Ken Miller couldnt destroy a mousetrap (pardon the pun lol).
I've seen Theistic evolutionist Ken Miller debunk himself numerous times and one of the video links is below......
/watch?v=oeGobRxLrN4
Miller is a joke. I prefer REAL Biologists like Dr. Jonathan Wells, Dr. Michael Denton, Dr. David Menton, Dr. Paul Nelson, Dr. Rick Oliver, Dr. Ian Macreadie, Dr. Gordon C. Mills, Dr. Ann Gauger, and Dr. Brad Harrub. All say evo-religion is nonsense.
How did the DNA code come to be? Natural Selection is a most unsatisfactory answer. If you accept it, you will also accept that it is possible to put scientists without space suits on the moon and they will be able to adapt because
fossils are not evidence of evolution. a fossil can form so long as there is death, sudden embedment in inorganic material and sudden extreme pressure. all this can only take place during natural disasters, which are unpredictable and thus don't neccessarily belong to a fixed time period.
"missing links" are frankly failed prototypes of organisms living in the past. they have not changed into but rather have "made way" for present day species which were created through unknown means
@slateflash Well, Sir, you have convinced me. All that so called evidence, those thousands of peer reviewed papers and the DNA account for nothing, when stacked against your 'prototype' hypothesis. You, Sir, deserve the Nobel Prize.
What Berlinski fails to understand is that the mathmatics he wishes to apply are not in anyway applied to anything other than speculation, or in any way testable!! They are simply requirements he has pulled out of his arse to conjure up some problem which is based on his own personal inability to understand!
Who the hell can apply mathmatics to his own ignorance?? Berlinski thinks he can!
".....wishes to apply are not in anyway applied to anything other than speculation, or in any way testable!! They are simply requirements he has pulled out of his arse to conjure up some problem which is based on his own personal inability to understand!"
:: You could just as easily have been talking about Dawkins or any of the many other "scientists" who believe in evolution with absolutely no proof or testable theories. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Part 2: So simply pointing out gaps in fossil records does NOT disprove the theory. Secondly, as time passes the fossils records are slowly but surely pilling in. And every single time, the adjoining evidence supports the existing theory. Lets say if you present a transitional fossil to a biologist, He can predict the age of the fossil comparing to transitional forms adjacent to the fossil in question. And this trend has always been true. The evidence for evolution is OVERWHELMING!
@TejasM14 Ummm No, the interpretation of the evidence using a preconceived darwinistic view is overwhelming, but thats just ones man opnion, not science based.
And dating methods have been proven to be quite un accurate to say the least.
Plus the Fossil recod is incomplete and shows nothing that modern evolutionists and even Darwin himself said should be there,
Darwin even wrote about the serious lack of any fossils in the record, that means Darwinism contradicts science.
@85Aheadstix Darwinsm doesn't explain the presence of evolution, it best explains the mechanism. The occurance of evolution is proved by many other factors as I previously mentioned. The fossil record is incomplete, not absent. But for many species, the variations are small enough to prove truth in evolution. You say dating methods are flawed. Berlinski would himself laugh at such an assumption. Carbon dating is accurate enough for the scientific world. What are your concerns against it?
@85Aheadstix Also, darwin based his concept many decades back. All scientific evidence is in concurrance with his theory. If not, the explanation of the mechanism evolution would have been discarded. Since his record, there have been in-numerous records collected, all of which are in resonance with his theory.
Part 1: I would like to raise multiple points about this video. David's arguments are flawed. Material objects are not manipulable. So it is succinct to assume that life adapts to condition not the other way round. Secondly, he has no arguments in favor of intelligent design. Now coming to evolution, it is a theory backed by NUMEROUS proofs some of which are common universal genetic code, fossil records, Genetic commonalities, traits and behavior, and finally observable adaptations.
There are no known records of David Berlinski's own contribution to the development of mathematics or of any other science. Effectively he is a crank.. "Berlinski uses doubt as a weapon against the academy—he's more concerned with what we don't know than what we do" Slate Magazine.. So Berlinski has doubts... so what?
@daNDayati This is from a college textbook: "Biologists have gathered a tremendous amount of evidence in support of biological evolution, however, and not one major piece of evidence has ever been obtained that suggests it has not occurred." This logic, that evolution is a fact because it can't be disproved, is unscientific & absurd. The universe reeks of design. It could be argued that ,if Darwin were alive today and looked through a microscope he would admit his entire theory is false.
@EGrifenhagen Theories gain strength in additional evidence that reinforces the hypothesis. Further.. whenever a theory successfully predicts phenomena that makes it harder to refute. Evolution is such a theory, but so is germ theory and atomic theory.. saying there is a design answers nothing, predicts nothing, is not applicable.. If Darwin were alive today he would be very old.
@daNDayati Your comments about theories are absolutely true and are right on point. The problem with evolution is that the additional evidence(you speak of) available since Darwin penned his book refutes his hypothesis.
Yes, he would be very old unless he evolved into a bird.
@EGrifenhagen not so sure about that.. could you point me in the direction of the evidence that refutes Darwin's hypothesis? and individuals don't evolve (if they are lucky they mature and die) .. species evolve.. (being clear about this) evolution produces new species through splitting ancestral populations of organisms into new groups that cannot or will not interbreed..
@MetalBru01 but it is atheist who defend evolution the most, This is one of the great arguments against god creating men. Even though if evolution is true it would not in any way affect theists . Agnostics? they dont care since they are looking for truth.
@KingDcome11 How does evolution disprove the existance of a god? It only proves that the book of genisis is not a literal account of how the world came about. Even the early church fathers acknowledged this.
@EGrifenhagen I'm reffering to Augustine of Hippo, his writings were very influential in the development of Western Christianity. and he said about genesis "In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.".
@MetalBru01 As best as I can remember...Augustine believed that God created everything instantly and that the six days of creation were more of a timeline of the order in which He did it. I am going to research this and make sure my statements are accurate. However, he definitely did not state that the creation account was allegorical.
@MetalBru01 what I mean is that agnostics are only hoping to know the truth and it would not affect them whether evolution is real or not..why? because you want to know the truth right? So either way it won't affect your thinking in any way. You would still be agnostic whether evolution is true or not
@haleygoeswhoohoo I'm sorry I did not meant to come off as arrogant. Maybe I was misunderstood. What I meant was , Evolution won't change your mind on whether there is a God or not. It sure will help you have a better perspective on your views but at the end you will end up Staying on your ground. Why? because both religious people ( most of them ) and atheists accept evolution.
I have a serious question for this know it all. How come Africans look like gorillas? I see a picture of Cain or any other negro and they look exactly like black gorillas. Now, let's look at the flips and the Peruvians who not only look like apes (see their faces, bone structure, color, teeth) but to date they keep their primitive ways. Did they evolve from the apes? Where did they come from? Serious answers only, I will ignore the rest.
Lots and lots of people are skeptical, lots and lots of scientists are in contention, lots and lots of data is inadequate, lots and lots of unknowns about matter, lots and lots of computer simulations are faulty, no one knows anything...
Charles Manson didn't kill anyone. He, as the hobo boss of a hippie commune, allegedly ordered free, adult citizens to commit murder. He was not present during the commission of these crimes. Peter Kürten (26 May 1883 to 2 July 1931), on the other hand, was a genuine menace.
What could be more ancient than evolutionary conjecture's Sumerian gospel ("...an arcanum of prosodic theory which is the province of specialists..." — P.F. Baum) with its interrelated specialisms: Big Bang, primordial ooze, vicinism & subsequent congeneric sway, archallaxis, unicellular life's speciational advancements through a positive and naturalistic eugenism, transitional relics and whatnot?
For the truth about religion & top Bible scholarship try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life '. Also Dan Barker, Valerie Tarico, John W. Loftus, Victor J. Stenger. For humanity's shared moral core & belief in Matt 7v12 The Golden Rule try wisdomcommons. Also try comparative religion- read the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani & the Koran & Book of Mormon on skepticsannotatedbible. No one would give credence to such writings except for peer pressure & threats of death & hell. See. RichardDawkinsnet
i will allways be a psychopath till the day i die...and need to let go of things that dont directly impact my life...so thank you for the conversation....it opened my eyes to a new level of thought (which by the way should of been with many others) but ill give you the credit in this situation...i dont see a point anymore in bothering with peoples personal beliefs...doesnt effect my life, i shouldnt care....thank you for that and again im sorry
Strong and virtuous people take a personal stand(like your jesus) and take the hit like a man...you dont need a religion or a belief, it's bullshit(if i were god i wouldnt desire worship, just creation, is enough to boost my ego, can care less what they do.(hint*)seems to be the case).take the hit like a moral person!.blaming others or allowing another ..or even BELEIF that another has given you a way to forgiveness is total crap! it just goes to show how PATHETIC such a person is to accept that
It is funny how only fanatics try to disprove the Evolution Theory. More than 90% of the scientific community accepts evolution, but of course, it have flaws. And the bible? Contradictory, unlogic, misogynic, homophobic...
