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  • There is one error here. Islam as far as I know does not forbid the children of slaves from being slaves, they in fact are slaves from birth. The castration thing was more to due with making eunichs I believe.

  • @ProgressiveAudio The exception being if the father was the slave master.

  • I miss this guy T_T

  • @patrick888881 What ever happened to him?

  • i really dont know what to think because i understand what your saying it makes sense to me but at the same time you should respect other peoples beliefs but your not forceing them to listen to your opinion.

  • @granadosmikayla "you should respect other peoples beliefs"

    why? I'd never make that demand of anyone.

    if I believed jesus was gay, should christians respect that belief just because I believe it?

  • @SuperAtheist ok you have a really good point.

  • Let me clarify my previous comment: it was a BAD time for Black people in the 1930s through the 1950s (when the Nation of Islam came into popularity) in this country. Read Malcolm X's autobiography. The Nation of Islam saved him and many black men of his generation from a life of crime and drugs. Consider the conditions in which they (some of whom are still alive) were living at the time, etc.

  • It's funny how Islamic xenophobia trumps good ol' White on Black racism these days.

    Granted, some of what he says about Black Christians and Muslims are true. But maybe, just maybe if this guy lived as a black man in impoverished, de facto-segregrated unemployment-filled Detroit in the 1930s (or even TODAY) he'd believe in some crazy things too. Nice of him to choose an African (NOT an American slave descendent) to hide behind, lol. Good job, but seriously do more research next time.

  • pefff, little boys found a subject, very interested to play

    trying to make himself known, and it is a way to exist in this life, because at the base, they are nothing but finaly, it's ridiculous, without interest, as the clown in the circus, they are quickly forgotten

  • is this supposed to be humour?

  • @JerryMichaelGriffin

    yes the kids have the right to play a little :) do like me, like it does not exist

  • And ... Muhammad and the arabs of the time had black slaves. Muhammad (in the Haddith) refers to us blacks as raisin heads. So it's rather silly for the Nation of Islam to imply even that the demonic religion of islam is the religion of the black man, Muhammad was a devil who liked to give a stiff one to 9 year old babies.

  • @ServiceProcess

    The Prophet Muhammad SAW freed Bilal, a black slave, and many others.

    He appointed Bilal be the first person who got the honor to recite the adzan; the first muezzin.

    The "raisin" quote isn't a racist remark. Some people have tightly small curls in their hair that look like raisins NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE. It's not equivalent to the word "nigger" that Christians had placed upon black people.

  • Black people becoming slaves is actually a curse from the God of the Bible.

    In Genesis 9:25-27. "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers. He also said, 'Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem.

    Christians believed that Canaan had settled in Africa and that his descendents had become black.

  • @vepopyeye I'm going to back off with my style on youtube. I think I am too agressive in my tone, and it's not good for Christian-Muslim relations. I'm not going to get any muslim to acknowledge any truth with my attitude and approach.

    So firstly I apologise to you for being too aggressive with my use of the good english language.

    NOW TO BUSINESS.

  • @vepopyeye I'd like you to understand something. You said the God of the bible cursed the descendants of Canaan. But that's not what the bible says.

    The bible is very clear indeed that it was NOAH that cursed canaan the son of Ham, not God. It was Noahs curse, and Noahs rite to curse his children if he chose.

    In addition, you have to understand that the flood was instigated because of the bad in the world. Noah knew what servants were, so you can know he was not the first.

  • @ServiceProcess

    What did I say ServiceProcess?

    You need to grasp what the point is.

    First, someone cursed Canaan in the form of becoming slaves.

    Who was he? Noah, the prophet!

    Without God wills it to happen, can the curse of Noah materialize?

    Of course no.

    Christians traditionally believed that Canaan had settled in Africa. The dark skin of Africans became associated with this "curse of Ham." Thus slavery of Africans became religiously justifiable according to Bible.

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  • Slavery was considered acceptable as it was in the Bible.

    It was condoned and regulated in many passages of the Bible.

