Also read Ezekiel chapter 18 you are responsible and you have a free will stop making excuses. Jesus is not your Saviour he is not the God-man that you have been taught in your churches. Truth is not taught in churches only man's doctrines because they themselves are lost. Note there are only a few that find the truth, according to Matt7:13-14 narrow way. You will know them by their fruits bad tree will produce bad fruits. Seek the truth while you have the opportunity to.
There are other examples of repentance such as Zachaeus in Luke Ch.19:1-10 again there must be deeds of repentance, as Zachaeus who was a tax collector and that he had stolen from others. So he gave back what he had stolen four fold, you see you must understand that you have sin against God and make recompense for it. Examine what is written in 2 Corinthians 7: 8-11 it is explicted what must take place in true repentance and you must search your heart. Jesus is our example not our saviour.
For example, In the Old Testament in the book of Jonah, Jonah preach to the Ninevites in chapter 3 ver 5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, proclaimed a fast,and put on sackcloth, from the greatest to the least of them. These people believed what God had proclaim to them they took it serious and by their belief within their hearts they acted upon it by proclaiming a fast and putting on sackcloth. You see unless you seek the truth with all of your mind and heart, you will be fool.
As we do sinned we must seek God and repent. What do I mean by repentance it is not what the church teaches to say a prayer and tell God that you are sorry. God is not mocked, he is able to see your heart and knows if you are serious or not. For example if we borrow someone's car and then we damage it and bring it back to someone and say I am sorry that is not repentance. We must make it right we either fix the car or we have someone repair it. Another words we are reconcile with that person.
For example In Genesis 4:6 "So the Lord said to Cain, why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it." So what is taken place here is that you have a free will here, note this is after Adam's sin so it is possible to do right instead of wrong. Original sin is a excuse by those who will not take responsibility to do what is right in our heart.
Orignal sin is a lie, we are born innocent from our mother womb. The men who preach this stuff (original sin) was created by Augustine in the 4th century. The Church (Roman Catholics) began to teach this also and Martin Luther and Calvin because they never turn away completely from the Catholic church. We have a conscience that is given to us by God when we enter this world, therefore we are innocent until we know the difference between right and wrong. We are responsible at that point.
The concept of orginal sin makes no sense. Crearte a PROBLEM: Convince the ignorant masses that there is a jealous God, that they are cursed with sin as soon as they are born. Unless they are "saved", they will suffer eternal punishment. REACTION: The fearful masses submit to the dictates of the church to be "saved". SOLUTION: Those men who wrote this fiction, called the Bible, offer salvation. All it takes is money and blind obedience from the ignorant masses
"Access to hidden areas is reserved for customers who have made financial donations or purchased our e-books and e-book packages." (from your website's home page) whoever came up with this is a hypocrit who enjoys twisting the gospel and truth to fit into their own little web of deception, this is only successful at convincing the weak and feeble minded. But hey, the world is full of them so why not take advantage right? Those who resemble the deceiver are well known for their ability to deceive
Can this vids assertions be right N one still hold a theological positions of origonal sin N total depravity,.. as long as it means by definition something different than the doctrinal version.. yes I believe so..
@CRISwraith Adam's descendants have inherited lies which have polluted their minds and made them prone to sin. This does not mean that they are sinful BY NATURE and that they can't do anything to escape being in a perpetual state of sinfulness, but rather that they are sinful by NURTURE, and righteousness entails cutting oneself off from the world of vices. Catholic/"Christian" doctrines like original sin strongly discourage this, thereby perpetuating/causing the sin-state.
@malakhhatzadik Loved this video SO MUCH! :) Ezekiel 18:20 completely DESTROYS original sin doctrine! Jesus is come in the flesh! 1 John 2:22! Therfore, He is in us and our fruits should show He is in us! Galatians 5:22-23! So if Jesus is in us when we accept Him, then does this mean Jesus is a sinner? According to original sin doctrine - ABSOLUTELY! Original sin is FALSE! Loved your video! 1 question - what song is playing on your video "The Truth About the Catholic Church"?
@malakhhatzadik I am not sure what you mean, Define original sin. What is it and how is it interpeted by the early Fathers of the Church. Is the message of God only contained in the Bibleetc.... I am not sure where u or the video is comin from. It seemes Gnostic to me, please correct me if I am wrong.
@hesicast "Is the message of God only contained in the Bible" -- The Bible itself declares otherwise. Original sin is the idea that everyone on the planet has inherited a sinful nature from Adam and Eve and is therefore in need of redemption even if they have already been redeemed. i.e. You're a sinner by nature and God thinks of you as a sinner even if you don't sin.
@malakhhatzadik who does not sin? and i agree the bible does declare otherwise, but where does the word of God also exist? Is there an authority a point of reference? Also does your call name refer to the royal preisthood? I had read that this was the pre figuration of Christ?
@hesicast "who does not sin?" Anyone who isn't sinning, obviously. "but where does the word of God also exist?" If it's not within you, then look around you. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse (Romans 1:20). "Also does your call name refer to the royal preisthood?" It refers to Yahshuah, the high priest, the point of reference.
@malakhhatzadik Forgive me again, you said anyone who is not sinning.obviously. Can u specify anyone one, point us in that direction so we have an exaple of a stainless person for we need a living example. And forgive me again how can i trust Roman 1:20 if Paul added and suptracted to the Word as you have said.
@CRISwraith And what, exactly would that consist of? Seeing how the doctrine doesn't specify but rather defines original sin as essentially the opposite of the video's assertions, I think it's self-evident that to hold a contrary view is to deny the premise of the original sin doctrine, and that it would therefore be illogical (and wrong) to hold both views simultaneously.
@TheFirestorm304 Maybe it's the Church that's doing the twisting and you have misinterpreted the light for the darkness and vice-versa, what do you think? Revelation also teaches against casual dismissal and apathy.
in the book of Psalm if u read chapter 51 verse 7 TRUE, I WAS BORN GUILTY, A SINNER EVEN AS MY MOTHER CONCEIVED ME. This proves that we were born with the original sin but Jesus came and cleansed us and in his mercy forgave us for our sins and changed us to be his children.
for those who believe....Yes itis true we can live a sinless life, it is difficult, but one who truley follows the Lord will not continue to sin or live in it, Jesus was fully man and fully God. He was the only one who was qualified to die, be sacrificed on a cross (or tree) for the sins of man cus he was sinless, he faced all the temptation of man but also remember he also fasted for 40 days to comit Himself to His father in prayer so he can be more prepared to continue His sinless life.
God made man in his image, we are gods but our father is greater than us, still we need to remember this, you have the power to do anything ,get to know your soul which is part of the creator's body
Original sin is a roman innovation,in order to annihilate Europeans peoples,especially northerns white peoples(celts,germanics and scandinavians).Romans had a lot of difficulties to maintain their yoke on the gallia and germany after the conquest.
we have ALL sinned even if we did it when we were young and werent conscious of it, e.g. impatience, self-centredness etc. its arrogant to think otherwise. claiming we are ALWAYS going to sin throughout our life and can do nothing to stop is WRONG, but we all have sinned at some point in the past.
I hope you respond so here goes. The Bible is replete with statements of mans sin, Adam fell and we being his offspring continue in the sin nature passed down from Adam. The continued sacrifices the need to live by Faith, all indicate man has a sin problem that needs to be cleansed. Look at Isaiha before the LORD they took a coal off the alter to cleanse him. Romans clearly tells us All have sinned and fallen Short of GOD's Glory. Jesus Christ redeemed us from this by the NEW BIRTH. answer okay.
@007jjb Say something worth responding to other than the same run-of-the-mill propaganda/brainwashing every other "Christian" advocates, and I may not have already debunked it. Once again I find myself repeating what seems so obvious... to say that all HAVE sinned is NOT to say that all DO sin, or that we are all BORN INTO sin. Don't bother arguing. I teach English.
If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent. Matthew 12:7
• There is no original sin. Adam is tested to indicate that he has a free will. He disobeyed his Lord. Then he asked Him to efface his sin and to grant him forgiveness and to have mercy on him. Then His Lord turned to him with mercy, guided him and chose him for HIS grace. Hence, some of the beautiful qualities of God appeared. God is Just and Fair. He doesn't punish any one because of the sins of the others.
The Letter to the Romans was Paul, unconscious attempt to blame the whole world and the alleged sinful nature of man for the assassination of Yeshua. Saul had persecuted the followers of Yeshua and his guilt feelings were great. From this letter is that the doctrine of original sin originates. Somebody else specify it as a Christian Doctrine, but the original concept was created by Paul to justify his sins and blame the whole world for the assassination of Yeshua and his followers.
@zekigpr You blatantly don't understand it (Romans). The doctrine of original sin DOES NOT COME FROM THE BIBLE. PERIOD.
For not the hearers of the Torah are righteous in the sight of Elohim, but the doers of the law shall be declared right. For when gentiles, who do not have the Torah, by nature do what is in the Torah, although not having the Torah, they are a Torah to themselves, who show the work of the Torah written in their hearts. Romans 2:13-15
More proof from Romans that Paul would have rejected original sin (there are many):
-if an uncircumcised one watches over the righteousness of the Torah, shall not his uncircumcision be reckoned as circumcision? And the uncircumcised by nature, who perfects the Torah, shall judge you who notwithstanding letter and circumcision are a transgressor of the Torah!
