I would have to agree with everyone else on this. Loved the filming, but I was disappointed by the changed lines. It probably would have been better if you kept it the way they were. I believe a wife finding out her husband is a homosexual can be far more powerful than him cheating with another woman.
You guys that was so awesome. The only thing I can say is read Mamet's "On the Art of Filmmaking." It's all about simplicity. Your film was so solid and the actors so good, you didn't need the tricks--the flash of the pills, the weird camera angles or replays--the film was much more moving without them, when you just let the scene unravel. Plus I loved the set, with the swishy bathroom curtain.
she is really, really talented. it's so hard to make a scene, a character your own, especially after an (amazing phenomenal) actress has played the role. she makes me so uncomfortable in this scene i can't look away...
...yeah...so...please - if you happen to do an edit of this, DON'T change Kushner's lines. they are perfect the way he has them. the way you have them makes Harper seem much too "in control" in the first half of the scene. which she isn't. she takes control later. she's much too desperate to be using such heightened language as "goddamnit, i said not the fucking job."
also, Joe: respond to Harper. don't yell unless she gives you a reason. remember, you're tired. you want to go to bed.
Really nice colours and camera work going on here. A lot edgier than the original and I like it. However I agree, the line changes were a tad clunky - somehow they lost their original poetry. I really didn't like the change from 'homo' to 'fucking'. In my opinion the girl playing Harper was far too violent for someone on valium, and too shouty for what the lines are conveying. Otherwise, just wow so impressive.
Great job! I especially like the way it was filmed. (Scenic design/Sound/Editing/etc) The ONLY thing that I was turned off by was the changing of the lines. Kushner did a great job writing this piece. Not broke? Don't fix it. However, everything else was AWESOME!!
And I disagree w/ bathwater2007 about the acting being poor and the actors show more hate than love. In this particular scene, it's a little hard to show any romance/love between the two. Harper is delusional & Joe is in denial.
I think its thought to adapt theatre to the screen, the dialog just doesnt always seem to work as well. You guys pulled it off and it worked quite well. Nice pacing and nice edits.
I didnt dig the sound design, felt mismatch from the start to the end.
The guy is pretty good. He has a natural way of moving that looks... well, natural. Haha. The girl... well she seems to be over acting and her emotions don't seem to come from anywhere. Hm.
wow she's hopeless cuz she took to much pills she cant listen to wat her husband is sayin he speaking the truth he cares for her but all she does is ruin it for him anywayz good video
wow she's hopeless cuz she took to much pills she cant listen to wat her husband is sayin he speaking the truth he cares for her but all she does is ruin it for him anywayz good video
yea....you should probably not change the text to the script exspecially since Mr. Kushner is known to like his lines said word for word from the script. I attend a conservatory for Musical Theatre and i have done this scene for my acting class and the acting in this is very poorly done. Harper and Joe LOVE each other. Here, all i see is hate. And the girl should NOT try and act like Mary Louise Parker, it's not a good look on her. Joe and Harper love each other! They don't hate each other!
jeff jeff jeff. first off, if youre going to do a scene from a well known publication like tony kushner then i dont suggest you change the text. period. dont adapt it. the editing was eh... ive seen better from you. it appeared shaky. why? why is harper not deranged. change the actress. she was bad. too dramatic from the start.
Wow. This youtube crowd is a tough audience. I thought the direction, set and editing was very good. The actors are good. He was more understated than she and did not push as hard, therefore, more believable. They both did a good job, however. This isn't HBO, people. It's a midterm project. Congrats to everyone involved.
Thank you so much! It means a lot when people recognize good work. Not only that but read the description of the video. MIDTERM PROJECT.... the assignment was to alter the scene. Thank you "saminnyc" for your kind smart words.
An interesting reimagining of a popular scene. It's popularity makes it hard to be objective without knowing what the assignment was. Good acting but the cursing seems to be a way for the actor to explore her impulses and at times it feels pushed. Would there be value in keeping her impulses but not cursing? Also, why repeat, replay, and voiceover shots? Strangely, the actors' clothes and behavior seems to be unaffected by where they are. Perhaps this was part of the assignment?
