I didn't, although the more I think about it, the more tempted I am to ask her what her opinion on the debate over this stuff is. I mean, clearly she has some opinion on the value of that kind of stuff being available, so who knows.
Not sure I'll point her to this channel though. At least not until final grades are in.
Maybe I should set up an alternate channel where I do NOTHING but play copyright protected music. Goodness knows the 'booty dance' videos I've had to pull in the last year would all have a comfy home there.
In response to your reply to my comment, Curt- I think it's gotten much easier to get the best resources for teaching as opposed to when I first started teaching.
It's just that the world has become bigger, more global, and more digitized-so much so, that teaching practices MUST evolve and adapt in order for content to remain relevant.
So, I DO use a lot of multi-media that is questionable with regard to copyright laws. I just lean on the Fair Use clause and hope for the best. If the intent is to further learning and not to profit, I don't see the harm in it.
I do see it as intellectual property that I have the option to purchase legally but teachers resourses are limited, as you know.
As I sit here reading this, it occurs to me that YT could be used as a resource for helping to fund these kinds of things. I mean, if boh3m3 can ask for help with moving expenses, provide a paypal link, and wind up with a buttload of cash...!!!!
I suppose it could be something as simple as a charitable organization having an account where the post videos informing people about their cause, and providing paypal buttons?
Or something of a campaign to raise funds for public education, set up the same way.
Instead of a corporate account, YT could set them up as some other type of business account...
I have to wonder if anyone else has already thought of this, taken the ball, and ran with it!
Those are some great ideas and to make those videos or channels more visible instead of just a community, have it be one of the tabs along with 'top rated', 'most viewed' etc, it should be a tab with a profound title like 'making a difference' or 'human world', or 'world working together'.... I love your sense of humor and I love your serious contributing side also. I cherish the 'Hug a hater video". "Al is that you?".
Re copy right, couldn't the teacher be exempt for educational purposes?
Thank you! And, yep, that's Al underneath the bag (but the voice is someone else thanks to some technical problems on the day we shot the footage).
As for the instructor, I'm thinking Fair Use gets her completely off the hook. I just loved the irony of having to spend less time here (and having to worry about complying with so many rules when I upload) and then sitting in class watching that clip.
I think YT in the classroom is a great idea in such cases as these. Education 'should' be free and I can't see anyone being churlish enough to challenge that. Hope not, at least :)
Never say never. Although if some entity like Viacom, who is already looking bad due to their lawsuit against YT/Google, tried to haul any laws already in place to protect educational use, I can predict only public outrage and bad press.
Curt, I try not to use "illegal" stuff, but when I teach, I often use YouTube art videos (How-to stuff) in my classes. The students respond well to some young, pretty thing telling the same things I do. No problem. It works! :-)
I think what I failed to convey here is that I'm actually in favor of using YT for educational purposes. My state of mind while watching that clip in class was centered around all the copyright warnings that have been in my face since I began this, plus the fact that I've had to cut back. I suppose I should just give up the fight.
I'm coming to that conclusion more and more. Even in the computer lab at school I see the employees sitting behind the counter watching YT vids. Haven't seen any Cat & Funny installments on their monitors yet, but here's hoping!
LOL - I've shared the YT thing with a few classmates over the last year and a half, but so far nobody is impressed. One woman liked my video coverage of a peace rally, but that's about the extent of it.
I never thought to ask this before, but have any of your coworkers become Cat & Funny fans as a result of you two talking about this site?
It's not fair is it Curt? Everyone gets to infringe on copyrights but you! LOL That really is amazing that the professor is showing that stuff though. -Jim
Tell me about it! In the beginning it was impossible for me to shape a video idea without the use of popular tunes, but after working so hard to alter my thinking so I don't resort to it, and after having to cut back on this severely...
I agree, it should be as long as what the instructor is showing pertains to the lecture or topic, which the clip we viewed certainly did. In fact, Morgan Freeman's strong opinion about Black History Month sparked a pretty lengthy discussion.
If CBS/Viacom were smart, they would be setting up these 60 Minutes interview clips themselves instead of pursuing that lawsuit.
And the campus tour - never thought that would be of interest, but maybe I was off the mark. Thanks, Norman!
OMG, you don't buy your music? I can't believe it!
I don't know, when they sold me my 30gb iPod they thought i would get it full of legal music? Pathetic! Maybe they thought i would listen only to podcasts!
It is illegal to upload those videos but once they are on a public ally accessible site like YouTube, is it illegal to watch or display them? Mmmmm, legalities.
Thanks, Carl - I think my use of the word "illegal" was probably incorrect and not too well thought out. But you may be right.
And like I was telling Toobnation1 in my reply to him below, the smart thing for the folks at 60 Minutes to do would be to make their interview clips available on a channel of their own. But I guess manic lawsuits are more important... whatevah!
Soon, there will be no need to leave our houses at all...YT will deliver food and beverages as well as all the entertainment and knowledge we could ever want. Oh, and Oprah. That'll be a great day.
LOL - I should ask the instructor if she does teach a class in ethics. Since making this video and reading the comments, I'm even more curious than ever to hear HER take on the whole YT/copyright thing.
Youtube now being used as an educational tool..it certainly does have many uses! lol Not sure if it's a good thing though, it kinda seems that the teacher is being a bit lazy.
A social virus?? WOW! So they block you all from even going to the site? I think I remember hearing that grade schools started doing that with MySpace. But that's young kids. We have to block adults from these things now too??
