Consoles are made at a loss, The revinue is made by us buying games. Because PC users may not neccasary use them for games they have to pay list prices.
How do you exsplain that when the Xbox was released, it's graphics card alone cost 1 1/2 times the price of the console to buy on it's own?
Not to mention it's hard drive, board, cd drive, and other component parts. The maths dont add up...
The revinue is made from game sales, It has to be. every £10 per game goes to the console company. PC gamers pay list prices for components, that's why games are £10 cheaper.
I think the best part about owning a console is that you don't have to worry weather or not you can run it.. Unless you have a ps2 and try to play PS3 games, then you have problems..
PS3 can play 3-D now...with the latest firmware. I've seen it at a Panasonic demo using Panasonic glasses. PS 3Games already have the info to create 3-D from 2-D games like Avatar. What PC do you use that does that?
@sclogse1 3-D? Nvidia 3-D Vision glasses can o.o now computers can run DirectX 11, mine does with my GTX 470, so, 3D Vision + DirectX 11 o ,o any question?
@sclogse1 NVIDIA 3D Vision was available for PCs since 2008, and AMD supports third-party stereoscopic 3D solutions since the Catalyst 10.3 release on March of this year.
@sclogse1 There have been 3d PC games for 2 years, officially, and unofficially...forever.
"PS 3Games already have the info to create 3-D from 2-D games like Avatar. What PC do you use that does that?"
uh....any pc? please learn how stereoscopic 3d works. FYI, 3d gaming is fucking horrible, it messes with your field of view and strains your eyes. Not fun.
La playstation 4 tendrá tanta potencia de cálculo que podrás sentir en tu pene casi las mismas sensaciones que si penetraras a una joven japonesa en tiempo real.
@1mechaman PS3 uses a 3.2 GHz IBM Cell processor (one core and eight SIMD vector processors) and a NVIDIA RSX GPU (based on the G70 chip, the same one used on the GeForce 7800/7900 series).
Cell's core, the PPE, performs similar to a G5 processor. That means even today's value options (Intel Wolfdale and AMD Regor) outperform it. The GPU is comparable to the GeForce GT430 and Radeon HD5570. Accounting in Cell's SIMD units (SPEs), it compares to a GT240/HD5670 in FLOPS performance.
PS3 all the way for me. I've had all 3 consoles and never been disappointed with it. It always seems to be better than the alternatives. I'm sure X-box is good but I lost interest in it the second I saw the controller. Games are getting too big. I don't have time to play them. Red Dead Redemption is the first game I've wanted bad but did not buy on account of the size of it, PS4 would be out before I finished it. Nowadays I'm happy to shoot some zombies in the face and call it a night.
You know, ancestors of your probably experienced the effects of war, plague and famine, and smiled through it, and here you are, whining like a little girl with an ice cream headache about a free video.
Please, for the love of god, grow a sense of proportion, you silly little bitch.
You can tell someone is a PS3 nut job when they carry on about 4D bullshit.
Utter rubbish. Oh gamewords change over time? So amazing...4D bullshit.
Both if I had to choose I'd go Xbox 360, more games I'm interested in. When I want to play games with badass graphics I ditch the ancient consoles and jump on my PC which kicks the shit out of both when it comes to graphical power.
I have both a XBOX 360 and a PS3, I have nothing against both, I like XBOX 360 as I like PS3, the only diference is the various exclusive games they both have, like PS3 has Uncharted, XBOX 360 has Gears of War. That's that.
@FcK2420 I know what u mean, but if there was a chance to backup PS3 games, blank Blue-ray discs are too fucking expensive and on the other hand, burning XBOX 360 games is cheaper and so easy to get games 4 free!!!
About the online playing games....you're right, PS3 rocks and free of charge, but theres always a way to hack pc games cause they launch XBOX 360 titles too, so I prefer the XBOX 360 generally!
I know what u mean, but if there was a chance to backup PS3 games, blank Blue-ray discs are too fucking expensive and on the other hand, burning XBOX 360 games is cheaper and so easy to get games 4 free!!!
About the online playing games....you're right, PS3 rocks and free of charge, but theres always a way to hack pc games cause they launch XBOX 360 titles too, so I prefer the XBOX 360 generally!
@FcK2420 I know I am :) but what can I do? I can't seem to understand why I have to buy a recent game (70 euros) in order just to play a couple of hours and then put the game in the shelf!!! But then again, maybe I am a cheap bastard, but of the record...I am also a smart buyer!! I only buy what I can seem to get 4 free!
@FJOGHS So you prefer the xbox because you can hack and steal games on it? You know people like you are the reason that console is going to die out, and be left with no first party developers, If any developers at all.
@troganx1 maybe on the ps4? xD but when ps4 is released pc might get something better like on the ps3 they put the new blah blah blah its the best console ever made... but then days later the xXjizz360 lololol graphics card is released and it makes pc more advanced
La play 3. es mejor q la 360, x su reproductor de blue ray, su compatibilidad de juegos con ps2 y ps3, q la 360 no puede ni tiene, no se calienta tanto como la 360...y aunq su memoria ram..es menor q la 360, pero los juegos dejan mucho q ver..que los de la ps3, se ven mejores q la 360,ademas de q sus controles,usan baterias y las del ps3 son recargables x usb..lee todo tipo de video..audio y imagnes, en alta deficinion, por eso y mas, la 360 se queda corta
tienen la misma RAM, pero el RAM de la ps3 va a 1.3 GHZ (1300 MHZ) mientras q la ram de la 360 va a solo 500 MHZ lo q hace la ps3 mas rapida q la shitbox 360.
because most of the game is excuted directly off of the Blu-ray disc and by passes the RAM completely it actually reads the disc faster than most RAM.
Data is still streamed off the blu-ray but the RAM is VITAL for PS3 games and really all for all modern games consoles and PCs too.
Trying to run a PS3 game without using the RAM is almost impossible and gives no advantages.
N64 did kind of bypass the RAM for a few certain games, but that was a very special circumstance due the unusually high bus size and speed of the cartridge media. It was also VERY hard to pull off.
No, dumbfuck. CPU has a speed in MHZ or GHZ RAM also has a speed in mhz or ghz. PS3: 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz -CPU 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz-GPU 3.2ghz Ram is FUCKING amazing, the 700mhz ram is fucking DEDICATED to the GPU. DEDICATED ram is MUCH faster than shared. Xbox 360: 512 MB GDDR3 RAM @ 700 MHz DDR (SHARED) Thats FUCKING shared, and the same speed as PS3's GPU RAM. PS3's CPU RAM @ 3.2ghz makes so the RAM can WORK FASTER. XDR ram is used for the ps3 CPU, and IS the worlds fastest RAM.
Please note, the ps3 doesnt have the most powerful PROCESSOR.
It has 8 SPU's all clocked at 3.2ghz (Cell processor), the xbox 360 has 3 CPUS @ 3.2ghz. PS3's can work together and can EASILY beat xbox 360's though. There are some super computers that are faster than the ps3, but the ps3 is still VERY powerful with its Cell Processor and the XDR RAM used with it.
The RSX was a great GPU at start AND still is..Yes its no longer a 'good' GPU compared to others, but you have to remember GPUs come out every 2-4 months so they are continuously getting better.
Also, the RSX does exatcly what its supposed to do, put out a good picture quality and good FPS.
