Leon Ashby Property Rights & Farming explained pt 2

[shisto2]

I read some of the comments here and one thing is sooooo clear !!!! the critics are all talk and no action, I see heaps of these 'VEGAN TYPES" living off my hard earnt taxes in their utopian fantasy world, of how they wold do things differently, the same faces that pop up in rent a crowd type rally, mostly sit on their arses in suburbia. Rarely have I seen them get out and put their philosophies into practice and when they do it leads to disasterous flops fixed by someone else.

[GnosticNinja]

"The tax which will be paid for the purpose of education is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance"

~ Thomas Jefferson

[ech1dna]

You clearly learnt everything you know about deserts from disney cartoons.

I'm going to ignore your drivel now. Bye!

[ech1dna]

Gnostic- Your grasp of economic reality seems pretty loose. The number of man-hours needed is 'irrelevant'? Labour costs money mate, unless you are the Burmese Junta with an infinite supply of peasant slaves. industrial quantities of compost are free in the desert? Dream on!!

'Terraforming' is sci-fi.

I suggest we live within our means in deserts. Harvest desert foods- in Oz that mean acacia seeds, kangaroos. Low investment- very high return and zero loss of wildlife habitat.

[DobermansRock]

You have a lot of political work in front of you. I hope your family and lifestyle make it through. So that the rest of us can eat.

Have you looked into Monsanto? Please do before their product makes it to Austrailia. Ban it before it wreaks your crops.

[adammz08]

well done bro, with your swale system and feeding water into your subsoil,,,, dont worry about the knockers,,, they're just rednecks with chicken shit for brains,,,which is an insult to the chicken actually,,,,, swale on bro

[SweetCuppinCakes]

No, it was just an ignorant statement from a non-Australian, actually (just saying aussie aussie aussie makes one Australian?)

But I did grow up in a desert, U.A.E., and they've irrigated a good portion of that arid sand to provide at least half the produce one finds in the super markets there.

[PeekyBooo]

Thanks for the scientific approach and facts.

[SweetCuppinCakes]

Aussie Aussie Aussie !

Grow Grow Grow!

The land down under could feed and house the entire world. Let's make it happen!

[matrxmax]

The international bankers super rich want to own everything and this is how they are doing it. With their money they set tax-free foundations - they establish think tanks, animal rights groups, environmental ecological concern group and set policy to favor them. Yes you heard of them before this are the kings and queens of England, Rothchilds European banker family dynasty, and here in the U.S. the Rockfellars and many others powerful elites of the world.

[Winnuting]

Global Warming is a fraud!

[Sylvault]

Some of those named are recognised as being leaders in that field. One was the discoverer of jet streams and a leading climatologist . Perhaps if you took the patch from your eye you could check them out yourself. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[GnosticNinja]

hatch*senate*gov/public/_files­ /UNClimateScientistsSpeakOut*p df

[ech1dna]

I've just spotted an anti-vax propaganda vid on your channel. A clear indication that you wouldn't know science if it kicked you in the balls.

[GnosticNinja]

Again nothing. If you had it, would've enlightened us a bit. But no, were all still laughing at you! The comment below proves how very silly and ill informed you really are. You couldn't argue your way out of a paper bag.

Obviously you're a victim of the mushroom treatment (kept in the dark and fed shit).

Haven't got Buckley chance of making an intelligible point. They're already DOING IT dude. Give up your fantasy and do some research.

[ech1dna]

gnos- "They're already DOING IT dude." If you mean permaculturists spending on their city earnings while 'living the hippy dream' in someone elses' desert, doing piddly little feelgood projects with next to no potential for extention out to real situations in the real world, yep, they really are doing it.

Seriously, write to Leon Ashby and tell him he should be permaculturing his farm- see what answer you get.

You are just another townie tosser daydreaming about the good life.

[GnosticNinja]

You lose, had your chance to prove it wrong and blew it. An angry confused ill informed hater.

Spewing nonsense doesn't change the facts; that it is happening and there is nothing you can do to disprove it. So: ha,ha,ha,ha!!!! (at you)

Chin up ya bloody punter, move on...

[ech1dna]

You make yourself sound like really a silly prick.

