Can any of you here who are teaching immortality of the sould and the trinity please tell me how it is that you are teaching 2 doctrines that are both of pagan origin? The funny thing about it is that the verbage that you use to explain both of these doctrines are identical to the wording used by the pagans to explain theirs. Yahoo search "origin of the trinity" and click "from paganism to Constantine" and yahoo search "origin of immortality of the soul" and click on "immortal soul. SHOCKING!!!
@georgehuddo Im not runnin away rest assured. Thro 20 yrs experience I know when its time to end a fruitless discussion. Its not constructive to be condescending towards ppl who dont think the same way u do. And since u cannot refrain from being disrespectful and rude although I asked u nicely, I end this conversation. Read John 13:35, Gal 5:22, 23; 1 Pe 3:15 and 1 John 4:7-20, meditate over the profound wisdom within these verses. I really hope you find the truth one day. Good bye, Sir.
@Mis4el1973 The verses you present speak about loving our brothers in the faith. Only you are not my brother, because you preach Heresy. It is well spoken of you when the scriptures say "You travel the earth and the sea, to find one proselyte, and when you do find one, you make him twice as much a son of of Hell than you are yourself." Matt.23;13-15. Because of your stiff necked heretical dogma, children are dying, and 6-7 million people are going to be damned forever.in Gehenna.
@Mis4el1973 Every body knows that the Father is THE GOD. The Watchtowers Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures (under the Greek language) clearly tells us that The Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit are also THE GOD in John 20:28 and acts 5:3,4. The "DEFINITE ARTICLE is used in both of these passages, so it is clear that the three persons are THE ONE GOD in TRINITY, because there is only ONE GOD, AND THERE IS NO OTHER Isaiah 43:10; 44:6;45:21 46:9.
Did you know that the founder of the Jehovahs witnesses Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd degree Mason? And the 1st Kingdom hall had an Egyptian Pagan symbol above the front door? later removed! The new world transations is another way of saying New World Order! His tomb stone is a Pyramid! All religion was created to controll man! The world is partly held back in the bronze ages by people who still believe in Magic!
Well John clearly says in the book of revelation whoever takes anything out of the book of life shall not goto heaven n even people who adds into the bible shall not go into heaven that's what JW do they take things away from the bible.
Pretend u are in a court case where u can only say yes or no these lawyer might say did you hit ur wife you will say no but they will go oh so u used to hit her that's what JW are good at they try to put u in a corner so at the end u follow them that's what the
Sad that this guy doesn't realize his denomination and all the denominations of Christianity are equally as corrupt and equally as distant from Jesus Christ's teachings as one another.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
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To all Atheists “Man is deemed to die once then comes judgment.” Heb.9:27. After the body you have now is resurrected, Death & Hades are thrown into Gehenna the Lake of Fire with Satan the Beast & the False Prophet. If your name is not written in the book of life, you too will be thrown alive into Gehenna. Death as we know it has gone & you can’t die again & will burn alive in sulphur & brimstone day & night forever. Rev.20:10-15 Thus says the Scriptures which cannot be broken
@cmfernandez9283 All have sinned and fall shor tof the Glory of God, and that includes you! There is only one who has not sinned, and that is why "By Grace we are saved. Praise God huh!
GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON.Jesus said he's God's Son-Matthew 3:17,Mark 9:7,Psalms 2:7,Luke 9:35,Prov.8:22.DEMONS,expelled said he's Son of God-Luke 4:41.Matt.8:29, Mark3:11.Others said he's Son-John1:14,49,3:17,5:18,36,6:46,10:36,Mark15:39,Matthew 26:63,27:40. Hebrews10:29,4:14.An angel said he's Son-Luke1:35.Jehovah God is Jesus' God-John15:1,16:3,30,20:17, Matt.26:26,36-44,64,Mark15:34,Ephesians1:17.Son=Mediator-1Timothy 2:5,Heb.1:3,4,8:6,9:15,12:24, Romans1:4,8,9,Acts7:55,56.
@BereanBeacon1 LAY OFF THE CRACK ROCK...how would you know if I do or do not go to church. and you think an internet test will het you in to heaven, than you sir are spiritually dead.!
@bobblehead1909 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:43,44
@bobblehead1909 If you don't have the free gift of God by faith in Jesus Christ, then you are indeed dead spiritually, according to the Bible. This applies to everyone as well.
Are you good enough for heaven?
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@faustus999 You cannot understand because you are spiritually dead and love darkness.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
@bobblehead1909 Without the free gift of God, all are spiritually dead.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in he latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1Tomothy 4:1,2
@bobblehead1909 You cannot understand because you are spiritually dead and love darkness.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
You see... what you're missing is that all JW's study the bible too. We don't just sit there in our congregation and blindfolded believe in everything. And another thing! We didn't need to go to a certain amount of houses to be saved then and not now either, thats preposterous!
@Mis4el1973 You cannot understand because you are spiritually dead and love darkness.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
You are then required fill out a time sheet. If you fall away with this "Look Out". With work and looking after family, and shopping and things like that, where do you find the time to do do an in-depth study of the Bible? If you did find the time to read the Bible, and not all that other rubbish, you would have known that Christ is True God from True God, and True Light from True Light, in fact Your own new World Translation says He is Jehovah Jesus. (2 of 2)
@Mis4el1973 In regards to Matt 24:14 the answer is, the Christian Churches. In regards to Matt. 28:19,20, the answer is, the Christian Churches. You are required to read two Watchtowers and two Awakes a month, and answer the questions in them as well as other publications of the Watchtower. You are also required to attend Kingdom Hall three times a week, and are also required to go door to door for a set period of time (approx 30 hours a month) (1 of 2)
@georgehuddo Matt 24:14 and 28:19, 20 doesnt refer to any churches, since they dont actually TEACH about Gods kingdom or J.C's commandments. Were recommended to attend to Kingdom Hall meetings according to Hebr 10:24, 25. Thats where we gather to encourage eachother and study Gods word! Wego door to door because we want to, noot because were required to. We dont need to go 30 hr/month unless ur a helping pioneer. U need to get ur facts straight Mr. Vomiting prejudiced claims doesnt help ur cause
@Mis4el1973 Christians also gather together, at their place. The people are the Church and the people who are the Church gather together to study Gods Word together, pray and sing and give praise God. They also give help to those in need, such as widows and orphans and those that ask for help, even you if you asked. Denomination is not a condition of receiving help. Our ministry is one to one on, in the Word as we witness to others to the Glory of God. So what is your beef ????
yet your Organization calls on the support of Johannes Greber an ex Catholic priest turned Spiritist to support their rendering of John.I:1. They also claim support from Archbishop Newcomb’s translation of the Bible after the Thos Belsham a Unitarian, changed John1;1 to read that the Word was “a god” from the Word “was God”, after Newcombe died. How can your mob call on support of John.1:1 from sources like those.? (7 of 7)
@georgehuddo Johannes Grebers translation of John 1:1 has got nothing to do with spiritism. About the other fella Newcomb I've never heard of, but then again it doesnt matter since our understanding of the scripture doesnt lie on only 2 persons translations. So sorry. There is yet to be explained from your part how "ton theon" and "theos" can be the same God, since theos is in indefinite form as the way u explain "a god" and "ton theon" definite form, used to define Jehovah God as the only God.
Spirit mediums are to be stoned to death.Leviticus.20:27. People who follow Spirit Mediums, like your Organization and its Governing Body are detestable in Gods eyes. Deuteronomy 18:11 This being so, how can Gods so called Theocratic Organization violate these Commandments if they are truly God's Organization. See: Leviticus.19:31 1Sam.28:3; 2Kings.21:6; 23.24; Isaiah. 19:3; 29:4,and Rev. 22:15; (3 of 3)
@georgehuddo We dont follow spirit mediums. Again you make accusations based on fragments of truth to fit your prejudices and preconceptions. You cannot prove that we are following a spirit medium just because it simply isnt true. How about making an honest research instead of just using bits and pieces to make it look like we had dishonest motives? That is very dishonest of you and not a Christlike behavior. Again and again you show through your actions that youre not a true christian.
I sincerely say to all you Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Save yourselves,, and abandon this Watchtower society who is, (1) a Worldwide False Prophet, who’s end time prophesies failed in; 1873, 1881, 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1942, and 1975”. (2) You also need to abandon this Watchtower Society and their Governing Body, who teach the Doctrines of Johannes Greber and his wife,who was also a medium. (3) You also need to abandon the Society over blood, lest ye murder your Children (6 of 6)
I have easily proven that the Watchtower Society is definitely not Gods Organization and cannot be, because they quote the Doctrines of the Spirit Mediums Johannes Greber .and his wife Elizabeth, which in turn were given to them, by the demons, in large lettering before their very eyes. These doctrines of the demons given to Johannes Greber and his wife Elizabeth, fight against Jehovah , His Majesty,His Word , His Eternal Son , and the person of His Holy Spirit,etc (5 of 6)
You cannot be partaking of the “table of Jehovah “and the demons at the same time 1st Cor.10:21. Satan is the father of liars, and the Prince of the demons. Luke.11:15. What harmony is there between Christ and Belial 2nd Cor 6:15? Belial is a term from Hebrew used to designate Satan who is the personification of wickedness and evil. (4 of 6)
Greber the Spirit Medium goes on to say: (8) The Christian Church of today is not preaching the Gospel.p.426. (9) The Bible is not inspired or dependable. (The New Testament by Johannas Greber. P,15.). Every one of these doctrines are identical with the Doctrines of the Watchtower Organization To all those who receive the spiritual food of demons from the Watchtower, hear this! You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons. (3 of 6)
Greber’s demons spoke through Him and taught these doctrines: (1) Jesus Christ is not God. p.330 (2) Jehovah only is God. p. 331,333,328,302. (3) Christ is a created being.p.301. (4) That Christ’s body was not resurrected.p.385. (5) The body of Jesus was dematerialised.p.385. (6) There is no eternal Hell P.379. (7) The Higher powers of Romans 13 are not the earthy Governments. p.414,415. (2 of 6)
@Mis4el1973 I have researched the Arian Cult of the Watchtower for a long time, and have collected a lot of information about this Synagogue of Satan, the Watchtower. And in fair comment I say that: Your Doctrines of the watchtower Bible and tract society are exactly the same as Johannes Greber’s Doctrines of demons. According to Grebers books (Communications with the Spirit World), and his Translation of the New Testament, as given to Him by the Spirits. (1 of 6)
Watchtower called on the support of Johannes Greber to support their rendering of John.1:1. Greber was an ex Catholic priest who married Elizabeth. Both He and his wife were Spirit Mediums and translated the Gospels with the help of the Spirits. The Scriptures forbid people to consult with Spirit Mediums. " Do not consult with spirit mediums lest ye be defiled by them."Leviticus 19:31. (2 of 3)
@georgehuddo The translation of Johannes Greber was only used on a few sporadic occasions to give support to how the words in Matt 27:52, 53 and John 1:1 had been translated in NW and other authoritative translations. When it came to Watchtower's knowledge that he and his wife was spirit mediums they immediately distanced from them, we're not solely dependent on his translation. You must take the whole situation under consideration and not just use bits n pieces that fits ur prejudiced mind.