-where there is no Torah there is no transgression.
-For sin shall not rule over you, for you are not under the law but under favour.
@malakhhatzadik They are of the world, therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of Elohim -- the one knowing Elohim hears us. By this we know the Spirt of the Truth and the Spirt of the delusion. I YOHANAN 4V5-6.
@malakhhatzadik Yes,you're right,it's like the crucifixion of yeshua,who wasn't on a cross,but on a pillory.Roman crucifixion was on a pillory.In France,we have this expression:nailed to the pillory.
For the original sin,it's a roman innovation in order to control celto-germanics peoples,or others peoples who were conquered by romans.
Here is another viewpoint: Yeshua send his disciples to preach two different messages: To the Jews who had rebelled against God he preached repentance and conversion. To the nations who had not known the law of Yah, he send the disciples to teach the law as interpreted by Yeshua. Unfortunately Paul, who was not a disciple but a Pharisee, created the doctrine of universal guilt to take away the guilt of the Jews from killing the Anointed One and place it upon the unsuspecting gentiles.
@zekigpr Paul didn't invent the doctrine of original sin. The Roman Catholic Church did--and in particular the Manichaean heretic Augustine of Hippo. All we really know of Paul is what's in the Bible pertaining to him, and it has no substance whatsoever in the Bible.
Great stuff man. God has called his people to come out of the whore(organized religion) yet people are still afraid of the truth. You wonder how something as holy as the living word of Christ has anything to do with a multi-billion dollar industry, which is evangelism. So many billions have built grand churches and temples, yet there are still hundreds of millions poor, hungry, sick and dying of disease. Most of these churches are 'whoring' God's people using fear, and intimidation.
Therefore, perhaps Original Sin is twisted and wrong but the important thing is- man can not do good without knowing first what is good. Unless a man follows God's will (God's will is good) then we are to be subject to sin (anything that is not of God's will).
It does not matter that we were originally good, we still do not know the diffrence between good and evil therefore we are subject to a sinful nature without guidance from God.
Yes, Elohim made us in his image and said we were good-
"And Elohim saw all that He had made,and see, it was very good."
Though, why does Elohim tell us we are wicked?
“If you then, being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children..." Mathew 7:11 If we do not know what is good, how can we walk in a good path? As you have said before- "We must know the doctrine" from Elohim- then we can know of what is Good and Evil in order to direct our paths.
@quirky0907 I agree with your second point / overall conclusion, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that "Christians" are being fed a whole bunch of nonsense and that it actually causes them to sin. Re: Matthew 7, Yahushuah was speaking to a bunch of Jews. That is hardly applicable to all people as a universal truth. I, for one, will not suffer being grouped with them, nor should you. peace
@malakhhatzadik I agree with you that there are many lies out there that are diluting the Christian religion.
Though, I do not believe that you can throw out Matthew 7 just because it was said to Jews. I know I have seen you quote it yourself in several locations including Matthew 7:13 “Enter in through the narrow gate!".
@quirky0907 I don't throw it out, or anything else in scripture for that matter. It just doesn't apply here. Original sin asserts that we are ALL sinful by nature. I don't dispute that Jews are. It's a matter of paradigms. A good tree bears good fruit just like a bad tree bears bad fruit. If they were "men first," then Yahushuah wouldn't have called them sons of the devil, and a generation of snakes, etc. Scripture needs to be considered in its context or it will never be properly understood.
@malakhhatzadik Regardless that you yourself have used Matthew, the statements are in fact Universal to all of man. Where does it say, though if only you are a Jew. Do you believe we should throw out ever passage that was said to men who were Jews? They may have been Jews, but they were men first.
@malakhhatzadik Sorry, I notice my grammar and writing of my last post is not up to par at this time of night. Though I think you can understand what I was saying. (ever-every*)
Take away the religious portion at the end and this video is hitting the nail on the head. Come on, wake up! Satan is not a real entity, it's a boogeyman, invented to scare one into becoming subservient to religion and government. You have an inherent right to do as you please as long as you do not interfere in the rights of others to do the same and as long as you do not steal, defraud or do physical damage to another person, or his/her property.
@WitchWindy What if you're wrong? What if someone could prove it to you, and in fact HAS proved it but you just weren't paying attention? Doesn't that mean YOU are the one who has been duped into being subservient? There are none so enslaved...
Dude man by his fallen nature is sinful! Sin was Never Gods intention. But man IS fallen. Proof? You don't have to teach a kid to be bad But you must teach him to be good. Yes religion sucks but did you ever try to understand Biblical Christianity? Man will always try to make merchantdize of you even in the spiritual relm. Caveat emptor. I don't buy lies but you are missing the boat.
@carpavel If the kid you're referring to was never accustomed to the privations of the society he/she was being raised in, he/she would certainly not need to be told how to act. Like it or not, you're wrong, and if you don't know that it's only because of your own ignorance, not anything having to do with this video's failure to provide enough substantiation to refute your arguments which I have done in depth in my other videos. Speaking of Biblical Christianity, you should watch them.
@ph34rn0d34th What's the point of asking me this? If you want to know what the messenger is about without being deceived, focus on the message, not the messenger. The message: original sin is a lie. Satan is the father of lies.
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
all "theories" are artificially created to implement in human mind ideologies of CREATION, CHOSEN MESSIANIC BLOODLINE, MONOTHEISM - from religious perspective, and...if you don't agree - with religious ideologies with secular ones - EVOLUTION, OUT OF AFRICA THEORY
If an angel would appear to you in the night, and he states he is an angel sent by God to deliver a message, would you listen? If the angel states that all of the religious beliefs on Earth are incorrect, and tells you the truth about what God's will is, would you listen?
If an angel would appear before you and tells you your ways are false, would you believe him, or rebuke him with citations of scripture? Would you expect a trick of Satan? Would you be willing to spread the word, if asked?
When you speak of no sin without law, are you referring to Romans 4:15?Concerning these assertions, what does this passage mean to you "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law" Romans 2:12. The following passages also mention that even without law, it is still written on their hearts...so essentially there is no place or time without some sort of law. What does this mean?
@KrigareavGud "What does this mean?" What it DOESN'T mean is original sin. The Bible does not contradict itself. Paul didn't believe this nonsense any more than any of the other writers, and to interpret his epistles to ascribe a doctrine to him which didn't even exist until the 3rd century is logically fallacious, and a denial of the apostolic succession through Ananias.
All religions are false, its that simple. Islam,Christianity, Buddhism, New Age, UFOlogy,Satanism, Paganism, Environmentalism, Bahai, and so on. Religion is based on deception, and they deceived you into believing nonsense, and they keep you from the truth in the long run,for answers that are false, and destructive.
Augustine was the biggest waste of time I've ever spent on something. Unfortunately Calvin's relative acumen (and I say relative because of the complete lack of insight by the other so-called Reformers) can't retroactively make original sin Biblical. Nor does your casual disregard for the truths presented in this video. Truth is truth regardless of what anyone has to say about it, and scripture cannot be broken.
??? So God is a liar, science is bunk, and the world is flat? You must be right. After all, the great St. Augustine clearly stated as much (De Civitate Dei, xvi, 9).
Actually the world makes PERFECT sense as a sphere, without sin/privation and depravity. Not that any "Christian" can possibly fathom the meaning of that since it comes from the Bible and stands in direct opposition to Augustine's Manichaeism...
Do you even know the meaning of the word "blasphemy"? If you can't tell the difference between truth and error when it is plainly explained to you on the most elementary level, at least have an original thought. My argument is what stands here.
The time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me." John 16:2-3
2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us.
2 Thessalonians 3:14 If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame.
1 Timothy 6:3-4 If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions,
2 John 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9
The main objective or target of the right religion is to change the usual man into a superman. The superman is sinnles, righteous, pure, and perfect. The natural man is born without sins. He must act to avoid falling into sins. He must act to purify himself and to improve his essential nature. The priesthood is nothing but a weapon in the hand of devil.
There is no original sin. Adam is tested to indicate that he has a free will. He disobeyed his Lord. Then he asked Him to efface his sin and to grant him forgiveness and to have mercy on him. Then His Lord turned to him with mercy, guided him and chose him for HIS grace. Hence, some of beautiful qualities of God appears. God is Just and Fair. He doesn't punish any one because of the sins of the others.
He is as good as any man. I have yet to see a single sin of omission or commission from him in the year or so that I've known him. Moreover, it doesn't matter that he's a good man. Original sin is illogical. Period.
I've become a fairly ardent watcher of this channel. I have a lot of difficulties with many of the things he says, but, in many cases, (if only by my own research) he appears to be correct. I can't confirm or deny half of what he's talking about, but, that alone should make any watchers of his channel more mindful of the truth, and less willing to shout accusations. We all do remember whom the original accuser was, don't we? In any case, even if he's off, kudos for trying. I've learned much
well if the first sin was desire, or "knowing" what "god" maybe didnt want us to know and be "like" him, then being born into sin would mean that we are born with freedoms and knowledge either from past lives or knowlegde that we all have that connection with the creation. thats why the teachings of the christ were taken and perverted, to keep everyone in a victim consciousness mind state. to say we were born into sin is admitting that the creator is unperfect, is playing us like a game
5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. 12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
You don't even understand the doctrine. You haven't supported it at all. Yes, sin entered the world from one man, but there WAS only one man! Don't you think Paul would have said that ALL were made sinners instead of "many" if he meant all? And again, if one man said his mother was a sinner, how does that mean that he is necessarily a sinner by nature?
