Astronomy, Biology & Evolution (Part II)

[Drowzor]

A little hard for me to follow in places but interesting none the less.

[museumoftechno]

I don't really understand what you're trying to say - I think you need to unpack what you mean by the loosening of binding of consciousness, and of mind becoming more and more subtle. I've been reading books like Universe of Consciousness by Edelman and Tononi, Music of Life by Denis Noble and At Home In The Universe by Stuart Kauffman and they're all fascinating accounts of new scientific ideas about self-organisation and how it might apply to mind... worth a look!

[gunapie]

I am sorry for my way of speaking. I really can't go in to detail very much on a short video, but I am speakig of a revolutionary leap in ideas where original substance is not energy, but something more subtle.

[rickrocker]

You said a mouthful when you said "We only have this planet to look at and that's not much". I'd like to add "Only in the present". It really pisses me off that my Natural Science text book begins with the Earth being 4.5 billion years old when its all based on a guess. All of a sudden, there are a ton of facts.... all based on that guess.

[gunapie]

Sabongwon, sorry I was too (not to the point). We in science are confortable with the words "energy and matter", but the word "consciousness" is a new one in the science context. The basic point of my conversation was one of matter is bottled up energy and energy is bottled up consciousness. The flows of change in the universe is mirror differences in the degrees of the binding of consciousness (both a waxing effect and the waning effect of bio-evolution over time.

[sabongwon]

I have two things to say. (1) I wish that I could understand what you meant a little bit better. I'm an intelligent guy but your ideas are expressed through too much metaphor. (2) This time isn't that crazy and nor do we need to be so fearful. educated? Yes, but the political pendulum is swinging back and the fundamentalist, as common as they are, are exposed. I love education and that's the best part of the human condition.

[Muzaloth]

hello old fossil.. what makes you so sure mind didn't start this space/time/matter continuem you call evolution, we are as limited as time makes us.. space/time began at some point but the general conformity of matter into mind takes a quantum past time if you could somehow recognize that mind is the starting point.. I'm talking about disembodied mind of course, commonly called spirit and G-d.

[Drowzor]

Actually space/time does not _have_ to have a beginning or end :3

No proof to suggest either way is true.

[vondunkelheit]

Great, i am with you a 100%~

[beliserius]

I have no IDEA what u said! Please explain what ur theory is. Its as if u are speaking encrypted like the bible. Come on! EXPLAIN!

[gunapie]

I said: "The mind is very complex and has layers like a flower bud. The outermost is the crudest (i.e., body & brain, conscious mind, subconscious mind & three levels of super-conscious mind (the deeper intuitive layers). The vastness of the mind can not be contained in cell storage capacity of the nerves alone." but it is a deep subject for short paragraphs. Consider vivid memory, or deep inspirations of artist or scientist; this shows that it is more that nerves and nerve memory.

[Muzaloth]

nice remarks gunaple.. you're talking my language.

[klarmer]

I really love just listening to your stories, man, this is relaxing.

[gunapie]

The "quid-pro-quo idea" of inherent behavior is a subject that I have long wanted to address. Behaviorism is that dominate theory in biology to explain this, but I feel falls short to explain what is really happening. For example, consider human genius such as the composers or scientist. I feel that the mind is not at all understood. If fact, I would say that the brain is only a tool for the mind.

[GayDarthVader]

If the brain is a tool of the mind... then where is the mind?

All of my thoughts, memories, and emotions are the result of stuff going on in my brain. So my mind is physically in my brain.

[Muzaloth]

whatever is physical belongs in this 4 dimensional world.. what dimension do you think mind inhabits?

[DeadSeaPedestrians]

The subtle evolution of the mind that fascinates you, is really just exploring where we are in the 21st century, here's a strange fact, there are small fish that eat parasites off sharks (you knew that) simple symbiosis, now something stops the shark from eating the small fish after it's picked the shark clean of the parasites, now the sharks mother didn't tell him not to eat the fish, and he never read it in a book, but the quid-pro-quo ideal seems inherent, we are an extrapolation of this

[askaluck]

Namaste' for Good professor,Your speech are really outstanding and inspiration that help we understand the mysterious Nature's creation.Although you are 57 year old,but really look like 35 age.You are sunny boy of BABA's unique son！