Although there is some evidence that a certain Joshua was condemned to death( Jewish History) there is NO evidence whatsoever for the salvation story. It is not even certain that this Joshua, is the same person as the Jesus from the gospels. For extraordinary events (resurrections) you need extraordinary evidence. There is none.
Asserting as "fact" Jesus's "death" by crucifixion is plainly dishonest. I am not going to repeat my discussion with John Barron Jr. to you, but he was forced to concede since I actually made him BACK UP his claims. I have debunked the medical assertions in my "Christianist is epistemologically bankrupt" video. I can debunk all your arguments in no time.
@WaysOfMan The problem with that is that the Roman records reflect the account in the Gospels. Tactitus recorded "Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus,."
No, That is not the problem. The narrator of this video states that :
"jesus' death by crucifiction is attested to in the gospels and at least 5 non-christian sources."
In that list he counts the Talmud. However as I have shown the Talmud indicates that jesus was not crucified. Therefore there are only 4 non-christian sources.
@sinterQ, the truth you seek is human opinion, not the truth that comes through Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Your narrow way or lonely way is without the Son of God, Jesus Christ, Religion can not wash your sins away or your unbelief. only the Blood of Jesus can wash your sins away. You under the influence of darkness or your sin of unbelief. You decided to control your unbelief yourself. Repent, and believe the gospel of Christ. Do not just give lip service, but pray from your heart of hearts.
@sinterQ Fear is healthy and appropriate when you are in danger. Jesus spoke more of hell than anyone else in scripture, you ought to consider a warning given in love.
You're right; fear can be healthy & appropriate, however, i was talking about fear in the larger sense... like the fear that keeps 6 billion people in check today!
one of those six billion are 'godfearing' christians...
i'm not saying i prefer one religion over another; rather that all religions have their flaws and NONE is completely correct (though they all have their points of merit)
in my opinion religion is a worldwide issue that stands in the way of truth!
@sinterQ Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."(Mt 10:28) Don't worry about religion, religion will not work, unless you can stand sinless before God you need a savior not religion.
no thank you, I'm done giving my power away... I'm a sovereign human being and feel I cannot let something like religion limit my thoughts, speech & actions. Thanks for that jesus quote, I feel organized religion is probably the greatest threat to indeed destroy man's soul... just look at the countless deaths & unbelievable misery religions brought to the world. To this day people are maimed, raped & murdered all in the name of some 'god'... forgetting our humanity along the way.
@sinterQ “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
im sorry, but please dont quote that book to me... it means no more than any other book. though there is wisdom in the quote.
let me put it in another light... im gonna name a few very WIDE gates: Atheism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism.... personally i'm glad that im not under control of any of those; i'm a sovereign man! I seek truth and often i stand alone...
"Yay, I spoke onto thee, mine path is verily narrow."
Though the spirit that posessed him (and many others before him) lives on.
Thereby proving the eternal immortality of us all... the body is merely a vessel.
He knew his 'real body' would not perish so he sacrificed his earthly form for us all to see & understand this. This is the reason we are all free... & unbound by any earthly religion or concept.
Although there is some evidence that a certain Joshua was condemned to death( Jewish History) there is NO evidence whatsoever for the salvation story. It is not even certain that this Joshua, is the same person as the Jesus from the gospels. For extraordinary events (resurrections) you need extraordinary evidence. There is none.
tallliza 8 months ago
I also have a video debunking Dr. Metherell (but YT won't let me give the URL...)
nightvidcole 1 year ago
Asserting as "fact" Jesus's "death" by crucifixion is plainly dishonest. I am not going to repeat my discussion with John Barron Jr. to you, but he was forced to concede since I actually made him BACK UP his claims. I have debunked the medical assertions in my "Christianist is epistemologically bankrupt" video. I can debunk all your arguments in no time.
nightvidcole 1 year ago
@nightvidcole Please share!
Patience1138 4 months ago
put "Not A Shred Of Evidence" "John Barron Jr." into Google to find it, YT won't let me give the URL. It is near the bottom of the page.
