Could you explain different instruments in the cockpit?what's those red and white stuff stuck to the canopy walls, and what's that device right in the front making whining noises!?
Opposite aileron? I learned that when you get into a spin with a glider, you have to neutralize the aileron and go opposite with the rudder. And then, when it's neutralized, you go neutral and pull it out of the dive. Is this different in a glider with flaps? Or am I just confused with the English translation from the Dutch?
ps. I can't wait for the season to start again. I really want to fly again. Nice video and nice thermals :) Have a nice flight.
@jelmerholland You are completely correct. I misspoke and was intending to say opposite RUDDER instead of aileron. I was a little bit distracted trying to stay in the thermal, not spin into the mountain, film and talk at the same time. ;) You are right on with the proper procedure. Thanks for watching. Bruno
@vanwaestel No, just as the spin started I immediately moved the flaps to a more negative setting which helps to stop the spin. This glider was quite prone to spinning so it became an instant reflex just as a spin starts. Good question. Bruno
@FrigidColdFlying If you are within the correct CG (center of gravity) limits of the glider spins are not too violent but you don't want to take spins lightly either, especially when you are low and close to the ground. Thanks for watching. Bruno
Still amazing to me, I do appreciate the commentary, I would love to see a video where you are explaining everything you are doing and the control surfaces you are working with the left stick, I am guessing flaps? I know very little about gliders, but I hope to one day own one. I am currnetly in single engine training through my job luckily they pay!! but gliders just blow my mind and scare thr hell out of me at the same time if that makes sense. lol
This ship was prone to spinning due to some bad winglets which I later took off after this flight. Yes, cross controlling will get a glider to spin but usually it needs to be much more dramatic than what happened in this video. We later installed new winglets on this glider and it never tried to spin on me again. Thanks for watching. Bruno
Now I do not have a PPL or a GL but isn't the reason of your spin/stall induced by cross-controlling? It appears that you gave right rudder in the turn but due to the 'Gust' you had to counteract with left aileron is this correct? Just trying to learn haha
@miccelus Yes it does when watching the video but in real life it is very helpful. That said, I made this video 3 years ago and now have the vario turned down quite a bit. It was becoming annoying... ;) Bruno
@dhmosquito I ended up learning that my ship flew the best in neutral flaps. Some 20s can thermal great in thermal flap and some of the rest (including ours) don't do quite so great. I wish we could figure out the problem and get a fix. There would be a lot of happy 20 owners if we could. That said, it is a wonderful ship and I had a lot of fun in it over 6 years. Bruno
if you had water balast so only idiots are flying at slall speed in thermal conditions. Your speed scale shows almost stall speed.... so you get it...pilot :)....
superb videos! really like the view aswell! this looks like such a nice place to fly :-)
i also like the way of filming with a static camera... what camera are you using here? and how long does it run while recording? im also thinking about setting up a gopro while flying :-)
@whiteTiger941 The occasional 'ding ding' is SeeYou Mobile, not the variometer. It bleeps to help you find the best part of the thermal, but in reality pretty much sucks. I always turn it off, you really shouldn;t need it to centrate a thermal....
@TheProPilot100 you hear that beep? the faster it gets the faster the rising air. you pretty much just have to poke around and find one, but there are common areas where they are found, such as ridges more near mountains
Hi! This isn't a critic since im a beginner glider pilot so you most probably know much better than i do but i have a question: it seems to me that you're making the turns a little uncoordinated because i can see your yaw string is sometimes either slipped to the right or the left. It could be a bad angle i can't see it right. Dunno. Peace!
@blancolirio 1. the ocasional "ding, ding" is the variometer which beeps acording to the air currents. When the air is sinking it beeps with a low tone when it's rising it beeps rapidly and also with high pitched sound.
2. Every sailplane has different levers for spoilers and flaps. Usually the spoiler lever is blue and the flap lever is black. Hope i helped! Cheers!
i want to be come a sailplane/glider pilot but kinda hard to find anything to start learning how to become a pilot lol. i fly 12 ft sailplanes that are R/C the highest my altimeter has peaked was 4,221ft its was a long day. lol
You are suppost to fly at best glide in a thermal no minimal speed!!! Very unsafe flying if you keep stalling! I think someone has to go back to theorie class!! I hate being in the air with other pilots like you! Sorry for the harsh critik but if you keep stalling your doing something wrong!