@Mis4el1973 No Greek Scholar would agree with your explanation of John .!:1. You cannot use the indefinite article in John 1:1 just to suit your heretical viewpoint. (1 of 3)
@georgehuddo Then ask the greek scholar why they write god in indefinite form "theos" and in definite form "ton theon". You see... in all languages you do not make differences between the same person by first defining them and then undefining them. Because God is defined in the first form, as in a definite form it clearly shows that the other godform is lesser because he is presented in an indefinite form as a lesser god, "a god". We have also got scholars, fluent in koine greek so...
@Mis4el1973 If you have scholars, what are their names, or are they obscure, people who are just made up. You say "because Christ is presented in an indefinite form as a lesser God, He is "a god". In saying this you have Just blasphemed against Jehovah, by calling Him a liar, when he says "there is no God before me neither will there be any after me" Isa.43:10. Those who blaspheme God, with their mouths or the written word, are damned to Gehenna for eternity.Rev.20:10,15. NWT.
@Mis4el1973 Those who know the Greek language and its grammar say you cannot use an indefinite article to change the true meaning of John 1;1-3. The language does not allow it..The Watchtower Bible The New World Translation was written by faceless men, because The Organization refuse to say who they are because no reputable Greek or Hebrew Scholar will support this corrupted version. To all Jehovah's Witnesses open up the New King James,or the New American Standard, and read. .
They are Matt. 1:23; John 1:1; 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8. They all say that Jesus Christ was and is and will always be God. You say don’t judge, but you and your organization the Watchtower have been calling the God loving people of the Christian churches the “Whore of Babylon” forever and a day,and you & your Organization teach that the Christian churches are of Satan, (6 of 7)
@georgehuddo We don't call other churches "whore of Babylon", the Bible does with explanations to how these churches would behave. For one: having intimate relationship with politics, governments etc. Thats just 1 of the reasons that puts the majority of todays "christian" churches on the chopping block. They themselves have put them there. Not us. (1 of 2)
@georgehuddo Rom 9:5 also literally interpreted to fit the babylonian trinity doctrine. Again here u need to understand the translation correctly. What seems to be a proof of Jesus being God contradicts the rest of the bible. Just read the letters of Paul for instance! Rom 15:6 "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ". This single scripture alone tells us that Jehovah God is God and Father of J.C and with this in mind Jesus Christ cannot be God of himself, that is extremly contradictory!
@georgehuddo Compare Titus 1:4 with Titus 2:13. Both verses clearly separates God Jehovah from Jesus Christ. They are always mentioned as two different individuals. Also the mere fact that Jesus prayed to Jehovah God tells us that they cannot be the same person. Why would Jesus pray to himself? There is no reason. He could have just woken Lazarus up without praying to himself. It does not make any perfect sense what so ever! Its insane! Titus 2:13 clearly separates God from Jesus Christ.
@Mis4el1973 In Titus.2:13 Who's coming were they waiting for? If it is Christ's, Then Christ is Jesus Jehovah. No one can gaze upon the face of the Father, can they?
@georgehuddo In Titus 2:13 theyre waiting for Jehovah... AND a second person: Jesus. U must examine these verses in the light of what the rest of the bible says. Not just rely on a few verses and neglect what the rest of the bible teaches us. That is just plain dishonest. The Bible refers to Jesus as "the Son" never does the bible say that Jesus is God. This has thoroughly been explained to you. If u cannot see it, then I guess we have to agree on disagreeing.
@Mis4el1973 where does Scripture specifically say that two people are coming. According to the angels in acts1:11,12. It is only Jesus who is coming. The Father won't be coming , because all who see his face will die, because no human being can look upon His face and live,
@Mis4el1973 It would be treason against Almighty God for me to agree on disagreeing with you on Titus 2:13 or any other Holy Scripture of the Word of God. You are a Christ Fighter and a fighter of the Holy Spirit as was Arius.
@Mis4el1973 No it doesn't Titus 2;13 clearly declares Christ to be God and Savior. The Watchtower society has corrupted this verse in the New World Translation to hide that fact.
@georgehuddo About Hebrews 1:8, there's also a classic misinterpretation to fit the trinity doctrine. Have you made any kind of researching of where the trinity originates from? I can tell you: Triune gods was very common in Babylon. Have you ever considered that the jews only acknowledge ONE God, not THREE? Jesus was a jew, and he only acknowledged ONE God: Jehovah. He never ever referred to himself as God, he always focused his teachings on Jehovah, not on himself. (1 of 2)
@Mis4el1973 You are certainly finding a lot wrong with Gods word. Who is in error here, you or Jehovah? The Scriptures say is Jehovah not a God of Confusion, so It is you who is confused!!!
@georgehuddo You see... a few scriptures cannot support a doctrine when they are in contradiction to the rest of the Bible. Just examine Rom 15:6; 2 Cor 1:3; Eph 1:3, 17 and 1 Pe 1:3. They all refer to Jehovah God as "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" which is in perfect harmony with what J.C himself said to Mary in John 20:17 "‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God."
@Mis4el1973 Do you notice how Christ keeps himself separate from Mary. He didn't say "our" God because his position with His father is not the same as her's or anybody else's, because His relationship with His Father was unique as was no other, because He was the Eternal Son of God ( Micah.5:2 ) who became incarnate ( Philippians.2:6-9) to save that which was lost. IE: You and me!
@georgehuddo John 20:17 perfectly explains that Jesus is ascending to the God and Father of both Jesus and ours = Jesus is not God. "I am ascending to MY Father and YOUR Father and to MY God and YOUR God". You see? He is saying that the same God and Father we pray to is also the God and Father that Jesus prayed to. And since there is ONLY ONE God then Jesus cannot be God! Dont forget to study about Jesus being the firstborn of all creation, i e the first thing that Jehovah created was: Jesus.
@Mis4el1973 The Koine Greek Scholars tell me that the word ‘’Firstborn’’ in the Greek language does not in any way say that the Logos Jesus Christ was a created being. If He was a created being, the writer of Colo1:15-16 (the highly educated Paul) would have used the word ‘’PROTOKTISIS’’ instead of ‘’PROTOTOKOS’’ Why then would the Governing Body deceive people by telling them that the word PROTOTOKOS means that Christ was created when it doesn’t? Why do they lie about this?
@Mis4el1973 You Jehovah's Witnesses always pitch Christ's Humanity against His Deity because you don't want to understand the Incarnate Christ of Philippians 2:6-9 to your own peril. You ignore Scriptures like Zechariah.2:8-13, & John 12:41 with Isaiah 6:1 because you don't want to accept the truth of Scripture that Jesus is God from God who became incarnate to save humanity, & destroy the works of Satan Sin & Death.You believe Watchtower doctrine over your own Bible. Get real !!!!!
@georgehuddo We do not deny Christs deity as "a god". We deny that he is God. Phi 2:6-9 explains that Jesus although he was existing in God's form (i e being the highest created living being) had no thoughts about making himself equal to God. That is what Phi 2:6-9 explains. Jesus also says in Matt 26:39 that "Yet, not as I will, but as you will." Jesus' prayer would be unnecessary if he was infact Jehovah God. He obeys Jehovahs will instead of pushing for his own will = Jesus is not God. 1 of 2
@georgehuddo Believe you me, we do NOT ignore scriptures. That is such a false accusation!! Apropå Zechariah 2:8-13 and John 12:41 = He saw Jehovahs GLORY in a VISION, not Jehovah HIMSELF. When you miss a detail like that in the scriptures it is no wonder you struggle to understand what Gods word actually is teaching. I urge you to pray to Jehovah for guidance with his holy spirit so that also you can understand Gods word in a more profound way. (1 of 2)
@Mis4el1973 Zechariah 2.8-13, is clear prophesy of the First & Second Advent of Christ. The Watchtowers own New World Translation is telling all the Jehovah's Witnesses, That JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE FATHER) IS SENDING JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE MESSIAH JESUS CHRIS)T to dwell amongst His people. His possession will be the tribe of Judah, & His choice will be Jerusalem, the City named after God. Thomas as was right when he called Christ "The God of me and The Lord of me. Check it out!l.
@Mis4el1973 Zechariah.2:8-13 is clear Messianic Prophesy, where Jehovah the Father sends (1) Jehovah the Eternal Son (Micah.5:2), who is also Jehovah of Armies in the First & Second Advents. On another separate occasion, Isaiah saw Jehovah Jesus sitting on His Throne (John12:41 with Isaiah 6:1). If you say Isaiah.6:1 is only a vision, & not really Jehovah Jesus, then by your rules of reasoning, can you be saying the same about the 144000, & other passages in the Book of Revelations?
In His humanity he called His father His God, but His relationship with His Father was unique and like no other. That is why he kept himself apart by saying My Father and your Father, and not "our Father" My God, and your God, and not "our God" when He spoke to Mary Magdalene, and the others. It is Treason to Jehovah God and His Word, if you accept Christ’s Humanity , and not His Deity. Shalom. (2 of 2)
Besides being God from God and True God from True God, Jesus Christ was also a man born of the Virgin, in the line of King David, and Fathered by God. Luke.1;26-38 He was the Incarnate “Emmanuel, God with us.” Matthew.1:23. He was Jehovah sent by Jehovah, in the First Advent and is Jesus Jehovah of Armies who will also be sent by Jehovah of armies the Father in the Second Advent.Zech.2:8-13. Christ was fully man and fully God, according to Philippians,2:6-9. (1 of 2)
@georgehuddo Do u let media and other ppl shape ur thoughts or do u make ur own researches? Cuz considering ur answers so far, u have very little knowledge about what is really going on in our congregations, our organization and whatnot. It is clear to see that u let other ppl think for u. How about establishing ur own personal opinion, based on balanced facts rather than basing it on prejudices & destructive gossip that only have one purpose to misscredit other persons? You have much to learn.
You tell me to back up John.20 28 with other scriptures because we cannot rely on just one passage of Scripture. Well, there are many scriptures in normal Bibles like the New King James, The New American standard, and the Revised Standard Version etc, that say Jesus Christ was and is God incarnate. This biblical truth is supported by every reputable Scholar in the world. These are the verses that have not been altered from their original meaning in the Koine Greek. (5 of 7)
@georgehuddo Doesnt really matter if 1 000 scholars say that Jesus is God, referring to John 20:28. It contradicts the rest of the bible referring to Jesus as the Son. All through the bible its consequent "the Son" not Jesus "the God"
@georgehuddo It is clear that you do not want to understand Gods word at this point in your life, rather you prefer to defend a heathen doctrine enforced by a non-christian emperor 300 yrs after Jesus was killed. I have nothing more to say to you more than I hope that you one day learn about the truth about Jehovah God and his Son and finally want to identify yourself with his people, and praise His holy name that is Jehovah. Good bye. (Micah 4:5;John 17:3; Acts 15:14)
Charles Taze Russell, Rutherford , and Franz, and the Governing body of the Watchtower were all false prophets, and under the leadership of Knorr the no blood transfusion law of the Watchtower society which is murdering even little children, came into effect. What difference is their between your blood law and Herod murdering the children 2 years and under in Bethlehem, and the Israelites sacrificing their children to Molec? Same results huh!