Everyone having been born of Elohim does not sin, because His seed stays in him, and he is powerless to sin, because he has been born of Elohim.
First of all I used all 500 characters, so it would have been inappropriate to try to appeal to your overly emotional sense of pride, and if I were to stoop to doing that every time some random sheep wanted to use incredibly base arguments which I've already preempted and refuted hundreds of times in the videos and comments, I'd never get anywhere. Count them if you wish.
Secondly, as I've stated NUMEROUS times, to say that all HAVE sinned is not to say that all DO sin.
And you're right, I'd rather argue, because you decided to argue a point which inevitably makes God the biggest A-hole ever, and I'm not okay with that. You should choose your battles more wisely, then you won't have to run away from them. You are such an avid sinner that you think EVERYONE else is to, contrary to scripture and plain reason. How could I be friends with such a person? What communion does the light have with darkness?
So you were born a sinner. Were you born a fool too, or did you have to work on it?
I most certainly HAVE proved the veracity of scripture against your doctrines of devils, as any idiot SHOULD be able to plainly see. Too bad the sheep are just sheep and the wolves are all too ravenous...
Also I can't believe you totally ignored "Everyone having been born of Elohim does not sin, because His seed stays in him, and he is powerless to sin." Not really. I fully expected it.
Here is my take on "Original Sin" i believe that it should be referred to the Nature of us to constantly sin.. Proven in the world by taking 2 infants put a toy in front of them they both want n they will fight over it till one yields you break it up and if possible i am sure they would literally try and kill each other for it... This is something that is in every single person on the face of the earth we are inclined to sin over doing good more or less but thats not to say we...
are in capable of doing good.. I dont believe in Total Depravity.. Now your first 2 quotes were from BEFORE the fall..Yes we were created in HIS image and it was very good, but then we (humankind) fell and the nature to sin over do good has been past to each of us from then on... Now you also quote Matt 5:48 trying to make the point we should be sinless and perfect.. Sorry but we will never be sinless and perfect..
1 John 1: 8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Only because of the Blood of the Lamb and our faith in Him and His works are we considered righteous in the eyes of the Lord. We ourselves will never be righteous on our own accord or by our own works
As paul shows in Rom 7: 14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
19For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law;
23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
Paul still sinned, He battled it Daily as we all do and he also teaches that we ALL have Sinful Nature.. I believe this is the "original sin" that was passed down to us from adam... Rom 5: 12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:..
The idea that Sin Nature was passed from Adam to all and death from sin was also passed is DEF taught in Scripture!! But many man made idealistic have been created around that
That Truth.. Such as purgatory and infant baptism and infants going to HELL ect ect. which I don NOT believe in cuz its NOT taught in the Word of God... I believe that there is an age of accountability that is different for each person based on maturity levle where you can truly understand right from wrong and the work of Salvation.. I believe its around 12-20 and if you look up ex 30:14 20 is the age that Israelites had to being making Sacrifices and 13 is when they have bar/bat mitzvah.
Which I believe is also confirmed by the life of Jesus and the New testament in Luke 2: 42And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
This is why I think 12 is the only age pointed out from His birth till 30ish at the start of His ministry,and since Jesus was a JEW it only makes sense that He would also have had a bar mitzvah!!!
"Jesus" was NOT a Jew. Dude, that's so basic. Wow.
Without the law there is no sin. Not everyone has the law, and not everyone sins. Read the book of Romans. Paul's personal introspection in chapter 7 doesn't apply to everyone. He was a Pharisee, a legalistic Jew, a blasphemer and a persecutor and murderer of Christians, born and sold under the law and under sin. Your statemet that "Sorry but we will never be sinless and perfect" is a sophism, an error, a contravention of scripture.
I cannot ever try and have a rational argument with you if you believe Jesus wasnt a Jew. He was born where? Look at his LINAGE he was the son of who? David and Abraham, who where what? Jews. Gen 14:13 states Abraham was Hebrew (jew) Jer 34:9 specifically says all Hebrews are Jews.
Heb 7:14 clearly states Jesus was born from Judah( which is where the term Jew derives from)
His mother was a Jew from the house of David (Luke 1:27, 32-34, 3:23-31)
From the KJV (which is what I have been quoting from, and I have looked at about 15 different KJV 1611 and they all are translated as I have posted them, Please direct me to this special version you have) Jer 34: 9That every man should let his manservant, and every man his maidservant, being an Hebrew or an Hebrewess, go free; that none should serve himself of them, to wit, of a Jew his brother.
Even his earthly father which doesnt matter much but still even he was a Jew Matt. 1:6-16.
Matt. 2:2 says Jesus is king of what? THE JEWS!!!
Luke 2:21 shows he was circumcised according to the laws and traditions of? The Jews!!!
John 4:9 states clearly that he was a JEW!!! 9Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
John 4:9 "Yahudim" = member of the tribe of Yahudah (Judah), i.e. definitively Israelite, non-Jew
Matt. 1:6-16, Luke 2:21 = Yahushua was an Israelite, of the tribe of Yahudah, house and line of David on both sides, circumcised according to the customs of the Israelites, i.e. no possibility whatsover of being a Jew
REX IUDEORUM = leader/chief/king of the Judeans, i.e. definitely Israelite, non-Jew
The entire Old and New Testament proclaims that Jesus Yeshua the Messiah the Christ will be a Descendant of Jewish Heritage.
If you argue against this fact then you are arguing against the Testimonies of the entire Word of God and not me. The fact that you cant see the obviousness that Jesus Yeshua was indeed a Jew shows me how little understanding you have of the Word and why your logic on Original Sin is WRONG!! Lol wow ur a funny person.
O and also for your WRONG assertion that Chapter 7 was strictly a personal retrospective and sin only applied to him cuz he was a JEW, Please look at this verse
Romans 3: 9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that THEY ARE ALL UNDER SIN;
He outright teaches that ALL SIN the Jews and Greeks(ones without the LAW)
Also to whom was the letter addressed? The Church in ROME!
Please re read scripture and stop denying the Word of God!
I can hardly fathom how you could have missed that Sha'ul converted from Judaism, which was the whole reason he was so evil, to Christianity, and then go on from there to suggest that "Jesus Yeshua" was a Jew, or that every Hebrew is a Jew, etc. Since you're not an atheist, you must be an Afrocentrist. I'm right, huh? Brainwashing knows no bounds.
What on earth are you talking about? You think I am Black wow you are a terrible Judger The faith of the israelites is Judaism that is what Jesus adhered to. I am saying that Jesus was a descendant of that faith and practice to say He didnt or wasnt is to deny every practice and tradition and custom he followed
Please show me where in the bible it shows a different religion than Judaism being practiced in the old testament show me the distinction between whatever faith you say he has and Judaism
Rom 3: 22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23FOR ALL HAVE SINNED, and come short of the glory of God;
To say that all HAVE sinned is not the same as to say that all DO sin, and to be UNDER sin is not the same as to say that one is INHERENTLY SINFUL. If you have a problem with the English language, then feel free to use something you're more comfortable with. Otherwise you're bound by its rules.
There. Now that I've thoroughly debunked your position, how about addressing mine, as stated, for instance, in the video description (1 John 3:7-10)?
PS If you dare to blaspheme the son of man again on my channel, you will simply be blocked. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say that "Jesus" was a Jew. EVERYWHERE it indicates that he and every other prophet of Israel was fervently opposed to Judaism. Do yourself a favor. Read the parable of the Good Samaritan, watch my videos, and pray to YHWH to send you the Set-Apart Spirit. Also, read the 1611 KJV and tell me if you see the word 'Jew' in it.
And ps if you block me for pointing out things to you I dont agree with and try to have a discussion about it so be just goes to show what type of person you are not me lol
I didn't block you. I'm just ignoring you. I've got better things to do than read your rubbish and/or argue with petty Internet trolls... like educate people who actually want to know the truth.
nice vid. just wanted to correct 0:27 according to scripture, man was not made inherently sinful but good and in the image of God. sin only entered the world/human race after creation via the transgression of Adam & Eve. as i am typing this, i can't help but think that sin and potential sin must have always existed. however, perhaps man was created good in the sense that he was ignorant of sin. so therefore, once their eyes had become open, they were now guilty of what they knew.
do you think the forbidden fruit of Genesis (knowledge of good/evil) symbolizes man's eyes opening to duality? is sin simply duality? forgive me for ranting, but i seem to be flowing with ideas right now. your thoughts would be much appreciated.
We mustn't come to idle debates and arguments about something that is inevitably a lie. Adam/Eve were tempted, as we are every day. The bases of original sin is false. It's not doctrine spoken of by the Prophets, Jesus, or his Disciples and Apostles. The word mentions NOTHING about original sin in it. This doctrine is man made, this has no power at all, less one really decides to follow it as most Catholics may obviously do. Sin against the Father is to transgress his commandments. Shalom
malakhhatzadik, you have also got it wrong but i don't care. It's is hard enough being perfect without having to point out everyone's imperfections including all these religions.