    Jesus made no comment on it. Bible urges slaves to be content with their lot and to obey their owners.

  • In 595CE Pope Gregory appointed a priest to purchase pagan boys to work as slaves on church estates and in 1548CE Pope Paul III confirmed that any individual may freely buy, sell and own slaves. Runaway slaves were to be returned to their owners for punishment.

    The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Bible.

  • @vepopyeye so .. just to clarify what I've said.

    IF indeed the sons of canaan are black, God didn't make them slaves, Noah did.

    A wrong was done to Noah, and he cursed the descendents of the wrong doer.

    With all due respect. This is typical islam. You can't even get right the very words that are infront of your face. You tell me how I am wrong (and I will accept it if I am), but you miss the obvious to see what you want to see.

    I would ask you to retract your previous statement please.

  • @vepopyeye Don't talk silly. You are being stupid now.

    Ideally he wouldn't have said anything. And it does apply to black people you silly sausage. You are clearly lacking, and come up with some crap to try and excuse Muhammad for the evil things that he did.

    You silly child. Christians didn't come up with the word 'nigger'. White people did, they weren't all Christians.

    That's how foolish you are. You talk crap for the sake of Islam.

    The same as Muhammad talked.

  • @ServiceProcess

    "[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation..." Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America

    Although slavery was widespread in Palestine during Jesus' ministry,Bible does not record his opinion of it. Slavery was casually mentioned without criticism in the various books of the Bible. It was accepted as a natural part of life by almost all Christians.

  • @vepopyeye More crap. If your God (Allah) established slavery, then that is proof that he is Satan and not the God Almighty. You HAVE TO think what you are saying.

    It's not sanctioned in the bible. The bible didn't say it was good. The bible didn't change those cultural norms (for reasons I don't understand) yes it was accepted as a natural part of life. But .. and here is the difference. Your man actively made free people slaves. ACTIVELY. and that's the difference.

    He was self serving.

  • @ServiceProcess

    "You man actively made free people slaves .."

    You are being silly here. The message from the Quran brought by the Prophet is always to free slaves and to treat them with kindness.

    You trying to demonized him is nothing new. Got to learn to be truthful to yrself.

    Picking hadiths at random that suits your agenda is evil and evil is satan.

  • @ServiceProcess

    White Christians plundered the world for wealth. They came with Bible on one hand. They taught the natives Christianity. Once Bible transferred to the other hand, the white Christians owned their land. They established the lucrative slaves trading.

    The Spanish and Portuguese brought ships full of Africans over to work as slaves.

    The white Christians dehumanizing the Africans and Africa points out the hypocrisy of white Christian. Dehumanizing is evil.

  • @vepopyeye If Allah instituted slavery, established it ... then he's the devil himself.

    I know that the one God is for love. We [humans] don't really go with that, but God does. So for the one God to establish slavery is utter rubbish.

    You are just talking now. Things that you don't understand.

    You'll say anything to defend Islam, but you're making a mess of it.

  • @ServiceProcess

    Loads of Craps from you! LOL

    You said "God establish slavery is utter rubbish."

    Bible disagrees "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be ..."

    The biblical God has established slavery. He created it!

    Hence, using your own words God "is Satan and not the God Almighty."

    When one reads the Bible diligently and without bias, one can see that God and Satan are the same. U need the verses for this, ServiceProcess?

    I will be glad to be of great help to you.

  • @vepopyeyee Again .... on this you are wrong, it's Noah who cursed Canaan.

    Wrong, the bible God (The one God YHWH) didn't establish slavery as you wrongly acerted, Noah did.

    [QUOTE] 'When one reads the bible diligently and without bias'

    I think you need to give more time to just learning to read first !!!, and then

    go for the diligent stuff later. The bible says that NOAH CURSED CANAAN.

    and yes vepopyeyee ... hand over the verses from verse 24 !!!!

    post them here big man !!!

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  • Muhammad called black people "raisin heads" and dumb dogs, an actual miracle that any body of black/african decent followers the nonsense.