4,000 mothers have their babies murdered in America each day. I hate domestic violence and foreign violence too, a lot! I hate everyone and everybody that is to say all people everywhere all the time including Christmas. [Aimée Eccles protects us from enslavement as she stands betwixt mayhem & madness. Take not crap from the manufacturers of Midol as they owe us menstruated restraints. Praise Aimée Eccles!] If there's a village called Hawaii in Kenya then Barry Soetoro's fantasy has merit.
wtf......a person this old should not be this stupid :/ pretty sad we live in an age where information is easy to get...i refuse to believe this guy is anything more than a troll
@BugsMr123 WHAT?!?! are you joking?...first of all, Investigation is the best way to Truth...if something has no credibility..(via NO FUCKING EVIDENCE) then Dont assert it unless you can prove it....science does not have all the answers we insignificant humans will NEVER know it all EVER...the best we can do is to discover new things for future generations, as for a god, that is not EVEN on the TABLE it is a fantasy and has been a MAJOR DETRIMENTto advancement, that we today now have to correct
@MadMAn12gauge Not joking. What are YOUR reasons for accepting evolution as a truth? How well do you know the fossil record? I suspect that the difficulties exist. The proof isn't exactly like mathematics, is it? It's more like persuasion, and that life could have developed this way ... but it doesn't eliminate other possibilities.
When people respond to a serious critique with an insult, it usually means that their own faith has been questioned ... and evolution is a matter of faith too.
@BugsMr123 first of all evolution has nothing to do with whether there is a god....all it proves is that the Creation myths that have been put foreward have beenproven inaccurate...as for the fossils, layers of sediment and bedrock are where a sequence of fossils are found...it is why we have never had a modern human in the same layer of dinosaurs lol or a modern rabbit where it shouldnt be....if we found fossil today that is out of sequence where it shouldnt be...that would throw away evolution
@MadMAn12gauge But evolution does refute Genesis, and as far as the trivially minded are concerned, that disposes of the problems that religion relates to. It could be we are just replacing one Creation myth with another, but that is not how evolution has ever been dealt with. It's always been taken (by some) to be a refutation of God.
What I meant about the fossil record is, when you get down to close details, it often doesn't fit as well as it should. Do you think B's comments ... (cont'd)
@MadMAn12gauge on all the changes a land animal would have to make to become a whale are irrelevant? I think it's an excellent point. Same with the eye. How does an animal 'evolve' any organ that is new? How does an forepaw become a wing, except by centuries of the species being an existential danger, because it's even useless as a forepaw for generations before that species can fly.
I am no expert, but these strike me as worthwhile questions that evolutionists duck, because of their faith.
@BugsMr123 and evolution does not require faith...it has overwhelming PEER REVIEWED evidence that constantly backs it up...there is no faith required with something baced on fact....Like i dont need faith that austraillia exists..i can test and varify the claim...just like evolution, you can test and varify it with repeatable results.. i have a respect for evidence, no reason to believe in a god, that has never been demonstrated as true,thus it is not EVEN on the table for discussion.
@MadMAn12gauge Show me how you can verify that evolutionary changes, and nothing else, accounts for life on earth. I say most people believe evolution on faith, not science, and they do so to keep from believing in God. I don't say that because I am religious -- I just think it's a fact.
I don't deny evolution can explain some stuff, but not it all. And that is a problem -- for science as much as for religion.
@MadMAn12gauge Was your comment that "evolution does not require faith" serious. If it was, how do you explain the explosion of life in the fossil record...or that mutations are always negative...or that the missing link is still missing...or that while the bird was "evolving" wings and couldnt fly he would have been eaten by the cat...or....
@EGrifenhagen You seem to be badly informed on the theory of evolution.
By the explosion of life in the fossil record I'm assuming you are referring to the cambrian explosion which took place over a period of 20 million years, hardly sudden.Mutations are not always negative, most are totally benign. some detrimental but some are advantageous. There's plenty of missing links just look in the literature and the birds are just another species of dinosaur.
@EGrifenhagen Spot on!, but these are the things that evolutionists ignore.
Random mutation does not happen, Genes do not mutate indefinetly, they have a limit.
The fossil record shows no gradual change at all, instead it just shows fully formed creatures, so where is this evidence that all life evolved????, its complete assumption.
Darwisim is nothing more than a false religion.
Haha, and i love your brird evolving wings analogy, very good! XD
@BugsMr123 Google TALKORIGINS... that site will educate you on anything you want to know about evolution and give you sourses for backing up each of the claims so that YOU can personally varify it if you really wanted to, and are done sticking your fingers in your ears shutting your eyes and saying LALALALALALALALA(like buying a plane ticket to austraillia heh)
@MadMAn12gauge Went there ... I can't really see how 'evolution' is 'testable' as a theory. Can you prove that all of life goes back to one common geneological ancestor, a bit of pond-scum that formed billions of years ago? The logic of evolution is -- look, this bit of the fossil record 'fits' the prediction ... so the rest must, as well -- we just don't know how, yet.
If it fits, why are contemporary geneticists looking for the 'altruism' gene if the story is complete, and sewn up?
@BugsMr123 look just go to TALKORIGINS....i dont have like a lot of room to explain K-12 science in detail, thats your fault for not paying attention in school...just go look it up like any normal person does...
@MadMAn12gauge Yeah, well if you think you can persuade people with this display of arrogance and insult, good luck. I know a lot about science, enough to understand what Berlinski is talking about, and you should absorb that. I have looked it up, and I hate to tell you this, but sometimes the illustrations in those Biology 101 text books are altered.
Why do they need an 'altruism gene' by the way? Hmmmmm?
@BugsMr123 i dont get people like you....why do you even need a higher power or a slaver? its bullshit....the fact that you believe in a god at all, turns you into a peice of shit...we both know that we have both done many wrongs in life....nothing will ever change that, it is our nature...belief in a god is usless...appealing to your own mind however is very good...which is what you allready do, but yet you dont take credit for it, and give it to a "dungeons and dragons" fantasy?!?!?!
@BugsMr123 not really...but yes...however i wouldnt troll if u actually have confirmed evidence...just because you are scared of death and are a pussy to live up to your adult responsibility of tanking your rights and wrongs...
yes i laugh at cowards like you....it doesnt matter if there is a god or not...no evidence anyhow, and i would oppose a god that let things ride the way it has, perhaps attempt to cut its head off if i could.. history shows god is useless...
@MadMAn12gauge You want confirmed evidence that a theory isn't true? Isn't that a big like asking for disproof of a speculative scheme?
Who says I need a 'higher power'? I can almost hear the 'dueling banjos' in the background, as you list your biases. To me, 'evolution' and the 'God hypothesis' are on a par, as explanations.
It's possible to see logical flaws in evolution without praying in a tent. Broaden your mind, and accept that there are probably lots of things we'll never know.
@BugsMr123 there is some substance i can learn from u..i dont deny that, and to be VERY HONEST it is not my intent to pull people away from their beliefs or to make fun.i do it because i can...but when i talk with a person that is actually decient...there is my error for being a jerk, i am not affraid to admit when im wrong and i will own up to that.u win the conversation, i need to rethink, or not give a shit about other peoples beliefs, has no impact on my life anyhow what other people believe
@BugsMr123 well ok man i appologise...after seeing what has been said i have done a wrong to you...and that is something i personally need to answer for, i do get a bit hot headed....and yeah i appologise um, my behavior in this converstaion has been very childish....perhaps i should not have preconceptions of theists...i actually can tell you are a good person, and do not deserve the things i said to you...so im sorry man, ill let it be
Pay no attention to "Da...uh Evolution Dunnit Durrr"
He has no understanding of science, the numerous FLAWS in evolution (all theories have flaws, especially evolution), and how many numerous scientists firmly reject the RELIGION of evolution.
Its a pity how indoctrinated some of today's children (like him) are with darwinist propaganda and non-science.
@evoTARDSareINSANE If evolution has numerous flaws then why does everyone think its the only plausible reason we exist. Why try so hard to defend something incomplete and inaccurate.
I've caught Da-Flugtard misunderstanding the following.....
