Christopher was as good as his world. His children were at his funeral. He never judged them or made them feel bad about themselves. never pressured them with impossible-to-live-up-to ideals. He was a man who stood by his convictions without hiding behind a god he never met. he was 1000 X the man that any Christian man is, following what you have been taught like good little boys without question.
@sexyeur one day when you take a middle school biology class you'll learn we are in the primate family. And monkeys are a completely different family, genus and specie. Idiot
@rightnearthebeachboy Remember that biology is not theology, and never should be confused as such. You're not just an animal. Your soul lives forever. Consider prophecy as well. God intervenes in history and predicts so that you will know He is and that you don't have to 'look' for Him in the bottle of your beaker as if you really intended to find the Maker of all things there. Open your mind and your heart. God wants you to change the way you think and act, toward Him and others. Amen.
@sexyeur man, I'm really sorry to say this but, you're slowing down evolution. If you don't consider humans to be a type of animal then you're lost in a world thats flying past you at an incredible rate. In 1000 years i bet christianity will be less than 50% of the USA. Science and reason will take the reins on the future. Also if god wanted me to change the way I think, and made me so I'd never change, then thats a bit evil huh?
So today I told my fellow class mates all in religion they said that girl all the stuff she went threw was a "test" of her faith. I couldn't help but laugh in my mind (I'm a highscool freshmen soo)
Imagine how nontheists would judge a beauty pageant, in the way they judge the LORD's faith: Their attitude would be 'There can be NO Miss USA!!!'—unless of course they could sodomize her first!!
If you in 2012 can believe in religion - you are, i'm sorry to say - very very stupid.
And knowing, that had you been raised in the middle east, you would have all of the same feelings and beliefs about allah and muhammed - can't you see it is mumbo-jumbo???
A talking snake, a boat with millions if animals, a virgin giving birth to a boy who later became a zombie.
Religion is proof that humans are NOT the mist intelligent on this little blue ball.
but ur petulant provocation is so deserving sayn u don't feel 'loved' by a christian who merely convicts you of your petty sin! Ud require kid gloves when a slap would do & You *love* to judge Christians from your panzy moral high ground using God against them like the real hypocrite you are. Jesus hated you. He say u try holding the keys to His own kingdom while u yourself won't enter in, standing there preventing all others who would! Yes, FEAR HIM!
@PaulAll1313 Paul, you don't realize you're already on your way to hell all by yourself. Christians weren't made so you could piss on them at your convenience. You have to born again to really understand what a Christian should do, like hating evil, wherever you find it. You say "I am not wrong" and Jesus will tell you "Therefore your sin remains!" God is holy. Not you. He's not here to demand your vain glory you avail of Him for yourself. He's here demanding His own glory He you owe Him.
There is no peace for the wicked, says the LORD. Fear God Who has the power to throw you in hell. or just go to hell and leave Christians alone you sad mferz!
@PaulAll1313 Just know you're going to a literal hell and there burning painfully you'll never have to deal with God or another Christian ever again que te vayas mas bien in su infierno, eh? You will have damned yourself, even forewarned.
And now for the fine question you love to hate...What if you're wrong? ;) :) :) :) I want you wickedly unrepentant to burn. You don't deserve a loving God or the dignity we humans enjoy because you're dumb like the ox leading himself to the slaughter. Snap!
@sexyeur How christian of you to judge me and condemn me to hell. I thought that was your god's job to do so and it was a sin for you to do so?
I am not wrong. I don't have a list of failed prophecies and human suffering to account for with my words.
By your lusting for my suffering, you have proven me right in my assumption that you are a bunch of racist, homophobes that need some unseen magical being to hide to behind so you can justify spewing venom and wishing harm upon others.
@sexyeur You do your religion disservice with your hate speech. God gave us free will to choose him or not, because he loves us. If you are truly a follower of Christ, then you must afford your fellow man that same free will and love him as Christ loves him. He may disagree, he may do so in ways you feel are inflammatory, but all you can do is spread the good news of Jesus Christ and love your fellow man. Nothing about preaching your desire that he face hellfire conveys love at all.
but you're not a man! You're a cowardly self-confessed fuqn monkey w/out the morals a Man would be! If you won't hear the truth, well then maybe we can slap into you. But no one told you pigs to mislead others as "morals" you damned Hypocrite. Y'know Scriptures say the slap of a Friend can be trusted! Wow, huh?! Consider how apropos that just might be, in your case as well, eh? Our 'religion' tell us to tell others. Yours should say nothing!!! Be silent you hypocrite!!
@sexyeur Never mind, I thought I might have been speaking to another human being. I was wrong to expect you to listen to reason or even to adhere to the standards set by the religion you claim to follow. That you are a Christian at all is in question. You can quote scripture, but you cherry pick - and you do that badly, I might add. Carry on.
@zeperx you're not a human being. you're a fuqn monkey remember? Even Jefferson wasn't as fuqtup as you are he said "we're endowed by our Creator"! WTF does that make you??? stfu you petulant fag!!! Christianity is for human beings—who acknowledge a higher power. since you don't, what's it to you???? FAG!
@zeperx apologies. you're no monkey. forgive me for your science which insists that nothing matters because that's all we can be. I wonder why the laws of the universe do not evolve. Why don't people weigh more on some days than others? Seems remarkably structured and designed. it's amazing but your religion of scientism suggests nothing and no one is special, even that love is nothing when most know it's all that really matters. God is love. Not science.
@zeperx I am not God—I'm a work in progress—even if you'd expect me to be. Humanists think there is no God, because they want to be their own god. That's what Satan wanted to and he was cast down from heaven like lightning falls from the sky. You shouldn't wonder 'if' there's a God. He is. We don't have to guess. God has spoken in prophecy but if you're not interested to know He'll deny you in heaven as well. Don't let unfettered petulance and blind skepticism rule your heart and mind. Love Him.
@sexyeur FYI, the human body fluctuates in weight on average 1.5 kg during the period of one day. God is not God because God is not anything. God is not love, love is love therefore you do not need to pollute your mind with hysterical nonsense (polite way of saying fucking bullshit lies), made up by nomads over 2000 years ago in order to love fully and wholly (not holy). Clear out the fairy tales that you feel you must consider in order to love and simply love all by yourself, its best.
@sexyeur - "There is no peace for the wicked... Fear God Who has the power to throw you in hel.l"
If this is what religion does to your mind -- turns you into a sick, twisted, paranoid delusional lunatic -- then I think I'll stick with rational explanations for nature, and discard your magical book of fairy tales.
James advises: "Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters. Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. He chose to give us birth through the word of truth...human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires. Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you."
@sexyeur - I don't care about your magical book of fairy tales, "angels," and sky-daddies. Read a REAL book for yourself. Science, history, philosophy. Clear and free your mind from ancient ignorant dogma.
I've never understood how people extract "hope" and "dignity" from religion, let alone Christianity. If anything, it teaches you the polar opposite: that unless you flagellate yourself and your fellow man in the name of your mystical djinn of choice (and I use the word "choice" very loosely) do you get to experience an afterlife of sunshine, unicorns and double rainbows. Then again, this is William Lane Craig we're talking about, so yeah...
@GeneticallySuperior1 There are plenty of fools who are articulate but you still know they're fools, Hichens isn't one of them. Just because you don't understand what he's saying it doesn't make him a fool.
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@rockermanmatt where do idiots like yourself come from? I made a very simple comment & you just HAD to write me & let me know how much i get on your nerves!! It's evidence to your input that you have no idea what hitchens or I are even talking about. I think YOU need to stop trolling & visit a site that you can actually comprehend.. Thankyou for the laugh...
@rockermanmatt Your the troller you fucktard! I made "1" single comment in regards to this video & it wasn't inappropriate at AT ALL! Then suddenly "rockermanmatt the retard" comes along & decides to walk on my commentary! HMMM~ Who's the troller you fucking idiot? Think about this shit before you open your stupid mouth! JEEEEEESH! Fucking idiots everywhere.
@GeneticallySuperior1 A troll is someone who posts inflammatory comments for no reason among other things. You are the very definition of a troll.
You clicked on a Christopher Hitchens video just to call him a fool and provoke a response, which you managed to do. I'll say it again, stop trolling and grow up. If you don't like him, don't click on him. Simple.
If you can't even respond without calling me a "fucktard" don't reply at all. Bye.
The introductory comments must be the worst argument for theism around. Because some people are weak and gullible and without hope they should delude themselves into believing in things that do not exist? That is a grave insult to all religious people. And they dare call Atheists insulting.
The religious are all afflicted with the same delusion, this delusion being a belief that they know what happens beyond death, though not a single human being on this planet does.
Christopher Hitchens / Richard Dawkins / Matt Dillahunty are my fucking heroes!
I was a cunt at school and college but I really wish I had listened and learned more so I could sound half as intelligent as these guys and give almost as strong arguements against religion and for atheism!
He didn't really answer the question: What does anti-theism have to offer to the downtrodden? He convincingly argued against monotheism, but did not argue convincingly in favor of his own position.
"Christianity has something to say for people who are not strong, who are not intelligent. For people who fall down." - Craig.
Very well said. In other words "If you are easily brainwashed, who can't for himself/herself think for oneself, easily swayed by words made by people 2000 years ago. People who can be very arrogant through ignorance. Welcome to CHRISTIANITY! "
@Emarquez1896 don't you just love it when an obvious fool speaks so frivolously for the Word of Truth like he's been a disappointed bible scholar all his life? The fool thinks his attitude alone mastered Hebrew & Greek & hermeneutics & eschatology and suddenly somehow he finds he's "weak" only bc it never happened. & so he wisely advises "people can be very arrogant" (and here's the real kicker!) through ignorance" LOL ;) It's as if he's impressed he learned to whistle out his ass.
@Emarquez1896 Christianity is clearly 'for' the strong. Look at politics today. Who behaves in a social Darwinian manner? The Christians and their 'free' market masters of course! Christianity was adopted not by the meek but by the warrior caste. All religions are the same in that respect. The healthy and strong can more easily delude themselves that god has a plan for them and is all good.
@MinisterAilingTongue You've got a point. But I would say that Christianity is 'by' those who are strong 'for' the weak. If God is powerful over the people, then the people who controls God controls the rest.
