Game of Thrones - Catelyn Stark & Jaime Lannister Conversation

[Korica]

I'm really curious as to how Jaime redeems himself or becomes a likable character. For now I still want to see his head on a spike.

[ripelivejam]

*SPOILER?* like Sandor, Jamie's one of those characters that's done one truly horrible thing, but in the end they are pretty much redeemed. more so Sandor in his case (i get the feeling under his rough exterior is a very conflicted and honorable man, and with Mycah he was merely following orders).

[menelik2323]

Jaime is Han Solo.

[BlackyMcBadass]

Man, When she says "Why?" After asking why he pushed Bran, something about the way she says it was really saddening

[MrFistword]

He ´ll be misunderstand till the end I think.

[Tempusmon]

@theu2ba

So you think because I read I am alone? That line of tought is kind of sad, probably why so many kids refuse to read.

[theu2ba]

@Tempusmon Just joking man, and a little trolling haha. I just finished the first book, and I know what your talking about, maybe not to the same extent but yeah I'm alone too.

[modelroni]

He better be glad she didnt beat him to death with that rock. Anyone who pushes my child from a tower is dead. Period.

[bardock2525]

@modelroni not if they have ur husband with them.. :P

[Ypsilon239]

Best sentence in this saeason! "The are no men like me, only me"

Jaime ist my hands down favourite.

[ShadowSonic2]

Book 1: Man, I hate Jaime

Book 2: Jaime's...okay

Book 3: Wow, Jaime's awesome!

Book 4: Jaime FTW!

Book 5: To heck with Tyrion, give me Jaime!

[equallyeasilyfuqyou]

jaime is the best.

[heverchild]

I hated him at first, but after books 3 and 4 I love him. And I totally ship Jaime/Brienne now. :)

[Tempusmon]

@theu2ba

Yes that's why he follows the Warrior (one of the seven gods in SoIaF).

[theu2ba]

@Tempusmon You are so alone.

[EnchantedSweetheart]

No matter how much I like Jaime I gotta side with Catelyn on this one. He tried to kill her child.

[sugarandspice4815]

She should have punched him one last time before walking away... I mean, he just admitted to throwing her son out of a window - a son who is now paralyzed for life!

[matthew21590]

Jaime is so much like the Joker at 1:10

[SuperBundi123]

THUMBS UP IF YOU HATE CATELYN!!! (BECAUSE OF HER ACTIONS IN THE RED WEDDING)

[annawintheer93]

@SuperBundi123 ...her actions?!!?! only thing she did was too try and save her son! and even said:" kill me instead"..why should we hate her for that???

[SuperBundi123]

@annawintheer93 because she killed an innocent man

[annawintheer93]

@SuperBundi123 Wouldn't you kill a man too safe your only living son?

[Barthinater]

why arent they at riverun?

[ZachValkyrie]

@Barthinater And why isn't it the second half of Season 2?

[ShadowSonic2]

@Barthinater They probably didn't have the money for a Riverun set.

[TDXguy]

@Barthinater because Jaime essentially disappears during A Clash of Kings, so they moved this conversation ahead in the narrative, so that he can do something useful next season.

[gemini7Sky]

Jaime Lannister will be on of your favorite character in the season 4 or 5, you'll see:D

[TheBastardSonOfDeus]

I can't wait to see the Ironborn in action.

[redhairmarimo]

it is amazing how much of a dick Jamie is now, but how he changes into such a great guy by book 5.

[BPOOHEAD189]

Jamie is a dime a dozen

[AMpufnstuf]

Jaime might be a sociopath but you can't help but love any character that doesn't have a god delusional. Makes more sense and it also might even benefit you more to pretend you're as powerful as a god than to pretend there is actually something as powerful as a god out there "watching over you".

[SuperMegaH8ter]

@AMpufnstuf Not really, just seems like an extra douche topping to go with pyscho nougat. You kind of have a weird Randian boner for this character.

[AMpufnstuf]

@SuperMegaH8ter I want to sincerely apologize for the thousands of people in the world who found you unattractive enough to lead to this mental illness you've found yourself stuck with

[SuperMegaH8ter]

@AMpufnstuf By golly well done, that was probably the most baffling and delusional comment response I've ever received, and I've had a Serbian nationalist call me a "weg" (I believe he was ultimately trying to say "wog"). Little fellow, you are a credit to the standards and practices of the youtube commentarait.

[AMpufnstuf]

@SuperMegaH8ter How many more words until you feel better about being an adult virgin? I'll gladly help you meet quota.

[SuperMegaH8ter]

@AMpufnstuf Another bemusing statement, I honestly think you have no idea what words are. You must not have a very vicarious social life if your time consists of sifting through youtube to feebly throw insult's that, even you have to realize, come off as blatant projections.

