Red Hat Linux 9

[DarkMastaC]

I have to say, alot of the comments on this video upset me, Comparing Red Hat 9 to Ubuntu (newer) and Fedora (the exact same thing as RHL) is kinda moot, Red Hat Linux 9 was the last free distribution offered by red hat. The red hat community saw this and worked to create a new free RHL distrobution to allow people to still get the look, feel and capabilities of Red Hat without having to pay. Look at Fedora Core 1 and you will see its the exact same as this distro. Just released 5 months later

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@DarkMastaC Fedora is NOT exact same thing as RHL, nor it is its successor, but a playground for its development. That means that Fedora will always live on the bleeding edge of development without a truly stable and long term supported version. CentOS and ScientificLinux are the RH clones you have in mind.

[jppputube]

I can see my comment was grossly misunderstood. I know what Linux is good for. A lean, high performance, high capacity, flexible, customizable operating system that can run from the smallest embedded device to the top 10 supercomputers. That's where the community should focus. Not on playing catchup with Windows or Mac GUIs. That is what I found silly. I prefer Linux without a GUI or the lightest, functional one I can find.

[jppputube]

Ok, so after 16 years redhat succeeded in making linux look like windows95?? really? i am not an MS fan and actually use many linux distros for work, but this is silly. is there an alternate world out there where making linux execute .EXE processes is nirvana ?

[ZHAUSQ]

@jppputube

LOOOL

redhat is made for clusters ans stuff and not for a perfect gui -.-

[Hoobes1]

@jppputube Linux will never run .exe files because of the different architecture it has compared to windows. Linux focuses a lot more on the performance of the system, which is why it runs most servers. On the other hand, Windows focuses a lot more on the GUI of the operating system, because this is what the general public can best relate to. The down side to this is that Windows has its infamous "blue screen of death" and slow performance.

[CorporateG0th]

@jppputube

8 years. This video is of RedHat 9, released in 2003 and still using Gnome 1.

Are you sure that isn't OSX you're using at work?

[whatuwantme4]

sooo like whats the difference between Linux Mint 10 and This RedHat?

[Machado270]

not free

[cobrafazea]

oooh ...this one is too old :D:D

[TheDevilz0]

go aaway fuck yourself , windows 7 sux , redhat isn't so best,

Ubuntu Rulz

[ComputerJunkies]

WINDOWS 7 IS BEST lol

[RockFr3ak]

I guess you really are a junky. You are seeing things man....

[zc456]

@ComputerJunkies From a feature stand point... yes. From a quality stand point... no.

[hitocolp]

@ComputerJunkies linux ubuntu 10.04 is best lol

[FaithFullMemory]

@maw88ify its more of a OS then any other Linux Distros and what i mean by that its user friendly like you dont need to mess around with it to get some of your hardware and no im not a fan of red hat its bullocks why pay for something thats free? if i had to pay i'd rather go buy MacOSx but putting that aside Fedora is the best Linux Distro no matter what anyone says its always going to be the best Mint sucks its just a remake of Ubuntu Suse is gay cause it is and its a Os for Morons

[maw88ify]

Thank for the info, very helpful...

[FaithFullMemory]

No Problem M8 :)

[itsbrad212]

yea i agree with you. fedora is definitely the best distro. linux mint is for people who cant let go of windows, which isn't that the reason they switched to linux in the first place? and i cant STAND suse. its just such a dumb project. it took 5min to boot suse and about 15 sec for fedora to boot (might be less then that) :D

[xMandalorex]

if only redhat released a Red Hat 10.0 Linux lol Fedora would be in trouble then lol but yes Fedora is the bes tlinux OS so far... unbuntu is 2nd IMO Fedora 12 is just bad ass !!!

[FaithFullMemory]

haha totally fucking agree with that Fedora FTW!! :)

[xMandalorex]

Indeed, i've still got Redhat Linux 9.0 on my old webserver no more updates... lol but its linux RH 9 is strong and old lol

[SyphonFilterCombatOp]

shut up noob.....Ubuntu is the best.

[FaithFullMemory]

Indeed sir you address me as the "noob" but then you also state that ubuntu is the best, so i ask who is the noob now? go figure!

[SyphonFilterCombatOp]

i've tried all the linux distros and ubuntu is by far the best.....and most of the people knows it. So what i am trying to say is stop talking crap without trying all of em.

