The price is outrageous! However, ignoring price this piece would be a dreamsend for laptops. A solid State means less moving parts which means less heat output
Yep.. Now that I've gone and seen some of the newer test, I can safely say that hard drives, even in RAID are starting to lose ground to SSD. Actually that time has already come and gone. My vote is to have main system on SSD, and keep an old hard drive around for big storage.
I'm not sure this gives an accurate representation because there seems to be some odd bottle neck in your system. For example, it took 42 seconds to boot to windows. I can however boot to windows in about 20 seconds with ONE, Green Western digital hard drive. Then when I put in a PNY SSD, I could boot in about 10 seconds which cut the time in 1/2.
Max Read: up to 285 MB/s, Max Write: up to 275 MB/s, Sustained Write: up to 250 MB/s, 4k Random Write (Aligned): 50,000 IOPS, Seek Time: 0.1ms. On the OCZ Technology 120 GB Vertex 2 Series. Which is faster then this one.
...having said all of that, i do believe SSD drives will replace mechanical HD drives within the next 10 years...as the cost will drop dramatically allowing more users to adopt the technology - further reducing the costs associated with manufacturing the drive (simple economics).
@asillynoob, his test is flawed because it shouldn't have taken over 40 seconds to boot. His computer must be a slow dinosaur. I can boot to windows in 10 seconds with ssd. And even if raptor is in raid, I think it would be a bit slower if he had demoed it on a better machine. But one thing the raptor can not come close to is random reads and writes as the SSD will be more than 10 times faster.
I mean, raptor would be slower in a relative sense on a faster computer because on the faster computer, the SSD can realize it's full transfer rate... But even if not so, then the randoms will will in the end. Thus making all file I/O seem much quicker.
@robblac the newer ones are faster and are made for Windows 7 cause it is the only Windows operating system that supports ssd vista needs to be tweaked to get the full performance. Look on the OCZ forums to learn how to do that.
@Weini123 oh yea the revo drive is blazzin fast i just installed one on my dad rig its way faster than any current ssd except the zdrive bassically the same thing though
@oxbadcoded Its called being a greedy ass fuc__r he he i have the same problem and my mrs complains over how much i spend on shit :-) but hey you only live once so enjoy it
I still have my Raptors windows win764bit installed in it and this ssd compared to the rartors... there isn't much any difference. I would just raid two raptors and you will have an even faster booter drives than spend hundreds of bucks for ssds.
@Merts478 the intel drives distroys the raptors , i had three raptors in raid zero and two intel drives in raid zero the intel drives distroys the WD, u can buy slow SSD drives and these are not that fast so not a good test
@warwith1n It's good to know. I didn't spend dollars on the SSD' then because they were just new on the market and they were expensive. But, now they have very good ones and not as expensive as before.
I'd like to know your computer specs if you don't mind.
@Merts478 the intel ones are the best ones to buy , i have owned the samsung as well as the patriot and i now own INTEL and they are far the best ones i have owned , the write speeds are slower but the read speed are the best , and u will see more performance gain with one intel over a sumsung drive
@Merts478 Go with a intel drive u will see more of a perfomance gain , I owned the new samsung drives and windows only rated the speed to be a 5.9 , and the intel was rated at a 7.4 , when i raided the samsung it felt ok but the intels drives in raid was fast
the SSD act like the CPU and RAM yes that means if you have low cpu you can boost it up with this thing and the SATA drive is pretty much a hard drive that run from the sata cable
now, 2 years after this video was posted ssd drives are obviously much cheaper but I think I will wait a little bit more before switching, for now my 7200rpm drive will be good enough I guess
Not really worth the extra cash unless you are terrified of Hard Drive failure. Considering that if you absolutely depend on the information contained on your hard drive & the cost of recovering that information is almost $5000.00 for lab recovery. It Might not be a bad choice. But only if it is really Important to you.
thats a fucking beast of a hardrive. Its like the fastest HARDRIVE you can get. but yea i would probably get the WD velociraptor its cheaper * $300 and has a larger storage *300 gb i think.
I asked a question at chris' live chat pertaining to increasing my frames in games and he recommended buying a SSD. Does buying a sdd actually up my frames?
@snowydro1 ...just an example that I'd rather live in a 3 bedroom apartment in south brooklyn than in a small studio apartment near central park in Manhattan :)
@snowydro1 - it has everything to do with moving parts, heat, and search/seek time. that is what FAST means. the Raptors are plenty fast...although they do generate some heat and noise. i have had mine for years with no problems - they (Raptors) are classified as enterprise drives...that is the reason they are/were so costly. i still don't like the storage to cost ratio on the Raptors, but the SSDs are even more costly - and the added speed does not warrant the additional cost in my opinion.
SSD's use chips (integrated circuits) made up of transistors like a CPU instead of a spinning disk like a HDD. Since SSD's use transistors, they follow Moore's Law meaning the transistors can be shrunk, pushed to work faster, cost less, and run cooler every every year. The cost per gigabyte on a circuit of transistors is currently more expensive than the cost per gigabyte on a disk.
tbh the ssd doesnt look that much faster compared to that wd velocripter? ..i have no idea what it is, but man your computer is just fast in general! lol
Thanks for the review. Although it is obviously fast, there is not enough benefit to justify the cost in my opinion. I will keep my Raptors for now. Again, thanks for the review.
@ugotbawlz Well speed isn't only reason will buy a solid state drive. The properties of it being solid state make it very valuable, especially in laptops.
