@CHELL9001 No, I don't think so. I do think atonality (or atonal elements) can broaden the way of expression but atonality alone seems to me an insufficient way of expression.
@bayreuth79 i dont understand how atonality can be a contradiction of terms, surely it is more of an absolution, atonality is 'total dissonance', which is a real contradiction because without consonance theres no dissonance, like yin and yang. it's like language. from the point of tonality, its just organised jiberish but atonality is a different language with new grammar and syntax. organized chaos doesnt really apply. maybe you just dont understand it... sorry to sound like a judgemental whore
This is not just a pianist, she doesnt just play it. She uses it for whatever means she wants, for whatever she wants to convey. This is truly a master.
Why would anyone want to learn it? There is no such thing as atonal music- it is a contradiction in terms. Without a tonal context- even if the tonal music is pushed to its limit as with Wagner's Tristan- there is nothing but dissonance and sheer dissonance is a kind of organized chaos.
Western tonality wasn't codified until the Baroque era—so is everything before that not music? Come to think of it, are blues, raga, and gamelan not music either?
"there is nothing but dissonance and sheer dissonance is a kind of organized chaos."
Call is music, call it noise, it doesn't matter: that sounds pretty goddamn exciting if you ask me.
@TheRealLo Music previous to the baroque period was still basically in a tonal context. Medieval music, for instance, which is my specialism at university, was clearly tonal. The atonal music of Schoenberg and Webern is something new in terms of musical history; and if you don't recognize that then I'm afraid you are ignorant of musical history.
In terms of sound- what distinguishes some of Schoenberg's piano pieces from someone banging on a piano randomly? Remember I said, in terms of sound.
As much as I love Schoenberg and know better than to ask this but: whenever someone talks about screwing up wildly atonal music I just always think " Awww, no one can tell anyway."
:D Some people can't even tell if you mess up a tonal piece, most don't even notice off-key singing... So what? Some people are far-sighted, does that stultify the details in visual art?
There are always intricacies which can ruin a performance when they are neglected, but can only enrich it very subtly when played well. To the trained attentive ear every sound adds to the listening experience and those who listen to the music passively like it's a blurry mash of sounds don't matter
@utubuser10 Her carisma, her elegance, confident....the passion and tenderness...there are many reasons for finding her sexy and falling in love with her
Paying the row by itself is a rather "old school" gesture for serial composers. The row is a source of harmonic entities that will appear during the aggregate suggestion of the music itself. It means no more than a minor scale played before the G-minor symphony.
During composition of this symphony, Schoenberg's student, George Tremblay, encounaged the maestro to re-introduce the octave and (0,3,7) trichord into motivic positions that made the concerto more distinctive.
Again and again how marvelous is Uchida Mitsuko. This piece is a master class on composition, and what master class! I would have liked it to be a full day on the web!!!!
But what surprises and amazes me most viewing the various postings in Youtube is her passion and energy. So communicative. How happy does she look, and passionate!
I love her expression at 5:40 when she plays the original and inverted tone rows together... It's like, "I'm showing off, haha" :-)
seriously, that is pretty hard to do, play two tone rows together like that at that speed without errors. (at least...i don't think there were errors...)
From this musical didactic it is clear that our man was not kidding when he thteatened to
use tone rows. Fortunately used them only in the harmonic/melodic domain, not quite the rhythmic, so this is recognizably Brahmsian, and is quite neat.
@manuelspcool You can search her interview on Youtube. She says that now she's more comfortable with expressing herself in English. And I don't care her residence and her language, whatever it is german or english, you know? All that counts is her music.
@violench yeah youre rigth the residence and the languanje are in other place, Her Art is the important thing = ) and for me She is the most puwerful pianist in the world
@violench oh and a year ago there where a interview in youtube but was erased where She Speaks German like a Real German and says a lot of thing's of the languajes but like you say the very important thing here is the art
She really convinced me that Schoenberg is just BEAUTIFUL. Beautiful, with no catch. It's not about being dissonant on purpose, as she shows that the third is also a very important interval in the work.
I fell in love with her while watching her saying "do you know what it takes? just take guts to do it...just takes guts to say...well too bad, hop it goes..."
I heard about a pianist who was going around the US faking Schoenberg's piano pieces & it took 3 years before anyone figured it out. I guess you could call this DodecaPHONY music.
Mitsuko Uchida is amazing!! She's soooo passionate! I have been blessed to see her live at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, and her stage presence is a welcome addition to her astounding gift! I've seen other famous virtuoso pianists, but she, by far, stands out amongst the crowd! And not only did I see her in concert, but I met her afterwards. She is genuine and truly interested in those with whom she meets. I have many of her cd's/dvd's; her interpretation makes the music come alive!!!!!!!!
The knowledge and insight on display in this clip shows me the difference between a musician who is merely technically good and a musician who also understands the music. Ms. Uchida is a shining example of the latter.
"Oh My God! The guy was mad!" Great first impression of Schoenberg's but so true...Schoenberg's must grow on you! As a pianist myself, my goal is to reach the quality level of Mitsuki Uchida...she is amazing! So much enjoyable to hear speaking of music and, most important, playing it! Indeed a true musician! Brava!