I wonder if she has seen any of your videos.... just imagine her showing your hug a hater video as an example of compassion and tolerance. You could pick up a few more subscribers that way :) how awkward would that be.
That's what I thought. Too bad I can't claim all my videos as having educational value, then I could use a lot of my favorite songs without any worries whatsoever.
I wanna see at the end of one of your videos, you walking down the street and just stop and throw your hat in the air, and stop it in mid air... then roll credits. :D
I think that this will happen again and again everywhere. If YouTube wants only original content here, they should hire a hundred of guys that will clean all the channels from illegal videos, and all the videos that will be uploaded after that should be quickly previewed by someone. Number of users on YT is growing and growing, so it's not enough to have a little tiny phrase on the upload page asking not to upload tv shows, etc.
Exactly. There's no way for YT to keep up. I just hope they don't decide that the answer is to get rid of this altogether. That would be a horrible waste!
In a weird, unexpected way, YT has helped reshape the way I'll eventually use this BA in history. I'd love to get involved in the educational process from this vantage point, helping to create materials that can be used in the classroom, etc.
Yeah, well...it's a tricky thing, you know Curt? I was in my voice lesson and we talked about things that you can find on YouTube, which truly are educational, and impossible to find ANYWHERE else. I mean, really, where else can you find a clip of Marilyn Horne from the B&W days in order to study her technique? Tricky business. Hey, did you tell her to click to your page???...hehe *hugs* Have a great weekend!
I'm guessing it wasn't a class on LAW and JUSTICE in the United States then? HAHA!! Seems ironic doesn't it? Ah, but then there IS that FAIR USE clause that allows for educational institutions limited use for ed purposes. But that puts the onus on YouTube for allowing the content to exist when it's copyrighted by whatever broadcasting company owns 60 Minutes. Still ironic - but I guess allowable. That...or the teacher is an idiot and pushing the edge of legality. HAHA!!
Thank goodness for fair use, yeah! And ironic is right. After all the 'following the rules' and deleting favorite videos that had infringing music, plus having to curb my time spent here.
And I had spent about 10 hours on campus by that time, so I was near brain dead.
So far as I know, 60 Minutes is a CBS thing, which makes it a Viacom thing.
Yep, lots of layers on that brief moment for this guy in the front row.
Hope all is well in the world of TonyDi these days.
Hmmm... I think your concerns about copyright are a little misplaced. The important question was whether or not the clip supported her lecture or not. If it did, then what she did was appropriate... otherwise, it was a waste of time. Fair use allows use of such clips in a classroom setting!!!
Haha, the teacher may be showing copyright infringing vids in class... but, what the heck, at least she's spreading the word about youtube. She deserves extra credit for that :)
It seems to me the availability of copywrited material on here is what made this place so popular. That's why initially I came. I knew nuthing bout no stinking community - boy was I sucked in.
It's a brave new world, Curtis. I believe I am of the few here with the BALLS, the GUTS, the SCHHUTSBA, chustba?, whootsbah, or some such to contunue anabated in my insistance on using actual GOOD music in my vids. YouTube is ruining Morgan Freemans life and I want to help
LOL - I still say that a blanket license allowing for the use of all that stuff would have been a better way to go, but I'm no industry expert by any means.
I can't imagine your vids without those tunes, actually.
Hey! At least someone besides you and me know what You Tube is! I've seen gatherings, ours included, where the crowd walked by and said "what's You Tube?", LOL.
That's just wrong...it's like whipping out a crack pipe and smoking up in front of a guy who's just out of rehab. Just when you knuckle down and focus on your studies, now your PROFESSORS are tempting you with YouTube! :)
I met up with a friend of mine for lunch on Friday at his office. While at his desk, he asked how the YouTube stuff was going and I wound up taking him to your page to show him your "Role Model" collab video. In fact, his boss came in and watched it with us. They both loved it (and, no, they're not fans of Bush).
But was the teacher the one who uploaded the CBS clip? And, if so, have you considered not turning her in to YouTube in exchange for a better grade? Not that you'd stoop that low, of course, but still...
I had a professor in college who claimed that when the Sex Pistols used a Graham Greene line in one of their songs it was a defining moment in contemporary literature. Then he played the Sex Pistols song. I didn't get it.
He also made us read that crazy William Burroughs novel the name of which has been forever banned from my brain it was so horrible. Naked Lunch? Oh God, I thought it was banned.
I hated that guy.
I know that's not very relevant, just felt like saying it.
Curt, I would love to use Youtube in my classroom, however the powers that be blocked it from our network (for obvious reasons). It's a tool that would spark so much excitement. It has so much potential. For now they're going to have to settle for the little movies I'm able to make.
Gert: sad, but not surprising. I'm waiting for the day when I try to log into various web sites on the computers at the school's computer lab only to find that they've been blocked. On some computers in the campus "Internet cafe" (quotations around it because it's so fricken lame), java script has purposely not been installed so that things like streaming video can't be viewed.
As for you showing them videos you make, do you have to get any kind of clearance from anyone before you show them?