Thing is, I live in a desert. I have spent time in most of the worlds other deserts. I have seen the effects of the many 'green desert' schemes over the years first hand- they cost fortunes, they destroy the land, they don't last. In your comedy video they gloss over the fact they are trying to repair soil salinity which is there as the result of the PREVIOUS latest greatest scheme to green it up. Its desert for a reason- google 'hadley cells'.

[ech1dna]

BTW- words like 'hater' are mostly used by teenage morons who are running out of vocabulary. Treat yourself to a good Thesaurus this christmas...

[Sylvault]

another good video well done

[eezyone]

I've looked at the evidence and CO2 isn't causing climate change it is 0.04% of our atmosphere and we could use more of it because it is food for plants. Did you get that 0% of the atmosphere and many of the best scientists have been putting forth scientific studies which refute your beliefs. I've looked at both sides and the real world data. Have You?

You're wrong about the politics it's not about science anymore it's about money and taxes. They're not listening to the real scientists

[ech1dna]

"many of the best scientists have been putting forth scientific studies which refute your beliefs"- great! Where are they? Post the references so we can all read them. In the past when I ask for these refs I get nothing but blogs and rubbish pop journalism. Maybe you will be different?

(ps.That small quantity/small effect principle sounds nice but its clearly daft. Would you eat a meal that contains 0.04% cyanide...)

[Rethgore]

ech1dna, It doesn't matter what sources we post, since as long as it contradicts your believes, you claim it aint legit.

[ech1dna]

But you said "many of the best scientists have been putting forth scientific studies which refute your[my] beliefs"- are you saying that you lied and these 'studies' you mention don't exist? If they do it wouldn't be too hard for you to provide me with the references. If you can't manage that we'll just have to assume you are just the latest in a long line of climate change denying frauds...

[Sylvault]

Carbon dioxide only works on a limited band of frequencies emitted as I.R. and then in competition with water vapour until they are fully absorbed . My guess is that you don't understand the science.

Vic

[ech1dna]

Did you read my post? 2 weeks ago I asked for published science references to back up these homespun ideas- you didn't supply any, no doubt because you can't.

You clearly didn't understand the cyanide analogy- I was giving you an example of why in nature the absolute quantity of a substance does not dictate its importance. Here is another: Vitamin C is probably only 0.00006% of your daily diet (c.60mg out of 1kg) but you'd die of scurvy vithout it...Getting the picture?

[Sylvault]

A little bull goes a long way. I get the picture. Why don't you Google Heinz Hug and get the true picture? He is a Scientist. Or Jack Barret. You may understand what they are telling the IPCC

They don't want to listen.

[ech1dna]

Heinz Hug I never heard of, and a search on scienceconnect for published science from him pulled up nothing but a theoretical opinion piece (in german) with no actual evidence in it.

Jack Barrett...according to a search of 22,000 academic journals, there is a "JC Barrett" listed as a co-author of a single research paper on cloud densification published 13 years ago. (ie.not climate change).

Why do you think these two geezers have anything deeply vital to add to the science of climate change?

[ech1dna]

Needless to say I found lots and lots of 2nd hand opinon from these blokes on climate change denier blogs when I google searched as you suggested, do I need to point out to you that those are not real published science.

[Sylvault]

Perhaps you have heard of Plancks constant And Weins law or Boltzmans constant. If you study the I.R emitted from our globe as illustrated by these Iscientist you will see of the reason for exposing global warming as a fraud. Even the temperature graph put out by the pro warmers shows only a rise in temp. of .8 of a degree in 150 years and half that before 1940. In 1939 I saw birds and a mob of Kangaroos die from the heat. It was hotter then than it is now.

[ech1dna]

And yet you can't provide a reference to any relevant science published by your two heroes? If they were such pivotal characters in atmospheric sciences as you imagine surely they would have published SOMETHING on the subject?...

Your roo-killin heatwave story illustrates neatly the difference between weather and climate. The UK MET office data shows all the top 10 warmest years globally have happened since 1990. Its a clear trend. Look it up if you don't believe me.

