I expected this to be more exciting, but they're all really conservatively dressed. There's one in my town coming up, and given that I'm in America, I can with great certainty assure myself that the ante will be upped ten fold. Uncle Sam will be proud with a tear in his eye. God Bless America, America!
There's no excuse for rape, rape needs to be prevented, and rapists need to be searched for and punished. I will leave that as a stand alone sentence...here's the rest though: It's up to YOU to guard yourself. "Criminals shouldn't..." isn't reality. YOU have to take proper measures. Reality hits hard, and your ideals about what you should be able to do and not be bothered evaporate when some creep or crazy gets some idea in his head and you have no defences in place.
What a bunch of trumped up crap. The PC guard is all over the cop and his comments. I can tape $100 bills to my clothes and get sloshed at a bar if I want, but I expect it will temp a criminal to take them. Girls KNOW they should protect themselves. Girls with SENSE anyway. They go out in groups, watch each other's backs, don't accept drinks from strange men, try not to get too drunk, etc. Predatory men look for easy targets, like any predator...drunk, alone, with lots of skin tempts them.
Annual??? You mean there's going to be a slutwalk every year? Bloody hell... What's next? They gonna give sluts their own holiday, like Mother's Day? The world is going down the gutter... I think all good women should rise up and have their own parade every year protesting these sluts making women look like foolish, over-sexed animals. Do you women really want the world to think you're all sluts and proud of it? Good thing I know a lot of good women to keep my respect for women alive and well.
Look, when a women Has tons of casual sex, she is a slut, if a girl wants to wear a tank top and short shorts in the summer, fine, but when I see the ass cheeks in short shorts, YOUR DRESSING LIKE A SLUT. When you have pride for having consensual casual sex on a massive scale, then you as a women are a good for nothing slut. More then half of women never report being raped. This third Wave of Feminism is an excuse for white whores to be WHORES (white man here no hijab arab girls=right for me)
:( this kinda brakes my heart. i was hopeing to find lots of comments about how it should never be the victums that they were raped, but instead i find all this hate, and bad grammer. and if everyones quoteing the bible and the koran, then you guys more then anyone should be loveing and understanding.
@theamazingvan People have to take care to protect themselves. Rape victims don't "deserve it". It's that criminals don't follow ideologies about "That person can do that, it's legal, and so I have no right to commit the crime..." They see opportunities and victimize people. Some people want to say "you can't say that" to the cop, when he's trying to re-inform (women should know already) about what helps to protect them...reality.
let someone tell me did Jesus tell men to marry each other and women to go topless in public ? how dare you , you sold out your principals and you are trying to lead the humanity to the lowest level . your behaviors not even practiced among the animals in the jangles.
These uppity bitches wouldn't last A DAY IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!! Where they rape women for not wearing a head scarf and stone or lash them for it being there fault.
Our women in the west have to much rights and the more they get the more disrespectful they are to society. Feminineness and "tolerance" is bringing down western civialztion. Its doing more damage to the west via low birth rates then Hitler, Stalin or Mao could ever have dreamed of.
if you dare answer me how do u know women in middle east are getting raped if they do not wear a head scarf?
you r an idiot women in middle east get their rights and full respect there is no comparison between them and your slut women. you guys do not understand the meaning of freedom there is no absolute freedom does jesus accept that for western women? you sold your values under the name of fucking freedom go enjoy your naked life.
LMAO, nice try but sharia law in the Koran says if women are raped you need 3 male witnesses to testify, in some cases women cant drive (Saudi Arabia) and the religious police in some place like Iran you can get arrested for not wearing your head scarf.
Freedoms in the middle east??? So why are you in Canada???
If you muslims are going to lie to us westerns, try next time not to make it so oblivious.
listen bitch, do not mess with me i have evidences to shut your dirty mouth, i am not gonna waste my time with a stupid slut who does not know the difference between rape and adultery. people like you do not understand religion cos there is a big gap between you and them. go with those sluts you r from them. do not think one time you are a human you are not more than insect crushed under my shoe.
what you see in saudi arabia or iran do not represent islam if a christian kill some one like the Norway terrorist we cant blame the Christianity for his act there are lots of muslims do not follow real islam . we dont lie to your filthy culture. so shut your mouth i live where i want all the earth for us what values u have ? day by day you guys sabotage your life and religion by your sick absolute freedom.
@harithutube Like I told your retarded ass its in THE KORAN about women being raped you need 3 male witness to testify. So dont give me any of that "oh its forbidden because its bad" crap.
hey listen ignorant. now u going to tell me whats written in Quran. go read Quran properly and try to understand because stupid people like you do not understand from books they understand from your stupid media. who told you they need three men as witnesses a women who is raped by someone needs to prove that same like everywhere and once she has an evidence she can get her rights. go educate yourself first you are mixing between rape and adultery.
@harithutube No-one told me that. Its in the Koran. I've read the Koran and its obvouse Muhammad was a fraud. Your a tool and a ignorant fool. Heres the verse.
Bukhari (6:301) - "[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'"
The lady at the end said the slutwalk was to demonstrate that women are not less deserving of protection and respect if they dress or act like sluts...
Excuse me? Nobody deserves to get raped, but you are indeed less deserving of respect and borderline less deserving of protection. If you dress or act like a hussy, you get treated like a queen?? No, you get treated like the worth you put before your dignity. You get treated like a slut and deservingly so.
@ladyEulaelie "but you are indeed less deserving of respect and borderline less deserving of protection." Why is someone less deserving of respect just because you don't care for what they are wearing? I'll treat anyone with respect, regardless of what they are wearing, as long as they treat me with respect. I don't see what's so difficult or unreasonable about that. Why must women asexualize themselves to be worthy of respect and legal protection?
When I speak of respect, I'm not speaking of consideration for humans, but of admiration, esteem and honor. My perceptions of these females dressed like "sluts" in the slutwalk is not a good one. I'm embarrassed by them. I would rather that we stand up and say, NO, I'm NOT a slut, I'm not sexually involved w/ men I'm not married to and if someone wants to call me a slut for being pretty and outspoken, who cares? We all know what a slut is. If the heel fits, wear it.
@ladyEulaelie A protest about societal slut shaming isn't about getting people to develop a deep admiration and honor for perfect strangers they encounter out in public. Though why simply dressing "slutty" should instantly mean that someone is no longer worth such esteem and honor is beyond me. I would think that would be based on something more significant than style of dress.
It's simple. If someone just snatched my purse and you are dress like a cop and I see you, I might have the impulse to do what? If the paparazzi are looking to make money and you look like a famous movie star, guess what their impulse might be? If I'm chocking and a person near by looks like a nurse or doctor, guess what would my impulse might be? Why should the impulsion be any different with a rapist who sees a target, he sense as easy? His impulsion is to...cont.
... approach you because you look less vulnerable and off guard. You are exposed...sort of analogous to a piece of meat hog tied above the head of a lion. Make the lion catch you and work for his impulses to harm you. It's the smart thing to do that if you don't want to run the risk of being assaulted, physically present yourself as woman who is on guard b/c to a rapist, you being a woman is factor in his mind that you have already lost b/c you are physically weaker than him.
@ladyEulaelie Slutty clothing doesn't make you any more of an easy target. If anything, loose fitting clothes would make it easier for a rapist. So wouldn't skinny jeans and a corset be harder to get off than sweat pants and a t shirt? Are you suggesting that a man's natural inclination towards an attractive woman is to rape her? I know the men in my life don't feel the need to rape anyone who arouses them.
Interesting. I think our dress makes us more of a target psychologically to an attacker. Women who are in certain circumstances and dressed in a "slutty" way ironically appeal to an attackers mentality to easily disassociate you from reality. In his mind you are not an average, everyday, normal looking woman who probably has kids; you are the nameless porn actress at his disposal who he no longer gets a thrill off of on the internet, and seeks to thrill himself w/ in person.
Interesting. I think our dress makes us more of a target psychologically to an attacker. Women who are in certain circumstances and dressed in a "slutty" way ironically appeal to an attackers mentality to easily disassociate you from reality. In his mind you are not an average, everyday, normal looking woman who probably has kids; you are the nameless porn actress at his disposal who he no longer gets a thrill off of on the internet, and seeks to thrill himself w/ in person.
I'm not speaking of everyday clothing. I'm referring to club wear, more or less. Something that wouldn't be appropriate for the office or for church and you only seen worn typically at night.
No, not at all. I'm not suggesting that a man's natural inclination to an attractive woman is to rape her. Rapist make up what? one percent of the population?? It is my opinion that most men are good, not evi, the way they are portrayed in the media and by the feminist movt.
I'm referring to club wear or something that would not be appropriate to wear to the office or to your child's parent teacher conference meeting. Skinny jeans can be worn appropriately but anything can be worn inappropriately.
And no, of course I not suggesting that a man's natural inclination towards an attractive woman is to rape her. I personally believe that most men are good, not evil, like the way they are portrayed in the media and by mainstream feminist groups.
@ladyEulaelie (cont 2)You would rather "we" say "I'm not involved with men I'm not married to? Well, sorry, that doesn't reflect reality. Not every woman shares your personal sexual morals. That shouldn't mean we're any less entitled to basic respect, consideration and legal protection.
I don't care if you tie both legs to opposite ends of fire dehydrates, yes, you are still entitled to legal protection, but I can't speak for you as far as consideration and respect.
These women make me SO ANGRY to the point that I want to punch a wall. I'm so disappointed, b/c by simple observance, they are not giving off the appearance of intelligent women who have high regard for their bodies and want others to high regard for their bodies as well. The fist unclenches b/c why should I or any other man or woman give a damn about the slutwalk parade if these "sluts" don't look like they give half a damn about themselves???? I can't take this seriously.
@ladyEulaelie That's because you believe that having a high regard for one's body means being modest and keeping sexuality more private. And that's fine if you feel that way, but not everyone equates having respect for one's body with modesty. Not everyone equates having an active sex life or expressing sexuality with a lack of respect for one's own body. Just because someone is openly sexual doesn't mean they don't give a damn about themselves.
If you are a woman who is having sex with multiple men or women. you. do. not. give. not. one. damn. about. your. body. You are a skeet catcher, more than likely, a booty call vampire. I want that for NONE of my sisters, b/c every woman, regardless of her past, is worth more than that. But hey, it's a woman's personal choice...I'm not mad at her.
@ladyEulaelie "If you are a woman who is having sex with multiple men or women. you. do. not. give. not. one. damn. about. your. body" Maybe you should think about WHY you feel that way. Why does having sex with multiple [artners indicate that someone doesn't respect themselves? If they're seeking out the sex life they want, how does that indicate a lack of respect for one's own body?