@Vogelwiede I am sorry but you are wrong! you fly a few knots above the stall for the given bank angle to stay in the thermal core! I guess your from europe like me and I can tell you our little thermals over here are nowhere near as violent or turbulent as in the USA. Bruno simply dropped a wing into the thermal wall or got spun over by a gust. If you watch any good comp pilot they are the ones shooting up the middle of a thermal and buggering off into the distance. + u should not be to close
@lhitchins, I know thermals can get rough and throw you around (I fly in the alps, its gets bumpy too. He was close to stall and then banked into the thermal! Stall speed increases when given bank!!! He banked, hit the thermal which produced lift which produces drag which made him a few knots slover an then stalled. Simple flying phyics ;) Even the tipping over the wing effect with a slight nose dive is typical for stalling. Maybe a couple knots higher and wound have happend! peace
So this PCAS is like the TCAS on the airliners? I thought it reminded me of radar detector haha :DI was watching your VSI and you pick up altitude so nicely in this thermal thing! Is it your altimeter that gives a ring ever 500 ft?What i don't get is that on your other video you land on the field and it seems to be 5000ft(ASL?) and here it also seems to be at around 5000(AGL?) i guess i don't see it clearly...
i've only tried small DR400 but gliding looks sooo much more amazing from your vids!
@hallobaaaby Thanks for watching - The video starts at the altitude of 10,800 ft agl per the altimeter. My airport is at 5,000 asl so yes, this video is a mile up. I now have a new camera setup that makes it much easier and clearer to see the instruments. Gliding is a blast - come give it a try! :) Bruno
OK, I've watched the sequence at 2:30 a couple dozen times now, and as a fellow glider pilot, my heart just about stopped every time, because you are better than me in general, and I would have done exactly what you did, but with a crappier, more delayed recovery. When the ground fills the plexiglass and it's inverted and spinning, the casual fun has definitely ended! Thanks so much for posting this! You've probably saved a lot of lives!
@saildapper2001 I know what your saying however one thing I had drummed into me while learning is that departures from normal flight should never catch you by surprse nor should you be scared of them, you should practice and practice departures from normal flight until you have no worries or issues in recovering from them like Bruno did in this video.
@tappan48 Thanks for the comment. This video was taken a while ago and I since learned that I really was flying just too slow for the current glider and wing loading. I was trying to thermal around 45-48 knots but now try to keep it around 53-55 knots and do much better. Thanks - Bruno
Man, so lucky to have those mountains next to you. Cambridgeshire, where I fly, is as flat as land can be - gets boring real soon. Plenty of space to land though :)
How comfortable do you find oxygen pipes up your nose? Tried any alternatives e.g. mask. Is that some kind of transponder on top of the instrument panel?
@MrTumnus8896 You quickly forget the nasal "pipes" after a minute or two. They don't bug at all and are much less intrusive than a mask. The little gadget on the top of the panel is a PCAS. It is a passive device (does not send out any signal) and detects other aircraft's transponder responding to ground interrogations and gives you a proximity alert. Love it when it is not busted! It has stopped working twice and had to be sent in for repairs. Bruno
@bviv Thanks for the reply. As for the PCAS thing we have something simlar in the UK called FLARM but it is expensive and people don't see the point of fitting it if not everyone has it.
@marco21falcon Good question. It is the flap handle. The ASW-20 is a high performance sailplane that has both positive and negative flap settings. You will see me moving the flaps into a positive thermalling position once I start circling and then move it negative flaps once the spin starts to help get out of it. Looks like a lot of work but you quickly get used to it and don't think about it while you are doing it. Bruno
It seems to me that you're not looking back over your shoulder before entering the thermal. Extremely bad. (Much worse than that little stall which is pretty much a non-event.)
@glpxt Why is the over-the-shoulder look important. Just to clear the turns? I fly PG's and although a spin is rare for us it is neat to see that gliders get them too - recovery is about the same: some opposite control (in our case just letting off the inside brake, gain airspeed... It is very impressive how fast you guys go, the rougher conditions you can fly in and how far your glide range extends. At this level of flying do you guys ever leave the range of an actual airport landing field?
@SATtoHelico Yeah - to clear the turn. Don't want to be turning into your friend who happens to pull up onto your wing unannounced. We get out of range of airports all the time doing our cross country flights. I have landed in a farmer's field 7-8 times now. Not a huge deal if done right. Just have a friend bring your trailer to the field and take the wings and tail off and load up. Often the retrieve turns out to be part of the fun of gliding. Bruno
Jan 09 Update: I was experiencing spinning while thermalling 5-10 times per flight. No joke. Just got used to it I guess. I changed out the mylar seals on my wings and tail and it hasn't tried to spin once in over 5 flights since the change. Amazing what a difference it made!
