You are right to say that the leading arm should be parallel, or coplanar, to the shoulder angle and not above it. You will never see a player with their left arm below the shoulder angle because that is physically impossible. If a player continues to push back once the right arm has levered itself back to a coplanar position with the shoulder angle the momentum will be displaced into a notable increase of the shoulder turn. It is impossible to achieve this by swinging up on a imaginary plane.
I can only guess, but IMO the pic was taken a split second later than needed, i.e. already when he started the downswing; also, his rear elbow has already been moved forward which would sort of support this claim.
@Golfzoner That is the beginning of his downswing. It is difficult to see where the backswing ended and downswing begun with Hogan. He had an almost magical flow. But that is the start of his downswing and the club is laying off.
Wow, am I confused now...the post under "sk8freelynow" below (beginning "Good stuff") is verbatim (possibly with one or two words different, I'm not sure) what I posted either on one of your vids or on some other plane-related golf vid here on YT. That is weird. Really weird. I'll have to go see if I can dig up the original from way back.
At any rate, the ideas in your text are sound, as usual, and I still mean what I said.
Good stuff. When I was teaching, I used to try to convince students of this--the inescapable logic of the arm plane (at least during the phase where momentum is generated and the beginning of the power-chain transfer occurs) being perpendicular to the center of rotation. You can show this easily with a weight on a string, tied to a pencil or some other small cylinder. This is how both distance and direction are maximized, not one at the expense of the other.
@sk8freelynow Thank you for kind words and for wise comments. Exactly, pependicularity of the motion of the distal parts in relation to thecore is crucial in mechanics. All is simplier and more effective in such a scenario.
P.S. Preisner is a genius. Matches Hogan perfectly - another genius.
0:51 is the best thing on youtube!!!
elnocho3 3 months ago
You are right to say that the leading arm should be parallel, or coplanar, to the shoulder angle and not above it. You will never see a player with their left arm below the shoulder angle because that is physically impossible. If a player continues to push back once the right arm has levered itself back to a coplanar position with the shoulder angle the momentum will be displaced into a notable increase of the shoulder turn. It is impossible to achieve this by swinging up on a imaginary plane.
DASH1ful 9 months ago 3
@DASH1ful Thanks for a wise comment.
h1e2x3 9 months ago
I can only guess, but IMO the pic was taken a split second later than needed, i.e. already when he started the downswing; also, his rear elbow has already been moved forward which would sort of support this claim.
h1e2x3 1 year ago
Can you please enlighten me on why in the first still towards the end,Hogan's club is pointing so far target left.
Thanks
Golfzoner 1 year ago
@Golfzoner That is the beginning of his downswing. It is difficult to see where the backswing ended and downswing begun with Hogan. He had an almost magical flow. But that is the start of his downswing and the club is laying off.
premolar7 1 day ago
Wow, am I confused now...the post under "sk8freelynow" below (beginning "Good stuff") is verbatim (possibly with one or two words different, I'm not sure) what I posted either on one of your vids or on some other plane-related golf vid here on YT. That is weird. Really weird. I'll have to go see if I can dig up the original from way back.
At any rate, the ideas in your text are sound, as usual, and I still mean what I said.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity Thanks. As for the "Good Stuff" comment goes it is difficult for me to say something about it.
h1e2x3 1 year ago
Hey, D: who's that at 1:27?
Great video, and, yes, your choices of music for your videos are great lol
trapsmv9 1 year ago
@trapsmv9 Thanks, mate. The guy at 1:27 is Julius Boros.
h1e2x3 1 year ago
Good stuff. When I was teaching, I used to try to convince students of this--the inescapable logic of the arm plane (at least during the phase where momentum is generated and the beginning of the power-chain transfer occurs) being perpendicular to the center of rotation. You can show this easily with a weight on a string, tied to a pencil or some other small cylinder. This is how both distance and direction are maximized, not one at the expense of the other.
Absolutely love the music, btw.
sk8freelynow 1 year ago 6
@sk8freelynow Thank you for kind words and for wise comments. Exactly, pependicularity of the motion of the distal parts in relation to thecore is crucial in mechanics. All is simplier and more effective in such a scenario.
P.S. Preisner is a genius. Matches Hogan perfectly - another genius.
h1e2x3 1 year ago 8