So the original ending was to make the world rally against an alien invasion instead of against Dr Manhattan. What would happen then? No more squid monsters would show up unless Adrian planned to make more. Wouldn't people question where the supposed aliens are?
@floooooooooooooooood The brain of this creature which was cloned from a dead psychic after Veidt aquired his brain was the key, "The brain was a psychic resonator. it would amplfy a signal pulse and broadcast it, the signal triggered by the onset of death. We coded a lot of information into that signal. Terrible information. Max Shea's descriptions of an alien world, Hira Manish's images and Linette Paley's sounds... other than those killed outright by the shock' many will be driven mad by the
...and sensitives worldwide will have bad dreams for years to come. No one will doubt this earth has met a force so dreadful it must be repelled, all former enmities set aside."
And the worldwide reaction that follows and sympathy for what NYC and America has gone through is something on the scale of 9/11 multiplied a million times over.
Just myself I prefer Gibbon's NYC imagery of the original ending which is horrific.
@floooooooooooooooood Of course the big question at the end of the story is that whether or not Rorschach's diary will be picked up by Seymour and published by The New Frontiersman revealing Veidt's whole scheme or wheither or not Seymour would pickup something else and throw it in the trashcan, or if publishing it would plunge America back towards midnight on the doomsday clock and WW3, or if nobody would believe Rorschach's diary in the first place.
In the comic only New York is affected so I dont think that everyone would unite just for New York. I like this bomb better, although I would have liked to see at least some burned skeletons lying around : )
@007MrYang if it was a bomb then a country would be to blame meaning fighting would remain, the squid offers a supernatural being that no country could have created, therefore the humans would have to band together incase of another squid, if it was a bomb then theyd just fight harder to stop the country they believed did it
@KyodaiKen1979 whats your point, im saying that even the USA would have a target for the bombing, if it was a squid who could they possibly blame, even the USA would find it impossible to find an enemy that made giant squids that werent extra terestioral
The squid was better because it allowed us to see real devastation. We saw all the horror of New York destroyed, firsthand. We saw all the carnage, and all the destroyed locations. It was horrifying, and drove home the point of what drastic lengths Veidt had gone to. In the movie, the city just blows up. It's sterile. No humanity. Seen it a million times. Just wreckage, no corpses. Yawn, so New York got blown up. Not as tragic as something like that should be.
Squid was more realistic. That of course, is not a criticism of Zack Snyder, who has adapted comic books to films better than just about anyone. The squid was more realistic because, as explained in the comic, it created a psychic "shockwave" when it died, killing more people than the teleportation did and leaving many in the world with echoes of its disturbingly unhuman thoughts. This, combined with humanity's natural zenophobia, would have united humanity in fear of more of these aliens.
@erentheca Yes it was more realistic, but probably not the best for the movie because it required all that backstory of the psychics and stuff. Much better for the book where they had time to develop all the side stories and have them all converge at the end
@KyodaiKen1979 It didn't ruin the book at all, I don't think it would have ruined the film either, but that's your opinion. I don't see how you can accept a genetically engineered PURPLE lynx, which is in the movie, but you can't accept a genetically engineered squidlike monster.
@cjavengers13 I don't understand your comment. You're telling me that the lynx was in the book, which I already know, and then you say The Squid was not in the book. Um... did we read the same book? Because The Squid WAS IN the book. The Squid was not in the film, but it was in the book. I'm sorry you hated this video, but that's alright, I didn't expect everyone to like it.
@caflagel Books and movies are entirely different. Seeing a giant squid on the screen would most likely make audiences giggle, and it would lose it's effect it had in the book. So they changed it up.
why dont we remake the bible where in the end instead of jesus being crusafied he should pull a holly wood A lister and the could be some cheap speacial effects and maybe a painfully lame double entondeur
The movie wasn't made to be understood. Due to the complex nature of the graphic novel, the movie was left with too many plot holes. As in my previous comment, the action and explosions is also studio interference.