Look...it's simple. The original sin doctrine (just like Easter and Christmas) is a lie in itself. True enough, we sin daily, that 's why we repent daily. Even the thought of sin is a sin my friends. Paul admitted this clearly. He had a demon that tormented him so that he would continously be on his face in prayer. Unless you are sealed with the Holy Spirit, you will be no means enter the kingdom of the Father in Heaven. Jesus/Yashua/Yashayah is the way. Jesus is his name. Shalom.
To enter heaven one has to be holy. This is only possible with the Grace of God, through faith in Jesus. God knew that without his Grace we will never live in holiness and never enter heaven. So Jesus died on the cross to reconcile us to God. Once reconciled we are able to receive his Grace by the power of the Holy Spirit who will transform our heart of stone to hearts of flesh. Our hearts of flesh then allow us to live in holiness which will give us entrance into heaven.
"Jesus answered, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." Were you in agreement with me or were you at odds with me, my friend?
Even if my belief is at odds with yours you are still a friend. The doctrine of original state that we received a fallen nature prone to sin and that Jesus Christ came to save us from our sinfulness. see my above comment. Peace
God tells us that man's heart is exceedingly wicked,who can know it,we all have gone astray and have all together become worthless,No one seeks after God and all our good works are filthy menstrual rags before God.Sounds like were pretty depraved.
In order for there to be any substance whatsoever to the doctrine of original sin, you have to be in a state of sin (sinful) both before and after the alleged act of salvation. If you're a sinner, you're not a son/daughter of Elohim. Some are, some aren't, period. It's the "Christians" who ADMIT to being sinners and refuse to believe that there is any possibility that anyone could not be, that are the sinners. There is no original sin doctrine in any other religion/belief system.
Does the term "logic" mean anything to you? Do you think your willful ignorance and stupidity are even justified much less condoned in scripture, or by the teachings of Christ? You don't even know where you're going. You don't even know what the way IS. You are blind, and have been led into the ditch. You've mistaken the messenger for the message. Christ is the way, THE TRUTH and the life. If you don't have the truth, you don't have the way either. Wake up!
Lies come wrapped in all kinds of different disguises so as to deceive the simple minded.
Your presentation is in error because man is born into sin and is inherently sinful,the very fact that we have laws points this out.
Do you see the bigotry in what you are saying? At 4:22 you use a quote from Matthew yet you down play other portions of scripture that refute the fact that mankind is prone to sin apart from the Spirit of God at work within him.
You argue against a thesis by assuming the antithesis? How is that logical or scientific? The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate how the logic I've employed and the passages I've cited (for example, in the video description) do not support my contention. Otherwise it stands to reason.
Quite the contrary. I believe you have made a statement based not on what's in the Bible, but what you wish to follow. If it wasn't YOUR interpretation, then you don't want any part of it.
Man's intellect is an amoeba next to The Lord's, yet so many seek to destroy His church. The sad thing is, you will not succeed, as His church is not made by man, but by Him, and under His protection.
I know a catholic, and his church posts how much each person donates every week in the front of the church as you walk in, and if you don't donate much or at all the other members look down at you (him). SIGH
Sorry...I'd have to call BS on that one. I've been a Roman Catholic all my life and have NEVER seen any 'tally sheet' that showed each parishoner's donations. That one is nonsense. We put what we can spare into the basket, and IT'S ANONYMOUS to the church.
Wery god videos. But the mother of all sins is selfrighteusness!
Power of sin is the law. The Jew was trying to keep the law, satans weapon is the law, thats way jesu says teyr the sed of satan. hasatan=one who acuses u by law
Doctrine of Original Sin is and erroneous doctrine.
Prophet Ezekiel [Chapter 33] refuted this doctrine that the proverb "Fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge" would no longer be accepted.
Jesus the Nazerene teaching's were of responsibility and SELF-accountabilty for ones actions: what we now call Human Rights advocate/defender
Islam calls Jesus' teachings Jihad and what science call same teachings human development [physical & ethical].
I press on toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of Elohim in Messiah יהושע. As many, then, as are perfect, should have this mind. Philippians 3: 14-15
You heard that it was said to those of old, You shall not murder, and whoever murders shall be liable to judgment. But I say to you that whoever is wroth with his brother without a cause shall be liable to judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raka! shall be liable to the Sanhedrin. But whoever says, You fool! shall be liable to fire of Gehenna. Matthew 5: 21-22
Yahushua called himself the "Son of Adam." You make a sinner of him then when you say that we are sinners because of Adam, thereby negating your own Jewish/Satanic doctrine of absolution by atonement.
But now, having been set free from sin, and having become servants of Elohim, you have your fruit resulting in set-apartness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the favourable gift of Elohim is everlasting life in Messiah יהושע our Master. Romans 6: 22
The one who says, I know Him, and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Elohim has been perfected in him....The one who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in the darkness until now. The one who loves his brother stays in the light, and there is no stumbling-block in him....the lust of the flesh...—is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world passes away. 1 John 2
There is nothing "Roman Catholic" about that picture. Okay, if it had a big heart or it was a crucifix or something, then okay... but otherwise that's like saying "Why use the Bible? Very Protestant Christian!"
Yahushua does not belong to the Church in any sense whatsoever.
"Not everyone who says to Me,"Master Master," shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of MY Father in the heavens." Mat. 7:21
"And then I shall declare to them, "I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!" Mat. 7:23
Sin is a choice, not something we can't control.
Our minds are trained to sin by our surroundings, turn off your tv's. Remove materialism from your lives, and a little bit of critical thinking ;) Love is much more profitable :)
"But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death." The Scriptures version
Media sells illusions of what they want you to be, stop sinning :)
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
Also read Ezekiel chapter 18 you are responsible and you have a free will stop making excuses. Jesus is not your Saviour he is not the God-man that you have been taught in your churches. Truth is not taught in churches only man's doctrines because they themselves are lost. Note there are only a few that find the truth, according to Matt7:13-14 narrow way. You will know them by their fruits bad tree will produce bad fruits. Seek the truth while you have the opportunity to.
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There are other examples of repentance such as Zachaeus in Luke Ch.19:1-10 again there must be deeds of repentance, as Zachaeus who was a tax collector and that he had stolen from others. So he gave back what he had stolen four fold, you see you must understand that you have sin against God and make recompense for it. Examine what is written in 2 Corinthians 7: 8-11 it is explicted what must take place in true repentance and you must search your heart. Jesus is our example not our saviour.
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For example, In the Old Testament in the book of Jonah, Jonah preach to the Ninevites in chapter 3 ver 5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, proclaimed a fast,and put on sackcloth, from the greatest to the least of them. These people believed what God had proclaim to them they took it serious and by their belief within their hearts they acted upon it by proclaiming a fast and putting on sackcloth. You see unless you seek the truth with all of your mind and heart, you will be fool.
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As we do sinned we must seek God and repent. What do I mean by repentance it is not what the church teaches to say a prayer and tell God that you are sorry. God is not mocked, he is able to see your heart and knows if you are serious or not. For example if we borrow someone's car and then we damage it and bring it back to someone and say I am sorry that is not repentance. We must make it right we either fix the car or we have someone repair it. Another words we are reconcile with that person.
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For example In Genesis 4:6 "So the Lord said to Cain, why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it." So what is taken place here is that you have a free will here, note this is after Adam's sin so it is possible to do right instead of wrong. Original sin is a excuse by those who will not take responsibility to do what is right in our heart.
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Orignal sin is a lie, we are born innocent from our mother womb. The men who preach this stuff (original sin) was created by Augustine in the 4th century. The Church (Roman Catholics) began to teach this also and Martin Luther and Calvin because they never turn away completely from the Catholic church. We have a conscience that is given to us by God when we enter this world, therefore we are innocent until we know the difference between right and wrong. We are responsible at that point.
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The concept of orginal sin makes no sense. Crearte a PROBLEM: Convince the ignorant masses that there is a jealous God, that they are cursed with sin as soon as they are born. Unless they are "saved", they will suffer eternal punishment. REACTION: The fearful masses submit to the dictates of the church to be "saved". SOLUTION: Those men who wrote this fiction, called the Bible, offer salvation. All it takes is money and blind obedience from the ignorant masses
Mrgruffy44 1 month ago
"Access to hidden areas is reserved for customers who have made financial donations or purchased our e-books and e-book packages." (from your website's home page) whoever came up with this is a hypocrit who enjoys twisting the gospel and truth to fit into their own little web of deception, this is only successful at convincing the weak and feeble minded. But hey, the world is full of them so why not take advantage right? Those who resemble the deceiver are well known for their ability to deceive
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'image' as such, is a very very thin slice, and NO actual substance of the original.
makahru 5 months ago
Can this vids assertions be right N one still hold a theological positions of origonal sin N total depravity,.. as long as it means by definition something different than the doctrinal version.. yes I believe so..
CRISwraith 6 months ago
@CRISwraith Adam's descendants have inherited lies which have polluted their minds and made them prone to sin. This does not mean that they are sinful BY NATURE and that they can't do anything to escape being in a perpetual state of sinfulness, but rather that they are sinful by NURTURE, and righteousness entails cutting oneself off from the world of vices. Catholic/"Christian" doctrines like original sin strongly discourage this, thereby perpetuating/causing the sin-state.
malakhhatzadik 6 months ago
@malakhhatzadik Loved this video SO MUCH! :) Ezekiel 18:20 completely DESTROYS original sin doctrine! Jesus is come in the flesh! 1 John 2:22! Therfore, He is in us and our fruits should show He is in us! Galatians 5:22-23! So if Jesus is in us when we accept Him, then does this mean Jesus is a sinner? According to original sin doctrine - ABSOLUTELY! Original sin is FALSE! Loved your video! 1 question - what song is playing on your video "The Truth About the Catholic Church"?