I don't have to get clearance. I don't show anything that might be misconstrued as inappropriate. I don't use my students or my own children. As far as youtube being blocked, you have to understand I'm dealing with 11 -14 year olds, a bit different than adults only viewing. I'm amazed that anything's blocked at your "internet cafe" Then again, I had to sign a paper at work that said I wouldn't use the internet to view anything that wasn't school related... which includes...tbc
Personal e-mail. I guess they're worried I'm going to rob them of 10 minutes of work time. I don't suppose I can charge them for the Hours and hours I work on creating lessons and grading papers and making phone calls to parents from home? Yeah, it was a bad week :;smiles::
Illeagal...Poppycock! All info should be free! And Ill even go one step further and say. I think all public schools should be abolished and EVERYONE / STUDENT should have a laptop. There would be fewer teachers needed which would ease the already overcroweded classrooms! The classes could be prerecorded and all children all over the world could be learning the same thing at the same time! And kids could go at their own pace. Right now all we have are unsafe jails for kids. FREE the net! RonPaul!
Do you think teachers stop being educated when they graduated from college? We're all life long learners. It Never ends. Any bit of information we can gather, as long as it's valid is snatched up and stored away to be shared later. ;)
I'm surprised CBS wasn't all over YT's proverbial ass. But you know, at least SOMEBODY's watching 60 Minutes!
We were sent a video of some Technical School Automotive students who did a month long body work project on an old car. The video was a time-lapse of the repair that these students made. YT has made it into our collection minds as the place to go for this kind of content and to share it.
Gary, CBS should make that Morgan Freeman clip, as well as tons of other interview clips, available on their own YT channel. But they're controlled by Viacom, so...
The time lapse video was on YT? I'd love to know what kind of discussion that inspired at your office!
Jason even recorded a short theme song for the "Ask Rufus" series, can ya dig it? That guy RAWKS!!! (Jason, not Rufus... although Rufus does rock... in his own way...)
That's funny.. what a head trip for her to put on Youtube.. did you put up your hand and tell her to go to your channel hahahhahahaa How funny is that. Well there will always be copyrighted stuff on here it seems. Bet you felt like giving her a lecture hey? lol
does your instructor know who you are? i mean, ohcurt of yt fame???
and, speaking of infringement, last night 2 porn videos (or at least their thumbnails) were scrolling through the 'videos being watched right now' scrollbar for over an hour with graphic nudity/sexual content!! (too bad you were watching morgan freeman instead, rofl)
Actually, I haven't said anything to her. She seems to be the defensive type, and with this being a night class where everyone (including her) is nodding off, I figure I'm better off not trying to engage in anything that might make it seem as if I'm not just soaking up what she says like a desperate sponge.
Sure why not. Some of youtube can be very educational. Even tho youtube doesnt allow it all. lol
I think that screen thing that projects the computer is great. I seen that at our church.. he showed the words to a song with it and some things he made for a holiday presentation.
Little did he know, his professor was a subscriber... Oh, wouldn't it be funny?
What I find amusing is the feeling of injustice you felt that nobody else did. You've become sensitized to this issue, but the majority of the world doesn't care.
Do you ever get that "Are you for real?" stare when you talk about copyright issues in public? I'm getting tired of it. Yet I keep bothering.
Dan, I doubt anyone else was even thinking twice about what we were watching and all the implications of that clip being where it was.
About the only person in my non-Tube life that I can discuss these copyright concerns with is a buddy who works in music research at one of the studios. He doesn't have a YT account, but he's surfed it a bit. He composes music himself, but he's of the mindset that YT videos act largely as promotional tools, whether they're intended to or not.
Why should copyright infringement get in the way of education?
fehquig 4 years ago
Amen!
Greetings from San Francisco, btw. Wish you and Cindy could've been here!
OhCurt 4 years ago
I'm looking forward to Toronto in a big way!
I'm convinced it will all be worth the wait.
Maybe we can do frisco(I hear using that cute antiquated diminutive term is a no-no) next year...
fehquig 4 years ago
Hey! My backyard! give a wave across the bay!
BluesBrian 4 years ago
"oh I'm listening to copyright infringing songs,so i can't share them with you,sorry."lmao
JeeprzCreepers56 4 years ago
Kinda rude, right?
;-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
Did you say anything to the teacher about the copyright violation?
biblegirl7 4 years ago
I didn't, although the more I think about it, the more tempted I am to ask her what her opinion on the debate over this stuff is. I mean, clearly she has some opinion on the value of that kind of stuff being available, so who knows.
Not sure I'll point her to this channel though. At least not until final grades are in.
;-)~
OhCurt 4 years ago
that music in the end sounded like Dead Like Me...
O_O now I'm going to watch it
SinfulEnvy 4 years ago
I've never seen that show but I know of it. Gotta love anything that pokes fun at the afterlife.
:-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
Oh you really should watch it. It's hilarious and it has parts that just make you sit there and think.
SinfulEnvy 4 years ago
Ha!Ha! Oh, the irony!! LOL! Where's the uncopyrighted love? LOL!
battlebauble 4 years ago
Maybe I should set up an alternate channel where I do NOTHING but play copyright protected music. Goodness knows the 'booty dance' videos I've had to pull in the last year would all have a comfy home there.
Hope you're keeping warm, Darl!!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Check out my latest video. I did a covert video of my class. I thought I'd bring my classroom to YT since YT came to your classroom. ha,ha,ha!
battlebauble 4 years ago
LOL your unshared songs.
Are your earphones bugging you?
Looks like you were enjoying a pretty day where you're at.
Elaina43 4 years ago
The earphones are beginning to assimilate with the rest of my head, I have them on so often. And, yeah, we had decent weather conditions that day.
I just hope the weather up in San Fran is agreeable next weekend.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Me too! I'm going to check out the bus site right now... Thanks.
Elaina43 4 years ago
Next class she will be showing a YouTube video of you talking about her showing an illegal YouTube video. Now that would be surreal!
guidotnb 4 years ago
That's what's known as The Great YouTube Vortex of Power.