Lol sorry lionsome..I think you took my comment the wrong way. I didn't mean anything like that :) I just said it because she did remind me of my aunt, in the sense that she looks "comforting" and familiar to me
my newphew chris, was mashing down on a half assed casio ctk, i listened to it, really payed attention to it, it sounded like mush at first, but with effort and some dedication, i FOUND a way to percieve it so it can be some what enjoyable.
the moral of the story, taste in music is not a matter of what you like and dislike, it's what you understand and what you don't understand.
I think I might be falling in love with this women. Also, I love the way her accent is a mixture of Japanese and German (with a bit of English: "soooo" "knoooow") What a gal!
For amateur pianists such as myself, her discussion of performance and what it takes to play concertos just makes you want to play the piano even more.
Her passion for this piece is infectious. I can listen to and enjoy atonal music up to a point, but hearing her talk about it and break it down makes it more interesting.
Also agree that her Mozart readings are outstanding. Also, check out her Schubert recordings. Not sure if there are any here on YT, but her CDs of his Impromptus and Sonatas are excellent.
i like her face when she speaks in front of the camera than she plays the piano, but don't get me wrong, i also like her especially when she plays Mozart.
atonal music might be brilliantly composed, but it's appreciation is too technical as a result. i'd much rather dwell on music that's pleasing to the ears.
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I couldn't agree more with you jcasbell, except that in my opinion atonal music cannot be 'brilliantly composed' because it isn't music, as any sane person (such as yourself) can recognise!
Of course it is music. This music may be more than 65 years old, but it has lasting lyricism and power and will continue to be played because it is a great work of art. Thank goodness music is so varied that it fills the needs for all kinds of expression. This is brilliantly composed -- no debate about that. Tonality is learned. One can learn to love music that isn't based on modern Western tonality. After all, medieval monks knew modes and not the modern major/minor tonalities.
Agree about the concert, but tonality is not 'learned' as if it is a random system of major/minor scales. It actually has a very deep foundation on intervals, harmonic series resonance, physics. There is nothing 'non-tonal' about medieval monks modes, traditional indian music etc.
Shoenberg has the firmest command of music theory, structure, etc., it is the emotional impact of this piece that really shines through for me. By using 12-tone harmony he is able to change moods on a dime and can express horror and delight in ways tonal music cannot.
This video pro(o)ves that music is indeed a universal language and that all people asserting that "Asians don't know how to play western classical music" are very wrong.Ok,they make faces(so what!!) but they make music as well!every continent has something characteristical,that's all.P.S. (I am not Asian).
The worst: She believes what she talks i think...........What she doesn´t understand as most oriental musicians, is their understanding of occidental music is weak, no matter how much they loved that music.That is one of the principal reasons they have to make faces, acting and all kind of extra musical things to be "expressive", The only exception i know until now is Claire Huangci. Really great, and only 16 yet.
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oH yEAHH?.
Well i have a acquintance who teach at Julliard , who play many years ago in a competence with me. .........I play twice better than him.............he has a PHD .....an he teached at Juilliard ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ His name is Julien Martin. A real teacher disgrace.
You play "twice better"? According to which scale, may I ask? How do you measure that? By the way, I think the real disgrace of a teacher is the one who taught English. Complete failure.
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No asshole. You are completely wrong. I never studied english in my life. Only the 5 years i spent in NY make me speak the few i know about. I I onñy like three language sin the world . Latin Italian and Spanish. . i admire the German as a rational sructure, but not as it sounds. The portoguese sounds to me as a funny Spanish. Is not ugñy , but i don´t take it seriously. The english is just a TOOL. to communicate internationally, and if you don´t bunderstand my bad english it means
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you have a mental dissability. Anyway BTW my english is pretty better than thta i write for two reasons: I type extremely fast (i have not time to review anything i write) .
Second: Becuase i don´t care with a utilitarian language withouth beauty, and with almost not rules about pronunciation, etc. and where are almost not real verbs conjugation. Undretsand? asshole?
Anyway: My English, Spanish, Russian, martian, etc. are not the subjetc.
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Even your un precise language had need of Latin.I don´t waste my time in NY becuase i studied with two teachers who are great pianists and both two speak your language as bad as mine.
Of course Shakespeare.........even in Rusian ( an extremely ugly language you have Fedor Dostoievsky). BUt compare the amount and quality of Italian and Spanish literature.
Concerning Uchida i keep my position:
She is a fine musician. Extremely ugly and with repulsive way of playing the piano.
You don't fool anyone. You couldn't stay in NY because of your mediocrity. Period.
There's nothing "repulsive" in Uchida's playing while there's plenty of repulsive in your childish opinions.
Who's to say a language is "pretty" or "ugly"? You're full of prejudices (and of shit as well). I guess you also believe that Paris is the "city of love" and nonsense like that.
It's clear you have the faintest knowledge about English literature.
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Are you imbecil?
Why you insist in that?
Concerning Paris, i love Paris but not for that ridicoulos idea created for the US people and they typìcall association of stupidities, like the Italians eat pastasciutta every day , and they sing the whole day. That stupid publicity is for people like you...who speak english... :-) but not for me.
If you don´t believe i don´t live in NY , well if you are happy with that.........what can i do?
I was just looking at the list of pianists included in Phillip's great collection Great Pianists of the 20th Century. Brendel, Perahia, Gould, Gulda, they're all in there. Uchida is included too with beautiful recordings of Debussy, Mozart, and Debussy.