[Sylvault]

so-called "Skeptics" include Dr. Daniel Schrag of Harvard; Claude Allegre, one of the most decorated French geophysicists; Dr. Richard Lindzen, professor of Atmospheric Sciences, MIT; Dr. Patrick Michaels, University of Virginia: Dr. Fred Singer; Professor Bob Carter, geologist at James Cook University, Australia;

[ech1dna]

sylva- "...graph put out by the pro warmers..." Any graph in particular? The 2007 IPCC tech reports offer percentage likelyhood global temp increases between 0.8 and over 4 degrees by 2100. The worse predictions are being borne out by observations. eg. British Antarctic Survey has measured air temp on the antarctic peninsula rise 2.8 degrees- read about it in: Turner, J., et al. (2005), Antarctic climate change during the last 50 years, International Journal of Climatology., 25, 279-294

[Sylvault]

No graph in particular their all the same and all wrong with the exception of one they putout many years ago. Surely you are not so gullible as to believe Ipcc the group with an agenda ?

[ech1dna]

Ha- the science denial mob on the internet want to paint the IPCC as something out of the 'da vinci code'- their efforts are so lame, believable only by people who know nothing at all about it.

The IPCC is the biggest scientific endeavor ever undertaken by mankind. All its reports etc are available to read online- they are excellent: I bet they don't say half of what you have been led to believe they do by the denial bloggers.

[Sylvault]

The Ipcc----52 Scientists. All the others distanced themselves from their wild claims. I don't have to depend on such as are still loyal to the IPCC. The physics speak for themselves. Despite the fact that the majority of scientists refute man made global warming you don't need a majority to be correct . Remember Galileo?

[ech1dna]

"the majority of scientists refute man made global warming"- on what planet!?!

[Sylvault]

The planet with the people on it. The science of mathematics will show how little we can do to effect the climate. man caused CO2 is 4% CO2's share of warming 4% Australia's share of man caused CO2 .14% A total of point 000224effect on the world climate. Big deal

[Sylvault]

I used to catch Echidnas in rabbit traps years ago (unintentionaly) They dig themselves a neat round circle of soil to bury themselves in.

[ech1dna]

I found an echidna once in the middle of Alice Springs which had been hit by a road train and was still walking. Was full of smashed bones- vet said the impact would have killed any other 'normal' animal.

[Sylvault]

You havn't done much research if you have not come across the graphs put out by the pro warmers showing a sharp incline of temperature in the last ten years when it should show a .decline. Why would anyone with a sound mind believe their predictions for the future?

Have you read any of Reid Bryson's comments?

[ech1dna]

sorry- got you and eezyone mixed up.

I'm serious though- these accusations that the world's climatologists are wrong about climate change are deadly serious- if you are claiming things you can't back up just to try to 'win' the argument then you should expect ridicule. I'm just asking for references to the peer-reviewed published science- the standard way that scientific evidence is communicated- if you can't provide any we have to assume your posts are just empty opinions...

[Sylvault]

Dont describe CO2 as poison It is a colorless odorless gas. Beer and soft drink rely on COs to make it taste better. You mean the best scientists that money can buy.

Vic

[eezyone]

The greens seem to have their root philosophy grounded in marxist, atheistic ideas. Good people need to wake up and look into this. It's just something that seems to becoming more and more apparant They do not believe that humans are valuable they worship the earth not God. They do not understand climate change or climate history or climate science for that matter. Only they believe that fossel fuels and industrialization are destroying our environment. They do not understand spiritual issues.

[Brantoc]

IF push came to shove, the WORLD could produce food to feed 25-30 billion people, but we don't. Australia, the USA, Canada, and western Europe are the only areas even beginning to advance farming.

[RyuDarragh]

One question the Climate Change folks have not answered is: How much of the effects we see in the climate is *actually* due to mans activities? Another unanswered question is: What can we do about this, if anything at all?

Look at the brain dead remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" and realize that this is a common attitude.

[lgr1991]

Climate change on earth has been real for 4.6billion years, humans have been around 100,000, heavy industry has been around for 250.

[jgoemat]

And climate change in the past has been due to natural phenomenon such as orbital variations, volcanic activity and solar output. Only in the last century have we seen climate change undeniably due to human impact on the environment.

[eezyone]

Climate change in the past has been due to natural phenomena such as orbital variations, volcanic activity and solar output and still is. We can poison the land and water. We can cause urban sproul we can pollute the air and destroy habitate and cause erosion, but we do not cause global warming and CO2 is not a pollutant. We do not change the weather or cause the ice caps to melt or oceans to rise. CO2 is plant food and is only 0.04% of the atmosphere The planet's been warmer in the past...0%

[roadman73]

Very informative video, thank you for this and for all your work as well as your fellow supports of this.