    Islam is bullshit anyway folks, just let it go. It's Muhammad's own mental problems and rubbish mixed with plagiarized stories and traditions from other people. Couldn't figure out free will or predestination and couldn't figure out what was Scripture and what was Talmud (rabbi discussion) - Quran is ridiculous and false.

  • According to the bible Moses did marry an Ethiopian woman which is unknown to a lot of people.

  • the arabs did enslave blacks, but also eastern europeans so they did not only discriminate against blacks unlike whites. and the arabs did not rape, rob & lynch blacks of their language, culture, history & knowledge like the whites did. two completely different races. two completely different religions. 1 truth & its allah swt

  • im from ethiopia and im a muslim. this guy is a ignorant dumbfuck. first off islam was not founded my arabs, it started out with adam and there were many prophets before muhammed who was an arab but moses and most others were israeli so you were wrong about that. and as far as islam not conquering sub saharan africa look at west africa. 50% nigeria muslim, 95% of senegal, 95% of mali, 95% niger, 40% of ethiopia, 100% of somalia, n other in guinea, burkina faso. So what are you talkin bout?

  • @TheRealIsshh most of those people from those countries you named are muslim by name but they’re still believe in their ancestry religion. And Senegal, Mali, Burkina Faso, Guinea, those countries don’t have charier law but Republican and Laicque Law! But you forgot to mention it!

  • As a negro-african I’m not going back to my ancestor’s religion but I’m not a muslim anymore. I’m just an atheist (a newbie) after I discover who’s Muhammad (Shit Be Upon Him), who’s Allah…those kind of bullshit!

    I was in an obscurantism which make me a slave, now I’m enjoying my freedom.

  • @elmoder87 you dont know what real slavery is, so dont use such label on yourself

  • @andron333 if you do know the real sense of the word: Please share!

  • i agree with most of your input on this vid, i am posting a responce vid i made to a black moslem, bare with me.

  • Black people are fools who are muslims

    Go to darfur where arabs are impaling black afros alive..

  • You are such a repulsive disgusting prick. Watching you makes me sick to my stomach. Bigot.

  • @Salongsberusad thanks for sharing.

  • @SuperAtheist I agree with Salong, but only because of your facial hair. I agree with your point 100% though. Great vid.

  • @Salongsberusad

    capnoawesome is the man. why dont you fuck off ?

  • i think we should abolish racism, religion, Prejudice, stereotypes, and just LIVE life as we should. In peace. and i think women should give pussy more often, so we are busy doing something fun. communities should have something where people are busy on other things like building a house rather than pointing out the color differences or what race is better. Just fuck religion. no one is better than anyone else. No religion = No war

  • good points

  • well done..ur very clever...good job..

  • What's the username of the person @5:35 of the video?

  • this kid is either born dumb and confused or maybe just on drugs

  • im a black ex-muslim atheist

    viva Atheism!!!

  • Thisguy is a fuckin moron.

  • both christians and muslims enslaved black people and commited horrible atrocities against them. i hope that my faith zoroastrinism will be more open to recieve converts so that black people will find some peace in the gathas.

  • HOLY SHITE, a Zoroastrian!

    i didn't even know we still HAD those! xD

  • Shame on any Catholic/Christian Latino. Don't worship the Gods of your conquers.

  • most Latinos *are* the conquerors. The native south Americans were virtually wiped out by war and disease.

  • The bottom line for me is: Both Christianity and Islam was founded by Arabs. And Arabs consider themselves being white, being deeply offended if someone calls them "black brother" or "sister".

  • very good video about the arab slave trade often referred to as the forgotten holocaust. No one seems to be aware of this atrocity. You missed out some key facts though, the death toll so far in the arab slave trade over its 14 centuries is 140 million so it is the biggest holocaust ever. While the transatlantic slave trade had a 10% mortality rate for shipment of slaves, the islamic mortality rate for shipment of slaves was a staggering 80-90%... disgysting. Check out /watch?v=0Yo5XcWY9mo.

  • Not that I disagree with your main point but I'm wondering where you're getting your statistics from.