One more thing, the Cell helps out RSX to make it perform better.
Look at the games. GT5:P, GT5, Uncharted 1&2, Motorstrom 1&2, MGS4, Killzone 2, MLB: The Show, Heavy Rain, GoW 3, etc..
You are definitely right. I personally think this generation of consoles is a great one. Games look great, consoles are cheap (compared to top-end PC), and quality games are rolling in.
It's nice meeting someone who knows the facts about the PS3 instead of just saying XBOX SUX LOL.
@JKBenchmarks but still the pc is upgradable...a console...isnt...pc playing gta = minimal lag with lots of crap going on (explosions or w/e) same scene on a ps3 will be produced but it will lag...and the 360 will lag as well ...in my case my 360 went into stop frame mode... i have a ps3 and a 360 (to eliminate some bias) i played gta iv dlc on all 3 systems...pc no probs, ps3 lil lag here n there...360...just like died...it was literally about 4-5 frames. joy!
@OpticalxXxYoroxXx Nah timeshift is different, it has nothing to do with the timesplitters series, maybe it's by the same creators, but i'm not sure...
@JKBenchmarks ps3 is great and all , and sony did a great jop with all the 3 playstaions .. but sry man i dont need a yop end pc to top the ps3 graphics ..my pc only cost like 650-750 dollars and dont forget that i get cheaper games as well as frequent sale and packages .. sry for my bad english
@JKBenchmarks i would'nt say they're thattt cheap, a PS3'S around £250 right? for £300-£350 i could easily buy/build a pc capable of maxing out games like crysis with texture mods, GTA IV and Metro 2033, Things seem to be getting alot cheaper though so :D
I've never heard where the cpu assists the gpu in such a way. I'm kinda new into computers but imo, a gpu needing assistance from the cpu sounds like the gpu is not that well. I have looked it up and did some research and i saw that the cell processor has zero configurations for video graphic. The way to look at it would be using a program on your computer to benchmark your cpu's performance and some will actually generate 3d graphics with the cpu by itself.
My point being, if the gpu requires the cpu's assistance to perform at higher speeds then the gpu isn't that powerful. The main purpose of a gpu is to open up the possibility for a computer to play higher detailed graphics. The gpu's use is so that the cpu does not have to be built into a gpu/cpu hybrid (which would be really interesting..). Also, Uncharted 2 has high quality graphics but the game does not support AA. Which makes games with less detail look better.
@InsanityRewritten Uncharted 2 does support anti-aliasing. In fact, it uses 2x MSAA.
As for the "CPU assistance"... PS3's processor, IBM Cell, has parallel SIMD units (SPEs) quite similar to the stream processors on modern GPUs. Because of that, developers have the possibility of offloading the post-processing tasks from RSX's shaders to Cell's SPEs. That way, you have post-processing effects without stressing the GPU, but that also allows RSX to occupy itself with more regular shading tasks.
You would be correct, because this is the only time this happens. GPUs, especially nowadays, will not need any help from its CPU since they are so powerful. But in PS3s case its different, the RSX was a good GPU when it came out, but since then PC GPUs have far surpassed the RSX and other console GPUs. The Cell has 8 SPEs in which are able to offload a lot of the graphics work off the RSX on to the SPEs. So, really you have as Insomniac said "A GPGPU solution.".
That is the nature of RISC CPUs, which the 360 already uses. it takes fewer CPU cycles and a dash more memory than the standard x86 CISC to execute instructions, which is why the G5 was such a beast at 2.7GHz.
Any developer that has programed for the PS3 several times knows how the Cell works..Although 3rd part dev. are a little slower in this process, since they aren't continuously programing with the PS3.
Windows OS can easily be used with the Cell processor, the only thing is they need to program it into correctly..
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ram dosent matter at all u dumbass and the future is coming where a ram is not needed and a processor is capable of handling all situations so shut up you old man.......
mrh112, the PS3 is a streaming console. That split pool of 512MB is enough to hand the X360 it's @ss. Killzone 2 only used 297.1MB of out that 512MB, for instance.
If you want to see something weird, look at Uncharted 2 screenshots. A console standing with a high end PC in HIGH REZ TEXTURES! How weird is that? Plus, it will have 7.1 discrete LPCM audio and better A.I. and animations, etc. Old perceptions of what a console can do are being destroyed. PS3 tech is highly advanced.
Just to give you some CPU numbers, Cell's inter-core bandwidth alone is 197GB/s (proven). The new $1000 Intel Core i7 965XE TOTAL bandwidth (memory, cache, inter-core) is only 106GB/s. Cell has 8 active cores. Intel Core i7 965XE has 4 active cores.
Software has to be optimized to run and use all of that power and that equals more expensive games and longer wait times plus more work on the developer.
@AscendedSaiyan3 i might be a year late to reply..... bit.... um... insomniac is releasing 2 games in 2011, ratchet and clank all 4 one, and resistance 3... quick development times for games :].
Not really. Resistance 2 came out in 08 and A Crack in Time in 2009, thats 2 and 3 years of developing on the sequels, hardly quick development times.
girlsdrinkfeck, if it didn't take use power to render 16 cars in a race using 1080 lines of native resolution at 60fps, the Wii or X360 would have done it.
The closest they have is 720 lines with 8 cars at 60fps (Forza 2). PGR4 is 720 lines 8 cars at 30fps.
and if the cell isnt fully utilised , why not ? ohh i get it , its so fukcking shit no one can be arsed to programme for it because its a pile of shit compared to the superior x86/64 chips , a SPE is NOT a core , its a part of a single independant CPU , my quad core is 4 indepedant cores , ps3 has 1 independant core , and number crunching isnt a proper benchmark either , gaming is
also most ps3 games r in 720p , this means they r upscaled to 1080p for hdtv's , hence textures r stretched , most modoern Pc games r at 1600p , beats the ps3's shitty 720 or 1080p res, idiot , also gta4 is so fail on the ps3 , its sooo slow and laggy and compared to the ps3 the graphical settings r on low, ,and gt5 is the worst racign sim there is , its liek bumper cars , awful physics compared to the likes of a proper Pc racing sim ,
You talk about resolution, but let me put it to you THIS way. When you tell your PC game to render at 720p, do you get an increase in geometry and character models, gun models, physics based weather, physics based particle collisions, ray-tracing of EVERY bullet hole, DISCRETE 7.1 LPCM audio, animations, amount of characters on screen, etc. like in Killzone 2? The answer is no.
BTW, MLB 09:The Show is 1920x1080p/60fps. So is Wipeout HD. GT5P is 1280x1080p/60fps (garage area is full 1080p).
stop going on about ray tracing , it isnt in any game yet , u such a failure . and i said MOST ps3 games r at native 720 that r upscaled to full hd , hence stretched resolution , most Pc games r built at 1600p so textures look pure and sharp , like they did for the GTA4 port on the PC , btw gta4 on ps3 is 720p at 30fps , FAIL !!! , and u just talkign spew ,the ps3 is outdated , ther ps3 was outdated on release compared to a top spec PC at the time , and kz2 just looks no better than crysis!lol
This is over. Nothing more can come of me telling the truth are you spewing crap. You initially said, "and no ps3 game comes close to a PC title still". I proved that to be incorrect. You can go into fits of PC fanboy denial convulsions and changing the subject by yourself.
