That's more aikikai than Iwama style. I've practiced Iwama style for many years both in Japan (at Iwama) and Europe. I believe that Newens sensei is ranked by Hombu dojo in Tokyo. Iwama style is well structured under two banners : Hitohira Saito sensei (Iwama Shin Shin Shurenkai) in Iwama and Daniel Toutain sensei (Iwama Ryu International Academy)
Is Iwama style aikido the same as Iwama ryu aikido? I´ve read somewhere that Iwama style is represented by Hiroshi Isoyama and Iwama ryu is the unchanged aikido tought by Saito sensei. What is true?
@unikad Iwama style is what generally refers to the harder aikido Saito sensei taught in Iwama. Iwama ryu is the name of hitohiro saito's style after he broke away from the aikikai.
@unikad Iwama Ryu was dan ranks handed out by Morihiro Saito. These teachers were in Scandinavia and main land Europe, but not in Japan. The highest ranking Iwama Ryu teachers today are Corallini and Evenås, both 7th dan shihans.
After M. Saito passed away, Iwama Ryu ceased to exist and was under Aikikai again. I've trained at Aikikai dojos for short periods even if Iwama style is what my sensei was taught. There are some differences, but it's all still valid, good aikido.
Actually, there is no official "Iwama AIkido". The term loosely refers to the rather hard and weapons oriented style practised while boss was in Iwama, and to those who follow that.
I study "Iwama style" at "Aikido Dojo London" with Sensei Justin Christou 5th dan
a former full time Uchi Deshi (live in student) of 8 years at the Iwama Dojo in Japan under Morihiro Saito sensei, this looks very different from what we do! I think Aikimans is correct, this looks more like Aikikia (my two pennies worth)
@EnochMetatron Not sure you understand aikido, dude. Watch a few classes at a good aikido school and you'll understand why I say that. Not dissing you or anything. I just want people to understand the art I've practiced for nearly twenty years. It's still effective, without bodily mutilation!
@osirisanubis Haha, I understand. It was mostly a joke, but you must admit, in a real-world situation, an opponent who has not been trained as an uke is very likely to be hurt when he's on the receiving end of an Aikido technique.
@EnochMetatron You got that right! I remember practicing koshinage three years ago. I was not focused that day and my ukemi was horrible and consequently it hurt like hell. I landed on my side and heard (and felt) a crunch. Man, if i was on the sidewalk I'd be toast! Nice post.
I doubt very much this is Iwama style Aikido unless this guy just wasnt watching sensei while he was there. This is more like Hombu style ie light and flowery.
hoa newens sensei,student of morihiro saito,he had some other teachers as well so perhaps a little bit more open minded than most iwama teachers.teaches in davis,usa.
what is the difference between Iwama style Aikido and the other kind that I am training that I don´t know the name of but seems more softer then this style?
from what i know iwama ryu was the founders dojo and saito sensi took over and continued teaching and it was located in the countree not in the city. the farmers that trained there regulary were by nature much stronger than that of the city people who trained with the founders son and therefor its a more phisical art than that of others..
Iwama is a place in the Japan countryside. O'Sensei continued teaching there after the war and Saito Sensei was his longest standing student. Many of O'Sensei's pre-war students didn't continue with him and ventured out on their own (Yoshinkan Aikido). The Iwama eyu style still incorporates weapons training, whereas many other styles don't. The bokken and jo are the origin of all Aikido technique.
@Derukugi2 The way you worded your comment is hilarious as well as true. Although I tend to like less aggressive training, I understand aikido's roots well. I don't care for aikido dojos where people just dance around sniffing scented candles and listen to Enya playing from the dojo mini boom box. Honest to God, I went to a dojo for a seminar and found out that there are no belt tests there. People automatically receice belt promotions based on training day numbers!
@osirisanubis The school I attend is much more rigid as far as belt promotions go. And the level of seriousness about the training is at a maximum at all times. Oh yeah, and no scented candles aloud!
Actually, aikido is useful but its limitations. the best use of aikido is in opening a martial art school because aikido classes can be a tad expensive in some places.
That's more aikikai than Iwama style. I've practiced Iwama style for many years both in Japan (at Iwama) and Europe. I believe that Newens sensei is ranked by Hombu dojo in Tokyo. Iwama style is well structured under two banners : Hitohira Saito sensei (Iwama Shin Shin Shurenkai) in Iwama and Daniel Toutain sensei (Iwama Ryu International Academy)
mikemcana 4 months ago
Aiki-Dance as usual
FightingWarrior 1 year ago
Is Iwama style aikido the same as Iwama ryu aikido? I´ve read somewhere that Iwama style is represented by Hiroshi Isoyama and Iwama ryu is the unchanged aikido tought by Saito sensei. What is true?
unikad 1 year ago
@unikad Iwama style is what generally refers to the harder aikido Saito sensei taught in Iwama. Iwama ryu is the name of hitohiro saito's style after he broke away from the aikikai.
aleisme6668 1 year ago
@unikad Iwama Ryu was dan ranks handed out by Morihiro Saito. These teachers were in Scandinavia and main land Europe, but not in Japan. The highest ranking Iwama Ryu teachers today are Corallini and Evenås, both 7th dan shihans.
After M. Saito passed away, Iwama Ryu ceased to exist and was under Aikikai again. I've trained at Aikikai dojos for short periods even if Iwama style is what my sensei was taught. There are some differences, but it's all still valid, good aikido.
pacosaidso 1 year ago
@unikad
Actually, there is no official "Iwama AIkido". The term loosely refers to the rather hard and weapons oriented style practised while boss was in Iwama, and to those who follow that.
