of nature, a natural occurrence? As one of philosophy's purposes is to gain harmony and joy of thought, we do find there is an order, if we believe it, an order that we create, and that each order slightly differs between us yet affects everybody, thus the importance understanding others, and the ramifications of their ideas.
@gabryedly : if you read Schopenhauer you only stay in the abyss. Dead end. Nietzsche at least challenges you to dance in the abyss, what he calls "tragic joy". Schopenhauer's writing only just influenced Nietzsche, it was basically a reply to his idol "Schopenhauer" and later to Wagner, another of his icons who he actually Nietzsche called "sick". Thanks to the western thought dominance, Nietzsche is so popular. the end
I am fairly sure that the passage that you read gets contradicted in his later philosophy (as with most other philosophers in becoming) by the concept of the will to power. WP would be found in both man and nature, and would act as the 'telos' of the world. In Nietzsche's view, everything strived to overcome itself, grow in strength, and gain power (not as object of power, but a 'wanting-will' in power)...read Deleuze and start posting some videos if you can~
We cannot verify our existence. However the fact that we can't doesn't mean that our lives are meaningless. If we have a sense of being doesn't that make us just as "real" as anything else that we can perceive with our senses. We are more than sustained chemical reactions, and at the center of our existence lies more than we could ever imagine. The only thing that we need in order to see this, is an open mind.
if you pay close attention to what you are saying, over time you will realize that, you can't pin point any sort of a route that Nietzche is identifying as the correct one. you are just caught up in an infinite loop that is full of confusion. the work of these philosophers was great, but they mess it up by taking some sort of a godly figure of themselves and hence try to derive a formula that should lead everyone to the correct path.
It is very rewarding to see that young people are sumerging in important mind and conciusness matters and bring it up for new and better generations congratulatios and keep up the this great work.
"The ideal of Morality has no more dangerous rival than the ideal of highest Strength, of most powerful life; which also has been named (very falsely as it was there meant) the ideal of poetic greatness. It is the maximum of the savage; and has, in these times, gained, precisely among the greatest weaklings, very many proselytes. By this ideal, man becomes a Beast-Spirit, a Mixture; whose brutal wit has, for weaklings, a brutal power of attraction." ~ Novalis
even if what you say is ture, its pointless because he wants to find more meaning in life then weasting it on some religion that will help you get nowhere in life!
yeah I dont know about Nietzsche. He's by no means a moron, but everything he says seems laced with such cynicism and hopelessness. He did after all have a complete psychological breakdown in the last part of his life.
I do think the concept of Eternal Return is possible, and I think there is some truth to his thoughts on suffering being just as important as pleasure.
Nietzsche promoted himself as the great affirmer, who says "YES" to even the worst life has to offer. But, yes, he was a cynic in many ways. He was a towering genius, but, to paraphrase Francis Bacon, "[A method is a path. Genius is fleetness of foot. On the wrong path, a genius only hastens further and further beyond his fellows in the wrong direction." BUT, as Nietzsche rightly observed, "The errors of great men are venerable because they are more fruitful than the truths of little men."
1. I don't know if you were implying that Nietzsche is a nihilist with you " Cynicism and hopelessness comment" Well if you were, then you are completely mistake. That is what the book Thus Spoke Zarathustra is, it is about overcoming man and nihilism.
2. Complete psychological breakdown ? It was from his case of syphilis.
"Is existence organic, mechanistic, or none of the above?" I think it is only what we perceive it to be and possibly what we WANT it to be once we take control of our perception. "Does nature have a purpose?" Nature itself? I'm not sure. I'm not sure what I wouldn't consider a part of nature. I would go with it having a subjective/relative purpose. Not a telos : ) I think it was Aristotle who said that. It seems like a presupposition.
Funny that you said Nietzsche is a poet. Well, he DID write poetry in the first place, so I would say he is a poet in that sense, but even without his poems when I read his books it's just like I'm reading poetry. I've thought the same thing.