People here have been talking about slow flight but thermalling at 45 knots in a high performance glider is standard if not even a little high. Fun to share what I experience up there, both the good and bad. -Bruno
hard left aileron (along with moderate back pressure) caused this to aggravate. Looks like full left aileron though. Not saying I would do any better, just interesting how quick it happens and how powerful the rudder is on most gliders. Thanks for the video.
Completely right. Once the spin started I should have gone neutral aileron. Notice that the spin started and then I instinctively applied more aileron. Notice how it instantly came out of the spin once I changed flap settings more negative. As I explained in my comment above this one it ended up being bad mylar seals on my wings that caused it to want to spin so easily. Thanks for the comment :) Bruno
you said in the video "the gust flipped me over" but I believe you where just too slow, when looking at your pitch angle. Flying near stall speed and then pitching up / increasing bank slightly might have caused the spin.
@dansco29 also interesting to notice side stick and flaps were used to exit........... opposite stick normally makes things worst....... it didn't, but rotation stopped quickly, all controls were effective during this event, thermalling was normal, with constant rate of turn, and almost no nose pitch up, until when too much opposite stick was applied, then rotation started........... look at 2:29 minutes and you can notice that
@dansco29 The YAW string also slides way over if you stall!!! Look at the Air Speed Indicator, I small gut hit him and made him stall! He flies too slow.. In thermals you should fly with best glied not min. Speed! He would even get a better rate of climb if he flew best glide! oh well. I think hes a poor pilot!
@dansco29@dansco29 The YAW string also slides way over if you stall!!! Look at the Air Speed Indicator, I small gut hit him and made him stall! He flies too slow. The glider did that "typical" shake before stalling and look at his stick movement! He moves it to hard left but the glider stays almost dead strainght, also a sign more min. speeds. In thermals you should fly with best glied not min. Speed! He would even get a better rate of climb if he flew best glide! Just another bad pilot!
When you hear it on video it seems pretty annoying but the volume is turned down pretty low in real life and it is nice to always hear if you are rising or sinking without having to look at instruments.
I never flown an asw20, but looked to me that is a very responsive and gentle. I am not an expert but I can tell you that a saw that coming. You was flying really slow, with the stock way left to compensate the lack of effectiveness due low speed, but most the turn was very uncoordinated, you sould pay more attention to the string, doing this at low altitude may be your last flight.
lol when i was little my father use to fly gliders, and lol i remember the string...i would have thought there would be something tech by now to replace that
fascinating to watch. good quality video too! thanks! please post more. I am a paraglider pilot and have to date only flown glider simulators. (CONDOR) I must say that this glider recovered quite benign. I expected a more violent spin. I guess you caught it prior to developing into something more severe? What is also quite clear to me is that the incidents in flight always happens when you least expect it!
Thanks for the comment. :) I wasn't going all that slowly - I was indicating around 50 knots but the thermal was really pretty turbulent and I did better once I added a little more airspeed.
Note that right before the spin you moved the stick nearly to the left stop. That's likely what stalled the inside wing. You also kept the stick well to the left throughout the recovery. The better bet (even though it goes against one's instincts) is to put the ailerons initially to neutral or even into the turn to reduce the camber and AOA on the inside tip. This will reduce the severity of the spin entry and hasten the recovery. Also a good technique for wing drop on takeoff.
Thanks for the good analysis. I instinctively moved the stick left after the wing dropped to the right and started spinning. It didn't cause the spin entry because I did it after the spin started. You are completely right though that I should have moved the stick back to neutral or even into the turn. I thought I had at the time the video proved I didn't. Can't argue with video. :)
Please explain more about using this technique for wing drop. That doesn't make sense to me. -Bruno
I've looked at at 10 times and it seems to me like the stick was moving continuously to the left before, during and after the spin entry. You also mention in the video that it happens regularly - I'd suggest you thermal faster. Edge of the stall on most ships is out of the drag bucket anyway.
On takeoff most tailwheel gliders are at a high AOA - on a wing drop if you give opposite aileron you will raise the AOA even higher - better to neutralize the stick then make small inputs.