[FaithFullMemory]

i don't know what you mean but since you are trying to say i don't know what im talking about let me correct what your saying, people tend to use ubuntu because there noobs? simple as that, they prefer ubuntu because if they got handed a REAL linux os they would crap in their pants because they would be so confused, people also use ubuntu because it's as simple as windows notice why i said noob before!, if you want windows that badly then go back to it; lol

[wakunahum]

@FaithFullMemory How is Ubuntu and less Linux than another distribution of Linux?

Is the point of the Linux desktop to make it difficult on the users so that everyone ends up hating their experience?

Is the point of using Linux to make it hard to use?

It's a computer. It's supposed to automate tasks for you and not make you do everything by hand.

[FaithFullMemory]

@wakunahum nono it wasn't meant to sound like that, what i meant was that fedora was more of a work distro and ubuntu was for play, ubuntu is the 3rd most used OS after windows & mac so i can never hate on it :)

[reivenlocke]

Installing and running programs on Linux is like booking a flight to Hawaii, but having to print the tickets yourself, building the airplane, fueling the airplane, and then flying it to Hawaii yourself.....crashing all the way.

How much is frustration and jumping through hoops over the 3 - 5 year lifespan of an OS period actually worth? It very well might be worth the price of a Windows installation.

[wakunahum]

@reivenlocke You can use something like synaptic or other installation tools. You type the name of a software, check a box, hit apply, and watch it install. It's very easy. It's just as easy as downloading an EXE, finding the folder destination, then double clicking. It's all EASY regardless of what operating system you are using.

[dirtmax64]

@wakunahum Sorry, I lost you after the 6 word "synaptic". It would be easy if linux understands that a .exe is a installer. If linux understands how to open a jpeg, then why should it not understand a installer?

[hasegawamiki]

@dirtmax64 so, does windows understand .dpkg?

[dirtmax64]

@hasegawamiki so, does linux understand .exe? I asked first dumbnuts. Why should a multi-trillion dollar corporation support .dpkg of a (free unpopular unuser friendly) OS?

[hasegawamiki]

@dirtmax64 You do know that Mac OS X uses dpkg, right?

[dirtmax64]

@hasegawamiki You do know that Mac OS X sucks right? you do remember me typing unpopular os right?

[pickyantivirus]

@dirtmax64 maybe they like hardly ever getting malware? (less likely then pc and mac)

[Palmer640]

@dirtmax64 It does read installers... .RPM, .DEB, .SH, all installers.

Linux can read .exe files, by the way- but doesn't have native support for it.

If Linux were more like Windows and supported all .exe files, that would NOT be good, because than it would have all of the malware- like "pickyantivirus" said.

[dirtmax64]

@Palmer640 I typed installer (referring to exe, not installers rpm,deb,sh)....so you agree that it doesn't have native support for it, so it doesn't read .exe out of the box. nobody will get malware if they didn't go to shady websites. also linux doesn't have much malware because the people who make malware won't target unpopular OS. PS I use ubuntu all the time, but will NEVER recommend it to a friend or anyone to go thru hell

[fazilsidik]

@dirtmax64 u so right i install ubuntu and hell it is to used

[Palmer640]

@wakunahum It's less because it's incredibly over rated.

The point of Linux is not to make it hard to use, it's supposed to be "open" and let you have more control over your desktop environment... making everything automatic is going to make it more like MAC [MAC is Unix based also, but it's almost completely closed and expensive]- just the opposite of being more open and having more control.

I suggest learning how to actually use Linux, almost any other distro is better than Ubuntu.

[GlitchesofWar]

@wakunahum You can't generalize such a broad topic. Linux allows you to customize things and do things faster than on Windows, it's just hard for the new users with all their point and clicky.

[Theunknownavenger100]

@wakunahum Its just a product that was made with the linux gui and filesystem

[cloudwolfsa]

@wakunahum It's a more advanced operating systems... if you jus simply want internet purposes face book youtube etc. I recomend windows. More programers use this kind of stuff or advanced computer nerds... Hate to say the word but hackers too. I mean its open source not closed source therefore it's changed and can be minipulated to your own use. If you want you could config it to ur own will just make sure you're program friendly. and Ubuntu is ok. It has an annoying side bar and looks like mac

[haxxor46]

@cloudwolfsa i never upgraded due to that ugly sidebar.. im still running 10 :P

[snatale1]

@SyphonFilterCombatOp I'm pretty sure you can't call someone else a noob, and follow it up with Ubuntu is best. Run Debain, not it's red headed stepchild

[maw88ify]

I've used a lot of Linux debian, ubuntu, Fedora, moonos, mint, and they all look almost the same with the same programs so what make Red Hat any better than debian, ubuntu or Fedora.

