So do you believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit or not, regardless if they were being used incorrectly or not on this video? Same activity was happening in the church of Corinth, but the people were still part of the body of Christ, the church.
@Tenorforte Yes I do believe in the Gifts of the Holy Ghost but not as defined by pentecostals. The bible tells us "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control" Gal 5:22-23
Are any of these being practiced? I was raised pentecostal and our services would frequently get out of control. Especially when there was a "campana" where several churches in the area would get together.
And may I strengthen your message by quoting a words of apostle Paul from 1 Cor 11: 1-16, "...every woman pray or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head."
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because OF THE ANGELS." May the Lord bless us with obedience.
Cool. I have dealt with the charismatic/pentecostal delusion many times and it is one of the biggest things Satan has been decieving the church since the 60's. Its got to stop!!! its pagan worship and occultic in origin anyway.
wow,,, this song brings back memories.. great video.. after studying the word of God.. became aware this is something that should not be practiced in church.....
So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified.
But i agree that speaking in tongues itself and the pentacostal movement is out of control. It's turned into a business and one statement said. 'when a Body turns into a business, doesn't that make it a prostitute? When God's people are turned into a money machine for whatever reason, to me that is wrong and needs to be addressed. Our church has to pay money pa to use specific songs for our worship services and to me that is greed. Church music is meant to worship God, not to make pple rich.
Cont..Does I Cor 11 mean that all women should have their head covered in church, but churches dont do that. How come? And the verses in I Cor 14 26- talks says 'each of you' has a psalm, a teaching... If 'anyone' speaks in a tongue does not specifically refer to men and v 34 refers to chittery women during the service. If this were so, why did the Holy Spirit counsel Catherine Booth (Salvation Army) to get up an preach for that seems to contradict that passage too. Study her story.
It is one thing for Catherine Booth to claim God told her to preach and another thing to prove it. She was a holiness preacher who believed in perfectionism. That is NOTof God. Whenever experience contradicts the word of God, guess which one is tossed out!
When the godless king of England was forcing Anglican bishops into the Scotch Presbyterian Church, one godly old woman got up and tossed the milking stool she was sitting on at the rascal. No sermon preached. That was sermon enough:) GBU
I totally agree that carrying on like a bunch of loonies here is not scrpturial, However, I just want to clarify one verse though not many people will understand and criticise me for taking verses out of context. I have compared scriptures with scripture here. If you read the entire passage about women not speaking in church, it was to do with Paul's concern about chattery women talking during the service, not teaching or speaking because it would contradict I Cor 11:5.
Well, I'm sorry if you base your bliefs on an experience, but I base mine on the Word of God. You have no way of knowing if He acually spoke in tongues either. Anyone can fake it or get taken over with emotion. Suggestion and peer pressure is very powerful!
The whole argument about the apostles at Pentecost is such an abuse of Scripture. That was a ONE-TIME operation of the Holy Spirit. Where, in this video (or any other "tongues" experience) do the people hearing the speaker hear the person IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE? They don't. Therefore, that event cannot be used as a "proof-text" for tongues!
there are two tongues one for edifrying the church with a interputer. and one for spirit baptism of the Holy Ghost private. where the Holy Spirit fell onto all who were in the Upper room spoke in tongues in one accord on the day of pentecost in the book of Acts.
Speaking in tongues during pentecost was a sign for the Jews. A judgment upon those who did not understand the tongues. This is a reference to the old testament when the Israelites would hear the tongue of a foreign nation coming to take them over. For the Jews who did not understand the tongues, it was a judgement upon them. This gift is not for everyone. The Spirirt Baptism of the Holy Ghost is not where you speak in tongues, that's bogus charismatic doctrine.
TJ this bit about 2 types of tongues is standard Pentecosta propaganda. The Apostolics also teach that if you don't speak in tongues you don't have the Holy Ghost and can't be saved. NONE of that is scriptural. The tongues on the day of Pentecost were all recognizable by people and not mindless babbling.
So do you believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit or not, regardless if they were being used incorrectly or not on this video? Same activity was happening in the church of Corinth, but the people were still part of the body of Christ, the church.
Tenorforte 9 months ago
@Tenorforte Yes I do believe in the Gifts of the Holy Ghost but not as defined by pentecostals. The bible tells us "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control" Gal 5:22-23
Are any of these being practiced? I was raised pentecostal and our services would frequently get out of control. Especially when there was a "campana" where several churches in the area would get together.
October31st1517 9 months ago
Good job!
And may I strengthen your message by quoting a words of apostle Paul from 1 Cor 11: 1-16, "...every woman pray or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head."
"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because OF THE ANGELS." May the Lord bless us with obedience.
shibakim 1 year ago
Cool. I have dealt with the charismatic/pentecostal delusion many times and it is one of the biggest things Satan has been decieving the church since the 60's. Its got to stop!!! its pagan worship and occultic in origin anyway.
MaharlikaAWA 1 year ago
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@MaharlikaAWA THEM FAGGOTS LIKE YOU ARE CHlLDMOLESTERS. YOU FUCKEN HOMO.