@Emarquez1896 It might be pretty cool to have one or more powerful, benevolent beings giving advice and aid to us misguided primates. Unfortunately it looks like we're completely on our own. They might be out there. One/many may have even presided somehow over the cosmic kick off. Who knows? We don't. I'm an atheist in that I reject the truth of (man made) religions and their claims concerning god(s). We humans are our only hope. Thus we must be guided by reason and compassion sans superstition.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Is it not terribly patronizing to say that Christians are too weak and too stupid to find consolation somewhere other than a divine fairy-tale? I think that's why many atheists are so militant. Because we believe everyone has the ability to be intelligent and strong enough to stand alone in the universe rather than be slaves to a fairy-tale.
@abeeftec - you said "I have offered to prove the existance [SIC] of God…" - why are you wasting your time HERE then? Submit your proof to a peer-reviewed journal, WIN the Nobel prize in Science, and you'll get $1.5 million, and you will change the world. What are you waiting for? YOU and YOU ALONE can "prove" God's existence!!! GO FOR IT!
@geneolune tsk...no wonder Abraham replied to the man burning in hell begging from great pain for even a drop of water that never came, when all he wanted to do was to warn his brothers not to go there..."even if one were to rise from the dead, they wouldn't believe it..." so ingrained is their utterly damning stupidity hidden in their unceasing deceit. They merit their finer places in hell, all by themselves!!! Read it and weep, geneolune. "GO FOR IT!"
you i know fuck it I dont care anymore. Believe your nonsense if helps you get through the day, but please dont fucking vote to restrict my rights based on your beliefs adn I dont care if you want to be delusional. I just care, remain willfully ignorant of science, I just dont care anymore.
@Xamaza actually You saying FUCK IT shows me that you just DONT WANT TO BELEIVE THE BIBLE. And when you see all my EVIDENCE you cannot deny it. And therefore you run from it and Go back to your proverbial hamster wheel and run on it going nowhere. You are the one WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I dont believe I have a Chained will. It is YOU who has the Chained will here. I can CHOOSE to live for God or not. You are NOT CAPABLE of living in the truth therefore you are CHAINED TO A LIE. Its not about CARE
@abeeftec You see I dont have to have faith in evolution, and even if I were not believe in evolution that would not change the fact that it is true.
abiogenesis is not confirmed - yet - but we are working on it.
I do understand DNA, protein chains, biochemistry and and reactionary science. If you did, you might understand why we laugh at people that argue against evolution without evidence as we do people that claim the earth is 6,000 years old and or think the world is flat.
@Xamaza "You see I dont have to have faith in evolution, and even if I were not believe in evolution that would not change the fact that it is true." Actually you do Have faith in evolution. And for the rest of your message under that statement I will NOT comment because YOU OBVIOUSLY mistake me for Christains you have spoken to in the past! Remember what you said about" ALL ATHEISTS?" Well, Same goes for you!!
I CAN prove God Exists, But I CANNOT do it in a you tube post!!
@Xamaza If you think that a person NOT of faith proved the world was ROUND you are again mistaken! It was A CHRISTAIN who Sailed the Sea to PROVE IT. And those who claim the earth is 6000 years old mistake the existance of PEOPLE AND the space of Time between Scriptures with The EARTH AGE which is FAR different. They are TRYING to honor what they THINK the bible says but it DOES NOT SAY IT. The 6000 years is what is determined APPROXIMATELY on a LOST people! NOT earths AGE.
@Xamaza I am NOT a stupid Christain who assumes anything.And I am TELLING you that there IS a distinct difference, a line between FACT and built up evidences.Evidence does NOT indicate FACT. It indicates EVIDENCE,You need to determine if the evidence is CIRCUMSTANTIAL or Is it Aevidentail! Meaning, Could go either way. If you have some Evidence for evolution that is NOT either of those but BULLET PROOF,I would love to hear it,But first conclude that what you have shown so far is aevidentail
@abeeftec I dont think I ever called you a stupid christian, but misguided and ignorant, but that is nothing to be ashamed up, we are all born ignorant...
Police would argue against that. We use evidence and try to inturpret the data the best way possible. As such, science does the same thing that is why we rely on science to make sense of things in the natural world.
@Xamaza Misguided and Ignorant? And since you cannot prove that I am ignorant, And you have already skated around the dawkins issue, I would say you calling me ignorant is just an attempt at some sort of 1 up on me here. The fact is, I think your blind and cant see because you refuse to check into these things with an UNBIASED mInd. I spent years looking into this. I am sure I am older then you are. And believe this, I gave Christains just as hard a time as U but FOR YEARS!!
@Xamaza what I do know is that the PEICES of the PUZZLE FIT TWO THEORIES. And you say they are FACTS for evolution and Christains say they are FACTS FOR GOD. So how do we rectify this problem? Should we just say they are BOTH LOONIES? Because I dont think there are NO rational people before the atheist movement and most beleived in God even if they didnt adhere to his principles. Putting their hand on the bible would cause most to thell the truth. Which is sacreligious really and means nothing
@abeeftec The difference is, science will concede when it is proven wrong and adjust itself to be inline with what is true if that is what the evidence says.
Have you heard the term argument from ignorance? There are MANY christians that believe in science, evolution and STILL Believe in god bro. They are not mutually exclusive. You need to find a way to believe in both.
@Xamaza Actually evolution was said,Long ago when Darwin started the theory, That the only thing that will cause evoluion to go from theory to Fact is the missing link, That is why there are JOKES about "the missing Link" Yet, Since the dawn of the Atheist movement a little less then 20 years ago, Evolution all of a sudden was picked back up and ran a different route and soon after HUMAN ORIGINS WAS REMOVED And MICRO and MACRO evolution was born. So spread FACT all you want, But Its NOT
@Xamaza "I dont care what you call it, its still evolution, micro macro, pfft w/e same thing."
Actually Micro is the SMALLER scale of evolution, You know, Your mutations and such, Which they can THEN call something FACT with the Word EVOLUTION involved. Then they spread that across news and other resources to people like you who hear them say ITS FACT, when they are talking of MICRO and you all do the rest of the work convincing people MACRO is fact! and its NOT
@Xamaza " wait let me get this right, you agree with MICRO evolution but you dont agree with MACRO evolution?"
I agree with that which can be PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. That is what I agree with and that is ALL i agree with. And I ALSO think that taking two things we knew about when Evolution was NOT FACT, And SHOVING them in a BAG Called EVOLUTION is IRRESPONSIBLE. And I am sorry but that is EXACTLY what they did with those TWO Things. ADAPTATION AND MUTATION.
@abeeftec Actually evolution is the change over time and HOW it changes is variation, mutation and adaptation.
Richard dawkings does explain this well. You are standing at hte base of a mountain and looking up and cant see how we can say we started at hte bottem and jumped straight up to the top, however if you walk around the side and take small gradual steps you can reach the top with ease.
That is all evolution ever said. Baby steps over long periods of time. Micro is macro.
@Xamaza Do you realize that Dawkins is one of the perpetrators of the LIE!And He argues persuasivly to those who already beleive in Evolution!You say that evolution doesnt take faith.Well, It does because its NOT proven. Micro does NOT prove Macro.And You know it doesnt. I am not one who hasnt looked CLOSLY because I benifit in THIS LIFE is Evolution is TRUE And GOD IS NOT.So please spare me the I dont understand crap and all the other nonsense that you charge me with.I am LESS Biased them U
@Xamaza THERE IS NO BOOK IN THE BIBLE OLDER THEN JOB! And He talks about the WORLD BEING ROUND by speaking OF Pleadies and Orion. And how the EARTH IS A SPHERE.
So those who think the world being found to be round came from SCIENCE you ARE DEAD WRONG.
@abeeftec mkay thats nice, how come jesus didnt talk about genetics? How come nuclear fission isnt mentioned?
Electricity? Steam power? Vaccines? Viruses? How come they didnt realize the sun was a star as well as all the other pretty lights in the night sky? God didnt think that important I guess?
@Xamaza because Jesus came to do the Will of the Father. And sorry but there are MANY things in the Bible that were Written under the Guise of, I WRITE THESE THINGS UNTO YOU BEFORE THEY COME TO PASS, SO THAT WHEN THEY DO COME TO PASS, YOU MIGHT BELIEVE!
And I hate to break it to you but the Bible says in the last days Man shall be as Lightning in the Sky. Man has BROKEN THE SOUND BARRIER which is what it was Refering to!. Lightning BREAKS THE SOUND BARRIER!
@Xamaza Do you just pull stuff out of your ass to say? Of COURSE we Broke the sound barrier Long ago, BUT IT WAS IN THE BIBLE LONG BEFORE IT WAS DONE!! The fact that you would say We Broke the sound barrrier long ago sound like you are saying we broke it before the Bible was written! And you call me Full retard?
Come on man, I think you lack the ability to reason ANYTHING. And the only way you know anything is that SOMEONE TELLS YOU what to beleive. You cannot deny that one pal. NO WAY
@abeeftec You know what would have been a REAL prophecy? explaining HOW we were going to break the sound barrier.
Something that no one could possibly know. Your claims of men as lightning means nothing to me. at all.
You are asking me to be reasonable, but you still havent proven god exists in the first place, all you have proven is that YOU BELIEVE he exists. Which was never in question...
@Xamaza You know what was REALLY PROPHETIC ABOUT IT?? That they didnt even CONSIDER A SOUND BARRIER Because they were NOT scientists! YET they speak of things Science has FOUND OUT in ways common to them, Which is what you can expect from people looking into the future and not having words for what they see! I dont just BELIEVE he exists HE DOES. And if you dont believe he does, Then you are FOOLISH. Because even that which is in the healthcare Bill was spoken about in the BIBLE.
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@Xamaza please tell me what ELSE the writter of that SCRIPTURE Could have MEANT when he said, " In the DAY OF HIS PREPARATION MAN SHALL BE AS LIGHTNING IN THE SKIES" What could He POSSIBLY had meant,Since he was speaking about things that would happen AFAR OFF from the time that they were WRITTING THAT SCRITURE as Evidenced with the A part of the scripture which says... IN THE DAY OF HIS PREPARATION Which the term is ONLY used in regards to the END OF TIME.
