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  • The Browning BDA is a completely different firearm - evolved from the browning high-power - and has nothing to do with the sig design (see the slide rails, frame contours and lack of decocker and compare with the older sig p210). Just thought I'd put it out there.

  • I really enjoy all your video's!! It's because of this video i decided to make the sig sauer p226 my first hand gun purchase. Since then i have added few handguns to my collections from a Springfield XDM, H&K P30, Berreta PX4 storm,. But my Sig is by far my favorite! Thanks Nuntfancy!!

  • Also, I absolutely love the Sig Sauer p226! It's absolutely my favorite gun, although the Sig p229 is really nice in the .40 caliber. I watched all of your Sig p226 reviews and enjoyed them all. I watched them all back to back. After talking my dad's ear off about how often the Sig p226 is, we decided to try it out and are planning on buying one now. Thanks. I just put up some videos of me shooting one. As well as a USP .40 and a few others. I even have a video of me shooting a Desert Eagle! :D

  • Hey I'm Dalton and I just wanted to let you know that my dad and I love your gun reviews. They are unbiased, thorough, and accurate and I really appreciate it. I told my dad about how good your reviews were and he decided to look you up. Now, whenever we have any gun questions, we specifically look for your reviews first. Thank you also for giving our law enforcement and military the props that they so deserve. Please check out my new videos if you get a chance, I understand if you can't. Thanks

  • @nutnfancy

    I just noticed that you didn't change the thumbnail for this vid, thank you, I always liked that thumbnail pic, thank you again for not changing it.

  • Nutnfancy! Just got a Sig 226 Enhanced Elite in .40!! (my first handgun) I am super excited about it, and buying it was even on my bucket list haha.. Its a great gun, and the second kind of cool factor was just through the roof!!

    Thanks for all your reviews and great information that you provide us TNPers!

  • I know he said lets not go at gaga because the Seals used it... but I can't help it ! Lol the fact that the Navy Seals use it has me sold !

  • Sig p226 tac ops is a great combat handgun

  • I love the P226. Great detailed review. I saw this video about a year ago and have been saving up ever since. I just bought one used a month ago and love it.

  • Sig P226 (.40) is excellent. It's my primary duty gun. Love the weight, feel, reliability. I have put around 5,000 rounds through my sig, and have had one jam (which was after almost 700 rounds without cleaning). I would trust this gun with my life, and DO every day. Great review nutn.

  • This is issued to UK forces. I'm not sure about SF but general issue certainly.

  • Once the tax money comes in and these bills are paid, I'm doing my best to get the gadsden edition. It just works for me. I have " Don't tread on me" tattooed across my stomach

  • Hey Nutn' can we get a Px4 review?

  • Decided on the226 thanks to your review

  • sig2226

  • I've watched this review a few times... great job, great format and info, thanks for doing it.

  • do you need bigger sized hands for this gun?

  • @Mrdareguardian2 not at all. i have pretty small hands and it's really ergonomical.

  • Bin laden was not killed in that seal team 6 raid he has been dead long before that from liver disease, the government admitted they faked the situation room photos of Obama & Hilary watching the raid, ask yourself why would they executed him when he is the most valuable asset of terrorist information, buried at sea so no one can confirm his death, no photos released of his corpse, and finally the seal team that took part in the fake raid was all killed off in a helicopter crash.

  • @Dickie2shoes They've also reported him dead like 9 other times before. lol

  • My full size Kabar tanto doesn't even weigh as much as the sig

  • I shot one of these before I bought it. Shot the 9mm version.......ehhh. Shot the .40 S&W version.....oh yeah.

  • Why do people bitch at each other about whose special forces is better on a video about the beautiful and outstanding p226 -_-

    They both have the same enemy's and they also train together...

  • nutnfancy, after watching your string of videos giving the points and counterpoints for the sig p226, i found the points outweighed the counters on this one for me at least and helped me pick the p226 as my handgun of choice. and you were right, it feels terrific when holding and shooting. thanks for your review, it really helped!

  • If the cost was the problem, they could have done what the french did and go with the p2022

  • Navy seals are good but not as elite as s.a.s, nice shooter.

  • @TARRA030 I would bet everything that you never went through any of their training. FYI, the S.A.S are not like the SEALs that are trained for air, land and sea operations all at once in each individual operative. The S.A.S. are an elite group and so are the SEAL's. before you act like you know shit about the two do some fucking research.