They take less power. They offer superior shock resistance and will run virtually forever due to no moving parts. No more lost data due to mechanical failure. No "spin up" times. Data at the speed of yesterday lol
With time capacity will go up and price will come down dramatically.
There's no need to be a Luddite. You don't drive to work with a horse and buggy do you? This is new exciting technology, of course it will be expensive at first.
@monkeyman1140 dude...i am not being an archaic Luddite...i am approaching it from a COMMON SENSE and PRACTICAL standpoint... of course it will come down with time. it is called economics and economies of scale - don't be a moronic sheep that rushes out to drop a dime on everything tech. case in point... i could have bought a $5K to $6K plasma TV about 5 years ago - but i didn't. i waited five years and bought the same or better tech for $670.00 USD. it's a WANT...NOT a need.
@ugotbawlz i agree its fast but the cost is a killer i got a crucial 128gb m225 for free so cost wasnt an issue here though i bet once youve went solidstate you wont go back to magnetic storage
This is true, but the way most systems are designed they do not take full advantage of that, so they are not as good as they could be. Look at this man's video and you'll see that solid state is not as good as it could be. I feel that proves my point.
Until sata 6.0 comes out these drives are not worth buying. They are not being used to their full potential. Plus from the benchmarks you show you are not getting enough of a performance gain to justify the money you spend.
I think my wifes Mac boots up twice as fast as this. She has a spinning disk HDD that runs at somewhere around 5k rpm. There's really not much point in spending large amounts of cash on a Solid State Drive right now. Too expensive and watch out for the Con-Artists. As there are programs on the market that report larger capacity and speed than there actually is on these ssds.
5K rpm is horrible, even for a laptop. Laptops a a ripoff for home users, Apple is bad for any application that isn't rendering. SSD drives blow away 10k rps raptor drives, so for every thing from boot up to gaming it's SSD>HDD. HDD is only superior in capacity. Try running photoshop and aftereffects.
I'm guessing you've never had a Mac. My wife is a pro photographer. And has never had any problems with the speed of her laptop. YES we all know SSD's can reach up to 40k rpm, but there's just no point to buying them for large amounts of cash. To save let's see about 10 seconds?
I've had a Mac and a PC, that is irrelevant. The reason it is called an SSD (SOLID STATE DISK) is because it has NO moving parts; 0 RPM. These things have seek times close to zero, and will continue to grow in size and get cheaper. Of course you say there is no problem, because there isn't. Some people just like speed. 10 Seconds? Be realistic, the savings in time is worth it. If you have a quad core CPU at 3.0 GHz, 12 GB of RAM, but a 5400 RPM hard drive, you WILL see a performance drop.
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Sounds to me like you're trying to sell a load of SSD'S, which is pretty lame. Own a little computer store do we? SSD's right now ARE NOT WORTH IT!! PERIOD!!! They are EXPENSIVE AS HELL and there is very little preformance improvement. Just because you have had a Mac and a PC does not make what I say irrelevant. FOOL!!! And yes we all do know what Solid State means. I was talking in terms of equivalence. What a freakin MORON YOU TRULY ARE!!!!!
You're the moron, what are you, 12 years old? I don't own a computer store, and neither am I lame. Sure they are expensive, take a look at the first PC's, my POINT was, that performance wise, SSD is the way to go (for the OS) and a regular HDD for storage. And, yes it does make your statement irrelevant, there is no equivalence, SSDs don't spin. Go to school before posting and learn some proper manners. Gosh, why so many idiots on YouTube?
OMG you are so DUMB. Ofcourse there's equivalence you IDIOT!!!! If I have a normal HDD that runs at 7200rpm and then I bought a rip off SSD. I would surely want to know how fast my SSD is in relation to the HDD. HOLY CRAP you are DUMB!!!!! Do us all a favor and take your computer put it in its box take it back to the store got it from and tell them you're too F*ing STUPID to own a computer!!!!!!
SSDs cannot be measured in RPM (revolutions per minute) because they have no moving parts. It does not make sense to try and compare the data transfer rates of a storage device in RPM in the first place, since RPM is not a measure of data transfer rate. Drives usually only come in either 5400 RPM, 7200 RPM, or 10000 RPM, but can have vastly different transfer rates. When you talk about how "fast" a drive is, you really should be using a capacity/time unit, such as kB/s, KB/s, mB/s, or MB/s.
they have a 15000 rom too so yeah but its like a giant flash drive kinda i guess but yeah no moving parts in a SDD it will be worth it in like about 3 yrs when its cheaper and every one is using it you know then the HDD is no longer needed hehe but yeah like we dont run computers off ram now haha yeah then came HDD now its SDD to take over you know later they will run stuff off like a crystal or something that mine idea so yeah that all but thats all
Normally I don't like to join the pointless flame wars, but this retarded fuckwit thinks that "YES we all know SSD's can reach up to 40k rpm". Do you know what RPM stands for? Can you tell me what the fuck is moving around in circles that fast in a SSD? Anything running at 5k RPM is slower than watching my dog take a shit. Boot up twice as fast you say? What, to load up the BIOS? Why do we let 13 year-olds onto the internet, what have we done...
So basically SSD is a waste of money ? You can get the wd for €160 and the OCZ costs from €350 upwards and from the video it seems there's very little difference in performance.
Thats incredibly slow for some reason.I just did the cod4 test of a new game startup and from the time i click start to the time the sas guy apears took a touch over 6 seconds, however on this video the ssd took a touch over 11 seconds?
