Im not being a troll... I think this is a good video... but "If you look at the paradiddle diddle, it is exactly the same, apart from the sticking"... Im pretty sure, thats what seperates almost all grooves in the same time signature, is the sticking :L Just Saying xD
Mathimatically it is correct, it does not represent 6 - 8th notes per bar. instead it compresses a 2 bar phrase into 1.
counting aloud "1 and 2 and 2 and 4 and 5 and 6 and" is actually counting in 6/4. this is why it is so confusing. you should be counting "1,2,3,4,5,6" You have written in 12/16, count in 6/4, and put the time signiture as 6/8
To turn it into 6/8 get rid of one of the beams changins the groups into 8th and put a bar line after the first 6 notes making it a 2 bar phrase.
if you want 6/8 write the notes as quavers (1 tail or 1 bar across to gruop the note stems so it isnt 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and its 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a (barline would be here if you wanted the same space as if the notes were 8th notes) 4 e and a 5 e and a 6 e and a
@finneykris so by your logic anything that can keep on being simplified should? if your doing single strokes in 4/4 as semiquavers it shouldn't be 4/4 it should be 1/4 or 4/16 or something? there is nothing wrong with what he has done
this guy is so slow omg... this is almost proof that set players suck at drumming. sure they can hit a drum and make some cool beats but the real drummers who know their shit are in wgi.
@epicworld rofl! you make it sound like drum set is hard! you do know that drum set is just repetitive beats right? you get one thing then you get like half the song. create the fills and you're good. snare, tenors, and bass drums are where the real skill is. i'd like to see your hands move that fast and play so clean with 8 or 9 other snare drums while moving and doing visuals. dont respond please you because you are not worth anymore of my time at all and you'll just be talking to yourself.
@lightdarkness8 LMAO u fuckin loser, i love how you act so smug but first of all I started in a marching band :P and i mean i understand its hard for you for to only do 1 or 2 things at once. oh no! rudiments! they must be so hard when ur doing 16th notes at 120 bpm!!!! a swiss flam? jesus noooo! a buzz roll?! OMG!!!
get over yourself. only hard thing is matching up with everyone if you got a couple shitty players.
obviously you dont know drumming because this guy doesnt even know how to count his sixteenth notes right from the beginning. that is not a 6/8 bar. and to end this whole thing, he doesnt play through the drum AT ALL. all of these guys videos give wrong iformation and he should get off expert village
@dawizard737 lmao hes dumb and shouldnt be counting 8th notes its conducted in 2 on down beat starts one 1 2 3 4 is the 2nd beat 456 so technically he's stupid and doesnt know shit about music his sticking is terrible hes sticking with his arms and not wrists
@falloutboy7778 Technically it depends on how fast the conductor wants it; he could conduct all the beats, or 1 and 4, or just 1. Also, technically, at least he doesn't use run-on sentences.
@dawizard737 technically its youtube calm down im not going to use proper grammar and punctuation. Secondly the majority of the time the conductor will take it in 2 and not in 4 because taking it in 4 is practically impossible i dont see how to take 6/8 in 4 if you could explain to me how to take it in 4 please explain. And also of course you can take 6/8 in 1 you can take pretty much any time signature, besides 2/4,3/4 and 4/4 of course, in 1.
Oh man, I have a pair of diddles... Who the hell came up with the word paradiddle? I wanna kick his ass. I cant count (just a rock drummer) but can play the hell out of the drums. Does that count? Just kidding folks - Good job man, it aint easy being a drummer. Why you ask? Because we have to put up with asshole guitarists that seem to know just how to play the drums , but wait- they can't !!
@Jose04811 - Bass players are so important for drummers, the fact is that w/out a real good foundation (Bass & Drums) the other instruments can't fully explore the spectrum of melodies necessary for creating "the sound" of at least an original band. Like u guys didnt already know this, I'm just saying...the band I'm in now is so awesome, these guys know what they are doing and let me do my thing. It's really hard to find...
when he wrote it out he put it as sixteenth notes but he said it as eight notes this guy is retarded and needs to focus on how to write his mucic out better.
The paradiddle-diddle is probably the rudiment I've used the most in recent history. Just put the right hand on the hihat or ride cymbal and the left hand on the snare, you can get a nice sounding thing going.