All these things are easily researched. I suggest you do that.
the ps3 isnt a bad console , its just a bit of a failure when it comes to sales , seriosuly , had to half its retail price to half to start selling ? and people still wud rather get a xbox even tho it has rrod's lol , listen , PC is in a different league than xbox or ps3 , so is the wii , TBH u cannot compare PC wii and ps3/xbox , because PC is always superior in power , nintendo is superior in fun and the othe consoles r a good all rounder for the poor people of society , so its all good :)
I agree with you feck I argued with you and we both lost lol.
PS3 is outdated obviosly. So is 360. A good PC beats the shit out of them both in every area. The Wii is about the power of a PS2 so it's in an entirely different arena.
Raytracing on a *current* console is bullshit if you want any kind of HD. Enemy Teritory: Quake Wars using it at 720p needs a 16 core Tigerton system to run it at 14-29 frames per second so stfu about that.
I own a PS3 and like it and don't mind the 360. Stop.
AFunyun, I don't think you fully understand with the Cell is. Intel has Cell-like processors planned in the future. Look at their processor roadmap. A good PC does NOT be the PS3 in every area. A good PC GPU beats the RSX, but NO consumer processor from Intel beats the Cell, yet. There aren't even any 8 core Intel chips out. So, you know there aren't any games that take advantage of that.
BTW, GT5P ray-traces the garage scene at 1920x1080p. "The more you know..."
You are so wrong. Why am I responding to someone that doesn't know their tech?
The PS3 uses 7 cores for games (1 PPE and 6 SPEs). 6+1=7 cores
The SPEs ARE cores. Where are you getting this crap? Dr. Hofstee, the chief architect of the Cell, says EACH SPU/SPE is a core. Are you trying to claim you have a doctorate in his field and therefore know better than him?
Also, each SPE can b walled off to work COMPLETELY independent of the others. That's why there is a near linear increase in performance as more SPEs are added to a job. Currently, there are NO other processors from Intel or AMD that scale in such a manner. That is because their processors are NOT asymmetrical. So, YES SPEs CAN work with independant timing and better than a symmetrical processor can.
BTW, 1 SPE is walled off in such a manner for the OS.
Intel Core i7 965 XE CPU costs $1000. If you add ALL the bandwidth (cache, memory, and inter-core bandwidth) it would = 106 GB/s (proven).
Cell costs $400 (total price of PS3). The inter-core bandwidth alone is 197 GB/s (proven).
Each core in the Core i7 performs 2 operations per clock cycle.
Each SPU core in the Cell performs 4 operations per clock cycle. PS3 has 7 cores dedicated to game code (1 PPE and 6 SPUs). The PPE is 2 operations per clock cycle.
and no ps3 game comes close to a PC title still , so whats the point ? and the cell is a peice of shit for gaming , FACT, a SPE cannot work with independant timings , thats what the PPE does , whereas ALL 8 threads on a i7 can work independantly in timings
No games comes close to a PC title? GT5P, Killzone 2, MLB 09: The Show, Motorstorm 2, and Wipeout HD says hello! Name 1 PC racing sim that looks as good as GT5P and with as many cars on the track, ray-traced lighting, etc. Name 1 off-road racer that has the geometry, amount of vehicles and physics of Motorstorm 2. Name 1 PC sports tite that looks as good, has global ighting, the amount of animations, etc. Uncharted 2 is coming.
You can't name one. Please don't turn this into a PC fanboy thing.
i aint seen rnay tracing on REAL games , onbly on tech demos , and they been shown on Pc since like 2001 , and killzone 2 looks average , gt5p is the most unrealistic racing sim ever , dunno wtf mlb is , and crysis looks better than any game out atm and the games nearly 2 yrs old now !!! and gta4 on Pc looks superior and is superior . motorstorm is bland and boring full of motion blur so u cannot see the slow rendered textures etc etc ,
See, girlsdrinkfeck, you just admitted defeat. GT5P has ray-traced lighting at 1080p. Since you haven't seen that before in your PC games, that kind of ends the discussion. However, I know the fanboy in you won't let this go.
People know you are a fanboy when you say things like Killzone 2 is average in technical prowess OR review wise. BTW, I haven't seen a name of a PC game in each genre that beats the ones I listed. End game.
You are not talking science. You are just spouting fanboy crap. It was Quake 4 and was 720p (NOT available for purchase on PC). Anyway, the Cell is STILL far from being fully utilized. Uncharted 2 will be the first game closest to that goal, but it is still far from maxing the performance from the Cell.
That's how much of a fanboy you are. You said you hadn't seen a game on PC with ray-tracing. NOW, you are trying to say you have (and with an experiment on an OLD games with OLD tech assets).
i see no ray traced ps3 game , whats yer point ? and pc games have always looked superior to any ps3 game , u fail , stop arguing , u get what u pay for , the ps3 is just a cheap tacky plastic machine with a over rated server chip inside it and a horribly OLD 7800gtx inside it , i got a fucking 4870x2 that has 2 gigs of VRAM and 8 gigs of 800mhz compared to the ps3's 512mb of 70mhz ram and its shitty 512mb gtx chip , u fail , i win , that is technical superior specs
shut the fuck off you pussies! why must we constantly fight over which is better! ALL FUCKING CONSOLS ARE THE SAME AND SHOULD BE TREATED THE FUCKING SAME!!!! IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM ACCEPTING THAT THEN IT TIME TO CRAWL OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOMMA'S ASS HOLE AND JUST FUCKING ACCEPT IT GOD DAMNIT!!!
the intel i7 beats this processor na it don only the i7 has faster ram stuff and it will seem faster but isnt ps3 the first 8 core processor sold in retail but why not in a pc yet lol
the cell processor is made to run parallel processing tasks with high floating point usage and is actually slower and less flexible when used for multitasking and general desktop usage.
GPU processors are very similar to the cell's design because they have to handle the same tasks (massive parallel processing).
That's why nVidia released the Cuda SDK to use all that GPU power for supercomputing and server needs ie. simulations, realtime rendering, etc...
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PS3 sucks BALLS. that's exactly why fallout 3 DLC was NOT and WILL NOT be released for it, Grand theft auto IV lost and damned (a franchise that was originally 'exclusive' for the ps3) was NOT released for it, final fantasy is no longer exclusive to it, and developers such as Square Enix have specifically said that developing for the PS3 is total crap.
you mean that fallout crappy dlc that is crashing on you guys 500 times a day ? and that ugly looking lost and damned grainy shit effect making liberty city look like a pile a shit ? sure i played those nothing to be proud off mate microsoft paid big bucks for 4 hour of gameplay do we care ? NO enjoy your final fantasy on 3 discs we will wait for the VS ;) now go play your glitch of war 2 and gtfo why are you even watching this ? are you getting scared :p
First do u know why lost and damned didnt got out for PS3 because Microsoft PAID for it u dumbshit. PS3 has much better hardware and much better features and less failure rate, now that you have the facts from someone who knows what he's saying, tell me: How does PS3 suck?? Because u cant afford it?? sad
lol ok dumbass, first off new technology comes out every day for the pc, and you cant upgrade a PS3, the ps3 already loses compared to pc graphics these days
For goodness sakes,why are ppl comparing consoles and pc's, yes pc's will always be more powerful, and dont forget all the other backgrounds tasks a pc has to deal wiv not just games and graphics, so they need to be powerful and loaded wiv memory. But you cant knock consoles, they dont require vast amounts of hardeware and a high budget to get a game to run at acceptible level. And at the ps3 and 360 pricepoints your getting 5-10 yrs of garanteed performance wivout breaking the bank every 18mnts
1:25 Hello Battlefield 3, I understand you'll be doing this five times larger all the time, yes?
unbrokenjack 7 months ago
Consoles are made at a loss, The revinue is made by us buying games. Because PC users may not neccasary use them for games they have to pay list prices.