@abeeftec I dunno can you explain the meaning of poems? Or Music? does that mean it has to mean what YOU claim it to be? Pfft w/e kid.
Again, if it had been Specific, about something they didnt know, like oh I dunno, that lightning creates antimatter, that would be interesting. but what you have isnt. You sound like raving lunatic, nothing more and will convince few others unless tehy are mentally unstable.
@Xamaza Why do you think that you people are smarter then christains? I mean, Have you once saw me say PFFT KID , Everytime I say something you have no legitimate response for you make light of it in some weird way of speak condesendingly toward me. Is rather boring to watch you atheists do this.
Science is not EVERYTHING. And since you try to MAKE it everything you WORSHIP IT. Did you know that EVERYONE is given a MEASURE of faith and you can place that where ever you WANT TO! you choose S
@Xamaza Why do you think that you people are smarter then christains? I mean, Have you once saw me say PFFT KID , Everytime I say something you have no legitimate response for you make light of it in some weird way of speak condesendingly toward me. Is rather boring to watch you atheists do this.
Science is not EVERYTHING. And since you try to MAKE it everything you WORSHIP IT. Did you know that EVERYONE is given a MEASURE of faith and you can place that where ever you WANT TO! you choose S
@Xamaza And you want me to NOT use the Bible? Then you stop using Science to prove evolution!
you see,If I was using the BIBLE to prove the BIBLE it would be different.But I am USING EVENTS have were FORTOLD BEFORE THEY HAPPENED. Which YOU cannot claim for evolution so I am sorry but my method is MORE ACCURATE THEN YOURS.Also, Cars were Prophesied about in Nahum. TELEVISION in Revelation. on and on it goes! Airplanes. The Sudden SURGE in Technology! Its all there pal. But you wouldnt know
@abeeftec Science is based on evidence, reason and intellect. Your book of fables != fact. Word of mouth stories passed down for generations != fact. The great thing about science is believing it doesnt matter.
@Xamaza So let me ask you,Why is it then,That when you speak of Evolution I dont insult you nor do I call you names,But I give you an ALTERNATIVE to what you say is FACT FOR EVOLUTION.YET whenever I say something about the Bible, Instead of giving an alternative you resort to name calling, insults, taking digs at the bible.Why not just admit it is NOT you who is using reason nor intellect but it is I who is using My intellect to show you science is NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.And never has been ALWAYS
@abeeftec I dont care if you do insult me, I have thick skin and dont mind.
Science is the philosophy of discovery, creationsim (intelligent design) is the philosophy of ignorance.
Your book is not about reason, logic or intellect. It is not based on evidence. If you understood what science does and how it works, you would understand the difference. You dont, so please reeducate yourself if needed, but ignore the holy book.
@Xamaza Look I have some pretty thick skin myself, So who cares, The point was you cant just give a rebuttal without the nonsense. I dont have enough room in one post to insult you. Though sometimes I think its very necessary. My BOOK is ALL ABOUT REASON AND LOGIC AND INTELLECT! HOWEVER, It is your intellect and your Ego over your intellect, Yes your INFLATION of your own ego that hinders you from seeing the truth. Science can ALSO be wrong. Take e=mc2 For example. Just proven WRONG.
@abeeftec you i know fuck it I dont care anymore. Believe your nonsense if helps you get through the day, but please dont fucking vote to restrict my rights based on your beliefs adn I dont care if you want to be delusional. I just care, remain willfully ignorant of science, I just dont care anymore.
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@Xamaza Actually the bad thing about science is that sometimes it is WRONG but you dont see that very much because its not reported. TRIAL AND ERROR is the KEY to knowing that is true! But the ATHEIST movement calls Evolution FACT all around because they WANT GOD TO DISAPPEAR from MAN which can NEVER happen. So they Can EVOLVE to the next stage as if GOD is holding us BACK or something! I got news for you, According to the Bible, Its all almost OVER for the Human race on earth in his condition
@abeeftec sir, evolution doesnt say a fucking thing about god. Stop claiming it does. No one said it does.
Again, I dont care what you think the bible says so please save it.
I read science journals EVERY FUCKING DAY and when something changes omfg we get smarter. The bible doesnt change and DOESNT GIVE US INSIGHT INTO ANYTHING. IT doesnt lead to NEW science or NEW understanding. There is NOTHING to DISCOVER by reading your bible.
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@Xamaza haha, When did I say evolution says something about God? Are you losing it when just a few posts ago you said that religion was for the emotionally unstable? The Bible has more wisdom then you will EVER be able to figure out. It tells me Why you are even having this debate! Romans 1
IT tells me that you will NOT believe with that PRIDEFUL self serving heart or yours. There is TOO MUCH to discover by STUDY of the BIble because GOD IS ETERNAL. Sorry Science is NOT
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@Xamaza First you prove evolution is FACT with some Actual SOLID facts!Not the facts you have shown so far which are not FACTS at all.They are two things that happen with the Human Body that has been known about far longer then they were used as PROOF to say evolution is a Fact.Thats like saying, Well WE Know that there are nuts in some candybars,And that PROVES Chocolate causes mental retardation.They have NOTHING to do with each other! Its the same as WE know the HUMAN BODY ADAPTS Therefore
@pieter292 I really get tired of hearing worthless add ons to this issue. If you dont like my caps, dont read them! If you dont like what I said and dont understand it, ASK! (you probably wont be able to read the ask if you stopped reading my caps by now) But to come on here just to say,"Yer Stupit" Like a little kid is pointless. really, You had nothing better to do with those few moments then you tell me what you think about ME? Why not weigh in on the subject at hand? Where do you stand?
@Xamaza And also, If you werent so lazy and NON CARING about your own life and the existance of God you can find out everything I know by research. BUt if you want God PROVED, All you need to do is go to my channel, Get my phone number, Call me and I will prove it. Noone has actually done that yet though I offer it to everyone I talk to. Funny how so many say they are not convinced but when it comes right down to it I prove ITS NOT ABOUT THEM NOT BELEIVING THERE IS A GOD. Its about EGO
@abeeftec Dude, relax. Capital letters don't make your ideas any more convincing. And I'm glad you can prove God. You, sir, must be some sort of genius. Let's discount the struggles that the brightest minds have had since the beginning of human existence, because you have the factual proof. You really, really have to understand the burden of proof is on your end. Evolution is the best explanation for our origins. Your "theory" is an assumption. So please, relax, and think twice before you speak.
@jwdogg1551 No need to waste you breath saying relax as if trying to make others think I am spastic when I am not. My THEORY is NOT a theory. Its a Fact. You must be getting God Confused with Evolution again! And you make your first mistake thinking the Brightest minds would know these things. The Bible is CLEAR God reveals truths to Babes and RESISTS the BRIGHTEST MINDS. And I dont care what you think about Caps being Spastic or yelling. I thought FAR MORE the twice before speaking smart guy
@abeeftec Sigh. Insults like "smart guy" don't help either. Why are your arguments so irate? I do concede that non-believers can be smug, arrogant, and self-righteous. Trust me, believers are as well. Let's argue without hostility. First, my THEORY is NOT a theory, is an oxymoron. Next, I wasn't trying to be insulting, just astounded that someone can "show" it. if you can now prove God's existence right here, right now, I'd be in your debt, and so would all of us. Please present your argument.
@jwdogg1551 Very funny,Because thats All I get from Atheists is Smart ass answers and Insults.And I Said My Theory is Not a theory because YOU called it a theory.I cannot PROVE Gods Existance on You tube anymore then you Can PROVE Evolution is Fact here on You tube.The Best you can do is give me a fed peices of evidence which I am sure will not be PROOF.I am A bit tired of Atheists saying FACT and not PROVING Yet Demanding PROOF for God on You tube when I have said, Call me and I will prove
@abeeftec The existence of a transcendent deity and the biological implications of evolution are not related.. Sir, I don't understand why you're trying to pass the torch. The floor is yours, I gave you your soapbox. There's no need to argue that atheists can't "prove" evolution as fact. Frankly, that's irrelevant to my question. Is it possible to prove the existence of God, and if so, do you have the capability?
@jwdogg1551 There's no need to argue that atheists can't "prove" evolution as fact. Frankly, that's irrelevant to my question. Is it possible to prove the existence of God, and if so, do you have the capability?
1. You didnt read my response.
2. Frankly that is why I am here. I saw Atheists challenging Theists to prove God exists. Of which I believe I can.
And in the same way they were saying Evolution is FACT. I asked them to do the same. They have failed and said I just am denying it.
@jwdogg1551 Part 2. THE bottom line here has been this,If I give an alternative to an evidence for evolution,they dont tell me why I am wrong, they just call me stupid.And if I give an evidence for God they never give an alternative but STILL just call me stupid.But I give alternatives to evolutions evidences and say WHY its valid.Yet they just seem to be able to call me STUPID but never say anything valid or WHY im wrong.I am left to think they are here to argue and dont know much of NEthing
@jwdogg1551 Part 3 I have offered to prove the existance of God through a Phone conversation. God was proven to me over a period of years of searching. I did NOT go easy. Now, I beleive anything PROVABLE works the same way. But so far, No one has been able to give a reason why my alternative thinking is WRONG. Saying I am STUPID is NOT an answer. in fact, its a cop out. It proves they had no business talking in the first place. I require HARD facts not evidence that is weak and speculation.
@pieter292 Its funny, thats ALL YOU GOT!! Insults! Its funny, you think because you curse a little bit and call someone stupid while making sure you get your you' ares correct in your writting that makes you look good so your words mean more. And then you talk about my Caps! I do that because I KNOW it bothers people!! Why does it have to bother them? And why would you have to start shit about something you dont know of?
can you tell me WHY Im Stupid? And actually, Hes an EVERYWHERE GOD.
@Xamaza IF THIS WORLD, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, Goes past 2100 AD I would say God is a Bit late maybe, Looking at the Book of Mathew is another interesting prophesy brought up that actually spans from the Beginning of the Book. It states that Isreal would be the ONLY nation in the history of the WORLD EVER that lost their Nationship, Flag gone, Other people inhabiting the land. And then would become a state again after nearly 1800 years of being scattered. They are THE ONLY nation EVER 2 Do that!