My cod 4 game is installed on a Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1tb but i did run the game from win7.Idk why it would be faster than the raptors though unless its vista slowing his down?
so was this comparison with 1 drive of each? you mentioned raid 0 (striping) with 2 raptors.. so just curious if this config was broken to compare the speed with 1 drive to 1 or was the SS drive performing at the same speed as the Raptor stripe set?
I'm sold on this...just not right now..I'll wait for when they make higher capacity ones (300G +) and the cost goes down. I'm tired of hearing my current HDD laboring noisely
cool an end to mechanical drive failure I usualy get two second hand computers per year and over the last six years I've had to throw out about ten hard drives even after repairing them with software they just start clicking really loudly then stop working altogether, still a bit pricey : )
Decent vid. My intel E6320 stock loads windows 7 64 bit in only 45 seconds that's with 4gb of ram and 320gb 7200rpm hdd! Maxishines is pretty slow to say he paid $600 on a memory set up! I would be pissed offfffffff!
The first HDTV's sold for $10k, now some are as low as $1k.
My question is - if the power fails, doesn't this mean you lose everything on your SSD? Or is there some work around with a smart ups? Or is it as simple as recharging your cell phone - done overnight?
Well there are still many downsides to a SSD. For one, they have a lifespan of something like 1-2 years depending on your usage. Don't quote me on that, but it's significantly shorter than a HDD. Second, there's the capacity limits, 128GB is pretty tiny nowadays. Third, the price.. obviously. Fourth, the write speed on these is more or less the same as a HDD, so it only really benefits with reading where it can be up to twice as fast.
Well .. for 700 AUD, you can support about 7 homeless kids for 7 months . SSDs are not that fast because of other limitations in computer hardware. Only benefit you can get out of them is just resistance to shocks or do like RAID-0 for critical server environments.
.................so u wasted 700 bucks just so u could play with a stopwatch? That's just stupid.... I don't know what to say - u buy the most expensive gaming rig, not for gaming, but to compare one component to another? Jesus f'kin Christe.
For 700 dollars I could do.....anything, and u bought SSD. Heh.
Maybe he has the financial means to do so. Maybe he makes enough money to spend money as frivolous as it may seem to others. Or maybe, he spends money on such things to review them for people so they know what they get before purchasing such items.
that's amazing i have to admit, but my point was that this dude spent 700 dollars just to have almost exact same results. I didn't say SSD is shit or something, and I also stand by the fact that SSD is the future...
are you fucking seriously talking smack about maxishine because he bought an ssd??? 1. he can do whatever he wants to with his money, as can you. 2. i bet he makes more money in a month then you do in a year so 700AUD is no biggie. 3. THANK YOU maxshine for all of the videos
hey people wd raptor is a 10000rpm hd , u need a very nice cooling system to make this stable, 2nd 2.5 vs 3.5, compare the ssd with a standard laptop hdd (2.5) its s huge difference, SSD FTW!
I know that...sorry bout that. I forgot to mention that my friend's PC has a 500GB 7200RPM HDD. I can't remember the exact model. I built it for him quite some time ago. It is really slow, especially since he constantly has like 5 Firefox windows running.
What a waste of money.....!!!! Get a refund....
silversmoke100 2 months ago
wow, this was done in 2008
pianosidechat 8 months ago
its only half a second ahead.
Unknnnnn 8 months ago
just get the Corsair Performance 3 its cheaper
carlusdarienus 9 months ago
Not worth spending that much .. Maybe in 5 years time ..
astig168 10 months ago
652$ for a package that feels emty... ive got to try that out one time :p
GamerX7800X 10 months ago
How much porn can this save?
Thetrutv 11 months ago 2
@Thetrutv less than normal harddrive since this one has less space.
But u can access your porn faster :D
Unknnnnn 8 months ago
Awww :( I can't afford this at all
sgreen4 11 months ago
why dont u hav W7 instead of vista ??
Takashi0ukana 1 year ago
@Takashi0ukana windows 7 didnt exist 3 years ago =.=
AphamX 1 year ago
The price is outrageous! However, ignoring price this piece would be a dreamsend for laptops. A solid State means less moving parts which means less heat output
RobeonMew 1 year ago
$600! wow
AbuBishir 1 year ago
Yep.. Now that I've gone and seen some of the newer test, I can safely say that hard drives, even in RAID are starting to lose ground to SSD. Actually that time has already come and gone. My vote is to have main system on SSD, and keep an old hard drive around for big storage.
scrap1007 1 year ago
I'm not sure this gives an accurate representation because there seems to be some odd bottle neck in your system. For example, it took 42 seconds to boot to windows. I can however boot to windows in about 20 seconds with ONE, Green Western digital hard drive. Then when I put in a PNY SSD, I could boot in about 10 seconds which cut the time in 1/2.
scrap1007 1 year ago
Max Read: up to 285 MB/s, Max Write: up to 275 MB/s, Sustained Write: up to 250 MB/s, 4k Random Write (Aligned): 50,000 IOPS, Seek Time: 0.1ms. On the OCZ Technology 120 GB Vertex 2 Series. Which is faster then this one.
barf245 1 year ago
...having said all of that, i do believe SSD drives will replace mechanical HD drives within the next 10 years...as the cost will drop dramatically allowing more users to adopt the technology - further reducing the costs associated with manufacturing the drive (simple economics).