Sex involves more than sexual pleasure. I will give you two points.
Part one. Sex is pleasurable to most, and it is meant to be. You may not want children or be able to become pregnant, or you may want children one day but currently are choosing methods of contraception, but in principal, the sexual union between a man and women is brings forth reproduction of our children who were not meant to be raised only by their mothers. If you are actively taking part in...continue.
@ladyEulaelie "Sex involves more than sexual pleasure" It certainly can. Then again, it also doesn't has to. Why do children matter "in principle" if children are never going to happen? You're basically judging strangers for their sex lives based on a criteria that doesn't have to apply to them.
@ladyEulaelie My question is, if it only applies in "principle," then how is that really relevant? If a woman makes up her mind that she's not going to have any kids, then she doesn't have to have any kids. So in that case, it doesn't matter how many men she has sex with. So why does the "principle" matter if she is, in reality, not having any children? Who is being victimized?
Unless you are an alien female and an alien male who can have sex like humans, but only reproduces by way of swapping goo only found at the leader of all aliens spaceship headquarters, than yes a criteria does apply to you if you are having sex. In principal...IN PRINCIPAL, sex is the taking on of the responsibility of becoming a parent. Put some thought behind your actions, besides, oh this just feels good and I'm enjoying myself.
cont. and I say this humbly....I never said I was better than someone who could be described as a "slut" by dictionary terminology. I'd rather look at other's as being better than myself. And yes, my comment most certainly was a judgment on behavior. We all mess up but let's be honest and not lie to ourselves. Pls drop the, "you're judging folks" business. I don't apologize for my comments and not everyone is going to agree w/ me...I undertand that and It's perfectly ok.
@ladyEulaelie ."I never said I was better than someone who could be described as a "slut" by dictionary terminology." you kind of did when you said they were unworthy or respect and borderline unworthy of protection. You certainly are judging people. I'm not against all judgment, but I really don't see the sense in passing judgment regarding personal choices that effect no one else. It's just a way to appear morally superior while (ironically) putting others down for no good reason.
Yes, like I said, I did give a judgment on behavior. I laid down a set of values that I believe are general and should be applied to all, including myself. If I say people shouldn't rape, am I judging people who rape? No. But I have no problem judging ppl who rape.
Our choices effects everyone. My main focus is on how our sexual choices has the potential to reflect on the outcomes of your sexual choices...our kids. Children are the future and our future effects everyone.
@ladyEulaelie As I said, I'm not against all judgment. It makes sense to judge someone if their behavior actually infringes upon someone else's rights. Like rapists. It doesn't make that much sense to judge or degrade people for personal practices that do not infringe upon anyone else, like their sex lives. What their doing doesn't harm you, yet you choose to harm them. And then claim it's in the name of morality.
@ladyEulaelie "My main focus is on how our sexual choices has the potential to reflect on the outcomes of your sexual choices...our kids." It's obviously not about that, since you judge all people (or perhaps just women) for their sexual behavior whether they have kids or not.
That is because of the principal of sex. Every can have sex, so yes, I judge all people who have sex. You don't have to have kids...I've already addressed that. Please read carefully. In principal....you know what principal means? In principal, in essence, sex is the only way to produce children. So our sexual behavior should be tailored to what is THE BEST situation we can provide in response to the outcomes of our sexual choices. That's all I'm saying.
@ladyEulaelie Just saying "it's the principle" doesn't explain anything. The principle isn't relevant. If the criticism is that a child could be victimized by being born into a bad situation, then that criticism no longer holds up if the woman just makes sure that there is no child born into a bad situation. If one isn't going to have children, it doesn't make sense to base your sex life around children.
A woman may not be able to bare children and the principal still applies. No children need be involved for the essences of the principal to stand correct. A lot of women "tried" to make sure no children are born and they failed. No woman wants a bastard child. It makes every bit of sense to base the activity you do WITH YOUR REPRODUCTION ORGANS AROUND REPRODUCTION. Not mad...just emphasizing. It's like saying, I don't think what you cook should be based on cook utilities.
@ladyEulaelie "A woman may not be able to bare children and the principal still applies" And it is still completely irrelevant. And it is still just as ridiculous to navigate your sex life around having children when you are not going to have children. There's a surefire way to make sure a child isn't born. Abortion. It need never be left to chance."No woman wants a bastard child." Obviously plenty do, given the business of sperm banks and what not. Not everyone cares about the "bastard" concept
I've already said that yes, I'm judging behavior. Why you are so caught up on someone judging you is beyond me. Is it b/c you feel convicted w/in yourself?? I don't know you in particular or what you do, so how can I be judging YOU?? Sweetie, Do you. I'm openly sharing how I feel about sexuality and human behavior, not how I feel about YOUR character or other person's characters. I can say I feel an action is wrong but what has that got to do with you personally?
@ladyEulaelie "Why you are so caught up on someone judging you is beyond me." Because judging and degrading others for ridiculous reasons causes societal problems. Tolerance is a virtue, and one that benefits society more than arbitrary rules about what consenting adults do in privacy. I am using "you" the general sense, not accusing you of judging me specifically.
Someone spammed you..I don't know why, but I hit the "not spam" button, because I don't see anything wrong with what you said. Maybe someone is trying to start beef and get things hype. Be on guard....just saying girl.
"I am using "you" the general sense, not accusing you of judging me specifically"
I'm not sure why my judging anyone's behavior is wrong. Don't tell me what you "feel" like I'm doing, come at me with what I said. You may feel like I'm judging others....again, I'm judging behavior. I have not laid any verdict to a slut or a slut's character. A slut is not a nice term, but that's because the action of a slut isn't so nice. Slut is a functional word and I'm judging the action
@ladyEulaelie When you say that a certain type of person is less worthy or respect and protection, you can't then say that you are only judging the behavior and not the person. Saying someone is less worthy of respect is a very personal assault on them, not just a criticism of behavior. "but that's because the action of a slut isn't so nice." Based on what, if it harms no one? Let's not pretend "slut" isn't a derogatory word.
I'm not better than anyone before the eyes of the God I serve. That is the context of my comment. I'm not better than a rapist either, but I do personally feel that a rapist is unworthy of my respect, especially one that is not sorry of his actions.
If a woman, may think being a "slut" is perfectly fine, but if she is not going to carry herself in a way the world sees as respectful, why on earth would expect the world to respect her or protect her virtue as woman??
@ladyEulaelie "I'm not better than anyone before the eyes of the God I serve" Just more worthy of respect and protection than those sluts? Those are rather contradictory statements. "but if she is not going to carry herself in a way the world sees as respectful, why on earth would expect the world to respect her or protect her virtue as woman?" So basically, when someone's beliefs don't conform to a societal standard, they are less worthy of protection?
@ladyEulaelie "I'm not better than anyone before the eyes of the God I serve" Just more worthy of respect and protection than those sluts? Those are rather contradictory statements. "but if she is not going to carry herself in a way the world sees as respectful, why on earth would expect the world to respect her or protect her virtue as woman?" So basically, when someone's beliefs don't conform to a societal standard, they are less worthy of protection?
"when someone's beliefs don't conform to a societal standard, they are less worthy of protection?"
When I speak of protection, I'm not speaking of laws...I'm speaking of social protection that steams out of social respect. In other words, if I am not a "lady", but a "slut", I should not expect the respect a lady receives. When our beliefs don't conform to societal standards on how we should respectfully behave we SHOULD NOT EXPECT SOCIAL RESPECT...not mad just emphasizing.
@ladyEulaelie "When our beliefs don't conform to societal standards on how we should respectfully behave we SHOULD NOT EXPECT SOCIAL RESPECT." Where does this leave room for consideration of the possibility that society may be wrong? That it may be best for society to adjust what may be unreasonable or unfair standards? Where does this leave room for a value of tolerance that can allow us to live in peace with others despite differences?
Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one. And it makes sense for society to look down on certain types of behavior, b/c in the end it hurts all of us over time. Why is it unreasonable to stick to one person? Biologically, children are not reared in months...it takes years. So why would it not make sense for humans to have one sexual partner and stick to them the best they can? Even animals who rear their young for years stick w/ one sexual partner for life.
Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one. And it makes sense for society to look down on certain types of behavior, b/c in the end it hurts all of us over time. Why is it unreasonable to stick to one person? Biologically, children are not reared in months...it takes years. So why would it not make sense for humans to have one sexual partner and stick to them the best they can? Even animals who rear their young for years stick w/ one sexual partner for life.
@ladyEulaelie "Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one." That's not a valid argument. In fact, it's a well known logical fallacy called the ad populum fallacy. The popularity of an idea does not prove it's validity. Experience suggests it is not reasonable to expect people to mate for life. Most people don't succeed at that. Some would say our biology suggests that we are only meant to mate with someone for the first few years of a child's life.
No biological or sociological concept supports broken homes. Why is it unreasonable for a woman to not mate with multiple men...ten, twenty men whom she is not married to when I see so many women having no more than two or three sexual partners because they have made up their minds that they are not going to sleep around?
@ladyEulaelie "No biological or sociological concept supports broken homes" Nature is cruel. Nature doesn't necessarily support what's convenient for a modern society. What's natural isn't necessarily what's right. I don't think nature cares about your home life as much as you think. It's not unreasonable for a woman to have few sex partners. But why is it unreasonable for her not to?
Nature is cruel. It's particularly cruel when ppl are sexually promiscuous. Shouldn't ppl do what is ultimately more advantageous? Two parents raising a kid is more optimum and advantageous than just one. Would it not follow that females should have commitment THEN sex, where a man is less likely to hit the road once he finds out she's due?
Also, the emotional response and attachment to our sex partners in the release of endorphins after sex. What purpose does that serve?
@ladyEulaelie "Two parents raising a kid is more optimum and advantageous than just one." That's true. But it doesn't necessarily have to be a biological father for there to be two or more people involved in raising a child. In matrilneal societies paternity often doesn't matter, since the women's family is involved in raising her children anyway. They don't tend to care so much about promiscuity. There's an example of a system that works just as well, if not better.
@ladyEulaelie "Two parents raising a kid is more optimum and advantageous than just one." That's true. But it doesn't necessarily have to be a biological father for there to be two or more people involved in raising a child. In matrilneal societies paternity often doesn't matter, since the women's family is involved in raising her children anyway. They don't tend to care so much about promiscuity. There's an example of a system that works just as well, if not better.
From the reference point of an Black American woman, I've seen too much as far as jacked up children who are bastards and are struggling w/ their emotional and mental health, trying to gain normalcy all b/c of their mother's sexual choices. I'm tired of seeing my sisters as single mothers, sexing men who don't give not one damn about them. TIRED. Enough. Respect yourself and don't let these bums who won't marry you go up inside you and break you down like a shot gun.