To clarify - if the wing starts going down and you are still pretty slow on the roll try to refrain from full aileron deflections. If you put in a fair amount of opposite aileron and the wing keeps going down, neutralize the ailerons, then use smaller inputs to try to pick it up. This takes focus and nerve. Also be ready to pull the release if you don't get the wing up after 2 seconds or so.
Could you explain different instruments in the cockpit?what's those red and white stuff stuck to the canopy walls, and what's that device right in the front making whining noises!?
mamatalu 5 days ago
@mamatalu Thats the thermal indication.
hawker445 3 days ago
do you know what was the longest distance covered by a glider
lokalllize 2 weeks ago
HEY WHY DID YOU HAVE THE OXIGEN THINGY IN UR NOSE ??
f1fan84 3 weeks ago
@f1fan84 Because we often fly up to 18,000 feet.
bviv 3 weeks ago
@bviv good enough!!..
cheers from canada
f1fan84 2 weeks ago
These videos are awesome. Keep it up!
Bagels108 1 month ago
looks more like a tip stall
ArduinoAlan 1 month ago
Opposite aileron? I learned that when you get into a spin with a glider, you have to neutralize the aileron and go opposite with the rudder. And then, when it's neutralized, you go neutral and pull it out of the dive. Is this different in a glider with flaps? Or am I just confused with the English translation from the Dutch?
ps. I can't wait for the season to start again. I really want to fly again. Nice video and nice thermals :) Have a nice flight.
jelmerholland 1 month ago
@jelmerholland You are completely correct. I misspoke and was intending to say opposite RUDDER instead of aileron. I was a little bit distracted trying to stay in the thermal, not spin into the mountain, film and talk at the same time. ;) You are right on with the proper procedure. Thanks for watching. Bruno
bviv 1 month ago
did you open brakes just before spin?
vanwaestel 1 month ago
@vanwaestel No, just as the spin started I immediately moved the flaps to a more negative setting which helps to stop the spin. This glider was quite prone to spinning so it became an instant reflex just as a spin starts. Good question. Bruno
bviv 1 month ago
4:20 you have just recieved a WhatsApp ; ), just joking
Apugueiro 1 month ago
liked, favourited, subscribed
lexichronicle2 2 months ago
great videos bviv, you seem very chilled out and it's nice hearing how you're reading the conditions
lexichronicle2 2 months ago
How is the spin in a glider? violent/tame?...
FrigidColdFlying 2 months ago
@FrigidColdFlying If you are within the correct CG (center of gravity) limits of the glider spins are not too violent but you don't want to take spins lightly either, especially when you are low and close to the ground. Thanks for watching. Bruno
bviv 2 months ago
WOW!
onecheman 2 months ago
I got into a spin once, didn't recover until I pushed the stick forward. Interesting how you got out of it without releasing any back pressure.
igorSlukvin 2 months ago
Still amazing to me, I do appreciate the commentary, I would love to see a video where you are explaining everything you are doing and the control surfaces you are working with the left stick, I am guessing flaps? I know very little about gliders, but I hope to one day own one. I am currnetly in single engine training through my job luckily they pay!! but gliders just blow my mind and scare thr hell out of me at the same time if that makes sense. lol
vizzuleyes 2 months ago
Nice flying ! inverson ?
hawkxxx111 2 months ago
This ship was prone to spinning due to some bad winglets which I later took off after this flight. Yes, cross controlling will get a glider to spin but usually it needs to be much more dramatic than what happened in this video. We later installed new winglets on this glider and it never tried to spin on me again. Thanks for watching. Bruno
bviv 2 months ago
Now I do not have a PPL or a GL but isn't the reason of your spin/stall induced by cross-controlling? It appears that you gave right rudder in the turn but due to the 'Gust' you had to counteract with left aileron is this correct? Just trying to learn haha
Kudo7 3 months ago
i love it :)
ebach1 4 months ago
doesn't the vario get annoying?
miccelus 5 months ago
@miccelus Yes it does when watching the video but in real life it is very helpful. That said, I made this video 3 years ago and now have the vario turned down quite a bit. It was becoming annoying... ;) Bruno
bviv 4 months ago
I had a similar situation while flying in a -20L and since that time I use even negative flap settings in rough thermals.
dhmosquito 7 months ago
@dhmosquito I ended up learning that my ship flew the best in neutral flaps. Some 20s can thermal great in thermal flap and some of the rest (including ours) don't do quite so great. I wish we could figure out the problem and get a fix. There would be a lot of happy 20 owners if we could. That said, it is a wonderful ship and I had a lot of fun in it over 6 years. Bruno
bviv 4 months ago
Its Friday now which thermal do I taaaake.
