@TC1931 I think it has probably become more popular over the years, as more and more people around the world have become affluent enough to be able to afford to travel to Paris. But I wasn't around in 1950, so I can't compare directly.
what intrigues me the most is that these things belonged to people who shaped the face of civilaztion and the way things are run...simply amazing. You dont have to go all the way to paris. we can also support our local city museum...educate yourself and appreciate the things that make life...well...LIFE! :)
Mxzmanic, the first 17 minutes of this video are what I imagine what hell must be like. Perhaps the circles of hell where sheeple hang out and rattle off the lists of things they've "done" in Paris. I'll never understand why people will go to such expense and effort to get somewhere and then merely go "Huh", take a photo or video (that's even funnier - what about a statue that has existed, motionless, for millenia, warrants a video?) and then go home?
@LizzyFaire I've done that first 17 minutes many, many times, and it is indeed a kind of hell, particularly in summer when it's 85° inside the museum, with no air movement or air conditioning. A lot of tourists seem to want only proof that they've been somewhere. This seems to be especially true with large tour groups from the Far East. Being a confirmed member of their group is more important than actually seeing the sights, it seems.
@joebstewart I haven't been to see the jewels in years, so I don't know what the current policy is for that area. The museum tried to prohibit all photos in 2005 but quickly gave up on that idea. Some temporary expositions don't allow photos. My position is that I simply won't visit any place that doesn't allow photos, since the only reason I even go to a museum is generally to take photos.
@VilleMagique I fully agree. Both the Mona Lisa and the Venus de Milo are famous just because they are famous. Artistically they are unremarkable for the most part (Leonardo da Vinci, for example, did a lot of things that are way more impressive than this simple commissioned portrait). But they are still the big attractions at the Louvre—without them, the museum would be tens of millions of euro poorer each year.
@joebstewart Sometimes people perk up a bit if you explain to them that the Winged Victory is a statue of Nike. But then you have to explain that Nike is a Greek goddess, not just a shoe. It can get complicated.
When we were there I saw many men have their girl friends stand in front of the Mona Lisa. Then the guy would photograph or video the two of them together. I guess he thought that would turn his girl friend into the Mona Lisa. Or at least put her on par with Mona Lisa.
@joebstewart Tourists—particularly those from the Far East, like China and Japan—like to get pictures of themselves in front of all recognizable monuments. Everyone already knows what the Mona Lisa looks like, but I guess psychologically it's important to have a picture of oneself in front of it. Lisa del Giocondo must have been an average girl herself, since da Vinci painted her that way … if she had been beautiful, he would have put that in the painting.
@Mxsmanic No air conditioning in any department? Do you have a warm atmosphere inside the Museum of Adhan this art because of the harm is too hot, but the restaurants are there in the Louvre itself? Or under the Palace of the Louvre?
@moon88989 Some areas are air-conditioned, some not. The Grand Gallery and the room where the Mona Lisa is kept are air-conditioned moderately well. Many other parts of the most popular tourist paths through the museum are not, and they are extremely hot and humid in warm weather.
@Mxsmanic Thank you for your answer, but I want to ask a question please what are the days which reduces the congestion of people or a month? Through you I went to the museum what Xi, who do not like the noise I mean people, and adapt it there is something other
@moon88989 Currently the Louvre is open in the evenings until 9:45 PM on Wednesdays and Fridays. If you go then, there are relatively few people and you can relax while visiting. If you visit in winter, there are also fewer tourists and the atmosphere inside is comfortable instead of being oppressively hot and humid.
thank goodness i visited aroungd 1950. no crowds at all, maybe being holidays in august there?
TC1931 1 week ago
@TC1931 I think it has probably become more popular over the years, as more and more people around the world have become affluent enough to be able to afford to travel to Paris. But I wasn't around in 1950, so I can't compare directly.
Mxsmanic 1 week ago
I loved it. It feels like I'm actually there.
jairomartins 4 weeks ago
what intrigues me the most is that these things belonged to people who shaped the face of civilaztion and the way things are run...simply amazing. You dont have to go all the way to paris. we can also support our local city museum...educate yourself and appreciate the things that make life...well...LIFE! :)
soapbox187 5 months ago
And of course, you know I didn't mean you when talking about taking videos. I adore your videos!