No, the part where Nite Owl punched Ozymandias was to push on the audience the idea that what Veidt did was wrong rather than just leaving it up to us to decide as in the novel. Such is the nature of studio interference in film; we have to be told how to react.
My god the book and the movie both serve as seperate works of art and each had an ending that worked for it's medium, having a giant squid show up at the end of the film would have been absurd!!! no matter how much you set it up! the movie was awesome and the book is awesome.
Well yes, and No! if you read the novel none of the buildings are destroyed or blow'd up, just windows... why? because actually when the squid was teleported it created a massive energy that, more than like a bomb, it was a psychic wave that could kill! and it killed Half of new york! but it pretty much didn't destroyed anything! so yes give us our Fan Squids!! but dont make a city mess!
@jokrol324 Oh I definitely appreciate that Zack Snyder such a faithful adaptation. I could tell that he put a lot of care and effort into it, and that appeasing the fans as well as making a good film was a top priority to him. I just thought his take on the ending was really quite bad. On a side note, I myself am not a "hard core fanboy" of Alan Moore, Watchmen is the only thing by Moore I've read. And I was very grateful that this great book was put into the hands of a director who really cared
I personally think the movie ending was better, since the squied only attacks New York, and theres world peace, while in the movie, mayor cities across the world get destroyed, and remember that Dr. Manhattan was forced to a nervous breakdown in front of cameras, so that helps veidt stay away of the suspect list, but hey, every one have their own opinion.
the squid ending would not work with the movie as richard nixon needed the soviets to join as war would mean the end of both sides a squid attacking new york? dr manhattan could destroy it plus the soviets wouldn't care as there is no common ground
@Pandorum0610 1) Dr. Manhattans future was blocked, thats why he didn't knew it, 2) the squid didn't attacked it was teleported and that caused a psychic wave that killed millions, 3) the squid was something mutant like, so he teleported one to New York and one to Moscow (i dont know if there are any other countries involved) faking an Alien attack which would make the two nations unite to face a common enemy!
It wasn't about just one squid. The idea was to give Earth the impression that there were other potential invaders out there which would require the cooperation of all nations on Earth to combat. A little update for you: Survival is common ground for all humans on Earth. When that is threatened on a global scale, they will unite.
@Elfrunner you don't understand my point the movie ending is far more realistic than a sodding alien that is so out of the blue, human beings will screw each other over to the end out weighing survival hence Russia not giving a shit about america if they are attacked to by an alien aswell but the Americans weapon turning on the WORLD everyone has a target but once it is over humans will turn on each other,you can not kill Dr Manhattan, (human psychology 101 read a book not a comic dude)
I'm talking about psychology, alright. So was Alan Moore when he wrote it. The hoax alien invasion involved the whole world. Veidt teleported the squid to New York so that the Russians or anyone else wouldn't assume that the US was capitulating. As for the movie ending, think about it. The Russians weren't scared of Jon when he was on Earth, so he didn't function much as a deterrent, but they were supposed to fear him afterward? Even he couldn't destroy the whole world.
And besides, you're trying to argue that a blue energy man's power is more realistic than a potential alien invasion. Since the movie ended the exact same way as the graphic novel, it's safe to say that it won't matter in the long run. You say humans will screw each other over regardless? True, and that would also happen despite Dr. Manhattan. Replacing one weapon for another doesn't change the fact that humans will revert, but survival plays a large role in the meantime.
Also, how do you know Dr. Manhattan can't be killed? You think humans wouldn't be devious enough to try to find a way to kill him or find him and capture him? He said so himself that he's not omnipotent. On the other hand, a hostile alien species with potentially billions of members of its race occupying who knows how many planets in the galaxy would be quite scary. At least the world had intimate knowledge of Jon and his power. They wouldn't have that with aliens.