However, I can't find anything by lokopiano. Apparently he is too busy looking good and playing weddings and bar mitzvahs to be bothered.
PS. Mi lengua natal es el español. Pero mi inglés es excelente, a diferencia del suyo.
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But thatñs the truth, Most Asisn pianists play like a monkeys. Of course are exceptions . Watch Yuja Wang or Claire huangci. They are sober and with class. That Uchida is a false kind of "crazy musician" ...........she is not crazy and nothing similar , she just has a lot of lack of self control. She looks like a maniac , and with that conductor they make the ideal couple.
Locopiano, Sucking cock is about as personal as one can get, especially if U tell the recipient your name first. So Locopiano do U like Pianissimo or fortissimo or a combo of both? And can you do this while sucking cock? Just bing Aleatoric.
Bahhhh.....Pollini (real great pianist) plays from memory the2nd Boulez piano sonata............................so? wich is the point , if that sonata is a good pice of shit?...
Whether one calls oneself conservative or revolutionary, whether one composes in a conventional or progressive manner, whether one tries to imitate old styles or is destined to express new ideas -- whether one is a good composer or not -- one must be convinced of the infallibility of one's own fantasy and one must believe in one's own inspiration. (Arnold Schoenberg, "Composition with Twelve Tones")
I can no longer add to the Ketchum-Ramatganski-erniesparks substring. So just declare Ramatgansky the winner and go on doing what you separately would do anyway.
Like A. Schoenberg's, B. Bartok's music may also at times (most inconsistently) be very confusing and difficult to immediately relate to emotionally.
I don't yet have enough of Schoenberg's music to "work with", but I did have a personal break-through with that Bartok 1st movement which always "bugged" me.
Sorry, but as long as the discussion is relevant to the video commented upon, I don't see a reason to apply your "lesson", though I accept and understand your position.
I Love her... She is a Treasure. Anything she does is Wonderful.... and her Mozart brings me to tears..... Thanks for Posting this! Charles, in Atlanta, GA
I doubt most cats would go mad over any music, as long as it is fairly uniform. I once had a cat who would run away from hard timpani bangs. My present cat peacefully tolerates whatever I play through speakers, including this. Cats have no concept of humanly conceived music. However, cats will tune in on your reactions to it.
I recommend two books that might interest you. first "Music, the Brain, and Ecstacy" by Robert Jourdain. A phenomenol book dealing with many aspects of music. Also, "The Cult of the Amateur. How today's Internet is Killing our Culture." by Andrew Keen, 2007.
There is a wonderful recording of Uchida and Boulez doing this concerto for those of you who are interested. Included in the liner notes is an analysis written by Uchida herself. This is the cd that got me liking this concerto. BTW, thanks for the clip.
I just love Mitsuko Uchida. She plays wonderfully and it is always very interesting to here her unique Eurasian accent. Shoenberg's concerto is among my favorites, yes, a lot of brain work!
Someone please put forward a reasonable answer.
Is atonality a complete language of expressions?
CHELL9001 5 months ago
@CHELL9001 No, I don't think so. I do think atonality (or atonal elements) can broaden the way of expression but atonality alone seems to me an insufficient way of expression.
videoclog 4 months ago
@bayreuth79 i dont understand how atonality can be a contradiction of terms, surely it is more of an absolution, atonality is 'total dissonance', which is a real contradiction because without consonance theres no dissonance, like yin and yang. it's like language. from the point of tonality, its just organised jiberish but atonality is a different language with new grammar and syntax. organized chaos doesnt really apply. maybe you just dont understand it... sorry to sound like a judgemental whore
woodenspoon324 5 months ago
This is not just a pianist, she doesnt just play it. She uses it for whatever means she wants, for whatever she wants to convey. This is truly a master.
ajayalmighty 6 months ago
Why would anyone want to learn it? There is no such thing as atonal music- it is a contradiction in terms. Without a tonal context- even if the tonal music is pushed to its limit as with Wagner's Tristan- there is nothing but dissonance and sheer dissonance is a kind of organized chaos.
bayreuth79 9 months ago
@bayreuth79
Western tonality wasn't codified until the Baroque era—so is everything before that not music? Come to think of it, are blues, raga, and gamelan not music either?
"there is nothing but dissonance and sheer dissonance is a kind of organized chaos."
Call is music, call it noise, it doesn't matter: that sounds pretty goddamn exciting if you ask me.
TheRealLordRama 8 months ago
@TheRealLo Music previous to the baroque period was still basically in a tonal context. Medieval music, for instance, which is my specialism at university, was clearly tonal. The atonal music of Schoenberg and Webern is something new in terms of musical history; and if you don't recognize that then I'm afraid you are ignorant of musical history.
In terms of sound- what distinguishes some of Schoenberg's piano pieces from someone banging on a piano randomly? Remember I said, in terms of sound.
bayreuth79 7 months ago
@bayreuth79
You're a contradiction in terms lol
whatshendrix 7 months ago
@whatshendrix Explain.
bayreuth79 7 months ago
@bayreuth79
1. Do you never feel emotions which can only be explained with sheer dissonance?
2. Chaos IS order. Research it.
3. How can atonal music be nonexistent if it exists lol
whatshendrix 7 months ago
As much as I love Schoenberg and know better than to ask this but: whenever someone talks about screwing up wildly atonal music I just always think " Awww, no one can tell anyway."