187781jason 1 year ago
@187781jason It probably isn't a loss, but the profits definitely are not as high as the companies would like.
Knexxuss 7 months ago
@Knexxuss
How do you exsplain that when the Xbox was released, it's graphics card alone cost 1 1/2 times the price of the console to buy on it's own?
Not to mention it's hard drive, board, cd drive, and other component parts. The maths dont add up...
The revinue is made from game sales, It has to be. every £10 per game goes to the console company. PC gamers pay list prices for components, that's why games are £10 cheaper.
187781jason 7 months ago
I think the best part about owning a console is that you don't have to worry weather or not you can run it.. Unless you have a ps2 and try to play PS3 games, then you have problems..
wildfire9012 1 year ago
my pc can do better, but it costs more then a ps3 but that kind of makes sense you can do alot more on a pc and game at the same time, hmm but ok.
yoyoboy70 1 year ago
lol a PC can eat Wii PS3 and 360 for dinner
ToToo088 1 year ago
@ToToo088
PS3 can play 3-D now...with the latest firmware. I've seen it at a Panasonic demo using Panasonic glasses. PS 3Games already have the info to create 3-D from 2-D games like Avatar. What PC do you use that does that?
sclogse1 1 year ago
@sclogse1 3-D? Nvidia 3-D Vision glasses can o.o now computers can run DirectX 11, mine does with my GTX 470, so, 3D Vision + DirectX 11 o ,o any question?
ToToo088 1 year ago
@sclogse1 NVIDIA 3D Vision was available for PCs since 2008, and AMD supports third-party stereoscopic 3D solutions since the Catalyst 10.3 release on March of this year.
NewLynxChannel 1 year ago
@sclogse1 There have been 3d PC games for 2 years, officially, and unofficially...forever.
"PS 3Games already have the info to create 3-D from 2-D games like Avatar. What PC do you use that does that?"
uh....any pc? please learn how stereoscopic 3d works. FYI, 3d gaming is fucking horrible, it messes with your field of view and strains your eyes. Not fun.
pamew 1 year ago
I... i no understand.
TheDarklord0211 1 year ago
La playstation 4 tendrá tanta potencia de cálculo que podrás sentir en tu pene casi las mismas sensaciones que si penetraras a una joven japonesa en tiempo real.
pterodactilo 1 year ago
can anyone give m ethe ps3 graphics card and its procesor and their pc counterparts?
1mechaman 1 year ago
@1mechaman PS3 uses a 3.2 GHz IBM Cell processor (one core and eight SIMD vector processors) and a NVIDIA RSX GPU (based on the G70 chip, the same one used on the GeForce 7800/7900 series).
Cell's core, the PPE, performs similar to a G5 processor. That means even today's value options (Intel Wolfdale and AMD Regor) outperform it. The GPU is comparable to the GeForce GT430 and Radeon HD5570. Accounting in Cell's SIMD units (SPEs), it compares to a GT240/HD5670 in FLOPS performance.
NewLynxChannel 1 year ago
Good thing I know english and spanish.
PS : ics bocs sacs :P
GholaTlx 1 year ago
PS3 all the way for me. I've had all 3 consoles and never been disappointed with it. It always seems to be better than the alternatives. I'm sure X-box is good but I lost interest in it the second I saw the controller. Games are getting too big. I don't have time to play them. Red Dead Redemption is the first game I've wanted bad but did not buy on account of the size of it, PS4 would be out before I finished it. Nowadays I'm happy to shoot some zombies in the face and call it a night.
Dave54600 1 year ago
@Dave54600
If u really put ur mind to it u can finish RDR in 4/5 days . It's an amazing game man , don't miss out !
khalid7377 1 year ago
Why the FUCK do you stupid foreigners post the video title IN ENGLISH when the content IS FUCKING SPANISH.
DramaticPrairieDog 1 year ago 9
@DramaticPrairieDog WHY ARE YOU A DOG? DOGS CAN'T USE A KEYBOARD!
CreatureFearing 1 year ago
@DramaticPrairieDog cause as we have learned your language, so do you
AntiEmoMetalhead92 1 year ago
@DramaticPrairieDog haha.
You know, ancestors of your probably experienced the effects of war, plague and famine, and smiled through it, and here you are, whining like a little girl with an ice cream headache about a free video.
Please, for the love of god, grow a sense of proportion, you silly little bitch.
pamew 1 year ago
@pamew Dude you are a sad sad little girl..
DramaticPrairieDog 1 year ago
@DramaticPrairieDog "I have no comeback and a complete lack of an imagination, so I'll just use the same insult you used in a much clumsier fashion"
- DramaticPrairieDog.
pamew 1 year ago
@pamew Whatever wanker, atleast im not writing an entire essay about a youtube comment with a justified arguement.
DramaticPrairieDog 1 year ago
@DramaticPrairieDog You seem to be acting very much like the little girl I described you as. Keep up the hissy fit there, Susan.
pamew 1 year ago
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@pamew You are boring me, bye
DramaticPrairieDog 1 year ago
@DramaticPrairieDog Your the foreigner
bretert 1 month ago
te apollo... 1 de los mejores juegos que e jugado es el de bad company 2 dond el sonido es envolvente y los efectos de video son lo mejor
nurember2009 1 year ago
hehe Playstation 4 with Claytronics... THAT WOULD ROCK!
PAINmedia 1 year ago
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capcody3456789 1 year ago
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SaturdayFighter 1 year ago
You can tell someone is a PS3 nut job when they carry on about 4D bullshit.
Utter rubbish. Oh gamewords change over time? So amazing...4D bullshit.
Both if I had to choose I'd go Xbox 360, more games I'm interested in. When I want to play games with badass graphics I ditch the ancient consoles and jump on my PC which kicks the shit out of both when it comes to graphical power.
cookman283 1 year ago
Stop saying shit like "PS3 IS BETTER THAN THE XBOX BECUZ XBOX SUX"
or "PS3 SUX BECUZ PS3 IS SUCKISH".
uitham 1 year ago
@uitham calm down man lol its their own opinion
NvidiaPWND 1 year ago
The quality of this video looks horrible. They used the shittiest capture card they could find.
rockboy365987826 1 year ago
I have both a XBOX 360 and a PS3, I have nothing against both, I like XBOX 360 as I like PS3, the only diference is the various exclusive games they both have, like PS3 has Uncharted, XBOX 360 has Gears of War. That's that.
FJOGHS 1 year ago
@FJOGHS BLUE RAY!!!!!!! AND FREE ONLINE!!!!!!!
FcK2420 1 year ago
@FcK2420 I know what u mean, but if there was a chance to backup PS3 games, blank Blue-ray discs are too fucking expensive and on the other hand, burning XBOX 360 games is cheaper and so easy to get games 4 free!!!
About the online playing games....you're right, PS3 rocks and free of charge, but theres always a way to hack pc games cause they launch XBOX 360 titles too, so I prefer the XBOX 360 generally!