I think the only reason they changed the ending is because the creation of the big alien squid thing is a big back story which would of made the film about 4 hours long
@Plaguechild258 Bit of a late reply, but I think that if Snyder had just avoided using his gimmicky super slow-mo, taken out useless scenes like the prison fight( that wasn't even in the book), he could have put in a 30 second scene of the first appearence of Bubastis during the Manhattan backstory, and inserted some of the scenes with the artist on the island. He can leave out the Black Freighter though. Bubastis's explanation and the artist were enough to contribute to putting the squid in.
@caflagel True, he did replace alot of the substance for action. People who haven't read the book would need a long, detailed explaination about how the scientist, artists etc were brought together and what they were told. Obviously they had to leave the tales of the black freighter, shame though. I would of loved to see a live action version of that
I myself like the movie ending better, the graphic novel was great, but, the squid monster was completely random. I like how they imprevised and made the explosion and all the different parts. The movie was a great success and i loved it, because most of it was from the book, but again not the squid part, which was perfectly fine with me.
6- The squid does seem a bit crazy and unbelievable, but that is the point. Only something as crazy, absurd, and unexpected as a sudden alien invasion could unite the people of the world to fight against a common enemy that obviously can be killed, as opposed to an immortal, invulnerable, god-like being who if he wanted to destroy the world, he could have. Why would he resort to destroying only a portion of the world?
@Unrealshade The whole explosion thing just seemed ridiculous. 1-Dr. Manhattan becoming the common enemy of the USA and the soviets seems ridiculous because it is well established that Dr. Manhattan can not be killed. So basically the common enemy is unbeatable and there is nothing to do but fail at every attempt at killing him.
@Unrealshade 2- Dr. Manhattan had been working for the American government for so many years, so why would he just suddenly attack the USA and Soviets? The answer--- he wouldn't.
@Unrealshade 3- Adrian Veidt had been working to duplicate Dr. Manhattans energy, and the American government knows this, and yet the government does not even suspect Veidt as being the one who set off the explosions around the world.
@Unrealshade 4- Why would the Soviets want to unite with the Americans, when it was the Americans most powerful weapon that caused all of the destruction. If anything, the Soviets should either--be even more angry at the Americans--or they should laughing in their faces at the fact that the Americans could not control their most powerful weapon.
@caflagel But Moskau was destroyed too. and many major citys.. theres nothing to laugh about. Its Mr.Manhatten who has become the enemy to everone on the planet. I really liked the ending and it made perfect sence.. where an alien invasion.. not so much.
@Dimitrij90 Except Dr. Manhattan had a long history of working with the American government, Adrian Veidt had duplicated Manhattan's energy( yet no one questions him), and it is made to look like Dr. Manhattan just suddenly decides to attack the world for no reason, despite his past of working with the American government. The film ending had several holes in it that make no sense. The alien squid made more sense because it was unexpected, out of the blue, and was unbelievable.
@Dimitrij90 And as I said in a previous post "Only something as crazy, absurd, and unexpected as a sudden alien invasion could unite the people of the world to fight against a common enemy that obviously can be killed". You also mention that more cities were destroyed in the film. True, but the alien sent to New York destroying half of the city is enough to convince the Governments that they are dealing with a serious threat, and that joining together is the only way to stop it.....
@Dimitrij90 ......having Dr. Manhattan( the man who played a HUGE role in ending the war in Vietnam) destroy more cities like Moscow was excessive, and just felt forced, and contributed to the films cop-out ending. And to point out again, Adrian Veidt was duplicating the energy of Manhattan, and the people of the city( and I believe the government too) knew about it. Which SHOULD make him a suspect to the people of the world.
@Dimitrij90 Hopefully my series of replies did not come off as sounding mean or hateful towards you Dimitrij90. The subject of the Watchmen ending is just something I always enthusiastically defend, and I feel everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will always point out the flaws and holes in the films ending just to at least show that I have a point.
