Those Darn Atheists! # 1 (pt 1)

[PatsFan1975]

You know the book that was written by men. :-). if i was alive back when the Bible was written and I wrote that God hates swimming people who go by what the Bible says would never swim or drink water.

[qerrtre]

if what you believe is just that god is here and has been here forever (something that should be discussed under my other comment) then why couldnt all the animals and the entire universe just be their? if god can just be without help from anything why couldnt everything else do the same?

the reason that some animals can change their color is because they have the biological requirements to do so, just like humans dont have chloropyll so they cant make energy from the sun

[qerrtre]

i agree with most things but i do not think that jarvick is the smartest person and even if he was how does that compare? a god that is supposedly all powerful, who even created him, against a man

also your experiment discredits both sides, you arguement is that carbon and water couldnt make everything evolution it invalid, but then what created god? if everything had to be created from something than how was god created?

[jordanwendle]

God DOES promise wealth, health and prosperity. Verses promising that are in the bible, especially in the new testament. If you want sound, biblical teaching, Christian Harfouche Ministries and Kenneth Copeland Ministries is where it's at. There's a lot of false doctrines the church has been duped to believe in by the devil.

[pennylaneproductions]

Copeland teaches that 'Jesus was born again in the pits of hell'. He is a liar and a savage wolf. God's curse is on that greedy dog.

[tinfoilrepair]

@pennylaneproductions copeland is an asswipe

[alfer41]

Wow. This is a well thought out and amusing video. Thanks.

[pennylaneproductions]

Thanks! (unless that's sarcasm..I get that a lot)

[brh986]

You are truly a terrible person.

[krissyeh]

Atheism: the doctrine that there is no god, or belief of. Who said that we have to believe in god or a god. I don't believe that there is a god or gods. All that I believe in is my children, my family, my friends and the goodness of others, as long as they don't try to force their beliefs on me.

[SCE2AUX]

If you reject all authority...why are you asking "Who"?

"as long as they don't try to force their beliefs on me. "

Like those evil nasty Christians who force you to watch videos on YouTube that you disagree with?

[maxk322]

all right i have to say this, i disagree with your belief system, but you take the time to create common ground and come off as genuine. while i still disagree this was a good video

[pennylaneproductions]

Very much appreciated. It's good to (occasionally) see some courteous disagreement. Sometimes I admit I step into a little hostility myself but I try not to. Thanks again.

[gettyman1]

Come on Kirk and Ray are nothing more than tools. Anyone who claims they can prove god scientifically on TV then goes right to the ten commandments and absolutely no science is a tool.

[DefaultPosition]

I am used to being insulted and damned by the religious, so don't worry about it.

You begin by saying "not real Christians"; my highly suspicious antenna pops up when I hear that.

You are a Christian monotheist, that belief system comes from the bible. You are following a religion. Therefore, you are religious.

Yes. I did know that Mary is a pre-christian influenced belief; also the idea of jesus being born form a virgin is likely a mistranslation from the Aramaic word for young girl.

[pennylaneproductions]

The word translated virgin does imply a "maiden", or virgin. Mary veneration is a reflection of the many goddess cults (and mother and child cults) that went before. When I say I disdain religion, I mean rituals and structured institutions...e.g. Catholic/Orthodox "Christianity".

[phazinn]

pennylaneproductions, you certainly love stating facts without proof. Anyone can say what you said. You use a baby picture as your icon/id how appropriate baby.  Some people have to be adults.

[7JayMan7]

you state the 'mary' apparitions/belief etc...are shear superstition.

not so, the bible make it clear >

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;

so no, it's much more real than 'shear superstition as you state.

the lying signs & demonic wonders going on are All Too Real !

[pennylaneproductions]

NO, in case I didn't say it, I believe they are demonic deceptions. Rather, the apparitions are real and demonic deceptions...the cheese sandwiches and chocolate blobs are imaginations of superstitious people. Glad to clear that up.

[adsooner05]

Sorry but believing that an invisible man in the sky brings dead people back to life isnt rational. It is not rational to believe in the supernatural wether or not this supernatural being offers wealth or not. If you believe in that god impregnated a women and begat another supernatural natural being then you are superstitious.

[scubadiver88]

wait so are you then saying that its rational the believe that the Gentic code of life on earth is getting more complex

hmmm that breaks second law of thermodynamics

if you dotn know what it is

it basicly means that things wind down lose heat, lose power

NOT get more power and more complex!

evolution breaks all 3 law of thermodynamics

I find a faith in evolution to be unrationaland (it is religion) it is a naturalistic relgion

if you dont belive in God then your only opetion is evolution

[TheWolverine0001]

Great video. Keep up the good work

[pennylaneproductions]

Thank you very much! I appreciate that more than I can say.

[TheWolverine0001]

You are very welcome my friend. I also prayed for you the other night. This format is where your brand of witness is sorely needed but if you get anymore comments your going to be hammered most of the time ...so please be encouraged.

[Adnara]

You mention that humility was more important than the sacrifice. So, why exactly did God demand the physical sacrifice again? Also, I don't see how humility has anything to do with using his own son as a sacrifice to appease his own disgust at sin.