@georgehuddo "keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood" (Acts 15:29) To abstain from blood means to not insert blood in your body in any way, just because we refrain from blood transfusions doesnt mean we dont look for alternative medical treatments. Infact we have hospital committees that collaborate with surgeons and the hospitals. You should read up on medical science. First successful open heart surgery without blood was executed in the early 70's!! (1 of 2)
@Mis4el1973 No Jew would agree with your interpretation of Acts 15:29 The reference is to eating meat with its blood.. Blood transfusions were not on the Menu 2000 years ago when the book of Acts was written. Get Real!!! Murder is still murder though.
@Mis4el1973 There are situations where Men , women , and little Children will die if they don't receive whole blood. How many have died already because of this murderous law of the Watchtower How many Children have been sacrificed as human sacrifices to the commands of your Synagogue of Satan which is the Watchtower Organization
@georgehuddo More and more surgeons look to blood free surgery, because they have discovered that its more risk free for the patient, and the patient recovers far more quicker than those who have had blood transfusion, fact is, blood trans. is often given even if its not necessary!! I've read a few articles about this and know for a fact that @ medicine conferences surgeons visits the booth of Jw's the most to get information about blood free surgery and theyre excited about what they learn!!
Be warned, If you or anyone else trample the Son of God underfoot, and outrage the Holy Ghost, it is a terrible thing to fall into the Hands of the living God. Your Watchtower Organization is built on 130 years of false prophesy of the end times EG: 1874, 1881, 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1942, 1975. (3 of 7)
@georgehuddo There u go again, with yer cheap shots. It is clear to see whos like the accuser we know from the Bible. When u fail to attack me with the bible since it just bounces back on u and bites u in the butt, u try to misscredit me and my brothers and sisters. I could explain every year that u have posted, ur not the first who tried this, but since u probably wont listen to what I have to say, I save the energy and say thank u and good bye. I sincerely hope you find the truth one day.
Jesus called people like you a nest of Vipers, and told them they were of their father the Devil. He also told them they were Hypocrites and white washed Tomb stones. Your Watchtower teachings are at present taking Seven Million people to Eternal Damnation, and you cry like a child because I speak the truth, and challenge you and your antichrist doctrines. (2 of 7)
@georgehuddo LOL? I cry like a child when you speak the truth? Oh, man ur really something. Considering how u conduct urself towards another humans writing in a condescending manner NO WONDER I react to ur mean attitude!! Theres nothing Christlike with your behavior. I have done nothing but proved you wrong from day 1! Verse by verse! I sense you're getting desperate when I only defend myself with the scriptures. U cannot deny what the bible says!
@Mis4el1973 You are supposed to be a witness to the Eternal God Jehovah, but you have been violating the word of Jehovah God and lying to me and the world ever since we began to communicate on You tube This is in turn a violation of Galatians.1:6-9 where Paul says basically says “If you or even an angel from heaven preach another Gospel than the one the apostles preach, may they be (anathama).” or self condemned. (1 of 7)
@georgehuddo Oh my arent u the selfrighteous one? You keep using words like "violating" and lying" as if I was the bad guy. Well heres the truth: 1st: I have not violated anything since I base all my arguments on what the bible teaches and what we have learned in the congregation!! I should know! 2nd: Calling me a liar doesnt help u one bit, since u clearly have failed time after time to defend urself against ur own contradictions!
@georgehuddo Just compare John 20:17 with 20:28. U say Jesus is God according to v. 28. JESUS HIMSELF says that hes ascending to Jehovah HIS God (and our God) to HIS Father (and our Father) i e Jehovah God is not just our God, hes also the God and Father OF Jesus Christ = Jesus Christ cannot be God, because there is only ONE God. Jehovah God and Jesus God would make TWO Gods not ONE God. How's yer math skills? You consider urself as a christian? Study 2 Tim 2:24 and 1 Pe 3:15 very closely! g-bye
@Mis4el1973 You really miss the point don't you! If you study Philippians.2:6-9, until you really understand it properly, then you will be aware what the word "incarnation" really means, and understand why Jesus said these things you speak about. If you can't accept the Holy Scriptures as you say, and put Watchtower teaching above the majesty of God almighty, then the Watchtower Society is your God..
@georgehuddo Yeah of course other "christians" gather together, but claiming that there is any serious bible studying going on is false. Infact many churches dont even use the bible as the foundation for their talks.
FYI: 7,3 million baptized JW's (2011) Watchtower: 42 162 000 cps/188 langs, Awake!: 39 913 000 cps/in 83 langs. Funny how u dig in what CTR did and didnt do for nearly 100 years ago. That he didnt have any official theologic education. Well lemme tell ya, son. Neither did most of Jesus' apostles nor his disciples. (Acts 4:13) BTW why don't you debate against our "devil doctrins"? Cause u cant, it's from God Jehovah!
We're not following CTR, Rutherford or Knorr. We're following Jehovah God!!
@Mis4el1973 You are a Liar. You are all Russellites. Charles Taze Russell is the one you follow. He is your Spiritual Father, and not Jehovah. You say that Jesus is "a god," that is lesser than the Father. In doing this You call Jehovah a liar , when He says "Before Me there was no God, and after Me there will still be none" Like I said, the Father of the Watchtower is the Arian False Prophet, Charles Taze Russell and definitly Not Jehovah God. See 1874 1881 1914 1915 1918
@georgehuddo Oh we're all russellites? Funnycuz since Russells time we've always kept focus on Jehovah. He is not our spiritual father, you're the one lying. Yes Jesus is "a god" that is what the greek scriptures said. You should study that sometime. Jehovah does say "Before me there was no God". Jehovah isn't Jesus though. Jesus clearly separates himself from Jehovah as two different individuals because he prays to Jehovah "May YOUR WILL be done and NOT MINE". 2 different wills, 2 diff persons
@Mis4el1973 You are a liar . The Greek Scriptures in Your Kingdom Interlinear support the Christian Doctrine that Christ was God John.1:1-3, as does John.20:28. Read your Bible !!!
@georgehuddo LOL I have even examined the koine greek, my friend and the grammar clearly states that John 1:1 talks about God and a god. If Jesus was God then John 1:18 would be in direct contradiction to the whole trinity doctrine. I urge YOU to read the bible.
@georgehuddo That can still mean two different persons although mentioned in the same sentence. Like I said earlier: You cannot just rely on ONE SINGLE VERSE in the bible to support your heathen doctrine of trinity. It must be in harmony with the rest of the bible. Who's voice was it that came from the heavens when Jesus was baptized? Was it the voice of Jehovah God or the voice of Jesus? (Matt 3:16)
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God
Note: There is no “a god” in the original Koine Greek Language. You lied again. You said you examined the koine Greek & the Grammar clearly states that John 1:1 talks about God and "a god". You are a Liar like your father the Devil in whom there is no truth
@Mis4el1973 If the Greek word for God (Theos) can be used of Jehovah without a definite article in New Testament passages like Luke 20:38, doesn't this undermine the Watchtower argument that Jesus is a lesser God because the definite article is not used with theos in John.1:1?
@georgehuddo In ur dreams. "Ton theon" is definite form referring to THE God. "Theos" is indefinite form, in other words "a god". Why have both definite and indefinite form in the grammatics if it is the same person? Doesnt make sense and isnt either in harmony with John 1:18 which CLEARLY states along with Exo 33:20 that NO ONE can see Gods face and survive. Period!! Please refrain from writing in a condescending way. I havent done anything to deserve such a disrespectful treatment tyvm.
@Mis4el1973 How do you reconcile Jehovah-Gods statement in Deuteronomy.3 2:39 that “there is no God besides me” ---as well as his statement in Isaiah.45:5 that “Besides Me there is no God”---with the Watchtower’s teaching that there is both a “God almighty” and a “Mighty God”?
@georgehuddo I read my bible, believe you me!!! In John 20:28 you really need to understand the true meaning of why Thomas said that. The grammar is different in koine greek. Thomas actually says "My lord and The God (ho Theos)". Some scholars says that Thomas is reacting in a cry of surprise in front of Jesus but the words was directed to God. Like if u see a friend and react in surprise saying "Oh my God!". Is your friend "God"? Of course not. Just as little as Jesus is THE God he is "a god".
@Mis4el1973 Whom are you trying to Kid sport . What you are saying here that Thomas blasphemed right in front of Jesus and Jesus did not rebuke him but accepted Thomas's declaration that He was his God and Lord. Get real! If Christ accepted what Thomas said when if it was not true, Jesus would have been guilty of sin. Even the angel of Revelations would not accept any form of worship, but warned John. You are quoting Watchtower Arian heresy to your own peril, right out of the book.
@georgehuddo Thomas could have only blasphemed if Jesus was God. Since Thomas cried out in surprise and called upon God before Jesus there was no reason for Jesus to correct Thomas. You might want to study koine greek before you make any assumptions. Jesus himself even told Satan that it is only Jehovah God you should give prayers to. I'm not quoting anything you bigot. Get down from your self-acclaimed piedestal. I study the bible regularly and Im quite capable in making my own conclusions tyvm
You shut up the Kingdom of heaven before men and women for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way to go in. Matt.23:13. In dealing with you Mis4el1973 I find you to be a very dishonest person (a white washed tomb Matt. 23:25-28), and nobody should listen to a word you say. (5 of 5)
@georgehuddo You cant tell me to shut up? What you think of me is only ur own personal opinion. That doesnt change what the Bible really teaches! Jesus refers to Jehovah God as his Father and also points out that his Father is also our Father, and since Jehovah God created us, he must have created Jesus as well as the beginning of his creation which the Bible points out. Examine Prov. 8:22-31 (compare John 17:5); Col 1:15 and Rev. 3:14.
Again you violate the teachings of you own new World translation and your own Kingdom Interlinear of the Greek Scriptures, In regards to John.20:28 where Christ is called God, in an attempt to deceive everybody on this TouTube channel. In doing this it can be well said of you that "You travel the Earth and the Sea to find one proselyte, and when you do find one, you make him or her twice as much a son or daughter of Hell as you are yourself. Matt. 23:14. (4 of 5)
@georgehuddo Making a conclusion that Christ is called God in John 20:28 isnt in harmony with what the rest of the bible teaches! Jesus Christ HIMSELF even refers to Jehovah God as HIS God. And u agree that theres only ONE God then Jesus cannot call Jehovah HIS God and also be God. Are there 2 Gods? NO!! That does not add up!! It is truly dishonest to claim that the Son can be his own Father at the same time! That is not logical! "For God is a God, not of disorder, but of peace." (1 Cor 14:33)
You are also violating the teachings of what your own New World Translation teaches by misquoting it in what Jesus really said to Satan in Luke 4:8. Jesus never told Satan that he should give prayers to God at all. What Jesus said was "It is written, 'It is Jehovah God you should worship, and it is to Him alone you must render sacred service." NWT. (3 of 5)
@georgehuddo An important part of worshipping Jehovah is to pray to him so whats the problem? When you're in sacred service to Jehovah that includes praying. So you should re-think this severly.