@Unrealshade 5- The explosion ending felt like a sad cop-out. If there had been less time devoted to slow motion and pointless action sequences ( The prison fight). Then Zack Snyder could have used that time to put in the subtle hints that build up the squid ending.
@caflagel ive only recently gotten a chance to read the graphic novels by Allan Moore, and honestly i loved every part of it except the squid. i had seen the movie, loved it, decided to read the graphic novels to see why it had gotten so diffrent reactions, and the biggest point was the ending, and i honestly can't say that when i saw the squid in NY in the graphic novel, that i didnt go " WTF THATS BS " that felt like a complete letdown of the whole complex of the plot. still loved the books.
@theman2992 I thought the whole Manhattan bomb thing was an abysmal cop out, and nowhere near as well thought out as the squid. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.
@theman2992 the giant octopus whatever makes more sense when they explain it in the comic book, cause Adrian transported the squid to where a giant balloon of a elephant was and since the balloon was already in the place when the squid got there in sorta exploded
@theman2992 dude the Novel is more realistic than the Damn movie, a few things and it works thanks to something called "exemption of miracle", but it isn't abused, here they feature Ozzy (with a horrible outfit to make him look strong, and btw the actor didn't fit the character, maybe just in voice) kicking Rorschach in the head and sending him to fly15 feet then landing without killing him!
You should really read it. The squid can move through a fifth dimension to 'teleport' to another location, But when it teleports, the shock causes it to die and explode with psychic energy, causing everything around it to die. This explosion is instead of the nuclear blast and Manhattan frame up in the film.
Allow me to explain to EVERYONE who hasn't read the graphic novel.
The squid is a genitically enginered creature created by Ozymandias (of course) to make it look as if there was going to be an alien invasion.
Since he had the technology to create the squid, Ozymandias created his own pet using the same technology.
TFSONICFAN100 1 month ago
Naw, I liked the movie ending better.
dswynne 1 month ago
what is that, maybe you look behind bend over mother ??????
MrSKARBOSS 2 months ago
with either ending. no matter what ppl would have still complained so it doesnt really matter
murdrrify 3 months ago
The bomb was more rhealizzztic
mani75961 4 months ago
original is better
hans678910 5 months ago
MUCH BETTER?????you SO IDIOT
aconsuegra8312 5 months ago
@aconsuegra8312 It takes a smart man to call someone an idiot with the grammar you're using.
caflagel 5 months ago
So the original ending was to make the world rally against an alien invasion instead of against Dr Manhattan. What would happen then? No more squid monsters would show up unless Adrian planned to make more. Wouldn't people question where the supposed aliens are?
floooooooooooooooood 5 months ago
@floooooooooooooooood The brain of this creature which was cloned from a dead psychic after Veidt aquired his brain was the key, "The brain was a psychic resonator. it would amplfy a signal pulse and broadcast it, the signal triggered by the onset of death. We coded a lot of information into that signal. Terrible information. Max Shea's descriptions of an alien world, Hira Manish's images and Linette Paley's sounds... other than those killed outright by the shock' many will be driven mad by the
cha5 5 months ago
@floooooooooooooooood cont
sudden flood of grotesque sensation...
...and sensitives worldwide will have bad dreams for years to come. No one will doubt this earth has met a force so dreadful it must be repelled, all former enmities set aside."
And the worldwide reaction that follows and sympathy for what NYC and America has gone through is something on the scale of 9/11 multiplied a million times over.
Just myself I prefer Gibbon's NYC imagery of the original ending which is horrific.
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cha5 5 months ago
@floooooooooooooooood Of course the big question at the end of the story is that whether or not Rorschach's diary will be picked up by Seymour and published by The New Frontiersman revealing Veidt's whole scheme or wheither or not Seymour would pickup something else and throw it in the trashcan, or if publishing it would plunge America back towards midnight on the doomsday clock and WW3, or if nobody would believe Rorschach's diary in the first place.