Danielezerable 6 months ago
@Danielezerable Why should I answer when you are sending me hatemail?
malakhhatzadik 6 months ago
@malakhhatzadik So what your saying is you a rational man does not sin. u dont lie steal fornicate etc...
hesicast 3 months ago
@hesicast That's the idea. The Bible declares repeatedly that no one who does those things will inherit everlasting life, but not that no one will.
malakhhatzadik 2 months ago
@malakhhatzadik I am not sure what you mean, Define original sin. What is it and how is it interpeted by the early Fathers of the Church. Is the message of God only contained in the Bibleetc.... I am not sure where u or the video is comin from. It seemes Gnostic to me, please correct me if I am wrong.
hesicast 2 months ago
@hesicast "Is the message of God only contained in the Bible" -- The Bible itself declares otherwise. Original sin is the idea that everyone on the planet has inherited a sinful nature from Adam and Eve and is therefore in need of redemption even if they have already been redeemed. i.e. You're a sinner by nature and God thinks of you as a sinner even if you don't sin.
malakhhatzadik 1 month ago
@malakhhatzadik who does not sin? and i agree the bible does declare otherwise, but where does the word of God also exist? Is there an authority a point of reference? Also does your call name refer to the royal preisthood? I had read that this was the pre figuration of Christ?
hesicast 1 month ago
@hesicast "who does not sin?" Anyone who isn't sinning, obviously. "but where does the word of God also exist?" If it's not within you, then look around you. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse (Romans 1:20). "Also does your call name refer to the royal preisthood?" It refers to Yahshuah, the high priest, the point of reference.
malakhhatzadik 1 month ago
@malakhhatzadik Forgive me again, you said anyone who is not sinning.obviously. Can u specify anyone one, point us in that direction so we have an exaple of a stainless person for we need a living example. And forgive me again how can i trust Roman 1:20 if Paul added and suptracted to the Word as you have said.
hesicast 1 month ago
@CRISwraith And what, exactly would that consist of? Seeing how the doctrine doesn't specify but rather defines original sin as essentially the opposite of the video's assertions, I think it's self-evident that to hold a contrary view is to deny the premise of the original sin doctrine, and that it would therefore be illogical (and wrong) to hold both views simultaneously.
malakhhatzadik 2 months ago
Sounds like there is alot of twisting in this video twisting of words revelation teaches against that....rev.2218-21
TheFirestorm304 7 months ago
@TheFirestorm304 Maybe it's the Church that's doing the twisting and you have misinterpreted the light for the darkness and vice-versa, what do you think? Revelation also teaches against casual dismissal and apathy.
malakhhatzadik 7 months ago
in the book of Psalm if u read chapter 51 verse 7 TRUE, I WAS BORN GUILTY, A SINNER EVEN AS MY MOTHER CONCEIVED ME. This proves that we were born with the original sin but Jesus came and cleansed us and in his mercy forgave us for our sins and changed us to be his children.
jesus4you1000 7 months ago
for those who believe....Yes itis true we can live a sinless life, it is difficult, but one who truley follows the Lord will not continue to sin or live in it, Jesus was fully man and fully God. He was the only one who was qualified to die, be sacrificed on a cross (or tree) for the sins of man cus he was sinless, he faced all the temptation of man but also remember he also fasted for 40 days to comit Himself to His father in prayer so he can be more prepared to continue His sinless life.
prowily1 9 months ago
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interesting video...Check out my vid on how the Adam and Eve story is corrupted.
feliztx 9 months ago
Overkill, overkill, overkill!! Another name for Satan is ACCUSER.
codyglicknahnah 10 months ago
@PatchouliNoir Well done.
malakhhatzadik 10 months ago
Powerful video. Scary almost.
Sheeplvl2 1 year ago
God made man in his image, we are gods but our father is greater than us, still we need to remember this, you have the power to do anything ,get to know your soul which is part of the creator's body
snackbox1989 1 year ago
Original sin is a roman innovation,in order to annihilate Europeans peoples,especially northerns white peoples(celts,germanics and scandinavians).Romans had a lot of difficulties to maintain their yoke on the gallia and germany after the conquest.
olbodala 1 year ago 2
we have ALL sinned even if we did it when we were young and werent conscious of it, e.g. impatience, self-centredness etc. its arrogant to think otherwise. claiming we are ALWAYS going to sin throughout our life and can do nothing to stop is WRONG, but we all have sinned at some point in the past.
musicbox2345 1 year ago
I hope you respond so here goes. The Bible is replete with statements of mans sin, Adam fell and we being his offspring continue in the sin nature passed down from Adam. The continued sacrifices the need to live by Faith, all indicate man has a sin problem that needs to be cleansed. Look at Isaiha before the LORD they took a coal off the alter to cleanse him. Romans clearly tells us All have sinned and fallen Short of GOD's Glory. Jesus Christ redeemed us from this by the NEW BIRTH. answer okay.
007jjb 1 year ago
@007jjb Say something worth responding to other than the same run-of-the-mill propaganda/brainwashing every other "Christian" advocates, and I may not have already debunked it. Once again I find myself repeating what seems so obvious... to say that all HAVE sinned is NOT to say that all DO sin, or that we are all BORN INTO sin. Don't bother arguing. I teach English.
If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent. Matthew 12:7
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
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Greyswyndir 1 year ago
Right on, Mal. You can throw "free will" on the pile too. We've definitely been lied to.
deadtoo 1 year ago
• There is no original sin. Adam is tested to indicate that he has a free will. He disobeyed his Lord. Then he asked Him to efface his sin and to grant him forgiveness and to have mercy on him. Then His Lord turned to him with mercy, guided him and chose him for HIS grace. Hence, some of the beautiful qualities of God appeared. God is Just and Fair. He doesn't punish any one because of the sins of the others.
mesrlover1 1 year ago 2
The Letter to the Romans was Paul, unconscious attempt to blame the whole world and the alleged sinful nature of man for the assassination of Yeshua. Saul had persecuted the followers of Yeshua and his guilt feelings were great. From this letter is that the doctrine of original sin originates. Somebody else specify it as a Christian Doctrine, but the original concept was created by Paul to justify his sins and blame the whole world for the assassination of Yeshua and his followers.
zekigpr 1 year ago
@zekigpr You blatantly don't understand it (Romans). The doctrine of original sin DOES NOT COME FROM THE BIBLE. PERIOD.
For not the hearers of the Torah are righteous in the sight of Elohim, but the doers of the law shall be declared right. For when gentiles, who do not have the Torah, by nature do what is in the Torah, although not having the Torah, they are a Torah to themselves, who show the work of the Torah written in their hearts. Romans 2:13-15
original sin?? ha.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
More proof from Romans that Paul would have rejected original sin (there are many):
-if an uncircumcised one watches over the righteousness of the Torah, shall not his uncircumcision be reckoned as circumcision? And the uncircumcised by nature, who perfects the Torah, shall judge you who notwithstanding letter and circumcision are a transgressor of the Torah!
-where there is no Torah there is no transgression.
-For sin shall not rule over you, for you are not under the law but under favour.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
@malakhhatzadik They are of the world, therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of Elohim -- the one knowing Elohim hears us. By this we know the Spirt of the Truth and the Spirt of the delusion. I YOHANAN 4V5-6.
chadashbanyah 1 year ago
@malakhhatzadik Yes,you're right,it's like the crucifixion of yeshua,who wasn't on a cross,but on a pillory.Roman crucifixion was on a pillory.In France,we have this expression:nailed to the pillory.
For the original sin,it's a roman innovation in order to control celto-germanics peoples,or others peoples who were conquered by romans.
olbodala 1 year ago 2
Here is another viewpoint: Yeshua send his disciples to preach two different messages: To the Jews who had rebelled against God he preached repentance and conversion. To the nations who had not known the law of Yah, he send the disciples to teach the law as interpreted by Yeshua. Unfortunately Paul, who was not a disciple but a Pharisee, created the doctrine of universal guilt to take away the guilt of the Jews from killing the Anointed One and place it upon the unsuspecting gentiles.
zekigpr 1 year ago
@zekigpr Paul didn't invent the doctrine of original sin. The Roman Catholic Church did--and in particular the Manichaean heretic Augustine of Hippo. All we really know of Paul is what's in the Bible pertaining to him, and it has no substance whatsoever in the Bible.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
Great stuff man. God has called his people to come out of the whore(organized religion) yet people are still afraid of the truth. You wonder how something as holy as the living word of Christ has anything to do with a multi-billion dollar industry, which is evangelism. So many billions have built grand churches and temples, yet there are still hundreds of millions poor, hungry, sick and dying of disease. Most of these churches are 'whoring' God's people using fear, and intimidation.
tA8806 1 year ago
Therefore, perhaps Original Sin is twisted and wrong but the important thing is- man can not do good without knowing first what is good. Unless a man follows God's will (God's will is good) then we are to be subject to sin (anything that is not of God's will).