Your own Greek Interlinear of the Greek Scriptures and your Own New World Translation of the Bible does not support the garbage you are writing at all. You do not want to see what Scriptures are saying and are trying to make them say what you want them to say. You preach heresy and are in violation of the true Scriptures, and thus stand self condemned according to Galatians.1:6-9. (2 of 4
@georgehuddo Hey! How about toning down on the condescending talk, ok?! Who are you to be disrespectful to another human? Are you a better imperfect human than me or anyone else? No! So tone it down! That is NOT a Christlike behavior to be so disrespectful as you are!! Shame on you! You accuse me without any proof whatsoever, and its obvious that you have no clue. And then on top of that you have the stomach to judge me?! You might want to refresh your memory, read the first part in Matt 7:1-5.
@Mis4el1973 If Thomas did what you say he did, he would have been in violation of the second Commandment, and Jesus would have been sinning for accepting this adoration if He was not in fact Jesus-Jehovah-God. Name the Scholars that support the Satanic rubbish you have been saying on YouTube about John.20:28. You can't name one can you.??? (1 of 4)
@georgehuddo Yes he would have if infact if he was referring to Jesus as God, but since he isnt since Jesus knew that Tomas' exclamation "my God" was referred to Jehovah God not Jesus, again Jesus is consecquently referred to as "the Son" not the God. I dont need to name any "scholars" because the bible speaks its on true words: Jesus is the Son. Not the God. Rest assured Jw arent the only ones who fight the trinity doctrine 1 of 4
@georgehuddo Thomas' confession is an acknowledgment that Jesus had indeed risen from the dead, but it is not a declaration that Jesus is "God the Son". Thomas, a Jew, used a mode of expression common to the OT in which accredited representatives of God are referred to as "God". Angels are called "God" in the following passages: Gen. 16:7 cf. vs. 13; 22:8, 11, 15 cf. vs. 16; Exo 23:20, 21. Moses is referred to as a "god" to Pharaoh. (Exod. 7:1, "god" is translated from the Heb. "elohim") 2 of 4
It is never said of Christ that: ”The word of the Lord came to Him.” The biblical statement, that: ”The Father ”sanctified (or set apart) and sent into the world,” is an expression never used of any merely human messenger of God, and is only used of Christ. Christ is Unique, and is God from God and True Light from True light (Philip.2:6-9), where mere men were only privileged to get a divine message to utter. (3 of 3)
here is however no comparison between Christ and mere men, who were divinely commissioned.
There is in fact a contrast between Christ and all who are merely human representatives of God. One is Jesus: ”Sanctified and sent into the world;” and the other, To who the Word o God (merely) came. (2 of 3)
@georgehuddo "Elohim" translated "God" can refer to the judges of Israel as in Ps 82:1, 6 cf. John 10:34. It is also translated "judges" in Exod. 21:6; 22:8, 9 and "gods" (mg judges) in Exo 22:28. Earlier in chapter 20, Jesus told Mary, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God." (v 17). Since Jesus was to ascend to his God, then clearly he was not himself "Very God" because he cant ascend to himself. 3 of 4
@georgehuddo During the 1st Century, a common greeting among Roman citizens was "Caesar is Lord." Emperor Domitian insisted on the title "Our Lord and God" in public documents, and "My Lord God Domitian" when addressed personally. When Thomas said "My Lord and my God", he didn't mean it in the way Trinitarians wish he does. His confession may have been a declaration of loyalty to God's Son and divine representative; a deliberate rejection of the Roman emperor cult. 4 of 4.
@georgehuddo ...in response to your inquiry about naming "scholars"...What does naming any "scholars" prove? No. cause you can understand Gods word correclty without fancy educations, you need guidance of the holy spirit from Jehovah God. Peter and John was considered as "unlettered and ordinary", they were far from being fancey scholars. Infact throughout the whole bible Jehovah God used fishermen, shepherds, simple and humble people to forward his word. Not fancy-schmancy scholars.
@Mis4el1973 You forget that the apostles knew the Koine Greek language, because it was the language of their day, and Scholars were not needed to translate. They in fact wrote the Scriptures which were inspired by God. Now classical Greek is spoken, and not Koine Greek. We need these Scholars (that you mock) that study the ancient languages, to translate for us Holy Scripture, and warn us when someone like the Watchtower Organization is abusing the Language and its rules
@Mis4el1973 Name the Scholars that are really true Biblical Scholars, who would dare say (to their own peril Gal.1:6-9) that Thomas is" just reacting in a cry of surprise," in John.20:28. I.
You are quoting Watchtower rubbish straight out of the book . You are misquoting your own Kingdom interlinear also. It doesn't say My lord and The God. it says "The Lord of me and the God of me." It never says "Oh my God" as you suggest, which is in violation of the Second Commandment .
@georgehuddo John 20:28 must be in harmony with the rest of the scriptures. U must research! Read John 20:17 Jesus says "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Notice Jesus referring to Jehovah as HIS God aswell as OUR God! @Matt40:42 why pray to himself if hes God? MAKES NO SENSE! Thro out the bible Jesus is referred to as "the Son" not "Jehovah God". If Jesus is God how come hes submissive to God even when in heaven? U cant be lesser and equal at the same time.
@Mis4el1973 Christ was Son of God and Son of Man. Do you understand Philippians .2:6-9. He was the God man. fully God and fully man according to the New World Translation.
@georgehuddo Phi 2:6-9 doesnt prove Jesus was God. You must examine these verses carefully, use many diff. translations to get the full view of what is written. Jesus exists in God’s form but gives no consideration to be equal to God. So "existing in God's form" cant mean that he is God because he in the same sentence denies being equal to God. Like you said: there is only ONE God so when the bible claims Jesus is not equal to God then he cant be God because there arent two Gods but ONE.
The eternal, infinite Form of God took upon Himself Flesh (John 1:1,140 See Sept: Dan 4:36;5:6,9,10. In using Christs Humanity against His Deity, the Jehovah's Witnesses miss the whole Point of Gods Salvation. Many many times the African Bishop, Augustine, used Phillippians.2:6-9 when he debated with the Ulfilian Arian, Maximus. I myself use Phillippians.2:6- with John 20 :28; Colo.2:9 and other verses, when the need be. (4 of 4)
''Huparchon'' involves continuing to be that which one was before. Summing this up what the Scriptures are really saying is that In His incarnation Jesus Christ took upon himself the Form (Morphe) of a servant by taking upon Himself the “Shape” or ''Schema'' of man. The Schema shape or fashion is the outward Form having not only to do with His essential being, but also with His appearance. ( 3 of 4)
As Spiros Zodhiates puts it in 3444, The word ''Morphe'' presumes an obj. reality. No one could be in the “Form” (Morphe) of God who was not God. He who had been in ''morphe Theu'', in the “Form” of God from Eternity John.17:5, took at His incarnation the ''morphen doulou'' the “Form” of a servant when he took on Humanity. The fact that Jesus continued to be God during His state of Humiliation is demonstrated by the Pres.Part. ''Huparchon'' ''being '' in the Form of God. (2 of 4)
Mis4el1973 You Jehovah’s witnesses jump all over Philip.2:6, because you don't understand the Theonthropos (God-Man) Christ, and use His Humanity to attack His Deity. When Augustine fought against the Ulfilian Arians, He used Philippians 2:6, which clearly describes the Incarnation of Christ. "Although Christ (the Logos) existed in the Form of God, He emptied Himself, and was found to be in the “Form” of a servant in the likeness of men. (1 of 4)
@georgehuddo I dont call Jehovah a liar. It is clear that u have got the facts wrong. Why do you insist blaspheming, calling Jesus being Jehovah? The Bible clearly states in Phi 2:6 that Jesus gives no consideration to be equal to Jehovah God? If Jesus isnt equal to God then he cant also be Jehovah God. Simple logics.
@Mis4el1973 You quote Scripture like Satan, and only give us half the story Isaiah 43 :10 also says, " and after me, there continued to be none."
So much for your "a god" theory. It just went down in flames see also Isaiah.44:6-8: 44:24; there goes your theory on Colo.1:16. see also Isaiah 45:5,18,21,22; 46:9; 48:11-13 .
Every time you teach or say or teach that Jesus Christ is "a God" in John.1:1-3; According to the Prophet Issaiah, you Russellites call Jehovah God a liar
@georgehuddo As John 12:41 states Isaiah saw Jehovahs glory not Jesus in a vision. Noone can see Jehovah and survive. Read Jehovahs own words in Exo 33:20. John 12:38 mentions "the arm of Jehovah" as in Jesus being the one working closest to Jehovah, not being Jehovah himself. You need to study and understand the scriptures, not arbitrarily yank verses out of context to support a heathen doctrine like the trinity, which btw was inserted 325 C.E by a heathen roman emperor who wasnt a christian.
@Mis4el1973Zechariah 2.8-13, is clear prophesy of the First & Second Advent of Christ. The Watchtowers own New World Translation is telling all the Jehovah's Witnesses, That #1 JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE FATHER) IS SENDING #2 JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE MESSIAH JESUS CHRIS)T to dwell amongst His people. His possession will be the tribe of Judah, & His choice will be Jerusalem, the City named after God. Thomas as was right when he called Christ "The God of me & The Lord of me!" Check it out!
@georgehuddo Ur dogmatic ranting doesnt prove anything. When u look up a person in the phone book u need to know the name right? Do u use Gods name when u talk to him when you pray? If not your prayers are in vain. When u talk to people about God do you teach them his real name? Bible teaches us that “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” Those who uses Gods name and identifies themselves with his holy name are the ones who will be saved. Read Micah 4:1-5 and Romans 10:13-15
@Mis4el1973 The name Jehovah is recognized by the Christian Churches. It is not exclusive just to the Watchtower. God's name is actually YHWH. Because of you Arian heretic's, and followers of your Father Charles Taze Russell and his murdering Synagogue of Satan. The Gentiles curse the Name of the living God.
@georgehuddo Yeah how come they have excluded Gods name from the scriptures where YHWH is in the scripture? U keep babbling... "arian heretics" u talk crap my friend.
@georgehuddo HOW is Jehovahs name reckognized in churches? They dont use it in their teachings? And how about u show us some proof of ur accusations? How are we murderers? NEVER in my 20 yrs of Jw exp. have I EVER been taught to pray or worship Russell as a "Father". All our education in the Kingdom Hall is solely focused on Jehovah God. Again ur ranting doesnt prove anything but that ur prejudiced, condescending and hateful. Did Jesus teach u to hate other people? U show no love. (Joh 13:35)
like the New American Standard or the New King James. I also I recommend that they Log On to the “Outlines of Theology A.A.Hodges,” and also “The Abstracts of Systematic Theology by James P.Boyce.” Both of these works are easy to read, and are “Free” on YouTube and will show you verse, upon verse, the truth of what Jehovah God is really saying to you personally. Shalom. georgehuddo. (7 of 7)
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Can any of you here who are teaching immortality of the sould and the trinity please tell me how it is that you are teaching 2 doctrines that are both of pagan origin? The funny thing about it is that the verbage that you use to explain both of these doctrines are identical to the wording used by the pagans to explain theirs. Yahoo search "origin of the trinity" and click "from paganism to Constantine" and yahoo search "origin of immortality of the soul" and click on "immortal soul. SHOCKING!!!
badwingduck1 3 days ago
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@georgehuddo Im not runnin away rest assured. Thro 20 yrs experience I know when its time to end a fruitless discussion. Its not constructive to be condescending towards ppl who dont think the same way u do. And since u cannot refrain from being disrespectful and rude although I asked u nicely, I end this conversation. Read John 13:35, Gal 5:22, 23; 1 Pe 3:15 and 1 John 4:7-20, meditate over the profound wisdom within these verses. I really hope you find the truth one day. Good bye, Sir.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 The verses you present speak about loving our brothers in the faith. Only you are not my brother, because you preach Heresy. It is well spoken of you when the scriptures say "You travel the earth and the sea, to find one proselyte, and when you do find one, you make him twice as much a son of of Hell than you are yourself." Matt.23;13-15. Because of your stiff necked heretical dogma, children are dying, and 6-7 million people are going to be damned forever.in Gehenna.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
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Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Every body knows that the Father is THE GOD. The Watchtowers Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures (under the Greek language) clearly tells us that The Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit are also THE GOD in John 20:28 and acts 5:3,4. The "DEFINITE ARTICLE is used in both of these passages, so it is clear that the three persons are THE ONE GOD in TRINITY, because there is only ONE GOD, AND THERE IS NO OTHER Isaiah 43:10; 44:6;45:21 46:9.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Did you know that the founder of the Jehovahs witnesses Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd degree Mason? And the 1st Kingdom hall had an Egyptian Pagan symbol above the front door? later removed! The new world transations is another way of saying New World Order! His tomb stone is a Pyramid! All religion was created to controll man! The world is partly held back in the bronze ages by people who still believe in Magic!
look4urself 4 months ago
Well John clearly says in the book of revelation whoever takes anything out of the book of life shall not goto heaven n even people who adds into the bible shall not go into heaven that's what JW do they take things away from the bible.