"I leave it entirely in your hands."
cha5 5 months ago
In the comic only New York is affected so I dont think that everyone would unite just for New York. I like this bomb better, although I would have liked to see at least some burned skeletons lying around : )
007MrYang 6 months ago
@007MrYang if it was a bomb then a country would be to blame meaning fighting would remain, the squid offers a supernatural being that no country could have created, therefore the humans would have to band together incase of another squid, if it was a bomb then theyd just fight harder to stop the country they believed did it
TheLastArchdemon 6 months ago
@TheLastArchdemon
wrong, because USA was attacked too.
KyodaiKen1979 6 months ago
@KyodaiKen1979 whats your point, im saying that even the USA would have a target for the bombing, if it was a squid who could they possibly blame, even the USA would find it impossible to find an enemy that made giant squids that werent extra terestioral
TheLastArchdemon 6 months ago
the moie wending was so much better they even tied in the main plot with doctor manhatten dparture
so much better
jesustonight 6 months ago
The squid was better because it allowed us to see real devastation. We saw all the horror of New York destroyed, firsthand. We saw all the carnage, and all the destroyed locations. It was horrifying, and drove home the point of what drastic lengths Veidt had gone to. In the movie, the city just blows up. It's sterile. No humanity. Seen it a million times. Just wreckage, no corpses. Yawn, so New York got blown up. Not as tragic as something like that should be.
Megaritz 7 months ago
Squid was more realistic. That of course, is not a criticism of Zack Snyder, who has adapted comic books to films better than just about anyone. The squid was more realistic because, as explained in the comic, it created a psychic "shockwave" when it died, killing more people than the teleportation did and leaving many in the world with echoes of its disturbingly unhuman thoughts. This, combined with humanity's natural zenophobia, would have united humanity in fear of more of these aliens.
erentheca 7 months ago 2
@erentheca Yes it was more realistic, but probably not the best for the movie because it required all that backstory of the psychics and stuff. Much better for the book where they had time to develop all the side stories and have them all converge at the end
starsiegeplayer 7 months ago
The ending in the movie was much more realistic. Squid could ruin everything.
KyodaiKen1979 8 months ago 5
@KyodaiKen1979 It didn't ruin the book at all, I don't think it would have ruined the film either, but that's your opinion. I don't see how you can accept a genetically engineered PURPLE lynx, which is in the movie, but you can't accept a genetically engineered squidlike monster.
caflagel 8 months ago 4
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cjavengers13 3 months ago
@cjavengers13 I don't understand your comment. You're telling me that the lynx was in the book, which I already know, and then you say The Squid was not in the book. Um... did we read the same book? Because The Squid WAS IN the book. The Squid was not in the film, but it was in the book. I'm sorry you hated this video, but that's alright, I didn't expect everyone to like it.
caflagel 3 months ago
@caflagel oh, i did not know it was in the book. im not done with it yet. my bad. i removed my stupid comment. sorry.
cjavengers13 3 months ago
@caflagel Books and movies are entirely different. Seeing a giant squid on the screen would most likely make audiences giggle, and it would lose it's effect it had in the book. So they changed it up.
XDarkF3arX 1 month ago
@KyodaiKen1979 - rubbish.
why dont we remake the bible where in the end instead of jesus being crusafied he should pull a holly wood A lister and the could be some cheap speacial effects and maybe a painfully lame double entondeur
willpreston 6 months ago
@jokrol324
The movie wasn't made to be understood. Due to the complex nature of the graphic novel, the movie was left with too many plot holes. As in my previous comment, the action and explosions is also studio interference.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
@jokrol324
No, the part where Nite Owl punched Ozymandias was to push on the audience the idea that what Veidt did was wrong rather than just leaving it up to us to decide as in the novel. Such is the nature of studio interference in film; we have to be told how to react.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
My god the book and the movie both serve as seperate works of art and each had an ending that worked for it's medium, having a giant squid show up at the end of the film would have been absurd!!! no matter how much you set it up! the movie was awesome and the book is awesome.