    While it's true that once Africans arrived in the New World, their mortality rate was around 10%, the death rate associated with capture, detainment and transportation was far higher. When combined with the 10% you mention, the overall mortality rate caused by the trans-Atlantic slave trade was at minimum 50%.

  • so you say jesus was white....... what an idiot u r capn0cumsome...... he was born in palestine and he used to speak aramic and he was a jew... so y the hell have made him a white guy... from where? get it right you racist....... its not about the color... i dont hate ur color but i dont like ur tongue, speak good or keep it shut.....

  • "i dont like ur tongue, speak good or keep it shut....."

    this is my channel!

    if you don't want to hear me, then don't come to my channel.

    "so you say jesus was white"

    I say jesus never existed!

    I didn't make jesus white.

    white christians did.

  • The hell with ur channel.....

  • there is no hell dummy!

  • Your ancestors are definately moneys, if you believe in evolution. its better if you go and join them they still exist what dummy you are... dont you see the stars, the moon, the sun and everything is so syncronized and perfect it is not evolution you are a human being ......

  • The stars, moon, the sun etc, isnt syncronized you spazstick, stop saying bullshit.

    Evolution is fucking evident, only Brushed aside by weak minded faggots, who cant accept anything but the propaganda bullshit religions they were tricked into joining

  • noblestmughal

    human beings are a species of ape and all apes are a species of monkey.

    this is a fact regardless how you feel about it!

  • what fact....... r u stupid? it has not been proven and it cant be........ how could some group from the same species are so intelligent and some like u r still monkey`s relatives......

  • ever hear of DNA, dumbass?

    may allah's cock be in your mouth, and the taste of moohamid's shit forever be on your tongue!

  • Probably you dont know what DNA is... Dont you believe that it can store information about  a person which will take million of books to write it...... do you think it all evolved by chance..... u dumb......?

  • do you ever question what you think you know?

  • "do you ever question what you think you know?"

    Do you? I don't think anyone partisan does.

  • LoansOfYogurt

    all the time!

    this is how I got to my current position.

  • Splendid.

    Do you ever question your current position?

  • @LoansOfYogurt

    questioning one's world view is a never ending process!

    I welcome any paradigm shifting opportunity.

    my only requirement is evidential support.

    the unexamined life is not worth living.

  • Well said. Atheists like you should be making videos. I think you guys are being horribly represented by obnoxious idiots like AmazingAtheist Capnoawesome, etc.They sound just as annoying as the evangelists

  • umm i think TAA and Capn are great examples they show tere opinion and dont suger coat it or care about the feelings of stupid people

  • @lildread1

    The feelings of stupid people? Have you seen either of their videos about Buddhism? Their arguments are both grounded on the ideal of hating every religion regardless of what it says and then throwing in made up child rape scenarios. I'm not arguing with you either. I know people find entertaining arguments more appealing than logical ones, which is why Bill O Reilly is the number 1 cable news show. Its harder to actually think then it is to listen to someone yell.

  • @LoansOfYogurt

    no TAA brings up some pretty logical arguments since its pretty hard to argue for Atheist and not be logical, well it would be ironic to not be logical and argue for it, Now capn tends to slander alot, but its ok some of these religions have brought to much suffering to let them go off easy.

  • @lildread1

    It's logical to say, "because you are a Buddhist monk, little boys are just holes to you."

    It's okay to slander? It's the other persons fault? How exactly are any of these points logical. It's just random hate.

  • @LoansOfYogurt

    like i said capn tends to slander alot, so him saying that is expected also its not per say logical to slander, but with all of the bullet fodder Atheist get, we should atleast be able to have comedic fun with other religions.

    TAA usually doesnt slander and puts out thought out arguements.

  • @lildread1

    You guys make it sound like Atheists are a repressed minority group. Most of Europe and Asia is Atheist now, and you guys aren't advocating beliefs, you are simply not believing. TAA and CAPN are advocating belief that ALL religions should be hated. And no, TAA does not put much thought into his arguments. This is a guy who claims the reason he is atheist is because someone told him he didn't believe in god over a board game.