Fer reals.
OhCurt 4 years ago
lol
U2bianSynic 4 years ago
In response to your reply to my comment, Curt- I think it's gotten much easier to get the best resources for teaching as opposed to when I first started teaching.
It's just that the world has become bigger, more global, and more digitized-so much so, that teaching practices MUST evolve and adapt in order for content to remain relevant.
U2bianSynic 4 years ago
So, I DO use a lot of multi-media that is questionable with regard to copyright laws. I just lean on the Fair Use clause and hope for the best. If the intent is to further learning and not to profit, I don't see the harm in it.
I do see it as intellectual property that I have the option to purchase legally but teachers resourses are limited, as you know.
We beg, steal, and borrow.
U2bianSynic 4 years ago
amen sister!
IXGertXI 4 years ago
As I sit here reading this, it occurs to me that YT could be used as a resource for helping to fund these kinds of things. I mean, if boh3m3 can ask for help with moving expenses, provide a paypal link, and wind up with a buttload of cash...!!!!
Just an incomplete thought, really...
OhCurt 4 years ago
No it is not an imcomlete thougth. Keep going with it. You have my support.
jefgain 4 years ago
I suppose it could be something as simple as a charitable organization having an account where the post videos informing people about their cause, and providing paypal buttons?
Or something of a campaign to raise funds for public education, set up the same way.
Instead of a corporate account, YT could set them up as some other type of business account...
I have to wonder if anyone else has already thought of this, taken the ball, and ran with it!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Those are some great ideas and to make those videos or channels more visible instead of just a community, have it be one of the tabs along with 'top rated', 'most viewed' etc, it should be a tab with a profound title like 'making a difference' or 'human world', or 'world working together'.... I love your sense of humor and I love your serious contributing side also. I cherish the 'Hug a hater video". "Al is that you?".
Re copy right, couldn't the teacher be exempt for educational purposes?
jefgain 4 years ago
Thank you! And, yep, that's Al underneath the bag (but the voice is someone else thanks to some technical problems on the day we shot the footage).
As for the instructor, I'm thinking Fair Use gets her completely off the hook. I just loved the irony of having to spend less time here (and having to worry about complying with so many rules when I upload) and then sitting in class watching that clip.
OhCurt 4 years ago
I check in...once in a while, to see how fellow students are doing ;)
PeterXeNon 4 years ago
Hopefully YOU'RE doing well with your studies.
:-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
HAHAHA!!!
1938superman 4 years ago
lol :)
msdragonfly1 4 years ago
:-D
OhCurt 4 years ago
I think YT in the classroom is a great idea in such cases as these. Education 'should' be free and I can't see anyone being churlish enough to challenge that. Hope not, at least :)
SohoSquare 4 years ago
Never say never. Although if some entity like Viacom, who is already looking bad due to their lawsuit against YT/Google, tried to haul any laws already in place to protect educational use, I can predict only public outrage and bad press.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Curt, I try not to use "illegal" stuff, but when I teach, I often use YouTube art videos (How-to stuff) in my classes. The students respond well to some young, pretty thing telling the same things I do. No problem. It works! :-)
wizzlewolf 4 years ago
I think what I failed to convey here is that I'm actually in favor of using YT for educational purposes. My state of mind while watching that clip in class was centered around all the copyright warnings that have been in my face since I began this, plus the fact that I've had to cut back. I suppose I should just give up the fight.
:-D
OhCurt 4 years ago
just goes to show there is no escaping YouTube, even during lessons! ;)
21stCenturyCat 4 years ago
I'm coming to that conclusion more and more. Even in the computer lab at school I see the employees sitting behind the counter watching YT vids. Haven't seen any Cat & Funny installments on their monitors yet, but here's hoping!
:-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
do the people there have any idea you post videos and are more successful than most on YT?
21stCenturyCat 4 years ago
LOL - I've shared the YT thing with a few classmates over the last year and a half, but so far nobody is impressed. One woman liked my video coverage of a peace rally, but that's about the extent of it.
I never thought to ask this before, but have any of your coworkers become Cat & Funny fans as a result of you two talking about this site?
OhCurt 4 years ago
It's not fair is it Curt? Everyone gets to infringe on copyrights but you! LOL That really is amazing that the professor is showing that stuff though. -Jim
CountryComesToTown 4 years ago
Tell me about it! In the beginning it was impossible for me to shape a video idea without the use of popular tunes, but after working so hard to alter my thinking so I don't resort to it, and after having to cut back on this severely...
I give up! LOL
OhCurt 4 years ago
Whats Real Bad is when you thinking of copyright infringing songs while making a video.....lol
vmanvand 4 years ago
Who cares about copyrights and such? they just slow progress.
NihilistZealot 4 years ago
Travis, somewhere in the distance, I can hear Prince crying out in anger over what you just wrote. lol
Will we be seeing you in San Fran, I hope?
OhCurt 4 years ago
Yes, and I'll probably be dressed femme.
NihilistZealot 4 years ago
I came back cause I missed your voice :)
PrincessDiana161 4 years ago
Stalker!
8-)~
OhCurt 4 years ago
Informative or Relaxing Infringements FTW!
PositiveLogic 4 years ago
I wanna hear those songs!!! Share those songs!!!
Minniver 4 years ago
:-D
It was an old album track by Queen called "Long Away"
OhCurt 4 years ago
YT is a great educational platform and should be used in classrooms more often... or NOT!