ugotbawlz 1 year ago
...well, sold me on the raptor
asillynoob 1 year ago
@asillynoob, his test is flawed because it shouldn't have taken over 40 seconds to boot. His computer must be a slow dinosaur. I can boot to windows in 10 seconds with ssd. And even if raptor is in raid, I think it would be a bit slower if he had demoed it on a better machine. But one thing the raptor can not come close to is random reads and writes as the SSD will be more than 10 times faster.
scrap1007 1 year ago
I mean, raptor would be slower in a relative sense on a faster computer because on the faster computer, the SSD can realize it's full transfer rate... But even if not so, then the randoms will will in the end. Thus making all file I/O seem much quicker.
scrap1007 1 year ago
lol, what a waste of money.. nothing in it..
robblac 1 year ago
@robblac the newer ones are faster and are made for Windows 7 cause it is the only Windows operating system that supports ssd vista needs to be tweaked to get the full performance. Look on the OCZ forums to learn how to do that.
barf245 1 year ago
the ocz Z-drive would make a bigger differance i think^^
Weini123 1 year ago
@Weini123 oh yea the revo drive is blazzin fast i just installed one on my dad rig its way faster than any current ssd except the zdrive bassically the same thing though
asus3571 1 year ago
650 dollars for about a split second difference hahaah whatever seriously waste of money
stussyboys 1 year ago
man i have addiction to hardware wtf seriously is that normal.
oxbadcoded 1 year ago
@oxbadcoded Its called being a greedy ass fuc__r he he i have the same problem and my mrs complains over how much i spend on shit :-) but hey you only live once so enjoy it
NeoReloaded00 1 year ago
not too much of a upgrade back in 2008....come check out some pro STARCRAFT2 commentaries in my channel....peace
Hazedream 1 year ago
i am thinking of getting 4 ssd's to run in raid 0. they are 64Gb £79.99
LLOYD19851012 1 year ago
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dude what do u do for work? how the do u afford all this stuff? its not the first time i heard u say u spent so much on a part
thechozen101 1 year ago
dude what do u do for work? how the hell do u afford all this stuff? its not the first time i heard u say u spent so much on a part
thechozen101 1 year ago
dude what do u do for work? how the hell do u afford all this stuff? its not the first time i heard u say u spent so much on a part
thechozen101 1 year ago
he had this in 2008. I'm just getting something similar now in 2010.
SiaSound 1 year ago
almost the same i got to say.
not worth the money
TheLem93 1 year ago
I still have my Raptors windows win764bit installed in it and this ssd compared to the rartors... there isn't much any difference. I would just raid two raptors and you will have an even faster booter drives than spend hundreds of bucks for ssds.
Merts478 1 year ago
@Merts478 the intel drives distroys the raptors , i had three raptors in raid zero and two intel drives in raid zero the intel drives distroys the WD, u can buy slow SSD drives and these are not that fast so not a good test
warwith1n 1 year ago
@warwith1n It's good to know. I didn't spend dollars on the SSD' then because they were just new on the market and they were expensive. But, now they have very good ones and not as expensive as before.
I'd like to know your computer specs if you don't mind.
Merts478 1 year ago
@Merts478 the intel ones are the best ones to buy , i have owned the samsung as well as the patriot and i now own INTEL and they are far the best ones i have owned , the write speeds are slower but the read speed are the best , and u will see more performance gain with one intel over a sumsung drive
warwith1n 1 year ago
@warwith1n I want to upgrade now to SSD for my OS, but I will do it when I build another machine. I love building computers.
Merts478 1 year ago
@Merts478 Go with a intel drive u will see more of a perfomance gain , I owned the new samsung drives and windows only rated the speed to be a 5.9 , and the intel was rated at a 7.4 , when i raided the samsung it felt ok but the intels drives in raid was fast
warwith1n 1 year ago
whats the main diffreence between an ssd drive and a ordinary SATA drive? other than price.
LFCforEver12341 1 year ago
@LFCforEver12341 Read/Write speeds and seek time is basically gone. HDD drives usually have an 11 to 15ms seek time, SSDs are 0-1ms.
lxcivic2k1 1 year ago
@LFCforEver12341
the SSD act like the CPU and RAM yes that means if you have low cpu you can boost it up with this thing and the SATA drive is pretty much a hard drive that run from the sata cable
hmobvaj2 1 year ago
now, 2 years after this video was posted ssd drives are obviously much cheaper but I think I will wait a little bit more before switching, for now my 7200rpm drive will be good enough I guess
alex14469 1 year ago
my hp laptop 5400 rpm hdd starts up in a minute 10 flat
qfour20 1 year ago
trouble is it's still very expensive very small storage, maybe next year will be cheaper
randommanization 1 year ago
Did you get any real data with your tests?
I imported (to Aus) the Kingston SNM225-S2/160GB (Intel X25 M) for AU$510 in December 2009. It gives me ~230Mb/sec read speed & ~80Mb/sec write.
Windows 7 takes ~4 seconds to boot.
Anamnesia 1 year ago
Well done video.
otterboxiphone 1 year ago
They are now aprox $250 so don't complain about price
dacooter 1 year ago
@dacooter
Tigerdirect has the 228 gig for like 239.00 us
Manongjojo 1 year ago
@Manongjojo i wish i knew that before i bought mine.
dacooter 1 year ago
@Manongjojo I think you mean 128gb, still 240 us is some price.