Living Fossils, The Origin of Bats, the Mutation Paradox, the fossil record and the extraordinarily long list of scientists that do not believe in evolution.
He also can differentiate from micro and macro evolution. Microevolution is a deceptive term because in reality its just variation in species (NOT evolution).
Paranoid evotards often think all anti-evo accounts belong to the same person LOL.
That shows how mentally unstable they truly are. Guess that's what happens when one believes in non-existent ape-men and magical dna-defying mutations.
He does know you're a creationist and I am not right? Last time I checked......directed panspermia and alien engineering werent supported by creationists lol. One doesnt have to be a creationist to NOT believe in the nonsensical garbage that is evolution.
The kid needs to focus more on getting an actual education then trying to prove the MYTH of evolution. He appears to be a tad on the paranoid side. I often find ev-LIE-utionists suffer from a gauntlet of mental disorders.
I disagree about the alien seeding/intervention but that theory is more plausible then evolutionism.
anything is more plausible then Darwinian evolution, its total pseudoscience
even automated gene progression/dna metamorphosis (non darwinian evolution/intelligent gene transformation) makes more sense, but I dont agree with that theory either. That's Dr. Rhawn Joseph's theory.
Oh its more than pseudoscience, its a CULT. The cult of the non-existent ape-man.
Pure idiocy and a disgrace to real scientists like myself. There is more evidence for fictional fairies and unicorns then there is for macroevolution and abiogenesis. Its pure sci-fi CRAP.
"dogs ... no matter how far we look back there dogs" ??? incorrect ... dogs evolved from wolves .. and there is a mountain of evidence to back that up .... i call quack on this guy .
Ignoring the fact that he couldn't provide one rational flaw against evolution, and that he idiotically claimed that evolution explains the origin of life -_- ... What alternative theory have you provided Dr.?
Could you explain what part of this video series and basic logic you dont understand?????
Do you see any radical "macroevolutionary" change occurring in nature??? Because if so, then you need to alert your local biologists in your area because I'm sure they'd love to study those NEVER BEFORE SEEN mutations that can cause such magic.
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Claiming that species that exist today somehow magically came from a more primitive ancestor without showing proof for that claim is voodoo science."
Do scientists actually claim this? IE. Use the term 'magic'?
Even Darwin admitted himself that the Cambrian Explosion punched a huge hole in his theory and that is listed on the Cambrian Explosion Wikipedia page.
That's why Neo-Darwinists invented "punctuated equilibrium" you clueless TWIT.
Here are some scientists with PHD degrees (most are in biology) that say evolution is BULLSHIT.....
Dr. Jonathan Wells, Dr. Paul Nelson, Dr John Sanford, Dr. Michael Behe, Dr. John Morris, Dr. David Berlinski, and Dr. Stephen Meyer (all these men have videos on here)
Also, the left hand column of my channel lists the numerous problems with evolution. So do my channel links and videos.
The reason many scientists reluctantly "agree" on evolution is because they are pressured into it by academic institutions since they get their funding from government grants.
You have got to be the MOST ignorant individual on all of Youtube.
Lucky for everyone I am here to expose you 4FunPlyain. haha
Er, I might have heard of it. Is it the one where you get called an ev-LIE-utionist if you don't agree with the theory of intelligent design? Proponents of Project Bullshit going around saying evolution is BULLSHIT, then not explaining why in sufficient detail?
Here is a LIST of some of the PHD level scientists that have videos on Youtube that say macroevolution is total BULLSHIT.........Dr. Jonathan Wells, Dr. Paul Nelson, Dr. John Sanford, Dr. Michael Behe, Dr. David Berlinski, Dr. John Morris, Dr. Rick Oliver, and Dr. Stephen Meyer.
MOST of those scientists ^ have degrees in the field of Biology.
@evoTARDSareINSANE "MOST of those scientists ^ have degrees in the field of Biology."
Buffboynick claims to have a degree in molecular biology, and he claims to have a degree in physics as well. Yet he thinks that gravity is produced only in stars. Saying these people have degrees in biological fields doesn't add weight to their arguments, retard.
@evoTARDSareINSANE "The TRUTH is that if this supposed "shared ancestor" had actually existed.....its fossils would have been MORE ABUNDANT and EASIER to find then the supposed "sub species" that diverged in lineage from it, as well as fossils that are MILLIONS to BILLIONS of years older."
This is off your channel, could you explain why is this so. If not, can you supply me with a website that does?
@evoTARDSareINSANE I did read what you have written, retard. You are the one who can't understand english. It's convenient that you don't want to reveal your location, it could be argued that you lose some of your credibility.
You can tell me though, I won't tell anyone else, I promise.
I don't see any danger in telling me what you are a professor of.
@evoTARDSareINSANE "The TRUTH is that if this supposed "shared ancestor" had actually existed.....its fossils would have been MORE ABUNDANT and EASIER to find then the supposed "sub species" that diverged in lineage from it, as well as fossils that are MILLIONS to BILLIONS of years older."
This is off your channel, could you explain why is this so. If not, can you supply me with a website that does?
I'm asking again, because you tend to avoid difficult questions regarding your own words.
@lethalsub yeah I wouldn't bother with that kid, "evotardsareinsane".. he's a preacher. I've spent the last couple days disproving him and his friend (theyre both ignorant misinformed trolls)..
Ha, and he claims to be a scientists XD He's not, here's our convo, it's quite funny actually how much he lies: /watch?v=HRX-NlNtI9k
@evoTARDSareINSANE Yeah I'd really like to know where you get your credentials. We all know the real reason why you wont reveal where you teach. You aren't a professor, you're a liar.
@evoTARDSareINSANE Lol and it's very funny that you occasionally use your alternate account for back up in your losing arguments. XD
And when you run out of rebuttles you refer to your irrelevant list of the supposed 0.01% of scientists that actually know as little as you do on the subject.
You are attempting to fool very rational and educated people. We aren't going to buy your bullshit the same way your blind creationist and theist friends do. I'd stop wasting time if I were you :).
Evolution is a pathetic lie. Atheists mission to deny the existence of God has reached a level of such big bs, even they don't know what the heck their talking about most the time. And when respected man in the field of biology, science... etc. speak out against the evolution illusion, they are attacked and insulted by morons.
the indoctrination of the darwinian evolution (Darwin was a minister and NOT a scientist btw) is so strict, that people close their eyes on any contradiction. There is NO proof of gradual transformation through 500 million old fossils discovered that proves Humans transformed from earlier apes. They first had the creation and when opportunity came, darwinian evolution got put forth and sheep followed it like it always does.
This man is not speaking the truth, nor is he logically or intellectually consistent, nor does he have any of the basic understanding of the sciences he refereces. If you believe this fraud, you are in serious need of a better education and more awareness of fact. He should be ashamed for what he is saying, but I doubt an ego like his knows what shame is.
@GeeHadForDummies - Insulting me is not a solution to the question of this man's ability to tell the truth or not. The fact is that the evolutionary process (in combination with the immediate reality of biology, genetics, embryology, the fossil record, and so on) is grossly and intentionally misrepresented by this guy. His allagorical allusions are just wrong and the natural sciences just do not work the way he claims. I bark as I do becasue those seeking truth should know the facts, not a lie..
The idea of evolution has been around since the ancient Greeks, and descent with modification is a perfectly reasonable theory. But ... Darwin's proposed mechanism--natural selection working on random variation--stands the test of neither logic nor scientific observation. The destruction of the unfit, which is all NS accomplishes, does not explain the origin of the fit. The fossil record, as Berlinski mentions, does not fit a Darwinian template. Cf. paleontologists like Otto Schindewolf.
I am a well qualified scientist and find it deplorable that scientific leaders who goes against the main stream are so shunned. Truth does not need a vote or majority. As a scientist (religion aside) I find Darwinism to be on the same level as alchemy with the exception of time frame (chemical reactions takes seconds, evolution ions to prove or disprove).
What a dumbass, mathematician and not a biologist. And he lies when he says that there are a lot of "skeptics" in the scientific world about the theory of evolution. No sane scientist dobts the theory of evolution, simply cause it's a proven fact all over and over and over again.
Oh man.. I bet simpletons eat this shit up with a spoon.. I'm sorry Mr. Berlinski but are you aware of some Scientific Theory that is not in some respect "flawed" or leaves no "unanswered questions"?
Berlinski is speaking a lot but saying nothing. Creationist love to lie because the layperson doesn't know the difference. He says most scientists don't believe in evolution but a majority of scientists do accept the evidence for evolution. Creationists, don't just believe what you're told on youtube, go and read a book on evolution by a Evolutionary Biologist and you will see that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Creationist never give evidence for creation because there is none.