FidelioRoo 10 months ago
@FidelioRoo
:D Some people can't even tell if you mess up a tonal piece, most don't even notice off-key singing... So what? Some people are far-sighted, does that stultify the details in visual art?
There are always intricacies which can ruin a performance when they are neglected, but can only enrich it very subtly when played well. To the trained attentive ear every sound adds to the listening experience and those who listen to the music passively like it's a blurry mash of sounds don't matter
whatshendrix 7 months ago
She looks like a simple, funny, passionate, attaching woman.
musicsavage 10 months ago 2
@utubuser10 Her carisma, her elegance, confident....the passion and tenderness...there are many reasons for finding her sexy and falling in love with her
Discoverybayisgreat 11 months ago 3
People like this... They gotta be like the smartest people in the world.. She sounds like she understands not just music, but life, completely.
CalvinSomething 11 months ago 2
I just love that facial expression at 5:40!!!! It's like, "I'm showing off!!!"
Lawrencelovespiano 1 year ago
She talks like a Schoenberg concerto
12caredee21 1 year ago
I wanna se Her playing Rachmaninov Piano Concerto No.3
and Chopin piano Concerto No.1 there is not any recording of those concertos is so frustrating
manuelspcool 1 year ago
I have never been so enthralled with a person, she is more than fantastic, her knowledge is beyond belief!!
pjjm12 1 year ago 4
What a wonderful person.
aomf58 1 year ago 3
That's "aggregate succession"- the salient sound of serial music (row after tone row in different forms...O, I5, R7, etc). It's a wonderful piece!
hotplate85 1 year ago
Paying the row by itself is a rather "old school" gesture for serial composers. The row is a source of harmonic entities that will appear during the aggregate suggestion of the music itself. It means no more than a minor scale played before the G-minor symphony.
During composition of this symphony, Schoenberg's student, George Tremblay, encounaged the maestro to re-introduce the octave and (0,3,7) trichord into motivic positions that made the concerto more distinctive.
hotplate85 1 year ago
she plays debussy like nobody
yossigolani1 1 year ago
Again and again how marvelous is Uchida Mitsuko. This piece is a master class on composition, and what master class! I would have liked it to be a full day on the web!!!!
But what surprises and amazes me most viewing the various postings in Youtube is her passion and energy. So communicative. How happy does she look, and passionate!
leboutet1 1 year ago 2
I love her expression at 5:40 when she plays the original and inverted tone rows together... It's like, "I'm showing off, haha" :-)
seriously, that is pretty hard to do, play two tone rows together like that at that speed without errors. (at least...i don't think there were errors...)
lflagr 1 year ago
From this musical didactic it is clear that our man was not kidding when he thteatened to
use tone rows. Fortunately used them only in the harmonic/melodic domain, not quite the rhythmic, so this is recognizably Brahmsian, and is quite neat.
fredericfranc 1 year ago
'the limitations of the system' says the interviewer. I don't think the limitations are any greater than any other way of writing muisic.
Uchida's enthusiasm for this piece is infectious, though I admit it's not one of my favourites- i prefer the Violin Concerto.
japanesesweet 1 year ago
I find she is a unique artist, and she plays it so tacfully and beautifully. I'm not trained in music but I think her piano is amazing.
shibadoggie11 1 year ago
@shibadoggie11 Her piano playing definitely is amazing, and those of us pianists who are "trained in music" think so too! :)
lflagr 1 year ago
Schoenberg's piano concerto is... A LOT of brain-work, you see?
mrcactu5 1 year ago
Uchida lived in Wien and then changed her residence to London. That's why she has british accent probably.
violench 1 year ago
@violench SHe Changed her residence for her concerts, Her languaje is the german the english is her third languaje
manuelspcool 1 year ago
@manuelspcool You can search her interview on Youtube. She says that now she's more comfortable with expressing herself in English. And I don't care her residence and her language, whatever it is german or english, you know? All that counts is her music.
violench 1 year ago
@violench yeah youre rigth the residence and the languanje are in other place, Her Art is the important thing = ) and for me She is the most puwerful pianist in the world
manuelspcool 1 year ago
@violench oh and a year ago there where a interview in youtube but was erased where She Speaks German like a Real German and says a lot of thing's of the languajes but like you say the very important thing here is the art
manuelspcool 1 year ago
xD he didnt see it.
princenosiatajansen 1 year ago
piano is kool XD
keyboardmaster82 1 year ago
She really convinced me that Schoenberg is just BEAUTIFUL. Beautiful, with no catch. It's not about being dissonant on purpose, as she shows that the third is also a very important interval in the work.
dga471 2 years ago 8
on a mundane...love the Englishy accent
goroundit123 2 years ago 3
I know a French woman who has the same "Englishy" accent when speaking English. They both must have learned the language in England or from a Brit.
bickymcq 1 year ago
What year was this interview done?
BeaPiano1510 2 years ago
This woman is a genius of music, a prodigy, I love her style and I love the way she thinks of the music she plays. All my respect to her!
andrychan 2 years ago 2
I always love hearing interviews with concert pianists, and seeing them play.
ppmusic06 2 years ago 5
Ah, I want more of this! It's so wonderful to listen to her.