@Xamaza it is NOT anonomously written as is suggested on the internet. It is just unknown. However, It is in tune with the other three Gospels and guess what, Contrary to popular Atheist belief, There are NO contradtions in any of them! Bring the supposed ones and I will prove they are not contradictory to you.
And when I do, YOU WILL SEE that I am correct and your belief system is Flawed.
I knew you didnt care, I know atheists need a purpose like everyone else. And they come here for that
@abeeftec - "There are NO contradtions in any of them" - Lk 16.16, Jesus rejects the laws. Mt 5.17, he supports them. Rom 6.14, rejected. Mt 19.17, supported. Mt 19.18-19, doesn't know his Commandments. Mt 11:29, Jesus is meek and lowly, yet Mt 12.42, Jesus says he is greater than Solomon!
Two absurd "genealogies" of Jesus are given; they do not match (and one goes back to the fairy-tale character "Adam"!).
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@gekritzl You dont know what you are talking about. He doesnt EVER Reject the Law! He was the FULLFILLMENT of the Law! You just dont understand anything about the law. READ HEBREWS for Balance. Shesh I thought maybe you would have brought hard Contradictions. Not things you needed to read more then the scripture you quoted. The NT explains Things and they were hard sayings. people didnt understand them. You still dont. Thats not a bible issue. its a YOU issue. Genealogies R SUPPOSED TO BE DIFF
@abeeftec - Sorry, WRONG - The N.T. REJECTS the law: "The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it" (Lk 16:16)
And: "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." (Rom 6:14)
And, Jesus also contradicts himself, accepting/fulfilling the law, in other verses I had shown you.
The Bible contradicts itself at every turn -- which part is "right" or "true"??
@Xamaza - "Who is the author of the book of Mathew?" - you mean "The Gospel According to Saint Matthew"? You and I both know, it wasn't "Matthew"! Some credulous schmuck (or huckster) probably around 140 CE (although Christians will try to tell us it was much earlier). At any rate, you and I know it was forged by some anonymous author. I'm sure abeeftec does not realize (or recognize) this.
OH and your VERSE about the UNICORN is ALSO rendered OX in other versions....... YOU JUST CHOOSE a VERSION TO FIT WHATEVER SLANT YOU WANT TO PUT ON IT!! Thats why I go back to the original language with all its tenses included!! That way there is NO MISTAKING what it says IF you also understand the HISTORY AND CUSTOMS of the TIMES THOSE THINGS WERE WRITTEN. If you do NOT have those things, Plus the Spirit leading you YOU DONT GET TRUTH. Sorry but It is hidden to the WISE in their OWN CONCEITS
@abeeftec I always read the king james version growing up so yes, that is what I based my understanding on since thats what i had... Do you speak aramaic? If so I would love a reading! You are claiming im being biased because I dont speak latin or greek or aramaic and used what i had on me, my bad... I see where i wrnt wrong.
So without the bible, prove god exists and he create man. Go.
@Xamaza there you go again trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I SPEAK those languages. I study them for MEANING and ORDER. I am claiming you have Bias because you start out dismissing it without incident. We are in a time what the Bible describes as A GREAT FALLING AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. And the Churches are NOT THE CHUCH! They are a LIE! And they dont care about Abolute truth. they care about what they think! And A true believer knows INSIDE its not about HIM or what he thinks!
@Xamaza Actually Christains in the past when they have been wrong have conceeded on the things they needed to. But to you that is science just proving Christains WRONG TOTALLY on EVERYTHING. Instead of Science showing MANKIND things as a whole. It is changed into SCIENCE PROVING GOD WRONG Because CHRISTAINS thought this or that. So your point is mute really. I dont need to find a way to believe in something that is UNSUBSTANTIATED Just because it has a bunch of ppl who believe it without merit
@Xamaza part 2 The Bible is NOT unsubstantiated.I have seen the facts surrounding its truth.I have yet to see plausible evidence that Ultimately PROVES Evolution.I see people trying to SAY this peice of evidence proves it. But when I look at that evidence I see clear Alternatives to what it means. And as long as I can see an alternative to a piece of Evidence and NO1 explains why my alternative is not a Good 1 but just insults,I have no reason To conceed Evolution is FACT.I know why they insult
@Xamaza And you will just LIE about it when it is speculated that its true and call it true just like you do with the evolution now. WIth a severe lack of evidence to support it, You take OLDER evidences and cram them all together and call that ENOUGH PROOF when it is NOT proof at all. I dont care what you understand. Those things will never prove we evolved. I love how you all try to speak about things most people know nothing about as HOW YOU PROVED IT. But no one ever says HOW.
@abeeftec You want direct proof from a Christian Evolution is true? Fucking search KEN MILLER oh wait here let me give it to you: watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk then put youtube .com / then watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk DIRECT bro. Not beating around the bush, not telling you to search, THERE. See how EASY that is????
I don't get the: "we must see the backs of our fathers when they die, and with God you will never see such a thing. Thats hideous" And then says: My kids don't want me to die but it would be hideous to have me around them indefinitely. sure he didn't explain that as he does for some few other things.
What is more majestic than to have our loved ones with us if we could choose to have them. But that to Richard is a bad thing. i dont see how that is bad.
@daniloorbolato He says that god is a horrible parody of fatherhood. The reason being is that a father's job is to raise and protect his children so that they may live and someday take his place having more than he had. God is a father who never dies and lives to see his children die, never seeing his children take his place nor having more than he has. That is the horrible parody of which Christopher is talking about.
I CHALLENGE ANY EVOLUTIONIST TO PROVE EVOLUTION IS A FACT! Sorry, Cant do it! Then you need to stop saying it is FACT, or you need to stop telling Christains to PROVE GOD EXISTS in 500 characters or less! The number one reason you need to stop saying evolution is fact, Because EVEN DAWKINS CANT SAY ITS FACT! And if you dont know by your own studies then saying its fact and not proving it is just LIP SERVICE!
well, that's a retarded question for pussies. Next.
14ByTheSword 2 days ago
Christopher was as good as his world. His children were at his funeral. He never judged them or made them feel bad about themselves. never pressured them with impossible-to-live-up-to ideals. He was a man who stood by his convictions without hiding behind a god he never met. he was 1000 X the man that any Christian man is, following what you have been taught like good little boys without question.
greggb777 2 days ago
Christopher Hitchens was really sincere here.
gwangjuboy1 3 days ago
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Proverbs 8:36:
"...but he who fails to find me injures himself; all who hate me love death.”
sexyeur 1 week ago
Primate order sorry...we're all primates
rightnearthebeachboy 1 week ago 4
@sexyeur one day when you take a middle school biology class you'll learn we are in the primate family. And monkeys are a completely different family, genus and specie. Idiot
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@rightnearthebeachboy Remember that biology is not theology, and never should be confused as such. You're not just an animal. Your soul lives forever. Consider prophecy as well. God intervenes in history and predicts so that you will know He is and that you don't have to 'look' for Him in the bottle of your beaker as if you really intended to find the Maker of all things there. Open your mind and your heart. God wants you to change the way you think and act, toward Him and others. Amen.
sexyeur 1 week ago
@sexyeur man, I'm really sorry to say this but, you're slowing down evolution. If you don't consider humans to be a type of animal then you're lost in a world thats flying past you at an incredible rate. In 1000 years i bet christianity will be less than 50% of the USA. Science and reason will take the reins on the future. Also if god wanted me to change the way I think, and made me so I'd never change, then thats a bit evil huh?
rightnearthebeachboy 1 week ago 3
So today I told my fellow class mates all in religion they said that girl all the stuff she went threw was a "test" of her faith. I couldn't help but laugh in my mind (I'm a highscool freshmen soo)
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Imagine how nontheists would judge a beauty pageant, in the way they judge the LORD's faith: Their attitude would be 'There can be NO Miss USA!!!'—unless of course they could sodomize her first!!
Truth told!!! Atheism is a haven for FAGS.
sexyeur 1 week ago
Hitchens you are missed.
If you in 2012 can believe in religion - you are, i'm sorry to say - very very stupid.
And knowing, that had you been raised in the middle east, you would have all of the same feelings and beliefs about allah and muhammed - can't you see it is mumbo-jumbo???
A talking snake, a boat with millions if animals, a virgin giving birth to a boy who later became a zombie.
Religion is proof that humans are NOT the mist intelligent on this little blue ball.
sjatox 2 weeks ago 13
The utter arogance of tiranny :D
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@PaulAll1313 "lusting for your punishment"
but ur petulant provocation is so deserving sayn u don't feel 'loved' by a christian who merely convicts you of your petty sin! Ud require kid gloves when a slap would do & You *love* to judge Christians from your panzy moral high ground using God against them like the real hypocrite you are. Jesus hated you. He say u try holding the keys to His own kingdom while u yourself won't enter in, standing there preventing all others who would! Yes, FEAR HIM!
sexyeur 2 weeks ago
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@PaulAll1313 Paul, you don't realize you're already on your way to hell all by yourself. Christians weren't made so you could piss on them at your convenience. You have to born again to really understand what a Christian should do, like hating evil, wherever you find it. You say "I am not wrong" and Jesus will tell you "Therefore your sin remains!" God is holy. Not you. He's not here to demand your vain glory you avail of Him for yourself. He's here demanding His own glory He you owe Him.
sexyeur 2 weeks ago
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There is no peace for the wicked, says the LORD. Fear God Who has the power to throw you in hell. or just go to hell and leave Christians alone you sad mferz!
sexyeur 2 weeks ago
@sexyeur Fine. We'll leave you Christians alone. Only if you leave us, the gays, and other religions alone.
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@PaulAll1313 Just know you're going to a literal hell and there burning painfully you'll never have to deal with God or another Christian ever again que te vayas mas bien in su infierno, eh? You will have damned yourself, even forewarned.
And now for the fine question you love to hate...What if you're wrong? ;) :) :) :) I want you wickedly unrepentant to burn. You don't deserve a loving God or the dignity we humans enjoy because you're dumb like the ox leading himself to the slaughter. Snap!
sexyeur 2 weeks ago
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@sexyeur How christian of you to judge me and condemn me to hell. I thought that was your god's job to do so and it was a sin for you to do so?