Jackiechan39 1 year ago
$1,500 canadian for a 500gb SSD atm lol wow..
chizzy555 1 year ago
This is a terrible review. It looks like you just took a webcam and put it in a watermelon. Your an idiot.
poopininpants 1 year ago
which is the best ssd today?
korgpadude 1 year ago
COME ON man.. for half the cost you can get at least twice the storage, and what's the gain from that SSD like 5-10% from the raptor?
pay the same, get two raptor drives then run em' in RAID 0 and it'l be faster..
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Danny7930 1 year ago
This video is 18 months old! You run two of today's SSD's in RAID 0 and you are talking 500MB+ read! Can two raptors do this? No.
MagnusVideos 1 year ago
Ither your velociraptor is on crack or your SSD is awful lol
Mr937595 1 year ago
Two things! 1. This SSD review is 18 months old. And 2. I am assuming you still own a velociraptor.
MagnusVideos 1 year ago
Not really worth the extra cash unless you are terrified of Hard Drive failure. Considering that if you absolutely depend on the information contained on your hard drive & the cost of recovering that information is almost $5000.00 for lab recovery. It Might not be a bad choice. But only if it is really Important to you.
wingnut4427 2 years ago
Not sure its worth 700 dollars for a 2 second faster boot.
FroggyVector 2 years ago 2
@FroggyVector hes comparing with a WD Velociraptor
thats a fucking beast of a hardrive. Its like the fastest HARDRIVE you can get. but yea i would probably get the WD velociraptor its cheaper * $300 and has a larger storage *300 gb i think.
RoCRoikar 2 years ago
@RoCRoikar
No, the fastest you can get is a 15K RPM SCSI hard drive.
poopguypenis2 1 year ago
@poopguypenis2
its quite expensive dam
i didnt even know they made those kind of hardrives =O
im still just going to run 2 WD Velociraptor in RAID 0
RoCRoikar 1 year ago
@poopguypenis2 where can i get that? small computer system interface? or component?
heavypeki 1 year ago
old vid, 2 ssd's in raid 0 will rape now
nictherocker 1 year ago
Only flaw with SSD is the limited writes per cell. If they fix that the adoption of it would be MUCH quicker.
Twisted86 2 years ago
what a joke!!!! buhahahaha 652$ after this review only an idiot would buy this. thatnk for the info...saved me some money!!
MrD1ss 2 years ago
If you used one for one day, you'd never go back.
lemonrind 2 years ago
Why didnt you get the Intel x25-M isn't it faster than this Vertex Turbo
jincuteguy 2 years ago
alot faster.. but the size is only 80gigs
haha48 2 years ago
This video was made in July 17, 2008, that's why.
Hungerth 2 years ago
I asked a question at chris' live chat pertaining to increasing my frames in games and he recommended buying a SSD. Does buying a sdd actually up my frames?
jetblack297 2 years ago
... SSD obviously will replace regular HD in the future, but for now that thing is good only for one thing - HELP TO DROP PRICES ON 10-15K V-RAPTORS!
andrewbuki 2 years ago 7
@andrewbuki how can 2 different hard drives be faster than others??? i have raptors myself
snowydro1 1 year ago
@snowydro1 ...just an example that I'd rather live in a 3 bedroom apartment in south brooklyn than in a small studio apartment near central park in Manhattan :)
andrewbuki 1 year ago
@snowydro1 - it has everything to do with moving parts, heat, and search/seek time. that is what FAST means. the Raptors are plenty fast...although they do generate some heat and noise. i have had mine for years with no problems - they (Raptors) are classified as enterprise drives...that is the reason they are/were so costly. i still don't like the storage to cost ratio on the Raptors, but the SSDs are even more costly - and the added speed does not warrant the additional cost in my opinion.
ugotbawlz 1 year ago
why are solid state drive so much more expensive?
HooDwin1 2 years ago 2
SSD's use chips (integrated circuits) made up of transistors like a CPU instead of a spinning disk like a HDD. Since SSD's use transistors, they follow Moore's Law meaning the transistors can be shrunk, pushed to work faster, cost less, and run cooler every every year. The cost per gigabyte on a circuit of transistors is currently more expensive than the cost per gigabyte on a disk.
kittnkillr 2 years ago
i dont think an extra second or two is worth paying quadruple the price of a hard drive
krispy42008 2 years ago
It's not only speed. SSD has also the benefit of having no moving parts making it overall a safer and more efficient drive.
ChrispyChicken007 2 years ago
It's true power lies in RAID.
inkofdeath230 2 years ago
Never in my life will spend the money for something that is going to cost 50 dollars maybee 5 years or less down the line.
R32Viper 2 years ago
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"this one's from O C Zed"... sorry, just makes me laugh.
nice review though, thanks
bobdonda 2 years ago
@bobdonda That is what the rest of the world calls it...
Prairielander 2 years ago 2
tbh the ssd doesnt look that much faster compared to that wd velocripter? ..i have no idea what it is, but man your computer is just fast in general! lol
hideo0gawa 2 years ago 3
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WTF!!!!! ITS SOO FUCKIN SMALLL!!!!
xXxreallydontcarexXx 2 years ago
Thanks for the review. Although it is obviously fast, there is not enough benefit to justify the cost in my opinion. I will keep my Raptors for now. Again, thanks for the review.
ugotbawlz 2 years ago 11
@ugotbawlz Well speed isn't only reason will buy a solid state drive. The properties of it being solid state make it very valuable, especially in laptops.
They take less power. They offer superior shock resistance and will run virtually forever due to no moving parts. No more lost data due to mechanical failure. No "spin up" times. Data at the speed of yesterday lol
With time capacity will go up and price will come down dramatically.