  • Thanks for taking the time out to give your priceless military and law enforcement experience. Not all people are this willing to give this information without twisting there arm. I also find this a great tool for when Im purchasing new firearms in consideration how expensive fire arms are these days.

  • The navy seals our the best in the world !!? hummmmm Don't think so nutnfancy

  • @bulletheed1970 who do you think is? oh wait its not a fact if you think someone is best.

  • @4everUSNavy Ive worked with them in the past . There good but not the best . But ive worked with a lot of sf and its all down to people in them or the regiment there in.

  • @bulletheed1970 common man listen he says "ONE of Americas and the worlds most elite military units"

  • it would be the nice if the military would completely switch to the XD or Sigs, cannot stand that damn Beretta.

  • Wow, the Sig is a dinosour in terms of weight compared to the Glock.

  • Lol Id like to point out it's used by the RCMP and the Canadian armed forces.

  • Like to point out that it's used by the RCMPas well as the Canadian armed forces

  • Does anyone know if older factory Sig P226 9mm 15 and 20 rnd mags will work in a new Sig P226? By older, I mean manufactured in the early 1990s. Thanks.

  • swiss quality ;)

  • @Blackenise89

    swiss quality made in Germany !!! ^^

  • @Montreal1989 hahaha yes xD but we made it hihi

  • @Blackenise89

    äähh no The Sig Sauer P226 was made in Germany / Eckernförde ok !!!

    or did u want to tell me something about german guns ???

  • @steady speedin thanks bro

  • beutyful weapons, the p226 just feels better for some reason. the glock slide ends up cutting the thumb up tho..

  • hay man what does some half to do to shoot with you iv been watching your show for some time now and would like to hand with you and your boys

  • whats with the ads?

  • Nutnfancy, if you only had one choice which would you choose the P226 or the P228?

  • great video check mine out GoldenGunVideos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    aks  ars mac10s and much more!!!!!

  • LOLOLOLOL: Its like comparing 2 of your favorite children together...wait comparing your children

  • Love myp226 . Always wanted one since i first read the "DEATHLANDS " series by James Axler.Was used by the lead character, Ryan Cawdor....

  • what is better glock 17 or sig p226

  • @BigDawg17musicluver SIG P226

  • @BigDawg17musicluver when u have the money take the p226 if not take the g19(not the g17)

    sry for bad english im ger

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  • Someone get this guy a TV show already

  • @robwtsn106 We also have elite teams like SEAL Team 6, or Delta Force that use the worlds top notch technology.

  • @robwtsn106 Well, we have a MUCH larger military, and the Sig P226 is not a cheap gun. Also we use M9's which are just fine, and saves our tax dollars.

  • Love the vids, can you make a video on the HK USP And MK23?

  • Game over man, game over!

  • The nice thing about the P226 is that you can easily convert from a 9mm to a .40 for around $350, also if you have a P226 in .40 you can switch barrels to .357 sig for around $175, tha mags for the 357 and 40 are the same. that way you can train with 9mm for cost savings, easily switch to .40 or .357 for much more punch. With todays hollow points the diff b-tween 45acp and .40 or 357 sig, no big deal.

  • the British MoD also uses this as their standard sidearm and so do alot of armed British gov. personnel. doessn't instantly make it the best gun in the world, but the MoD gets alot of respect and for them to choose this gun means something to alot of people.

  • Great Video. Very Detailed, Thank u for it. I Love the Sig Sauer P226, I Think its 1 of the Best Hand Guns of All Time. I'd Put it in my Top 2 Choices of Hand Guns that "I'D" Choose if I were Goin to War and I could Choose my Side Arm. The Sig 226 would be in my Top 2 Along with my Glock 19. I Love the Glock 19, I Consider it 1 of the Best of All Time as well. Both Guns are Accurate, Reliable, and Rugged. The Glock may be a lil Easier to Manipulate though. Its Also much Lighter than the Sig.

  • And Michael Reese from Terminator

  • @88RBack I Believe the Character from Terminator that ur Talkin about is "Kyle Reese" Played by Michael Beihn.

  • Micheal Biehn was also in "Navy SEALs" with Charlie Sheen

  • What's that on your left thumb knuckle?