Caramellatta 2 years ago 3
Great to hear her speak!
Ted, couldn't find TK on YouTube. Listening to more Rachmaninoff III today here -- Argerich and Kern are great. Tom (MSO concert goer).
TheAspenTom 2 years ago
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Wow, wow, wow!
rpcjt 2 years ago
I fell in love with her while watching her saying "do you know what it takes? just take guts to do it...just takes guts to say...well too bad, hop it goes..."
brainypug 2 years ago 37
same :D
wbarco 2 years ago
I completley agree!
ppmusic06 2 years ago
that's so amazing when she plays both the original and the retrograde inversion tone rows together at 5:39!
lflagr 2 years ago 3
this was marvelous. thanks for posting.
boojum22 2 years ago 3
She's awesome!!
GracusDO 2 years ago 3
I heard about a pianist who was going around the US faking Schoenberg's piano pieces & it took 3 years before anyone figured it out. I guess you could call this DodecaPHONY music.
tomestubbs 2 years ago
She makes a good comparison at the end about Debussy passively discarding tonality, Schoenberg aggressively.
thereisonlyonething 2 years ago 3
I agree. She's brilliant!
tomestubbs 2 years ago
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Oh yeahhh she is very brilliant , her hair is very grease.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
Cretino.
paideianow 2 years ago
Mitsuko Uchida is amazing!! She's soooo passionate! I have been blessed to see her live at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, and her stage presence is a welcome addition to her astounding gift! I've seen other famous virtuoso pianists, but she, by far, stands out amongst the crowd! And not only did I see her in concert, but I met her afterwards. She is genuine and truly interested in those with whom she meets. I have many of her cd's/dvd's; her interpretation makes the music come alive!!!!!!!!
narrowgate777 2 years ago
She is a wonderful pianist, sensitive to, and understanding of, the music but I have been in love with her speaking voice for so many years!
BackToTheBlues 2 years ago
The knowledge and insight on display in this clip shows me the difference between a musician who is merely technically good and a musician who also understands the music. Ms. Uchida is a shining example of the latter.
lordgort 2 years ago 3
she is so cool, one of the greatest pianists I've heard, and I have heard gould argerich, rubinstein etc.
somedudeplayingpiano 2 years ago 5
6:03 so dramatic
piedijon 2 years ago
"Oh My God! The guy was mad!" Great first impression of Schoenberg's but so true...Schoenberg's must grow on you! As a pianist myself, my goal is to reach the quality level of Mitsuki Uchida...she is amazing! So much enjoyable to hear speaking of music and, most important, playing it! Indeed a true musician! Brava!
Tiagoerg 2 years ago 2
"hop it goes!"
huahuhauhuahuah!!!! Great artist. Really amazing.
fbaraglia 2 years ago
Excellent clip.
murraytaylor123 2 years ago 2
No. Cello.
largemoose 2 years ago
I wonder, did Schoenberg play piano at all?
squandermania 2 years ago
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squandermania 2 years ago
She is so intelligent it is frightening!
maidestone 2 years ago 5
That's fine :)
nzlove 3 years ago
Lol sorry lionsome..I think you took my comment the wrong way. I didn't mean anything like that :) I just said it because she did remind me of my aunt, in the sense that she looks "comforting" and familiar to me
nzlove 3 years ago
これで日本人なのだから驚きます。
She has great pianist!
mumeikun 3 years ago 3
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Wow that chick can play the piano so damn fast
RB304 3 years ago
She's no chick, she's lady. Fuck you.
bunnyoneedge 3 years ago 20
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go fuck yourself dumbass !!
RB304 2 years ago
Wow, you're so damn stupid.
paideianow 2 years ago
what is that first piece she says she played by shoenberg? Right around 7:40 minutes.
micktdx 3 years ago
She says "Schoenberg Opus 11," which is the Drei Klavierstücke (Three Piano Pieces), Op.11.
LucasD0745 3 years ago
I think I heard: opus eleven..
openpianist 3 years ago
i was lucky enough to listen to her live yesterday!! she is AMAZING!!
keysNstrings55 3 years ago 6
She is so brilliant. It is inspiring to listen to her talk about music. A true artist.
rycsu84 3 years ago
wow....I think I've just witnessed a true "musician" on Youtube...
nzlove 3 years ago
lol and she kind of looks like my aunt side on...
nzlove 3 years ago
She's so cute!
piargno 3 years ago
my newphew chris, was mashing down on a half assed casio ctk, i listened to it, really payed attention to it, it sounded like mush at first, but with effort and some dedication, i FOUND a way to percieve it so it can be some what enjoyable.
the moral of the story, taste in music is not a matter of what you like and dislike, it's what you understand and what you don't understand.
MoonSideMKDS 3 years ago 2
So elegant and classy :-)
HelenLloydMusic 3 years ago 2
I think I might be falling in love with this women. Also, I love the way her accent is a mixture of Japanese and German (with a bit of English: "soooo" "knoooow") What a gal!
lecomptedelalune 3 years ago 3
jesus
i thought she didn't speak english well.