"Berlinski's writings are not scientific, but popular, and Berlinski has no known record of his own contribution to the development of mathematics or of any other science." Mark Perakh, prof. of Mathematics at California State University
"his approach consists of constructing strawmen, then knocking them down with misinterpreted, faulty, or nonexistent data as well as carefully selected quotations from evolutionary scientists" E. Scott, exec director of the National Center for Science Education
Wrong. The computer simulations are actually instances of evolution by Darwinian natural selection. The rules are coded, a starting point is created, and the process is allowed to run. There is no goal aside from reproduction into the next generation and the results are that new and novel traits do evolve which are responsive to the pressures of the environment.
@kshackleton Just as long as "God" is your starting point. Are you arguing for or against a creator?! You said, "The rules are CODED, a starting point is CREATED..." Hello! Notice anything about those statements.
Those who wish to live as flesh, then live and die like flesh with the earth. Those who wish to live as Spirit, may live as such to their own accords, this is the right of choice within man.
I was wrong in my previous statement. Any assumptionthat this man has any integrity is misguided. He is a liar and a fraud. Flat out. He is not telling the truth, period.
What a load of crap. This man is an intellectual fraud. Worse, look at his supposed record of teaching nearly everything there is to teach. NO academic works like that. His thinking is muddled, his facts are wrong, his understanding of the evoiutionary process is nearly a vacuum, and all his "argument" is based on his personal contacts.
@Tripockets your arguement is that 1 guy with a PHD argueing against evolution is proof that its wrong? oh so the fact that THOUSANDS (even more than that) of other scientists with PHD's support evolution? "accepting evolution on faith" or maybe you're accepting this mans arguements on faith? you really have no clue what you're even talking about do you? u just like to type on a keyboard against a topic u don't understand to feel good huh?
This guy is a joke. He moves the goal post around so much Evolution could never be explain anything to him. A good example of real time evolution is drug resistant bacteria but he moves the goal post with this saying they are still 'just' bacteria. People used to think the sun went around the earth. Wake up tomorrow you'll see the sun rise in the east and set it the west. You'll see it move across the sky. How much more proof do you need? Thus the sun goes around the earth! Science is wrong!
This Guy got destroyed by Ken Miller in a dabate some time ago...
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Ken Miller couldnt destroy a mousetrap (pardon the pun lol).
I've seen Theistic evolutionist Ken Miller debunk himself numerous times and one of the video links is below......
/watch?v=oeGobRxLrN4
Miller is a joke. I prefer REAL Biologists like Dr. Jonathan Wells, Dr. Michael Denton, Dr. David Menton, Dr. Paul Nelson, Dr. Rick Oliver, Dr. Ian Macreadie, Dr. Gordon C. Mills, Dr. Ann Gauger, and Dr. Brad Harrub. All say evo-religion is nonsense.
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solidussnakess 1 week ago
How did the DNA code come to be? Natural Selection is a most unsatisfactory answer. If you accept it, you will also accept that it is possible to put scientists without space suits on the moon and they will be able to adapt because
THAT'S EVOLUTION.
SDS4BO 2 weeks ago
Richard Dawkins disliked this 112 times. Or just a bunch of idiots.
irhjma30000 2 weeks ago
I imagine the feeling I feel listening to him is exactly the same as slowly boring a hole in my head with a hand powered drill.
mikaelfodor 3 weeks ago
fossils are not evidence of evolution. a fossil can form so long as there is death, sudden embedment in inorganic material and sudden extreme pressure. all this can only take place during natural disasters, which are unpredictable and thus don't neccessarily belong to a fixed time period.
"missing links" are frankly failed prototypes of organisms living in the past. they have not changed into but rather have "made way" for present day species which were created through unknown means
slateflash 4 weeks ago
@slateflash Well, Sir, you have convinced me. All that so called evidence, those thousands of peer reviewed papers and the DNA account for nothing, when stacked against your 'prototype' hypothesis. You, Sir, deserve the Nobel Prize.
arseymcpherson 3 weeks ago
what a tool. @ 4:25 He thinks evolution claims to explain the orgin of life? He completely fails to understand what evolution even is.
If he was so confident he coulda showed up at the Dover trial and put his money where his mouth is.
/watch?v=x2xyrel-2vI
/watch?v=AK0CYZvaJLw
Here are a couple series about evolution:
/watch?v=KnJX68ELbAY
/watch?v=tysZObbs4Yo
next...
l337pwnage 4 weeks ago
What Berlinski fails to understand is that the mathmatics he wishes to apply are not in anyway applied to anything other than speculation, or in any way testable!! They are simply requirements he has pulled out of his arse to conjure up some problem which is based on his own personal inability to understand!
Who the hell can apply mathmatics to his own ignorance?? Berlinski thinks he can!
Tobytrim 1 month ago
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@Tobytrim
".....wishes to apply are not in anyway applied to anything other than speculation, or in any way testable!! They are simply requirements he has pulled out of his arse to conjure up some problem which is based on his own personal inability to understand!"
:: You could just as easily have been talking about Dawkins or any of the many other "scientists" who believe in evolution with absolutely no proof or testable theories. The hypocrisy is astounding.
JoKerr2517 2 weeks ago
where do the laws of physics come from?
unomnacajit111 1 month ago
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@unomnacajit111 where do the laws of physics come from? God made them and everthing evolved using those laws.
gregrutz 1 month ago
@unomnacajit111
Nobody knows......do you? Did they even have the beginning?
AceofDlamonds 1 month ago
Part 2: So simply pointing out gaps in fossil records does NOT disprove the theory. Secondly, as time passes the fossils records are slowly but surely pilling in. And every single time, the adjoining evidence supports the existing theory. Lets say if you present a transitional fossil to a biologist, He can predict the age of the fossil comparing to transitional forms adjacent to the fossil in question. And this trend has always been true. The evidence for evolution is OVERWHELMING!
TejasM14 1 month ago
@TejasM14 Ummm No, the interpretation of the evidence using a preconceived darwinistic view is overwhelming, but thats just ones man opnion, not science based.
And dating methods have been proven to be quite un accurate to say the least.
Plus the Fossil recod is incomplete and shows nothing that modern evolutionists and even Darwin himself said should be there,
Darwin even wrote about the serious lack of any fossils in the record, that means Darwinism contradicts science.
85Aheadstix 1 month ago
@85Aheadstix Darwinsm doesn't explain the presence of evolution, it best explains the mechanism. The occurance of evolution is proved by many other factors as I previously mentioned. The fossil record is incomplete, not absent. But for many species, the variations are small enough to prove truth in evolution. You say dating methods are flawed. Berlinski would himself laugh at such an assumption. Carbon dating is accurate enough for the scientific world. What are your concerns against it?
TejasM14 1 month ago
@85Aheadstix Also, darwin based his concept many decades back. All scientific evidence is in concurrance with his theory. If not, the explanation of the mechanism evolution would have been discarded. Since his record, there have been in-numerous records collected, all of which are in resonance with his theory.
TejasM14 1 month ago
@85Aheadstix They found the missing links: Epidexipteryx hui, Protoavis, Protarchaeopteryx, Archeopteryx, Avimimus, Sinosauropteryx, Caudipteryx, Rahonavis, Shuvuuia, Sinornithosaurus, Beipiasaurus, Microraptor, Nomingia, Tiktaalik, Epidendrosaurus, Cryptovolans, Scansoriopteryx, Yixianosaurus, Dilong, Pedopenna, Jinfengopteryx, Sinocalliopteryx, Sinornis, Ambiortus, Hesperornis, Ichthyornis
gregrutz 1 month ago
@TejasM14 So is the evidence for a superior mind which could have possibly created the universe.
BlongBlarble 1 month ago
Part 1: I would like to raise multiple points about this video. David's arguments are flawed. Material objects are not manipulable. So it is succinct to assume that life adapts to condition not the other way round. Secondly, he has no arguments in favor of intelligent design. Now coming to evolution, it is a theory backed by NUMEROUS proofs some of which are common universal genetic code, fossil records, Genetic commonalities, traits and behavior, and finally observable adaptations.
TejasM14 1 month ago
Dr David Berlinski's argument is simply fantastic.
spidathiania 2 months ago
@spidathiania Too bad he has no answers. But he is not a scientist anyway. His BS is brought to you by the Discovery Institure.
gregrutz 1 month ago
@gregrutz What???, can you read??, he obtained his PH.d from Princeton.
Dumbarse.