@ladyEulaelie According to this rant then, you should have no problem with a woman who has as much sex as she wants and never has children. But that's not the case, now is it? And why is it only the woman's sexual choices? Didn't it take a man making some choices to lead to that situation as well?
"According to this rant then, you should have no problem with a woman who has as much sex as she wants and never has children."
What rant?? That woman is still reckless... even if she is barren. Your statement just as much sense as saying that you should have no problem with a person who drinks and drives but never gets into a car reck. Both behaviors are irresponsible.
My comments mentioned males. If I wanted to talk more about men I would. I'm addressing us females.
@ladyEulaelie "That woman is still reckless even if she is barren" How so? In order for something to be reckless, there has to be some sort of potential negative consequence, right? It's not comparable to drunk driving if the risk is removed (i.e. impossible for her to get pregnant). It's more like drinking when you know you're going to be taking a cab home anyway." If I wanted to talk more about men I would. I'm addressing us females. " Yes, and I think the focus on females is revealing.
She is reckless w/ the principal of the female body. She is detrimental to herself, not just to offspring she will never have. There is more than one benefit to not sleeping around. You are a "slut" chances are you are also sleeping with other men who care just as much as you do about their bodies, or worse, care less as much. You create a greater potential to catch disease from where they've been....which is w/ other reckless women. You asked for my opinion and I gave it.
@ladyEulaelie This whole "doesn't care about their bodies" doesn't seem supported by anything but a vague religious concept. I'm sure there are people in the world who would say you are a wonton slut who shows no respect for her body because you're not, say, wearing a burka or a headscarf. Wouldn't you say they're just projecting their own belief system onto you? How is that different?
I come from a secular view point, not a religious one. That is my personal opinion that a sexual promiscuous person doesn't care about their bodies. Burkas and head scarfs have little to no value in western culture. Let me ask you...why is it that women who are not "sluts" tend to have a healthy emotional state of mind? Why is it that most females that are troubled exhibit "slut" behavior? Think about it.
@ladyEulaelie Perhaps I should have called it a vague spiritual concept. "Burkas and head scarfs have little to no value in western culture." Of course. That's my point, all of this stuff is just arbitrary cultural BS. It only matters if you buy into it. It's not some objective truth. "why is it that women who are not "sluts" tend to have a healthy emotional state of mind? Why is it that most females that are troubled exhibit "slut" behavior?" I don't think that's true at all.
"Young but troubled girls living in poor neighbourhoods tend to become promiscuous, engaging in sex with older boys, according to a study. “Young girls… in disadvantaged neighbourhoods are more likely to initiate sex… especially those young women with conduct problems,” said co-author Véronique Dupéré, post-doctoral fellow at Tufts University, who completed the research at Université de Montréal."
@ladyEulaelie First of all "according to a study" is not exactly persuasive. Secondly, I have a problem with comparing children to adults. I agree that kids who have less going on in their lives might be more quick to start having sex. But it doesn't follow that any adult woman who decides to "play the field" is disfunctional.
I see it nearly almost everyday. A teen girl or a woman is admitted on my unit in the hospital for major deep depression and every single one of the girls are with several boys or nearly grown men, not because of some power they have, but because they hurt. Cutting, drugs, alcohol and being promiscuous is how they elevate their pain. Healthy girls don't engage in these activities to the point they are cutters, addicts, alcoholics or "sluts".
@ladyEulaelie So it's your job to deal with people in crisis, yes? Of course that's going to give you that perspective. After all, you're not going to see all the women who have multiple partners and aren't in crisis, are you? They would have no reason to go to you. I believe that's called confirmation bias.
But you know what is interesting? These women and young girls that I see and have even had very personal conversations with, don't want to be promiscuous any more. They see that their behavior of cutting, drinking, or doing drugs, disobeying their parents, or not being good parents is a manifestation of their way of self-medicating their pain.
@ladyEulaelie Again- of course the people who are coming to you want to change their lives. If they were happy with their lives and didn't want to change things, they wouldn't be there. It may be quite possible that promiscuity is not a positive thing for those particular people. But that doesn't mean that's the case for everyone. Because after all, your job wouldn't put you in contact with people who are promiscuous and healthy and happy.
Research has found "a dramatic relationship" between sexual activity among adolescents and "multiple indicators of adolescent mental health. Compared to abstainers, membership in any of the risk clusters was associated with increased odds of depression, serious thoughts about suicide, and suicide attempts."[63]
-Adolescent Depression and Suicide Risk: Association with Sex and Drug Behavior". American Journal of Preventive Medicine
@ladyEulaelie Again- why does all your info have to do with sex and children? Do you have any info relating to adults? Do you believe sex is the same for children as it is for adults?
The adults are just as mess up. They are usually the ones who graduated from the kids unit.
"As [Ross Douthat] summarized, the study found that "the happiest women were those with a current sexual partner and only one or two partners in their lifetime." He also noted that a "young woman’s likelihood of depression rose steadily as her number of partners climbed and the present stability of her sex life diminished." cont.
"An Empirical Study," found that "the happiness-maximizing number of sexual partners in the previous year is 1." In other words: The happiest people -- men and women -- were those who had only slept with one person in the past 12 months. But he adds, "A lot of people might guess this without looking at our kinds of statistical equations. - his 2004 paper, "Money, Sex and Happiness
but he does not conclude that promiscuity is the 'cause' of unhappiness.
I think our dress makes us more of a target psychologically to an attacker. Women who are in certain circumstances and dressed in a "slutty" way ironically appeal to an attackers mentality to easily disassociate you from reality. In his mind you are not an average, everyday, normal looking woman who probably has kids; you are the nameless porn actress at his disposal who he no longer gets a thrill off of on the internet, and seeks to thrill himself w/ in person. You agree?
@ladyEulaelie I do not agree. this is nothing more than pondering what might be going through the mind of a rapist. I don't think men see women different because they dress slutty. Those men have issues towards women in general. The truth is, we're more likely to be attacked by someone we know and trust when the opportunity arises, not by a stranger who sees us walking down the street in a mini skirt.
Doctor of adolescent medicine Meg Meeker writes, “Teenage sexual activity routinely leads to emotional turmoil and psychological distress. [Sexual permissiveness leads] to empty relationships, to feelings of self-contempt and worthlessness. All, of course, precursors to depression.”
- Meeker, Epidemic: How Teen Sex Is Killing Our Kids, p. 64;
"Experts recommend that sexually active adolescents be screened for depression and be "provided with anticipatory guidance about the mental health risks of these behaviors."[61][63] Professors at the University of California recommend that parents and health professionals help teens prepare for and cope with the emotions attached to sex."
-Denise D. Hallfors PhD, Martha W. Waller PhD, Daniel Bauer PhD, Carol A. Ford MD, and Carolyn T. Halpern PhD (2005)
Again, I am not presenting a perspective is religious. I'm not saying that if a woman doesn't read the Quran or the Bible she is a slut. Sex is universal and every has sex. That how does two things are different. Why do you feel as though someone is projecting their beliefs system onto anyone? If I said that I believe that everyone should get high on a blunt once a day....you may disagree, but I highly doubt that you would feel that I'm projecting anything on you.
@ladyEulaelie "I'm not saying that if a woman doesn't read the Quran or the Bible she is a slut. " No, but someone else would. I don't know why I should give your particular slut shaming views more consideration than theirs. You are projecting your beliefs, you've admitted it's your belief. It's not backed up by hard facts. It can only be a belief. There's no logical reason for people to accept someone else's beliefs, so it;s ridiculous to expect them to.
Why is having a belief synonymous with projecting a belifes on others? To me, that means to force your beliefs on others. I didn't say that I expect ppl to accept my beliefs. I'm just giving my opinion of what I believe.
@ladyEulaelie Someone who believes going out without a headscarf is shameful would look at you and conclude that you have no respect for yourself (assuming you do not wear a headscarf, of course). The logic being 1) it is shameful to be without a headscarf so 2) someone who doesn't wear one must not care enough about themselves to protect themselves from that shame. Of course, it only makes sense because they accept #1 as a given.
@ladyEulaelie Why does it matter if the belief is religious or not? You have your beliefs regarding sex and honoring one's body, other people have theirs. Whether it classifies as religious doctrine or not is irrelevant.
I think it's ridiculous to take away someone's freedom of speech just because you disagree with what they are saying...I also think it's ridiculous to conclude that just because someone given their opinion that they think a certain behavior is wrong that you would jump to the conclusion that they are judging "people" instead of "behavior" when they have not mentioned character.
@ladyEulaelie "I think it's ridiculous to take away someone's freedom of speech..."No one is calling for censorship. You are free to say whatever you want, and others are free to critique it. Free speech is a two way street. You can't say someone is "less worthy of respect" and then try to pretend that it's not personal and only about the behavior. Declaring a person to be less worthy of respect is very personal and beyond a mere criticism of a behavior.
@ladyEulaelie "I think it's ridiculous to take away someone's freedom of speech..."No one is calling for censorship. You are free to say whatever you want, and others are free to critique it. Free speech is a two way street. You can't say someone is "less worthy of respect" and then try to pretend that it's not personal and only about the behavior. Declaring a person to be less worthy of respect is very personal and beyond a mere criticism of a behavior.
@ladyEulaelie As for disease, it's true the risk is increased, but it's still very minimal if the proper precautions are taken. We all play more fast and loose with our health everyday when we eat unhealthy food or even get in a car. I don't see why we should judge people so harshly for the minimal risks they accept in having protected sex.
I wouldn't exactly compare sticking a spoonful of sugar in my mouth to sticking something infected with HIV in my mouth or any other opening to my body. What precautions? Condoms? As far as keeping bay all the diseases and infections floating around, condoms are kind of a joke. What does the back of the condom say about STDs? I'm speaking of actions here...so why should I not be direct about the behavior I see that is damaging to women, men and particularly children??
@ladyEulaelie Okayyy... I don't think anyone else would make that comparison either. Not sure what you're trying to say there. Condoms are a joke? I think all evidence suggests they do an extremely good job. Since condom usage was enforced in Nevada brothels there hasn't been one incident of HIV transmission. In decades. Yes, there are still risks involved in sex. As in most things in life. The risks involved in protected sex being relatively small.
Globally speaking, I don't think condoms are the best way to promote not spreading stds. Condoms in your third world countries are often poorly manufactured. They are kept in the heat and by time people get to them....it's not that they are not being used right, the condoms are just poorly made and stored. But I digress....