Great Job explaining the stickings and execution! Keep up the great work! I just wish more of the youngsters would spend more time watching these kind of you tube videos instead of all of the extreme drumming stuff...
i guess that every beginner drummer (yes, including me) preferes to try and play along with a song before he (or in my case: i) realize he needs more skill to become faster and get better timing. but in the long run, we all end up looking for these kinds of video's to help us further.
Its just to bad this guy never demonstrates what you can do with it. And that's the first thing he should do. He never really plays anything. I get the feeling he cant really play. Don't you?
i may be wrong, but i guess it's because you gain stick controll. being smooth and equal. so i guess it will help getting smoother drumrolls, fills, and so on. i guess if we want to see the paradiddle diddle in a song, we might try adding that to the search function :-) not a bad idea, as i am going to try it right away :-D
tune your snare drum!
theknifeguy651 2 months ago
Im not being a troll... I think this is a good video... but "If you look at the paradiddle diddle, it is exactly the same, apart from the sticking"... Im pretty sure, thats what seperates almost all grooves in the same time signature, is the sticking :L Just Saying xD
oODallyOo 4 months ago
Mathimatically it is correct, it does not represent 6 - 8th notes per bar. instead it compresses a 2 bar phrase into 1.
counting aloud "1 and 2 and 2 and 4 and 5 and 6 and" is actually counting in 6/4. this is why it is so confusing. you should be counting "1,2,3,4,5,6" You have written in 12/16, count in 6/4, and put the time signiture as 6/8
To turn it into 6/8 get rid of one of the beams changins the groups into 8th and put a bar line after the first 6 notes making it a 2 bar phrase.
aussieage 6 months ago
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finneykris 6 months ago
thumbs up if you liked the advertisement video wit da dancers nd drummers......
jkbrown34568 9 months ago
if you want 6/8 write the notes as quavers (1 tail or 1 bar across to gruop the note stems so it isnt 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and its 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a (barline would be here if you wanted the same space as if the notes were 8th notes) 4 e and a 5 e and a 6 e and a
finneykris 10 months ago
those are 16th notes so its 6/16 not as you written '6/8'
finneykris 10 months ago
@finneykris your an idiot xD
12 semiquavers is equivalent to 6 quavers... thus 6/8
qoxohifo 6 months ago
@qoxohifo its not 6/8 if theirs no syncopation , its 6/16 you'd need a synchpated bar or two after that to make it 6/8 or 6/16
thats why 4/4 can may the same as 2/2 if there is no syncopation
finneykris 6 months ago
@qoxohifo twelve semiquavers is the same as three crotchets so its 3/16
finneykris 6 months ago
@finneykris so by your logic anything that can keep on being simplified should? if your doing single strokes in 4/4 as semiquavers it shouldn't be 4/4 it should be 1/4 or 4/16 or something? there is nothing wrong with what he has done
qoxohifo 6 months ago
FYI the world is NOT RIGHT HANDED..there are a few lefties out there trying to lern this
Killemgrillem00 10 months ago
this guy is so slow omg... this is almost proof that set players suck at drumming. sure they can hit a drum and make some cool beats but the real drummers who know their shit are in wgi.
lightdarkness8 11 months ago
@lightdarkness8 1 drummer playing 6 drums plus cymbols
or 40 drummers playin 40 drums.
its pretty easy to master one fuckin drum when thats all u work on for 5 years u retard
epicworld 11 months ago
@epicworld rofl! you make it sound like drum set is hard! you do know that drum set is just repetitive beats right? you get one thing then you get like half the song. create the fills and you're good. snare, tenors, and bass drums are where the real skill is. i'd like to see your hands move that fast and play so clean with 8 or 9 other snare drums while moving and doing visuals. dont respond please you because you are not worth anymore of my time at all and you'll just be talking to yourself.
lightdarkness8 11 months ago
@lightdarkness8 LMAO u fuckin loser, i love how you act so smug but first of all I started in a marching band :P and i mean i understand its hard for you for to only do 1 or 2 things at once. oh no! rudiments! they must be so hard when ur doing 16th notes at 120 bpm!!!! a swiss flam? jesus noooo! a buzz roll?! OMG!!!
get over yourself. only hard thing is matching up with everyone if you got a couple shitty players.
epicworld 11 months ago
Apologies I meant, of course, a paradiddle diddle!
ormysceptic 1 year ago
Ignore this. A double paradiddle is 3/4 in sixteenth notes:
1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a.