85Aheadstix 1 month ago
@85Aheadstix Yes he has a degree in Philosophy, but he has never worked as a scientist. He does not even understand evolution.
gregrutz 1 month ago
@gregrutz And neither do you.
BlongBlarble 1 month ago
There are no known records of David Berlinski's own contribution to the development of mathematics or of any other science. Effectively he is a crank.. "Berlinski uses doubt as a weapon against the academy—he's more concerned with what we don't know than what we do" Slate Magazine.. So Berlinski has doubts... so what?
daNDayati 2 months ago
@daNDayati This is from a college textbook: "Biologists have gathered a tremendous amount of evidence in support of biological evolution, however, and not one major piece of evidence has ever been obtained that suggests it has not occurred." This logic, that evolution is a fact because it can't be disproved, is unscientific & absurd. The universe reeks of design. It could be argued that ,if Darwin were alive today and looked through a microscope he would admit his entire theory is false.
EGrifenhagen 2 months ago
@EGrifenhagen Theories gain strength in additional evidence that reinforces the hypothesis. Further.. whenever a theory successfully predicts phenomena that makes it harder to refute. Evolution is such a theory, but so is germ theory and atomic theory.. saying there is a design answers nothing, predicts nothing, is not applicable.. If Darwin were alive today he would be very old.
daNDayati 2 months ago
@daNDayati Your comments about theories are absolutely true and are right on point. The problem with evolution is that the additional evidence(you speak of) available since Darwin penned his book refutes his hypothesis.
Yes, he would be very old unless he evolved into a bird.
EGrifenhagen 2 months ago
@EGrifenhagen not so sure about that.. could you point me in the direction of the evidence that refutes Darwin's hypothesis? and individuals don't evolve (if they are lucky they mature and die) .. species evolve.. (being clear about this) evolution produces new species through splitting ancestral populations of organisms into new groups that cannot or will not interbreed..
daNDayati 2 months ago
101 atheists did not like this
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 It's not just athiests that are evolutionists you know.
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 but it is atheist who defend evolution the most, This is one of the great arguments against god creating men. Even though if evolution is true it would not in any way affect theists . Agnostics? they dont care since they are looking for truth.
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 How does evolution disprove the existance of a god? It only proves that the book of genisis is not a literal account of how the world came about. Even the early church fathers acknowledged this.
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 What possible church fathers are you referring to? and what in the world do you think they said?
EGrifenhagen 2 months ago
@EGrifenhagen I'm reffering to Augustine of Hippo, his writings were very influential in the development of Western Christianity. and he said about genesis "In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.".
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 As best as I can remember...Augustine believed that God created everything instantly and that the six days of creation were more of a timeline of the order in which He did it. I am going to research this and make sure my statements are accurate. However, he definitely did not state that the creation account was allegorical.
EGrifenhagen 2 months ago
@EGrifenhagen I heard there were six gods and they wanted just one so it took 6 days to do the 6 jobs with one god.
Why would an all powerful god take any time at all?
gregrutz 1 month ago
@KingDcome11 And what do you mean agnostics don't care? I'm agnostic and I care.
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 what I mean is that agnostics are only hoping to know the truth and it would not affect them whether evolution is real or not..why? because you want to know the truth right? So either way it won't affect your thinking in any way. You would still be agnostic whether evolution is true or not
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 um im an agnostic and I CARE A LOT since I AM looking for truth. it is arrogant to say they don't care. and i accept evolution btw
haleygoeswhoohoo 2 months ago
@haleygoeswhoohoo I'm sorry I did not meant to come off as arrogant. Maybe I was misunderstood. What I meant was , Evolution won't change your mind on whether there is a God or not. It sure will help you have a better perspective on your views but at the end you will end up Staying on your ground. Why? because both religious people ( most of them ) and atheists accept evolution.
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 102.. and a lot of scientists that know that Berlinski is a crank
daNDayati 2 months ago
I have a serious question for this know it all. How come Africans look like gorillas? I see a picture of Cain or any other negro and they look exactly like black gorillas. Now, let's look at the flips and the Peruvians who not only look like apes (see their faces, bone structure, color, teeth) but to date they keep their primitive ways. Did they evolve from the apes? Where did they come from? Serious answers only, I will ignore the rest.
theintelligent1973 2 months ago
So narrow minded. All of you, believing in fairy tales.
ChillOnlyKetchup 2 months ago
Lots and lots of people are skeptical, lots and lots of scientists are in contention, lots and lots of data is inadequate, lots and lots of unknowns about matter, lots and lots of computer simulations are faulty, no one knows anything...
QED: the theory of the electron is wrong.
Do you people really fall for this crap?
VvDOPAMEANvV 2 months ago
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CelestialEmbodiment 3 months ago
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Berlinski is the biggest douche bag that the Discovery Institute pays......
odinata 3 months ago
This guy is so smug though.
MrAkleonard 3 months ago
@MrAkleonard and Dawkins isn't? and I don't see how this guy is so smug.
irhjma30000 2 weeks ago
@irhjma30000 yeah dawkins is too.
MrAkleonard 2 weeks ago
What could be more ancient than evolutionary conjecture's Sumerian gospel ("...an arcanum of prosodic theory which is the province of specialists..." — P.F. Baum) with its interrelated specialisms: Big Bang, primordial ooze, vicinism & subsequent congeneric sway, archallaxis, unicellular life's speciational advancements through a positive and naturalistic eugenism, transitional relics and whatnot?
IconsOfTeleplay 4 months ago
Science reveals God to the open minded. So don't worry, you're not alone.
peipappy1 4 months ago
For the truth about religion & top Bible scholarship try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life '. Also Dan Barker, Valerie Tarico, John W. Loftus, Victor J. Stenger. For humanity's shared moral core & belief in Matt 7v12 The Golden Rule try wisdomcommons. Also try comparative religion- read the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani & the Koran & Book of Mormon on skepticsannotatedbible. No one would give credence to such writings except for peer pressure & threats of death & hell. See. RichardDawkinsnet
zytigon 4 months ago
i will allways be a psychopath till the day i die...and need to let go of things that dont directly impact my life...so thank you for the conversation....it opened my eyes to a new level of thought (which by the way should of been with many others) but ill give you the credit in this situation...i dont see a point anymore in bothering with peoples personal beliefs...doesnt effect my life, i shouldnt care....thank you for that and again im sorry
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
Strong and virtuous people take a personal stand(like your jesus) and take the hit like a man...you dont need a religion or a belief, it's bullshit(if i were god i wouldnt desire worship, just creation, is enough to boost my ego, can care less what they do.(hint*)seems to be the case).take the hit like a moral person!.blaming others or allowing another ..or even BELEIF that another has given you a way to forgiveness is total crap! it just goes to show how PATHETIC such a person is to accept that
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
It is funny how only fanatics try to disprove the Evolution Theory. More than 90% of the scientific community accepts evolution, but of course, it have flaws. And the bible? Contradictory, unlogic, misogynic, homophobic...
LowresTV 4 months ago
@LowresTV did you.....WATCH this video? doubtful, after posting such a comment. or you're just that stupid.
irhjma30000 2 weeks ago
@irhjma30000 Yes I did. Well, in fact, not all, couldn't stand so many crap. It is made for retards like tou son of a bitch.
LowresTV 2 weeks ago
@LowresTV Nice english.
irhjma30000 2 weeks ago
@irhjma30000 It depends on the retard I am speaking to.
LowresTV 2 weeks ago
@LowresTV hahaha cool...makes so much sense.
irhjma30000 2 weeks ago
4,000 mothers have their babies murdered in America each day. I hate domestic violence and foreign violence too, a lot! I hate everyone and everybody that is to say all people everywhere all the time including Christmas. [Aimée Eccles protects us from enslavement as she stands betwixt mayhem & madness. Take not crap from the manufacturers of Midol as they owe us menstruated restraints. Praise Aimée Eccles!] If there's a village called Hawaii in Kenya then Barry Soetoro's fantasy has merit.
procommenter 4 months ago
wtf......a person this old should not be this stupid :/ pretty sad we live in an age where information is easy to get...i refuse to believe this guy is anything more than a troll
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge It would be helpful if you would give us rational reasons for your dismissal of what Berlinski says.
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 WHAT?!?! are you joking?...first of all, Investigation is the best way to Truth...if something has no credibility..(via NO FUCKING EVIDENCE) then Dont assert it unless you can prove it....science does not have all the answers we insignificant humans will NEVER know it all EVER...the best we can do is to discover new things for future generations, as for a god, that is not EVEN on the TABLE it is a fantasy and has been a MAJOR DETRIMENTto advancement, that we today now have to correct
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Not joking. What are YOUR reasons for accepting evolution as a truth? How well do you know the fossil record? I suspect that the difficulties exist. The proof isn't exactly like mathematics, is it? It's more like persuasion, and that life could have developed this way ... but it doesn't eliminate other possibilities.