CMRage 1 year ago
@ugotbawlz Right on bro. I'd love to have it. Just not willing to go there. A 400GB one is the cost of a computer.
suspekt29 1 year ago
@ugotbawlz
There's no need to be a Luddite. You don't drive to work with a horse and buggy do you? This is new exciting technology, of course it will be expensive at first.
monkeyman1140 1 year ago
@monkeyman1140 dude...i am not being an archaic Luddite...i am approaching it from a COMMON SENSE and PRACTICAL standpoint... of course it will come down with time. it is called economics and economies of scale - don't be a moronic sheep that rushes out to drop a dime on everything tech. case in point... i could have bought a $5K to $6K plasma TV about 5 years ago - but i didn't. i waited five years and bought the same or better tech for $670.00 USD. it's a WANT...NOT a need.
ugotbawlz 1 year ago
@ugotbawlz i agree its fast but the cost is a killer i got a crucial 128gb m225 for free so cost wasnt an issue here though i bet once youve went solidstate you wont go back to magnetic storage
asus3571 1 year ago
@ugotbawlz what do you mean fast? i have raptors.. i do not understand how 2 HD's speed can be different...explain please
snowydro1 1 year ago
@ugotbawlz compared to the raptors it may not be much but if you compare a cheap SSD to a HDD of similar cost, the difference is ridiculous.
illuvitar 1 year ago
SATA protocols are already way above what any traditional setup can get, at 3GB/s even a bunch of these in a RAID setup wont come close
biggitysmallz 2 years ago
This is true, but the way most systems are designed they do not take full advantage of that, so they are not as good as they could be. Look at this man's video and you'll see that solid state is not as good as it could be. I feel that proves my point.
dndslayer 2 years ago 2
Until sata 6.0 comes out these drives are not worth buying. They are not being used to their full potential. Plus from the benchmarks you show you are not getting enough of a performance gain to justify the money you spend.
dndslayer 2 years ago 3
well I would get a pcie one, so its a non issue, or go scsi.
dukeljk 2 years ago
That's a good point, scsi drives are damn fast. They are not as expensive as they used to be and they do give good performance and speed.
dndslayer 2 years ago
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where does this noob get all this shit...rich?
SRNF 2 years ago
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just ordered the ocz vertex 250 gb yesterday should be here monday
IRud3Bwoy 2 years ago
i have two of these in raid 0 and its pretty awesome. but i also have a 1tb harddrive along with it.
lucianos1990 2 years ago
Das nützt Dir alles nichts wenn Du mit einem "alten" Kontroller rumkränkelst.
thule1291 2 years ago
Entirely un-impressive.
linuxguy2009 2 years ago
haha this is some funny shit hear lol
robp1p 2 years ago
I think my wifes Mac boots up twice as fast as this. She has a spinning disk HDD that runs at somewhere around 5k rpm. There's really not much point in spending large amounts of cash on a Solid State Drive right now. Too expensive and watch out for the Con-Artists. As there are programs on the market that report larger capacity and speed than there actually is on these ssds.
ihatecountry 2 years ago
5K rpm is horrible, even for a laptop. Laptops a a ripoff for home users, Apple is bad for any application that isn't rendering. SSD drives blow away 10k rps raptor drives, so for every thing from boot up to gaming it's SSD>HDD. HDD is only superior in capacity. Try running photoshop and aftereffects.
TheCFTube 2 years ago 2
I'm guessing you've never had a Mac. My wife is a pro photographer. And has never had any problems with the speed of her laptop. YES we all know SSD's can reach up to 40k rpm, but there's just no point to buying them for large amounts of cash. To save let's see about 10 seconds?
ihatecountry 2 years ago
I've had a Mac and a PC, that is irrelevant. The reason it is called an SSD (SOLID STATE DISK) is because it has NO moving parts; 0 RPM. These things have seek times close to zero, and will continue to grow in size and get cheaper. Of course you say there is no problem, because there isn't. Some people just like speed. 10 Seconds? Be realistic, the savings in time is worth it. If you have a quad core CPU at 3.0 GHz, 12 GB of RAM, but a 5400 RPM hard drive, you WILL see a performance drop.
xian1243 2 years ago
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Sounds to me like you're trying to sell a load of SSD'S, which is pretty lame. Own a little computer store do we? SSD's right now ARE NOT WORTH IT!! PERIOD!!! They are EXPENSIVE AS HELL and there is very little preformance improvement. Just because you have had a Mac and a PC does not make what I say irrelevant. FOOL!!! And yes we all do know what Solid State means. I was talking in terms of equivalence. What a freakin MORON YOU TRULY ARE!!!!!
ihatecountry 2 years ago
$199 for a SSD 64GB
110 for a 1TB SATA
Id pay that amount for the 64gb, and put everything else on the 1tb
chriseather321 2 years ago
You're the moron, what are you, 12 years old? I don't own a computer store, and neither am I lame. Sure they are expensive, take a look at the first PC's, my POINT was, that performance wise, SSD is the way to go (for the OS) and a regular HDD for storage. And, yes it does make your statement irrelevant, there is no equivalence, SSDs don't spin. Go to school before posting and learn some proper manners. Gosh, why so many idiots on YouTube?
xian1243 2 years ago
OMG you are so DUMB. Ofcourse there's equivalence you IDIOT!!!! If I have a normal HDD that runs at 7200rpm and then I bought a rip off SSD. I would surely want to know how fast my SSD is in relation to the HDD. HOLY CRAP you are DUMB!!!!! Do us all a favor and take your computer put it in its box take it back to the store got it from and tell them you're too F*ing STUPID to own a computer!!!!!!