Great vlog as always! You should show us around the campus. Just a thought.
ToobNation1 4 years ago
I agree, it should be as long as what the instructor is showing pertains to the lecture or topic, which the clip we viewed certainly did. In fact, Morgan Freeman's strong opinion about Black History Month sparked a pretty lengthy discussion.
If CBS/Viacom were smart, they would be setting up these 60 Minutes interview clips themselves instead of pursuing that lawsuit.
And the campus tour - never thought that would be of interest, but maybe I was off the mark. Thanks, Norman!
OhCurt 4 years ago
I homeschool my boys and sometimes use YT for things. It's the new thing baby! :-)
RiddleSpider 4 years ago
Seriously? Oh man, that's fantastic.
Any chance you'd be willing to vlog about this? Or have you done this already and I'm just showing my lack of awareness?
OhCurt 4 years ago
This morning we watched BlendTec vids, more for entertainment than education I guess.
:-) I was going to talk about homeschooling pretty soon, but not in this vein....let me think on it.
RiddleSpider 4 years ago
OMG, you don't buy your music? I can't believe it!
I don't know, when they sold me my 30gb iPod they thought i would get it full of legal music? Pathetic! Maybe they thought i would listen only to podcasts!
f3xpgm 4 years ago
Hey what's wrong with that? If I need to know something, I go straight to the OhCurt channel!
woosteria 4 years ago
You do? Uh oh! In that case, I better start checking my primary sources better.
;-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
Ooh you should have called her out on it!
Joanie
Joan3424 4 years ago
this is why i subscribed again :)
the end music reminded me of the emperors new groove haha
zerstreutdarjeeling 4 years ago
A repeat subscriber? (and did that phrase already exist or did I just coin it?).
Welcome back, in any event.
And I didn't think about it, but now that you mention it about that last music piece... Jason's music has been a lifesaver for me as of late.
OhCurt 4 years ago
i'm aharris8! if you remember..i thought i'd come back and just be a spectator without the vids.
his music is pretty perky :)
zerstreutdarjeeling 4 years ago
I DO remember! Wondered what happened to you after I saw your channel was closed. Hope nothing scary was going on to inspire the switch!
OhCurt 4 years ago
The classroom, is no place for sarcasm.
:P
anakin1814 4 years ago
Really? thats where I did my best work on the road to mastering in sarcasm :-)
Ranblv 4 years ago
It is illegal to upload those videos but once they are on a public ally accessible site like YouTube, is it illegal to watch or display them? Mmmmm, legalities.
Great vlog, Curt!
NaturalTwentyFilms 4 years ago
Thanks, Carl - I think my use of the word "illegal" was probably incorrect and not too well thought out. But you may be right.
And like I was telling Toobnation1 in my reply to him below, the smart thing for the folks at 60 Minutes to do would be to make their interview clips available on a channel of their own. But I guess manic lawsuits are more important... whatevah!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Great Video :) LOL
Aceswolf 4 years ago
Yeah, it does make those student loans worth looking at a 2nd time! LOL
Haynes1994 4 years ago
Soon, there will be no need to leave our houses at all...YT will deliver food and beverages as well as all the entertainment and knowledge we could ever want. Oh, and Oprah. That'll be a great day.
tlg847 4 years ago
In that case, I hope Pizza Hut creates a channel REAL SOON!
*hold the Oprah*
;-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
Pepperoni and Onions here; no Dr. Phil, please.
tlg847 4 years ago
Good things they're teaching good ethics in that class. lol
1938superman 4 years ago
LOL - I should ask the instructor if she does teach a class in ethics. Since making this video and reading the comments, I'm even more curious than ever to hear HER take on the whole YT/copyright thing.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Youtube now being used as an educational tool..it certainly does have many uses! lol Not sure if it's a good thing though, it kinda seems that the teacher is being a bit lazy.
bugzealot 4 years ago
So you were taking a break from YouTube to go to class and watch YouTube?
Hmm...
YouTube is forbidden where I work. Its like a social virus.
captainfury2007 4 years ago
A social virus?? WOW! So they block you all from even going to the site? I think I remember hearing that grade schools started doing that with MySpace. But that's young kids. We have to block adults from these things now too??
OhCurt 4 years ago
Yes. They would rather have us stand around the watercooler.
captainfury2007 4 years ago
I wonder if she has seen any of your videos.... just imagine her showing your hug a hater video as an example of compassion and tolerance. You could pick up a few more subscribers that way :) how awkward would that be.
2of6Solutions 4 years ago
HA! I think I'd be OK with Hug a Hater being shown in class. Not sure any of the crazy dance videos would have educational value to them.
Now THAT might be awkward...
;-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
Sorry got to do this.
Oh Oh Oh Oh Curt. lol.
Ok so now the teachers are using things that are illeagle stuff to teach you with. Oh curt you could of stayed at home and watched that.
realnutty01 4 years ago
It's covered by the Fair Use clause - it's legal to use copyrighted material in an educational setting if it supports the lesson.
myrnaukelele 4 years ago
That's what I thought. Too bad I can't claim all my videos as having educational value, then I could use a lot of my favorite songs without any worries whatsoever.
OhCurt 4 years ago
youtube is a great tool, I think. In one of my music classes, we watched some videos of different musical genres/instruments from around the world.
ghostofxmaspast 4 years ago
I wanna see at the end of one of your videos, you walking down the street and just stop and throw your hat in the air, and stop it in mid air... then roll credits. :D
Evidentally it wasn't an ethics class.(?)