Eat shit haters.
Willtyson 10 months ago
Well yes, and No! if you read the novel none of the buildings are destroyed or blow'd up, just windows... why? because actually when the squid was teleported it created a massive energy that, more than like a bomb, it was a psychic wave that could kill! and it killed Half of new york! but it pretty much didn't destroyed anything! so yes give us our Fan Squids!! but dont make a city mess!
fsfsfsfsfsfsg 11 months ago
@jokrol324 On another side note, I also felt that the gimmicky slow motion could have been left out as I've stated in previous posts.
caflagel 11 months ago
@jokrol324 Oh I definitely appreciate that Zack Snyder such a faithful adaptation. I could tell that he put a lot of care and effort into it, and that appeasing the fans as well as making a good film was a top priority to him. I just thought his take on the ending was really quite bad. On a side note, I myself am not a "hard core fanboy" of Alan Moore, Watchmen is the only thing by Moore I've read. And I was very grateful that this great book was put into the hands of a director who really cared
caflagel 11 months ago 8
I'm really glad this didn't go with the giant squid shit.
mmmikeyxx 1 year ago
I personally think the movie ending was better, since the squied only attacks New York, and theres world peace, while in the movie, mayor cities across the world get destroyed, and remember that Dr. Manhattan was forced to a nervous breakdown in front of cameras, so that helps veidt stay away of the suspect list, but hey, every one have their own opinion.
SilentHillOwn 1 year ago
the squid ending would not work with the movie as richard nixon needed the soviets to join as war would mean the end of both sides a squid attacking new york? dr manhattan could destroy it plus the soviets wouldn't care as there is no common ground
Pandorum0610 1 year ago 3
@Pandorum0610 1) Dr. Manhattans future was blocked, thats why he didn't knew it, 2) the squid didn't attacked it was teleported and that caused a psychic wave that killed millions, 3) the squid was something mutant like, so he teleported one to New York and one to Moscow (i dont know if there are any other countries involved) faking an Alien attack which would make the two nations unite to face a common enemy!
fsfsfsfsfsfsg 11 months ago
@fsfsfsfsfsfsg fair enough
Pandorum0610 9 months ago
@Pandorum0610
It wasn't about just one squid. The idea was to give Earth the impression that there were other potential invaders out there which would require the cooperation of all nations on Earth to combat. A little update for you: Survival is common ground for all humans on Earth. When that is threatened on a global scale, they will unite.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
@Elfrunner you don't understand my point the movie ending is far more realistic than a sodding alien that is so out of the blue, human beings will screw each other over to the end out weighing survival hence Russia not giving a shit about america if they are attacked to by an alien aswell but the Americans weapon turning on the WORLD everyone has a target but once it is over humans will turn on each other,you can not kill Dr Manhattan, (human psychology 101 read a book not a comic dude)
Pandorum0610 9 months ago
@Pandorum0610
I'm talking about psychology, alright. So was Alan Moore when he wrote it. The hoax alien invasion involved the whole world. Veidt teleported the squid to New York so that the Russians or anyone else wouldn't assume that the US was capitulating. As for the movie ending, think about it. The Russians weren't scared of Jon when he was on Earth, so he didn't function much as a deterrent, but they were supposed to fear him afterward? Even he couldn't destroy the whole world.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
And besides, you're trying to argue that a blue energy man's power is more realistic than a potential alien invasion. Since the movie ended the exact same way as the graphic novel, it's safe to say that it won't matter in the long run. You say humans will screw each other over regardless? True, and that would also happen despite Dr. Manhattan. Replacing one weapon for another doesn't change the fact that humans will revert, but survival plays a large role in the meantime.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
@Pandorum0610
Also, how do you know Dr. Manhattan can't be killed? You think humans wouldn't be devious enough to try to find a way to kill him or find him and capture him? He said so himself that he's not omnipotent. On the other hand, a hostile alien species with potentially billions of members of its race occupying who knows how many planets in the galaxy would be quite scary. At least the world had intimate knowledge of Jon and his power. They wouldn't have that with aliens.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
@Elfrunner I'm not narking on the comic man
Pandorum0610 9 months ago
I think the only reason they changed the ending is because the creation of the big alien squid thing is a big back story which would of made the film about 4 hours long
Plaguechild258 1 year ago 3
@Plaguechild258 Bit of a late reply, but I think that if Snyder had just avoided using his gimmicky super slow-mo, taken out useless scenes like the prison fight( that wasn't even in the book), he could have put in a 30 second scene of the first appearence of Bubastis during the Manhattan backstory, and inserted some of the scenes with the artist on the island. He can leave out the Black Freighter though. Bubastis's explanation and the artist were enough to contribute to putting the squid in.