  • this or hk 45?

  • @goochie94 When I went to take my handgun safety course, the gun that I chose to shoot, was the H&K .45. This was the first time that I ever shot a gun. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that thing. After the class, I rented a Sig p226 and shot it. The difference was like night and day. My groupings were very close together with that gun. When I buy my first gun, it's either going to be a P226, or a P229. Are Sigs expensive? Yes, but you get what you pay for.

  • @SteadySpeedin in the H&K's defense, a .45 AUTO kicks so much harder than a 9mm. it's not the gun's fault, but a 9mm is much more beginner friendly. i should know, i had the same problem shooting my friends 1911. then i picked up my navy buddy's beretta and i could actually shoot it with some accuracy.

  • @zdkezios You know what...I think I have my models mixed up. The one I shot was a P220 chambered in .45 ACP. Sorry for the confusion.

  • Hey nutnfancy, I went shooting for the first time today and rented the 226. Everything was amazing but I felt quite a bit of muzzle flip (I think that's the proper term), do you think this is an isolated incident or is it common with the 226s? Thanks and love your vids learning a lot

  • After extensive tests the finalists for the US Service Pistol in 1985 were the Beretta, SIG, and S&W. A credible rumor (I am cleared for rumors) back then was the Beretta was chosen in return for the Italians adopting the BELL Huey helicopter and a license to produce them in Italy. I own a Beretta 92 9mm but am watching this excellent vid thinking of getting a SIG 226 in 357.

  • I am getting a Sig Sauer P226R This Weekend Cus of this Review

  • Are you left handed? I see what looks like rail bite on your left hand.

  • can you guys do a review of the SiG P25 once?

  • just throwing out some info a company called zastava makes a high qaulity clone of the p226 looks like it to a T

  • I always say if it's good enough for the SAS (or SEALs) then it's good enough for you and me.

  • Michael Biehn is the Man! He was also a Seal team leader in "The Rock" love your vids Nutnfancy!

  • Hey Nutn, I purchased a Browing BDA .45 ACP in May 1977 . . . It cost $269 plus tax back then. it was my college graduation present from me to me . . .

  • I would not pit the Glock against the Sig. The Glocks are a poly frame gun where as the Sig is metal.

  • WAIT! forget the SIG, where did you get the Harsy?!?

  • I am a Sig Sauer Nut, but I did shoot a Glock 17 today. I was very impressed with how the glock handled. It was not as accurate as the Sig Sauer P226. However It is lighter and easier to do quick draw and did hold 1.5 inches at 15 yards. For what you pay for the Glock you do get a very good bang for your buck.

  • Did the Coast Guard adopt this gun as well (.40 cal)?

  • @GunsOfThePhoenix  The USCG adopted the P229 in .40.

  • this dude knows his guns yeah, I have a navy stamped P226. But holy shit could he get any more gay?

  • Michael Bien (Bean) also played a Navy Seal in The Rock.

    

  • Holy chitballs buddy! You like that glock at all? You and Mr. glock need a minutes alone? I just knew at any moment you were gonna start strokin it. JEEZ

  • I bought my Sig 226 mainly on your review and recommendation but now I find that the barrel of the gun shows a lot of wear which I find unacceptalbe in a $900 gun. Is there an aftermarket barrel that is better for my Sig 226? Should I use black paint or some other finish to protect the barrel?

  • @ross512009 You should get real and keep shooting. It's a SIG.

  • @arwarfighter Hey guy I'm selling my Sig 226 E2 in .40 caliber with 3 mags shot 300 rounds through it like new conditon with case lock instruction book for $775 if you are interested. Main reason selling I have small hands too big for my hand even with E2 grip.

  • Mk. 23 vs P226

  • @FeckleFart91 What are you talking about? You're comparing a double stack .45 offensive combat pistol to to a double stack 9mm/.40/.357 SIG duty pistol. Apples to oranges. Besides, the Mk. 23 is HK's biggest disappointment as far as practicality goes. The damn thing is a crew-serve pistol.

  • This is the gun that killed Osama the seals primary jammed and switched to his secondary and that's the gun that killed him

  • favorite handgun

    

  • can u review the 229 if you get a chance?