IAGuy06 4 years ago
Ever since I was a kid watching MTM reruns in the afternoon I've wanted to do that too.
:-D
And, no, it's a class on how history is (and has been) studied over the years.
OhCurt 4 years ago
I think that this will happen again and again everywhere. If YouTube wants only original content here, they should hire a hundred of guys that will clean all the channels from illegal videos, and all the videos that will be uploaded after that should be quickly previewed by someone. Number of users on YT is growing and growing, so it's not enough to have a little tiny phrase on the upload page asking not to upload tv shows, etc.
Spielbergsp 4 years ago
Exactly. There's no way for YT to keep up. I just hope they don't decide that the answer is to get rid of this altogether. That would be a horrible waste!
OhCurt 4 years ago
yeah...about that copyright thing...
Good luck being a teacher and not having to use copyrighted materials. hehe
Thank the goddess for the Fair Use clause, otherwise, I'd be in deep doo doo.
U2bianSynic 4 years ago
In a weird, unexpected way, YT has helped reshape the way I'll eventually use this BA in history. I'd love to get involved in the educational process from this vantage point, helping to create materials that can be used in the classroom, etc.
Who knows...!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Yeah, well...it's a tricky thing, you know Curt? I was in my voice lesson and we talked about things that you can find on YouTube, which truly are educational, and impossible to find ANYWHERE else. I mean, really, where else can you find a clip of Marilyn Horne from the B&W days in order to study her technique? Tricky business. Hey, did you tell her to click to your page???...hehe *hugs* Have a great weekend!
Ravensinger 4 years ago
This just helps illustrate how all the different applications of YT aren't even fully recognized by the entity that owns it.
Hope your weekend is going well and that rehearsals aren't taking too much out of you (don't get sick again!! That nasty flu is making the rounds)
OhCurt 4 years ago
I'm guessing it wasn't a class on LAW and JUSTICE in the United States then? HAHA!! Seems ironic doesn't it? Ah, but then there IS that FAIR USE clause that allows for educational institutions limited use for ed purposes. But that puts the onus on YouTube for allowing the content to exist when it's copyrighted by whatever broadcasting company owns 60 Minutes. Still ironic - but I guess allowable. That...or the teacher is an idiot and pushing the edge of legality. HAHA!!
TonyDi 4 years ago
Thank goodness for fair use, yeah! And ironic is right. After all the 'following the rules' and deleting favorite videos that had infringing music, plus having to curb my time spent here.
And I had spent about 10 hours on campus by that time, so I was near brain dead.
So far as I know, 60 Minutes is a CBS thing, which makes it a Viacom thing.
Yep, lots of layers on that brief moment for this guy in the front row.
Hope all is well in the world of TonyDi these days.
:-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
Hmmm... I think your concerns about copyright are a little misplaced. The important question was whether or not the clip supported her lecture or not. If it did, then what she did was appropriate... otherwise, it was a waste of time. Fair use allows use of such clips in a classroom setting!!!
blackturtleus 4 years ago
Haha, the teacher may be showing copyright infringing vids in class... but, what the heck, at least she's spreading the word about youtube. She deserves extra credit for that :)
theloathlydaddy 4 years ago
Next time you're in class, tell your professor to sub to me, will ya? : )
bnessel1973 4 years ago
I tried to explain who you were but when I said, "the guy with the shaved head" she got confused and blurted out a different name.
8-|
OhCurt 4 years ago
It's not the first time a woman has shouted a different name than mine ... at least this time I'm not stuck with a hotel bill. Wait, what?!
bnessel1973 4 years ago
Hi Curt,
That must have felt weird. I hope you have a good weekend! We are scheduled to ride; but it will be raining both days. Glad I have rain gear! :0)
JeepGirl2 4 years ago
It seems to me the availability of copywrited material on here is what made this place so popular. That's why initially I came. I knew nuthing bout no stinking community - boy was I sucked in.
dl737 4 years ago
You and me both, Danny!
If it weren't for infringing clips of Knots Landing episodes, I'd probably never know most of you.
OhCurt 4 years ago
I guess most of us went through this, and this is the way we all got here.
Spielbergsp 4 years ago
At least she didn't show your booty dance video. Wouldn't that have made class interesting? LOL
SunnyDazStormyNitz 4 years ago
OMG...I was thinking the very same thing!!! Heehee!
(((Hugs)))You Guys!!!
~Mimi
Lethesunshine 4 years ago
LOL, actually, I kept hoping that she wouldn't go ADD on us and start clicking on renetto videos.
:-D
OhCurt 4 years ago
It's a brave new world, Curtis. I believe I am of the few here with the BALLS, the GUTS, the SCHHUTSBA, chustba?, whootsbah, or some such to contunue anabated in my insistance on using actual GOOD music in my vids. YouTube is ruining Morgan Freemans life and I want to help
debstef 4 years ago
LOL - I still say that a blanket license allowing for the use of all that stuff would have been a better way to go, but I'm no industry expert by any means.
I can't imagine your vids without those tunes, actually.
OhCurt 4 years ago
I'm gonna show your video in class and you ain't getting a dime! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sue me.
Gimmeabreakman 4 years ago
Can lawsuits for .00015 cents even be filed by people in the US against people in Japan?!
Eh, why fight it. Let me know which ones you want and you can have the master files, LOL!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Hey! At least someone besides you and me know what You Tube is! I've seen gatherings, ours included, where the crowd walked by and said "what's You Tube?", LOL.