caflagel 1 year ago
@caflagel True, he did replace alot of the substance for action. People who haven't read the book would need a long, detailed explaination about how the scientist, artists etc were brought together and what they were told. Obviously they had to leave the tales of the black freighter, shame though. I would of loved to see a live action version of that
Plaguechild258 1 year ago
@caflagel
The Ultimate Cut had the Tales of the Black Freighter sequence, which made the movie much better.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
I myself like the movie ending better, the graphic novel was great, but, the squid monster was completely random. I like how they imprevised and made the explosion and all the different parts. The movie was a great success and i loved it, because most of it was from the book, but again not the squid part, which was perfectly fine with me.
XxTehAwesomexX 1 year ago
6- The squid does seem a bit crazy and unbelievable, but that is the point. Only something as crazy, absurd, and unexpected as a sudden alien invasion could unite the people of the world to fight against a common enemy that obviously can be killed, as opposed to an immortal, invulnerable, god-like being who if he wanted to destroy the world, he could have. Why would he resort to destroying only a portion of the world?
caflagel 1 year ago
why didn't you like the explosion ending?
Unrealshade 1 year ago
@Unrealshade The whole explosion thing just seemed ridiculous. 1-Dr. Manhattan becoming the common enemy of the USA and the soviets seems ridiculous because it is well established that Dr. Manhattan can not be killed. So basically the common enemy is unbeatable and there is nothing to do but fail at every attempt at killing him.
caflagel 1 year ago
@Unrealshade 2- Dr. Manhattan had been working for the American government for so many years, so why would he just suddenly attack the USA and Soviets? The answer--- he wouldn't.
caflagel 1 year ago
@Unrealshade 3- Adrian Veidt had been working to duplicate Dr. Manhattans energy, and the American government knows this, and yet the government does not even suspect Veidt as being the one who set off the explosions around the world.
caflagel 1 year ago
@Unrealshade 4- Why would the Soviets want to unite with the Americans, when it was the Americans most powerful weapon that caused all of the destruction. If anything, the Soviets should either--be even more angry at the Americans--or they should laughing in their faces at the fact that the Americans could not control their most powerful weapon.
caflagel 1 year ago
@caflagel But Moskau was destroyed too. and many major citys.. theres nothing to laugh about. Its Mr.Manhatten who has become the enemy to everone on the planet. I really liked the ending and it made perfect sence.. where an alien invasion.. not so much.