The quote that "death is the opposite of life, for human beings are only a species of the dead and a very rare species," is an example of the kind of quote which gained him the reputation as a nihilist. Seems to me he is saying that we shouldn't make the cosmos "manlike" or "humanlike"...We need to approach the cosmos on its terms, not ours. But I'm more in your camp than Nietzsche's. I too think the cosmos is conscious in some way human beings have trouble conceptualizing.
yes i think if you lay yourself open to worship the universe as god you accept all that chaos explosions icecold infinity i dont see much benefit there
these are good reasons why i only believe in god when apes humans became concious, though thought technicaly is god, as nature is not aware of its self in the same way, can all be considered as unconcious thought
shit!! you are my double...you look pretty much like me.... crazy. Good nietzsche talk anyway
ProgDogMan 1 year ago
bla bla bla bla bla/ Get a job
HondoXP 1 year ago
@HondoXP Thou are an asshole.
k1ssinger 1 year ago
@HondoXP You make a job a moral issue. It is not. You make an assumption that the young man does not have one. Either way, where is it written? Furthermore, capitalism can not function at full employment, there has to be a reserve army of the unemployed to keep too much money chasing too many goods and services. This does get way out of balance as it does now. This life is absurd, random, bullshit......now that is profound.
marinello6 1 year ago
but isn't even the viewing of nature, a natural occurrence? As one of philosophy's purposes is to gain harmony and joy of thought, we do find there is an order, if we believe it, an order that we create, and that each order slightly differs between us yet affects everybody, thus the importance understanding others, and the ramifications of their ideas.
147yearsplustruelove 2 years ago
how much free will do you believe we have?
147yearsplustruelove 2 years ago
amazing how guys like this dont understand shit about nietzche
SuperAlexrios 2 years ago
Nietzsche's works make an interesting read
whitestman 2 years ago
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Nietzsche is overrated,
Wheez017 2 years ago
Thanks to Hegel Nietzsche is popular :)
736814 2 years ago
or the other way around. Read Nietzsche's master-slave analogy.
MacoutesGabber 2 years ago
Thanks to Schopenhauer Nietzsche is so popular...
gabryedly 2 years ago
@gabryedly : if you read Schopenhauer you only stay in the abyss. Dead end. Nietzsche at least challenges you to dance in the abyss, what he calls "tragic joy". Schopenhauer's writing only just influenced Nietzsche, it was basically a reply to his idol "Schopenhauer" and later to Wagner, another of his icons who he actually Nietzsche called "sick". Thanks to the western thought dominance, Nietzsche is so popular. the end
gate7thug 1 year ago
@gabryedly Or, thanks to Nietzsche, Schopenhauer is still read (?)
Lovetricity 1 year ago
@Lovetricity Never ending cycle...
gabryedly 1 year ago
sorry rating 1 star... I just accidentaly clicked on top of that star while changin windows. :(
ridgex 2 years ago
i enjoy your videos...
I am fairly sure that the passage that you read gets contradicted in his later philosophy (as with most other philosophers in becoming) by the concept of the will to power. WP would be found in both man and nature, and would act as the 'telos' of the world. In Nietzsche's view, everything strived to overcome itself, grow in strength, and gain power (not as object of power, but a 'wanting-will' in power)...read Deleuze and start posting some videos if you can~
becomed 2 years ago
We cannot verify our existence. However the fact that we can't doesn't mean that our lives are meaningless. If we have a sense of being doesn't that make us just as "real" as anything else that we can perceive with our senses. We are more than sustained chemical reactions, and at the center of our existence lies more than we could ever imagine. The only thing that we need in order to see this, is an open mind.
boonskety 2 years ago
if you pay close attention to what you are saying, over time you will realize that, you can't pin point any sort of a route that Nietzche is identifying as the correct one. you are just caught up in an infinite loop that is full of confusion. the work of these philosophers was great, but they mess it up by taking some sort of a godly figure of themselves and hence try to derive a formula that should lead everyone to the correct path.
mbulu123 2 years ago
It is very rewarding to see that young people are sumerging in important mind and conciusness matters and bring it up for new and better generations congratulatios and keep up the this great work.
laberintodelasoledad 2 years ago
Nietzsche was good for helping us realize the stupidity but also the value inherent in all our considerations.
Mattprole 2 years ago
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May i be your slave?
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anobangpakimo 2 years ago
I re-thought something: If the universe were a machine, then it could very well be simply producing TIME. ...and it does it very effectively.
WorldCollections 2 years ago
do you have idea of nietzsche??