It does not matter that we were originally good, we still do not know the diffrence between good and evil therefore we are subject to a sinful nature without guidance from God.
quirky0907 1 year ago
Yes, Elohim made us in his image and said we were good-
"And Elohim saw all that He had made,and see, it was very good."
Though, why does Elohim tell us we are wicked?
“If you then, being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children..." Mathew 7:11 If we do not know what is good, how can we walk in a good path? As you have said before- "We must know the doctrine" from Elohim- then we can know of what is Good and Evil in order to direct our paths.
quirky0907 1 year ago
@quirky0907 I agree with your second point / overall conclusion, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that "Christians" are being fed a whole bunch of nonsense and that it actually causes them to sin. Re: Matthew 7, Yahushuah was speaking to a bunch of Jews. That is hardly applicable to all people as a universal truth. I, for one, will not suffer being grouped with them, nor should you. peace
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
@malakhhatzadik I agree with you that there are many lies out there that are diluting the Christian religion.
Though, I do not believe that you can throw out Matthew 7 just because it was said to Jews. I know I have seen you quote it yourself in several locations including Matthew 7:13 “Enter in through the narrow gate!".
quirky0907 1 year ago
@quirky0907 I don't throw it out, or anything else in scripture for that matter. It just doesn't apply here. Original sin asserts that we are ALL sinful by nature. I don't dispute that Jews are. It's a matter of paradigms. A good tree bears good fruit just like a bad tree bears bad fruit. If they were "men first," then Yahushuah wouldn't have called them sons of the devil, and a generation of snakes, etc. Scripture needs to be considered in its context or it will never be properly understood.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
@malakhhatzadik Regardless that you yourself have used Matthew, the statements are in fact Universal to all of man. Where does it say, though if only you are a Jew. Do you believe we should throw out ever passage that was said to men who were Jews? They may have been Jews, but they were men first.
quirky0907 1 year ago
@malakhhatzadik Sorry, I notice my grammar and writing of my last post is not up to par at this time of night. Though I think you can understand what I was saying. (ever-every*)
quirky0907 1 year ago
Take away the religious portion at the end and this video is hitting the nail on the head. Come on, wake up! Satan is not a real entity, it's a boogeyman, invented to scare one into becoming subservient to religion and government. You have an inherent right to do as you please as long as you do not interfere in the rights of others to do the same and as long as you do not steal, defraud or do physical damage to another person, or his/her property.
WitchWindy 1 year ago
@WitchWindy What if you're wrong? What if someone could prove it to you, and in fact HAS proved it but you just weren't paying attention? Doesn't that mean YOU are the one who has been duped into being subservient? There are none so enslaved...
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
Dude man by his fallen nature is sinful! Sin was Never Gods intention. But man IS fallen. Proof? You don't have to teach a kid to be bad But you must teach him to be good. Yes religion sucks but did you ever try to understand Biblical Christianity? Man will always try to make merchantdize of you even in the spiritual relm. Caveat emptor. I don't buy lies but you are missing the boat.
carpavel 1 year ago
@carpavel If the kid you're referring to was never accustomed to the privations of the society he/she was being raised in, he/she would certainly not need to be told how to act. Like it or not, you're wrong, and if you don't know that it's only because of your own ignorance, not anything having to do with this video's failure to provide enough substantiation to refute your arguments which I have done in depth in my other videos. Speaking of Biblical Christianity, you should watch them.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
But Satan might, could you tell the difference?
ph34rn0d34th 1 year ago
@ph34rn0d34th What's the point of asking me this? If you want to know what the messenger is about without being deceived, focus on the message, not the messenger. The message: original sin is a lie. Satan is the father of lies.
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
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all "theories" are artificially created to implement in human mind ideologies of CREATION, CHOSEN MESSIANIC BLOODLINE, MONOTHEISM - from religious perspective, and...if you don't agree - with religious ideologies with secular ones - EVOLUTION, OUT OF AFRICA THEORY
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
If an angel would appear to you in the night, and he states he is an angel sent by God to deliver a message, would you listen? If the angel states that all of the religious beliefs on Earth are incorrect, and tells you the truth about what God's will is, would you listen?
If an angel would appear before you and tells you your ways are false, would you believe him, or rebuke him with citations of scripture? Would you expect a trick of Satan? Would you be willing to spread the word, if asked?
ph34rn0d34th 1 year ago
@ph34rn0d34th God does not deceive people.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
When you speak of no sin without law, are you referring to Romans 4:15?Concerning these assertions, what does this passage mean to you "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law" Romans 2:12. The following passages also mention that even without law, it is still written on their hearts...so essentially there is no place or time without some sort of law. What does this mean?
KrigareavGud 1 year ago
@KrigareavGud "What does this mean?" What it DOESN'T mean is original sin. The Bible does not contradict itself. Paul didn't believe this nonsense any more than any of the other writers, and to interpret his epistles to ascribe a doctrine to him which didn't even exist until the 3rd century is logically fallacious, and a denial of the apostolic succession through Ananias.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
All religions are false, its that simple. Islam,Christianity, Buddhism, New Age, UFOlogy,Satanism, Paganism, Environmentalism, Bahai, and so on. Religion is based on deception, and they deceived you into believing nonsense, and they keep you from the truth in the long run,for answers that are false, and destructive.
KevZen2000 1 year ago
Nice video, it sounds very gnostic.
colombus66 1 year ago
Read St. Augustine or John Calvin.
You'll be a believer in Original Sin as taught in the Bible. :)
smartwarlord 1 year ago
Augustine was the biggest waste of time I've ever spent on something. Unfortunately Calvin's relative acumen (and I say relative because of the complete lack of insight by the other so-called Reformers) can't retroactively make original sin Biblical. Nor does your casual disregard for the truths presented in this video. Truth is truth regardless of what anyone has to say about it, and scripture cannot be broken.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
This world makes no sense without total depravity.
Suicide makes no sense either.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
??? So God is a liar, science is bunk, and the world is flat? You must be right. After all, the great St. Augustine clearly stated as much (De Civitate Dei, xvi, 9).
Actually the world makes PERFECT sense as a sphere, without sin/privation and depravity. Not that any "Christian" can possibly fathom the meaning of that since it comes from the Bible and stands in direct opposition to Augustine's Manichaeism...
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
Spit blasphemy as much as you want.
The Truth stands.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
Do you even know the meaning of the word "blasphemy"? If you can't tell the difference between truth and error when it is plainly explained to you on the most elementary level, at least have an original thought. My argument is what stands here.
The time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me." John 16:2-3
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us.
2 Thessalonians 3:14 If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
1 Timothy 6:3-4 If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions,
2 John 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting
smartwarlord 1 year ago
Titus 3:10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
smartwarlord 1 year ago
Little children, let no one lead you astray. The one doing righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous. 1John 3:7
Argue with that. Go on. Or admit that you have traded the oracles of God for the traditions of wicked men.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
The main objective or target of the right religion is to change the usual man into a superman. The superman is sinnles, righteous, pure, and perfect. The natural man is born without sins. He must act to avoid falling into sins. He must act to purify himself and to improve his essential nature. The priesthood is nothing but a weapon in the hand of devil.
mesrlover1 1 year ago
There is no original sin. Adam is tested to indicate that he has a free will. He disobeyed his Lord. Then he asked Him to efface his sin and to grant him forgiveness and to have mercy on him. Then His Lord turned to him with mercy, guided him and chose him for HIS grace. Hence, some of beautiful qualities of God appears. God is Just and Fair. He doesn't punish any one because of the sins of the others.
mesrlover1 1 year ago
Okay.
loveworthfinding 1 year ago
He doesn't punish any one because of the sins of the others
mesrlover1 1 year ago
I'm wondering if it's true that there's no such thing as original sin, has the creator of this video managed to avoid sinning all together?
loveworthfinding 1 year ago
He is as good as any man. I have yet to see a single sin of omission or commission from him in the year or so that I've known him. Moreover, it doesn't matter that he's a good man. Original sin is illogical. Period.
malakhhatzadik 1 year ago
I've become a fairly ardent watcher of this channel. I have a lot of difficulties with many of the things he says, but, in many cases, (if only by my own research) he appears to be correct. I can't confirm or deny half of what he's talking about, but, that alone should make any watchers of his channel more mindful of the truth, and less willing to shout accusations. We all do remember whom the original accuser was, don't we? In any case, even if he's off, kudos for trying. I've learned much
jdavz1803 2 years ago
When all this comes true--and it surely will--then they will know that a prophet has been among them. Ez 33:33
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
well if the first sin was desire, or "knowing" what "god" maybe didnt want us to know and be "like" him, then being born into sin would mean that we are born with freedoms and knowledge either from past lives or knowlegde that we all have that connection with the creation. thats why the teachings of the christ were taken and perverted, to keep everyone in a victim consciousness mind state. to say we were born into sin is admitting that the creator is unperfect, is playing us like a game
hotelbleustar 2 years ago
@malakhhatzadik thanks for all this
fmandwc2 2 years ago
all are born in sin
5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. 12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
by the way im not defending Catholicism.
peace
sirpryde 2 years ago
You don't even understand the doctrine. You haven't supported it at all. Yes, sin entered the world from one man, but there WAS only one man! Don't you think Paul would have said that ALL were made sinners instead of "many" if he meant all? And again, if one man said his mother was a sinner, how does that mean that he is necessarily a sinner by nature?
