This Is Exactly What Is Going To happen If Mayweather jr Fights Pacquiao...He Is Going To Keep Running, covering up and Countering but Pacquiao's continuous brutal assult will eventually take a toll on his body and he will be forced to fight back..and thats exactly what Pacquiao is going to want
Mayweather Sr. had a bad right hand and a permanently damage leg. This could have been an amazing fight if Floyd Sr. was in peak condition. I grew up watching Leonard; He sure had some amazing stamina & power!
That is what you call a one sided beat down...geez fight wouldve been stopped in these times ago...9-10 unanswerd punches.... intresting seeing Floyds shoulder roll defence tho that he passed down to his son....Floyd jr perfected it tho.
@Pygmonicus; How do you think this Leonard would do against the Floyd that fought Oscar? This is definately what Pac would need to do to Floyd Jr. but I don't think (for obvious reasons) Floyd Sr. was as hard a puncher as Floyd Jr. is. I noticed Floyd Sr. did counter Leonard a lot during this fight but with Floyd's hand being broken, Leonard just walked right through those punched with complete disregard.
sugar in his prime was a complete package.. Speed, Power(in both hands), great foot work, a great chin and phenomenal skill... but then again most top ten fighters where in that class too. Marvelous Marvin Hagler, tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran....
see what happened to mayweather sr.vs.sugar rey leonard...because same as his son floyd gayweather jr.good only in talking,not in boxing!and if mayweather jr.can request a big size boxing ring so he can run around,and run around,and run around!!!llol!!!
Face it. They're not the same fighters. Similar? Yeah. They're from the same school of boxing, but Jr. is a far better fighter. More physically gifted and even more technical defensively. In a large or small boxing ring, the guy's a monster.
floyd jr is much faster than his father ever was, he moves his head much more and his punches are more accurate. Anyway sugar ray was a fucking beast so of course he trashed floyd sr.
I love this vid. Sugar Ray Leonard definitely one of the GREATEST of all time and one of my most favorite fighters as well. Mayweather was better off on his skates like Jr.Running is there game.
Haha. Cosell say's "Mayweather is stunned". Must have been a wicked punch, because Mayweather is still stunned. Actually, two generations are stunned. Leonard hit him so hard, he arrested the development of two generations.
@arraza1000 dude im not getting into an argument with you because you probably dont know much about boxing, you're trying to compare sugar ray and pacquiao that's disgusting... but not actually worse than comparing floyd mayweather jr with mayweather sr.
@brightonblock Lmfao, what? He and his son are Southern Paw fighters. If you look at all South Paws they all stand like that, from back then till now. Look at James Toney, or even Thomas Hearns, he wasnt really a South Paw but he'd occasionally switch to thay defensive posture.
WOW look at Leonard he was such an impressive boxer. Sr though does a very poor Mayweather guard and thats all he got here in this fight. He may of invented, developed and taught that but boy did Jr take it to the next level with timing, footwork and all round fight smarts.
Yap yap yap who gives a fuck golden boy and top rank can never make big fights with one another it's been that way for years. Also this ducking nonsense has no effect on the fighters ability in the ring so shut up kill yourself...... Now to the main topic floods dad is the ugliest Negro to ever be in a ring lololol
I love to see sugar ray as the aggressor, usually he's used to being the slicker smoother fighter in the ring but in some instances he chooses to punch instead of box, like the first fight with tommy hearns, or the first fight with duran but the latter didnt turn out so good for ray. It shows how versatile ray really was, he could box,move,stick and jab, or he could bang up close and personal. Respect to SRL
Sugar Ray is one of the all time greatest fighters. However you have to realize Mayweather took this fight on 2 weeks notice and had broken his right hand less during a fight he took 2-3 weeks prior demonstrating why he was sparingly using the right hand. He also was knocked down from punches that hit him on his right gloves- the hand which had been fractured. He didn't even take any shots to subdue the pain in his hands and fought it out. Without the broken hand I think Leonard woulda won tho
LOL u blind? go watch the trilogy manny vs marquez, 1st n 2nd marquez always got knock out :D and decision is draw how many x did he knock out 3-4x and its draw? wow that is fair right? LOL! on the 3rd it was fight it was closed fight infavor of manny winning by 4 points ok retardo? dont be a sore loser marquez is goo fighter but now good enough! :D hahaha... watch the slow motion.