Her english is beyond amazing.
cisdolce 3 years ago
shes awesome!
piedijon 3 years ago 2
For amateur pianists such as myself, her discussion of performance and what it takes to play concertos just makes you want to play the piano even more.
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boldguy1 3 years ago
Her passion for this piece is infectious. I can listen to and enjoy atonal music up to a point, but hearing her talk about it and break it down makes it more interesting.
Also agree that her Mozart readings are outstanding. Also, check out her Schubert recordings. Not sure if there are any here on YT, but her CDs of his Impromptus and Sonatas are excellent.
dmcII 3 years ago 9
She seems like a really cool person.
malachijanes85 3 years ago 7
i like her face when she speaks in front of the camera than she plays the piano, but don't get me wrong, i also like her especially when she plays Mozart.
osotriv 3 years ago
atonal music might be brilliantly composed, but it's appreciation is too technical as a result. i'd much rather dwell on music that's pleasing to the ears.
jcasbell 3 years ago
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I couldn't agree more with you jcasbell, except that in my opinion atonal music cannot be 'brilliantly composed' because it isn't music, as any sane person (such as yourself) can recognise!
josepharimathea 3 years ago
Of course it is music. This music may be more than 65 years old, but it has lasting lyricism and power and will continue to be played because it is a great work of art. Thank goodness music is so varied that it fills the needs for all kinds of expression. This is brilliantly composed -- no debate about that. Tonality is learned. One can learn to love music that isn't based on modern Western tonality. After all, medieval monks knew modes and not the modern major/minor tonalities.
3cplantin 3 years ago 4
Agree about the concert, but tonality is not 'learned' as if it is a random system of major/minor scales. It actually has a very deep foundation on intervals, harmonic series resonance, physics. There is nothing 'non-tonal' about medieval monks modes, traditional indian music etc.
VitorBRz 3 years ago 2
i cant stop watching this.this woman is amazing!
Chresida 3 years ago 4
Her interpretations of the Mozart pieces are downright breathtaking too. In my opinion, she is the best interpreter of Mozart today.
nelecr 3 years ago 3
Shoenberg has the firmest command of music theory, structure, etc., it is the emotional impact of this piece that really shines through for me. By using 12-tone harmony he is able to change moods on a dime and can express horror and delight in ways tonal music cannot.
nelecr 3 years ago 4
you are the person who really understand music. its rare. Enjoy!
GirlNo555 3 years ago
Thank you for this wonderful excerpt. This will definitely help me listen to the Piano Concerto with fresh ears.
jzonelee 3 years ago
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This gets my vote for the most enlightening and refreshing ten minutes on youtube. More, please!
xgianpatrick 3 years ago
Its good listening to people who know what they're talking about.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago 7
she speak english very fuluently,cos she stayed europe for a long time.
she is genius piano player,good mozart player.she is inspired.I like her mozart.
she is great piano player indeed.
werqf 4 years ago 5
This video pro(o)ves that music is indeed a universal language and that all people asserting that "Asians don't know how to play western classical music" are very wrong.Ok,they make faces(so what!!) but they make music as well!every continent has something characteristical,that's all.P.S. (I am not Asian).
go9zu 4 years ago 5
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The worst: She believes what she talks i think...........What she doesn´t understand as most oriental musicians, is their understanding of occidental music is weak, no matter how much they loved that music.That is one of the principal reasons they have to make faces, acting and all kind of extra musical things to be "expressive", The only exception i know until now is Claire Huangci. Really great, and only 16 yet.
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ytpiano7 4 years ago
That is preposterous!!! How dare you?
Are you going to start measuring skulls as well??
rullstensas 3 years ago 2
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Uchida, Lang Lang, Yundi etc ARE PROFESSIONALS. So it's ridiculous to
suggest their understanding of WESTERN
music is somehow difficient simply
because they are from Asis. Music is a universal language.
True, oriental pianists seem to
overact during play. probably they were mistakenly
influenced that way by their teachersn during their formative years.
Mannerisms are unfortunate and unnecessary and distracting. I hope they would get rid of them.
mcgiver02 3 years ago
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Thank you for mentioning Claire Huangci.
I just checked her out on youtube. You are right :
She's great. I hope Yundi could learn a thing or two from that young lady.
mcgiver02 3 years ago
This has to be one of the most ignorant comments in all of youtube. And youtube comments are pretty stupid.
paideianow 2 years ago
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Uhmmmmm....SO ...it means you are very smart?.
Nice to meet you. You can apply in my philosophy schooll. Of course i cannot guarantee your admision.
lokopiano.
lokopiano 2 years ago
No thanks. I would never apply to a shitty "schooll" where they can't even spell. Besides, I already have a PhD.
paideianow 2 years ago
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oH yEAHH?.
Well i have a acquintance who teach at Julliard , who play many years ago in a competence with me. .........I play twice better than him.............he has a PHD .....an he teached at Juilliard ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ His name is Julien Martin. A real teacher disgrace.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
You play "twice better"? According to which scale, may I ask? How do you measure that? By the way, I think the real disgrace of a teacher is the one who taught English. Complete failure.
paideianow 2 years ago 2
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No asshole. You are completely wrong. I never studied english in my life. Only the 5 years i spent in NY make me speak the few i know about. I I onñy like three language sin the world . Latin Italian and Spanish. . i admire the German as a rational sructure, but not as it sounds. The portoguese sounds to me as a funny Spanish. Is not ugñy , but i don´t take it seriously. The english is just a TOOL. to communicate internationally, and if you don´t bunderstand my bad english it means
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lokopiano 2 years ago
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you have a mental dissability. Anyway BTW my english is pretty better than thta i write for two reasons: I type extremely fast (i have not time to review anything i write) .