I am not wrong. I don't have a list of failed prophecies and human suffering to account for with my words.
By your lusting for my suffering, you have proven me right in my assumption that you are a bunch of racist, homophobes that need some unseen magical being to hide to behind so you can justify spewing venom and wishing harm upon others.
PaulAll1313 2 weeks ago
@sexyeur You do your religion disservice with your hate speech. God gave us free will to choose him or not, because he loves us. If you are truly a follower of Christ, then you must afford your fellow man that same free will and love him as Christ loves him. He may disagree, he may do so in ways you feel are inflammatory, but all you can do is spread the good news of Jesus Christ and love your fellow man. Nothing about preaching your desire that he face hellfire conveys love at all.
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@zeperx "your fellow man"
but you're not a man! You're a cowardly self-confessed fuqn monkey w/out the morals a Man would be! If you won't hear the truth, well then maybe we can slap into you. But no one told you pigs to mislead others as "morals" you damned Hypocrite. Y'know Scriptures say the slap of a Friend can be trusted! Wow, huh?! Consider how apropos that just might be, in your case as well, eh? Our 'religion' tell us to tell others. Yours should say nothing!!! Be silent you hypocrite!!
sexyeur 1 week ago
@sexyeur Never mind, I thought I might have been speaking to another human being. I was wrong to expect you to listen to reason or even to adhere to the standards set by the religion you claim to follow. That you are a Christian at all is in question. You can quote scripture, but you cherry pick - and you do that badly, I might add. Carry on.
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@zeperx you're not a human being. you're a fuqn monkey remember? Even Jefferson wasn't as fuqtup as you are he said "we're endowed by our Creator"! WTF does that make you??? stfu you petulant fag!!! Christianity is for human beings—who acknowledge a higher power. since you don't, what's it to you???? FAG!
sexyeur 1 week ago
@sexyeur coolstorybro
zeperx 1 week ago
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@zeperx apologies. you're no monkey. forgive me for your science which insists that nothing matters because that's all we can be. I wonder why the laws of the universe do not evolve. Why don't people weigh more on some days than others? Seems remarkably structured and designed. it's amazing but your religion of scientism suggests nothing and no one is special, even that love is nothing when most know it's all that really matters. God is love. Not science.
sexyeur 1 week ago
@sexyeur God is love, huh? Well, if there is a god, I can tell he is not with you.
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@zeperx I am not God—I'm a work in progress—even if you'd expect me to be. Humanists think there is no God, because they want to be their own god. That's what Satan wanted to and he was cast down from heaven like lightning falls from the sky. You shouldn't wonder 'if' there's a God. He is. We don't have to guess. God has spoken in prophecy but if you're not interested to know He'll deny you in heaven as well. Don't let unfettered petulance and blind skepticism rule your heart and mind. Love Him.
sexyeur 1 week ago
@sexyeur FYI, the human body fluctuates in weight on average 1.5 kg during the period of one day. God is not God because God is not anything. God is not love, love is love therefore you do not need to pollute your mind with hysterical nonsense (polite way of saying fucking bullshit lies), made up by nomads over 2000 years ago in order to love fully and wholly (not holy). Clear out the fairy tales that you feel you must consider in order to love and simply love all by yourself, its best.
vaiboy55 1 week ago 4
@PaulAll1313 Oh God.
MrVirtualCoder 2 weeks ago
@sexyeur - "There is no peace for the wicked... Fear God Who has the power to throw you in hel.l"
If this is what religion does to your mind -- turns you into a sick, twisted, paranoid delusional lunatic -- then I think I'll stick with rational explanations for nature, and discard your magical book of fairy tales.
TownCryo 5 days ago 2
@TownCryo "no peace"
James advises: "Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters. Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. He chose to give us birth through the word of truth...human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires. Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you."
It's sound advice.
sexyeur 20 hours ago
@sexyeur - I don't care about your magical book of fairy tales, "angels," and sky-daddies. Read a REAL book for yourself. Science, history, philosophy. Clear and free your mind from ancient ignorant dogma.
It's sound advice.
TownCryo 20 hours ago
@TownCryo "I don't care.."
Obviously, and so apropos then, Proverbs 27:22:
If you crush a stubborn fool in a mortar with a pestle along with grain, [even then] his stupidity will not leave him.—GOD'S WORD
And also Jeremiah 13:23:
Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.—NIV
sexyeur 3 hours ago
R.I.P. Christopher HItchens. The world has lost a great warrior of truth.
jaaammieee 3 weeks ago 19
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
NICH0LASM 3 weeks ago
Religious people believe in zombies, idiots.
SirGrowalott 1 month ago 18
RIP Hitch. You will be sorely missed for your intellectual capability and sensible moral reasoning and ethics.
mikeyman2010 1 month ago 27
I'm just discovering "Hitch" since he passed away and found this clip astonishingly lucid and persuasive. Deeply impressed.
D1rtyraver 1 month ago 20
He came , he saw, he Hitch slapped stupidity. R.I.P Hitch..
kaxitaksi 1 month ago 12
RIP
Tom87893010 1 month ago 12
RIP Mr Hitchens. The world's a worse place without you :(
monkeykingeater 1 month ago 15
Even though WLC didn't get an airing in this clip i just know that the mighty Hitch will have pwned him.
pilgrimpater 1 month ago 4
He came. He saw. He kicked their asses.
JoeLaTurkeyIII 1 month ago in playlist Symphony of Science 4
I've never understood how people extract "hope" and "dignity" from religion, let alone Christianity. If anything, it teaches you the polar opposite: that unless you flagellate yourself and your fellow man in the name of your mystical djinn of choice (and I use the word "choice" very loosely) do you get to experience an afterlife of sunshine, unicorns and double rainbows. Then again, this is William Lane Craig we're talking about, so yeah...
zawarudowryyyyyy 1 month ago 3
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This guy is a fool but has a very articulate & clever way of cloaking it as knowledge !
GeneticallySuperior1 1 month ago
@GeneticallySuperior1 There are plenty of fools who are articulate but you still know they're fools, Hichens isn't one of them. Just because you don't understand what he's saying it doesn't make him a fool.
rockermanmatt 1 month ago 4
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@rockermanmatt HAJAHAJA You really believe i don't understand what he's saying? It looks like the joke is on you fool.
GeneticallySuperior1 1 month ago
@GeneticallySuperior1 Yes, you really don't understand what he's saying. Get a life and stop trolling.
rockermanmatt 1 month ago 3
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@rockermanmatt where do idiots like yourself come from? I made a very simple comment & you just HAD to write me & let me know how much i get on your nerves!! It's evidence to your input that you have no idea what hitchens or I are even talking about. I think YOU need to stop trolling & visit a site that you can actually comprehend.. Thankyou for the laugh...
GeneticallySuperior1 1 month ago
@GeneticallySuperior1 Like I said, stop trolling. It's just pathetic.
rockermanmatt 1 month ago 3
@rockermanmatt Your the troller you fucktard! I made "1" single comment in regards to this video & it wasn't inappropriate at AT ALL! Then suddenly "rockermanmatt the retard" comes along & decides to walk on my commentary! HMMM~ Who's the troller you fucking idiot? Think about this shit before you open your stupid mouth! JEEEEEESH! Fucking idiots everywhere.
GeneticallySuperior1 1 month ago
@GeneticallySuperior1 A troll is someone who posts inflammatory comments for no reason among other things. You are the very definition of a troll.
You clicked on a Christopher Hitchens video just to call him a fool and provoke a response, which you managed to do. I'll say it again, stop trolling and grow up. If you don't like him, don't click on him. Simple.
If you can't even respond without calling me a "fucktard" don't reply at all. Bye.
rockermanmatt 1 month ago 3
@GeneticallySuperior1 hahah whats the matter? you mad bro?
Malcom123X 1 month ago
Christianity is sweet and pleasant compared to Islam.
We - atheists - ought to place our attention more on vulgar ideology if Islam
HULLOHULLO15 2 months ago
That guy at the start does more harm to the Christian argument than Hitchens, lol!
Hitchens is the man though, antitheism is the way forward.
damvid21 2 months ago
The introductory comments must be the worst argument for theism around. Because some people are weak and gullible and without hope they should delude themselves into believing in things that do not exist? That is a grave insult to all religious people. And they dare call Atheists insulting.
mason72518 2 months ago
THE DUDE GOT HITCHSLAPED
dtsbmx 2 months ago
The religious are all afflicted with the same delusion, this delusion being a belief that they know what happens beyond death, though not a single human being on this planet does.
JeniusRetard 2 months ago 2
"Christianity has something to say for people who are not strong, who are not intelligent. For people who fall down."
That way of thinking makes Televangelist A LOT of money. The Church in general. Keep on being...
"not strong, not intelligent. And, falling down."
If that is what bring people solace?
Rocketryman 3 months ago
i feel sorry for the other panalists , they look in awe and fearful of hitchens even the ones on his side.
homan2329 3 months ago
Christopher Hitchens / Richard Dawkins / Matt Dillahunty are my fucking heroes!
I was a cunt at school and college but I really wish I had listened and learned more so I could sound half as intelligent as these guys and give almost as strong arguements against religion and for atheism!
bluffr22 3 months ago 6
@bluffr22 I feel ya there
randy9121 2 months ago
@bluffr22 sam harris
IbsaUtube 2 months ago
@bluffr22 It is never to late to learn, besides if you were accepted at university you could not have
preformed that badly in school and furthermore you probably have a habit of reading books which
helps, I have actually spoken to people that proudly claims that they have not read a book since
school, I pity those. in debates it is important to handle the language and even if you onlý read
fiction it is a great help for that kind of skill.
MultiKronblom 2 months ago
" I believe because I am too weak not to." Nice!
shabido1 3 months ago
He didn't really answer the question: What does anti-theism have to offer to the downtrodden? He convincingly argued against monotheism, but did not argue convincingly in favor of his own position.
GHcool 3 months ago
"Christianity has something to say for people who are not strong, who are not intelligent. For people who fall down." - Craig.