[AMpufnstuf]

@SuperMegaH8ter I check these comments usually when I get home on the weekends, but whatever makes you feel better about not having an exciting sexual history or visible six pack abs is a fine tale in my eyes!

[SuperMegaH8ter]

@AMpufnstuf Yeah sure, you've evidently got a long weekend then. Bored know with the typically youtubeish lies, stupidity, and eternal "so butt-hurt I need to defend my fanboy comment" levels of insecurity, so let me leave a couple points; foremost: learn words, no one has any idea what you're saying. Secondly, it's hilarious when a youtube toolbox who loves pokemon starts talking about "sexual history" and "visible six pack abs".

Whelp, you've been easy. Later kiddo.

[AMpufnstuf]

@SuperMegaH8ter Those are a lot of awkward internet meme type phrases you decided (or instinctively?) put into your lengthy paragraph. I haven't played a pokemon game in years, not sure how much time you so angrily invested in researching me but you'd think you could've kept things modern! Best of luck to you in your journey towards having sex one single time!

[noremacsirref]

@AMpufnstuf why do you insult people?

[keeplisted]

Hey were the hell is the shit kickin!?

[mysteryrocker123]

hey jaime......nice hand

[TheSlevinCalevra]

@mysteryrocker123 Not cool man. Don't spoil shit for people who haven't read the books.

[nrvrine427]

@TheSlevinCalevra There's no use arguing with pricks. 

[DENNISsystem2420]

"I. . . hoped the fall would kill him."

Hahahaha, such perfect delivery.

[SuperBundi123]

SHE IS HURTING JAIME!!

I'M GLAD SHE'S GOING TO DIE!!

[mickel1470]

@SuperBundi123 Jaime is a bit of a bastard anyway.

[mysteryrocker123]

@SuperBundi123 wow you are not going to like what happens to jaime later on......and no he doesnt die

[mysteryrocker123]

@SuperBundi123 from what ive read up to

[doodledee1]

@SuperBundi123 I respect your "Jamie Love" because he is kinda hot. But if he pushed my baby off a tower, my first instinct would be to castrate him and send his nuts back to his sister (COD). I never really bought the whole redemption arc. He's not a more enlightened person. He's just not in a position to do anything but tone his shit down a few notches. He's a dick, but no longer a credible threat to anyone. Like those guys who go to jail for life and miraculously find Jesus.

[nocoma12]

@doodledee1 Definitely respect your opinion, but I have to disagree. I personally think redemption is too strong a word. Nothing can redeem his character after pushing Bran out of a window. Yet, I would argue the later books simply give us a glimpse of the moral ambiguity of his character. Was he a dick in book one? Absolutely. But before that he was also one of the only kings guard who seemed to have a problem with the Mad King raping his own wife and roasting Rickon...

[nocoma12]

@nocoma12 Stark alive. Furthermore, in killing the Mad King he sacrificed his own honor in order to make sure the Mad King couldn't burn down Kings Landing and everyone in it, despite knowing that many people would hate him for it. One could argue there was no more noble an act to undertake. As such, it is established that Jamie does have some good in him. While this is just a personal opinion, it seemed to me that after meeting Brianne and losing his hand to Vargo, he simply...

[nocoma12]

@nocoma12 became more reflective and as such began trying to change the way he looked at and acted in the world. His s*** talking he gives the kings guard when he returns to Kings Landing, the fact that he sends Brianne to find Sansa before Cersie does, and his treatment of the Riverrun lords when he goes to end the sieges' in books for and five prove to me that he is more enlightened. Still definitely not redeemable, but trying at least.

[doodledee1]

2:10 Her expression is just heartbreaking.

[Bagrah10]

@fuckyouvevo123 Yeah, but he's still kind of a prick...

[fuckyouvevo123]

jaime Lannister seems like a prick, but he gets developed into one of the most interesting characters of the series.

[jtilghman3]

Also in this scene Jaime is supposed to tell Cat how the Mad King killed Ned's father and brother

[tikkiturtlegal]

@jtilghman3 the Tullys will probably come in next season which i think will be based on Clash of Kings....i also believe the part where Jaime tells Cat about Ned's father and brother will be next season as Brienne was present when Cat visited him that night.

[jtilghman3]

@tikkiturtlegal none of the tullys have been cast yet, as far as i know. I just don't get why they would take one of the best scenes in the book and split it up and do it differently. In its entirety with the talk about Ned's father, and the part about "i seldom throw children from towers to improve their health" its a perfect scene. I like the show a lot but they shouldn't have touched this scene IMO

[t6253]

@jtilghman3 Shut up book fag

[Utracia1]

@jtilghman3 SPOILER SPOILER ---he doesn't confess what he did or talk about the Mad King until the end of CoK when she has Brienne free him, they bumped this part up for whatever reason...SPOILER SPOILER

[jtilghman3]

I don't get how they don't have the Tully's in the show... or Riverrun. Its going to become a problem later in the series

[AWickedMind]

@jtilghman3 I expect because their long cast list is expensive enough as it is. Unlike in the events of books, shows run on a budget. Also, they have only 10 episode long seasons and have to condense things as much as they can. GoT already has enough split storylines and character POVs to keep up with.