Pretend u are in a court case where u can only say yes or no these lawyer might say did you hit ur wife you will say no but they will go oh so u used to hit her that's what JW are good at they try to put u in a corner so at the end u follow them that's what the
Lukey0915 5 months ago
Sad that this guy doesn't realize his denomination and all the denominations of Christianity are equally as corrupt and equally as distant from Jesus Christ's teachings as one another.
cmfernandez9283 6 months ago
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@cmfernandez9283 Thank you.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
BereanBeacon1 6 months ago
To all Atheists “Man is deemed to die once then comes judgment.” Heb.9:27. After the body you have now is resurrected, Death & Hades are thrown into Gehenna the Lake of Fire with Satan the Beast & the False Prophet. If your name is not written in the book of life, you too will be thrown alive into Gehenna. Death as we know it has gone & you can’t die again & will burn alive in sulphur & brimstone day & night forever. Rev.20:10-15 Thus says the Scriptures which cannot be broken
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@cmfernandez9283 All have sinned and fall shor tof the Glory of God, and that includes you! There is only one who has not sinned, and that is why "By Grace we are saved. Praise God huh!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
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GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON.Jesus said he's God's Son-Matthew 3:17,Mark 9:7,Psalms 2:7,Luke 9:35,Prov.8:22.DEMONS,expelled said he's Son of God-Luke 4:41.Matt.8:29, Mark3:11.Others said he's Son-John1:14,49,3:17,5:18,36,6:46,10:36,Mark15:39,Matthew 26:63,27:40. Hebrews10:29,4:14.An angel said he's Son-Luke1:35.Jehovah God is Jesus' God-John15:1,16:3,30,20:17, Matt.26:26,36-44,64,Mark15:34,Ephesians1:17.Son=Mediator-1Timothy 2:5,Heb.1:3,4,8:6,9:15,12:24, Romans1:4,8,9,Acts7:55,56.
eternityandforever 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 LAY OFF THE CRACK ROCK...how would you know if I do or do not go to church. and you think an internet test will het you in to heaven, than you sir are spiritually dead.!
bobblehead1909 7 months ago
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@bobblehead1909 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:43,44
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 just wana know what makes you say this.? i mean, you've never talked to me or even seen me.
bobblehead1909 7 months ago
@bobblehead1909 If you don't have the free gift of God by faith in Jesus Christ, then you are indeed dead spiritually, according to the Bible. This applies to everyone as well.
Are you good enough for heaven?
The Good Test - h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=7JiESHIYIJg
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 you are a complete retard!!!
also a simpleton and pathetic moron..
also an ignorant twat.. dont respond you poor excuse of a sentient being...
faustus999 7 months ago
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@faustus999 You cannot understand because you are spiritually dead and love darkness.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon I'm spirituality dead.?
bobblehead1909 7 months ago
@bobblehead1909 Without the free gift of God, all are spiritually dead.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in he latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1Tomothy 4:1,2
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@llandon77 naw, tham they'll only tell you want you wana hear
bobblehead1909 7 months ago
If you wana Lear about JW ASK THEM. don't watch this video, its all twisted
bobblehead1909 8 months ago
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@bobblehead1909 You cannot understand because you are spiritually dead and love darkness.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Well said B.B. Pity it came down as Spam
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@bobblehead1909 or even better ask an ex jw, at least they will tell you the truth.
llandod77 7 months ago
@llandod77 That will be the day!!!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Jehovah only reveals the light to those who's heart is righteous.
chivo23rd 9 months ago 2
@chivo23rd Are you talking about Christendom again???
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Who have been preaching the "good news of the kingdom ... in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations" up to today? (Matt 24:14)
Who is following Jesus' command? (Matt 28:19, 20)
You see... what you're missing is that all JW's study the bible too. We don't just sit there in our congregation and blindfolded believe in everything. And another thing! We didn't need to go to a certain amount of houses to be saved then and not now either, thats preposterous!
Mis4el1973 9 months ago
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@Mis4el1973 You cannot understand because you are spiritually dead and love darkness.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
You are then required fill out a time sheet. If you fall away with this "Look Out". With work and looking after family, and shopping and things like that, where do you find the time to do do an in-depth study of the Bible? If you did find the time to read the Bible, and not all that other rubbish, you would have known that Christ is True God from True God, and True Light from True Light, in fact Your own new World Translation says He is Jehovah Jesus. (2 of 2)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 In regards to Matt 24:14 the answer is, the Christian Churches. In regards to Matt. 28:19,20, the answer is, the Christian Churches. You are required to read two Watchtowers and two Awakes a month, and answer the questions in them as well as other publications of the Watchtower. You are also required to attend Kingdom Hall three times a week, and are also required to go door to door for a set period of time (approx 30 hours a month) (1 of 2)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Matt 24:14 and 28:19, 20 doesnt refer to any churches, since they dont actually TEACH about Gods kingdom or J.C's commandments. Were recommended to attend to Kingdom Hall meetings according to Hebr 10:24, 25. Thats where we gather to encourage eachother and study Gods word! Wego door to door because we want to, noot because were required to. We dont need to go 30 hr/month unless ur a helping pioneer. U need to get ur facts straight Mr. Vomiting prejudiced claims doesnt help ur cause
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
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georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Christians also gather together, at their place. The people are the Church and the people who are the Church gather together to study Gods Word together, pray and sing and give praise God. They also give help to those in need, such as widows and orphans and those that ask for help, even you if you asked. Denomination is not a condition of receiving help. Our ministry is one to one on, in the Word as we witness to others to the Glory of God. So what is your beef ????
georgehuddo 1 month ago
yet your Organization calls on the support of Johannes Greber an ex Catholic priest turned Spiritist to support their rendering of John.I:1. They also claim support from Archbishop Newcomb’s translation of the Bible after the Thos Belsham a Unitarian, changed John1;1 to read that the Word was “a god” from the Word “was God”, after Newcombe died. How can your mob call on support of John.1:1 from sources like those.? (7 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Johannes Grebers translation of John 1:1 has got nothing to do with spiritism. About the other fella Newcomb I've never heard of, but then again it doesnt matter since our understanding of the scripture doesnt lie on only 2 persons translations. So sorry. There is yet to be explained from your part how "ton theon" and "theos" can be the same God, since theos is in indefinite form as the way u explain "a god" and "ton theon" definite form, used to define Jehovah God as the only God.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
Spirit mediums are to be stoned to death.Leviticus.20:27. People who follow Spirit Mediums, like your Organization and its Governing Body are detestable in Gods eyes. Deuteronomy 18:11 This being so, how can Gods so called Theocratic Organization violate these Commandments if they are truly God's Organization. See: Leviticus.19:31 1Sam.28:3; 2Kings.21:6; 23.24; Isaiah. 19:3; 29:4,and Rev. 22:15; (3 of 3)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo We dont follow spirit mediums. Again you make accusations based on fragments of truth to fit your prejudices and preconceptions. You cannot prove that we are following a spirit medium just because it simply isnt true. How about making an honest research instead of just using bits and pieces to make it look like we had dishonest motives? That is very dishonest of you and not a Christlike behavior. Again and again you show through your actions that youre not a true christian.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
I sincerely say to all you Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Save yourselves,, and abandon this Watchtower society who is, (1) a Worldwide False Prophet, who’s end time prophesies failed in; 1873, 1881, 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1942, and 1975”. (2) You also need to abandon this Watchtower Society and their Governing Body, who teach the Doctrines of Johannes Greber and his wife,who was also a medium. (3) You also need to abandon the Society over blood, lest ye murder your Children (6 of 6)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
I have easily proven that the Watchtower Society is definitely not Gods Organization and cannot be, because they quote the Doctrines of the Spirit Mediums Johannes Greber .and his wife Elizabeth, which in turn were given to them, by the demons, in large lettering before their very eyes. These doctrines of the demons given to Johannes Greber and his wife Elizabeth, fight against Jehovah , His Majesty,His Word , His Eternal Son , and the person of His Holy Spirit,etc (5 of 6)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
You cannot be partaking of the “table of Jehovah “and the demons at the same time 1st Cor.10:21. Satan is the father of liars, and the Prince of the demons. Luke.11:15. What harmony is there between Christ and Belial 2nd Cor 6:15? Belial is a term from Hebrew used to designate Satan who is the personification of wickedness and evil. (4 of 6)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Greber the Spirit Medium goes on to say: (8) The Christian Church of today is not preaching the Gospel.p.426. (9) The Bible is not inspired or dependable. (The New Testament by Johannas Greber. P,15.). Every one of these doctrines are identical with the Doctrines of the Watchtower Organization To all those who receive the spiritual food of demons from the Watchtower, hear this! You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons. (3 of 6)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Greber’s demons spoke through Him and taught these doctrines: (1) Jesus Christ is not God. p.330 (2) Jehovah only is God. p. 331,333,328,302. (3) Christ is a created being.p.301. (4) That Christ’s body was not resurrected.p.385. (5) The body of Jesus was dematerialised.p.385. (6) There is no eternal Hell P.379. (7) The Higher powers of Romans 13 are not the earthy Governments. p.414,415. (2 of 6)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 I have researched the Arian Cult of the Watchtower for a long time, and have collected a lot of information about this Synagogue of Satan, the Watchtower. And in fair comment I say that: Your Doctrines of the watchtower Bible and tract society are exactly the same as Johannes Greber’s Doctrines of demons. According to Grebers books (Communications with the Spirit World), and his Translation of the New Testament, as given to Him by the Spirits. (1 of 6)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Watchtower called on the support of Johannes Greber to support their rendering of John.1:1. Greber was an ex Catholic priest who married Elizabeth. Both He and his wife were Spirit Mediums and translated the Gospels with the help of the Spirits. The Scriptures forbid people to consult with Spirit Mediums. " Do not consult with spirit mediums lest ye be defiled by them."Leviticus 19:31. (2 of 3)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo The translation of Johannes Greber was only used on a few sporadic occasions to give support to how the words in Matt 27:52, 53 and John 1:1 had been translated in NW and other authoritative translations. When it came to Watchtower's knowledge that he and his wife was spirit mediums they immediately distanced from them, we're not solely dependent on his translation. You must take the whole situation under consideration and not just use bits n pieces that fits ur prejudiced mind.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 No Greek Scholar would agree with your explanation of John .!:1. You cannot use the indefinite article in John 1:1 just to suit your heretical viewpoint. (1 of 3)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Then ask the greek scholar why they write god in indefinite form "theos" and in definite form "ton theon". You see... in all languages you do not make differences between the same person by first defining them and then undefining them. Because God is defined in the first form, as in a definite form it clearly shows that the other godform is lesser because he is presented in an indefinite form as a lesser god, "a god". We have also got scholars, fluent in koine greek so...