Very well said. In other words "If you are easily brainwashed, who can't for himself/herself think for oneself, easily swayed by words made by people 2000 years ago. People who can be very arrogant through ignorance. Welcome to CHRISTIANITY! "
Emarquez1896 3 months ago 44
@Emarquez1896 that wasn't Craig
IbsaUtube 2 months ago
@IbsaUtube my bad. but i call people who i don't know who asked question like that and then replied by Hitchens beautifully "Craig". JK my bad.
Emarquez1896 2 months ago
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@Emarquez1896 don't you just love it when an obvious fool speaks so frivolously for the Word of Truth like he's been a disappointed bible scholar all his life? The fool thinks his attitude alone mastered Hebrew & Greek & hermeneutics & eschatology and suddenly somehow he finds he's "weak" only bc it never happened. & so he wisely advises "people can be very arrogant" (and here's the real kicker!) through ignorance" LOL ;) It's as if he's impressed he learned to whistle out his ass.
sexyeur 2 weeks ago
@Emarquez1896 Well said.
enos218 2 weeks ago
@Emarquez1896 Christianity is clearly 'for' the strong. Look at politics today. Who behaves in a social Darwinian manner? The Christians and their 'free' market masters of course! Christianity was adopted not by the meek but by the warrior caste. All religions are the same in that respect. The healthy and strong can more easily delude themselves that god has a plan for them and is all good.
MinisterAilingTongue 2 weeks ago
@MinisterAilingTongue You've got a point. But I would say that Christianity is 'by' those who are strong 'for' the weak. If God is powerful over the people, then the people who controls God controls the rest.
Emarquez1896 1 week ago
@Emarquez1896 It might be pretty cool to have one or more powerful, benevolent beings giving advice and aid to us misguided primates. Unfortunately it looks like we're completely on our own. They might be out there. One/many may have even presided somehow over the cosmic kick off. Who knows? We don't. I'm an atheist in that I reject the truth of (man made) religions and their claims concerning god(s). We humans are our only hope. Thus we must be guided by reason and compassion sans superstition.
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
Is it not terribly patronizing to say that Christians are too weak and too stupid to find consolation somewhere other than a divine fairy-tale? I think that's why many atheists are so militant. Because we believe everyone has the ability to be intelligent and strong enough to stand alone in the universe rather than be slaves to a fairy-tale.
proprodigySD 3 months ago
Believer! Actually christian is another word for Brainwashed. Or any other religion.
Mzungu64 3 months ago 12
What the hell was that second to last picture in this video?
ManDudeYeah 3 months ago
@ManDudeYeah i think it's him in iraq
redryan20000 3 months ago
@abeeftec - you said "I have offered to prove the existance [SIC] of God…" - why are you wasting your time HERE then? Submit your proof to a peer-reviewed journal, WIN the Nobel prize in Science, and you'll get $1.5 million, and you will change the world. What are you waiting for? YOU and YOU ALONE can "prove" God's existence!!! GO FOR IT!
geneolune 3 months ago 39
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@geneolune tsk...no wonder Abraham replied to the man burning in hell begging from great pain for even a drop of water that never came, when all he wanted to do was to warn his brothers not to go there..."even if one were to rise from the dead, they wouldn't believe it..." so ingrained is their utterly damning stupidity hidden in their unceasing deceit. They merit their finer places in hell, all by themselves!!! Read it and weep, geneolune. "GO FOR IT!"
sexyeur 2 weeks ago
@geneolune Your comment made my day lol, very funny indeed. Thank you!
vaiboy55 1 week ago 3
Hitchens... Obviously displayed alot of class here with the moderator.
GB0318 3 months ago
you i know fuck it I dont care anymore. Believe your nonsense if helps you get through the day, but please dont fucking vote to restrict my rights based on your beliefs adn I dont care if you want to be delusional. I just care, remain willfully ignorant of science, I just dont care anymore.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza actually You saying FUCK IT shows me that you just DONT WANT TO BELEIVE THE BIBLE. And when you see all my EVIDENCE you cannot deny it. And therefore you run from it and Go back to your proverbial hamster wheel and run on it going nowhere. You are the one WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I dont believe I have a Chained will. It is YOU who has the Chained will here. I can CHOOSE to live for God or not. You are NOT CAPABLE of living in the truth therefore you are CHAINED TO A LIE. Its not about CARE
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec You see I dont have to have faith in evolution, and even if I were not believe in evolution that would not change the fact that it is true.
abiogenesis is not confirmed - yet - but we are working on it.
I do understand DNA, protein chains, biochemistry and and reactionary science. If you did, you might understand why we laugh at people that argue against evolution without evidence as we do people that claim the earth is 6,000 years old and or think the world is flat.
Xamaza 4 months ago 2
@Xamaza "You see I dont have to have faith in evolution, and even if I were not believe in evolution that would not change the fact that it is true." Actually you do Have faith in evolution. And for the rest of your message under that statement I will NOT comment because YOU OBVIOUSLY mistake me for Christains you have spoken to in the past! Remember what you said about" ALL ATHEISTS?" Well, Same goes for you!!
I CAN prove God Exists, But I CANNOT do it in a you tube post!!
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec I have read the evidence, seen the fossils, had DNA explained and read papers on genetic markers.
We use that to convict people of crimes here, you know DNA, and our understanding of genetics is just another piece of the puzzle.
Xamaza 4 months ago
@Xamaza If you think that a person NOT of faith proved the world was ROUND you are again mistaken! It was A CHRISTAIN who Sailed the Sea to PROVE IT. And those who claim the earth is 6000 years old mistake the existance of PEOPLE AND the space of Time between Scriptures with The EARTH AGE which is FAR different. They are TRYING to honor what they THINK the bible says but it DOES NOT SAY IT. The 6000 years is what is determined APPROXIMATELY on a LOST people! NOT earths AGE.
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Well at least we agree on the TIME SCALE AGE of the earth, which is the foundation of evolution. At least we can agree on that...
Xamaza 4 months ago
@Xamaza I am NOT a stupid Christain who assumes anything.And I am TELLING you that there IS a distinct difference, a line between FACT and built up evidences.Evidence does NOT indicate FACT. It indicates EVIDENCE,You need to determine if the evidence is CIRCUMSTANTIAL or Is it Aevidentail! Meaning, Could go either way. If you have some Evidence for evolution that is NOT either of those but BULLET PROOF,I would love to hear it,But first conclude that what you have shown so far is aevidentail
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec I dont think I ever called you a stupid christian, but misguided and ignorant, but that is nothing to be ashamed up, we are all born ignorant...
Police would argue against that. We use evidence and try to inturpret the data the best way possible. As such, science does the same thing that is why we rely on science to make sense of things in the natural world.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza Misguided and Ignorant? And since you cannot prove that I am ignorant, And you have already skated around the dawkins issue, I would say you calling me ignorant is just an attempt at some sort of 1 up on me here. The fact is, I think your blind and cant see because you refuse to check into these things with an UNBIASED mInd. I spent years looking into this. I am sure I am older then you are. And believe this, I gave Christains just as hard a time as U but FOR YEARS!!
abeeftec 4 months ago
@Xamaza what I do know is that the PEICES of the PUZZLE FIT TWO THEORIES. And you say they are FACTS for evolution and Christains say they are FACTS FOR GOD. So how do we rectify this problem? Should we just say they are BOTH LOONIES? Because I dont think there are NO rational people before the atheist movement and most beleived in God even if they didnt adhere to his principles. Putting their hand on the bible would cause most to thell the truth. Which is sacreligious really and means nothing
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec The difference is, science will concede when it is proven wrong and adjust itself to be inline with what is true if that is what the evidence says.
Have you heard the term argument from ignorance? There are MANY christians that believe in science, evolution and STILL Believe in god bro. They are not mutually exclusive. You need to find a way to believe in both.
Xamaza 4 months ago
@Xamaza Actually evolution was said,Long ago when Darwin started the theory, That the only thing that will cause evoluion to go from theory to Fact is the missing link, That is why there are JOKES about "the missing Link" Yet, Since the dawn of the Atheist movement a little less then 20 years ago, Evolution all of a sudden was picked back up and ran a different route and soon after HUMAN ORIGINS WAS REMOVED And MICRO and MACRO evolution was born. So spread FACT all you want, But Its NOT
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec I dont care what you call it, its still evolution, micro macro, pfft w/e same thing.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza "I dont care what you call it, its still evolution, micro macro, pfft w/e same thing."
Actually Micro is the SMALLER scale of evolution, You know, Your mutations and such, Which they can THEN call something FACT with the Word EVOLUTION involved. Then they spread that across news and other resources to people like you who hear them say ITS FACT, when they are talking of MICRO and you all do the rest of the work convincing people MACRO is fact! and its NOT
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec wait let me get this right, you agree with MICRO evolution but you dont agree with MACRO evolution?
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza " wait let me get this right, you agree with MICRO evolution but you dont agree with MACRO evolution?"
I agree with that which can be PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. That is what I agree with and that is ALL i agree with. And I ALSO think that taking two things we knew about when Evolution was NOT FACT, And SHOVING them in a BAG Called EVOLUTION is IRRESPONSIBLE. And I am sorry but that is EXACTLY what they did with those TWO Things. ADAPTATION AND MUTATION.
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Actually evolution is the change over time and HOW it changes is variation, mutation and adaptation.
Richard dawkings does explain this well. You are standing at hte base of a mountain and looking up and cant see how we can say we started at hte bottem and jumped straight up to the top, however if you walk around the side and take small gradual steps you can reach the top with ease.
That is all evolution ever said. Baby steps over long periods of time. Micro is macro.
Xamaza 4 months ago 3
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@Xamaza Do you realize that Dawkins is one of the perpetrators of the LIE!And He argues persuasivly to those who already beleive in Evolution!You say that evolution doesnt take faith.Well, It does because its NOT proven. Micro does NOT prove Macro.And You know it doesnt. I am not one who hasnt looked CLOSLY because I benifit in THIS LIFE is Evolution is TRUE And GOD IS NOT.So please spare me the I dont understand crap and all the other nonsense that you charge me with.I am LESS Biased them U
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@Xamaza THERE IS NO BOOK IN THE BIBLE OLDER THEN JOB! And He talks about the WORLD BEING ROUND by speaking OF Pleadies and Orion. And how the EARTH IS A SPHERE.
So those who think the world being found to be round came from SCIENCE you ARE DEAD WRONG.