FJOGHS 1 year ago
I know what u mean, but if there was a chance to backup PS3 games, blank Blue-ray discs are too fucking expensive and on the other hand, burning XBOX 360 games is cheaper and so easy to get games 4 free!!!
About the online playing games....you're right, PS3 rocks and free of charge, but theres always a way to hack pc games cause they launch XBOX 360 titles too, so I prefer the XBOX 360 generally!
FJOGHS 1 year ago
@FJOGHS lolz some of us are honest people who buy their things lol. cheap bastard lol haha.
FcK2420 1 year ago
@FcK2420 I know I am :) but what can I do? I can't seem to understand why I have to buy a recent game (70 euros) in order just to play a couple of hours and then put the game in the shelf!!! But then again, maybe I am a cheap bastard, but of the record...I am also a smart buyer!! I only buy what I can seem to get 4 free!
FJOGHS 1 year ago
@FJOGHS if its free you dont buy it ;D you just get it!!! ;D
And most games i play lasts more than a couple of hours(multiplayer) ;)
FcK2420 1 year ago
@FJOGHS So you prefer the xbox because you can hack and steal games on it? You know people like you are the reason that console is going to die out, and be left with no first party developers, If any developers at all.
LostTheGaaaaaaame 1 year ago
I remember seeing this video, or clips of it back in 2006. Now these graphics and effects look dated.
187781jason 1 year ago
PS3 is the best and most advanced videogame system in the world.
thekiller199 2 years ago 3
Either you're dumb or I'm being fooled by sarcasm.
faggotcracked 2 years ago
Pudrete.
thekiller199 2 years ago
it could be
chicouniversal 2 years ago
lo es
thekiller199 2 years ago
Are you forgetting the PC?
trentsmumma 2 years ago
@thekiller199 Either your joking, or your a complete idiot...
dragefyr 1 year ago
@dragefyr tell me what videogame console is better than ps3 hahaa crap360?
the most defective console in the history of the world/?? haahhahahahaahha
thekiller199 1 year ago
@thekiller199 Your first comment you said videogame system, wich is a tootal lie....
now your saying console. In consoles the PS3 is the winner
In general videogame systems its with no doubt unless your the most unintelligent lifeform on planet earth.
The PC.
dragefyr 1 year ago
@thekiller199 Xbox 360 is defective or you are a troll? One of those is 100% true.
0121ryanh117 1 year ago
@0121ryanh117
OMG en que mundo vives amigo? LOL,LOL,LOL
XBOX 360 IS THE MOST DEFECTIVE CONSOLE IN THE WORLD ITS NOT AN OPINION ITS AN ABSOLUTE FACT
thekiller199 1 year ago
@dragefyr its not an opinion its an absolute fact
thekiller199 1 year ago
@thekiller199 No,It can cap only 30 FPS.
PC's are obviously enhancing more everyday. You wouldn't see a fucking 16 core Processor in a console,would you?
troganx1 2 months ago
@troganx1
hahaha ok relax i'm not a nerd anymore
(:
thekiller199 2 months ago
@troganx1 maybe on the ps4? xD but when ps4 is released pc might get something better like on the ps3 they put the new blah blah blah its the best console ever made... but then days later the xXjizz360 lololol graphics card is released and it makes pc more advanced
jog10210 2 months ago
La play 3. es mejor q la 360, x su reproductor de blue ray, su compatibilidad de juegos con ps2 y ps3, q la 360 no puede ni tiene, no se calienta tanto como la 360...y aunq su memoria ram..es menor q la 360, pero los juegos dejan mucho q ver..que los de la ps3, se ven mejores q la 360,ademas de q sus controles,usan baterias y las del ps3 son recargables x usb..lee todo tipo de video..audio y imagnes, en alta deficinion, por eso y mas, la 360 se queda corta
JEmmaU2DMCP 2 years ago
tienen la misma RAM, pero el RAM de la ps3 va a 1.3 GHZ (1300 MHZ) mientras q la ram de la 360 va a solo 500 MHZ lo q hace la ps3 mas rapida q la shitbox 360.
MegadrixfireZ 1 year ago
quitate la pinza de la nari tio.
pabletediaz 2 years ago
ps3 actually performed better than that even and at that time we thought it was amazing
AlienInsectX 2 years ago
i still think that is amazing...
starcraft2zergfan 2 years ago
lol gotta love them old nvidia tech demos like last chance gas
innocenceislife 2 years ago
does the PS3 have 512mb of RAM because GTA IV for the PC requires 2.5GB of RAM to run?
PSNDanjam123 2 years ago
huh? You dont need to check the hardware of the PS3 to run games, if the game is made on PS3 thats because the PS3 can handle it.
GeForce47 2 years ago
because most of the game is excuted directly off of the Blu-ray disc and by passes the RAM completely it actually reads the disc faster than most RAM.
cutty02 2 years ago
Data is still streamed off the blu-ray but the RAM is VITAL for PS3 games and really all for all modern games consoles and PCs too.
Trying to run a PS3 game without using the RAM is almost impossible and gives no advantages.
N64 did kind of bypass the RAM for a few certain games, but that was a very special circumstance due the unusually high bus size and speed of the cartridge media. It was also VERY hard to pull off.
Treblaine 2 years ago
Well, because you need RAM to do anything that relates to modern day computer calculation, you cannot really run a computer without RAM.
generalcircle 2 years ago 3
Lol you fail at tech.
Birdiejb94 2 years ago
Damn it's nice to read you guys comments, I know for a fact thas ps3's the bomb but reading facts for what they are makes it even better
felix123321123 2 years ago
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ps3 not enough ram full stop
bushgreen 2 years ago
All consoles have shit RAM. Pc's FTW!
shadow5games 2 years ago
PS3 has the fastest RAM in the world...Dumbass...Its clock speed is FAST AS HELL.
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago 2
what is it? I bet a PC can beat it. ive seen someone with 12 gb of ram and i heard its possible to go higher
CheapAssMediaProd 2 years ago
So, since it has "faster ram", it should be faster than any computer in the world, right? Thanks for clearing up my questions regarding ram... Retard
Zachey2001 2 years ago
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago 2
Please note, the ps3 doesnt have the most powerful PROCESSOR.
It has 8 SPU's all clocked at 3.2ghz (Cell processor), the xbox 360 has 3 CPUS @ 3.2ghz. PS3's can work together and can EASILY beat xbox 360's though. There are some super computers that are faster than the ps3, but the ps3 is still VERY powerful with its Cell Processor and the XDR RAM used with it.
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago
JKBenchmarks
The RSX was a great GPU at start AND still is..Yes its no longer a 'good' GPU compared to others, but you have to remember GPUs come out every 2-4 months so they are continuously getting better.
Also, the RSX does exatcly what its supposed to do, put out a good picture quality and good FPS.
One more thing, the Cell helps out RSX to make it perform better.
Look at the games. GT5:P, GT5, Uncharted 1&2, Motorstrom 1&2, MGS4, Killzone 2, MLB: The Show, Heavy Rain, GoW 3, etc..
snowman8510 2 years ago 7
You are definitely right. I personally think this generation of consoles is a great one. Games look great, consoles are cheap (compared to top-end PC), and quality games are rolling in.
It's nice meeting someone who knows the facts about the PS3 instead of just saying XBOX SUX LOL.