Dimitrij90 1 year ago
@Dimitrij90 Except Dr. Manhattan had a long history of working with the American government, Adrian Veidt had duplicated Manhattan's energy( yet no one questions him), and it is made to look like Dr. Manhattan just suddenly decides to attack the world for no reason, despite his past of working with the American government. The film ending had several holes in it that make no sense. The alien squid made more sense because it was unexpected, out of the blue, and was unbelievable.
caflagel 1 year ago
@Dimitrij90 And as I said in a previous post "Only something as crazy, absurd, and unexpected as a sudden alien invasion could unite the people of the world to fight against a common enemy that obviously can be killed". You also mention that more cities were destroyed in the film. True, but the alien sent to New York destroying half of the city is enough to convince the Governments that they are dealing with a serious threat, and that joining together is the only way to stop it.....
caflagel 1 year ago
@Dimitrij90 ......having Dr. Manhattan( the man who played a HUGE role in ending the war in Vietnam) destroy more cities like Moscow was excessive, and just felt forced, and contributed to the films cop-out ending. And to point out again, Adrian Veidt was duplicating the energy of Manhattan, and the people of the city( and I believe the government too) knew about it. Which SHOULD make him a suspect to the people of the world.
caflagel 1 year ago
@Dimitrij90 Hopefully my series of replies did not come off as sounding mean or hateful towards you Dimitrij90. The subject of the Watchmen ending is just something I always enthusiastically defend, and I feel everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will always point out the flaws and holes in the films ending just to at least show that I have a point.
caflagel 1 year ago
@Unrealshade 5- The explosion ending felt like a sad cop-out. If there had been less time devoted to slow motion and pointless action sequences ( The prison fight). Then Zack Snyder could have used that time to put in the subtle hints that build up the squid ending.
caflagel 1 year ago
@caflagel ive only recently gotten a chance to read the graphic novels by Allan Moore, and honestly i loved every part of it except the squid. i had seen the movie, loved it, decided to read the graphic novels to see why it had gotten so diffrent reactions, and the biggest point was the ending, and i honestly can't say that when i saw the squid in NY in the graphic novel, that i didnt go " WTF THATS BS " that felt like a complete letdown of the whole complex of the plot. still loved the books.
Heelydon 1 year ago
the bomb was better and more realistic.
theman2992 1 year ago 22
@theman2992 I thought the whole Manhattan bomb thing was an abysmal cop out, and nowhere near as well thought out as the squid. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.
caflagel 1 year ago
@theman2992 the giant octopus whatever makes more sense when they explain it in the comic book, cause Adrian transported the squid to where a giant balloon of a elephant was and since the balloon was already in the place when the squid got there in sorta exploded
alejandromovie 1 year ago
@theman2992 dude the Novel is more realistic than the Damn movie, a few things and it works thanks to something called "exemption of miracle", but it isn't abused, here they feature Ozzy (with a horrible outfit to make him look strong, and btw the actor didn't fit the character, maybe just in voice) kicking Rorschach in the head and sending him to fly15 feet then landing without killing him!
fsfsfsfsfsfsg 11 months ago
@theman2992
It's an alternate universe. Who cares about how "realistic" it looks compared to our world. The squid could have been a scary scene in the movie.
Elfrunner 9 months ago
@theman2992 Dude, there's a blue guy than have the power of a god and a cat/tiger/I don't know what more.
Of course than it could be an alien squid.
chubistian1 6 months ago
True.
Laranzava 1 year ago
the musics pissing me off its so tranquil.
zotrablue 1 year ago
Yes what joemclean90 said. The graphic novel ending was far superior to the films ending IMO.
caflagel 2 years ago
wtf???
srry but i didnt get it
johnnyvincent2 2 years ago
The original graphic novel ends with a fifth dimensional squid instead of the bomb frame up thing.
joemclean90 2 years ago
@joemclean90 did the squid get defeated?
mh4777abc 1 year ago
You should really read it. The squid can move through a fifth dimension to 'teleport' to another location, But when it teleports, the shock causes it to die and explode with psychic energy, causing everything around it to die. This explosion is instead of the nuclear blast and Manhattan frame up in the film.
joemclean90 1 year ago
@johnnyvincent2 then read the comic
zotrablue 1 year ago
Boy, the comments are just rolling in (end sarcasm).
caflagel 2 years ago
@caflagel thats true
dickrichard666 2 years ago