@ladyEulaelie "Condoms in your third world countries are often poorly manufactured." The obvious answer seems to be that we need to make sure people have access to quality condoms, not to scrap the idea of condoms entirely.
Condoms may help but they don't seem like the best way to prevent STDs. It's like driving with partial vision instead of full vision. I think the best way is to get tested, you and your partner/s and stick only to each other.
@ladyEulaelie I wouldn't advise people that being in a monogamous relationship is preferable to using condoms. Lots of people have gotten STD's because they trusted their partner when they should have still been using condoms. Besides, the evidence suggests condoms do a very good job at preventing STDs.
"Lots of people have gotten STD's because they trusted their partner when they should have still been using condoms."
Well, someone in that relationship wasn't be monogamous. Condoms definitely help but I'm telling you...they don't protect against all STDs. Condoms only cover the penis. you can still get STDs from skin to skin contact
@ladyEulaelie Not to mention, there's also plenty of sex acts people can engage in that have zero chance of resulting in pregnancy. Of course, being labeled a slut often doesn't have anything to do with someone's actual sex life. "Slut" is pretty much used to describe any overt sexuality in a woman. It could just be the way she dresses, or flirts. So disease and pregnancy really has even less to do with it.
I'm not talking about the slang def. of slut. Sex does not have to result in pregnancy for principals to be lowered. A woman who has a high self esteem...chances are she is not sleeping w/ multiple men. She sees value in herself that cause her not to be a "slut". The opposite tends to be true for an emotional disturbed person. If you want to ask why, the statistics so severely point that to be a the case fine. I don't see any need to dispute what has been frequently found.
@ladyEulaelie "A woman who has a high self esteem...chances are she is not sleeping w/ multiple men. She sees value in herself that cause her not to be a "slut"." This is nothing but more empty assertions. It does nothing to further your argument. Show me these statistics.
@ladyEulaelie "Show you the statistics? How long have you been living?? " Studies should be looked at on an individual basis. If these statistics are so abundant then my request for you to show them to me should be very easy to fulfill.
I'm not putting anyone down. I told you I see everyone better than myself. I'm encouraging my sisters to stand up and do what is honorable to them. Stop sleeping w/ E to the Eddie Freddie who only comes around to pick you up after dark for a booty when his tank is on empty so you can fill it up and he can have a night w/ a happy ending and be F to the Freddie w/ a full tank of gas. It would feel good to do lots of things, but "feeling good" is not always a legit reason.
@ladyEulaelie Yes, you are. When you say someone is "less worthy of respect and borderline less worthy of protection" you are indeed putting those people down. To then suggest you are not is just empty double speak. What if that woman is happy with her sex life and is taking precautions? Why should she care if you think she's degrading herself, based on your own personal beliefs that she doesn't share?
...the mode of reproduction of our future generation, even if you don't want to become a mother every time you have sex, it is our duty to provide the best environment for our offspring, and that is not a single parent house hold. Broken children are usually born from broken mothers who where overcome by their sex drive rather than their smarts. I tired of seeing the pain from the child born from those situations.
...the mode of reproduction of our future generation, even if you don't want to become a mother every time you have sex, it is our duty to provide the best environment for our offspring, and that is not a single parent house hold. Broken children are usually born from broken mothers who where overcome by their sex drive rather than their smarts. I tired of seeing the pain from the child born from those situations.
IMPO, sex is to be enjoyed between two ppl who love each other. Even if they don't want kids, if the woman gets pregnant, at least the child will have a greater potential to be raised in a happy, ordered home with a mother and father. This is the best situation, not a fly by night, let me prove how strong and independent I am, situation. Your pride and joy shouldn't be spawned by way of booty call. That is ridiculous. I've seen it too many times.
IMPO, sex is to be enjoyed between two ppl who love each other. Even if they don't want kids, if the woman gets pregnant, at least the child will have a greater potential to be raised in a happy, ordered home with a mother and father. This is the best situation, not a fly by night, let me prove how strong and independent I am, situation. Your pride and joy shouldn't be spawned by way of booty call. That is ridiculous. I've seen it too many times.
IMPO, sex is to be enjoyed between two ppl who love each other. Even if they don't want kids, if the woman gets pregnant, at least the child will have a greater potential to be raised in a happy, ordered home with a mother and father. This is the best situation, not a fly by night, let me prove how strong and independent I am, situation. Your pride and joy shouldn't be spawned by way of booty call. That is ridiculous. I've seen it too many times.
I know you see it differently, but to me, sex is a giving away of yourself away, particularly if it'syour virginity. If a man is going to have sex w/ me, he has to want ALL of me...not pieces of me...a pieces of my breast or another body part, or personality. If he doesn't find me worthy to marry, why should I give him something he is not really asking for by sexing him? I'm not giving something I esteem of worth, away for an O. That's like giving something away for nothing.
I know you may disagree but to me, sex is a giving away of yourself, esp. if it's your virginity. He could be everything I've always desired, but if a he wants to have sex w/ me, he has to want ALL of me...not a piece of breast, thigh, or personality. Until he commits to me, I'm not giving him what he is NOT asking for. I'm not giving away something I esteem for an O. That's like giving away something special for something common,. That's giving away something for nothing.
@ladyEulaelie That's fine for you to decide that's what sex is for you. It's fine for you to feel that way. It's not so reasonable to project that onto other people and then judge them for it, since it's really a very personal choice that needn't effect anyone else. Virginity isn't really anything, it's just a lack of something (sexual experience). The idea that a woman gives herself away when she has sex seems very patriarchal.
Why is it patriarchal to say that a woman gives herself away when she has sex? A man gives himself away, as well, when he has sex.
It's not virtuous to withhold sex or for one to keep their virginity for a noble purpose. I get that. I won't speculate why you feel that way. A woman may be loose in every direction, It's never too late for her to start respecting herself. Once a slut is not always a slut. I wish you would address my original comment about the video.
@ladyEulaelie "Why is it patriarchal to say that a woman gives herself away when she has sex?" I don't see how you actually "give yourself away" by having sex. You can never truly give yourself away, you always have yourself. I think the idea stems from the patriarchal idea that a woman's worth was based on her chastity. She is "giving herself away" in the sense that she is worth less to a potential male partner who would want her exclusively to himself.
I'm not asexual, but I'm not a tramp, hoe or slut. We need to regain our sexual power back. w/ it carries high responsibility + temperance and no, I'm not talking about skeet catching devices. Where is the dignity in promoting slut-hood? Men like sluts...alot, but they don't respect sluts. Want respect? Be a women who is worthy of the respect and honor thats due protection. Forget this promotion of slut-hood, I'm trash but don't step on me mentality b/c it's backwards.
It's fun to walk like that in a crowd at 2:00pm in the bright day in open area none of them will walk around 2:00am at night in the park dress like that! It's wrong that men attack women just like it's wrong that people steal cars but we shouldn't have a day when we "drive our cars leave the key in it and open door in front of a high school day"
ladies please take note: if you have a shirt that people see through, or a skirt so short half your butt is hanging out, or other items of clothing that can be seen as slutty. if a man sees you he is not thinking " she looks like a nice girl". what he is really thinking is "how can i bone her tonight". so think before you dress.
The body is a piece of art, and like a piece of art in an art gallery, nobody has the right to touch it unless you say "yes". Blame the criminals, not the "sluts"!
these women are stupid. If you go out and dress like a slut and walk around a dark ally you are asking for trouble more than if you are prudishly dressed. Your stupid walk wont change the fact the cop was dead right on what he said.
@TheCardiak Really? You think if there's a rapists lurking in the bushes for a victim, he's going to let all the modestly dressed women pass and hold out till he finds someone who's outfit he prefers?
@MissTemperence Actually, yes, women are alot less likely to get raped when they don't dress up like whores and flirt with anyone in order to get free drinks. The police officer was 100% correct, but just didn't use the proper words.
Why can't you see a balance in things? No woman deserves to be raped, even if she has managed to remove all her clothing at a block party, but if a woman is aware that in public forum exist both heros and perverts, she would be using common sense to cover up and not turn herself into a rape target. I can't believe there's an actual "walk" to be careless, mindless and less protective of our precious bodies. Women are much more protective over things of less worth and value.
If I see a modestly dressed women I would be modest towards her, if she went out of her way to cover her beauty I would respect that and love it. But if she's dressed like a slut, I wouldn't give a Sam about HER and my animal instinct will kick in and I would just state at her parts. This is the reality. Slut=1 night. Modest= for ever
It's not a question if these women should not dress like this to avoid rape, the question is when women dress like this do they get the respect of men more or less then a modestly dressed women? Hell no! You dress like a slut you get treated like a slut, it's human nature. Who would marry any of these scrags geez
Ok to the doofuses talking about how "wrong" women are to dress that way and how it encourages rape you have no idea what your talking about. For one blaime the criminal not the victim. For another your thinking like a healthy rational person with a healthy natural sexual appetite. Thats a very good thing (beter then thinking like a rapist) but rapists are not healthy people with normal appetites if they were they wouldn't be rapists duh.
To all sluts who thinks they a doing a wonderful acts and very proud of it , to me you are having a very low moral and a shameless creature. If things went wrong dont cry as a wolf cry. Idiots!
But we in it shall be remembered- We few, we happy few, we band of sluts; For she to-day that sheds her clothes with me Shall be my slut sister; be she ne'er so vile,
I expected this to be more exciting, but they're all really conservatively dressed. There's one in my town coming up, and given that I'm in America, I can with great certainty assure myself that the ante will be upped ten fold. Uncle Sam will be proud with a tear in his eye. God Bless America, America!
SyrupPiratesdotcom 1 month ago
There's no excuse for rape, rape needs to be prevented, and rapists need to be searched for and punished. I will leave that as a stand alone sentence...here's the rest though: It's up to YOU to guard yourself. "Criminals shouldn't..." isn't reality. YOU have to take proper measures. Reality hits hard, and your ideals about what you should be able to do and not be bothered evaporate when some creep or crazy gets some idea in his head and you have no defences in place.
newguy33X 1 month ago
What a bunch of trumped up crap. The PC guard is all over the cop and his comments. I can tape $100 bills to my clothes and get sloshed at a bar if I want, but I expect it will temp a criminal to take them. Girls KNOW they should protect themselves. Girls with SENSE anyway. They go out in groups, watch each other's backs, don't accept drinks from strange men, try not to get too drunk, etc. Predatory men look for easy targets, like any predator...drunk, alone, with lots of skin tempts them.
newguy33X 1 month ago
Fucking idiots all need to be raped.
skysuka2013 1 month ago
@1:24 I dont think this woman has to worry about being "victimized"
MaxamillianArturo 1 month ago
lol i wonder how meny STD's were marching with them lmfao
allhailmegatron1 2 months ago
i cant masturbate to this
insanerenee 2 months ago
Annual??? You mean there's going to be a slutwalk every year? Bloody hell... What's next? They gonna give sluts their own holiday, like Mother's Day? The world is going down the gutter... I think all good women should rise up and have their own parade every year protesting these sluts making women look like foolish, over-sexed animals. Do you women really want the world to think you're all sluts and proud of it? Good thing I know a lot of good women to keep my respect for women alive and well.
carlinsaves 2 months ago 2
Look, when a women Has tons of casual sex, she is a slut, if a girl wants to wear a tank top and short shorts in the summer, fine, but when I see the ass cheeks in short shorts, YOUR DRESSING LIKE A SLUT. When you have pride for having consensual casual sex on a massive scale, then you as a women are a good for nothing slut. More then half of women never report being raped. This third Wave of Feminism is an excuse for white whores to be WHORES (white man here no hijab arab girls=right for me)
MeatstickRob88 3 months ago
lol stupid skanks.