LizzyFaire 5 months ago
Mxzmanic, the first 17 minutes of this video are what I imagine what hell must be like. Perhaps the circles of hell where sheeple hang out and rattle off the lists of things they've "done" in Paris. I'll never understand why people will go to such expense and effort to get somewhere and then merely go "Huh", take a photo or video (that's even funnier - what about a statue that has existed, motionless, for millenia, warrants a video?) and then go home?
LizzyFaire 5 months ago
@LizzyFaire I've done that first 17 minutes many, many times, and it is indeed a kind of hell, particularly in summer when it's 85° inside the museum, with no air movement or air conditioning. A lot of tourists seem to want only proof that they've been somewhere. This seems to be especially true with large tour groups from the Far East. Being a confirmed member of their group is more important than actually seeing the sights, it seems.
Mxsmanic 5 months ago
Thank you, this was priceless!
wdb4me 5 months ago
very good
merpanama 6 months ago
The only things I remember they did not allow pictures or video of are the French National Jewels. Correct?
joebstewart 6 months ago
@joebstewart I haven't been to see the jewels in years, so I don't know what the current policy is for that area. The museum tried to prohibit all photos in 2005 but quickly gave up on that idea. Some temporary expositions don't allow photos. My position is that I simply won't visit any place that doesn't allow photos, since the only reason I even go to a museum is generally to take photos.
Mxsmanic 6 months ago
The Mona Lisa is so overrated. Beautiful but overrated.
VilleMagique 6 months ago
@VilleMagique I fully agree. Both the Mona Lisa and the Venus de Milo are famous just because they are famous. Artistically they are unremarkable for the most part (Leonardo da Vinci, for example, did a lot of things that are way more impressive than this simple commissioned portrait). But they are still the big attractions at the Louvre—without them, the museum would be tens of millions of euro poorer each year.
Mxsmanic 6 months ago
I think that the Winged Victory is very special also. I spent a lot of time looking at it and reading about it there.
joebstewart 6 months ago
@joebstewart Sometimes people perk up a bit if you explain to them that the Winged Victory is a statue of Nike. But then you have to explain that Nike is a Greek goddess, not just a shoe. It can get complicated.
Mxsmanic 6 months ago
When we were there I saw many men have their girl friends stand in front of the Mona Lisa. Then the guy would photograph or video the two of them together. I guess he thought that would turn his girl friend into the Mona Lisa. Or at least put her on par with Mona Lisa.
joebstewart 6 months ago
@joebstewart Tourists—particularly those from the Far East, like China and Japan—like to get pictures of themselves in front of all recognizable monuments. Everyone already knows what the Mona Lisa looks like, but I guess psychologically it's important to have a picture of oneself in front of it. Lisa del Giocondo must have been an average girl herself, since da Vinci painted her that way … if she had been beautiful, he would have put that in the painting.
Mxsmanic 6 months ago
@Mxsmanic No air conditioning in any department? Do you have a warm atmosphere inside the Museum of Adhan this art because of the harm is too hot, but the restaurants are there in the Louvre itself? Or under the Palace of the Louvre?
moon88989 1 month ago
@moon88989 Some areas are air-conditioned, some not. The Grand Gallery and the room where the Mona Lisa is kept are air-conditioned moderately well. Many other parts of the most popular tourist paths through the museum are not, and they are extremely hot and humid in warm weather.
Mxsmanic 1 month ago
@Mxsmanic Thank you for your answer, but I want to ask a question please what are the days which reduces the congestion of people or a month? Through you I went to the museum what Xi, who do not like the noise I mean people, and adapt it there is something other
moon88989 1 month ago
@moon88989 Currently the Louvre is open in the evenings until 9:45 PM on Wednesdays and Fridays. If you go then, there are relatively few people and you can relax while visiting. If you visit in winter, there are also fewer tourists and the atmosphere inside is comfortable instead of being oppressively hot and humid.
Mxsmanic 1 month ago
@Mxsmanic Thank you
moon88989 1 month ago
Excellent. I will watch again tomorrow. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your work.
joebstewart 6 months ago
Thanks again... I so enjoyed the Louvre during my visit..
nddbulldog 6 months ago