  • @lildread1

    I say again also, listen to TAA's reasons for hating Buddhism. They are all false and un-researched. CAPN was claiming that the main sect of Buddhism "Lamanism" (which does not exist, nor is there a main sect of Buddhism) kidnaps children and puts them in an orphanage to select the Dalai Lama. Though the actual selection proccess may be something people might not agree with, to just make up anything you want because you are "opressed" is bullshit.

  • noblestmughal,

    I find your post pretty amusing considering that in real life, the higher a person's IQ is and the better educated he/she is, the more likely someone is to accept the overwhelming evidence for evolution.

    It seems that a creationist is a lot more likely to be the "dummy" in the room.

  • now we know who the real racist is.

    if islam is a religion of peace, then you can't be a muslim.

    violence is your religion!

  • I thought all muslims were gay?

    why else would you want allah's jizz on your anus?

    if muslims are not gay, why do they suck moohamid's shitty cock?

    that's allah's shit on his cock you know?

    are you too good to eat allah's shit and suck moohamid's cock?

  • Ohhhhh thats so offensive. Omg im gonna cry cause the stuff you say really matters. Looks like someone had a bad childhood huhh? Maybe you get molested in a church confessional.

  • ftaimuraq

    speaking of molestation, how is your mom doing?

  • @SuperAtheist LOL perfect come back

  • @ftaimuraq

    Haha, church confessional... Well, you know those priests and their appetite for young boys.

  • LearnToReadTheQuran

    may the jizz of allah be forever on your anus

    and the taste of moohamid's shit creamed cock forever in your mouth.

  • The only thing that i love about islam is not charging interest on a loan!!!Thats simply awesome!!!I like jesus but i hate organized christianity which is absolute bullshit!!

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  • islam does not dominate Africa

    It dominates North Africa

    Roman Catholocism does, then the Protestant Movement/Orthodox

  • No black and white in islam man .

    we are all workship one God .

    We are all slaves To one God .

    We are all in the same ship .

    stop saying staf about islam and you know what ru talking about .

    cos its not true .

  • Probadly best thing for those slaves. Oh and for those people who lost their families under attack of islamic FANATICS. Don't take me wrong not all muslims are fanatics, right? But think twice before saying it was best thing ever happened to everyone. Personally I don't mind Islam as long they are not trying to bring Sharian laws to western world or forcing me to beleave their god.

  • Yes yazdegred it really is, before I came across the blessed pages of the Quran I could never get rid of my anal rash. Thanks to the blessed unbelievably soft pages of the quran my ass has never felt better.

    So people the moral of the story, the pages and your ass are a match made in heaven no pun intended:)

  • This is no help... to anyone, he makes religious hate him, which in turn causes a stereotype (sp), and by the way the holocaust's death total is much higher considering many countries full of jews suddenly found their jews missing, and germany destoryed many countries, and what he says about first white christians is in fact true, slaveholders preached to their slaves about, "how slaves are supposed to act and how they're superior", this is also an example of a "vicious circle" ...

    ~Boom~

  • All black muslims should see Darfur genocide before they speak about leaving the white manreligion and start giving blowjob to arabs..

  • lol hilarious

  • What a joke this shithead is - MANY MORE PEOPLE DIED AS A RESULT OF SLAVERY IN THE STATES THAN THE HOLOCAUST! Your looking at approx 1 hundred million people!

  • systemisdown101

    where did you get 100,000,000?

    your ass?

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  • What ever the number is its MUCH more than the number of Jews that were killed in the holocaust -

    millions slaves were shipped over from Africa - over the next 200 years those million people had kids who had kids who had kids ect. All living and dying as slaves. I think the report i was thinking of didnt stop when slavery was abolished and continued to follow this to the present day - which would be around 100,000,000 people

  • systemisdown101

    are you a christian?

  • I'm sorry, what's your point?

    You're shouting that more Africans died in the transatlantic slave trade than in the holocaust, right?

    Didn't you just hear CapnOAwesome say exactly that?