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec mkay thats nice, how come jesus didnt talk about genetics? How come nuclear fission isnt mentioned?
Electricity? Steam power? Vaccines? Viruses? How come they didnt realize the sun was a star as well as all the other pretty lights in the night sky? God didnt think that important I guess?
Xamaza 4 months ago 2
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@Xamaza because Jesus came to do the Will of the Father. And sorry but there are MANY things in the Bible that were Written under the Guise of, I WRITE THESE THINGS UNTO YOU BEFORE THEY COME TO PASS, SO THAT WHEN THEY DO COME TO PASS, YOU MIGHT BELIEVE!
And I hate to break it to you but the Bible says in the last days Man shall be as Lightning in the Sky. Man has BROKEN THE SOUND BARRIER which is what it was Refering to!. Lightning BREAKS THE SOUND BARRIER!
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Yep you have gone full retard. We broke the sound barrier a while back. But cool story bro.
So again what proof do you have that god exists. I do not believe anything the bible says at all. Zero. Stop using it, I dont care.
Xamaza 4 months ago 7
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@Xamaza Do you just pull stuff out of your ass to say? Of COURSE we Broke the sound barrier Long ago, BUT IT WAS IN THE BIBLE LONG BEFORE IT WAS DONE!! The fact that you would say We Broke the sound barrrier long ago sound like you are saying we broke it before the Bible was written! And you call me Full retard?
Come on man, I think you lack the ability to reason ANYTHING. And the only way you know anything is that SOMEONE TELLS YOU what to beleive. You cannot deny that one pal. NO WAY
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec You know what would have been a REAL prophecy? explaining HOW we were going to break the sound barrier.
Something that no one could possibly know. Your claims of men as lightning means nothing to me. at all.
You are asking me to be reasonable, but you still havent proven god exists in the first place, all you have proven is that YOU BELIEVE he exists. Which was never in question...
Xamaza 4 months ago 3
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@Xamaza You know what was REALLY PROPHETIC ABOUT IT?? That they didnt even CONSIDER A SOUND BARRIER Because they were NOT scientists! YET they speak of things Science has FOUND OUT in ways common to them, Which is what you can expect from people looking into the future and not having words for what they see! I dont just BELIEVE he exists HE DOES. And if you dont believe he does, Then you are FOOLISH. Because even that which is in the healthcare Bill was spoken about in the BIBLE.
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@Xamaza please tell me what ELSE the writter of that SCRIPTURE Could have MEANT when he said, " In the DAY OF HIS PREPARATION MAN SHALL BE AS LIGHTNING IN THE SKIES" What could He POSSIBLY had meant,Since he was speaking about things that would happen AFAR OFF from the time that they were WRITTING THAT SCRITURE as Evidenced with the A part of the scripture which says... IN THE DAY OF HIS PREPARATION Which the term is ONLY used in regards to the END OF TIME.
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec I dunno can you explain the meaning of poems? Or Music? does that mean it has to mean what YOU claim it to be? Pfft w/e kid.
Again, if it had been Specific, about something they didnt know, like oh I dunno, that lightning creates antimatter, that would be interesting. but what you have isnt. You sound like raving lunatic, nothing more and will convince few others unless tehy are mentally unstable.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza Why do you think that you people are smarter then christains? I mean, Have you once saw me say PFFT KID , Everytime I say something you have no legitimate response for you make light of it in some weird way of speak condesendingly toward me. Is rather boring to watch you atheists do this.
Science is not EVERYTHING. And since you try to MAKE it everything you WORSHIP IT. Did you know that EVERYONE is given a MEASURE of faith and you can place that where ever you WANT TO! you choose S
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@Xamaza Why do you think that you people are smarter then christains? I mean, Have you once saw me say PFFT KID , Everytime I say something you have no legitimate response for you make light of it in some weird way of speak condesendingly toward me. Is rather boring to watch you atheists do this.
Science is not EVERYTHING. And since you try to MAKE it everything you WORSHIP IT. Did you know that EVERYONE is given a MEASURE of faith and you can place that where ever you WANT TO! you choose S
abeeftec 4 months ago
@Xamaza And you want me to NOT use the Bible? Then you stop using Science to prove evolution!
you see,If I was using the BIBLE to prove the BIBLE it would be different.But I am USING EVENTS have were FORTOLD BEFORE THEY HAPPENED. Which YOU cannot claim for evolution so I am sorry but my method is MORE ACCURATE THEN YOURS.Also, Cars were Prophesied about in Nahum. TELEVISION in Revelation. on and on it goes! Airplanes. The Sudden SURGE in Technology! Its all there pal. But you wouldnt know
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Science is based on evidence, reason and intellect. Your book of fables != fact. Word of mouth stories passed down for generations != fact. The great thing about science is believing it doesnt matter.
Xamaza 4 months ago 2
@Xamaza So let me ask you,Why is it then,That when you speak of Evolution I dont insult you nor do I call you names,But I give you an ALTERNATIVE to what you say is FACT FOR EVOLUTION.YET whenever I say something about the Bible, Instead of giving an alternative you resort to name calling, insults, taking digs at the bible.Why not just admit it is NOT you who is using reason nor intellect but it is I who is using My intellect to show you science is NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.And never has been ALWAYS
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec I dont care if you do insult me, I have thick skin and dont mind.
Science is the philosophy of discovery, creationsim (intelligent design) is the philosophy of ignorance.
Your book is not about reason, logic or intellect. It is not based on evidence. If you understood what science does and how it works, you would understand the difference. You dont, so please reeducate yourself if needed, but ignore the holy book.
Xamaza 4 months ago 2
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@Xamaza Look I have some pretty thick skin myself, So who cares, The point was you cant just give a rebuttal without the nonsense. I dont have enough room in one post to insult you. Though sometimes I think its very necessary. My BOOK is ALL ABOUT REASON AND LOGIC AND INTELLECT! HOWEVER, It is your intellect and your Ego over your intellect, Yes your INFLATION of your own ego that hinders you from seeing the truth. Science can ALSO be wrong. Take e=mc2 For example. Just proven WRONG.
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@abeeftec you i know fuck it I dont care anymore. Believe your nonsense if helps you get through the day, but please dont fucking vote to restrict my rights based on your beliefs adn I dont care if you want to be delusional. I just care, remain willfully ignorant of science, I just dont care anymore.
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Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza Actually the bad thing about science is that sometimes it is WRONG but you dont see that very much because its not reported. TRIAL AND ERROR is the KEY to knowing that is true! But the ATHEIST movement calls Evolution FACT all around because they WANT GOD TO DISAPPEAR from MAN which can NEVER happen. So they Can EVOLVE to the next stage as if GOD is holding us BACK or something! I got news for you, According to the Bible, Its all almost OVER for the Human race on earth in his condition
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec sir, evolution doesnt say a fucking thing about god. Stop claiming it does. No one said it does.
Again, I dont care what you think the bible says so please save it.
I read science journals EVERY FUCKING DAY and when something changes omfg we get smarter. The bible doesnt change and DOESNT GIVE US INSIGHT INTO ANYTHING. IT doesnt lead to NEW science or NEW understanding. There is NOTHING to DISCOVER by reading your bible.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza haha, When did I say evolution says something about God? Are you losing it when just a few posts ago you said that religion was for the emotionally unstable? The Bible has more wisdom then you will EVER be able to figure out. It tells me Why you are even having this debate! Romans 1
IT tells me that you will NOT believe with that PRIDEFUL self serving heart or yours. There is TOO MUCH to discover by STUDY of the BIble because GOD IS ETERNAL. Sorry Science is NOT
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec still dont care. Prove god exists. Thanks.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza First you prove evolution is FACT with some Actual SOLID facts!Not the facts you have shown so far which are not FACTS at all.They are two things that happen with the Human Body that has been known about far longer then they were used as PROOF to say evolution is a Fact.Thats like saying, Well WE Know that there are nuts in some candybars,And that PROVES Chocolate causes mental retardation.They have NOTHING to do with each other! Its the same as WE know the HUMAN BODY ADAPTS Therefore
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Oh wait...I've just noticed you write SOME words in CAPITALS...oh maybe you're RIGHT then about the sky god chap.
pieter292 4 months ago 2
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abeeftec 4 months ago
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@pieter292 I really get tired of hearing worthless add ons to this issue. If you dont like my caps, dont read them! If you dont like what I said and dont understand it, ASK! (you probably wont be able to read the ask if you stopped reading my caps by now) But to come on here just to say,"Yer Stupit" Like a little kid is pointless. really, You had nothing better to do with those few moments then you tell me what you think about ME? Why not weigh in on the subject at hand? Where do you stand?
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@Xamaza And also, If you werent so lazy and NON CARING about your own life and the existance of God you can find out everything I know by research. BUt if you want God PROVED, All you need to do is go to my channel, Get my phone number, Call me and I will prove it. Noone has actually done that yet though I offer it to everyone I talk to. Funny how so many say they are not convinced but when it comes right down to it I prove ITS NOT ABOUT THEM NOT BELEIVING THERE IS A GOD. Its about EGO
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Dude, relax. Capital letters don't make your ideas any more convincing. And I'm glad you can prove God. You, sir, must be some sort of genius. Let's discount the struggles that the brightest minds have had since the beginning of human existence, because you have the factual proof. You really, really have to understand the burden of proof is on your end. Evolution is the best explanation for our origins. Your "theory" is an assumption. So please, relax, and think twice before you speak.
jwdogg1551 3 months ago 3
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@jwdogg1551 No need to waste you breath saying relax as if trying to make others think I am spastic when I am not. My THEORY is NOT a theory. Its a Fact. You must be getting God Confused with Evolution again! And you make your first mistake thinking the Brightest minds would know these things. The Bible is CLEAR God reveals truths to Babes and RESISTS the BRIGHTEST MINDS. And I dont care what you think about Caps being Spastic or yelling. I thought FAR MORE the twice before speaking smart guy
abeeftec 3 months ago
@abeeftec Sigh. Insults like "smart guy" don't help either. Why are your arguments so irate? I do concede that non-believers can be smug, arrogant, and self-righteous. Trust me, believers are as well. Let's argue without hostility. First, my THEORY is NOT a theory, is an oxymoron. Next, I wasn't trying to be insulting, just astounded that someone can "show" it. if you can now prove God's existence right here, right now, I'd be in your debt, and so would all of us. Please present your argument.
jwdogg1551 3 months ago 2
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@jwdogg1551 Very funny,Because thats All I get from Atheists is Smart ass answers and Insults.And I Said My Theory is Not a theory because YOU called it a theory.I cannot PROVE Gods Existance on You tube anymore then you Can PROVE Evolution is Fact here on You tube.The Best you can do is give me a fed peices of evidence which I am sure will not be PROOF.I am A bit tired of Atheists saying FACT and not PROVING Yet Demanding PROOF for God on You tube when I have said, Call me and I will prove
abeeftec 3 months ago
@abeeftec The existence of a transcendent deity and the biological implications of evolution are not related.. Sir, I don't understand why you're trying to pass the torch. The floor is yours, I gave you your soapbox. There's no need to argue that atheists can't "prove" evolution as fact. Frankly, that's irrelevant to my question. Is it possible to prove the existence of God, and if so, do you have the capability?
jwdogg1551 3 months ago 6
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@jwdogg1551 There's no need to argue that atheists can't "prove" evolution as fact. Frankly, that's irrelevant to my question. Is it possible to prove the existence of God, and if so, do you have the capability?