HipHopJun 3 months ago
:( this kinda brakes my heart. i was hopeing to find lots of comments about how it should never be the victums that they were raped, but instead i find all this hate, and bad grammer. and if everyones quoteing the bible and the koran, then you guys more then anyone should be loveing and understanding.
theamazingvan 4 months ago
@theamazingvan People have to take care to protect themselves. Rape victims don't "deserve it". It's that criminals don't follow ideologies about "That person can do that, it's legal, and so I have no right to commit the crime..." They see opportunities and victimize people. Some people want to say "you can't say that" to the cop, when he's trying to re-inform (women should know already) about what helps to protect them...reality.
BTW Religion and warm understanding? What? No.
newguy33X 1 month ago
let someone tell me did Jesus tell men to marry each other and women to go topless in public ? how dare you , you sold out your principals and you are trying to lead the humanity to the lowest level . your behaviors not even practiced among the animals in the jangles.
harithutube 4 months ago
This is something to be proud of now?
scottvska 4 months ago
These uppity bitches wouldn't last A DAY IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!! Where they rape women for not wearing a head scarf and stone or lash them for it being there fault.
Our women in the west have to much rights and the more they get the more disrespectful they are to society. Feminineness and "tolerance" is bringing down western civialztion. Its doing more damage to the west via low birth rates then Hitler, Stalin or Mao could ever have dreamed of.
fargonbastedge 4 months ago
@fargonbastedge
if you dare answer me how do u know women in middle east are getting raped if they do not wear a head scarf?
you r an idiot women in middle east get their rights and full respect there is no comparison between them and your slut women. you guys do not understand the meaning of freedom there is no absolute freedom does jesus accept that for western women? you sold your values under the name of fucking freedom go enjoy your naked life.
harithutube 4 months ago
@harithutube
LMAO, nice try but sharia law in the Koran says if women are raped you need 3 male witnesses to testify, in some cases women cant drive (Saudi Arabia) and the religious police in some place like Iran you can get arrested for not wearing your head scarf.
Freedoms in the middle east??? So why are you in Canada???
If you muslims are going to lie to us westerns, try next time not to make it so oblivious.
fargonbastedge 4 months ago
@harithutube
listen bitch, do not mess with me i have evidences to shut your dirty mouth, i am not gonna waste my time with a stupid slut who does not know the difference between rape and adultery. people like you do not understand religion cos there is a big gap between you and them. go with those sluts you r from them. do not think one time you are a human you are not more than insect crushed under my shoe.
harithutube 4 months ago
@fargonbastedge
what you see in saudi arabia or iran do not represent islam if a christian kill some one like the Norway terrorist we cant blame the Christianity for his act there are lots of muslims do not follow real islam . we dont lie to your filthy culture. so shut your mouth i live where i want all the earth for us what values u have ? day by day you guys sabotage your life and religion by your sick absolute freedom.
harithutube 4 months ago
@harithutube Like I told your retarded ass its in THE KORAN about women being raped you need 3 male witness to testify. So dont give me any of that "oh its forbidden because its bad" crap.
Take your BS elsewhere.
fargonbastedge 4 months ago
@fargonbastedge
hey listen ignorant. now u going to tell me whats written in Quran. go read Quran properly and try to understand because stupid people like you do not understand from books they understand from your stupid media. who told you they need three men as witnesses a women who is raped by someone needs to prove that same like everywhere and once she has an evidence she can get her rights. go educate yourself first you are mixing between rape and adultery.
harithutube 4 months ago
@harithutube No-one told me that. Its in the Koran. I've read the Koran and its obvouse Muhammad was a fraud. Your a tool and a ignorant fool. Heres the verse.
Bukhari (6:301) - "[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'"
fargonbastedge 4 months ago
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Could you imagine the irony if one of these women were raped at these walks.
sveinbjorn1 5 months ago
Could you imagine the irony if one of these women were raped at these walks.
sveinbjorn1 5 months ago
"Sensitivity training" This is why Western Civilization is in free fall. Fucking PC thugs.
nikkisixxual 5 months ago
@nikkisixxual Yup
fargonbastedge 4 months ago
The lady at the end said the slutwalk was to demonstrate that women are not less deserving of protection and respect if they dress or act like sluts...
Excuse me? Nobody deserves to get raped, but you are indeed less deserving of respect and borderline less deserving of protection. If you dress or act like a hussy, you get treated like a queen?? No, you get treated like the worth you put before your dignity. You get treated like a slut and deservingly so.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "but you are indeed less deserving of respect and borderline less deserving of protection." Why is someone less deserving of respect just because you don't care for what they are wearing? I'll treat anyone with respect, regardless of what they are wearing, as long as they treat me with respect. I don't see what's so difficult or unreasonable about that. Why must women asexualize themselves to be worthy of respect and legal protection?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
When I speak of respect, I'm not speaking of consideration for humans, but of admiration, esteem and honor. My perceptions of these females dressed like "sluts" in the slutwalk is not a good one. I'm embarrassed by them. I would rather that we stand up and say, NO, I'm NOT a slut, I'm not sexually involved w/ men I'm not married to and if someone wants to call me a slut for being pretty and outspoken, who cares? We all know what a slut is. If the heel fits, wear it.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie A protest about societal slut shaming isn't about getting people to develop a deep admiration and honor for perfect strangers they encounter out in public. Though why simply dressing "slutty" should instantly mean that someone is no longer worth such esteem and honor is beyond me. I would think that would be based on something more significant than style of dress.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
It's simple. If someone just snatched my purse and you are dress like a cop and I see you, I might have the impulse to do what? If the paparazzi are looking to make money and you look like a famous movie star, guess what their impulse might be? If I'm chocking and a person near by looks like a nurse or doctor, guess what would my impulse might be? Why should the impulsion be any different with a rapist who sees a target, he sense as easy? His impulsion is to...cont.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
... approach you because you look less vulnerable and off guard. You are exposed...sort of analogous to a piece of meat hog tied above the head of a lion. Make the lion catch you and work for his impulses to harm you. It's the smart thing to do that if you don't want to run the risk of being assaulted, physically present yourself as woman who is on guard b/c to a rapist, you being a woman is factor in his mind that you have already lost b/c you are physically weaker than him.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Slutty clothing doesn't make you any more of an easy target. If anything, loose fitting clothes would make it easier for a rapist. So wouldn't skinny jeans and a corset be harder to get off than sweat pants and a t shirt? Are you suggesting that a man's natural inclination towards an attractive woman is to rape her? I know the men in my life don't feel the need to rape anyone who arouses them.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Interesting. I think our dress makes us more of a target psychologically to an attacker. Women who are in certain circumstances and dressed in a "slutty" way ironically appeal to an attackers mentality to easily disassociate you from reality. In his mind you are not an average, everyday, normal looking woman who probably has kids; you are the nameless porn actress at his disposal who he no longer gets a thrill off of on the internet, and seeks to thrill himself w/ in person.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Interesting. I think our dress makes us more of a target psychologically to an attacker. Women who are in certain circumstances and dressed in a "slutty" way ironically appeal to an attackers mentality to easily disassociate you from reality. In his mind you are not an average, everyday, normal looking woman who probably has kids; you are the nameless porn actress at his disposal who he no longer gets a thrill off of on the internet, and seeks to thrill himself w/ in person.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I'm not speaking of everyday clothing. I'm referring to club wear, more or less. Something that wouldn't be appropriate for the office or for church and you only seen worn typically at night.
No, not at all. I'm not suggesting that a man's natural inclination to an attractive woman is to rape her. Rapist make up what? one percent of the population?? It is my opinion that most men are good, not evi, the way they are portrayed in the media and by the feminist movt.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I'm referring to club wear or something that would not be appropriate to wear to the office or to your child's parent teacher conference meeting. Skinny jeans can be worn appropriately but anything can be worn inappropriately.
And no, of course I not suggesting that a man's natural inclination towards an attractive woman is to rape her. I personally believe that most men are good, not evil, like the way they are portrayed in the media and by mainstream feminist groups.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie (cont 2)You would rather "we" say "I'm not involved with men I'm not married to? Well, sorry, that doesn't reflect reality. Not every woman shares your personal sexual morals. That shouldn't mean we're any less entitled to basic respect, consideration and legal protection.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I don't care if you tie both legs to opposite ends of fire dehydrates, yes, you are still entitled to legal protection, but I can't speak for you as far as consideration and respect.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
These women make me SO ANGRY to the point that I want to punch a wall. I'm so disappointed, b/c by simple observance, they are not giving off the appearance of intelligent women who have high regard for their bodies and want others to high regard for their bodies as well. The fist unclenches b/c why should I or any other man or woman give a damn about the slutwalk parade if these "sluts" don't look like they give half a damn about themselves???? I can't take this seriously.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie That's because you believe that having a high regard for one's body means being modest and keeping sexuality more private. And that's fine if you feel that way, but not everyone equates having respect for one's body with modesty. Not everyone equates having an active sex life or expressing sexuality with a lack of respect for one's own body. Just because someone is openly sexual doesn't mean they don't give a damn about themselves.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I don't recall mentioning "modesty".
If you are a woman who is having sex with multiple men or women. you. do. not. give. not. one. damn. about. your. body. You are a skeet catcher, more than likely, a booty call vampire. I want that for NONE of my sisters, b/c every woman, regardless of her past, is worth more than that. But hey, it's a woman's personal choice...I'm not mad at her.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "If you are a woman who is having sex with multiple men or women. you. do. not. give. not. one. damn. about. your. body" Maybe you should think about WHY you feel that way. Why does having sex with multiple [artners indicate that someone doesn't respect themselves? If they're seeking out the sex life they want, how does that indicate a lack of respect for one's own body?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Sex involves more than sexual pleasure. I will give you two points.