So, did you tell them what a star you are ;)
Whits1bone 4 years ago
HA! :D
13thDimension 4 years ago
That's just wrong...it's like whipping out a crack pipe and smoking up in front of a guy who's just out of rehab. Just when you knuckle down and focus on your studies, now your PROFESSORS are tempting you with YouTube! :)
musosf 4 years ago
that's INSANE.
johnnysmooth 4 years ago
Oh the irony..... I LOVE it!
I can't believe you said the "c" word and then flaunted it in our face. Dude--I'm sooo close to flagging this video.
winger1212 4 years ago
Largely unrelated to topic:
I met up with a friend of mine for lunch on Friday at his office. While at his desk, he asked how the YouTube stuff was going and I wound up taking him to your page to show him your "Role Model" collab video. In fact, his boss came in and watched it with us. They both loved it (and, no, they're not fans of Bush).
:-D
OhCurt 4 years ago
Wow--that's funny.
winger1212 4 years ago
But was the teacher the one who uploaded the CBS clip? And, if so, have you considered not turning her in to YouTube in exchange for a better grade? Not that you'd stoop that low, of course, but still...
kenrg 4 years ago
Good question, Ken!! I didn't even think of that. Went to look at the channel that hosts that clip and it's hard to tell, but probably not.
I WISH I could use blackmail material to get out of some of this reading, UGH!
Hope you're feeling better, btw. Would be a shame if you missed the San Fran meetup!
OhCurt 4 years ago
Oh, I'll be there next Saturday, whether I'm all doped up or not. In fact, maybe better if I'm all doped up... or maybe not.
kenrg 4 years ago
We'll at least set up a "sick corner" where you and the others with the flu can be roped off for display purposes only.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Hey Curt you should of one starred it!!!
ThOverdrive 4 years ago
+ + + this comment has been deleted due to copyright infringement + + +
mixedpixel 4 years ago
I had a professor in college who claimed that when the Sex Pistols used a Graham Greene line in one of their songs it was a defining moment in contemporary literature. Then he played the Sex Pistols song. I didn't get it.
He also made us read that crazy William Burroughs novel the name of which has been forever banned from my brain it was so horrible. Naked Lunch? Oh God, I thought it was banned.
I hated that guy.
I know that's not very relevant, just felt like saying it.
sukatra 4 years ago
Sukatra, do you really think 'relevant' has a place in my comment sections?
BAH!
Hey, I remember renting the movie for Naked Lunch and thinking, "WTF?!!"
Perhaps your professor was under the influence of some type of crack.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Haha thats quite strange. I find it funny that most people think youtube is just a place for watching tv clips and seieng hamsters on skateboards.
FroGhandi 4 years ago
When my college schedules a course on roller skating hamsters, it will be a sign of the apocalypse.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Bizarre!
Illuminatta 4 years ago
Curt, I would love to use Youtube in my classroom, however the powers that be blocked it from our network (for obvious reasons). It's a tool that would spark so much excitement. It has so much potential. For now they're going to have to settle for the little movies I'm able to make.
IXGertXI 4 years ago
Gert: sad, but not surprising. I'm waiting for the day when I try to log into various web sites on the computers at the school's computer lab only to find that they've been blocked. On some computers in the campus "Internet cafe" (quotations around it because it's so fricken lame), java script has purposely not been installed so that things like streaming video can't be viewed.
As for you showing them videos you make, do you have to get any kind of clearance from anyone before you show them?
OhCurt 4 years ago
I don't have to get clearance. I don't show anything that might be misconstrued as inappropriate. I don't use my students or my own children. As far as youtube being blocked, you have to understand I'm dealing with 11 -14 year olds, a bit different than adults only viewing. I'm amazed that anything's blocked at your "internet cafe" Then again, I had to sign a paper at work that said I wouldn't use the internet to view anything that wasn't school related... which includes...tbc
IXGertXI 4 years ago
Personal e-mail. I guess they're worried I'm going to rob them of 10 minutes of work time. I don't suppose I can charge them for the Hours and hours I work on creating lessons and grading papers and making phone calls to parents from home? Yeah, it was a bad week :;smiles::
IXGertXI 4 years ago
Illeagal...Poppycock! All info should be free! And Ill even go one step further and say. I think all public schools should be abolished and EVERYONE / STUDENT should have a laptop. There would be fewer teachers needed which would ease the already overcroweded classrooms! The classes could be prerecorded and all children all over the world could be learning the same thing at the same time! And kids could go at their own pace. Right now all we have are unsafe jails for kids. FREE the net! RonPaul!
helivestubes 4 years ago
its gonna happen more and more.... check out computer users educators (CUE) -- they are trying to educate the teacher! Really!
berzerkeley 4 years ago
Do you think teachers stop being educated when they graduated from college? We're all life long learners. It Never ends. Any bit of information we can gather, as long as it's valid is snatched up and stored away to be shared later. ;)
IXGertXI 4 years ago
I'm surprised CBS wasn't all over YT's proverbial ass. But you know, at least SOMEBODY's watching 60 Minutes!
We were sent a video of some Technical School Automotive students who did a month long body work project on an old car. The video was a time-lapse of the repair that these students made. YT has made it into our collection minds as the place to go for this kind of content and to share it.
anakin1814 4 years ago
Gary, CBS should make that Morgan Freeman clip, as well as tons of other interview clips, available on their own YT channel. But they're controlled by Viacom, so...