I thought that this was a interesting way to go with the script. You changed it in a few places but that just made it better fit the situation that you were working with. I really liked the set though it kind of looked like a horror movie instead of a intimate space. The acting was pretty good for college actors and i thought the directing was great! Good Job!
I love the direction and the set is amazing. But it's a strange transition. Krushner's work is original and different from mainstream. The religion and sexuality are a major part of his pieces and this had become just another piece of drama about adultery and the misery of marriage. The dialogue doesn't suit the atmosphere it's too dramatic without the original concept. Also the actors are poor
This is so terrible. You destroyed the literary and artistic merit of this script. Harper is mormon, she doesn't cuss. And Joe is GAY not sleeping with someone else. Their house isn't dirty or messy, just unpainted. The actors are bad and obviously ACTING, not being. During the "not the job!" scene, if you scream the whole time harper, its not as scary when you scream "shut up." I did this scene for a film camp and we did a better job. And Im in high school.
Don't be so sure "Amysenia" It takes alot of insecurity and ignorance of a person to judge like you have. Maybe expand your mind a bit, and see the metaphors that are shown throughout this film. You've said you have done this scene before? Please, film it and then post it here on YouTube. Then we will see if you have any room to criticize the actors and production team. In high school? Well well, so much for you to learn, good luck!
Harper is a Jack Mormon which means so doesnt follow the church teaching as close as others. You would know this if you actually knew anything about mormons or the play. Mormons are not supposed to curse, true. But mormons are not supposed to get addicted to valium which she has. I would think a little bit harder before you start to judge.
Thank you guys for your support. I guess not everyone has a keen eye for films, nor do they appreciate or respect the efforts that go in to them. georgephantom, FACE1556, crazziii, cavri caprice, LilMsDiva4u , you guys rock!
GabGabGab33 it was obviously the directors choice to make it different from the film. If it wasn't different it would be a copy not a recreation or an alteration. And who are you to judge talent!?!?!?
you guys are talentless actors and you made their house dirty which is weird cuz he's a rich law clerk. YOU ARE STUPID...and you shied away from gay themes because you are worthless and cowardly
I like the different take on this...amazing play by Tony Kushner. Sure, it's a great project for a film school, and I completely understand why you made "Joe" a cheating husband instead. A little more cursing as well, but it makes it powerful because you have a different pace in this little film. It's great.
I am sorry you feel this way, Yes it was part of an assignment so that is why it turned out the way it did. We had to alter a scene from a film and thats what they the director chose. Glad you liked it...
i don't understand the reason behind heterosexualizing this scene. i guess if it was part of an assignment it makes a certain amount of sense but in the larger scheme of the play there is a rhetorical normalizing that is taking place and hence the meaning of the play is completely lost...this makes me sad.
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Quayz183 1 year ago
I would have to agree with everyone else on this. Loved the filming, but I was disappointed by the changed lines. It probably would have been better if you kept it the way they were. I believe a wife finding out her husband is a homosexual can be far more powerful than him cheating with another woman.
honestlyfunnayx3 1 year ago
You guys that was so awesome. The only thing I can say is read Mamet's "On the Art of Filmmaking." It's all about simplicity. Your film was so solid and the actors so good, you didn't need the tricks--the flash of the pills, the weird camera angles or replays--the film was much more moving without them, when you just let the scene unravel. Plus I loved the set, with the swishy bathroom curtain.
cheese12101210 2 years ago
she is really, really talented. it's so hard to make a scene, a character your own, especially after an (amazing phenomenal) actress has played the role. she makes me so uncomfortable in this scene i can't look away...
mickey19695 3 years ago
I agree. She's amazing.
wasteland70 2 years ago
i will, however, definitely compliment you all on your photography here. you've made very nice choices there.
josh2l 3 years ago
wait.
sorry, hadn't realized you altered the lines to create a whole new scene. (first comment came from watching just the beginning.)
hm. well, i suppose with the different situation (heterosexual cheating), different language would be appropriate.
but i'm still not convinced by the level of simple shouting going on the whole time. remember: this is film. subtlety is appreciated.
i'll apologize if any of this is coming off as heartless - my criticism comes from sheer love of this scene.