JKBenchmarks 2 years ago 32
@JKBenchmarks but still the pc is upgradable...a console...isnt...pc playing gta = minimal lag with lots of crap going on (explosions or w/e) same scene on a ps3 will be produced but it will lag...and the 360 will lag as well ...in my case my 360 went into stop frame mode... i have a ps3 and a 360 (to eliminate some bias) i played gta iv dlc on all 3 systems...pc no probs, ps3 lil lag here n there...360...just like died...it was literally about 4-5 frames. joy!
sgtGrif 1 year ago
@JKBenchmarks yeah but I miss the old PS2 games like time splitters for example..., nowadays games are really good looking but they're too serious..
sacreou 1 year ago
@sacreou time splitters?is that an fps?
OpticalxXxYoroxXx 1 year ago
@OpticalxXxYoroxXx yup ;)
sacreou 1 year ago
@sacreou didnt they make a sequel for ps3?or is timeshift different?
OpticalxXxYoroxXx 1 year ago
@OpticalxXxYoroxXx Nah timeshift is different, it has nothing to do with the timesplitters series, maybe it's by the same creators, but i'm not sure...
sacreou 1 year ago
@sacreou oh,nvm lol.
OpticalxXxYoroxXx 1 year ago
@JKBenchmarks If you compare the power, you'll see that PCs are much more bang for your buck.
source707 1 year ago
@JKBenchmarks ps3 is great and all , and sony did a great jop with all the 3 playstaions .. but sry man i dont need a yop end pc to top the ps3 graphics ..my pc only cost like 650-750 dollars and dont forget that i get cheaper games as well as frequent sale and packages .. sry for my bad english
Tn4sh21 1 year ago
@JKBenchmarks we are not in a console generation any more. the day of the "console" is gone. they are all purpose media machines now.
GT5Enthusiast 1 year ago
@JKBenchmarks i would'nt say they're thattt cheap, a PS3'S around £250 right? for £300-£350 i could easily buy/build a pc capable of maxing out games like crysis with texture mods, GTA IV and Metro 2033, Things seem to be getting alot cheaper though so :D
AlienwareGamerM11x 1 year ago
@snowman8510
I've never heard where the cpu assists the gpu in such a way. I'm kinda new into computers but imo, a gpu needing assistance from the cpu sounds like the gpu is not that well. I have looked it up and did some research and i saw that the cell processor has zero configurations for video graphic. The way to look at it would be using a program on your computer to benchmark your cpu's performance and some will actually generate 3d graphics with the cpu by itself.
InsanityRewritten 1 year ago
@InsanityRewritten
My point being, if the gpu requires the cpu's assistance to perform at higher speeds then the gpu isn't that powerful. The main purpose of a gpu is to open up the possibility for a computer to play higher detailed graphics. The gpu's use is so that the cpu does not have to be built into a gpu/cpu hybrid (which would be really interesting..). Also, Uncharted 2 has high quality graphics but the game does not support AA. Which makes games with less detail look better.
InsanityRewritten 1 year ago
@InsanityRewritten Uncharted 2 does support anti-aliasing. In fact, it uses 2x MSAA.
As for the "CPU assistance"... PS3's processor, IBM Cell, has parallel SIMD units (SPEs) quite similar to the stream processors on modern GPUs. Because of that, developers have the possibility of offloading the post-processing tasks from RSX's shaders to Cell's SPEs. That way, you have post-processing effects without stressing the GPU, but that also allows RSX to occupy itself with more regular shading tasks.
NewLynxChannel 1 year ago
@InsanityRewritten
You would be correct, because this is the only time this happens. GPUs, especially nowadays, will not need any help from its CPU since they are so powerful. But in PS3s case its different, the RSX was a good GPU when it came out, but since then PC GPUs have far surpassed the RSX and other console GPUs. The Cell has 8 SPEs in which are able to offload a lot of the graphics work off the RSX on to the SPEs. So, really you have as Insomniac said "A GPGPU solution.".
snowman8510 1 year ago
Cells is future :-)
i bet Xbox 720 will use cell lol
kiwi539 2 years ago
Cell processors are horrible.
Sure, they are powerful, but they must be told EXACTLY what to do.
This makes debugging code A LOT more complicated for any cell than any x86 based processor.
JKBenchmarks 2 years ago
That is the nature of RISC CPUs, which the 360 already uses. it takes fewer CPU cycles and a dash more memory than the standard x86 CISC to execute instructions, which is why the G5 was such a beast at 2.7GHz.
hal970fx 2 years ago
JKBenchmarks
You do realise that the Cell processor has YET to be outperformed by ANY CPU, right?
snowman8510 2 years ago
I do know that. Cell processors have huge amounts of power available.
However, applications have been written for x86 based microprocessors for decades. Most people are not familiar with programming a cell processor.
That is why they will never catch on, unless they become available to public with a Windows OS optimized for Cell processors.
I really hope that a new GPU is used in the PS3 eventually. It is so weak... that is its bottleneck.
JKBenchmarks 2 years ago
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snowman8510 2 years ago
JKBenchmarks
You are partly correct.
Any developer that has programed for the PS3 several times knows how the Cell works..Although 3rd part dev. are a little slower in this process, since they aren't continuously programing with the PS3.
Windows OS can easily be used with the Cell processor, the only thing is they need to program it into correctly..
Look at my next comment about RSX..
snowman8510 2 years ago
actually the 360 uses basically a modified tripplecore version of the Cell's PPU, it is not a powerful because it lacks the vector processors.
hal970fx 2 years ago
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ram dosent matter at all u dumbass and the future is coming where a ram is not needed and a processor is capable of handling all situations so shut up you old man.......
DragonmightX 2 years ago
I have seen some retarded comments in my time but this one takes the cake.
AnnoyedDragon 2 years ago 13
lol. I know.
d3tach3d 2 years ago 6
So true.
koolkody12 2 years ago 2
The ps3 on has 512mb of ram but it can use the ram at about 10x (very rough guess dont bitch) more than computers can
GMODCREATOR 2 years ago
fantastic console but what lets it down is the memory it only has 512mb to stop it destroying the xbox 360, a bit unfair but thats the law for you
if it had 2gb or 4gb of ram it could destroy and play and game you give it
mrh112 2 years ago
mrh112, the PS3 is a streaming console. That split pool of 512MB is enough to hand the X360 it's @ss. Killzone 2 only used 297.1MB of out that 512MB, for instance.
If you want to see something weird, look at Uncharted 2 screenshots. A console standing with a high end PC in HIGH REZ TEXTURES! How weird is that? Plus, it will have 7.1 discrete LPCM audio and better A.I. and animations, etc. Old perceptions of what a console can do are being destroyed. PS3 tech is highly advanced.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
lol dude your cool like your statement.you know about tech
henryakagiddygiddy 2 years ago
ye but it would cost like 999$ if not more...
emretzzon 2 years ago
That's just exaggerating the price
andrewjax 2 years ago
Just to give you some CPU numbers, Cell's inter-core bandwidth alone is 197GB/s (proven). The new $1000 Intel Core i7 965XE TOTAL bandwidth (memory, cache, inter-core) is only 106GB/s. Cell has 8 active cores. Intel Core i7 965XE has 4 active cores.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
Software has to be optimized to run and use all of that power and that equals more expensive games and longer wait times plus more work on the developer.