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 If you have scholars, what are their names, or are they obscure, people who are just made up. You say "because Christ is presented in an indefinite form as a lesser God, He is "a god". In saying this you have Just blasphemed against Jehovah, by calling Him a liar, when he says "there is no God before me neither will there be any after me" Isa.43:10. Those who blaspheme God, with their mouths or the written word, are damned to Gehenna for eternity.Rev.20:10,15. NWT.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Those who know the Greek language and its grammar say you cannot use an indefinite article to change the true meaning of John 1;1-3. The language does not allow it..The Watchtower Bible The New World Translation was written by faceless men, because The Organization refuse to say who they are because no reputable Greek or Hebrew Scholar will support this corrupted version. To all Jehovah's Witnesses open up the New King James,or the New American Standard, and read. .
georgehuddo 1 month ago
They are Matt. 1:23; John 1:1; 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8. They all say that Jesus Christ was and is and will always be God. You say don’t judge, but you and your organization the Watchtower have been calling the God loving people of the Christian churches the “Whore of Babylon” forever and a day,and you & your Organization teach that the Christian churches are of Satan, (6 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo We don't call other churches "whore of Babylon", the Bible does with explanations to how these churches would behave. For one: having intimate relationship with politics, governments etc. Thats just 1 of the reasons that puts the majority of todays "christian" churches on the chopping block. They themselves have put them there. Not us. (1 of 2)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Liar!!!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Rom 9:5 also literally interpreted to fit the babylonian trinity doctrine. Again here u need to understand the translation correctly. What seems to be a proof of Jesus being God contradicts the rest of the bible. Just read the letters of Paul for instance! Rom 15:6 "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ". This single scripture alone tells us that Jehovah God is God and Father of J.C and with this in mind Jesus Christ cannot be God of himself, that is extremly contradictory!
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Compare Titus 1:4 with Titus 2:13. Both verses clearly separates God Jehovah from Jesus Christ. They are always mentioned as two different individuals. Also the mere fact that Jesus prayed to Jehovah God tells us that they cannot be the same person. Why would Jesus pray to himself? There is no reason. He could have just woken Lazarus up without praying to himself. It does not make any perfect sense what so ever! Its insane! Titus 2:13 clearly separates God from Jesus Christ.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 In Titus.2:13 Who's coming were they waiting for? If it is Christ's, Then Christ is Jesus Jehovah. No one can gaze upon the face of the Father, can they?
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo In Titus 2:13 theyre waiting for Jehovah... AND a second person: Jesus. U must examine these verses in the light of what the rest of the bible says. Not just rely on a few verses and neglect what the rest of the bible teaches us. That is just plain dishonest. The Bible refers to Jesus as "the Son" never does the bible say that Jesus is God. This has thoroughly been explained to you. If u cannot see it, then I guess we have to agree on disagreeing.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 where does Scripture specifically say that two people are coming. According to the angels in acts1:11,12. It is only Jesus who is coming. The Father won't be coming , because all who see his face will die, because no human being can look upon His face and live,
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 It would be treason against Almighty God for me to agree on disagreeing with you on Titus 2:13 or any other Holy Scripture of the Word of God. You are a Christ Fighter and a fighter of the Holy Spirit as was Arius.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 No it doesn't Titus 2;13 clearly declares Christ to be God and Savior. The Watchtower society has corrupted this verse in the New World Translation to hide that fact.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo About Hebrews 1:8, there's also a classic misinterpretation to fit the trinity doctrine. Have you made any kind of researching of where the trinity originates from? I can tell you: Triune gods was very common in Babylon. Have you ever considered that the jews only acknowledge ONE God, not THREE? Jesus was a jew, and he only acknowledged ONE God: Jehovah. He never ever referred to himself as God, he always focused his teachings on Jehovah, not on himself. (1 of 2)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 You are certainly finding a lot wrong with Gods word. Who is in error here, you or Jehovah? The Scriptures say is Jehovah not a God of Confusion, so It is you who is confused!!!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo You see... a few scriptures cannot support a doctrine when they are in contradiction to the rest of the Bible. Just examine Rom 15:6; 2 Cor 1:3; Eph 1:3, 17 and 1 Pe 1:3. They all refer to Jehovah God as "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" which is in perfect harmony with what J.C himself said to Mary in John 20:17 "‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God."
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Do you notice how Christ keeps himself separate from Mary. He didn't say "our" God because his position with His father is not the same as her's or anybody else's, because His relationship with His Father was unique as was no other, because He was the Eternal Son of God ( Micah.5:2 ) who became incarnate ( Philippians.2:6-9) to save that which was lost. IE: You and me!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo John 20:17 perfectly explains that Jesus is ascending to the God and Father of both Jesus and ours = Jesus is not God. "I am ascending to MY Father and YOUR Father and to MY God and YOUR God". You see? He is saying that the same God and Father we pray to is also the God and Father that Jesus prayed to. And since there is ONLY ONE God then Jesus cannot be God! Dont forget to study about Jesus being the firstborn of all creation, i e the first thing that Jehovah created was: Jesus.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 The Koine Greek Scholars tell me that the word ‘’Firstborn’’ in the Greek language does not in any way say that the Logos Jesus Christ was a created being. If He was a created being, the writer of Colo1:15-16 (the highly educated Paul) would have used the word ‘’PROTOKTISIS’’ instead of ‘’PROTOTOKOS’’ Why then would the Governing Body deceive people by telling them that the word PROTOTOKOS means that Christ was created when it doesn’t? Why do they lie about this?
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 You Jehovah's Witnesses always pitch Christ's Humanity against His Deity because you don't want to understand the Incarnate Christ of Philippians 2:6-9 to your own peril. You ignore Scriptures like Zechariah.2:8-13, & John 12:41 with Isaiah 6:1 because you don't want to accept the truth of Scripture that Jesus is God from God who became incarnate to save humanity, & destroy the works of Satan Sin & Death.You believe Watchtower doctrine over your own Bible. Get real !!!!!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo We do not deny Christs deity as "a god". We deny that he is God. Phi 2:6-9 explains that Jesus although he was existing in God's form (i e being the highest created living being) had no thoughts about making himself equal to God. That is what Phi 2:6-9 explains. Jesus also says in Matt 26:39 that "Yet, not as I will, but as you will." Jesus' prayer would be unnecessary if he was infact Jehovah God. He obeys Jehovahs will instead of pushing for his own will = Jesus is not God. 1 of 2
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Believe you me, we do NOT ignore scriptures. That is such a false accusation!! Apropå Zechariah 2:8-13 and John 12:41 = He saw Jehovahs GLORY in a VISION, not Jehovah HIMSELF. When you miss a detail like that in the scriptures it is no wonder you struggle to understand what Gods word actually is teaching. I urge you to pray to Jehovah for guidance with his holy spirit so that also you can understand Gods word in a more profound way. (1 of 2)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Zechariah 2.8-13, is clear prophesy of the First & Second Advent of Christ. The Watchtowers own New World Translation is telling all the Jehovah's Witnesses, That JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE FATHER) IS SENDING JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE MESSIAH JESUS CHRIS)T to dwell amongst His people. His possession will be the tribe of Judah, & His choice will be Jerusalem, the City named after God. Thomas as was right when he called Christ "The God of me and The Lord of me. Check it out!l.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Zechariah.2:8-13 is clear Messianic Prophesy, where Jehovah the Father sends (1) Jehovah the Eternal Son (Micah.5:2), who is also Jehovah of Armies in the First & Second Advents. On another separate occasion, Isaiah saw Jehovah Jesus sitting on His Throne (John12:41 with Isaiah 6:1). If you say Isaiah.6:1 is only a vision, & not really Jehovah Jesus, then by your rules of reasoning, can you be saying the same about the 144000, & other passages in the Book of Revelations?
georgehuddo 1 month ago
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In His humanity he called His father His God, but His relationship with His Father was unique and like no other. That is why he kept himself apart by saying My Father and your Father, and not "our Father" My God, and your God, and not "our God" when He spoke to Mary Magdalene, and the others. It is Treason to Jehovah God and His Word, if you accept Christ’s Humanity , and not His Deity. Shalom. (2 of 2)
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Besides being God from God and True God from True God, Jesus Christ was also a man born of the Virgin, in the line of King David, and Fathered by God. Luke.1;26-38 He was the Incarnate “Emmanuel, God with us.” Matthew.1:23. He was Jehovah sent by Jehovah, in the First Advent and is Jesus Jehovah of Armies who will also be sent by Jehovah of armies the Father in the Second Advent.Zech.2:8-13. Christ was fully man and fully God, according to Philippians,2:6-9. (1 of 2)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Do u let media and other ppl shape ur thoughts or do u make ur own researches? Cuz considering ur answers so far, u have very little knowledge about what is really going on in our congregations, our organization and whatnot. It is clear to see that u let other ppl think for u. How about establishing ur own personal opinion, based on balanced facts rather than basing it on prejudices & destructive gossip that only have one purpose to misscredit other persons? You have much to learn.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
You tell me to back up John.20 28 with other scriptures because we cannot rely on just one passage of Scripture. Well, there are many scriptures in normal Bibles like the New King James, The New American standard, and the Revised Standard Version etc, that say Jesus Christ was and is God incarnate. This biblical truth is supported by every reputable Scholar in the world. These are the verses that have not been altered from their original meaning in the Koine Greek. (5 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Doesnt really matter if 1 000 scholars say that Jesus is God, referring to John 20:28. It contradicts the rest of the bible referring to Jesus as the Son. All through the bible its consequent "the Son" not Jesus "the God"
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo It is clear that you do not want to understand Gods word at this point in your life, rather you prefer to defend a heathen doctrine enforced by a non-christian emperor 300 yrs after Jesus was killed. I have nothing more to say to you more than I hope that you one day learn about the truth about Jehovah God and his Son and finally want to identify yourself with his people, and praise His holy name that is Jehovah. Good bye. (Micah 4:5;John 17:3; Acts 15:14)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
Charles Taze Russell, Rutherford , and Franz, and the Governing body of the Watchtower were all false prophets, and under the leadership of Knorr the no blood transfusion law of the Watchtower society which is murdering even little children, came into effect. What difference is their between your blood law and Herod murdering the children 2 years and under in Bethlehem, and the Israelites sacrificing their children to Molec? Same results huh!