This medical claim has been discredited long ago, there is not enough historical data to back up these claims.
nightvidcole 1 year ago
See my discussion with John Barron Jr. You are simply wrong.
nightvidcole 1 year ago
you want some answers?
check out "the naked truth" (J. Maxwell)
sinterQ 1 year ago
The swoon theory was debunked decades ago yet people still use it. Man will do whatever he can to stay in unbelief. Neutrality is a myth.
theocratickingdom30 1 year ago
Tthe Talmud disagrees on many of the points of your story.
The Talmud offers the name Yeshu not Yeshua.
The context indicates that this Yeshu was stoned (to death) and (subsequently) hanged by the Sanhedrin (as per Jewish law) not crucified.
Extra leniency was sought as Yeshu was friendly with the government and the Jews did now want to anger them.
He had only 5 students.
This is all per Sanhedrin 43a.
This narrative contrasts sharply with the NT's version and perhaps should not be considered.
WaysOfMan 1 year ago
@WaysOfMan The problem with that is that the Roman records reflect the account in the Gospels. Tactitus recorded "Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus,."
cdputnam 1 year ago
@cdputnam
No, That is not the problem. The narrator of this video states that :
"jesus' death by crucifiction is attested to in the gospels and at least 5 non-christian sources."
In that list he counts the Talmud. However as I have shown the Talmud indicates that jesus was not crucified. Therefore there are only 4 non-christian sources.
WaysOfMan 1 year ago
@sinterQ, the truth you seek is human opinion, not the truth that comes through Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Your narrow way or lonely way is without the Son of God, Jesus Christ, Religion can not wash your sins away or your unbelief. only the Blood of Jesus can wash your sins away. You under the influence of darkness or your sin of unbelief. You decided to control your unbelief yourself. Repent, and believe the gospel of Christ. Do not just give lip service, but pray from your heart of hearts.
2364063 1 year ago
Every concept that tries to instill fear in either its followers or non-followers must be thoroughly examined before it is completely dismissed!
sinterQ 1 year ago
@sinterQ Fear is healthy and appropriate when you are in danger. Jesus spoke more of hell than anyone else in scripture, you ought to consider a warning given in love.
LogosApologia 1 year ago
@LogosApologia
You're right; fear can be healthy & appropriate, however, i was talking about fear in the larger sense... like the fear that keeps 6 billion people in check today!
one of those six billion are 'godfearing' christians...
i'm not saying i prefer one religion over another; rather that all religions have their flaws and NONE is completely correct (though they all have their points of merit)
in my opinion religion is a worldwide issue that stands in the way of truth!
sinterQ 1 year ago
@sinterQ Jesus said, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."(Mt 10:28) Don't worry about religion, religion will not work, unless you can stand sinless before God you need a savior not religion.
cdputnam 1 year ago
@cdputnam
no thank you, I'm done giving my power away... I'm a sovereign human being and feel I cannot let something like religion limit my thoughts, speech & actions. Thanks for that jesus quote, I feel organized religion is probably the greatest threat to indeed destroy man's soul... just look at the countless deaths & unbelievable misery religions brought to the world. To this day people are maimed, raped & murdered all in the name of some 'god'... forgetting our humanity along the way.
sinterQ 1 year ago
Sounds more like a deranged psychotic killer than a just God.
falynsoul 6 months ago
@sinterQ “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
(Matthew 7:13-14
LogosApologia 1 year ago
@LogosApologia
im sorry, but please dont quote that book to me... it means no more than any other book. though there is wisdom in the quote.
let me put it in another light... im gonna name a few very WIDE gates: Atheism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism.... personally i'm glad that im not under control of any of those; i'm a sovereign man! I seek truth and often i stand alone...
"Yay, I spoke onto thee, mine path is verily narrow."
sinterQ 1 year ago
It truly doesnt matter, the man is long dead.
Though the spirit that posessed him (and many others before him) lives on.
Thereby proving the eternal immortality of us all... the body is merely a vessel.
He knew his 'real body' would not perish so he sacrificed his earthly form for us all to see & understand this. This is the reason we are all free... & unbound by any earthly religion or concept.
sinterQ 1 year ago
Awesome!! Great information, thank you so much for sharing!! This is definitely a favorite! Thumbs up! God Bless!
CatholicApologia 1 year ago
Great video! Thank you for the share, and thank you for posting this. God Bless!
SylarDX85 1 year ago