I think that noo!
shut up
lluy5 2 years ago
"The ideal of Morality has no more dangerous rival than the ideal of highest Strength, of most powerful life; which also has been named (very falsely as it was there meant) the ideal of poetic greatness. It is the maximum of the savage; and has, in these times, gained, precisely among the greatest weaklings, very many proselytes. By this ideal, man becomes a Beast-Spirit, a Mixture; whose brutal wit has, for weaklings, a brutal power of attraction." ~ Novalis
Valerian1 2 years ago
This kid is, what, 19?
marshamk 3 years ago
Young people are, of course, wrong in anything they say or believe because of their age.
dearyou1994 2 years ago
even if what you say is ture, its pointless because he wants to find more meaning in life then weasting it on some religion that will help you get nowhere in life!
sonofjaybirdswind 2 years ago
Yeah, I guess what I was saying was that instead of arguing against the existence of god, it's more productive to argue against the belief in god.
dearyou1994 2 years ago
yeah I dont know about Nietzsche. He's by no means a moron, but everything he says seems laced with such cynicism and hopelessness. He did after all have a complete psychological breakdown in the last part of his life.
I do think the concept of Eternal Return is possible, and I think there is some truth to his thoughts on suffering being just as important as pleasure.
ChaosAndAnarchy 3 years ago
Nietzsche promoted himself as the great affirmer, who says "YES" to even the worst life has to offer. But, yes, he was a cynic in many ways. He was a towering genius, but, to paraphrase Francis Bacon, "[A method is a path. Genius is fleetness of foot. On the wrong path, a genius only hastens further and further beyond his fellows in the wrong direction." BUT, as Nietzsche rightly observed, "The errors of great men are venerable because they are more fruitful than the truths of little men."
Valerian1 2 years ago
I'm going to clear a couple of things up.
1. I don't know if you were implying that Nietzsche is a nihilist with you " Cynicism and hopelessness comment" Well if you were, then you are completely mistake. That is what the book Thus Spoke Zarathustra is, it is about overcoming man and nihilism.
2. Complete psychological breakdown ? It was from his case of syphilis.
dudeisnotawesome 2 years ago
Life is meaningless, but people create beliefs and dimensions too deny this.
BrynWebb18 4 years ago
only weak humans are religious
666Black6Metal666 4 years ago
OOooo you listen to black metal. real tough guy haha
ChaosAndAnarchy 3 years ago
No one with half a brain would completely dismiss the existence of a god.
dearyou1994 2 years ago
I agree. Anyone who believes in god has half a brain.
onehappiness 2 years ago
"Is existence organic, mechanistic, or none of the above?" I think it is only what we perceive it to be and possibly what we WANT it to be once we take control of our perception. "Does nature have a purpose?" Nature itself? I'm not sure. I'm not sure what I wouldn't consider a part of nature. I would go with it having a subjective/relative purpose. Not a telos : ) I think it was Aristotle who said that. It seems like a presupposition.
savagemike90 4 years ago
"Is life meaningless?" Objectively, I would say yes, but other than that it is what you make it.
savagemike90 4 years ago
Funny that you said Nietzsche is a poet. Well, he DID write poetry in the first place, so I would say he is a poet in that sense, but even without his poems when I read his books it's just like I'm reading poetry. I've thought the same thing.
savagemike90 4 years ago
The quote that "death is the opposite of life, for human beings are only a species of the dead and a very rare species," is an example of the kind of quote which gained him the reputation as a nihilist. Seems to me he is saying that we shouldn't make the cosmos "manlike" or "humanlike"...We need to approach the cosmos on its terms, not ours. But I'm more in your camp than Nietzsche's. I too think the cosmos is conscious in some way human beings have trouble conceptualizing.
cosmicpilgrim 4 years ago
yes i think if you lay yourself open to worship the universe as god you accept all that chaos explosions icecold infinity i dont see much benefit there
cardellacole1 4 years ago
its not an ideal subject to base the truth of your self on im not saying im an idealist though
cardellacole1 4 years ago
crystals recompose in countless ways
cardellacole1 4 years ago
hi chrysalidechrysalide
cardellacole1 4 years ago
the self in the light of unity
cardellacole1 4 years ago
the purpose for me is the truth of our selves
cardellacole1 4 years ago
I learned allot from poet! Maybe because of the feeling they created deep down inside of my temple.
chrysalidechrysalide 4 years ago
these are good reasons why i only believe in god when apes humans became concious, though thought technicaly is god, as nature is not aware of its self in the same way, can all be considered as unconcious thought
cardellacole1 4 years ago