501stTrooper12 2 years ago
Longer wait times?? Is that suppose to mean longer development time for PS3 games?
You mean like 2006 - Resistance.
2007 - Ratchet&Clank Future:ToD.
2008 - Ratchet&Clank Future:QFB.
2008 - Resistance 2.
2009 - Ratchet&Clank Future:ACiT.
All from Insomniac Studios. Name a X360/PC studio able to have a game every year. Again, your post is full of fail.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
@AscendedSaiyan3 i might be a year late to reply..... bit.... um... insomniac is releasing 2 games in 2011, ratchet and clank all 4 one, and resistance 3... quick development times for games :].
daberko120ch 1 year ago
@daberko120ch
Not really. Resistance 2 came out in 08 and A Crack in Time in 2009, thats 2 and 3 years of developing on the sequels, hardly quick development times.
snowman8510 1 year ago
girlsdrinkfeck, if it didn't take use power to render 16 cars in a race using 1080 lines of native resolution at 60fps, the Wii or X360 would have done it.
The closest they have is 720 lines with 8 cars at 60fps (Forza 2). PGR4 is 720 lines 8 cars at 30fps.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
shitbox 360 is NOT a game console....its a home heater.
Huzziii 2 years ago
and isnt hard for crappy racing games that dont use much CPU power to be rendered at 1080 lines doesit ? seriosulyy lmao
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
and if the cell isnt fully utilised , why not ? ohh i get it , its so fukcking shit no one can be arsed to programme for it because its a pile of shit compared to the superior x86/64 chips , a SPE is NOT a core , its a part of a single independant CPU , my quad core is 4 indepedant cores , ps3 has 1 independant core , and number crunching isnt a proper benchmark either , gaming is
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
oh , and GT5 does NOT have ray tracing u idiot !!!! it has tracing bloom affect , a fuckign n64 cud do this
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
also most ps3 games r in 720p , this means they r upscaled to 1080p for hdtv's , hence textures r stretched , most modoern Pc games r at 1600p , beats the ps3's shitty 720 or 1080p res, idiot , also gta4 is so fail on the ps3 , its sooo slow and laggy and compared to the ps3 the graphical settings r on low, ,and gt5 is the worst racign sim there is , its liek bumper cars , awful physics compared to the likes of a proper Pc racing sim ,
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
You talk about resolution, but let me put it to you THIS way. When you tell your PC game to render at 720p, do you get an increase in geometry and character models, gun models, physics based weather, physics based particle collisions, ray-tracing of EVERY bullet hole, DISCRETE 7.1 LPCM audio, animations, amount of characters on screen, etc. like in Killzone 2? The answer is no.
BTW, MLB 09:The Show is 1920x1080p/60fps. So is Wipeout HD. GT5P is 1280x1080p/60fps (garage area is full 1080p).
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago 2
stop going on about ray tracing , it isnt in any game yet , u such a failure . and i said MOST ps3 games r at native 720 that r upscaled to full hd , hence stretched resolution , most Pc games r built at 1600p so textures look pure and sharp , like they did for the GTA4 port on the PC , btw gta4 on ps3 is 720p at 30fps , FAIL !!! , and u just talkign spew ,the ps3 is outdated , ther ps3 was outdated on release compared to a top spec PC at the time , and kz2 just looks no better than crysis!lol
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
This is over. Nothing more can come of me telling the truth are you spewing crap. You initially said, "and no ps3 game comes close to a PC title still". I proved that to be incorrect. You can go into fits of PC fanboy denial convulsions and changing the subject by yourself.
All these things are easily researched. I suggest you do that.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
the ps3 isnt a bad console , its just a bit of a failure when it comes to sales , seriosuly , had to half its retail price to half to start selling ? and people still wud rather get a xbox even tho it has rrod's lol , listen , PC is in a different league than xbox or ps3 , so is the wii , TBH u cannot compare PC wii and ps3/xbox , because PC is always superior in power , nintendo is superior in fun and the othe consoles r a good all rounder for the poor people of society , so its all good :)
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
I agree with you feck I argued with you and we both lost lol.
PS3 is outdated obviosly. So is 360. A good PC beats the shit out of them both in every area. The Wii is about the power of a PS2 so it's in an entirely different arena.
Raytracing on a *current* console is bullshit if you want any kind of HD. Enemy Teritory: Quake Wars using it at 720p needs a 16 core Tigerton system to run it at 14-29 frames per second so stfu about that.
I own a PS3 and like it and don't mind the 360. Stop.
AFunyun 2 years ago
AFunyun, I don't think you fully understand with the Cell is. Intel has Cell-like processors planned in the future. Look at their processor roadmap. A good PC does NOT be the PS3 in every area. A good PC GPU beats the RSX, but NO consumer processor from Intel beats the Cell, yet. There aren't even any 8 core Intel chips out. So, you know there aren't any games that take advantage of that.
BTW, GT5P ray-traces the garage scene at 1920x1080p. "The more you know..."
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
There are consumer PC's with a cell in them. Also the PS3 only utilizes 6 of the 8 "Cores" for games. #7 is for the OS, and 8 is disabled.
Also a Cell SPE (core) is not a core but a separate processor linked to a main controller.
501stTrooper12 2 years ago
You are so wrong. Why am I responding to someone that doesn't know their tech?
The PS3 uses 7 cores for games (1 PPE and 6 SPEs). 6+1=7 cores
The SPEs ARE cores. Where are you getting this crap? Dr. Hofstee, the chief architect of the Cell, says EACH SPU/SPE is a core. Are you trying to claim you have a doctorate in his field and therefore know better than him?
Just please do your research.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago 2
and the fact sony lose money on every ps3 sold , and the games r a rip off , lmao , ps3 is just a toy
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
Also, each SPE can b walled off to work COMPLETELY independent of the others. That's why there is a near linear increase in performance as more SPEs are added to a job. Currently, there are NO other processors from Intel or AMD that scale in such a manner. That is because their processors are NOT asymmetrical. So, YES SPEs CAN work with independant timing and better than a symmetrical processor can.
BTW, 1 SPE is walled off in such a manner for the OS.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
PS1, PS2 and PS3 are great!
Sony needs to take killzone 2's game engine and create uncharted, god of war, metal gear solid 5 and final fantasy 7 remake LOL!
Underwearwhere 2 years ago
Intel Core i7 965 XE CPU costs $1000. If you add ALL the bandwidth (cache, memory, and inter-core bandwidth) it would = 106 GB/s (proven).
Cell costs $400 (total price of PS3). The inter-core bandwidth alone is 197 GB/s (proven).
Each core in the Core i7 performs 2 operations per clock cycle.
Each SPU core in the Cell performs 4 operations per clock cycle. PS3 has 7 cores dedicated to game code (1 PPE and 6 SPUs). The PPE is 2 operations per clock cycle.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
and no ps3 game comes close to a PC title still , so whats the point ? and the cell is a peice of shit for gaming , FACT, a SPE cannot work with independant timings , thats what the PPE does , whereas ALL 8 threads on a i7 can work independantly in timings
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
No games comes close to a PC title? GT5P, Killzone 2, MLB 09: The Show, Motorstorm 2, and Wipeout HD says hello! Name 1 PC racing sim that looks as good as GT5P and with as many cars on the track, ray-traced lighting, etc. Name 1 off-road racer that has the geometry, amount of vehicles and physics of Motorstorm 2. Name 1 PC sports tite that looks as good, has global ighting, the amount of animations, etc. Uncharted 2 is coming.