Iadyboy 1 year ago
wow,,, this song brings back memories.. great video.. after studying the word of God.. became aware this is something that should not be practiced in church.....
alonsojobs 1 year ago
"Hello Mr. Pentecostal. Please let me introduce you to Acts 2:6, the most overlooked verse in your tongue-speaking army." :-)
MultimediaJay 2 years ago
Great Video!! You are right on point with it!
KungFuRico 2 years ago
Best video yet. The charismatics have no argument against it.
lcamp1977 2 years ago
1 Cor 14:15-17
So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified.
rachelbinto 2 years ago
speaking in tongues is cool !
cordovaduck 2 years ago
i like it when they make barnyard noises.
4096x 2 years ago
No contaban con mi astucia! Ahora, quien podra ayudarlos!
unicoestilo 2 years ago
LOL Hermano. I miss you.
October31st1517 2 years ago
haha eso, eso, eso, eso, eso...i like el chavo del ocho's song lol
Sanctum85 2 years ago
The Pentecostal church I go to is not like that seen here. Sadly, some pentecostal churches are way over the top and give the rest a bad name.
Shazoolo 2 years ago
Glad not all Pentacostal churches are like that.
gneisenau321 2 years ago
Man, that was something else...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure I heard Gizmo from the movie Gremlins in the background. I didn't know that speaking "mogwai" was a gift of the Spirit.
Anakrino 2 years ago
But i agree that speaking in tongues itself and the pentacostal movement is out of control. It's turned into a business and one statement said. 'when a Body turns into a business, doesn't that make it a prostitute? When God's people are turned into a money machine for whatever reason, to me that is wrong and needs to be addressed. Our church has to pay money pa to use specific songs for our worship services and to me that is greed. Church music is meant to worship God, not to make pple rich.
Roopalmer 2 years ago
Cont..Does I Cor 11 mean that all women should have their head covered in church, but churches dont do that. How come? And the verses in I Cor 14 26- talks says 'each of you' has a psalm, a teaching... If 'anyone' speaks in a tongue does not specifically refer to men and v 34 refers to chittery women during the service. If this were so, why did the Holy Spirit counsel Catherine Booth (Salvation Army) to get up an preach for that seems to contradict that passage too. Study her story.
Roopalmer 2 years ago
It is one thing for Catherine Booth to claim God told her to preach and another thing to prove it. She was a holiness preacher who believed in perfectionism. That is NOTof God. Whenever experience contradicts the word of God, guess which one is tossed out!
When the godless king of England was forcing Anglican bishops into the Scotch Presbyterian Church, one godly old woman got up and tossed the milking stool she was sitting on at the rascal. No sermon preached. That was sermon enough:) GBU
Blogrich55 2 years ago
I totally agree that carrying on like a bunch of loonies here is not scrpturial, However, I just want to clarify one verse though not many people will understand and criticise me for taking verses out of context. I have compared scriptures with scripture here. If you read the entire passage about women not speaking in church, it was to do with Paul's concern about chattery women talking during the service, not teaching or speaking because it would contradict I Cor 11:5.
Roopalmer 2 years ago
It would be funny if were not so sad.
21crosscheck21 2 years ago
Well, I'm sorry if you base your bliefs on an experience, but I base mine on the Word of God. You have no way of knowing if He acually spoke in tongues either. Anyone can fake it or get taken over with emotion. Suggestion and peer pressure is very powerful!
SovereignShepherd 2 years ago
The whole argument about the apostles at Pentecost is such an abuse of Scripture. That was a ONE-TIME operation of the Holy Spirit. Where, in this video (or any other "tongues" experience) do the people hearing the speaker hear the person IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE? They don't. Therefore, that event cannot be used as a "proof-text" for tongues!
fourpointer 2 years ago
lol where do you get your music??
zkueker88 2 years ago 3
lol the music fits the meeting
FaithandReasons 2 years ago 4
there are two tongues one for edifrying the church with a interputer. and one for spirit baptism of the Holy Ghost private. where the Holy Spirit fell onto all who were in the Upper room spoke in tongues in one accord on the day of pentecost in the book of Acts.
In Jesus name God Bless
Truthorfable 2 years ago
Speaking in tongues during pentecost was a sign for the Jews. A judgment upon those who did not understand the tongues. This is a reference to the old testament when the Israelites would hear the tongue of a foreign nation coming to take them over. For the Jews who did not understand the tongues, it was a judgement upon them. This gift is not for everyone. The Spirirt Baptism of the Holy Ghost is not where you speak in tongues, that's bogus charismatic doctrine.
SovereignShepherd 2 years ago
TJ this bit about 2 types of tongues is standard Pentecosta propaganda. The Apostolics also teach that if you don't speak in tongues you don't have the Holy Ghost and can't be saved. NONE of that is scriptural. The tongues on the day of Pentecost were all recognizable by people and not mindless babbling.
Blogrich55 2 years ago
Hey Mark,
I am going to obey 1 Corinthians 14:34 here - OK. *giggle*
I might just sin in my mirth. LOL
Afrikitty 2 years ago