Derukugi2 7 months ago
I study "Iwama style" at "Aikido Dojo London" with Sensei Justin Christou 5th dan
a former full time Uchi Deshi (live in student) of 8 years at the Iwama Dojo in Japan under Morihiro Saito sensei, this looks very different from what we do! I think Aikimans is correct, this looks more like Aikikia (my two pennies worth)
szane67 1 year ago
@szane67 Still Iwama style just a few of the more unusual kokyu oyawaza techniques
DeStijlBenighted 1 year ago
Your brain must heve been broken in 5 places before that sentence popped out from your mind.
Attilahollo9 2 years ago
Aikido: The art of breaking your attacker's arm in 5 places before he hits the ground.
EnochMetatron 3 years ago 6
That's the best description of Aikido I've ever heard! :P
Jimbo78B 2 years ago
@EnochMetatron Not sure you understand aikido, dude. Watch a few classes at a good aikido school and you'll understand why I say that. Not dissing you or anything. I just want people to understand the art I've practiced for nearly twenty years. It's still effective, without bodily mutilation!
osirisanubis 1 year ago
@osirisanubis Haha, I understand. It was mostly a joke, but you must admit, in a real-world situation, an opponent who has not been trained as an uke is very likely to be hurt when he's on the receiving end of an Aikido technique.
EnochMetatron 1 year ago
@EnochMetatron You got that right! I remember practicing koshinage three years ago. I was not focused that day and my ukemi was horrible and consequently it hurt like hell. I landed on my side and heard (and felt) a crunch. Man, if i was on the sidewalk I'd be toast! Nice post.
osirisanubis 1 year ago
I doubt very much this is Iwama style Aikido unless this guy just wasnt watching sensei while he was there. This is more like Hombu style ie light and flowery.
Aikimans 3 years ago 3
The video IS in slo-mo, y'know.
8dahar1 3 years ago
hoa newens sensei,student of morihiro saito,he had some other teachers as well so perhaps a little bit more open minded than most iwama teachers.teaches in davis,usa.
kokyutengu 2 years ago
He is also a tai chi teacher, which gives him amazing flow.
delphicdaimonion 2 years ago
Everyone in Aikido eventually develops their own style.
aiki3d 2 years ago
Agreed.
ssbmpalyer2010 2 years ago
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Aikido translated from japanese means voilent dancing.
sausag 4 years ago
where did u get that transation
Ai-harmony
Ki-spirit
Do-way/path
boscojosh 4 years ago
Just kidding around.
sausag 4 years ago
Hahaha, good one.
Derukugi2 3 years ago
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only coreography!NOT BUDO!NOT MARTIAL ARTS!
SERSOLAK 4 years ago
what is the difference between Iwama style Aikido and the other kind that I am training that I don´t know the name of but seems more softer then this style?
XsjadoSweden 4 years ago
from what i know iwama ryu was the founders dojo and saito sensi took over and continued teaching and it was located in the countree not in the city. the farmers that trained there regulary were by nature much stronger than that of the city people who trained with the founders son and therefor its a more phisical art than that of others..
boscojosh 4 years ago 2
Iwama is a place in the Japan countryside. O'Sensei continued teaching there after the war and Saito Sensei was his longest standing student. Many of O'Sensei's pre-war students didn't continue with him and ventured out on their own (Yoshinkan Aikido). The Iwama eyu style still incorporates weapons training, whereas many other styles don't. The bokken and jo are the origin of all Aikido technique.
RobinSongsmith 3 years ago
I understand Iwama style tends to be a bit rougher than Aikikai. The way Aikido used to be before the hippies took over :-)
Derukugi2 3 years ago 10
Aikidokas that chase the White Dragon, wear badly colored clothes and smell like some sick spice? Where's the dojo at? Ahma sign me up!!!
8dahar1 3 years ago
Exactly. The proper term for those people are Aikibunnies.
ssbmpalyer2010 2 years ago
@Derukugi2 The way you worded your comment is hilarious as well as true. Although I tend to like less aggressive training, I understand aikido's roots well. I don't care for aikido dojos where people just dance around sniffing scented candles and listen to Enya playing from the dojo mini boom box. Honest to God, I went to a dojo for a seminar and found out that there are no belt tests there. People automatically receice belt promotions based on training day numbers!
osirisanubis 1 year ago
@osirisanubis The school I attend is much more rigid as far as belt promotions go. And the level of seriousness about the training is at a maximum at all times. Oh yeah, and no scented candles aloud!
osirisanubis 1 year ago
@Derukugi2 Wouldn't that be Yoshinkai?
cloudstone123 7 months ago
@cloudstone123
Doesn't look Yoshinkan to me at all. But sure, everything is possible.
Derukugi2 7 months ago
@Derukugi2 I just meant that Yoshinkai would be considered rougher than Aikikai.
cloudstone123 7 months ago
@cloudstone123
Yes it is. But this clip is about Iwama, which precedes Yoshinkan by a long time.
Derukugi2 7 months ago
Actually, aikido is useful but its limitations. the best use of aikido is in opening a martial art school because aikido classes can be a tad expensive in some places.
nyairorokidul2000 5 years ago
Aikido is so useless
truthinbudo 5 years ago
Hahahaha, so is a fork if you don't know how to use it.
gosl 5 years ago 3
ur a tool
boscojosh 5 years ago
Aikido is so graceful
handoaus 5 years ago
I love the one at :08. Will have to try that today.
bbrad2 5 years ago
The one at :16 is my favirote.
nappyheaded 5 years ago