When people respond to a serious critique with an insult, it usually means that their own faith has been questioned ... and evolution is a matter of faith too.
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 first of all evolution has nothing to do with whether there is a god....all it proves is that the Creation myths that have been put foreward have beenproven inaccurate...as for the fossils, layers of sediment and bedrock are where a sequence of fossils are found...it is why we have never had a modern human in the same layer of dinosaurs lol or a modern rabbit where it shouldnt be....if we found fossil today that is out of sequence where it shouldnt be...that would throw away evolution
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge But evolution does refute Genesis, and as far as the trivially minded are concerned, that disposes of the problems that religion relates to. It could be we are just replacing one Creation myth with another, but that is not how evolution has ever been dealt with. It's always been taken (by some) to be a refutation of God.
What I meant about the fossil record is, when you get down to close details, it often doesn't fit as well as it should. Do you think B's comments ... (cont'd)
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge on all the changes a land animal would have to make to become a whale are irrelevant? I think it's an excellent point. Same with the eye. How does an animal 'evolve' any organ that is new? How does an forepaw become a wing, except by centuries of the species being an existential danger, because it's even useless as a forepaw for generations before that species can fly.
I am no expert, but these strike me as worthwhile questions that evolutionists duck, because of their faith.
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 and evolution does not require faith...it has overwhelming PEER REVIEWED evidence that constantly backs it up...there is no faith required with something baced on fact....Like i dont need faith that austraillia exists..i can test and varify the claim...just like evolution, you can test and varify it with repeatable results.. i have a respect for evidence, no reason to believe in a god, that has never been demonstrated as true,thus it is not EVEN on the table for discussion.
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Show me how you can verify that evolutionary changes, and nothing else, accounts for life on earth. I say most people believe evolution on faith, not science, and they do so to keep from believing in God. I don't say that because I am religious -- I just think it's a fact.
I don't deny evolution can explain some stuff, but not it all. And that is a problem -- for science as much as for religion.
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Was your comment that "evolution does not require faith" serious. If it was, how do you explain the explosion of life in the fossil record...or that mutations are always negative...or that the missing link is still missing...or that while the bird was "evolving" wings and couldnt fly he would have been eaten by the cat...or....
EGrifenhagen 2 months ago
@EGrifenhagen You seem to be badly informed on the theory of evolution.
By the explosion of life in the fossil record I'm assuming you are referring to the cambrian explosion which took place over a period of 20 million years, hardly sudden.Mutations are not always negative, most are totally benign. some detrimental but some are advantageous. There's plenty of missing links just look in the literature and the birds are just another species of dinosaur.
SuperSlartibartfast 2 months ago
@EGrifenhagen Spot on!, but these are the things that evolutionists ignore.
Random mutation does not happen, Genes do not mutate indefinetly, they have a limit.
The fossil record shows no gradual change at all, instead it just shows fully formed creatures, so where is this evidence that all life evolved????, its complete assumption.
Darwisim is nothing more than a false religion.
Haha, and i love your brird evolving wings analogy, very good! XD
85Aheadstix 1 month ago
@85Aheadstix Yes, every species is ''fully formed''. Most of them are extict.
There are lots of gradual changes shown in the fossil record, I don't think you looked.
gregrutz 1 month ago
@BugsMr123 Google TALKORIGINS... that site will educate you on anything you want to know about evolution and give you sourses for backing up each of the claims so that YOU can personally varify it if you really wanted to, and are done sticking your fingers in your ears shutting your eyes and saying LALALALALALALALA(like buying a plane ticket to austraillia heh)
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Went there ... I can't really see how 'evolution' is 'testable' as a theory. Can you prove that all of life goes back to one common geneological ancestor, a bit of pond-scum that formed billions of years ago? The logic of evolution is -- look, this bit of the fossil record 'fits' the prediction ... so the rest must, as well -- we just don't know how, yet.
If it fits, why are contemporary geneticists looking for the 'altruism' gene if the story is complete, and sewn up?
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 look just go to TALKORIGINS....i dont have like a lot of room to explain K-12 science in detail, thats your fault for not paying attention in school...just go look it up like any normal person does...
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Yeah, well if you think you can persuade people with this display of arrogance and insult, good luck. I know a lot about science, enough to understand what Berlinski is talking about, and you should absorb that. I have looked it up, and I hate to tell you this, but sometimes the illustrations in those Biology 101 text books are altered.
Why do they need an 'altruism gene' by the way? Hmmmmm?
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 i dont get people like you....why do you even need a higher power or a slaver? its bullshit....the fact that you believe in a god at all, turns you into a peice of shit...we both know that we have both done many wrongs in life....nothing will ever change that, it is our nature...belief in a god is usless...appealing to your own mind however is very good...which is what you allready do, but yet you dont take credit for it, and give it to a "dungeons and dragons" fantasy?!?!?!
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 not my intention to persuade, i find humor in this
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Just trolling, eh?
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 not really...but yes...however i wouldnt troll if u actually have confirmed evidence...just because you are scared of death and are a pussy to live up to your adult responsibility of tanking your rights and wrongs...
yes i laugh at cowards like you....it doesnt matter if there is a god or not...no evidence anyhow, and i would oppose a god that let things ride the way it has, perhaps attempt to cut its head off if i could.. history shows god is useless...
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge You want confirmed evidence that a theory isn't true? Isn't that a big like asking for disproof of a speculative scheme?
Who says I need a 'higher power'? I can almost hear the 'dueling banjos' in the background, as you list your biases. To me, 'evolution' and the 'God hypothesis' are on a par, as explanations.
It's possible to see logical flaws in evolution without praying in a tent. Broaden your mind, and accept that there are probably lots of things we'll never know.
BugsMr123 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 there is some substance i can learn from u..i dont deny that, and to be VERY HONEST it is not my intent to pull people away from their beliefs or to make fun.i do it because i can...but when i talk with a person that is actually decient...there is my error for being a jerk, i am not affraid to admit when im wrong and i will own up to that.u win the conversation, i need to rethink, or not give a shit about other peoples beliefs, has no impact on my life anyhow what other people believe
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@BugsMr123 well ok man i appologise...after seeing what has been said i have done a wrong to you...and that is something i personally need to answer for, i do get a bit hot headed....and yeah i appologise um, my behavior in this converstaion has been very childish....perhaps i should not have preconceptions of theists...i actually can tell you are a good person, and do not deserve the things i said to you...so im sorry man, ill let it be
MadMAn12gauge 4 months ago
@MadMAn12gauge Much appreciated.
BugsMr123 4 months ago
Pay no attention to "Da...uh Evolution Dunnit Durrr"
He has no understanding of science, the numerous FLAWS in evolution (all theories have flaws, especially evolution), and how many numerous scientists firmly reject the RELIGION of evolution.
Its a pity how indoctrinated some of today's children (like him) are with darwinist propaganda and non-science.
evoTARDSareINSANE 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE If evolution has numerous flaws then why does everyone think its the only plausible reason we exist. Why try so hard to defend something incomplete and inaccurate.
DannyTheFluff 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "all theories have flaws, especially evolution"
So how is it you act as though the theories you believe in are perfect, retard?
lethalsub 4 months ago
I've caught Da-Flugtard misunderstanding the following.....
Living Fossils, The Origin of Bats, the Mutation Paradox, the fossil record and the extraordinarily long list of scientists that do not believe in evolution.
He also can differentiate from micro and macro evolution. Microevolution is a deceptive term because in reality its just variation in species (NOT evolution).
evoTARDSareINSANE 4 months ago
Paranoid evotards often think all anti-evo accounts belong to the same person LOL.
That shows how mentally unstable they truly are. Guess that's what happens when one believes in non-existent ape-men and magical dna-defying mutations.
Tsk Tsk
evoTARDSareINSANE 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE
Is "Da...Evolution Dunnit" even able to read?
He does know you're a creationist and I am not right? Last time I checked......directed panspermia and alien engineering werent supported by creationists lol. One doesnt have to be a creationist to NOT believe in the nonsensical garbage that is evolution.
Maybe he is mentally handicapped perhaps?
buffboynick 4 months ago
@buffboynick
LOL, it wouldnt surprise me if he is illiterate.