[pennylaneproductions]

The sacrifice itself foreshadowed Christ. We don't offer them anymore. It's hard to understand, since we can "let things slide" why there HAD to be payment but that's the immutable nature of God. Inviolate laws had been broken and no sacrifice was worthy other than the perfect lamb of God. Using our "logic" it doesn't add up, but..

[Adnara]

Ah. So we don't judge God's actions at all, we just assume he is real and always correct. That seems like a bad way to conduct your life.

[pennylaneproductions]

Questioning the creator and doing whatever you please seems far worse to me.

[Adnara]

Why? Because you assume God is real? You base your belief on a flawed book and nothing else. A poor premise.

[HeartOfOmega]

The flaw isn't in The Book, but rather in understanding of the one reading The Book.

[saibod]

I don't have a problem with Christians. I just wish some of you would be a little more open minded and tolerant. I'm talking about the strict fundamentalists.

Have a good one...

[ironhell6]

"You know because the bible says so and the bible is the word of god"

Well good for you, the bible also says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (exodus 18:22) (at least it used to until the church decided to change it) and this caused thousands of people to be brutally tortured and murdered. But it's the word of god so I guess you have to go with it.

[pennylaneproductions]

People have killed over land as well. Shall we renounce that? How about money? How about love? The New Testament teaches no such thing and you know it. Watch my RE: God Awful Truth video.

[pennylaneproductions]

I saw it. The ususal straw men and fig leaves. the bottom line: religion causes hate and war...waaaaaahhhhh!

[MilitantKafir2]

try this site:

jesusneverexisted dot com.

explore the true history of christianity.

[chapaev36]

(pt 2) I don't think it would die - I think that there would be fewer believers, but they would be much wiser and purer. Naturally the church would lose all of its clout.

[pennylaneproductions]

Well, I can't see not teaching your children what you know to be true just because they will ultimately have to choose. That would be irresponsible. Contrary to what many Christians believe, however, raising their children exposed to the Truth in no way means they will choose it. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your input. I agree wholeheartedly about the church having "clout". It's not supposed to!

[chapaev36]

Yes. I'm not against teaching children about morality, but at the same time I am uncomfortable with the fact that Christians attempt to turn their children into Christians before they are old enough to decide for themselves. And we know that Christian parents are not open to providing them with reading alternatives about other religions.

[chapaev36]

... or atheism (non-belief in a religious God) for that matter.

[chapaev36]

I like that you made the choice to be a Christian yourself at an adult age. I wish Christians, most of them, would let their own children make that choice as well and leave them be while they are children. This is my beef and is likewise Condell's beef. Christians don't do this because they fear that if they do their religion will die a quick death. (cont'd)

[gqathlete]

Good vid more need to see this!!!!

[thumbsdownman]

I like you. I think you're wrong and all that, but you seem nice enough.

Just admit that the crocoduck is a bad argument, and I think we can be friends. :P

[pennylaneproductions]

Sure Hell exists. That's why I want atheists to acknowledge the painfully obvious reality of God's existence. Once conceding that, I think the evidence (If they are interested)will lead them to Christ as it did many others, including doctors, lawyers, etc. All Christians are not simpletons.

[unclexbob]

hehe, he said "rational" and "x'tian" in the same sentence

Atheists aren't supposed to be "hated"....maybe.

We're still going to hell, regardless of your x'tian affiliation/denomination/mishm­ash, which creates the angst on both sides.

if you're trying to suggest that hell doesn't exist and/or hell isn't as easy to get in as some think. Well, you're making shit up

[gqathlete]

When people got to hell its there will!

God might say to on your way "Not my will be done but yours"!!!!!!!!!

[unclexbob]

no, sorry. That is called "blackmail", not free will.

Let me put it in human terms. If I kidnap you and strap you to a chair, then tell you, you have 2 choices. Either you worship me as a god for the rest of your life, or I cut off your hands and feet. If you choose the latter, does that put the blame on the victim, since he "chose" the option?

If thats "free will" you can keep it. Thanks

[gqathlete]

Were not strap!!! Are you? You have your life and your will! What you do with it is your choice. Dont confuse Islam with Christianity!

[unclexbob]

My "choice" is only 2 options, believe and go to heaven, don't believe and go to hell. EVERYONE that dies is FORCED to be part of this "choice"

My free will doesn't allow me to escape from your supposed "choice" assuming I die eventually

Not sure what islam has to do with this

[gqathlete]

Well I done with this, ummm Heaven or Hell, Tough choice! No force there. You dont like the fact that you have free will, I guess you would rather be a robot....... Islam is a religion of force, accept or die. Look at your previous comment! In order to have real love you need free will. Bye bye!!

[unclexbob]

so you admit its not really a choice, and therefore "free will" as x'tians define it, is a complete joke. The choice offered isn't a choice, its only punishment for choosing poorly (as you see it). Aka, blackmail

Glad you agree

Islam is only slightly uglier assuming you don't ignore the OT, but thats another discussion.