1. You didnt read my response.
2. Frankly that is why I am here. I saw Atheists challenging Theists to prove God exists. Of which I believe I can.
And in the same way they were saying Evolution is FACT. I asked them to do the same. They have failed and said I just am denying it.
abeeftec 3 months ago
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@jwdogg1551 Part 2. THE bottom line here has been this,If I give an alternative to an evidence for evolution,they dont tell me why I am wrong, they just call me stupid.And if I give an evidence for God they never give an alternative but STILL just call me stupid.But I give alternatives to evolutions evidences and say WHY its valid.Yet they just seem to be able to call me STUPID but never say anything valid or WHY im wrong.I am left to think they are here to argue and dont know much of NEthing
abeeftec 3 months ago
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@jwdogg1551 Part 3 I have offered to prove the existance of God through a Phone conversation. God was proven to me over a period of years of searching. I did NOT go easy. Now, I beleive anything PROVABLE works the same way. But so far, No one has been able to give a reason why my alternative thinking is WRONG. Saying I am STUPID is NOT an answer. in fact, its a cop out. It proves they had no business talking in the first place. I require HARD facts not evidence that is weak and speculation.
abeeftec 3 months ago
@abeeftec Does the progressive evolution of E-Coli bacteria over the course of just a few years count as "hard evidence"?
Or is there some other way you'll try to worm your way out of finally giving up and accepting that it's actually happening?
SeedsOfHatred 3 months ago 15
@abeeftec Fuck you're stupid...sorry nothing to do with me but it's sad
pieter292 4 months ago 2
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@pieter292 Its funny, thats ALL YOU GOT!! Insults! Its funny, you think because you curse a little bit and call someone stupid while making sure you get your you' ares correct in your writting that makes you look good so your words mean more. And then you talk about my Caps! I do that because I KNOW it bothers people!! Why does it have to bother them? And why would you have to start shit about something you dont know of?
can you tell me WHY Im Stupid? And actually, Hes an EVERYWHERE GOD.
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@Xamaza IF THIS WORLD, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, Goes past 2100 AD I would say God is a Bit late maybe, Looking at the Book of Mathew is another interesting prophesy brought up that actually spans from the Beginning of the Book. It states that Isreal would be the ONLY nation in the history of the WORLD EVER that lost their Nationship, Flag gone, Other people inhabiting the land. And then would become a state again after nearly 1800 years of being scattered. They are THE ONLY nation EVER 2 Do that!
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec Who is the author of the book of Mathew?
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza it is NOT anonomously written as is suggested on the internet. It is just unknown. However, It is in tune with the other three Gospels and guess what, Contrary to popular Atheist belief, There are NO contradtions in any of them! Bring the supposed ones and I will prove they are not contradictory to you.
And when I do, YOU WILL SEE that I am correct and your belief system is Flawed.
I knew you didnt care, I know atheists need a purpose like everyone else. And they come here for that
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec - "There are NO contradtions in any of them" - Lk 16.16, Jesus rejects the laws. Mt 5.17, he supports them. Rom 6.14, rejected. Mt 19.17, supported. Mt 19.18-19, doesn't know his Commandments. Mt 11:29, Jesus is meek and lowly, yet Mt 12.42, Jesus says he is greater than Solomon!
Two absurd "genealogies" of Jesus are given; they do not match (and one goes back to the fairy-tale character "Adam"!).
gekritzl 3 months ago 4
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@gekritzl You dont know what you are talking about. He doesnt EVER Reject the Law! He was the FULLFILLMENT of the Law! You just dont understand anything about the law. READ HEBREWS for Balance. Shesh I thought maybe you would have brought hard Contradictions. Not things you needed to read more then the scripture you quoted. The NT explains Things and they were hard sayings. people didnt understand them. You still dont. Thats not a bible issue. its a YOU issue. Genealogies R SUPPOSED TO BE DIFF
abeeftec 3 months ago
@abeeftec - Sorry, WRONG - The N.T. REJECTS the law: "The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it" (Lk 16:16)
And: "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." (Rom 6:14)
And, Jesus also contradicts himself, accepting/fulfilling the law, in other verses I had shown you.
The Bible contradicts itself at every turn -- which part is "right" or "true"??
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@Xamaza - "Who is the author of the book of Mathew?" - you mean "The Gospel According to Saint Matthew"? You and I both know, it wasn't "Matthew"! Some credulous schmuck (or huckster) probably around 140 CE (although Christians will try to tell us it was much earlier). At any rate, you and I know it was forged by some anonymous author. I'm sure abeeftec does not realize (or recognize) this.
gekritzl 3 months ago
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OH and your VERSE about the UNICORN is ALSO rendered OX in other versions....... YOU JUST CHOOSE a VERSION TO FIT WHATEVER SLANT YOU WANT TO PUT ON IT!! Thats why I go back to the original language with all its tenses included!! That way there is NO MISTAKING what it says IF you also understand the HISTORY AND CUSTOMS of the TIMES THOSE THINGS WERE WRITTEN. If you do NOT have those things, Plus the Spirit leading you YOU DONT GET TRUTH. Sorry but It is hidden to the WISE in their OWN CONCEITS
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec I always read the king james version growing up so yes, that is what I based my understanding on since thats what i had... Do you speak aramaic? If so I would love a reading! You are claiming im being biased because I dont speak latin or greek or aramaic and used what i had on me, my bad... I see where i wrnt wrong.
So without the bible, prove god exists and he create man. Go.
Xamaza 4 months ago
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@Xamaza there you go again trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I SPEAK those languages. I study them for MEANING and ORDER. I am claiming you have Bias because you start out dismissing it without incident. We are in a time what the Bible describes as A GREAT FALLING AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. And the Churches are NOT THE CHUCH! They are a LIE! And they dont care about Abolute truth. they care about what they think! And A true believer knows INSIDE its not about HIM or what he thinks!
abeeftec 4 months ago
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@Xamaza Actually Christains in the past when they have been wrong have conceeded on the things they needed to. But to you that is science just proving Christains WRONG TOTALLY on EVERYTHING. Instead of Science showing MANKIND things as a whole. It is changed into SCIENCE PROVING GOD WRONG Because CHRISTAINS thought this or that. So your point is mute really. I dont need to find a way to believe in something that is UNSUBSTANTIATED Just because it has a bunch of ppl who believe it without merit
abeeftec 3 months ago
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@Xamaza part 2 The Bible is NOT unsubstantiated.I have seen the facts surrounding its truth.I have yet to see plausible evidence that Ultimately PROVES Evolution.I see people trying to SAY this peice of evidence proves it. But when I look at that evidence I see clear Alternatives to what it means. And as long as I can see an alternative to a piece of Evidence and NO1 explains why my alternative is not a Good 1 but just insults,I have no reason To conceed Evolution is FACT.I know why they insult
abeeftec 3 months ago
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@Xamaza And you will just LIE about it when it is speculated that its true and call it true just like you do with the evolution now. WIth a severe lack of evidence to support it, You take OLDER evidences and cram them all together and call that ENOUGH PROOF when it is NOT proof at all. I dont care what you understand. Those things will never prove we evolved. I love how you all try to speak about things most people know nothing about as HOW YOU PROVED IT. But no one ever says HOW.
abeeftec 3 months ago
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abeeftec 4 months ago
Xamaza 4 months ago
I don't get the: "we must see the backs of our fathers when they die, and with God you will never see such a thing. Thats hideous" And then says: My kids don't want me to die but it would be hideous to have me around them indefinitely. sure he didn't explain that as he does for some few other things.
What is more majestic than to have our loved ones with us if we could choose to have them. But that to Richard is a bad thing. i dont see how that is bad.
daniloorbolato 4 months ago
@daniloorbolato He says that god is a horrible parody of fatherhood. The reason being is that a father's job is to raise and protect his children so that they may live and someday take his place having more than he had. God is a father who never dies and lives to see his children die, never seeing his children take his place nor having more than he has. That is the horrible parody of which Christopher is talking about.
ramius525 4 months ago
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@ramius525 Do you agree with it?
daniloorbolato 4 months ago
abeeftec = total idiot who needs anger management classes.
libomann 4 months ago 2
I CHALLENGE ANY EVOLUTIONIST TO PROVE EVOLUTION IS A FACT! Sorry, Cant do it! Then you need to stop saying it is FACT, or you need to stop telling Christains to PROVE GOD EXISTS in 500 characters or less! The number one reason you need to stop saying evolution is fact, Because EVEN DAWKINS CANT SAY ITS FACT! And if you dont know by your own studies then saying its fact and not proving it is just LIP SERVICE!
abeeftec 4 months ago
@abeeftec - "Because EVEN DAWKINS CANT SAY ITS FACT!" Yes, he can.
See watch?v=ZRDsNjhZn34
"Evolution is a fact" -- Dawkins
(P.S. I know you won't watch that, because it disproves your statement.)
geneolune 4 months ago