  • @92civichonda no problem man. I know ten rounds compared to a 33 round mag for a glock! Its not fair! Hahaha

  • Why do I want to go to war with obama? I just hate him

  • @blamtam I'd fight next to you brother

  • @92civichonda Alberta, im not sure about the police or military, and i guess saying every firearm in canada was an over exageration, but i know that they are limited to ten rounds for civillian use. I've actually looked it up and found it on one of the rcmp's websites.

  • @Thundakleese360..... Alberta, nice man. and thanks for the information, I knew the government was strict on gun laws but only 10 rounds.... hmm....

  • in canada every firearm is limited to a ten round magazine :(

  • @Thundakleese360 What province do you live in? do you mean for civilians or police and military? because the cops around here use sig 226's with the full sized mags..........

  • @Thundakleese360 I thought it was 5 rounds.

  • @ERF420 Handguns are restricted to 10 rounds, but some rifles are restricted to five rounds. Ive seen some rifles come with a five round mag but there are 10 round mags available to purchase seperately. Personally i dislike the gun laws in alberta and canada, in some ways i want our government to be old red necks who like guns and in others i dont (they are generally not the sharpest tools in the shed)

  • @Thundakleese360 And how you cannot get AK47s FNFAL, FN FNCs SVDS etc, when you can get gun that function/look near enough the same.

  • the p228 forged slide wouldnt be able to handle the pressure's of a more powerful round thats why the p229 was made

  • the p228 is the same size as the p229. only difference is the p228 has a 3 piece forged slide and then p229 has a solid machined slide. the p228 also is only available in 9mm as the p229 is available in 9mm 40sw and 357sig.

  • SIG P226 = Hands down, my FAVORITE 9mm hangun.

    Also, Michael Biehn was also a SEAL team leader in The Rock. Apparently Hollywood thinks he IS a NAVY SEAL.

  • Seal are pretty damn good but what about SAS, Spetznaz, Z-force(old but still) , SOG etc. Great vid

  • @MrPunfag None of them killed bin Laden.

  • @danebake you tard

  • @OnlineCombatBattal "Tard?" I'm just telling the truth. 

  • @danebake lol it has noting to to with the reverent of this vid Binlarden was USA's no one target so of course team 6 would have taken him out just as if he was Australian's no one target it prob would have been SASR that would have invaded another contrary's air space with out permission and shot him in tha face with what ever weapon they where caring at the time my point is all special force teams are the best of the best a cut above the rest in imo they are all very much alike high skilled

  • @OnlineCombatBattal bin "Larden".

    Anyway, you seem to be missing my tongue in cheekness. The thing about Special Forces is that they aren't like sports teams that you can compare for no reason. I know that, I'm just messing around on the internet.

  • @OnlineCombatBattal Also, I'm not dismissing the reputation of any other outfit, I'm just stating a fact.

  • Nutnfancy I love each and everyone of your vids but come on dude saying Navy Seal are the most elite unit in the world it feels like a lack of choice of words

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  • My wife and I almost watched The Abyss tonight, haha. Just picked a P228 and like it a lot so far. Good thoughts Nutn.

  • Nutn I know you like high value and good quality I would love to hear your opinion on the Sig SP2022 9mm. I see them all the time new for around $400. I also know that some military units and LEO's are carrying them. If time allows I would love to see a review of that gun. Thanks and keep up the good work

  • I wish the military police or security forces carried a sig p226 or a sig p229, cause my hands are not the biggest.

  • @TheGreatAntonio2010 The Navy MPs (Master-at-Arms) use M11s. (P228s) I believe. Same size as the P226.

  • Love the 226

  • Why, Johnny Ringo...looks like sumbody just walked all over your grave.

  • It may not be light, you can club the shit out of dudes when you run out of ammo :)

  • So does the Marine Corp allow officers to carry their own personal firearms?

  • @Snyder1224 Nope.

  • @danebake Thats some Bullshit.

  • @Snyder1224 Tell me about it. They don't like anyone sky-lining themselves, even if it's just having a better sidearm than that Italian piece of shit.

  • do you have a review of sig 2022?

  • Real quick comment here. Nutnfancy your reviews are very detailed and great, however you get WAY off track alot. It's somewhat frustrating when i'm trying to listen to a review on something, but half of the time the speaker (you) goes off and talks about things that really have nothing to do with the actual topic. If you actualy stayed on topic...your video's would be 8 minutes instead of 15.