Everyone having been born of Elohim does not sin, because His seed stays in him, and he is powerless to sin, because he has been born of Elohim.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
first off your attitude is appalling, if you want me to respond at least sort that out first eh.
Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
ALL
please spare me commenting again we could be friends but youd probably rather argue.
sirpryde 2 years ago
First of all I used all 500 characters, so it would have been inappropriate to try to appeal to your overly emotional sense of pride, and if I were to stoop to doing that every time some random sheep wanted to use incredibly base arguments which I've already preempted and refuted hundreds of times in the videos and comments, I'd never get anywhere. Count them if you wish.
Secondly, as I've stated NUMEROUS times, to say that all HAVE sinned is not to say that all DO sin.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
And you're right, I'd rather argue, because you decided to argue a point which inevitably makes God the biggest A-hole ever, and I'm not okay with that. You should choose your battles more wisely, then you won't have to run away from them. You are such an avid sinner that you think EVERYONE else is to, contrary to scripture and plain reason. How could I be friends with such a person? What communion does the light have with darkness?
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
o here we go all opinion you havnt proven anything.
sirpryde 2 years ago
So you were born a sinner. Were you born a fool too, or did you have to work on it?
I most certainly HAVE proved the veracity of scripture against your doctrines of devils, as any idiot SHOULD be able to plainly see. Too bad the sheep are just sheep and the wolves are all too ravenous...
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
also i cant belive you totaly ignored
12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
it even says ALL MEN and ALL HAVE SINNED
seriously dude your digging your grave arguing with with the lord they are not my words im merely uttering what he said its not my glory :)
sirpryde 2 years ago 5
Also I can't believe you totally ignored "Everyone having been born of Elohim does not sin, because His seed stays in him, and he is powerless to sin." Not really. I fully expected it.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Perhaps I haven't made myself clear. Belief is for the superstitious; knowledge is for the enlightened. Knowledge dispels superstition.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Religion is for sheep. Truth is for the elect.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Here is my take on "Original Sin" i believe that it should be referred to the Nature of us to constantly sin.. Proven in the world by taking 2 infants put a toy in front of them they both want n they will fight over it till one yields you break it up and if possible i am sure they would literally try and kill each other for it... This is something that is in every single person on the face of the earth we are inclined to sin over doing good more or less but thats not to say we...
daciple 2 years ago
are in capable of doing good.. I dont believe in Total Depravity.. Now your first 2 quotes were from BEFORE the fall..Yes we were created in HIS image and it was very good, but then we (humankind) fell and the nature to sin over do good has been past to each of us from then on... Now you also quote Matt 5:48 trying to make the point we should be sinless and perfect.. Sorry but we will never be sinless and perfect..
daciple 2 years ago
1 John 1: 8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Only because of the Blood of the Lamb and our faith in Him and His works are we considered righteous in the eyes of the Lord. We ourselves will never be righteous on our own accord or by our own works
daciple 2 years ago
As paul shows in Rom 7: 14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
daciple 2 years ago
19For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law;
daciple 2 years ago
23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
daciple 2 years ago
Paul still sinned, He battled it Daily as we all do and he also teaches that we ALL have Sinful Nature.. I believe this is the "original sin" that was passed down to us from adam... Rom 5: 12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:..
The idea that Sin Nature was passed from Adam to all and death from sin was also passed is DEF taught in Scripture!! But many man made idealistic have been created around that
daciple 2 years ago
That Truth.. Such as purgatory and infant baptism and infants going to HELL ect ect. which I don NOT believe in cuz its NOT taught in the Word of God... I believe that there is an age of accountability that is different for each person based on maturity levle where you can truly understand right from wrong and the work of Salvation.. I believe its around 12-20 and if you look up ex 30:14 20 is the age that Israelites had to being making Sacrifices and 13 is when they have bar/bat mitzvah.
daciple 2 years ago
Which I believe is also confirmed by the life of Jesus and the New testament in Luke 2: 42And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
This is why I think 12 is the only age pointed out from His birth till 30ish at the start of His ministry,and since Jesus was a JEW it only makes sense that He would also have had a bar mitzvah!!!
daciple 2 years ago
"Jesus" was NOT a Jew. Dude, that's so basic. Wow.
Without the law there is no sin. Not everyone has the law, and not everyone sins. Read the book of Romans. Paul's personal introspection in chapter 7 doesn't apply to everyone. He was a Pharisee, a legalistic Jew, a blasphemer and a persecutor and murderer of Christians, born and sold under the law and under sin. Your statemet that "Sorry but we will never be sinless and perfect" is a sophism, an error, a contravention of scripture.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
I cannot ever try and have a rational argument with you if you believe Jesus wasnt a Jew. He was born where? Look at his LINAGE he was the son of who? David and Abraham, who where what? Jews. Gen 14:13 states Abraham was Hebrew (jew) Jer 34:9 specifically says all Hebrews are Jews.
Heb 7:14 clearly states Jesus was born from Judah( which is where the term Jew derives from)
His mother was a Jew from the house of David (Luke 1:27, 32-34, 3:23-31)
daciple 2 years ago
Hebrew = Jew??
What on Earth are you smoking?
A Hebrew is a descendant of the biblical patriarch Eber. EVERY MUSLIM is a Jew according to your logic. lol
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
From the KJV (which is what I have been quoting from, and I have looked at about 15 different KJV 1611 and they all are translated as I have posted them, Please direct me to this special version you have) Jer 34: 9That every man should let his manservant, and every man his maidservant, being an Hebrew or an Hebrewess, go free; that none should serve himself of them, to wit, of a Jew his brother.
daciple 2 years ago
Even his earthly father which doesnt matter much but still even he was a Jew Matt. 1:6-16.
Matt. 2:2 says Jesus is king of what? THE JEWS!!!
Luke 2:21 shows he was circumcised according to the laws and traditions of? The Jews!!!
John 4:9 states clearly that he was a JEW!!! 9Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
daciple 2 years ago
John 4:9 "Yahudim" = member of the tribe of Yahudah (Judah), i.e. definitively Israelite, non-Jew
Matt. 1:6-16, Luke 2:21 = Yahushua was an Israelite, of the tribe of Yahudah, house and line of David on both sides, circumcised according to the customs of the Israelites, i.e. no possibility whatsover of being a Jew
REX IUDEORUM = leader/chief/king of the Judeans, i.e. definitely Israelite, non-Jew
And you wonder why the Jews took offense at that.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
The entire Old and New Testament proclaims that Jesus Yeshua the Messiah the Christ will be a Descendant of Jewish Heritage.
If you argue against this fact then you are arguing against the Testimonies of the entire Word of God and not me. The fact that you cant see the obviousness that Jesus Yeshua was indeed a Jew shows me how little understanding you have of the Word and why your logic on Original Sin is WRONG!! Lol wow ur a funny person.
daciple 2 years ago
O and also for your WRONG assertion that Chapter 7 was strictly a personal retrospective and sin only applied to him cuz he was a JEW, Please look at this verse
Romans 3: 9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that THEY ARE ALL UNDER SIN;
He outright teaches that ALL SIN the Jews and Greeks(ones without the LAW)
Also to whom was the letter addressed? The Church in ROME!
Please re read scripture and stop denying the Word of God!
daciple 2 years ago
I can hardly fathom how you could have missed that Sha'ul converted from Judaism, which was the whole reason he was so evil, to Christianity, and then go on from there to suggest that "Jesus Yeshua" was a Jew, or that every Hebrew is a Jew, etc. Since you're not an atheist, you must be an Afrocentrist. I'm right, huh? Brainwashing knows no bounds.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
What on earth are you talking about? You think I am Black wow you are a terrible Judger The faith of the israelites is Judaism that is what Jesus adhered to. I am saying that Jesus was a descendant of that faith and practice to say He didnt or wasnt is to deny every practice and tradition and custom he followed
Please show me where in the bible it shows a different religion than Judaism being practiced in the old testament show me the distinction between whatever faith you say he has and Judaism
daciple 2 years ago
"Please show me where in the bible it shows a different religion than Judaism"
You're kidding, right? ....
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
You are too much opsesed with Judean people
Tomislavv2 2 years ago
Rom 3: 22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23FOR ALL HAVE SINNED, and come short of the glory of God;
daciple 2 years ago
You obviously haven't watched any of my videos.
To say that all HAVE sinned is not the same as to say that all DO sin, and to be UNDER sin is not the same as to say that one is INHERENTLY SINFUL. If you have a problem with the English language, then feel free to use something you're more comfortable with. Otherwise you're bound by its rules.
There. Now that I've thoroughly debunked your position, how about addressing mine, as stated, for instance, in the video description (1 John 3:7-10)?