The time lapse video was on YT? I'd love to know what kind of discussion that inspired at your office!
OhCurt 4 years ago
hahaha I got sent a Stevie Wonder live on Sesame Street video sent to me today, which I gladly watched. My ears are now tainted with infringe.
However, I gotta say I recognised Jason's music when the vid uploaded. Thank goodnees for him!
LeSaMilano 4 years ago
Lesley, NOOOO! Wash your ears!
WASH YOUR EARS!!
;-)~
Jason even recorded a short theme song for the "Ask Rufus" series, can ya dig it? That guy RAWKS!!! (Jason, not Rufus... although Rufus does rock... in his own way...)
OhCurt 4 years ago
**KISSES**
ASECONDCHANCEAROUND 4 years ago
(((Sonia)))
Hope you're continuing to feel better.
:-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
The news channels scour YouTube for news-worthy stories here!:)
ajdpadbury 4 years ago
That's funny.. what a head trip for her to put on Youtube.. did you put up your hand and tell her to go to your channel hahahhahahaa How funny is that. Well there will always be copyrighted stuff on here it seems. Bet you felt like giving her a lecture hey? lol
Pippilly 4 years ago
does your instructor know who you are? i mean, ohcurt of yt fame???
and, speaking of infringement, last night 2 porn videos (or at least their thumbnails) were scrolling through the 'videos being watched right now' scrollbar for over an hour with graphic nudity/sexual content!! (too bad you were watching morgan freeman instead, rofl)
txnrobin 4 years ago
Robin, you really should quit watching porn for hours on end. hee heee :0)
JeepGirl2 4 years ago
hahhahaha!! wait, how'd you know?? :P
txnrobin 4 years ago
I have a Wonka Vision web cam!
Oh no wait, that only transports food! LOL
JeepGirl2 4 years ago
You should have said: While you're there, can I check my channel, comments, subscribers? :P
GeneticBlend 4 years ago
LOL - Joe, all I could think was, "I'm trying to cut back on this damn thing, WHY ME?!?!"
OhCurt 4 years ago
Please tell me that you informed her about the video ?
Dlorezzz 4 years ago
Actually, I haven't said anything to her. She seems to be the defensive type, and with this being a night class where everyone (including her) is nodding off, I figure I'm better off not trying to engage in anything that might make it seem as if I'm not just soaking up what she says like a desperate sponge.
OhCurt 4 years ago
LoL.
It happenes!!
MeanBlackDude 4 years ago
I should have asked her to do a search for your vlog about "NO TEETH!"
:-D
OhCurt 4 years ago
handsome brown eyed man
PlanetRoboGoretex 4 years ago
*blush*
OhCurt 4 years ago
my history professor last semester used youtube all the time...
from old bob dylan videos to full documentaries. all of which are clearly copyright infringing material. lol.
yeah you gotta love the irony behind cheap ass stingy schools that have astronomically high tuition...
insidethemusicbox11 4 years ago
Sure why not. Some of youtube can be very educational. Even tho youtube doesnt allow it all. lol
I think that screen thing that projects the computer is great. I seen that at our church.. he showed the words to a song with it and some things he made for a holiday presentation.
AnnyaMoon 4 years ago
And I bet the copyright infringement video DIDN'T even have Kevin MacLeod music on it.
I'm thinking about including a sequence in my videos that just says "Kevin MacLeod or GFTO!" lol
johnofjordan 4 years ago
I'm guessing this instructor would squint at me and ask in a sarcastic tone, "what the hell is an incompetech?"
:-)
OhCurt 4 years ago
lol! I'm wondering if you had the urge to log-in as she typed in the link and blasted your community up in front of you. I know you did. ;)
moviegasm 4 years ago
Little did he know, his professor was a subscriber... Oh, wouldn't it be funny?
What I find amusing is the feeling of injustice you felt that nobody else did. You've become sensitized to this issue, but the majority of the world doesn't care.
Do you ever get that "Are you for real?" stare when you talk about copyright issues in public? I'm getting tired of it. Yet I keep bothering.
Good luck on classes, Curt. Have a good weekend!
-dan'l
DanPostropheL 4 years ago
Dan, I doubt anyone else was even thinking twice about what we were watching and all the implications of that clip being where it was.
About the only person in my non-Tube life that I can discuss these copyright concerns with is a buddy who works in music research at one of the studios. He doesn't have a YT account, but he's surfed it a bit. He composes music himself, but he's of the mindset that YT videos act largely as promotional tools, whether they're intended to or not.
OhCurt 4 years ago
i got a couple of classes to teach,they all have something to do with ass shakin videos.INow I must show the class
kidblood1 4 years ago
LOL
OhCurt 4 years ago
yup...the trick is have rights for what you upload. apart from that YouTube is everywhere.
verytrulyvideo 4 years ago
its all about the rules of gravity! great video, curt
PeterXeNon 4 years ago
Thanks, Kevin - hey, long time no see! I thought you were done with this little corner of cyber space.
OhCurt 4 years ago
Kinda feels like YT is taking over everything.
Is that a bad thing? ;-)
BoomerChick55 4 years ago
How dare that professor!
PooHunny69 4 years ago
Great video.
YouTube should let us add copy-right music to our videos. It doesn't hurt anyone.
I am scared that one day my account will be closed down, and fuck it if I will be back. nope, sry, gone.
slider9012 4 years ago
Hiya, Curt--
I had a very good teacher last year (a real Irishman, Fergal O'Doherty) who did the same thing. He not only showed some (apparently ille