Part one. Sex is pleasurable to most, and it is meant to be. You may not want children or be able to become pregnant, or you may want children one day but currently are choosing methods of contraception, but in principal, the sexual union between a man and women is brings forth reproduction of our children who were not meant to be raised only by their mothers. If you are actively taking part in...continue.
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ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "Sex involves more than sexual pleasure" It certainly can. Then again, it also doesn't has to. Why do children matter "in principle" if children are never going to happen? You're basically judging strangers for their sex lives based on a criteria that doesn't have to apply to them.
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ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie My question is, if it only applies in "principle," then how is that really relevant? If a woman makes up her mind that she's not going to have any kids, then she doesn't have to have any kids. So in that case, it doesn't matter how many men she has sex with. So why does the "principle" matter if she is, in reality, not having any children? Who is being victimized?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
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Unless you are an alien female and an alien male who can have sex like humans, but only reproduces by way of swapping goo only found at the leader of all aliens spaceship headquarters, than yes a criteria does apply to you if you are having sex. In principal...IN PRINCIPAL, sex is the taking on of the responsibility of becoming a parent. Put some thought behind your actions, besides, oh this just feels good and I'm enjoying myself.
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ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
cont. and I say this humbly....I never said I was better than someone who could be described as a "slut" by dictionary terminology. I'd rather look at other's as being better than myself. And yes, my comment most certainly was a judgment on behavior. We all mess up but let's be honest and not lie to ourselves. Pls drop the, "you're judging folks" business. I don't apologize for my comments and not everyone is going to agree w/ me...I undertand that and It's perfectly ok.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie ."I never said I was better than someone who could be described as a "slut" by dictionary terminology." you kind of did when you said they were unworthy or respect and borderline unworthy of protection. You certainly are judging people. I'm not against all judgment, but I really don't see the sense in passing judgment regarding personal choices that effect no one else. It's just a way to appear morally superior while (ironically) putting others down for no good reason.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Yes, like I said, I did give a judgment on behavior. I laid down a set of values that I believe are general and should be applied to all, including myself. If I say people shouldn't rape, am I judging people who rape? No. But I have no problem judging ppl who rape.
Our choices effects everyone. My main focus is on how our sexual choices has the potential to reflect on the outcomes of your sexual choices...our kids. Children are the future and our future effects everyone.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie As I said, I'm not against all judgment. It makes sense to judge someone if their behavior actually infringes upon someone else's rights. Like rapists. It doesn't make that much sense to judge or degrade people for personal practices that do not infringe upon anyone else, like their sex lives. What their doing doesn't harm you, yet you choose to harm them. And then claim it's in the name of morality.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "My main focus is on how our sexual choices has the potential to reflect on the outcomes of your sexual choices...our kids." It's obviously not about that, since you judge all people (or perhaps just women) for their sexual behavior whether they have kids or not.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
That is because of the principal of sex. Every can have sex, so yes, I judge all people who have sex. You don't have to have kids...I've already addressed that. Please read carefully. In principal....you know what principal means? In principal, in essence, sex is the only way to produce children. So our sexual behavior should be tailored to what is THE BEST situation we can provide in response to the outcomes of our sexual choices. That's all I'm saying.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Just saying "it's the principle" doesn't explain anything. The principle isn't relevant. If the criticism is that a child could be victimized by being born into a bad situation, then that criticism no longer holds up if the woman just makes sure that there is no child born into a bad situation. If one isn't going to have children, it doesn't make sense to base your sex life around children.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
A woman may not be able to bare children and the principal still applies. No children need be involved for the essences of the principal to stand correct. A lot of women "tried" to make sure no children are born and they failed. No woman wants a bastard child. It makes every bit of sense to base the activity you do WITH YOUR REPRODUCTION ORGANS AROUND REPRODUCTION. Not mad...just emphasizing. It's like saying, I don't think what you cook should be based on cook utilities.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "A woman may not be able to bare children and the principal still applies" And it is still completely irrelevant. And it is still just as ridiculous to navigate your sex life around having children when you are not going to have children. There's a surefire way to make sure a child isn't born. Abortion. It need never be left to chance."No woman wants a bastard child." Obviously plenty do, given the business of sperm banks and what not. Not everyone cares about the "bastard" concept
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I've already said that yes, I'm judging behavior. Why you are so caught up on someone judging you is beyond me. Is it b/c you feel convicted w/in yourself?? I don't know you in particular or what you do, so how can I be judging YOU?? Sweetie, Do you. I'm openly sharing how I feel about sexuality and human behavior, not how I feel about YOUR character or other person's characters. I can say I feel an action is wrong but what has that got to do with you personally?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie "Why you are so caught up on someone judging you is beyond me." Because judging and degrading others for ridiculous reasons causes societal problems. Tolerance is a virtue, and one that benefits society more than arbitrary rules about what consenting adults do in privacy. I am using "you" the general sense, not accusing you of judging me specifically.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Someone spammed you..I don't know why, but I hit the "not spam" button, because I don't see anything wrong with what you said. Maybe someone is trying to start beef and get things hype. Be on guard....just saying girl.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie "but I hit the "not spam" button, because I don't see anything wrong with what you said. " Thank you.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
"I am using "you" the general sense, not accusing you of judging me specifically"
I'm not sure why my judging anyone's behavior is wrong. Don't tell me what you "feel" like I'm doing, come at me with what I said. You may feel like I'm judging others....again, I'm judging behavior. I have not laid any verdict to a slut or a slut's character. A slut is not a nice term, but that's because the action of a slut isn't so nice. Slut is a functional word and I'm judging the action
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie When you say that a certain type of person is less worthy or respect and protection, you can't then say that you are only judging the behavior and not the person. Saying someone is less worthy of respect is a very personal assault on them, not just a criticism of behavior. "but that's because the action of a slut isn't so nice." Based on what, if it harms no one? Let's not pretend "slut" isn't a derogatory word.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I'm not better than anyone before the eyes of the God I serve. That is the context of my comment. I'm not better than a rapist either, but I do personally feel that a rapist is unworthy of my respect, especially one that is not sorry of his actions.
If a woman, may think being a "slut" is perfectly fine, but if she is not going to carry herself in a way the world sees as respectful, why on earth would expect the world to respect her or protect her virtue as woman??
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "I'm not better than anyone before the eyes of the God I serve" Just more worthy of respect and protection than those sluts? Those are rather contradictory statements. "but if she is not going to carry herself in a way the world sees as respectful, why on earth would expect the world to respect her or protect her virtue as woman?" So basically, when someone's beliefs don't conform to a societal standard, they are less worthy of protection?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "I'm not better than anyone before the eyes of the God I serve" Just more worthy of respect and protection than those sluts? Those are rather contradictory statements. "but if she is not going to carry herself in a way the world sees as respectful, why on earth would expect the world to respect her or protect her virtue as woman?" So basically, when someone's beliefs don't conform to a societal standard, they are less worthy of protection?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
"when someone's beliefs don't conform to a societal standard, they are less worthy of protection?"
When I speak of protection, I'm not speaking of laws...I'm speaking of social protection that steams out of social respect. In other words, if I am not a "lady", but a "slut", I should not expect the respect a lady receives. When our beliefs don't conform to societal standards on how we should respectfully behave we SHOULD NOT EXPECT SOCIAL RESPECT...not mad just emphasizing.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "When our beliefs don't conform to societal standards on how we should respectfully behave we SHOULD NOT EXPECT SOCIAL RESPECT." Where does this leave room for consideration of the possibility that society may be wrong? That it may be best for society to adjust what may be unreasonable or unfair standards? Where does this leave room for a value of tolerance that can allow us to live in peace with others despite differences?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one. And it makes sense for society to look down on certain types of behavior, b/c in the end it hurts all of us over time. Why is it unreasonable to stick to one person? Biologically, children are not reared in months...it takes years. So why would it not make sense for humans to have one sexual partner and stick to them the best they can? Even animals who rear their young for years stick w/ one sexual partner for life.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one. And it makes sense for society to look down on certain types of behavior, b/c in the end it hurts all of us over time. Why is it unreasonable to stick to one person? Biologically, children are not reared in months...it takes years. So why would it not make sense for humans to have one sexual partner and stick to them the best they can? Even animals who rear their young for years stick w/ one sexual partner for life.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one." That's not a valid argument. In fact, it's a well known logical fallacy called the ad populum fallacy. The popularity of an idea does not prove it's validity. Experience suggests it is not reasonable to expect people to mate for life. Most people don't succeed at that. Some would say our biology suggests that we are only meant to mate with someone for the first few years of a child's life.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
""Chances are, society has made a just judgment on this one." That's not a valid argument."
That is side commentary and is not my argument. Did you not read the rest of my comment? Biologically, I think humans have it right.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
No biological or sociological concept supports broken homes. Why is it unreasonable for a woman to not mate with multiple men...ten, twenty men whom she is not married to when I see so many women having no more than two or three sexual partners because they have made up their minds that they are not going to sleep around?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "No biological or sociological concept supports broken homes" Nature is cruel. Nature doesn't necessarily support what's convenient for a modern society. What's natural isn't necessarily what's right. I don't think nature cares about your home life as much as you think. It's not unreasonable for a woman to have few sex partners. But why is it unreasonable for her not to?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Nature is cruel. It's particularly cruel when ppl are sexually promiscuous. Shouldn't ppl do what is ultimately more advantageous? Two parents raising a kid is more optimum and advantageous than just one. Would it not follow that females should have commitment THEN sex, where a man is less likely to hit the road once he finds out she's due?
Also, the emotional response and attachment to our sex partners in the release of endorphins after sex. What purpose does that serve?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "Two parents raising a kid is more optimum and advantageous than just one." That's true. But it doesn't necessarily have to be a biological father for there to be two or more people involved in raising a child. In matrilneal societies paternity often doesn't matter, since the women's family is involved in raising her children anyway. They don't tend to care so much about promiscuity. There's an example of a system that works just as well, if not better.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie "Two parents raising a kid is more optimum and advantageous than just one." That's true. But it doesn't necessarily have to be a biological father for there to be two or more people involved in raising a child. In matrilneal societies paternity often doesn't matter, since the women's family is involved in raising her children anyway. They don't tend to care so much about promiscuity. There's an example of a system that works just as well, if not better.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
From the reference point of an Black American woman, I've seen too much as far as jacked up children who are bastards and are struggling w/ their emotional and mental health, trying to gain normalcy all b/c of their mother's sexual choices. I'm tired of seeing my sisters as single mothers, sexing men who don't give not one damn about them. TIRED. Enough. Respect yourself and don't let these bums who won't marry you go up inside you and break you down like a shot gun.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie According to this rant then, you should have no problem with a woman who has as much sex as she wants and never has children. But that's not the case, now is it? And why is it only the woman's sexual choices? Didn't it take a man making some choices to lead to that situation as well?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
"According to this rant then, you should have no problem with a woman who has as much sex as she wants and never has children."