josh2l 3 years ago 2
...yeah...so...please - if you happen to do an edit of this, DON'T change Kushner's lines. they are perfect the way he has them. the way you have them makes Harper seem much too "in control" in the first half of the scene. which she isn't. she takes control later. she's much too desperate to be using such heightened language as "goddamnit, i said not the fucking job."
also, Joe: respond to Harper. don't yell unless she gives you a reason. remember, you're tired. you want to go to bed.
josh2l 3 years ago 2
Nice job. Film acting ain't easy. I just posted that scene I did from a few months back in my acting class.
vvblues 3 years ago
Really nice colours and camera work going on here. A lot edgier than the original and I like it. However I agree, the line changes were a tad clunky - somehow they lost their original poetry. I really didn't like the change from 'homo' to 'fucking'. In my opinion the girl playing Harper was far too violent for someone on valium, and too shouty for what the lines are conveying. Otherwise, just wow so impressive.
kingblasphemous 3 years ago 5
Great job! I especially like the way it was filmed. (Scenic design/Sound/Editing/etc) The ONLY thing that I was turned off by was the changing of the lines. Kushner did a great job writing this piece. Not broke? Don't fix it. However, everything else was AWESOME!!
And I disagree w/ bathwater2007 about the acting being poor and the actors show more hate than love. In this particular scene, it's a little hard to show any romance/love between the two. Harper is delusional & Joe is in denial.
Fayme20 3 years ago 2
Nice film.
I think its thought to adapt theatre to the screen, the dialog just doesnt always seem to work as well. You guys pulled it off and it worked quite well. Nice pacing and nice edits.
I didnt dig the sound design, felt mismatch from the start to the end.
Thanks for sharing...
PoisonBeef 3 years ago
The guy is pretty good. He has a natural way of moving that looks... well, natural. Haha. The girl... well she seems to be over acting and her emotions don't seem to come from anywhere. Hm.
DreamApnea 3 years ago 2
I did not like it. it seems like they are trying to convince themselves on the lines they are reading. sounds totally fake.
maritza10temo 3 years ago
Wow that was really something special. Keep up the good work!
lilmzdance5678 3 years ago
Thank you so much!
seasonproductions 3 years ago
wow she's hopeless cuz she took to much pills she cant listen to wat her husband is sayin he speaking the truth he cares for her but all she does is ruin it for him anywayz good video
xxdescendentangelxx 3 years ago
wow she's hopeless cuz she took to much pills she cant listen to wat her husband is sayin he speaking the truth he cares for her but all she does is ruin it for him anywayz good video
xxdescendentangelxx 3 years ago
yea....you should probably not change the text to the script exspecially since Mr. Kushner is known to like his lines said word for word from the script. I attend a conservatory for Musical Theatre and i have done this scene for my acting class and the acting in this is very poorly done. Harper and Joe LOVE each other. Here, all i see is hate. And the girl should NOT try and act like Mary Louise Parker, it's not a good look on her. Joe and Harper love each other! They don't hate each other!
bathwater2007 3 years ago 3
jeff jeff jeff. first off, if youre going to do a scene from a well known publication like tony kushner then i dont suggest you change the text. period. dont adapt it. the editing was eh... ive seen better from you. it appeared shaky. why? why is harper not deranged. change the actress. she was bad. too dramatic from the start.
aaronwilliams50 4 years ago 3
Wow. This youtube crowd is a tough audience. I thought the direction, set and editing was very good. The actors are good. He was more understated than she and did not push as hard, therefore, more believable. They both did a good job, however. This isn't HBO, people. It's a midterm project. Congrats to everyone involved.
saminnyc 4 years ago 2
Thank you so much! It means a lot when people recognize good work. Not only that but read the description of the video. MIDTERM PROJECT.... the assignment was to alter the scene. Thank you "saminnyc" for your kind smart words.
seasonproductions 3 years ago
you should do other famous scenes from angels in america.
freethinker17 4 years ago
very, very good.
freethinker17 4 years ago
Not bad at all! Way better than other videos of this scene I've scene.
puffy1632 4 years ago
An interesting reimagining of a popular scene. It's popularity makes it hard to be objective without knowing what the assignment was. Good acting but the cursing seems to be a way for the actor to explore her impulses and at times it feels pushed. Would there be value in keeping her impulses but not cursing? Also, why repeat, replay, and voiceover shots? Strangely, the actors' clothes and behavior seems to be unaffected by where they are. Perhaps this was part of the assignment?
jopiano 4 years ago
the filming is good but the acting is exaggerated
usseryroad 4 years ago
it's Nine Inch Nails...I think it works, it didn't make it emo at all....