(4 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo "keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood" (Acts 15:29) To abstain from blood means to not insert blood in your body in any way, just because we refrain from blood transfusions doesnt mean we dont look for alternative medical treatments. Infact we have hospital committees that collaborate with surgeons and the hospitals. You should read up on medical science. First successful open heart surgery without blood was executed in the early 70's!! (1 of 2)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 No Jew would agree with your interpretation of Acts 15:29 The reference is to eating meat with its blood.. Blood transfusions were not on the Menu 2000 years ago when the book of Acts was written. Get Real!!! Murder is still murder though.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 There are situations where Men , women , and little Children will die if they don't receive whole blood. How many have died already because of this murderous law of the Watchtower How many Children have been sacrificed as human sacrifices to the commands of your Synagogue of Satan which is the Watchtower Organization
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo More and more surgeons look to blood free surgery, because they have discovered that its more risk free for the patient, and the patient recovers far more quicker than those who have had blood transfusion, fact is, blood trans. is often given even if its not necessary!! I've read a few articles about this and know for a fact that @ medicine conferences surgeons visits the booth of Jw's the most to get information about blood free surgery and theyre excited about what they learn!!
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
Be warned, If you or anyone else trample the Son of God underfoot, and outrage the Holy Ghost, it is a terrible thing to fall into the Hands of the living God. Your Watchtower Organization is built on 130 years of false prophesy of the end times EG: 1874, 1881, 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1942, 1975. (3 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo There u go again, with yer cheap shots. It is clear to see whos like the accuser we know from the Bible. When u fail to attack me with the bible since it just bounces back on u and bites u in the butt, u try to misscredit me and my brothers and sisters. I could explain every year that u have posted, ur not the first who tried this, but since u probably wont listen to what I have to say, I save the energy and say thank u and good bye. I sincerely hope you find the truth one day.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
Jesus called people like you a nest of Vipers, and told them they were of their father the Devil. He also told them they were Hypocrites and white washed Tomb stones. Your Watchtower teachings are at present taking Seven Million people to Eternal Damnation, and you cry like a child because I speak the truth, and challenge you and your antichrist doctrines. (2 of 7)
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georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo LOL? I cry like a child when you speak the truth? Oh, man ur really something. Considering how u conduct urself towards another humans writing in a condescending manner NO WONDER I react to ur mean attitude!! Theres nothing Christlike with your behavior. I have done nothing but proved you wrong from day 1! Verse by verse! I sense you're getting desperate when I only defend myself with the scriptures. U cannot deny what the bible says!
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
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@Mis4el1973 You are supposed to be a witness to the Eternal God Jehovah, but you have been violating the word of Jehovah God and lying to me and the world ever since we began to communicate on You tube This is in turn a violation of Galatians.1:6-9 where Paul says basically says “If you or even an angel from heaven preach another Gospel than the one the apostles preach, may they be (anathama).” or self condemned. (1 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Oh my arent u the selfrighteous one? You keep using words like "violating" and lying" as if I was the bad guy. Well heres the truth: 1st: I have not violated anything since I base all my arguments on what the bible teaches and what we have learned in the congregation!! I should know! 2nd: Calling me a liar doesnt help u one bit, since u clearly have failed time after time to defend urself against ur own contradictions!
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Just compare John 20:17 with 20:28. U say Jesus is God according to v. 28. JESUS HIMSELF says that hes ascending to Jehovah HIS God (and our God) to HIS Father (and our Father) i e Jehovah God is not just our God, hes also the God and Father OF Jesus Christ = Jesus Christ cannot be God, because there is only ONE God. Jehovah God and Jesus God would make TWO Gods not ONE God. How's yer math skills? You consider urself as a christian? Study 2 Tim 2:24 and 1 Pe 3:15 very closely! g-bye
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 You really miss the point don't you! If you study Philippians.2:6-9, until you really understand it properly, then you will be aware what the word "incarnation" really means, and understand why Jesus said these things you speak about. If you can't accept the Holy Scriptures as you say, and put Watchtower teaching above the majesty of God almighty, then the Watchtower Society is your God..
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Yeah of course other "christians" gather together, but claiming that there is any serious bible studying going on is false. Infact many churches dont even use the bible as the foundation for their talks.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
FYI: 7,3 million baptized JW's (2011) Watchtower: 42 162 000 cps/188 langs, Awake!: 39 913 000 cps/in 83 langs. Funny how u dig in what CTR did and didnt do for nearly 100 years ago. That he didnt have any official theologic education. Well lemme tell ya, son. Neither did most of Jesus' apostles nor his disciples. (Acts 4:13) BTW why don't you debate against our "devil doctrins"? Cause u cant, it's from God Jehovah!
We're not following CTR, Rutherford or Knorr. We're following Jehovah God!!
Mis4el1973 9 months ago
@Mis4el1973 You are a Liar. You are all Russellites. Charles Taze Russell is the one you follow. He is your Spiritual Father, and not Jehovah. You say that Jesus is "a god," that is lesser than the Father. In doing this You call Jehovah a liar , when He says "Before Me there was no God, and after Me there will still be none" Like I said, the Father of the Watchtower is the Arian False Prophet, Charles Taze Russell and definitly Not Jehovah God. See 1874 1881 1914 1915 1918
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Oh we're all russellites? Funnycuz since Russells time we've always kept focus on Jehovah. He is not our spiritual father, you're the one lying. Yes Jesus is "a god" that is what the greek scriptures said. You should study that sometime. Jehovah does say "Before me there was no God". Jehovah isn't Jesus though. Jesus clearly separates himself from Jehovah as two different individuals because he prays to Jehovah "May YOUR WILL be done and NOT MINE". 2 different wills, 2 diff persons
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 You are a liar . The Greek Scriptures in Your Kingdom Interlinear support the Christian Doctrine that Christ was God John.1:1-3, as does John.20:28. Read your Bible !!!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo LOL I have even examined the koine greek, my friend and the grammar clearly states that John 1:1 talks about God and a god. If Jesus was God then John 1:18 would be in direct contradiction to the whole trinity doctrine. I urge YOU to read the bible.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
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@Mis4el1973 John 20:28 The Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures
ἀπεκρίθη Θωμᾶς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ• ὁ κύριος μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου.
Answered Thomas and he said to him The Lord of me and the God of me
For your information and dealing. George
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo That can still mean two different persons although mentioned in the same sentence. Like I said earlier: You cannot just rely on ONE SINGLE VERSE in the bible to support your heathen doctrine of trinity. It must be in harmony with the rest of the bible. Who's voice was it that came from the heavens when Jesus was baptized? Was it the voice of Jehovah God or the voice of Jesus? (Matt 3:16)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 John 1:1. Greek Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God
Note: There is no “a god” in the original Koine Greek Language. You lied again. You said you examined the koine Greek & the Grammar clearly states that John 1:1 talks about God and "a god". You are a Liar like your father the Devil in whom there is no truth
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Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 If the Greek word for God (Theos) can be used of Jehovah without a definite article in New Testament passages like Luke 20:38, doesn't this undermine the Watchtower argument that Jesus is a lesser God because the definite article is not used with theos in John.1:1?
georgehuddo 1 month ago
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@georgehuddo In ur dreams. "Ton theon" is definite form referring to THE God. "Theos" is indefinite form, in other words "a god". Why have both definite and indefinite form in the grammatics if it is the same person? Doesnt make sense and isnt either in harmony with John 1:18 which CLEARLY states along with Exo 33:20 that NO ONE can see Gods face and survive. Period!! Please refrain from writing in a condescending way. I havent done anything to deserve such a disrespectful treatment tyvm.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 How do you reconcile Jehovah-Gods statement in Deuteronomy.3 2:39 that “there is no God besides me” ---as well as his statement in Isaiah.45:5 that “Besides Me there is no God”---with the Watchtower’s teaching that there is both a “God almighty” and a “Mighty God”?
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo I read my bible, believe you me!!! In John 20:28 you really need to understand the true meaning of why Thomas said that. The grammar is different in koine greek. Thomas actually says "My lord and The God (ho Theos)". Some scholars says that Thomas is reacting in a cry of surprise in front of Jesus but the words was directed to God. Like if u see a friend and react in surprise saying "Oh my God!". Is your friend "God"? Of course not. Just as little as Jesus is THE God he is "a god".
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Whom are you trying to Kid sport . What you are saying here that Thomas blasphemed right in front of Jesus and Jesus did not rebuke him but accepted Thomas's declaration that He was his God and Lord. Get real! If Christ accepted what Thomas said when if it was not true, Jesus would have been guilty of sin. Even the angel of Revelations would not accept any form of worship, but warned John. You are quoting Watchtower Arian heresy to your own peril, right out of the book.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Thomas could have only blasphemed if Jesus was God. Since Thomas cried out in surprise and called upon God before Jesus there was no reason for Jesus to correct Thomas. You might want to study koine greek before you make any assumptions. Jesus himself even told Satan that it is only Jehovah God you should give prayers to. I'm not quoting anything you bigot. Get down from your self-acclaimed piedestal. I study the bible regularly and Im quite capable in making my own conclusions tyvm
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
You shut up the Kingdom of heaven before men and women for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way to go in. Matt.23:13. In dealing with you Mis4el1973 I find you to be a very dishonest person (a white washed tomb Matt. 23:25-28), and nobody should listen to a word you say. (5 of 5)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo You cant tell me to shut up? What you think of me is only ur own personal opinion. That doesnt change what the Bible really teaches! Jesus refers to Jehovah God as his Father and also points out that his Father is also our Father, and since Jehovah God created us, he must have created Jesus as well as the beginning of his creation which the Bible points out. Examine Prov. 8:22-31 (compare John 17:5); Col 1:15 and Rev. 3:14.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
Again you violate the teachings of you own new World translation and your own Kingdom Interlinear of the Greek Scriptures, In regards to John.20:28 where Christ is called God, in an attempt to deceive everybody on this TouTube channel. In doing this it can be well said of you that "You travel the Earth and the Sea to find one proselyte, and when you do find one, you make him or her twice as much a son or daughter of Hell as you are yourself. Matt. 23:14. (4 of 5)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Making a conclusion that Christ is called God in John 20:28 isnt in harmony with what the rest of the bible teaches! Jesus Christ HIMSELF even refers to Jehovah God as HIS God. And u agree that theres only ONE God then Jesus cannot call Jehovah HIS God and also be God. Are there 2 Gods? NO!! That does not add up!! It is truly dishonest to claim that the Son can be his own Father at the same time! That is not logical! "For God is a God, not of disorder, but of peace." (1 Cor 14:33)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
You are also violating the teachings of what your own New World Translation teaches by misquoting it in what Jesus really said to Satan in Luke 4:8. Jesus never told Satan that he should give prayers to God at all. What Jesus said was "It is written, 'It is Jehovah God you should worship, and it is to Him alone you must render sacred service." NWT. (3 of 5)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo An important part of worshipping Jehovah is to pray to him so whats the problem? When you're in sacred service to Jehovah that includes praying. So you should re-think this severly.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
Your own Greek Interlinear of the Greek Scriptures and your Own New World Translation of the Bible does not support the garbage you are writing at all. You do not want to see what Scriptures are saying and are trying to make them say what you want them to say. You preach heresy and are in violation of the true Scriptures, and thus stand self condemned according to Galatians.1:6-9. (2 of 4
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Hey! How about toning down on the condescending talk, ok?! Who are you to be disrespectful to another human? Are you a better imperfect human than me or anyone else? No! So tone it down! That is NOT a Christlike behavior to be so disrespectful as you are!! Shame on you! You accuse me without any proof whatsoever, and its obvious that you have no clue. And then on top of that you have the stomach to judge me?! You might want to refresh your memory, read the first part in Matt 7:1-5.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 If Thomas did what you say he did, he would have been in violation of the second Commandment, and Jesus would have been sinning for accepting this adoration if He was not in fact Jesus-Jehovah-God. Name the Scholars that support the Satanic rubbish you have been saying on YouTube about John.20:28. You can't name one can you.??? (1 of 4)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
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Mis4el1973 1 month ago
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@georgehuddo Yes he would have if infact if he was referring to Jesus as God, but since he isnt since Jesus knew that Tomas' exclamation "my God" was referred to Jehovah God not Jesus, again Jesus is consecquently referred to as "the Son" not the God. I dont need to name any "scholars" because the bible speaks its on true words: Jesus is the Son. Not the God. Rest assured Jw arent the only ones who fight the trinity doctrine 1 of 4
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Thomas' confession is an acknowledgment that Jesus had indeed risen from the dead, but it is not a declaration that Jesus is "God the Son". Thomas, a Jew, used a mode of expression common to the OT in which accredited representatives of God are referred to as "God". Angels are called "God" in the following passages: Gen. 16:7 cf. vs. 13; 22:8, 11, 15 cf. vs. 16; Exo 23:20, 21. Moses is referred to as a "god" to Pharaoh. (Exod. 7:1, "god" is translated from the Heb. "elohim") 2 of 4
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
It is never said of Christ that: ”The word of the Lord came to Him.” The biblical statement, that: ”The Father ”sanctified (or set apart) and sent into the world,” is an expression never used of any merely human messenger of God, and is only used of Christ. Christ is Unique, and is God from God and True Light from True light (Philip.2:6-9), where mere men were only privileged to get a divine message to utter. (3 of 3)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
here is however no comparison between Christ and mere men, who were divinely commissioned.