What rant?? That woman is still reckless... even if she is barren. Your statement just as much sense as saying that you should have no problem with a person who drinks and drives but never gets into a car reck. Both behaviors are irresponsible.
My comments mentioned males. If I wanted to talk more about men I would. I'm addressing us females.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "That woman is still reckless even if she is barren" How so? In order for something to be reckless, there has to be some sort of potential negative consequence, right? It's not comparable to drunk driving if the risk is removed (i.e. impossible for her to get pregnant). It's more like drinking when you know you're going to be taking a cab home anyway." If I wanted to talk more about men I would. I'm addressing us females. " Yes, and I think the focus on females is revealing.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
She is reckless w/ the principal of the female body. She is detrimental to herself, not just to offspring she will never have. There is more than one benefit to not sleeping around. You are a "slut" chances are you are also sleeping with other men who care just as much as you do about their bodies, or worse, care less as much. You create a greater potential to catch disease from where they've been....which is w/ other reckless women. You asked for my opinion and I gave it.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie This whole "doesn't care about their bodies" doesn't seem supported by anything but a vague religious concept. I'm sure there are people in the world who would say you are a wonton slut who shows no respect for her body because you're not, say, wearing a burka or a headscarf. Wouldn't you say they're just projecting their own belief system onto you? How is that different?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I come from a secular view point, not a religious one. That is my personal opinion that a sexual promiscuous person doesn't care about their bodies. Burkas and head scarfs have little to no value in western culture. Let me ask you...why is it that women who are not "sluts" tend to have a healthy emotional state of mind? Why is it that most females that are troubled exhibit "slut" behavior? Think about it.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Perhaps I should have called it a vague spiritual concept. "Burkas and head scarfs have little to no value in western culture." Of course. That's my point, all of this stuff is just arbitrary cultural BS. It only matters if you buy into it. It's not some objective truth. "why is it that women who are not "sluts" tend to have a healthy emotional state of mind? Why is it that most females that are troubled exhibit "slut" behavior?" I don't think that's true at all.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
"Young but troubled girls living in poor neighbourhoods tend to become promiscuous, engaging in sex with older boys, according to a study. “Young girls… in disadvantaged neighbourhoods are more likely to initiate sex… especially those young women with conduct problems,” said co-author Véronique Dupéré, post-doctoral fellow at Tufts University, who completed the research at Université de Montréal."
Is it really that far fetched?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie First of all "according to a study" is not exactly persuasive. Secondly, I have a problem with comparing children to adults. I agree that kids who have less going on in their lives might be more quick to start having sex. But it doesn't follow that any adult woman who decides to "play the field" is disfunctional.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I see it nearly almost everyday. A teen girl or a woman is admitted on my unit in the hospital for major deep depression and every single one of the girls are with several boys or nearly grown men, not because of some power they have, but because they hurt. Cutting, drugs, alcohol and being promiscuous is how they elevate their pain. Healthy girls don't engage in these activities to the point they are cutters, addicts, alcoholics or "sluts".
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie So it's your job to deal with people in crisis, yes? Of course that's going to give you that perspective. After all, you're not going to see all the women who have multiple partners and aren't in crisis, are you? They would have no reason to go to you. I believe that's called confirmation bias.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
But you know what is interesting? These women and young girls that I see and have even had very personal conversations with, don't want to be promiscuous any more. They see that their behavior of cutting, drinking, or doing drugs, disobeying their parents, or not being good parents is a manifestation of their way of self-medicating their pain.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Again- of course the people who are coming to you want to change their lives. If they were happy with their lives and didn't want to change things, they wouldn't be there. It may be quite possible that promiscuity is not a positive thing for those particular people. But that doesn't mean that's the case for everyone. Because after all, your job wouldn't put you in contact with people who are promiscuous and healthy and happy.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Why can't a person be unhappy, unhealthy and not promiscuous?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie "Why can't a person be unhappy, unhealthy and not promiscuous?" No one said they could not.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Research has found "a dramatic relationship" between sexual activity among adolescents and "multiple indicators of adolescent mental health. Compared to abstainers, membership in any of the risk clusters was associated with increased odds of depression, serious thoughts about suicide, and suicide attempts."[63]
-Adolescent Depression and Suicide Risk: Association with Sex and Drug Behavior". American Journal of Preventive Medicine
wikipedia
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ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Again- why does all your info have to do with sex and children? Do you have any info relating to adults? Do you believe sex is the same for children as it is for adults?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
The adults are just as mess up. They are usually the ones who graduated from the kids unit.
"As [Ross Douthat] summarized, the study found that "the happiest women were those with a current sexual partner and only one or two partners in their lifetime." He also noted that a "young woman’s likelihood of depression rose steadily as her number of partners climbed and the present stability of her sex life diminished." cont.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
"An Empirical Study," found that "the happiness-maximizing number of sexual partners in the previous year is 1." In other words: The happiest people -- men and women -- were those who had only slept with one person in the past 12 months. But he adds, "A lot of people might guess this without looking at our kinds of statistical equations. - his 2004 paper, "Money, Sex and Happiness
but he does not conclude that promiscuity is the 'cause' of unhappiness.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I think our dress makes us more of a target psychologically to an attacker. Women who are in certain circumstances and dressed in a "slutty" way ironically appeal to an attackers mentality to easily disassociate you from reality. In his mind you are not an average, everyday, normal looking woman who probably has kids; you are the nameless porn actress at his disposal who he no longer gets a thrill off of on the internet, and seeks to thrill himself w/ in person. You agree?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie I do not agree. this is nothing more than pondering what might be going through the mind of a rapist. I don't think men see women different because they dress slutty. Those men have issues towards women in general. The truth is, we're more likely to be attacked by someone we know and trust when the opportunity arises, not by a stranger who sees us walking down the street in a mini skirt.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Doctor of adolescent medicine Meg Meeker writes, “Teenage sexual activity routinely leads to emotional turmoil and psychological distress. [Sexual permissiveness leads] to empty relationships, to feelings of self-contempt and worthlessness. All, of course, precursors to depression.”
- Meeker, Epidemic: How Teen Sex Is Killing Our Kids, p. 64;
-wikipedia
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
"Experts recommend that sexually active adolescents be screened for depression and be "provided with anticipatory guidance about the mental health risks of these behaviors."[61][63] Professors at the University of California recommend that parents and health professionals help teens prepare for and cope with the emotions attached to sex."
-Denise D. Hallfors PhD, Martha W. Waller PhD, Daniel Bauer PhD, Carol A. Ford MD, and Carolyn T. Halpern PhD (2005)
-wikipedia
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Again, I am not presenting a perspective is religious. I'm not saying that if a woman doesn't read the Quran or the Bible she is a slut. Sex is universal and every has sex. That how does two things are different. Why do you feel as though someone is projecting their beliefs system onto anyone? If I said that I believe that everyone should get high on a blunt once a day....you may disagree, but I highly doubt that you would feel that I'm projecting anything on you.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "I'm not saying that if a woman doesn't read the Quran or the Bible she is a slut. " No, but someone else would. I don't know why I should give your particular slut shaming views more consideration than theirs. You are projecting your beliefs, you've admitted it's your belief. It's not backed up by hard facts. It can only be a belief. There's no logical reason for people to accept someone else's beliefs, so it;s ridiculous to expect them to.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Why is having a belief synonymous with projecting a belifes on others? To me, that means to force your beliefs on others. I didn't say that I expect ppl to accept my beliefs. I'm just giving my opinion of what I believe.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Someone who believes going out without a headscarf is shameful would look at you and conclude that you have no respect for yourself (assuming you do not wear a headscarf, of course). The logic being 1) it is shameful to be without a headscarf so 2) someone who doesn't wear one must not care enough about themselves to protect themselves from that shame. Of course, it only makes sense because they accept #1 as a given.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Head scarfs and Burkas are of a religious doctrine. Why do you feel the need to bring up religion?
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Why does it matter if the belief is religious or not? You have your beliefs regarding sex and honoring one's body, other people have theirs. Whether it classifies as religious doctrine or not is irrelevant.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I think it's ridiculous to take away someone's freedom of speech just because you disagree with what they are saying...I also think it's ridiculous to conclude that just because someone given their opinion that they think a certain behavior is wrong that you would jump to the conclusion that they are judging "people" instead of "behavior" when they have not mentioned character.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "I think it's ridiculous to take away someone's freedom of speech..."No one is calling for censorship. You are free to say whatever you want, and others are free to critique it. Free speech is a two way street. You can't say someone is "less worthy of respect" and then try to pretend that it's not personal and only about the behavior. Declaring a person to be less worthy of respect is very personal and beyond a mere criticism of a behavior.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie "I think it's ridiculous to take away someone's freedom of speech..."No one is calling for censorship. You are free to say whatever you want, and others are free to critique it. Free speech is a two way street. You can't say someone is "less worthy of respect" and then try to pretend that it's not personal and only about the behavior. Declaring a person to be less worthy of respect is very personal and beyond a mere criticism of a behavior.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie As for disease, it's true the risk is increased, but it's still very minimal if the proper precautions are taken. We all play more fast and loose with our health everyday when we eat unhealthy food or even get in a car. I don't see why we should judge people so harshly for the minimal risks they accept in having protected sex.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I wouldn't exactly compare sticking a spoonful of sugar in my mouth to sticking something infected with HIV in my mouth or any other opening to my body. What precautions? Condoms? As far as keeping bay all the diseases and infections floating around, condoms are kind of a joke. What does the back of the condom say about STDs? I'm speaking of actions here...so why should I not be direct about the behavior I see that is damaging to women, men and particularly children??
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Okayyy... I don't think anyone else would make that comparison either. Not sure what you're trying to say there. Condoms are a joke? I think all evidence suggests they do an extremely good job. Since condom usage was enforced in Nevada brothels there hasn't been one incident of HIV transmission. In decades. Yes, there are still risks involved in sex. As in most things in life. The risks involved in protected sex being relatively small.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Globally speaking, I don't think condoms are the best way to promote not spreading stds. Condoms in your third world countries are often poorly manufactured. They are kept in the heat and by time people get to them....it's not that they are not being used right, the condoms are just poorly made and stored. But I digress....