Second: Becuase i don´t care with a utilitarian language withouth beauty, and with almost not rules about pronunciation, etc. and where are almost not real verbs conjugation. Undretsand? asshole?
Anyway: My English, Spanish, Russian, martian, etc. are not the subjetc.
And that ugly japanese with
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lokopiano 2 years ago
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a sub -normal monkey manners of pianoi playing is quiete a good musician...BUT not more than that.
And her speech is ........bananas................nothing substancial or rational.
Lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
I couldn't care less about your taste in languages. If that's how you speak English after five years in NY, it's obvious you wasted your time.
As for English being utilitarian, read some Shakespeare.
About Uchida, please do shut up and come back when you record something so we can all take a shit on your ludicrous "manners of pianoi playing."
Also, take your head out of your ass.
paideianow 2 years ago 3
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Even your un precise language had need of Latin.I don´t waste my time in NY becuase i studied with two teachers who are great pianists and both two speak your language as bad as mine.
Of course Shakespeare.........even in Rusian ( an extremely ugly language you have Fedor Dostoievsky). BUt compare the amount and quality of Italian and Spanish literature.
Concerning Uchida i keep my position:
She is a fine musician. Extremely ugly and with repulsive way of playing the piano.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
You don't fool anyone. You couldn't stay in NY because of your mediocrity. Period.
There's nothing "repulsive" in Uchida's playing while there's plenty of repulsive in your childish opinions.
Who's to say a language is "pretty" or "ugly"? You're full of prejudices (and of shit as well). I guess you also believe that Paris is the "city of love" and nonsense like that.
It's clear you have the faintest knowledge about English literature.
paideianow 2 years ago 2
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Are you imbecil?
Why you insist in that?
Concerning Paris, i love Paris but not for that ridicoulos idea created for the US people and they typìcall association of stupidities, like the Italians eat pastasciutta every day , and they sing the whole day. That stupid publicity is for people like you...who speak english... :-) but not for me.
If you don´t believe i don´t live in NY , well if you are happy with that.........what can i do?
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
I was just looking at the list of pianists included in Phillip's great collection Great Pianists of the 20th Century. Brendel, Perahia, Gould, Gulda, they're all in there. Uchida is included too with beautiful recordings of Debussy, Mozart, and Debussy.
However, I can't find anything by lokopiano. Apparently he is too busy looking good and playing weddings and bar mitzvahs to be bothered.
PS. Mi lengua natal es el español. Pero mi inglés es excelente, a diferencia del suyo.
paideianow 2 years ago 3
I wouldn't want to step in but, lokopiano... that's some bullshit.
sfLoat23 2 years ago
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Bull shit is the way she olays the piano and the extremely ugly body language she makes.
çAnd of course all the subjetive words she speak.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
No, BULLSHIT is the way you think that Asians play like monkey! And bullshit is the way you percept such puny and imbecile thoughts!
sfLoat23 2 years ago 4
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But thatñs the truth, Most Asisn pianists play like a monkeys. Of course are exceptions . Watch Yuja Wang or Claire huangci. They are sober and with class. That Uchida is a false kind of "crazy musician" ...........she is not crazy and nothing similar , she just has a lot of lack of self control. She looks like a maniac , and with that conductor they make the ideal couple.
lokopiano.
lokopiano 2 years ago
lol... you must be dumb to the highest order...
gipfeli 2 years ago
This sounds personal. I think U R being subjective.
tomestubbs 2 years ago
Yes i am. I do suck cocks, after all.
Iokopiano 2 years ago
Locopiano, Sucking cock is about as personal as one can get, especially if U tell the recipient your name first. So Locopiano do U like Pianissimo or fortissimo or a combo of both? And can you do this while sucking cock? Just bing Aleatoric.
tomestubbs 2 years ago
Oh locopiano, I forgot to ask! Do U swallow?
tomestubbs 2 years ago
subplantation of identity.
some frustrated hacker who like the "Quasimodos"maybe.\Lokopianio
lokopiano 2 years ago
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Welll it's true , Asians don't paly like monkeys, but worse than them......
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
I think she is striking. It is extremely difficult to pull off a schoenberg piece like this and by no means is it a normal piece of music.
tomestubbs 2 years ago
Bahhhh.....Pollini (real great pianist) plays from memory the2nd Boulez piano sonata............................so? wich is the point , if that sonata is a good pice of shit?...
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
OK I'll look up Pollini playing Boulez if U look @ Valentina Lisitza playing Gaspard De La Nuit.
tomestubbs 2 years ago
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The big diferenceis the diffence in difficulty,
Boulez sonata is a shit . Gaspard de la Nuit not of course, but Boulez sonata is much more difficult.
Anyway, Lisitza is a pinost not comparable with Pollini. Pollini belong to a superior elite.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
Silencio, subnormal!!
paideianow 2 years ago
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Why don't you go suck cocks since you enjoy it so much.