You can't name one. Please don't turn this into a PC fanboy thing.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
i aint seen rnay tracing on REAL games , onbly on tech demos , and they been shown on Pc since like 2001 , and killzone 2 looks average , gt5p is the most unrealistic racing sim ever , dunno wtf mlb is , and crysis looks better than any game out atm and the games nearly 2 yrs old now !!! and gta4 on Pc looks superior and is superior . motorstorm is bland and boring full of motion blur so u cannot see the slow rendered textures etc etc ,
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
See, girlsdrinkfeck, you just admitted defeat. GT5P has ray-traced lighting at 1080p. Since you haven't seen that before in your PC games, that kind of ends the discussion. However, I know the fanboy in you won't let this go.
People know you are a fanboy when you say things like Killzone 2 is average in technical prowess OR review wise. BTW, I haven't seen a name of a PC game in each genre that beats the ones I listed. End game.
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
um , quake 3 has a ray tracing modificationds , and the game can be run at 1600p , beats yer 1080p , idiot
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
You are not talking science. You are just spouting fanboy crap. It was Quake 4 and was 720p (NOT available for purchase on PC). Anyway, the Cell is STILL far from being fully utilized. Uncharted 2 will be the first game closest to that goal, but it is still far from maxing the performance from the Cell.
That's how much of a fanboy you are. You said you hadn't seen a game on PC with ray-tracing. NOW, you are trying to say you have (and with an experiment on an OLD games with OLD tech assets).
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago 2
i see no ray traced ps3 game , whats yer point ? and pc games have always looked superior to any ps3 game , u fail , stop arguing , u get what u pay for , the ps3 is just a cheap tacky plastic machine with a over rated server chip inside it and a horribly OLD 7800gtx inside it , i got a fucking 4870x2 that has 2 gigs of VRAM and 8 gigs of 800mhz compared to the ps3's 512mb of 70mhz ram and its shitty 512mb gtx chip , u fail , i win , that is technical superior specs
girlsdrinkfeck 2 years ago
Lol, fuck you AscendedSaiyan3, you must be fucking gay with that user name.
What a dick, you want Goku to fuck your ass????
Kev7772210 2 years ago 2
Kev7772210, it sounds like you've been butt hurt already! LMAO! You must have a X360 and no PS3. Too bad. ;)
AscendedSaiyan3 2 years ago
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shut the fuck off you pussies! why must we constantly fight over which is better! ALL FUCKING CONSOLS ARE THE SAME AND SHOULD BE TREATED THE FUCKING SAME!!!! IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM ACCEPTING THAT THEN IT TIME TO CRAWL OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOMMA'S ASS HOLE AND JUST FUCKING ACCEPT IT GOD DAMNIT!!!
nickxanimations 2 years ago
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If you thick shit fan boys aint realised yet this video is showing off the processor/Physx of the console its self.
Now we all realise that the Xbox 360 has the better graphics atm (Check out on game stop and dont say OMW YOU GEEK PS3 is shit loadz better)
PS3 - More powerfull
Xbox 360 - Hella better graphics
neoki1 2 years ago
No it has not, 360 cant even handle Killzone 2 so yeah bye 360 fails.
GeForce47 2 years ago
the intel i7 beats this processor na it don only the i7 has faster ram stuff and it will seem faster but isnt ps3 the first 8 core processor sold in retail but why not in a pc yet lol
rysliv 2 years ago
PS3; CELL has 7 cores I think. It's used in servers and stuff. Probably not used in normal pc's because of the PPC architecture. That's my bet.
cssima 2 years ago
no it had 8 cells it even shows on the cpu die
rysliv 2 years ago
the cell processor is made to run parallel processing tasks with high floating point usage and is actually slower and less flexible when used for multitasking and general desktop usage.
GPU processors are very similar to the cell's design because they have to handle the same tasks (massive parallel processing).
That's why nVidia released the Cuda SDK to use all that GPU power for supercomputing and server needs ie. simulations, realtime rendering, etc...
chrisvolker 2 years ago
Thank you for being intelligent unlike some chrisvolker :)
Now I don't have to explain it again on another video :P
AFunyun 2 years ago
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PS3 sucks BALLS. that's exactly why fallout 3 DLC was NOT and WILL NOT be released for it, Grand theft auto IV lost and damned (a franchise that was originally 'exclusive' for the ps3) was NOT released for it, final fantasy is no longer exclusive to it, and developers such as Square Enix have specifically said that developing for the PS3 is total crap.
DrScallyBoi 2 years ago
whys it crap? it plays games like every other console i have all 3 consoles and i think ps3 kills xbox 360 and wii..
azdiz911 2 years ago
fuck off, you don't appreciate anything
Exotic47 2 years ago 2
you mean that fallout crappy dlc that is crashing on you guys 500 times a day ? and that ugly looking lost and damned grainy shit effect making liberty city look like a pile a shit ? sure i played those nothing to be proud off mate microsoft paid big bucks for 4 hour of gameplay do we care ? NO enjoy your final fantasy on 3 discs we will wait for the VS ;) now go play your glitch of war 2 and gtfo why are you even watching this ? are you getting scared :p
RROD Xbot whore
peace
M1ndz 2 years ago
First do u know why lost and damned didnt got out for PS3 because Microsoft PAID for it u dumbshit. PS3 has much better hardware and much better features and less failure rate, now that you have the facts from someone who knows what he's saying, tell me: How does PS3 suck?? Because u cant afford it?? sad
GeForce47 2 years ago
PS3=shite
mrFragaz 2 years ago
Cell chip rules!! and only on Ps3!
weedfrog 3 years ago
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PS3 owns the idiotic PC.
ArsenalGear3000 3 years ago
cant really compare.. a PC and a PS3
unfreez 3 years ago 6
Well, it does not depend on what you say.
Kev7772210 3 years ago
Well you could build a PC with the same cababilities as a PS3.. and a PC can be so much more than a PS3 can be.. so yeah you cant compare
unfreez 3 years ago 2
Whatever, PC fanboy.
Kev7772210 3 years ago
I actully own a PS3.. and its pretty neat, all im saying is that the PC could run the same games, if they just made them on bluray
unfreez 3 years ago
lol ok dumbass, first off new technology comes out every day for the pc, and you cant upgrade a PS3, the ps3 already loses compared to pc graphics these days
NOTWSProductions 2 years ago
Whatever.
ArsenalGear3000 2 years ago
actually u get firmware updates for the ps3
Rightcheous 2 years ago
For goodness sakes,why are ppl comparing consoles and pc's, yes pc's will always be more powerful, and dont forget all the other backgrounds tasks a pc has to deal wiv not just games and graphics, so they need to be powerful and loaded wiv memory. But you cant knock consoles, they dont require vast amounts of hardeware and a high budget to get a game to run at acceptible level. And at the ps3 and 360 pricepoints your getting 5-10 yrs of garanteed performance wivout breaking the bank every 18mnts
Sh4un1r1k 3 years ago 4
Like comparing a bugatti to a golf.
Interleap 3 years ago 3
haha true, glad someone agrees. exactly amd Golfs are good in their class of car. Same with ps3 it's not designed to compete wiv pc's anyways
Sh4un1r1k 3 years ago