There is in fact a contrast between Christ and all who are merely human representatives of God. One is Jesus: ”Sanctified and sent into the world;” and the other, To who the Word o God (merely) came. (2 of 3)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Scripture calls Men god’s to whom the Word of God came
‘’Ye are Gods” John 10:33.
Being the official representatives and commissioned agents of God, The Scriptures called them gods to whom the word of God came. (1of 3)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo "Elohim" translated "God" can refer to the judges of Israel as in Ps 82:1, 6 cf. John 10:34. It is also translated "judges" in Exod. 21:6; 22:8, 9 and "gods" (mg judges) in Exo 22:28. Earlier in chapter 20, Jesus told Mary, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God." (v 17). Since Jesus was to ascend to his God, then clearly he was not himself "Very God" because he cant ascend to himself. 3 of 4
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
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@georgehuddo During the 1st Century, a common greeting among Roman citizens was "Caesar is Lord." Emperor Domitian insisted on the title "Our Lord and God" in public documents, and "My Lord God Domitian" when addressed personally. When Thomas said "My Lord and my God", he didn't mean it in the way Trinitarians wish he does. His confession may have been a declaration of loyalty to God's Son and divine representative; a deliberate rejection of the Roman emperor cult. 4 of 4.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo ...in response to your inquiry about naming "scholars"...What does naming any "scholars" prove? No. cause you can understand Gods word correclty without fancy educations, you need guidance of the holy spirit from Jehovah God. Peter and John was considered as "unlettered and ordinary", they were far from being fancey scholars. Infact throughout the whole bible Jehovah God used fishermen, shepherds, simple and humble people to forward his word. Not fancy-schmancy scholars.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 You forget that the apostles knew the Koine Greek language, because it was the language of their day, and Scholars were not needed to translate. They in fact wrote the Scriptures which were inspired by God. Now classical Greek is spoken, and not Koine Greek. We need these Scholars (that you mock) that study the ancient languages, to translate for us Holy Scripture, and warn us when someone like the Watchtower Organization is abusing the Language and its rules
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Name the Scholars that are really true Biblical Scholars, who would dare say (to their own peril Gal.1:6-9) that Thomas is" just reacting in a cry of surprise," in John.20:28. I.
You are quoting Watchtower rubbish straight out of the book . You are misquoting your own Kingdom interlinear also. It doesn't say My lord and The God. it says "The Lord of me and the God of me." It never says "Oh my God" as you suggest, which is in violation of the Second Commandment .
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo And please... dont call me a liar. Why arent you respectful towards fellow man? Are you judging me? Read Matt 7:1-5
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo John 20:28 must be in harmony with the rest of the scriptures. U must research! Read John 20:17 Jesus says "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Notice Jesus referring to Jehovah as HIS God aswell as OUR God! @Matt 40:42 why pray to himself if hes God? MAKES NO SENSE! Thro out the bible Jesus is referred to as "the Son" not "Jehovah God". If Jesus is God how come hes submissive to God even when in heaven? U cant be lesser and equal at the same time.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Christ was Son of God and Son of Man. Do you understand Philippians .2:6-9. He was the God man. fully God and fully man according to the New World Translation.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Phi 2:6-9 doesnt prove Jesus was God. You must examine these verses carefully, use many diff. translations to get the full view of what is written. Jesus exists in God’s form but gives no consideration to be equal to God. So "existing in God's form" cant mean that he is God because he in the same sentence denies being equal to God. Like you said: there is only ONE God so when the bible claims Jesus is not equal to God then he cant be God because there arent two Gods but ONE.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
The eternal, infinite Form of God took upon Himself Flesh (John 1:1,140 See Sept: Dan 4:36;5:6,9,10. In using Christs Humanity against His Deity, the Jehovah's Witnesses miss the whole Point of Gods Salvation. Many many times the African Bishop, Augustine, used Phillippians.2:6-9 when he debated with the Ulfilian Arian, Maximus. I myself use Phillippians.2:6- with John 20 :28; Colo.2:9 and other verses, when the need be. (4 of 4)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
''Huparchon'' involves continuing to be that which one was before. Summing this up what the Scriptures are really saying is that In His incarnation Jesus Christ took upon himself the Form (Morphe) of a servant by taking upon Himself the “Shape” or ''Schema'' of man. The Schema shape or fashion is the outward Form having not only to do with His essential being, but also with His appearance. ( 3 of 4)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
As Spiros Zodhiates puts it in 3444, The word ''Morphe'' presumes an obj. reality. No one could be in the “Form” (Morphe) of God who was not God. He who had been in ''morphe Theu'', in the “Form” of God from Eternity John.17:5, took at His incarnation the ''morphen doulou'' the “Form” of a servant when he took on Humanity. The fact that Jesus continued to be God during His state of Humiliation is demonstrated by the Pres.Part. ''Huparchon'' ''being '' in the Form of God. (2 of 4)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
Mis4el1973 You Jehovah’s witnesses jump all over Philip.2:6, because you don't understand the Theonthropos (God-Man) Christ, and use His Humanity to attack His Deity. When Augustine fought against the Ulfilian Arians, He used Philippians 2:6, which clearly describes the Incarnation of Christ. "Although Christ (the Logos) existed in the Form of God, He emptied Himself, and was found to be in the “Form” of a servant in the likeness of men. (1 of 4)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Why do you insist on calling Jehovah a liar?????????????
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo I dont call Jehovah a liar. It is clear that u have got the facts wrong. Why do you insist blaspheming, calling Jesus being Jehovah? The Bible clearly states in Phi 2:6 that Jesus gives no consideration to be equal to Jehovah God? If Jesus isnt equal to God then he cant also be Jehovah God. Simple logics.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Jesus is JEHOVAH.see John12:41 with Isaiah 6:1. Just as He is THE GOD and THE LORD see John.20:28.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
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Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 You quote Scripture like Satan, and only give us half the story Isaiah 43 :10 also says, " and after me, there continued to be none."
So much for your "a god" theory. It just went down in flames see also Isaiah.44:6-8: 44:24; there goes your theory on Colo.1:16. see also Isaiah 45:5,18,21,22; 46:9; 48:11-13 .
Every time you teach or say or teach that Jesus Christ is "a God" in John.1:1-3; According to the Prophet Issaiah, you Russellites call Jehovah God a liar
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo As John 12:41 states Isaiah saw Jehovahs glory not Jesus in a vision. Noone can see Jehovah and survive. Read Jehovahs own words in Exo 33:20. John 12:38 mentions "the arm of Jehovah" as in Jesus being the one working closest to Jehovah, not being Jehovah himself. You need to study and understand the scriptures, not arbitrarily yank verses out of context to support a heathen doctrine like the trinity, which btw was inserted 325 C.E by a heathen roman emperor who wasnt a christian.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
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@Mis4el1973Zechariah 2.8-13, is clear prophesy of the First & Second Advent of Christ. The Watchtowers own New World Translation is telling all the Jehovah's Witnesses, That #1 JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE FATHER) IS SENDING #2 JEHOVAH OF ARMIES (THE MESSIAH JESUS CHRIS)T to dwell amongst His people. His possession will be the tribe of Judah, & His choice will be Jerusalem, the City named after God. Thomas as was right when he called Christ "The God of me & The Lord of me!" Check it out!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 Your own New World Translation does not support your Watchtower Doctrines!
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Ur dogmatic ranting doesnt prove anything. When u look up a person in the phone book u need to know the name right? Do u use Gods name when u talk to him when you pray? If not your prayers are in vain. When u talk to people about God do you teach them his real name? Bible teaches us that “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” Those who uses Gods name and identifies themselves with his holy name are the ones who will be saved. Read Micah 4:1-5 and Romans 10:13-15
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@Mis4el1973 The name Jehovah is recognized by the Christian Churches. It is not exclusive just to the Watchtower. God's name is actually YHWH. Because of you Arian heretic's, and followers of your Father Charles Taze Russell and his murdering Synagogue of Satan. The Gentiles curse the Name of the living God.
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Yeah how come they have excluded Gods name from the scriptures where YHWH is in the scripture? U keep babbling... "arian heretics" u talk crap my friend.
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
@georgehuddo HOW is Jehovahs name reckognized in churches? They dont use it in their teachings? And how about u show us some proof of ur accusations? How are we murderers? NEVER in my 20 yrs of Jw exp. have I EVER been taught to pray or worship Russell as a "Father". All our education in the Kingdom Hall is solely focused on Jehovah God. Again ur ranting doesnt prove anything but that ur prejudiced, condescending and hateful. Did Jesus teach u to hate other people? U show no love. (Joh 13:35)
Mis4el1973 1 month ago
like the New American Standard or the New King James. I also I recommend that they Log On to the “Outlines of Theology A.A.Hodges,” and also “The Abstracts of Systematic Theology by James P.Boyce.” Both of these works are easy to read, and are “Free” on YouTube and will show you verse, upon verse, the truth of what Jehovah God is really saying to you personally. Shalom. georgehuddo. (7 of 7)
georgehuddo 1 month ago
@georgehuddo Dont even try