Maurbel 2 years ago
What an engaging pianist and woman.
Pogouldiwitz 4 years ago 4
Thanks for this. Really great to hear a performer speak about this composer with her own ideas and appreciation for composition. Bravo!!
iwanttowatchsomethin 4 years ago 5
Whether one calls oneself conservative or revolutionary, whether one composes in a conventional or progressive manner, whether one tries to imitate old styles or is destined to express new ideas -- whether one is a good composer or not -- one must be convinced of the infallibility of one's own fantasy and one must believe in one's own inspiration. (Arnold Schoenberg, "Composition with Twelve Tones")
ascvideo 4 years ago
I can no longer add to the Ketchum-Ramatganski-erniesparks substring. So just declare Ramatgansky the winner and go on doing what you separately would do anyway.
erniesparks 4 years ago
I won't be offended and I'll definitely understand if you declined, even by not responding.
Ramatganski 4 years ago
YouTube commentary is no place to carry on a discussion. I have learned my lesson.
erniesparks 4 years ago 2
Like A. Schoenberg's, B. Bartok's music may also at times (most inconsistently) be very confusing and difficult to immediately relate to emotionally.
I don't yet have enough of Schoenberg's music to "work with", but I did have a personal break-through with that Bartok 1st movement which always "bugged" me.
Sorry, but as long as the discussion is relevant to the video commented upon, I don't see a reason to apply your "lesson", though I accept and understand your position.
Ramatganski 4 years ago
I love her! Amazing in Schubert, Mozart + Schoenberg!! And her accent is exactly like Georg Solti's...
crowe 4 years ago
I am surprised, I thought she only plays Mozart, guess a good musician is good at every piece they play.
taoxia1970 4 years ago
Most pianists don't find this music comfortable, but she shows that it is infallibly effective when played with mastery and conviction.
mfried46 4 years ago 4
yep... nobody is perfect. But I could say.. she's near of this.
She is almost perfect. ^^
scaramangg 4 years ago
ownage.
SteveFeces 4 years ago
I Love her... She is a Treasure. Anything she does is Wonderful.... and her Mozart brings me to tears..... Thanks for Posting this! Charles, in Atlanta, GA
versailles1986 4 years ago
She looks like my piano teacher I had when i was 10 years old. I bet she has a cat. And I bet the cat has dementia from all the Schoenberg playing!
FellmanBaines 4 years ago
Uchida is a wonderful presenter.
I doubt most cats would go mad over any music, as long as it is fairly uniform. I once had a cat who would run away from hard timpani bangs. My present cat peacefully tolerates whatever I play through speakers, including this. Cats have no concept of humanly conceived music. However, cats will tune in on your reactions to it.
Holy retrograde inversions: this is great!
erniesparks 4 years ago
I recommend two books that might interest you. first "Music, the Brain, and Ecstacy" by Robert Jourdain. A phenomenol book dealing with many aspects of music. Also, "The Cult of the Amateur. How today's Internet is Killing our Culture." by Andrew Keen, 2007.
FellmanBaines 4 years ago
Robert Jourdain, Music, the Brain, and Ecstasy: How Music Captures Our Imagination, William Morrow Press,1997
Do I really want to understand that much about Mancini's Pink Panther theme? :)
What neat idea (or more) did you derive from this book? Has it altered your listening habits?
erniesparks 4 years ago
Andrew Keen,The Cult of the Amateur: How Today's Internet Is Killing Our Culture, Doubleday, 2007
I don't have anger about Internet content. People can post stuff; I can ignore them. That's all I need.
erniesparks 4 years ago
What movement is the beginning of the video from with the cadenza-like octaves spanning up the keyboard(which starts at about 0:17)?
scottturner1994 4 years ago
17": final passage of the entire concerto.
mfried46 4 years ago
She is so gorgeous, so gifted, so passionate! I had several times the honor to be in her concertos, her Mozart is unique, Schönberg aswell!
I adore Mitsuko Uchida!
levantissimo 4 years ago 2
This is awesome. So great to watch such a talented performer who is so devoted to the composer's music!!
musicintheabstract 4 years ago
Thanks so much for uploading this!
damildlyshreddah 4 years ago
I think she's amazing! A passionate and phenomenal performer. She speaks so eloquently and beautifully too. She is also hot!
Steve4590 4 years ago
There is a wonderful recording of Uchida and Boulez doing this concerto for those of you who are interested. Included in the liner notes is an analysis written by Uchida herself. This is the cd that got me liking this concerto. BTW, thanks for the clip.
nibelungensohn 4 years ago
How delightful - what a passionate woman and how well she brings this music to life!
DevaRupa 4 years ago
shes a little crazy lol but also very passionate and really intelligent
clairefedfield 4 years ago
a great art
JJ77TTUU3 4 years ago
\o/
FaizRLZ17 4 years ago
I just love Mitsuko Uchida. She plays wonderfully and it is always very interesting to here her unique Eurasian accent. Shoenberg's concerto is among my favorites, yes, a lot of brain work!
scottturner1994 4 years ago
i think she's crazy...but i guess that's considered genius
gene1102 4 years ago
I just love her! How I would love to hear her play this piece in concert.........
pawdaw 4 years ago
Genial!!! I love the opening of the concerto
MatthewMingLi 4 years ago