[zc456]

@maw88ify The only difference is that Red Hat has been around longer then the later distros. The other ones simply try to make things more user friendly. I remember Ubuntu didn't have out of the box Mp3 support until MUCH later, not to mention the deb installer. So its gotten better for those with less knowledge on how to use Linux. Such as myself.

[maw88ify]

@zc456

I've now come to find not all Linux are the same...

Here are two a not like the rest >> mythbuntu , linuX-gamers

I think Linux mint is very nice... all the video codec come installed out of the box...

[grandmastgarth]

Redhat's Servers SUCK linux isn't user friendly at all its just difficult i have used windows and redhat and windows was way easier and better I use it for my home server:)

[shawnanastasio]

red hat is for power users not stupid for a novice like u.

IDIOT

[grandmastgarth]

you see how linux copies windows with its menus like them? and just go nack and read your comment and see whos the stupid one here... and if your not smart enough to figure that one out, its you.

[shawnanastasio]

the only reason kde/redhat did that is to make it a little bit user friendly

[IckleBanana]

The various Linux desktop enviroments are very different from the Windows ones and it was Apple that created the first GUI and it was everyone who copied them. It was all command line before that.

[maw88ify]

Yes and Apple made the first wheel we know. :P

Did you know Mac copied Xerox, they got the cool dock idea for Xerox. It was not Apples idea, and they didn't not come up with idea of touch screen, and wacom tablet already had touch screens for computers before Apple.

Apple is just as much of a copy cat, so get over it.

[3R3MITE]

Go to the redhat forums or you can try talking to someone in IRC @ one of the linux channels.

[metalfool4295]

how? and how?

[metalfool4295]

im still learning about computers, what is formatting, and how do i try it? oh yeah, i planned to wipe the hard drive, so does that change anything.

[hsnan009]

wipe the whole hard disk and start all over again make new partitions of it and then try installing

[tommybezanson]

umm formatting a hard drive means all ur pics, porn, games and other crap gets deleted and u cant use ur computer no more unless u have an os install disk

[metalfool4295]

yo! i am having issues installing red hat 9 on a gateway 400c. it has windows 98, and has 192MB of ram. the CD wont startup when i restart my computer, and when i look on the CD, it says i dont have enough memory. I HAVE PLENTY OF MEMORY!!! HELP ME PLEASE!!!!

[hsnan009]

format ur whole computer than try it

[vbpeepee]

If it says you don't have enough memory, formatting won't fix your problem. RAM and hard drive storage are totally different.

[grandmastgarth]

haha this is not windows its linux so Not enough memory is correct for linux, not so much with XP or a windows Server (Not recommended)

[mendozairis]

Linux is known for having more than one desktop.

[firecad2006]

im an Ubuntu man me self

[TengriAsura]

Is there a huge difference between Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux Enterprise?

Both use RPM package and other than that, I don't know the constructive differences.

[kittehperson]

I use centOS  it's a break off of red hat does any humans know why

"yum install wine" does not work?

and yes ive tried

"yum upgrade"

is there another way? to git it?

[OpenSourceLinux]

wooohooo, believe it or not i still use red hat linux 9 as my web server, ftp, voice over ip server "ventrilo" and game server for a couple of games. it runs perfect. and i still do not find the need to upgrade to a diffrent distro or version! I love it, it runs on a toster! lol

[nantocsem]

this was the fastest linux I ever used, and ran all rpms for me with no probs. Currently I'm using my just installed Fedora 9, but that's not the old red hat quickness and stability. I can't afford the RHEL, but just found my RHL9 installer cds. What do you think, wold I be able to run all things on that linux I can run on Fedora (most important is skype and newest aMSN and mplayer and amarok/xmms). Wouldthe update commands (yum) work in terminal?

[erukjent2]

redhat does not like so much different from pclinuxos

[jjamendoza]

The only Linux Distro that I ever used and still using is Ubuntu. I want to learn about the rest like Fedora Core, Rehat,...etc. Is there a site that can easily show me all?

[My1name1is1Emor]

Why don't you just go for it? Back-up, then just install the OS onto the computer fully if you don't know how to partition- if you don't like, re-install Linux :). And of course, the easier way is Virtual Box(Youtube it).