    But again, other than that, your reviews are great.

  • @chris49vt Sure, he gets carried away. But he is extremely passionate about his weapons, and clearly has a lot of experience ang knowledge that he wants to share with the rest of us. On a personal note, i'm quite glad he shares his experience...

    If you dont like his style, watch the other reviews out there. But i dont think you can find some that covers so many details that Nutnfancy does...

  • Nutnfancy I am in the Marine Corps and i could tell you your sources are correct when they said it was to expensive to adopt in the military but ive fired the P226 and the M9 which we use and id prefer the P226 any day of the week over the M9

  • Problem with SIGs is that they've gone through brand dilution and the general consensus is that QC has gone down. Some SIGs are uber-reliable, others have quite a few issues for a self-defense service pistol in it's price range. I think you can get a good one, but you have to know what you're getting; US vs German/Swiss parts, etc.

  • im with mrkb34. ive seen alot of sig 226's and had at least 3 of them. but that newer e2 is something i might be interested in. the main reason i sold the other 226's was bc it was so big for a 9mm. i might as well carry a 45. but that e3 seems promising. thanks

  • @indigows2000 You think the 226 is big for a 9mm? What do you think about a 92FS?

  • can you switch the mag realease buttons on this?!?!!? plz answer!!!

  • @aldaman8 Yes you can, the take down lever as well.

  • Nothing against Sig, or Glock, but I wouldn't put myself in any life or death situation with any 9mm. Bottom line, personal opinion.

  • @TackDr1ver Cause you're a newfag.

  • @TackDr1ver Victim of hype. It's not the size of the round, it's the skill of the shooter. You shouldn't depend on the round to make your kills. I've dropped folks with an M9 in two shots center mass. It's training, not packin' a .50 AE that'll save you.

  • 226 is GOLDEN standard for pistols. My problem is if you use a competition grip, you can put enough pressure on the slide release so that the slide will not lock on last round. My grip presented a problem that could not be corrected. I rented the Beretta, M&P, XD, H&K and Glock and for me the Beretta was the best of the bunch ....UNTIL....I shot the CZ 75B Omega. I love the Sig and the Beretta but the CZ is BUTTA..all steel, cold forged barrel, poly rifle, inverse slide, uber accurate

  • looking for a review not a history lesson. thanks tho i feel enlightened!

  • Hey NutnFancy, I was wondering where you got that Bill Harsey knife. I've been looking for a site that sells them.

  • I like Sig , only problem they are way over priced

  • hey nutn, how about a tabletop and range review on the p226 E2. i saw your vid from the convention, but a more in-depth on how your friends with smaller hands like it, and if there are any structural issues that came up when they down sized the grip, etc. i have size 7 hands but i really like the p226...everything expect the size that is. the e2 seems like it would be a viable option, but i've heard about some issues with the hammer not fully descending.

  • My sig mag's are made in italy.

  • Can someone explain to me SIG's DAK trigger? I am going in the Coast Guard, and was told that their 226s all have DAK triggers.

  • @ThaBR33D Its basically the same as Glock's "safe action" trigger. kind of a DAO with lighter trigger pull and shorter reset. Sig and HK are getting alot of play out of it with homeland security contracts.

  • @ThaBR33D Oh it also resets itself, so it has second strike option

  • @ThaBR33D It's nothing like the GLOCK trigger. It could be more compaired to the HK L.E.M. DAK stands for "Double Action Kellemer" after the German engineer at JP Sauer. It's a 5 1/2 to 6lb double action with an intermediate reset. Once you rack the slide the trigger is set. If the gun fails to cycle due to a weak primer strike or if you shot stroke the trigger, the trigger pull will then be 8lbs. It takes time to get used to, but it can make you a better shooter.

  • can you do a pistol in 40 S&W? i've been wondering if it's worth getting a beretta or a sig in .40 S&W or 9mm? (the question being the caliber and how the gun works with it)

  • i hate the way the sigs point. the sights sits way too high. i sold my p229 for cheap and got a beretta.im more a glock and 1911 guy.