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
1 John 1: 8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
daciple 2 years ago
PS If you dare to blaspheme the son of man again on my channel, you will simply be blocked. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say that "Jesus" was a Jew. EVERYWHERE it indicates that he and every other prophet of Israel was fervently opposed to Judaism. Do yourself a favor. Read the parable of the Good Samaritan, watch my videos, and pray to YHWH to send you the Set-Apart Spirit. Also, read the 1611 KJV and tell me if you see the word 'Jew' in it.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
And ps if you block me for pointing out things to you I dont agree with and try to have a discussion about it so be just goes to show what type of person you are not me lol
daciple 2 years ago
I didn't block you. I'm just ignoring you. I've got better things to do than read your rubbish and/or argue with petty Internet trolls... like educate people who actually want to know the truth.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
That coke ad is a fake
clai212 2 years ago
what song is this?
seaneire 2 years ago
nice vid. just wanted to correct 0:27 according to scripture, man was not made inherently sinful but good and in the image of God. sin only entered the world/human race after creation via the transgression of Adam & Eve. as i am typing this, i can't help but think that sin and potential sin must have always existed. however, perhaps man was created good in the sense that he was ignorant of sin. so therefore, once their eyes had become open, they were now guilty of what they knew.
sentryclothes 2 years ago
do you think the forbidden fruit of Genesis (knowledge of good/evil) symbolizes man's eyes opening to duality? is sin simply duality? forgive me for ranting, but i seem to be flowing with ideas right now. your thoughts would be much appreciated.
sentryclothes 2 years ago
We mustn't come to idle debates and arguments about something that is inevitably a lie. Adam/Eve were tempted, as we are every day. The bases of original sin is false. It's not doctrine spoken of by the Prophets, Jesus, or his Disciples and Apostles. The word mentions NOTHING about original sin in it. This doctrine is man made, this has no power at all, less one really decides to follow it as most Catholics may obviously do. Sin against the Father is to transgress his commandments. Shalom
PhoenixChampion 2 years ago
malakhhatzadik, you have also got it wrong but i don't care. It's is hard enough being perfect without having to point out everyone's imperfections including all these religions.
edmack4me 2 years ago
If you say so.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Look...it's simple. The original sin doctrine (just like Easter and Christmas) is a lie in itself. True enough, we sin daily, that 's why we repent daily. Even the thought of sin is a sin my friends. Paul admitted this clearly. He had a demon that tormented him so that he would continously be on his face in prayer. Unless you are sealed with the Holy Spirit, you will be no means enter the kingdom of the Father in Heaven. Jesus/Yashua/Yashayah is the way. Jesus is his name. Shalom.
PhoenixChampion 2 years ago
To enter heaven one has to be holy. This is only possible with the Grace of God, through faith in Jesus. God knew that without his Grace we will never live in holiness and never enter heaven. So Jesus died on the cross to reconcile us to God. Once reconciled we are able to receive his Grace by the power of the Holy Spirit who will transform our heart of stone to hearts of flesh. Our hearts of flesh then allow us to live in holiness which will give us entrance into heaven.
Heb59 2 years ago
"Jesus answered, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." Were you in agreement with me or were you at odds with me, my friend?
PhoenixChampion 2 years ago 2
Even if my belief is at odds with yours you are still a friend. The doctrine of original state that we received a fallen nature prone to sin and that Jesus Christ came to save us from our sinfulness. see my above comment. Peace
Heb59 2 years ago
God does the choosing,I wasn't looking,but He chose me,so yes,I do have the TRUTH.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
"No lie is of the truth." 1 John 2:21
Obviously you weren't chosen.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
see the original sin on my page,. cain's not in adam's genealogy in the bible.
cyndrellian 2 years ago
God tells us that man's heart is exceedingly wicked,who can know it,we all have gone astray and have all together become worthless,No one seeks after God and all our good works are filthy menstrual rags before God.Sounds like were pretty depraved.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
Not all men. Not innately. It has become that way because you've turned your heart away from him, not because you were made that way.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
God says no one seeks Him ,no not one.Did you seek Him Mal?
CBALLEN 2 years ago
Gimme a break. You don't like the truth of the message so you shoot the messenger. Must be a "Christian."
I've pasted 1 John 3: 7-10 in the video description. Got anything to say about that?
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
I'm not talking about after God has adopted someone,I'm talking about before this happens.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
In order for there to be any substance whatsoever to the doctrine of original sin, you have to be in a state of sin (sinful) both before and after the alleged act of salvation. If you're a sinner, you're not a son/daughter of Elohim. Some are, some aren't, period. It's the "Christians" who ADMIT to being sinners and refuse to believe that there is any possibility that anyone could not be, that are the sinners. There is no original sin doctrine in any other religion/belief system.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Maybe that should tell you something.Christ is the only Way.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
Does the term "logic" mean anything to you? Do you think your willful ignorance and stupidity are even justified much less condoned in scripture, or by the teachings of Christ? You don't even know where you're going. You don't even know what the way IS. You are blind, and have been led into the ditch. You've mistaken the messenger for the message. Christ is the way, THE TRUTH and the life. If you don't have the truth, you don't have the way either. Wake up!
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Lies come wrapped in all kinds of different disguises so as to deceive the simple minded.
Your presentation is in error because man is born into sin and is inherently sinful,the very fact that we have laws points this out.
Do you see the bigotry in what you are saying? At 4:22 you use a quote from Matthew yet you down play other portions of scripture that refute the fact that mankind is prone to sin apart from the Spirit of God at work within him.
Original sin is a fact. Ecclesiastes 7:20
8Anya8 2 years ago
You argue against a thesis by assuming the antithesis? How is that logical or scientific? The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate how the logic I've employed and the passages I've cited (for example, in the video description) do not support my contention. Otherwise it stands to reason.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Quite the contrary. I believe you have made a statement based not on what's in the Bible, but what you wish to follow. If it wasn't YOUR interpretation, then you don't want any part of it.
Man's intellect is an amoeba next to The Lord's, yet so many seek to destroy His church. The sad thing is, you will not succeed, as His church is not made by man, but by Him, and under His protection.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
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sentryclothes 2 years ago
I know a catholic, and his church posts how much each person donates every week in the front of the church as you walk in, and if you don't donate much or at all the other members look down at you (him). SIGH
I think he has quit since then :D
EliYah0074 2 years ago
That's messed up.
KrigareavGud 2 years ago 2
what does he think of it, does he see how wrong it is?!
lucyinclonmel 2 years ago
Sorry...I'd have to call BS on that one. I've been a Roman Catholic all my life and have NEVER seen any 'tally sheet' that showed each parishoner's donations. That one is nonsense. We put what we can spare into the basket, and IT'S ANONYMOUS to the church.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Wery god videos. But the mother of all sins is selfrighteusness!
Power of sin is the law. The Jew was trying to keep the law, satans weapon is the law, thats way jesu says teyr the sed of satan. hasatan=one who acuses u by law
yhwhtsidkenu 2 years ago
Doctrine of Original Sin is and erroneous doctrine.
Prophet Ezekiel [Chapter 33] refuted this doctrine that the proverb "Fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge" would no longer be accepted.
Jesus the Nazerene teaching's were of responsibility and SELF-accountabilty for ones actions: what we now call Human Rights advocate/defender
Islam calls Jesus' teachings Jihad and what science call same teachings human development [physical & ethical].
vistavision2 2 years ago
Blasphemy! I hope you enjoy hell, boy!
PastorEzekiel 2 years ago
Hey PastorEzekiel. maybe YOU should read Ezekiel, specificity of his chapter 33 where he REFUTES the doctrine of "orignal sin".
vistavision2 2 years ago
I press on toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of Elohim in Messiah יהושע. As many, then, as are perfect, should have this mind. Philippians 3: 14-15
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
You heard that it was said to those of old, You shall not murder, and whoever murders shall be liable to judgment. But I say to you that whoever is wroth with his brother without a cause shall be liable to judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raka! shall be liable to the Sanhedrin. But whoever says, You fool! shall be liable to fire of Gehenna. Matthew 5: 21-22
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Yahushua called himself the "Son of Adam." You make a sinner of him then when you say that we are sinners because of Adam, thereby negating your own Jewish/Satanic doctrine of absolution by atonement.
But now, having been set free from sin, and having become servants of Elohim, you have your fruit resulting in set-apartness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the favourable gift of Elohim is everlasting life in Messiah יהושע our Master. Romans 6: 22
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
The one who says, I know Him, and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Elohim has been perfected in him....The one who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in the darkness until now. The one who loves his brother stays in the light, and there is no stumbling-block in him....the lust of the flesh...—is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world passes away. 1 John 2
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
Why use what amounts to an icon/graven image of Jesus at the end of this video? Very Roman Catholic! It's a forgers work, too.
Have you spotted this? watch?v=5J828rJnN5c
MandoMohan 2 years ago
There is nothing "Roman Catholic" about that picture. Okay, if it had a big heart or it was a crucifix or something, then okay... but otherwise that's like saying "Why use the Bible? Very Protestant Christian!"
Yahushua does not belong to the Church in any sense whatsoever.
malakhhatzadik 2 years ago
"Not everyone who says to Me,"Master Master," shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of MY Father in the heavens." Mat. 7:21
"And then I shall declare to them, "I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!" Mat. 7:23
Sin is a choice, not something we can't control.
Our minds are trained to sin by our surroundings, turn off your tv's. Remove materialism from your lives, and a little bit of critical thinking ;) Love is much more profitable :)
elampman74 2 years ago 2
"But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death." The Scriptures version
Media sells illusions of what they want you to be, stop sinning :)
elampman74 2 years ago
I am glad to see you still here from time to time... enlightening as always be well
rainartist 2 years ago
Awesome video :)
elampman74 2 years ago
The ANSWER Is in the BIBLE
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
JudgeD007 2 years ago 3