xterminatorSD 7 months ago 2
if you had water balast so only idiots are flying at slall speed in thermal conditions. Your speed scale shows almost stall speed.... so you get it...pilot :)....
by the way... great vid :)
IksinskiTomek 7 months ago
Whats that pee-pee sound in the background?
sabbathian 7 months ago
@sabbathian thats the variometer... tells him his rate of descent and ascent... the sharper the sound, the more lift you have...
vkumar95aviator 7 months ago
superb videos! really like the view aswell! this looks like such a nice place to fly :-)
i also like the way of filming with a static camera... what camera are you using here? and how long does it run while recording? im also thinking about setting up a gopro while flying :-)
keep up the good work! greets from germany
winni555 7 months ago
@whiteTiger941 The occasional 'ding ding' is SeeYou Mobile, not the variometer. It bleeps to help you find the best part of the thermal, but in reality pretty much sucks. I always turn it off, you really shouldn;t need it to centrate a thermal....
MrBvStratum 8 months ago
so how do you see a thermal
TheProPilot100 8 months ago
@TheProPilot100 you hear that beep? the faster it gets the faster the rising air. you pretty much just have to poke around and find one, but there are common areas where they are found, such as ridges more near mountains
bajesus666 8 months ago
@TheProPilot100 There tends to be a cloud on top of them quiet often.
Tjita1 6 months ago
Hi! This isn't a critic since im a beginner glider pilot so you most probably know much better than i do but i have a question: it seems to me that you're making the turns a little uncoordinated because i can see your yaw string is sometimes either slipped to the right or the left. It could be a bad angle i can't see it right. Dunno. Peace!
whiteTiger941 8 months ago
at 2:27 it started to autorotate but the pilot avoided it almost immediately...rough weather...cool video
kabai79 8 months ago
@ 2:30 HUGE pucker factor.
cap12206 9 months ago
Dude Watching your control inputs,,, you spun the glider,from low speed wing drop ,and spastic Wrong Stick!! Inputs JEFFY
4881828 10 months ago
A couple powered plane guy questions...
What's the occasional "ding ding" sound?
Are the spoilers on the same lever as your flaps? Or a different lever out of view?
blancolirio 10 months ago
@blancolirio 1. the ocasional "ding, ding" is the variometer which beeps acording to the air currents. When the air is sinking it beeps with a low tone when it's rising it beeps rapidly and also with high pitched sound.
2. Every sailplane has different levers for spoilers and flaps. Usually the spoiler lever is blue and the flap lever is black. Hope i helped! Cheers!
whiteTiger941 8 months ago
2:24, i've done that afew times!
GAFAAAAAA 10 months ago
what happens when u spin. do u lose alt.?
pilotman322 10 months ago
@pilotman322 yes,you do...50-80 metres if you do a 360 degrees spin
kabai79 8 months ago
I cant belive how much i love your videos... Subed and sending you a freind request... I wana show you my ASK-21 Landing
K0S0s 1 year ago
Hey. Nice vid. Are you having oxygen or what is that up your nose ;D??
Matcham11 1 year ago
great vid!!!
what kinda glider are u using and which perticular model??
happy landings from german alps
buggyspecter25 1 year ago 3
@buggyspecter25 Flying an ASW-20BL
bviv 1 year ago 2
i want to be come a sailplane/glider pilot but kinda hard to find anything to start learning how to become a pilot lol. i fly 12 ft sailplanes that are R/C the highest my altimeter has peaked was 4,221ft its was a long day. lol
F35JSF1 1 year ago
You are suppost to fly at best glide in a thermal no minimal speed!!! Very unsafe flying if you keep stalling! I think someone has to go back to theorie class!! I hate being in the air with other pilots like you! Sorry for the harsh critik but if you keep stalling your doing something wrong!
Vogelwiede 1 year ago
@Vogelwiede I am sorry but you are wrong! you fly a few knots above the stall for the given bank angle to stay in the thermal core! I guess your from europe like me and I can tell you our little thermals over here are nowhere near as violent or turbulent as in the USA. Bruno simply dropped a wing into the thermal wall or got spun over by a gust. If you watch any good comp pilot they are the ones shooting up the middle of a thermal and buggering off into the distance. + u should not be to close
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins, I know thermals can get rough and throw you around (I fly in the alps, its gets bumpy too. He was close to stall and then banked into the thermal! Stall speed increases when given bank!!! He banked, hit the thermal which produced lift which produces drag which made him a few knots slover an then stalled. Simple flying phyics ;) Even the tipping over the wing effect with a slight nose dive is typical for stalling. Maybe a couple knots higher and wound have happend! peace
Vogelwiede 11 months ago
really nice video, thy for att.