EMZ=]

[Zousmeister]

Nah from all the Linux distributions red hat is the Best!

It stays true to what Linux means

Not some "cute" windows

[killervalonz]

Ubuntu is something to look at too

[ibloxProductionz]

Ubuntu got there source from Suse... So check out suse :D

[Amebixfan]

No, they got it from Debian

[ChuahSakMin]

red hat linux 9 got virus

[yomero66]

Let me tell you guys I Benn using windows os since 1990 but windows vista suck ass limited connections and like 20 dif bugs on the vista core

so few years i whent to Linux base os like ubuntu and mandriva are my favorites plus i got dual boot half of my HD is windows xp pro

[thetruebattlefront]

im running linux beryl on a dual boot with windows xp its so yes its possible

[devkamal]

does it support everything that is supported in windows?

[Garfler]

are all these programs built in ????

[belogio]

I swiched form vista to ubuntu and I hated it, I swiched back to Vista cuz ubuntu was verry low tech and not verry user friendly. Nothin beats Windows!

[Garfler]

I use Vista just because it has dx10 and all games support -.-' therwise I hate it, it sux soo bad.

[wrestler50000]

Ubuntu 'very low tech' doesn't make any sense. I also class Ubuntu VERY user friendly. I think you jumped back to comfortable windows because you couldn't be bothered to learn a few Linux fundamentals. Also, Linux is improving with the games support, and you also have Window Emulators in a worst case scenario like Wine. If developers would add OpenGL support to their games they would be available for multi-platforms... = more profit.

[curemymind]

Ubuntu isnt low tech actually its more high tech.. tho yeah i agree with u it is less user friendly very low GUI... but idk i do like it better u do have more control over in a linux os then u do with windows.. soo yeah novice users dont use linux and experiance users linux is really awsome control when u learn how to use it... and i love knowing things people give up on:D

[steveZ1337]

WINE stands for....

WINE IS NOT AN EMULATOR

[wrestler50000]

I know what Wine stands for, but I use Emulator as a saying so many understand it. There is still a number of people that haven't heard of Wine, or many things to go with Linux itself, etc.

At the end of the day, software like Wine gives Linux users the chance to use Window software.

Wine is more of a dll compatibility layer rather than an emulator, but that saying wouldn't make much sense to a number of people.

;-)

[bozaidq8]

i finally switched from vista to ubuntu,, and now to openSUSE linux rocks

[MoonOvIce]

SUSE is definitely the best one...Ubuntu is pretty good too...although, couldn't you make a dual boot with Vista and Linux?

[bozaidq8]

hey..

well yes i can... i used to have vista and ubuntu on the same machine... but i was not using vista anymore... so i decided to wipe it off :D

[wvoutlaw2002]

It's possible. I've done it before.

[alltechnw]

Is it XP compatible?!

[librano]

once u have linux, u dont need XP

[Garfler]

lol, it's an operating system, xp will be deleted

[TyR2k]

dual boot?

[Garfler]

how is that done, with linux?

[Westicl3s]

lol it is an OS, and if your an idiot you will delete XP, use what brain cells you have left and dual boot, i run Ubuntu dual booted with longhorn open source mod vista.

[ChristopherLucky]

not if it is placed on a partition. Then you save xp and can dual boot between them :)

[mouimen]

how do i install linux

[MrC0pt3r]

If you don't know how, then you don't need to.

[librano]

@Mr*wateva*... thats not the attitude we need...

@mouimen... try out ubuntu. it is really easy... ubuntu(dot)com

[MrC0pt3r]

I was doing it for his own good, if he doesn't know how to install Linux then he really doesn't need to. I was saving him quite a bit of trouble, and probably money.

[vertigo88x]

finnaly, someone smart on the internet. i'm starting to hate ubuntu for the same reason i hate mac, damn fanboys.

[ianhawdon]

I'm not too big a fan of Ubuntu on desktops, but that's probably because I'm more used to the KDE Desktop Environment. openSUSE FTW!!

[old5chool]

there are many better linux distributions, like suse linux, fedora, etc.

[johnpaulrowland]

how do you use th comand line to formatt a hard drive ?

[glinux]

First Linux distro... out of the 13 or so (not including minor version numbers :P)

[Jzarecta]

This distro is so old, I am really in awe when they tell students to get red hat linux 9 because they think that Red hat is the only true linux... misconseptions misconseptions.

[linux892005]

my second linux ever :P first one was 8.