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "Condoms in your third world countries are often poorly manufactured." The obvious answer seems to be that we need to make sure people have access to quality condoms, not to scrap the idea of condoms entirely.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Condoms may help but they don't seem like the best way to prevent STDs. It's like driving with partial vision instead of full vision. I think the best way is to get tested, you and your partner/s and stick only to each other.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie I wouldn't advise people that being in a monogamous relationship is preferable to using condoms. Lots of people have gotten STD's because they trusted their partner when they should have still been using condoms. Besides, the evidence suggests condoms do a very good job at preventing STDs.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
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@MissTemperence
"Lots of people have gotten STD's because they trusted their partner when they should have still been using condoms."
Well, someone in that relationship wasn't be monogamous. Condoms definitely help but I'm telling you...they don't protect against all STDs. Condoms only cover the penis. you can still get STDs from skin to skin contact
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Not to mention, there's also plenty of sex acts people can engage in that have zero chance of resulting in pregnancy. Of course, being labeled a slut often doesn't have anything to do with someone's actual sex life. "Slut" is pretty much used to describe any overt sexuality in a woman. It could just be the way she dresses, or flirts. So disease and pregnancy really has even less to do with it.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I'm not talking about the slang def. of slut. Sex does not have to result in pregnancy for principals to be lowered. A woman who has a high self esteem...chances are she is not sleeping w/ multiple men. She sees value in herself that cause her not to be a "slut". The opposite tends to be true for an emotional disturbed person. If you want to ask why, the statistics so severely point that to be a the case fine. I don't see any need to dispute what has been frequently found.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "A woman who has a high self esteem...chances are she is not sleeping w/ multiple men. She sees value in herself that cause her not to be a "slut"." This is nothing but more empty assertions. It does nothing to further your argument. Show me these statistics.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Show you the statistics? How long have you been living??
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
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@ladyEulaelie "Show you the statistics? How long have you been living?? " Studies should be looked at on an individual basis. If these statistics are so abundant then my request for you to show them to me should be very easy to fulfill.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I'm not putting anyone down. I told you I see everyone better than myself. I'm encouraging my sisters to stand up and do what is honorable to them. Stop sleeping w/ E to the Eddie Freddie who only comes around to pick you up after dark for a booty when his tank is on empty so you can fill it up and he can have a night w/ a happy ending and be F to the Freddie w/ a full tank of gas. It would feel good to do lots of things, but "feeling good" is not always a legit reason.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie Yes, you are. When you say someone is "less worthy of respect and borderline less worthy of protection" you are indeed putting those people down. To then suggest you are not is just empty double speak. What if that woman is happy with her sex life and is taking precautions? Why should she care if you think she's degrading herself, based on your own personal beliefs that she doesn't share?
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
part two.
...the mode of reproduction of our future generation, even if you don't want to become a mother every time you have sex, it is our duty to provide the best environment for our offspring, and that is not a single parent house hold. Broken children are usually born from broken mothers who where overcome by their sex drive rather than their smarts. I tired of seeing the pain from the child born from those situations.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
part two.
...the mode of reproduction of our future generation, even if you don't want to become a mother every time you have sex, it is our duty to provide the best environment for our offspring, and that is not a single parent house hold. Broken children are usually born from broken mothers who where overcome by their sex drive rather than their smarts. I tired of seeing the pain from the child born from those situations.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
My second point.
IMPO, sex is to be enjoyed between two ppl who love each other. Even if they don't want kids, if the woman gets pregnant, at least the child will have a greater potential to be raised in a happy, ordered home with a mother and father. This is the best situation, not a fly by night, let me prove how strong and independent I am, situation. Your pride and joy shouldn't be spawned by way of booty call. That is ridiculous. I've seen it too many times.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
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@MissTemperence
My second point.
IMPO, sex is to be enjoyed between two ppl who love each other. Even if they don't want kids, if the woman gets pregnant, at least the child will have a greater potential to be raised in a happy, ordered home with a mother and father. This is the best situation, not a fly by night, let me prove how strong and independent I am, situation. Your pride and joy shouldn't be spawned by way of booty call. That is ridiculous. I've seen it too many times.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
My second point.
IMPO, sex is to be enjoyed between two ppl who love each other. Even if they don't want kids, if the woman gets pregnant, at least the child will have a greater potential to be raised in a happy, ordered home with a mother and father. This is the best situation, not a fly by night, let me prove how strong and independent I am, situation. Your pride and joy shouldn't be spawned by way of booty call. That is ridiculous. I've seen it too many times.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I know you see it differently, but to me, sex is a giving away of yourself away, particularly if it'syour virginity. If a man is going to have sex w/ me, he has to want ALL of me...not pieces of me...a pieces of my breast or another body part, or personality. If he doesn't find me worthy to marry, why should I give him something he is not really asking for by sexing him? I'm not giving something I esteem of worth, away for an O. That's like giving something away for nothing.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I know you may disagree but to me, sex is a giving away of yourself, esp. if it's your virginity. He could be everything I've always desired, but if a he wants to have sex w/ me, he has to want ALL of me...not a piece of breast, thigh, or personality. Until he commits to me, I'm not giving him what he is NOT asking for. I'm not giving away something I esteem for an O. That's like giving away something special for something common,. That's giving away something for nothing.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie That's fine for you to decide that's what sex is for you. It's fine for you to feel that way. It's not so reasonable to project that onto other people and then judge them for it, since it's really a very personal choice that needn't effect anyone else. Virginity isn't really anything, it's just a lack of something (sexual experience). The idea that a woman gives herself away when she has sex seems very patriarchal.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
Why is it patriarchal to say that a woman gives herself away when she has sex? A man gives himself away, as well, when he has sex.
It's not virtuous to withhold sex or for one to keep their virginity for a noble purpose. I get that. I won't speculate why you feel that way. A woman may be loose in every direction, It's never too late for her to start respecting herself. Once a slut is not always a slut. I wish you would address my original comment about the video.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
@ladyEulaelie "Why is it patriarchal to say that a woman gives herself away when she has sex?" I don't see how you actually "give yourself away" by having sex. You can never truly give yourself away, you always have yourself. I think the idea stems from the patriarchal idea that a woman's worth was based on her chastity. She is "giving herself away" in the sense that she is worth less to a potential male partner who would want her exclusively to himself.
MissTemperence 5 months ago
@MissTemperence
I'm not asexual, but I'm not a tramp, hoe or slut. We need to regain our sexual power back. w/ it carries high responsibility + temperance and no, I'm not talking about skeet catching devices. Where is the dignity in promoting slut-hood? Men like sluts...alot, but they don't respect sluts. Want respect? Be a women who is worthy of the respect and honor thats due protection. Forget this promotion of slut-hood, I'm trash but don't step on me mentality b/c it's backwards.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
It's fun to walk like that in a crowd at 2:00pm in the bright day in open area none of them will walk around 2:00am at night in the park dress like that! It's wrong that men attack women just like it's wrong that people steal cars but we shouldn't have a day when we "drive our cars leave the key in it and open door in front of a high school day"
dmastor 5 months ago
ladies please take note: if you have a shirt that people see through, or a skirt so short half your butt is hanging out, or other items of clothing that can be seen as slutty. if a man sees you he is not thinking " she looks like a nice girl". what he is really thinking is "how can i bone her tonight". so think before you dress.
tejasbuck2 6 months ago
The body is a piece of art, and like a piece of art in an art gallery, nobody has the right to touch it unless you say "yes". Blame the criminals, not the "sluts"!
tofuaddict1 6 months ago
these women are stupid. If you go out and dress like a slut and walk around a dark ally you are asking for trouble more than if you are prudishly dressed. Your stupid walk wont change the fact the cop was dead right on what he said.
TheCardiak 6 months ago
@TheCardiak Really? You think if there's a rapists lurking in the bushes for a victim, he's going to let all the modestly dressed women pass and hold out till he finds someone who's outfit he prefers?
MissTemperence 6 months ago
@MissTemperence Actually, yes, women are alot less likely to get raped when they don't dress up like whores and flirt with anyone in order to get free drinks. The police officer was 100% correct, but just didn't use the proper words.
mimer101 6 months ago
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@mimer101 Show me some evidence to back up your assertion, or it's useless.
MissTemperence 6 months ago
@MissTemperence
Why can't you see a balance in things? No woman deserves to be raped, even if she has managed to remove all her clothing at a block party, but if a woman is aware that in public forum exist both heros and perverts, she would be using common sense to cover up and not turn herself into a rape target. I can't believe there's an actual "walk" to be careless, mindless and less protective of our precious bodies. Women are much more protective over things of less worth and value.
ladyEulaelie 5 months ago
How do you know your empire is dying? "You have Gay Marches, Slut marches, And lot of entertainment News.
YouTheory 7 months ago
Very few of these women have anything to worry about. Seriously. They're gross.
tpowell453 7 months ago
If I see a modestly dressed women I would be modest towards her, if she went out of her way to cover her beauty I would respect that and love it. But if she's dressed like a slut, I wouldn't give a Sam about HER and my animal instinct will kick in and I would just state at her parts. This is the reality. Slut=1 night. Modest= for ever
hudfadz 9 months ago
It's not a question if these women should not dress like this to avoid rape, the question is when women dress like this do they get the respect of men more or less then a modestly dressed women? Hell no! You dress like a slut you get treated like a slut, it's human nature. Who would marry any of these scrags geez
hudfadz 9 months ago
Ok to the doofuses talking about how "wrong" women are to dress that way and how it encourages rape you have no idea what your talking about. For one blaime the criminal not the victim. For another your thinking like a healthy rational person with a healthy natural sexual appetite. Thats a very good thing (beter then thinking like a rapist) but rapists are not healthy people with normal appetites if they were they wouldn't be rapists duh.
kmeares1 9 months ago
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kmeares1 9 months ago
To all sluts who thinks they a doing a wonderful acts and very proud of it , to me you are having a very low moral and a shameless creature. If things went wrong dont cry as a wolf cry. Idiots!
What the police comments is for you sluts safety.
cherankhumar 9 months ago
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mikeborja1 9 months ago
But we in it shall be remembered- We few, we happy few, we band of sluts; For she to-day that sheds her clothes with me Shall be my slut sister; be she ne'er so vile,
JohnnyTRex99 9 months ago
@JohnnyTRex99 - I absolutely LOVE your comment...so funny! "And ladies in the states, now a-bed,
shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their womanhood cheap whilst any speaks
that undressed with us upon the first Slut Walk day."
mkrassoc 9 months ago
.....swallowin ass tramps too!!!
chrondick 10 months ago