  • @socom16762mm It's called "Point of aim, point of impact". Unlike the 6 O'clock sighting hold that most are used to here in the US. I didn't like it myself. I changed all my Sig's to a 6 O'clock sighting set-up

  • I have the P226 P220 SP2022 and tomorrow I will have the P229 in 9mm. Sig for life

  • Just a little tid bit... I was in the market for an M9 but decided to honestly look at the P226. After comparing side by side, I actually decided on the Sig. I purchased one on 29 Jan 2011, took it out for the first time last weekend, shot ~60 rnds and the takedown lever broke off!!! My mileage varied :-) Also I had to straighten out getting the incorrect caliber mag with the pistol from the factory! I am thinking I made a mistake.

  • @RebelSapper Update: I contacted Sig and they didn't hesitate to send me a new pin. When it gets here we'll try 'er again...

  • Seals and Marines kick ass!!!!!!

  • awesome review of my best favourite pistol. thx NUTNFANCY Project for awesome reviews with tons of info!!! I just dont have resources/time/money or experience to gather all this cool info myself. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on these things. BTW, I did find MecGar made in italy also has 18 rnd mags for the p226 9mm. with no extensions and the bottom of the baseplate barely sticks out just a hair lower than the factory 15 rd mags.

  • Great job nutnfancy how much did you pay for the 226?

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  • @RebelSapper Not sure what alternate dimension you are living in, but Feb. 29, 2011 has not occurred yet.

  • @Sting3733 Oops, I meant January...

  • And people that usually talk bad about sigs usually talk badly because they cant afford one and can afford a glock. Its like comparing a corvette vs a ferrari. Ya they are both fast but they just arent in the same league

  • At rockwithaglock. P226 comes in 9mm 40smith and 357sig.

  • Wow @ hoboboxerjoe! Where the hell does this guy get off at? Where the fuck is his videos? Nutnfancy is doing a service on this spare time! Hobojoe go back to your basement lair.

  • So would thousands of other people. These wars we are fighting are not right. We went into Iraq for what reason exactly? I support the LIVES of our truths, I know for a fact from personal experience what it's like over there and in Africa. I have seen combat and had to use guns and hand-to-hand to defend my life and end others. I know war and I know combat. And I love your reviews. But you have clearly not looked at the other side of the situation. And I do wonder if you have seen combat yoursel

  • Which is great. It's your viewpoints. But, and I'll just be honest here. The stuff I've heard you say a bout Obama, the NRA, and "Obamacare" and socialized medicine has been ridiculously ignorant and untrue. Liberals ARE and DO love guns, I am one of them. If it weren't for the democrats and Obama stepping in during the health crisis (which not a single soul on the republican side was doing anything about, they had eight years, and yes, Clinton had 8 as well...) I'd likely be dead.

  • PS: I disagree that "America is Number 1! We are the best!" I think that is INCREDIBLY arrogant, NutnFancy. I love your reviews, I understand your a redneck and a conservative and proud of it. More power to you! Be who you want to be! But I'm sick to death of hearing how SEALS are better than everyone else when Spetznaz, Israeli Special Forces, the SAS have men on there (just like the SEALs do) that could best each other. Consistently. Also, you inject your political thoughts into your reviews..

  • I'm holding a Sig p226 special navy edition right now, it has a Navy cross on it :). My dad gave it to me, he was in Nam. We're both oddities, we love guns but we're both liberals and support gay rights, marijuana legalization, etc. And we're atheists, so we don't fit the typical Utah gun-lover mold hehe.

  • The SEALS also use HK's for their 45 needs. Had the MK23 and now HK45c with tactical upgrades.

  • Whaddya think between the HK p30 vs the SIG p226? Good match, imo :)

  • I recently purchased a Sig P226 Elite Dark, and the factory magazines are indeed marked as being produced in Italy by Mec-Gar.

  • To be honest, I prefer a bit heavier weapon... seems to smooth out the recoil a bit.

  • How long have you had your P226? Also what kind of problems have you ran into? Just to confirm, the p226 uses 9mm?

  • @nutnfancy

    Which is the better firearm in your opinion, the sig p226 or the springfield xdm both 40 cal

  • Why does everybody compare every handgun to a Glock? I don't have anything against Glocks but it's rather annoying..

  • LUKA Do U think that EZ9 (CZ99) is copy of p226 or vise versa?

  • 10:10 what happened to your finger??

  • Difference between the 226 and 229?