Go to onlinedrummer, he's much better!! (No, I'm not him and he hasn't paid me!)
ormysceptic 1 year ago
Hi, where's the accent on the first note? PARadiddle-diddle PARadiddle-diddle.
thiszombiekid 1 year ago
@thiszombiekid
not all paradiddles or paradiddle-diddles have accents on the first note
FelixTheCatSteeze 1 year ago
The "1 and 2 and.." above a 16th line is a bit strange.
Take the 16th bar lines off and change the meter to 6 over 4.
Way too much (and sometimes incorrect) info especially for those who are at beginning levels.
titanium9000 1 year ago
138 714 VIDEOS?!?! I would NEVER subscribe!!
godpotat 1 year ago
definitely one of the only expertvillage vids i've seen that actually teaches drumming the right way
DaJmsta 1 year ago
@DaJmsta
obviously you dont know drumming because this guy doesnt even know how to count his sixteenth notes right from the beginning. that is not a 6/8 bar. and to end this whole thing, he doesnt play through the drum AT ALL. all of these guys videos give wrong iformation and he should get off expert village
FelixTheCatSteeze 1 year ago
isnotbutter13 so true my ex is a drummer and he showed me the paradiddle diddle when I first bought my djembe.
MsSweet40 1 year ago
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MsSweet40 1 year ago
is it just me or does everyone always think the expert village people suck? so what if he is not the best drummer in the world?
kingderderder 1 year ago
@kingderderder
EXPERTvillage. Notice the word EXPERT!
ex-pert-noun- Someone who has a special skill or knowledge in some certain thing.
alansam6 1 year ago
This pattern is invaluable when playing jazz, and extremely maluable in other feels. Every drummer should know all of the diddles!
itsnotbutter13 1 year ago
I never said he'd do it in four. That would be hard.
1, in between & and 2, 4, in between & and 5?
dawizard737 1 year ago
Written on a piece of music?????? How is that done?
trekako 1 year ago
wow the first good drummer from expertvillage lol
muffinsNsausage 1 year ago
@muffinsNsausage its pretty hard to tell hes good considering hes playing the easiest rudiment out there
jamieman28 1 year ago
@jamieman28 yeah but every drummer from EV i've seen has hardly known how to hold sticks haha
muffinsNsausage 1 year ago
Doesnt two bars across the stop of the staffs make em 16th notes, yet you have it written above as 8th notes 1&2&3&4&5&6&
RA710 1 year ago
@RA710 isn't it in 6/8, and he's counting the 8th notes?
dawizard737 1 year ago
@dawizard737 lmao hes dumb and shouldnt be counting 8th notes its conducted in 2 on down beat starts one 1 2 3 4 is the 2nd beat 456 so technically he's stupid and doesnt know shit about music his sticking is terrible hes sticking with his arms and not wrists
falloutboy7778 1 year ago
@falloutboy7778 Technically it depends on how fast the conductor wants it; he could conduct all the beats, or 1 and 4, or just 1. Also, technically, at least he doesn't use run-on sentences.
dawizard737 1 year ago
@dawizard737 technically its youtube calm down im not going to use proper grammar and punctuation. Secondly the majority of the time the conductor will take it in 2 and not in 4 because taking it in 4 is practically impossible i dont see how to take 6/8 in 4 if you could explain to me how to take it in 4 please explain. And also of course you can take 6/8 in 1 you can take pretty much any time signature, besides 2/4,3/4 and 4/4 of course, in 1.
falloutboy7778 1 year ago
You ate too much make it simple okay?
chandygarcia 1 year ago
sorry, you are too fat man, mabe you eat too much hamburgers???
awans222 1 year ago
@awans222
Hey, shit for brains - what does that have to do with anything?
gardenzombie 1 year ago
RLRRLRLL-RLLRLRRL-LLLRLRRR
juhasz100 1 year ago
Oh man, I have a pair of diddles... Who the hell came up with the word paradiddle? I wanna kick his ass. I cant count (just a rock drummer) but can play the hell out of the drums. Does that count? Just kidding folks - Good job man, it aint easy being a drummer. Why you ask? Because we have to put up with asshole guitarists that seem to know just how to play the drums , but wait- they can't !!
megadrummer2 2 years ago
@megadrummer2 your so tellin the truth
chry200102 1 year ago
@megadrummer2 Agreed dude, Im so glad the band im in right now the guitarist doesnt have a huge ass ego.