KapiChris 1 year ago
what happens when you have to go pee up there in the glider?
cantroos 1 year ago
@cantroos There is a pee system built into the gliders. Who knows...maybe I was using it during this video... ;) Bruno
bviv 1 year ago 11
@bviv When you entered the spin
Valy18 1 year ago
@cantroos There is a small window on the left .
Valy18 1 year ago
@Valy18 what so you just bring an empty bottle and then just dump it out the window?
cantroos 1 year ago
@cantroos No just in youre before takeoff-list include having a piss
:)
Valy18 1 year ago
@cantroos go up.....
kit3cut 1 year ago
@kit3cut what does that mean
cantroos 1 year ago
So this PCAS is like the TCAS on the airliners? I thought it reminded me of radar detector haha :DI was watching your VSI and you pick up altitude so nicely in this thermal thing! Is it your altimeter that gives a ring ever 500 ft?What i don't get is that on your other video you land on the field and it seems to be 5000ft(ASL?) and here it also seems to be at around 5000(AGL?) i guess i don't see it clearly...
i've only tried small DR400 but gliding looks sooo much more amazing from your vids!
hallobaaaby 1 year ago
@hallobaaaby Thanks for watching - The video starts at the altitude of 10,800 ft agl per the altimeter. My airport is at 5,000 asl so yes, this video is a mile up. I now have a new camera setup that makes it much easier and clearer to see the instruments. Gliding is a blast - come give it a try! :) Bruno
bviv 1 year ago
@bviv thanks Bruno!!
hallobaaaby 1 year ago
OK, I've watched the sequence at 2:30 a couple dozen times now, and as a fellow glider pilot, my heart just about stopped every time, because you are better than me in general, and I would have done exactly what you did, but with a crappier, more delayed recovery. When the ground fills the plexiglass and it's inverted and spinning, the casual fun has definitely ended! Thanks so much for posting this! You've probably saved a lot of lives!
saildapper2001 1 year ago
@saildapper2001 I know what your saying however one thing I had drummed into me while learning is that departures from normal flight should never catch you by surprse nor should you be scared of them, you should practice and practice departures from normal flight until you have no worries or issues in recovering from them like Bruno did in this video.
lhitchins 1 year ago
Hi, just wondering what airspeed the ASW 20 thermals at? From the spin entry and the stalling, seems you're thermaling a little too slow for comfort.
tappan48 1 year ago
@tappan48 Thanks for the comment. This video was taken a while ago and I since learned that I really was flying just too slow for the current glider and wing loading. I was trying to thermal around 45-48 knots but now try to keep it around 53-55 knots and do much better. Thanks - Bruno
bviv 1 year ago 2
Man, so lucky to have those mountains next to you. Cambridgeshire, where I fly, is as flat as land can be - gets boring real soon. Plenty of space to land though :)
romkyns 1 year ago
You were thermalling at a high bank angle, at low speed. What do you expect
kingdarey 1 year ago
How big is ur O2 bottle, what's the flow rate?
CarMoves 1 year ago
How comfortable do you find oxygen pipes up your nose? Tried any alternatives e.g. mask. Is that some kind of transponder on top of the instrument panel?
MrTumnus8896 1 year ago
@MrTumnus8896 You quickly forget the nasal "pipes" after a minute or two. They don't bug at all and are much less intrusive than a mask. The little gadget on the top of the panel is a PCAS. It is a passive device (does not send out any signal) and detects other aircraft's transponder responding to ground interrogations and gives you a proximity alert. Love it when it is not busted! It has stopped working twice and had to be sent in for repairs. Bruno
bviv 1 year ago
@bviv Thanks for the reply. As for the PCAS thing we have something simlar in the UK called FLARM but it is expensive and people don't see the point of fitting it if not everyone has it.