ihatecountry 2 years ago
SSDs cannot be measured in RPM (revolutions per minute) because they have no moving parts. It does not make sense to try and compare the data transfer rates of a storage device in RPM in the first place, since RPM is not a measure of data transfer rate. Drives usually only come in either 5400 RPM, 7200 RPM, or 10000 RPM, but can have vastly different transfer rates. When you talk about how "fast" a drive is, you really should be using a capacity/time unit, such as kB/s, KB/s, mB/s, or MB/s.
lemonrind 2 years ago
oi
they have a 15000 rom too so yeah but its like a giant flash drive kinda i guess but yeah no moving parts in a SDD it will be worth it in like about 3 yrs when its cheaper and every one is using it you know then the HDD is no longer needed hehe but yeah like we dont run computers off ram now haha yeah then came HDD now its SDD to take over you know later they will run stuff off like a crystal or something that mine idea so yeah that all but thats all
the end
:P
IAMDAVEAMI 2 years ago
lololololol
unowiel 2 years ago
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MagnusVideos 2 years ago
Normally I don't like to join the pointless flame wars, but this retarded fuckwit thinks that "YES we all know SSD's can reach up to 40k rpm". Do you know what RPM stands for? Can you tell me what the fuck is moving around in circles that fast in a SSD? Anything running at 5k RPM is slower than watching my dog take a shit. Boot up twice as fast you say? What, to load up the BIOS? Why do we let 13 year-olds onto the internet, what have we done...
raintee0612 2 years ago
Equivalence. Read the entire conversation before you start your inane blasts. Otherwise don't talk fool!!!
ihatecountry 2 years ago
wat is a solid state drive
petersin71395 2 years ago
So basically SSD is a waste of money ? You can get the wd for €160 and the OCZ costs from €350 upwards and from the video it seems there's very little difference in performance.
okee9 2 years ago
he's comparing it to another solid state drive set up.
Weber7385 2 years ago
No there aren't any WD VelociRaptor SSD drives from what i can see, it's a standard sata 10,000 rpm drive.
okee9 2 years ago
Thats incredibly slow for some reason.I just did the cod4 test of a new game startup and from the time i click start to the time the sas guy apears took a touch over 6 seconds, however on this video the ssd took a touch over 11 seconds?
My cod 4 game is installed on a Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1tb but i did run the game from win7.Idk why it would be faster than the raptors though unless its vista slowing his down?
RhODomhnaill 2 years ago
Wow, just looked them up. no way I can afford one for another year or so
edicol 2 years ago
that's focking amazing i already have -4
lol
why
ow btw maxishine
keep up the movies i really like them and i'm from the netherlands you can see that because my english is no that good XD
is a ssd realy so mutch faster than an raptor
pleite567 2 years ago
nice, i think you have a illegale windows vista lol , i see that because there is boot something XD
pleite567 2 years ago
boot camp
jpbisce 2 years ago
is it ps3 compatible?
74tron 2 years ago
probably not...
hrmarinkovic 2 years ago
I want one in a laptop. That would be cool. Silence is golden
Somewittynamehere 2 years ago
hardly no difference really. i wasted my money on my 2 ssd's then lol.
RKOver17 2 years ago
this video is 1 year old, todays ssd's are much quicker than the ones reviewd :P
MrD0BR0 2 years ago
I'd wait until the price for ssd comes way down. The raptor is only a few seconds behind
showtime302 2 years ago 2
so was this comparison with 1 drive of each? you mentioned raid 0 (striping) with 2 raptors.. so just curious if this config was broken to compare the speed with 1 drive to 1 or was the SS drive performing at the same speed as the Raptor stripe set?
Bronwenbrown 2 years ago
I'm sold on this...just not right now..I'll wait for when they make higher capacity ones (300G +) and the cost goes down. I'm tired of hearing my current HDD laboring noisely
KOs231 2 years ago
cool an end to mechanical drive failure I usualy get two second hand computers per year and over the last six years I've had to throw out about ten hard drives even after repairing them with software they just start clicking really loudly then stop working altogether, still a bit pricey : )
danielgjv 2 years ago
nice boot-loader for your vista there ;)
nf1n1ty666 2 years ago
Decent vid. My intel E6320 stock loads windows 7 64 bit in only 45 seconds that's with 4gb of ram and 320gb 7200rpm hdd! Maxishines is pretty slow to say he paid $600 on a memory set up! I would be pissed offfffffff!
billionaire1992 2 years ago
just a note, windows 7 is designed to start up faster.. so ur not comparing apples to apples here :)
Bronwenbrown 2 years ago
well thats windows seven which loads faster
Woeboez 2 years ago
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for 2 sec i rather to keep my actual HD intead of the SSD
beisdes the comparative is wrong made
Meteorix007 2 years ago
wow tats slow, my windows xp take 20seconds 2 fully load.
guerillacity 2 years ago
The first HDTV's sold for $10k, now some are as low as $1k.
My question is - if the power fails, doesn't this mean you lose everything on your SSD? Or is there some work around with a smart ups? Or is it as simple as recharging your cell phone - done overnight?
LivingDog94 2 years ago
It's flash memory, like a USB stick. The memory remains after power is turned off.
falkon212 2 years ago
Thanks dude. Now I want one. :)
About the weight - use a postage scale - or wouldn't that be listed in the specs?