The kid needs to focus more on getting an actual education then trying to prove the MYTH of evolution. He appears to be a tad on the paranoid side. I often find ev-LIE-utionists suffer from a gauntlet of mental disorders.
I disagree about the alien seeding/intervention but that theory is more plausible then evolutionism.
evoTARDSareINSANE 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE
anything is more plausible then Darwinian evolution, its total pseudoscience
even automated gene progression/dna metamorphosis (non darwinian evolution/intelligent gene transformation) makes more sense, but I dont agree with that theory either. That's Dr. Rhawn Joseph's theory.
buffboynick 4 months ago
@buffboynick
Oh its more than pseudoscience, its a CULT. The cult of the non-existent ape-man.
Pure idiocy and a disgrace to real scientists like myself. There is more evidence for fictional fairies and unicorns then there is for macroevolution and abiogenesis. Its pure sci-fi CRAP.
evoTARDSareINSANE 4 months ago 2
@evoTARDSareINSANE Stop pretending to be a scientists. I know elementary school children that are smarter than you.
DaFleegsta 4 months ago
@buffboynick "anything is more plausible then Darwinian evolution, its total pseudoscience"
Talking about pseudoscience, name one retarded scientist who thinks that gravity is only produced by stars and black holes. Retard.
lethalsub 4 months ago
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@lethalsub You should hear buffboynick's knowledge of fundamental physics:
LS: "What is denser, supermassve black holes, or atomic nuclei?"
BBN: "what has the STRONGEST "gravitational force" known to man???
Durrrrr
Think about it, it resembles your brain....."a black hole"
hahaha
Density has nothing to do with gravity. Gravitons produce gravity, not "density""
Self explanatory.
lethalsub 4 months ago
I'd bet money that Lethalsub and DaFleegtard are the SAME PERSON.
I've never seen an evotard like that get OWNED repeatedly like him.
Has he ever won an argument?
evoTARDSareINSANE 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE Show some evidence that you have a degree in molecular biology, retard.
lethalsub 4 months ago
"dogs ... no matter how far we look back there dogs" ??? incorrect ... dogs evolved from wolves .. and there is a mountain of evidence to back that up .... i call quack on this guy .
blueteamleader420 5 months ago in playlist EVOLUTION DEBUNKED by DR. BERLINSKI
Berlinski is awesome!
jimmyjojo4321 5 months ago
Ignoring the fact that he couldn't provide one rational flaw against evolution, and that he idiotically claimed that evolution explains the origin of life -_- ... What alternative theory have you provided Dr.?
TheRealPrizeRebel 5 months ago
Great comments from free thinkers below.
Darwinian evolution is indeed a fraudulent RELIGION posing as science.
Evolutionary theory is not remotely scientific in ANY way.
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Evolutionary theory is not remotely scientific in ANY way."
Could you explain that?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
Could you explain what part of this video series and basic logic you dont understand?????
Do you see any radical "macroevolutionary" change occurring in nature??? Because if so, then you need to alert your local biologists in your area because I'm sure they'd love to study those NEVER BEFORE SEEN mutations that can cause such magic.
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Do you see any radical "macroevolutionary" change occurring in nature??? "
That type of radical change in nature would more likely disprove rather than prove evolution.
Why do you mention magic, science isn't magic?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
Evolutionary theory is NOT science, its "magic" disguised as science.
The Origin of Bats is unexplained by all evolutionists (and so are most species)
Claiming that species that exist today somehow magically came from a more primitive ancestor without showing proof for that claim is voodoo science.
If you're an evolutionist then you're even more retarded then I previously thought.
Cambrian Explosion = not "gradual change"
Evolution DISPROVEN
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
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@evoTARDSareINSANE "Claiming that species that exist today somehow magically came from a more primitive ancestor without showing proof for that claim is voodoo science."
Do scientists actually claim this? IE. Use the term 'magic'?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Cambrian Explosion = not "gradual change""
How ungradual was it retard? You need to explain.
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
Research it on Google or Wikipedia moron.
Even Darwin admitted himself that the Cambrian Explosion punched a huge hole in his theory and that is listed on the Cambrian Explosion Wikipedia page.
That's why Neo-Darwinists invented "punctuated equilibrium" you clueless TWIT.
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE Darwin had many problems with his theory, that is why people have modified it over time.
So what do scientists say today, Darwin died nearly 130 years ago.
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
Here are some scientists with PHD degrees (most are in biology) that say evolution is BULLSHIT.....
Dr. Jonathan Wells, Dr. Paul Nelson, Dr John Sanford, Dr. Michael Behe, Dr. John Morris, Dr. David Berlinski, and Dr. Stephen Meyer (all these men have videos on here)
Also, the left hand column of my channel lists the numerous problems with evolution. So do my channel links and videos.
Are you retarded?????
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Here are some scientists with PHD degrees (most are in biology) that say evolution is BULLSHIT....."
They actually say it's BULLSHIT? They use those actual words?
Have you ever heard of project steve retard?
"Are you retarded?????" I have far superior mathematics skills to buffboynick, so does that make you a retard?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
Have you heard of Project Bullshit????
The reason many scientists reluctantly "agree" on evolution is because they are pressured into it by academic institutions since they get their funding from government grants.
You have got to be the MOST ignorant individual on all of Youtube.
Lucky for everyone I am here to expose you 4FunPlyain. haha
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Have you heard of Project Bullshit????"
Er, I might have heard of it. Is it the one where you get called an ev-LIE-utionist if you don't agree with the theory of intelligent design? Proponents of Project Bullshit going around saying evolution is BULLSHIT, then not explaining why in sufficient detail?
Is that the one you mean, hypocrite?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
Here is a LIST of some of the PHD level scientists that have videos on Youtube that say macroevolution is total BULLSHIT.........Dr. Jonathan Wells, Dr. Paul Nelson, Dr. John Sanford, Dr. Michael Behe, Dr. David Berlinski, Dr. John Morris, Dr. Rick Oliver, and Dr. Stephen Meyer.
MOST of those scientists ^ have degrees in the field of Biology.
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE
I told you that lethalsub was a TARD lol.
4FunPlaying (oops meant to say lethal sub haha) is an IDIOT.
Excellent comments man. I bow down to your glory ;)
buffboynick 5 months ago
@buffboynick
You're right. LS is an idiot and possibly cointelpro.
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago 2
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@evoTARDSareINSANE "buffboynick (1 week ago)
Thank you for exposing the IGNORANCE of the CULT of Darwinism. I am happy to see REAL SCIENCE being shown for a change. Excellent."
I copied this off your channel, it contradicts what you said on another video:
"who is this buffboynick?"
Are you retarded?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@buffboynick "I told you that lethalsub was a TARD lol."
More evidence retard.
lethalsub 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "MOST of those scientists ^ have degrees in the field of Biology."
Buffboynick claims to have a degree in molecular biology, and he claims to have a degree in physics as well. Yet he thinks that gravity is produced only in stars. Saying these people have degrees in biological fields doesn't add weight to their arguments, retard.
lethalsub 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE Do you believe in a young earth?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "The TRUTH is that if this supposed "shared ancestor" had actually existed.....its fossils would have been MORE ABUNDANT and EASIER to find then the supposed "sub species" that diverged in lineage from it, as well as fossils that are MILLIONS to BILLIONS of years older."
This is off your channel, could you explain why is this so. If not, can you supply me with a website that does?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "Occupation: Molecular Biologist and University Professor"
This is off your channel as well, at which university are you a professor?
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub
I say on my channel why I dont reveal where I teach at.
Learn to read evoTARD
evoTARDSareINSANE 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE I did read what you have written, retard. You are the one who can't understand english. It's convenient that you don't want to reveal your location, it could be argued that you lose some of your credibility.
You can tell me though, I won't tell anyone else, I promise.
I don't see any danger in telling me what you are a professor of.
lethalsub 5 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE "The TRUTH is that if this supposed "shared ancestor" had actually existed.....its fossils would have been MORE ABUNDANT and EASIER to find then the supposed "sub species" that diverged in lineage from it, as well as fossils that are MILLIONS to BILLIONS of years older."
This is off your channel, could you explain why is this so. If not, can you supply me with a website that does?
I'm asking again, because you tend to avoid difficult questions regarding your own words.
lethalsub 5 months ago
@lethalsub yeah I wouldn't bother with that kid, "evotardsareinsane".. he's a preacher. I've spent the last couple days disproving him and his friend (theyre both ignorant misinformed trolls)..