    I know I heard it; it's at 0:17 - 0:25. It's the second thing he says in the video.

  • White terrorists thugs ethnic cleansed whole North America.

    Search "slave dynasty" and you will find what was slavery under Muslim rule.

    White used to treat blacks as 2nd class citizens until 1960s, Its only civil right movement which liberated those blacks from white Supermacists, Now MUSLIMS ARE NEW BLACKS FOR SAME WHITE THUGS.

  • Everything this guy says IS true. A shame he is no longer on Utube.

    All thinking people of all races are in a battle for civilisation right now. If we don't win. Another "Dark Age" will result which may well last for another millenium.

  • NO ITS NOT ISLAM IS FOR EVERYONE

  • He isnt gone, he's on a video for that child that was raped and murdered in California this week. He is disrespectfully going on about his atheist views when the vast majority of comments are about sympathy for the girls family.

    And for him in the video who looks like he should be eating more ham.

    It was blacks who sold blacks into slavery.

  • What sucks more than any thing

    that u probably know that these things that he said it's not true but u continue believing it

  • ektelat

    What really sucks more than anything....

    is that you know the things he said are true, but you continue believing islam anyway!

  • Let me put it this way,U know about Islam as a Christian boy know about Atheism

    most from your information about Islam probably came from other Atheists or from a sites against Islam .

    Let me ask u a question , When u want to learn more about the Big Bang Do U go to a Creationist site or u go to some where were they actually believe on the big bang ??

    >>>>>>>>> Read second post

  • <<<<<

    When u want to learn about Islam Please go to a REAL MUSLIM site and ask all your questions they will Inshallah answer you :)

  • most of what I know of islam I learned by reading an english translated qu'ran and by observing the actions of muslims.

  • Lets say some 1 want to learn about Evolution and he doesn't really understand much about the hall thing he just read that his father was a monkey some time before he evolute to what humans now would not he say its BS

    that is almost like u , u red some verses from the Quran while u dont know any thing about the things happened in the time of that verse , and you probably dont know what the meaning of that verse

    >>>>>>>>>Read second post

  • <<<<<

    So please when u read any verse and u thought oh thats Just Wrong , go ask some Real KNOWING Muslims about it if u find their answer still wrong then you will have more reasons to hate Islam but maybe u'll find it making since and u might hopefully be closer or less hater to this Great Religion :)

    ====

    now about The actions of Muslims :)

    let me ask u a question

    Is the democracy that sucks or the way some countries practice it ? (( i dont know the exact word but u get the meaning :) . ))

  • there is no such thing as a great religion!

    all religion is superstitious bullshit with its foundation built on sand.

    democracy sucks! America is a republic!

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

    - Benjamin Franklin

  • Islamic history is the world's primary driving force behind black African slavery. The Islamic black slave trade engendered brutality, sexual concubinage, and elicited an extremely high death toll during the slave transports. The Islamic slave trade comprehensively dwarfs any other slave trade in recorded human history.

  • Islam institutionalized slavery. Slaves were taken by Muhammad since his time in Medina. Slaves were usually taken in war, either through offensive or defensive actions. Islam allows the taking of slaves as "booty", or reward for fighting. This has led to numerous "jihads" by Muslim states and tribes to attack other non-Muslim groups and obtain slaves. Islamic jurisprudence laid down regulations for the proper treatment of slaves. However, abuses have occurred throughout histor

  • slaves durring the ottamine empire werent really a slave it was more of a privelege they would be slaves in name but they would live royal lives with the kings the kings didnt trust Muslims because they feared of being over thrown so they would have slaves and they were taught the muslim way it was a privelge for many famillies in europe to have there sons work for the king

  • the prohet Muhammad pbuh stop the slave trading and to show that arabs arent superior he had a black slave lead the first call of prayer.

  • wtf is this guy talking about

  • Your a genius! much love man i fucking hate religon spoils everything

  • You need to get out of your trailer alot more often.

  • Freedom go to hell.

  • Freedom pisses me off, fuck freedom!

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