PAINTBALL55 1 year ago
@megadrummer2 i guess its a good thing im a bassist them?
Jose04811 1 year ago
@Jose04811 - Bass players are so important for drummers, the fact is that w/out a real good foundation (Bass & Drums) the other instruments can't fully explore the spectrum of melodies necessary for creating "the sound" of at least an original band. Like u guys didnt already know this, I'm just saying...the band I'm in now is so awesome, these guys know what they are doing and let me do my thing. It's really hard to find...
megadrummer2 1 year ago
inverted is my favorite - RLLRLRRL
13thBarcodeDrummer 2 years ago
did you see what Jeff Salem did with that pattern in his Groove adiddles video? it's SICK! i'm with you...very hip
bluesingroove 1 year ago
But don't you think that the sticking could help a beginner?
TheColbles2009 2 years ago 2
when he wrote it out he put it as sixteenth notes but he said it as eight notes this guy is retarded and needs to focus on how to write his mucic out better.
drummachine1901 2 years ago
he didn't write anything in sixteenth. he did however write it in 6/8
calleroev 2 years ago
no. he wrote it out for 6/8ths timing which WOULD be eights. 2/3rds timing would be 16ths
iSnipeDuplexity 2 years ago
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TheKovach 2 years ago
LRRLRLRR
freak1215 2 years ago
RLRRLRLL
lazyindeed 2 years ago 2
The paradiddle-diddle is probably the rudiment I've used the most in recent history. Just put the right hand on the hihat or ride cymbal and the left hand on the snare, you can get a nice sounding thing going.
cril1001001 2 years ago
thanks for the advice, i will go try this out as soon as i'm home :-)
musicmaniac1965 2 years ago
actually u wrote 16th notes but u made the counting as 8th notes
steveaux03 3 years ago
No, the eight note gets the beat because it's in 6\8 time so the sixteenth notes are counted as eight notes.
hunt12887 2 years ago
o didnt see that thnxs lol my badbut if it was 4/4 time it would've been wroung
steveaux03 2 years ago
Look at Mr. Genius here.
whsquads 2 years ago
If it was written in 4/4 time it would have to be written in triplet form to fit
reevseydrum 2 years ago
yes, and thats the way most of use probably will apply it, right? 4/4 triplet form in the pocket. I do.
loosenutlambert 2 years ago
and by use i mean us.
loosenutlambert 2 years ago
Its the way i use it and teach my students to use it.
reevseydrum 2 years ago
ur lik my fav teacher 4real
453042 3 years ago
Good explain - but it does have EXTREME uses !!!! DRUMS is ENERGY
GGFan 3 years ago 2
Great Job explaining the stickings and execution! Keep up the great work! I just wish more of the youngsters would spend more time watching these kind of you tube videos instead of all of the extreme drumming stuff...
TheFlat2008 3 years ago
i guess that every beginner drummer (yes, including me) preferes to try and play along with a song before he (or in my case: i) realize he needs more skill to become faster and get better timing. but in the long run, we all end up looking for these kinds of video's to help us further.
musicmaniac1965 2 years ago
Its just to bad this guy never demonstrates what you can do with it. And that's the first thing he should do. He never really plays anything. I get the feeling he cant really play. Don't you?
loosenutlambert 2 years ago
i may be wrong, but i guess it's because you gain stick controll. being smooth and equal. so i guess it will help getting smoother drumrolls, fills, and so on. i guess if we want to see the paradiddle diddle in a song, we might try adding that to the search function :-) not a bad idea, as i am going to try it right away :-D
musicmaniac1965 2 years ago