MrTumnus8896 1 year ago
Nice narration!
thematrixhasyoo 1 year ago
what is the blue tube you suck on at 3:00? Oxygen?
jacoherbst 1 year ago
@jacoherbst Ok...got it...liquid...silly me. It's just that beep that went of the same time you had a sip. What is that? Also at 3:33.
jacoherbst 1 year ago
@jacoherbst thats water ;)
FLYBYpictures 1 year ago
@jacoherbst Probably water.
ysflightman 1 year ago
You recovered from that spin beautifully!!!
Now I know why you take videos, thease are very valuable lessons we can go back to!!!!!
prajeet26 1 year ago
Good flying! pretty place to fly too.
bronco8585 1 year ago
What is that you keep grabbing on the left of cockpit?
marco21falcon 1 year ago
@marco21falcon Good question. It is the flap handle. The ASW-20 is a high performance sailplane that has both positive and negative flap settings. You will see me moving the flaps into a positive thermalling position once I start circling and then move it negative flaps once the spin starts to help get out of it. Looks like a lot of work but you quickly get used to it and don't think about it while you are doing it. Bruno
bviv 1 year ago
u look as if u love 2 fly
hargreavesjn123 1 year ago
great vid
chryz69 2 years ago
2:30 craps his pants. :) Great videos! Gliders are a LOT of fun.
benfirst 2 years ago
It seems to me that you're not looking back over your shoulder before entering the thermal. Extremely bad. (Much worse than that little stall which is pretty much a non-event.)
glpxt 2 years ago 15
Great reminder - you are right. Thanks! :)
bviv 2 years ago
@glpxt Why is the over-the-shoulder look important. Just to clear the turns? I fly PG's and although a spin is rare for us it is neat to see that gliders get them too - recovery is about the same: some opposite control (in our case just letting off the inside brake, gain airspeed... It is very impressive how fast you guys go, the rougher conditions you can fly in and how far your glide range extends. At this level of flying do you guys ever leave the range of an actual airport landing field?
SATtoHelico 1 year ago
@SATtoHelico Yeah - to clear the turn. Don't want to be turning into your friend who happens to pull up onto your wing unannounced. We get out of range of airports all the time doing our cross country flights. I have landed in a farmer's field 7-8 times now. Not a huge deal if done right. Just have a friend bring your trailer to the field and take the wings and tail off and load up. Often the retrieve turns out to be part of the fun of gliding. Bruno
bviv 1 year ago
Jan 09 Update: I was experiencing spinning while thermalling 5-10 times per flight. No joke. Just got used to it I guess. I changed out the mylar seals on my wings and tail and it hasn't tried to spin once in over 5 flights since the change. Amazing what a difference it made!
People here have been talking about slow flight but thermalling at 45 knots in a high performance glider is standard if not even a little high. Fun to share what I experience up there, both the good and bad. -Bruno
bviv 2 years ago
hard left aileron (along with moderate back pressure) caused this to aggravate. Looks like full left aileron though. Not saying I would do any better, just interesting how quick it happens and how powerful the rudder is on most gliders. Thanks for the video.
SeanFidler 2 years ago
Completely right. Once the spin started I should have gone neutral aileron. Notice that the spin started and then I instinctively applied more aileron. Notice how it instantly came out of the spin once I changed flap settings more negative. As I explained in my comment above this one it ended up being bad mylar seals on my wings that caused it to want to spin so easily. Thanks for the comment :) Bruno
bviv 2 years ago
you said in the video "the gust flipped me over" but I believe you where just too slow, when looking at your pitch angle. Flying near stall speed and then pitching up / increasing bank slightly might have caused the spin.
debink1990 2 years ago
@debink1990
"the gust flipped him over"
LOOK AT THE YAW STRING!!!
the string remained centered.................
next time you fly in calm air try to enter a sping keeping the yaw string straight!!!!!
dansco29 1 year ago
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@dansco29 The YAW string also slides way over if you stall!!! Look at the Air Speed Indicator, I small gut hit him and made him stall! He flies too slow.. In thermals you should fly with best glied not min. Speed! He would even get a better rate of climb if he flew best glide! oh well. I think hes a poor pilot!
Vogelwiede 1 year ago
@dansco29 @dansco29 The YAW string also slides way over if you stall!!! Look at the Air Speed Indicator, I small gut hit him and made him stall! He flies too slow. The glider did that "typical" shake before stalling and look at his stick movement! He moves it to hard left but the glider stays almost dead strainght, also a sign more min. speeds. In thermals you should fly with best glied not min. Speed! He would even get a better rate of climb if he flew best glide! Just another bad pilot!