Ha, and he claims to be a scientists XD He's not, here's our convo, it's quite funny actually how much he lies: /watch?v=HRX-NlNtI9k
DaFleegsta 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE Yeah I'd really like to know where you get your credentials. We all know the real reason why you wont reveal where you teach. You aren't a professor, you're a liar.
DaFleegsta 4 months ago
@evoTARDSareINSANE Lol and it's very funny that you occasionally use your alternate account for back up in your losing arguments. XD
And when you run out of rebuttles you refer to your irrelevant list of the supposed 0.01% of scientists that actually know as little as you do on the subject.
You are attempting to fool very rational and educated people. We aren't going to buy your bullshit the same way your blind creationist and theist friends do. I'd stop wasting time if I were you :).
DaFleegsta 4 months ago
Evolution is a pathetic lie. Atheists mission to deny the existence of God has reached a level of such big bs, even they don't know what the heck their talking about most the time. And when respected man in the field of biology, science... etc. speak out against the evolution illusion, they are attacked and insulted by morons.
Breakdown916 5 months ago in playlist Evolution
the indoctrination of the darwinian evolution (Darwin was a minister and NOT a scientist btw) is so strict, that people close their eyes on any contradiction. There is NO proof of gradual transformation through 500 million old fossils discovered that proves Humans transformed from earlier apes. They first had the creation and when opportunity came, darwinian evolution got put forth and sheep followed it like it always does.
sdeevooo 6 months ago
"This is the way life originated?"
No, this is the way life progresses. Pick up a fucking biology book 'doctor' and educate yourself.
153 creationist likes and it's obvious...
LoveNeverCeases 6 months ago
Anyone who says "we can't make sense of the Fossil Record," especially when that person is a degreed individual in the sciences, is a fucking retard.
TaimaDjinn 6 months ago
This man is not speaking the truth, nor is he logically or intellectually consistent, nor does he have any of the basic understanding of the sciences he refereces. If you believe this fraud, you are in serious need of a better education and more awareness of fact. He should be ashamed for what he is saying, but I doubt an ego like his knows what shame is.
SolofTarsus5 6 months ago
@GeeHadForDummies - Insulting me is not a solution to the question of this man's ability to tell the truth or not. The fact is that the evolutionary process (in combination with the immediate reality of biology, genetics, embryology, the fossil record, and so on) is grossly and intentionally misrepresented by this guy. His allagorical allusions are just wrong and the natural sciences just do not work the way he claims. I bark as I do becasue those seeking truth should know the facts, not a lie..
SolofTarsus5 6 months ago
AMEN AND AMEN, The TRUTH hurts and yes makes mankind mad! But this guy speaks TRUTH
Savvygirl22 6 months ago
The idea of evolution has been around since the ancient Greeks, and descent with modification is a perfectly reasonable theory. But ... Darwin's proposed mechanism--natural selection working on random variation--stands the test of neither logic nor scientific observation. The destruction of the unfit, which is all NS accomplishes, does not explain the origin of the fit. The fossil record, as Berlinski mentions, does not fit a Darwinian template. Cf. paleontologists like Otto Schindewolf.
Gsimjohnston 6 months ago
I am a well qualified scientist and find it deplorable that scientific leaders who goes against the main stream are so shunned. Truth does not need a vote or majority. As a scientist (religion aside) I find Darwinism to be on the same level as alchemy with the exception of time frame (chemical reactions takes seconds, evolution ions to prove or disprove).
jacqueshugo 7 months ago 2
@jacqueshugo Are you now? Is your field biology or biochemistry?
LesPaul2006 7 months ago
@jacqueshugo You, sir, are a poor scientist, because you can't tell the difference between ions and AEONS.
TaimaDjinn 6 months ago
@jacqueshugo You do mean "aeons" don't you. Well qualified my ass.
alianchild 6 months ago
What a dumbass, mathematician and not a biologist. And he lies when he says that there are a lot of "skeptics" in the scientific world about the theory of evolution. No sane scientist dobts the theory of evolution, simply cause it's a proven fact all over and over and over again.
kokomal 7 months ago
Oh man.. I bet simpletons eat this shit up with a spoon.. I'm sorry Mr. Berlinski but are you aware of some Scientific Theory that is not in some respect "flawed" or leaves no "unanswered questions"?
SofaKingLoaded 7 months ago
Berlinski is speaking a lot but saying nothing. Creationist love to lie because the layperson doesn't know the difference. He says most scientists don't believe in evolution but a majority of scientists do accept the evidence for evolution. Creationists, don't just believe what you're told on youtube, go and read a book on evolution by a Evolutionary Biologist and you will see that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Creationist never give evidence for creation because there is none.
Jshect 7 months ago
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Hey Darwinists.....
Go find your MYTHICAL ape-man shared ancestor and his MAGICAL species-transforming mutations. That's the ONLY way to prove your MYTH is true.
Darwinism should be classified as a mental illness.
Its should be labeled as a "religion" since its more religion then actual science.
Its a pseudoscientific logical fallacy of EPIC proportions.
buffboynick 7 months ago
"Berlinski's writings are not scientific, but popular, and Berlinski has no known record of his own contribution to the development of mathematics or of any other science." Mark Perakh, prof. of Mathematics at California State University
"his approach consists of constructing strawmen, then knocking them down with misinterpreted, faulty, or nonexistent data as well as carefully selected quotations from evolutionary scientists" E. Scott, exec director of the National Center for Science Education
ZZzzzzzWhat 7 months ago
Too bad that Berlinski did little more than make platitudes and did not actually offer an argument.....not even one.
To counter one point....we have constructed computer simulations that demonstrate evolutionary processes quite well.
kshackleton 8 months ago
@kshackleton ur basing it off a computer simulation not actual life...
MrAe500 8 months ago
@MrAe500
Wrong. The computer simulations are actually instances of evolution by Darwinian natural selection. The rules are coded, a starting point is created, and the process is allowed to run. There is no goal aside from reproduction into the next generation and the results are that new and novel traits do evolve which are responsive to the pressures of the environment.
There are many examples.
Berlinski is simply wrong.
kshackleton 8 months ago
@kshackleton So what you're saying is your computer simulations had a designer? That's interesting.
Believerification 7 months ago
@Believerification
Yes...so? It would be akin to God setting up the rules and letting the system run without interference.
kshackleton 7 months ago
@kshackleton Just as long as "God" is your starting point. Are you arguing for or against a creator?! You said, "The rules are CODED, a starting point is CREATED..." Hello! Notice anything about those statements.
Believerification 7 months ago
@Believerification I notice that you can say that evolution is entirely true so long as you accept that god set up the rules and walked away.
kshackleton 7 months ago
Those who wish to live as flesh, then live and die like flesh with the earth. Those who wish to live as Spirit, may live as such to their own accords, this is the right of choice within man.
Exentine 8 months ago
can all you creatards say "argument from ignorance"?
MrSyrett 9 months ago
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buffboynick 7 months ago
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@MrSyrett No, But I can say you are arrogant, and ignorant, and wrote this for lack of any actual argument you could come up with.
BackwoodsBoy30 7 months ago
I was wrong in my previous statement. Any assumptionthat this man has any integrity is misguided. He is a liar and a fraud. Flat out. He is not telling the truth, period.
SolofTarsus5 9 months ago
What a load of crap. This man is an intellectual fraud. Worse, look at his supposed record of teaching nearly everything there is to teach. NO academic works like that. His thinking is muddled, his facts are wrong, his understanding of the evoiutionary process is nearly a vacuum, and all his "argument" is based on his personal contacts.
SolofTarsus5 9 months ago
@Tripockets your arguement is that 1 guy with a PHD argueing against evolution is proof that its wrong? oh so the fact that THOUSANDS (even more than that) of other scientists with PHD's support evolution? "accepting evolution on faith" or maybe you're accepting this mans arguements on faith? you really have no clue what you're even talking about do you? u just like to type on a keyboard against a topic u don't understand to feel good huh?
cabot2jville2010 9 months ago
This guy is a joke. He moves the goal post around so much Evolution could never be explain anything to him. A good example of real time evolution is drug resistant bacteria but he moves the goal post with this saying they are still 'just' bacteria. People used to think the sun went around the earth. Wake up tomorrow you'll see the sun rise in the east and set it the west. You'll see it move across the sky. How much more proof do you need? Thus the sun goes around the earth! Science is wrong!
jim6584 9 months ago
@jim6584 That's because creatiomorons stick like hell to the fact that, for Evolution to be true, a rooster must give birth to a horse.
LesPaul2006 9 months ago
This guy should meet up with the 12 Year old Autistic boy who believes hes on the verge of disproving his theory.
mattbuckholz1 10 months ago