[jpeniera]

dang I really wanted him to say "I seldom throw children from windows to improve their health"

One of my favorite lines of the second book

[theleechlord]

there are no trolls like me. Only me.

[pofOdi]

Just trying to act like the tough soldier

[theu2ba]

Jamie's an atheist!

[MadRATful]

@theu2ba I suppose Jaime was somehow based on Achilles, atheist, not caring for wealth or rule, just about his fighting skills, look at how he mentions "death will come for us all, so why fear it now?" remember achilles saying that in troya?, and that there's no man like him

[SuperKing604]

@MadRATful wow he IS kinda like Achilles good observation

[BritishAbsurdist92]

@theu2ba More so agnostic I'd say.

[Tonypikmin]

@theu2ba As everyone should be.

[Intheend4226]

@theu2ba that explains why he's so full of win =)

[pat5168]

@theu2ba Stannis is too, Robert's younger brother.

[Rhulad]

Why did they leave out his story of Aerys and Ned's brother and father? That was the best part of this conversation, IMO.

[metamorphiclouds]

@Rhulad That scene does not happen until much later in the books. Who's to say Jaime and Catelyn only have one conversation? Obviously, they don't... we have some important scenes later on.

[danceaddict143]

I am in love with Jaime. I can't wait til brienne comes in. Then everyone will know how much I love him.

[ItIsTheInvisibleMan]

@danceaddict143 When he explains why he killed Aerys, and the secret wildfyre plan, i really respected him.

[OutswingingYorker]

@danceaddict143 Exactly.

[Nint3nd04lif3]

This convo in ACOK is amazing. Jaime is my favortie character by far!

[Vearsin]

In the books this conversation between jaime and catelyn is one of my favorite parts of the whole series. Its unfortunate they seem to be seperating parts of it as i think it really would work best as one long scene

[WoAjiey]

Isn't this in Clash of Kings as well?

[Celedam]

@WoAjiey Yes. And in the dungeons of Riverrun, if I remember correctly. But they're beefing up the role of Jaime.

[halofable574]

i feel like they should have broken jaime's back and then tortured and butchered several of his men in front of him to "chasten" him. see how he liked it

[lucyryall12345]

@halofable574 Just wait...

[Gord488]

@halofable574 Why would he care if his men were tortured? He would probably sit there and make witty jests as to the toturers effectiveness and technique.

[halofable574]

@Gord488 true come to think of it. The whole point I was trying to make is that someone should give these Lannister fucks a taste of their own medicine. I made the comment about his men because when he confronted Ned in Kings Landing he told his guys to kill Ned's men in order to "chasten" him.

[SunshineMariah]

I still think she should have slammed that rock into his crotch before she walked off. Would have been awesome!!

[SunshineMariah]

probably one of the best scenes EVER!!! Still think she should have thrown the rock into his crotch when she was done but...all well.

[whydontyoushootme]

They probably wanted to have this bit here for the people that haven't read the books since, in the books, you don't really see anymore of Jaime until quite a ways into the second book.

[Briggie]

@whydontyoushootme I was thinking the same thing with that scene with him and Tywin. I was surprised that they did this scene already, which is in the third book. But it does make sense that they are trying to move his arc forward more quickly than in the books. I can't wait to see how they are going to do the second half of this conversation in the show. It was pretty amazing in the book and very good character development :)

[ZexionII]

Shit for honor!

[tamerlanexp]

"I seldom throw children from windows to improve their health"

[BIRDDOG551]

@tamerlanexp Some of these scenes I wonder why they do not keep to the book?

[elvaelvirababe]

@tamerlanexp lol

[Spicykani]

@tamerlanexp Thats from book 2 :)

[norwenglish]

Kingthlayer!

[friendlycakeasaurus]

yeah but this scene is mostly from towards the end of book 2. almost all of the dialogue line-by-line is taken exactly from the book. one main difference is that in the book Cat already suspects the incest between him and cersei (because of Stannis spreading the word at that point), asks him about it and why he pushed Bran from the turret, and instead of dodging the question like in this scene, Jaime basically confirms it for her.

[SuburbianCamo]

@friendlycakeasaurus and certain other parties are present, and the end of the conversation is vastly different.

[GameMaster255]

BS

[SCBUFC]

There are no men like me. Only me.

[Driopefly]

This is so different from the book...

[randomjoe333333]

@Driopefly Only half the interview the other half in s2 im guessing no point revealing jaime has human yet

[Gitaspeaks]

well at least he owns up to his crime. But still protecting his sister, who is not worth it.