Vogelwiede 1 year ago
@dansco29 who says a gust has to be from the side affecting the yaw string, in thermals changes in wind speed are mostly from above or below.
lhitchins 1 year ago
isn't the variometre annoying during flight?
dj1993aero 2 years ago
When you hear it on video it seems pretty annoying but the volume is turned down pretty low in real life and it is nice to always hear if you are rising or sinking without having to look at instruments.
bviv 2 years ago
at 2:00 you put your right hand of the stick. I highly recommend you not to do because of these strong thermals
yonieter 2 years ago
This shows why spin training is so important. Everybody need to know exactly what to do.
Lindahl 2 years ago
sick
chryz69 2 years ago
thought you had to neutralize the ailerons :p
bertjuhh16 2 years ago
Yep - my bad :)
bviv 2 years ago
spectacular view!!!
ikaro2017 2 years ago
lol your airspeed was just above stall before the gust
ecookman 2 years ago
It is standard procedure to circle just a few knots above stall speed when thermalling in a glider.
bviv 2 years ago
I never flown an asw20, but looked to me that is a very responsive and gentle. I am not an expert but I can tell you that a saw that coming. You was flying really slow, with the stock way left to compensate the lack of effectiveness due low speed, but most the turn was very uncoordinated, you sould pay more attention to the string, doing this at low altitude may be your last flight.
juanma240z 2 years ago
lol when i was little my father use to fly gliders, and lol i remember the string...i would have thought there would be something tech by now to replace that
ecookman 2 years ago
if it ain't broken don't fix it ;)
ECAaxel 2 years ago
QUESTION? whats the camera and lens setup? .....man that looks so good in full screen hd!!!!!...
youcantleaveDave 2 years ago
DXG, got it....lens?
youcantleaveDave 2 years ago
Cokin wide angle lens superglued to the camera. You can get them sometimes for under $10 off of ebay. Works great as you can see. -Bruno
bviv 2 years ago
fascinating to watch. good quality video too! thanks! please post more. I am a paraglider pilot and have to date only flown glider simulators. (CONDOR) I must say that this glider recovered quite benign. I expected a more violent spin. I guess you caught it prior to developing into something more severe? What is also quite clear to me is that the incidents in flight always happens when you least expect it!
TheAntea 2 years ago
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Carefree27b 2 years ago
What was your speed before spin ?
Nice quality of image , could you tell the other guy on Youtube how to do it. LOL.
proudbelgian 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment. :) I wasn't going all that slowly - I was indicating around 50 knots but the thermal was really pretty turbulent and I did better once I added a little more airspeed.
bviv 2 years ago
Nice vid.
Note that right before the spin you moved the stick nearly to the left stop. That's likely what stalled the inside wing. You also kept the stick well to the left throughout the recovery. The better bet (even though it goes against one's instincts) is to put the ailerons initially to neutral or even into the turn to reduce the camber and AOA on the inside tip. This will reduce the severity of the spin entry and hasten the recovery. Also a good technique for wing drop on takeoff.
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Carefree27b 2 years ago
Thanks for the good analysis. I instinctively moved the stick left after the wing dropped to the right and started spinning. It didn't cause the spin entry because I did it after the spin started. You are completely right though that I should have moved the stick back to neutral or even into the turn. I thought I had at the time the video proved I didn't. Can't argue with video. :)
Please explain more about using this technique for wing drop. That doesn't make sense to me. -Bruno
bviv 2 years ago
Hey Bruno,
I've looked at at 10 times and it seems to me like the stick was moving continuously to the left before, during and after the spin entry. You also mention in the video that it happens regularly - I'd suggest you thermal faster. Edge of the stall on most ships is out of the drag bucket anyway.
On takeoff most tailwheel gliders are at a high AOA - on a wing drop if you give opposite aileron you will raise the AOA even higher - better to neutralize the stick then make small inputs.
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To clarify - if the wing starts going down and you are still pretty slow on the roll try to refrain from full aileron deflections. If you put in a fair amount of opposite aileron and the wing keeps going down, neutralize the ailerons, then use smaller inputs to try to pick it up. This takes focus and nerve. Also be ready to pull the release if you don't get the wing up after 2 seconds or so.
Carefree27b 2 years ago
Great videos Bruno. It is always nice to find other pilots enjoying soaring! The flying and talking is great too!
keep Rockin!
soldanr 2 years ago
nice quality
phoeteus 2 years ago
Nice quick response - MY heart jumped in my mouth :)
alfsrc 2 years ago