Since this is just memory then the price will come down the more gamers hear about this - and buy buy buy!
Finally, why use a hardrive ever again???
LivingDog94 2 years ago
Well there are still many downsides to a SSD. For one, they have a lifespan of something like 1-2 years depending on your usage. Don't quote me on that, but it's significantly shorter than a HDD. Second, there's the capacity limits, 128GB is pretty tiny nowadays. Third, the price.. obviously. Fourth, the write speed on these is more or less the same as a HDD, so it only really benefits with reading where it can be up to twice as fast.
I would wait a few years before buying one..
falkon212 2 years ago
Thanks, sound advice if ever I heard.
LivingDog94 2 years ago
well when you take the battery out of your cell phone do all the pictures get erased? no
WC9456 2 years ago
wow vista takes forever to startup O_O
SillySnake72 2 years ago
Well .. for 700 AUD, you can support about 7 homeless kids for 7 months . SSDs are not that fast because of other limitations in computer hardware. Only benefit you can get out of them is just resistance to shocks or do like RAID-0 for critical server environments.
Thats disappointing i must say.
balochster 2 years ago
Correction.. not RAID-0, RAID-6 is for critical server environments.
balochster 2 years ago
.................so u wasted 700 bucks just so u could play with a stopwatch? That's just stupid.... I don't know what to say - u buy the most expensive gaming rig, not for gaming, but to compare one component to another? Jesus f'kin Christe.
For 700 dollars I could do.....anything, and u bought SSD. Heh.
Bogdan901 2 years ago
Maybe he has the financial means to do so. Maybe he makes enough money to spend money as frivolous as it may seem to others. Or maybe, he spends money on such things to review them for people so they know what they get before purchasing such items.
BrokenHorn90 2 years ago
game load times from 2 minutes 48 seconds down to 7 seconds, yeah thats really pointless isnt it?
SSDs are the way of the future
predeturd 2 years ago
what 2 minutes 48 sec are u retarded? COD4 loaded in 13 sec on both raptors and SSD, similar situation with crysis. What were u looking at?!
Bogdan901 2 years ago
my own results.
predeturd 2 years ago
that's amazing i have to admit, but my point was that this dude spent 700 dollars just to have almost exact same results. I didn't say SSD is shit or something, and I also stand by the fact that SSD is the future...
Bogdan901 2 years ago
my only problem with them is how fucking expensive they are XD
dubmywub 2 years ago
youd waste 600bucks for a CPU % of 2-4%... and a half a second load time...
go do something productive and Fap for gods sake this is just a waste of cash
ryanc4992 2 years ago
that models not good - u need the new ocz vertex series or the corsair ones (rebadged samsung) - they are much faster with no stuttering
unfortunatelty the price matches the performance
davidsmithification 2 years ago
what a waste of money.. not faster at all..
pineapplepootytang 2 years ago
Just litte faster nerly nothing
murreboy 2 years ago
yep! what a fucking noob
wasting money on shit products when he could do something better like donating to poor kids
WE DON GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR REVIEWS MAN! go fuck your wife instead
xStalkerxx 2 years ago
why would u watch this and then go and say that?
hes testing shit so we dont have to, infact a few people are probably glad he did this review, he might have saved them wasting alot of money.
devourment8800 2 years ago 2
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i knew this is trash before i even watched it
SSD's are years away from being 1% perfect
this loser spends money on crap like this when he could do something better
only a rich noob will say an SSD is better than my Velociraptor
who the fuck buys this shit anyway?
wastf of money
fucking taliban
xStalkerxx 2 years ago
Nobody now thanks to his review for the peoples sake, and no need to get racist man
sukmyback 2 years ago
get that fukin dick out ur ass
GaanTech 2 years ago 2
are you fucking seriously talking smack about maxishine because he bought an ssd??? 1. he can do whatever he wants to with his money, as can you. 2. i bet he makes more money in a month then you do in a year so 700AUD is no biggie. 3. THANK YOU maxshine for all of the videos
jsid7 2 years ago
the OCZ SSD boot time is the same as my 2.5" 120GB SATA1 drive! It only reads 60MB sec
chrischoy9 2 years ago
hey people wd raptor is a 10000rpm hd , u need a very nice cooling system to make this stable, 2nd 2.5 vs 3.5, compare the ssd with a standard laptop hdd (2.5) its s huge difference, SSD FTW!
Davastus 2 years ago
Isn't it Dumb how the SATA Power connectors are bigger then the Data SATA Connectors.
Vista is Soooo Slow! XP 32 only takes like 25 to 30 sec to start.
Crysis didn't look like it loaded much faster.
Looks like an Expensive Upgrade for almost nothing.
Vary good info Video. Good job! :)
Xigmatek 2 years ago
I know that...sorry bout that. I forgot to mention that my friend's PC has a 500GB 7200RPM HDD. I can't remember the exact model. I built it for him quite some time ago. It is really slow, especially since he constantly has like 5 Firefox windows running.
JetpackSniper08 2 years ago
Holy crap Crysis loaded fast. They were both about 17 seconds, my friends PC takes well over a minute. Probably time to DEFRAG :P
JetpackSniper08 2 years ago
You must remember that this video was uploaded last summer and the technology has gotten much better since then
donjr22 2 years ago
128gb about $250-$300 now, depending on the brand.
Didn't see much (if any) difference. Sure, the SSD won by about 1.5 seconds on both benchmarks, but only someone real anal would care about that.
jk19918 2 years ago