SandraNazz 4 years ago
I thought that this was a interesting way to go with the script. You changed it in a few places but that just made it better fit the situation that you were working with. I really liked the set though it kind of looked like a horror movie instead of a intimate space. The acting was pretty good for college actors and i thought the directing was great! Good Job!
harrypotterfan18 4 years ago
I love the direction and the set is amazing. But it's a strange transition. Krushner's work is original and different from mainstream. The religion and sexuality are a major part of his pieces and this had become just another piece of drama about adultery and the misery of marriage. The dialogue doesn't suit the atmosphere it's too dramatic without the original concept. Also the actors are poor
jonathanjoey 4 years ago
This is so terrible. You destroyed the literary and artistic merit of this script. Harper is mormon, she doesn't cuss. And Joe is GAY not sleeping with someone else. Their house isn't dirty or messy, just unpainted. The actors are bad and obviously ACTING, not being. During the "not the job!" scene, if you scream the whole time harper, its not as scary when you scream "shut up." I did this scene for a film camp and we did a better job. And Im in high school.
amysenia 4 years ago
Don't be so sure "Amysenia" It takes alot of insecurity and ignorance of a person to judge like you have. Maybe expand your mind a bit, and see the metaphors that are shown throughout this film. You've said you have done this scene before? Please, film it and then post it here on YouTube. Then we will see if you have any room to criticize the actors and production team. In high school? Well well, so much for you to learn, good luck!
FACE1556 4 years ago
Harper is a Jack Mormon which means so doesnt follow the church teaching as close as others. You would know this if you actually knew anything about mormons or the play. Mormons are not supposed to curse, true. But mormons are not supposed to get addicted to valium which she has. I would think a little bit harder before you start to judge.
harrypotterfan18 4 years ago
Why is the house a Mess? I'm so confused.
Kplusk1 4 years ago
this is so good! great job!
phillieboy 4 years ago
Thank you guys for your support. I guess not everyone has a keen eye for films, nor do they appreciate or respect the efforts that go in to them. georgephantom, FACE1556, crazziii, cavri caprice, LilMsDiva4u , you guys rock!
seasonproductions 4 years ago
opps. didnt watch it all the way through. my apologies.
georgephantom 4 years ago
I dont think the directors shy away from the gay themes. in the original script it's that way too. the actors portray it well.
georgephantom 4 years ago
Thank you crazziii! Perfect way to put it!!
FACE1556 4 years ago
GabGabGab33 it was obviously the directors choice to make it different from the film. If it wasn't different it would be a copy not a recreation or an alteration. And who are you to judge talent!?!?!?
crazziii 4 years ago
you guys are talentless actors and you made their house dirty which is weird cuz he's a rich law clerk. YOU ARE STUPID...and you shied away from gay themes because you are worthless and cowardly
GabGabGab33 4 years ago
this sucks ass
GabGabGab33 4 years ago
I like the different take on this...amazing play by Tony Kushner. Sure, it's a great project for a film school, and I completely understand why you made "Joe" a cheating husband instead. A little more cursing as well, but it makes it powerful because you have a different pace in this little film. It's great.
CavriCaprice 4 years ago
This film is done very well....I just hate the fact that it isn't about homosexuality anymore. That actress was really good as well.
LilMsDiva4u 4 years ago
I am sorry you feel this way, Yes it was part of an assignment so that is why it turned out the way it did. We had to alter a scene from a film and thats what they the director chose. Glad you liked it...
seasonproductions 4 years ago
i don't understand the reason behind heterosexualizing this scene. i guess if it was part of an assignment it makes a certain amount of sense but in the larger scheme of the play there is a rhetorical normalizing that is taking place and hence the meaning of the play is completely lost...this makes me sad.
inmymindseye 4 years ago
bizarre.
akliner 4 years ago
ummm.... ok?
seasonproductions 4 years ago
Agreed
terronk 4 years ago
I knew you'd see things my way.
akliner 4 years ago