MARQUEZ WHOOPED PACQUIAO'S ASS! & FLOYD WOULD 2! PACMAN HAS BEEN EXPOSED! SO ALL U IDIOTS WHO PROBABLLY DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE 3RD JMM VS PAC FIGHT BUT WANT 2 ACT LIKE BOXING EXPERTS SHUT THE FUCK UP!
@ELxBATMAN45 lol marquez whoops manny ass? who got down in the canvas 4 times? who's face is more beat up? who's the one keeping on backing away and doesnt engage in the fight rather w8 for an opportunity to counter. now who's ass got whooped? btw, getting ur ass whoop is different from being countered.
I bet Floyd jr has been watching this, given his father same style of boxing, and speed of Sugar Ray like that of Pacquiao with a killer knockout punch. PBF will be shakin' in his boots to even think of sparring with him.
i think this is one of the reasons why floyd doesnt want to fight pacquiao.. look at those barage of punches sugar was throwing. pacquiao throws lots of punches like that, and floyd defends like his father, i think its mayweather sr. who advised his son not to fight pacquiao
@bomper575 i know, but the style isnt, besides what makes floyd different to his father is the way he fights, if u watch closely in this fight, sugar was setting sr. up. manny can do that if evr they fght, that would be trouble some for floyd, floyd needs to be extra careful on throwing his right straight cause it vould be a trap, like in this vid, sr. was doing a rope a dope and sugar was just atckng like hell, then suddenly sugar looks tired, then sr. goes boom but the other way around happen
@blitsziro All I'm saying is Saturday Nights fight for Pacman showed he isn't ready for Floyd. He had problems with a counter puncher that Floyd annihilated. Manny is going to be in trouble. IF THEY ever fight now. Manny just hurt his rep.
@bomper575 nah i dont think so, i dont think that would be it, floyd is not the guy who counters consecutive punches and throw 3-4 combinations, usualy he just run around then get a timing for straight.. as for pacquiao's problem is how's he gonna set floyd up, the thing is, floyd will w8, pacquiao would be chargin, if pacquiao w8, floyd wont attack, like what marquez did, they know its over if they attk pacman head on, manny can win on while defensive and passive, floyd just defensive.
@blitsziro Well Floyd is the better boxer. So, if they bring it to a pure boxing match, Mannys going to lose. Freddy knows that. They have to overwhelm Floyd early on with a lot of aggression I think. Floyd starts to shutter a little bit when he gets hit with a good punch. He isn't the same for that entire round. The thing about Floyd though is he can fight just as good on the ropes as he can around the ring. I don't see Manny having the required material to outbox Floyd.
@bomper575 mope i dont think so, i think he will just be swaying back, full defense.. refer from the floyds last match against ortiz. in round 4. pacquiao is a lot fast than ortiz, and stronger of course.
@bomper575 no pacquiao is definitely stronger, im sure of it. pacquiao has better right hand. he can knock bigger opponents by his right hand. wether u agree or not, the thing is floyd will have problem if he get hits with pacquiao's right especially his left, ortiz doesnt have that, including pacquiao's agility inside the ring. also defensively.
@blitsziro UmmmmDid you happen to see Pac Vs Marquez sir? No one in the world now thinks Pac has a chance with Floyd..including Pac! They emailed Floyd this morning, they no longer want the fight as of now, they want a Marquez 4!!LOL
@STONRUNNIT thats differenr dumb dumb, like i said, the thing is manny pacquiao is the one agressive, we all know marquez is a good counter puncher, which pacquiao has difficulties, but the thing is, marquez cant go agressive on him, why? cause its dangerous for marquez, u can say that becuz floyd wont be the one attacking, put it this way, who would win if marquez is the attacking head on, same to mayweather
@blitsziro Man Floyd can do what ever he wants when ever he wants..and be effective.Counter punching is just one on Floyd's many tools. Watch his past 2 fights Shane,and Ortiz...backed those guys up with aggressiveness. He can fight aggressive, counter, fight going backwards...again, Floyd toys with Pac
@STONRUNNIT yeah right, go watch ortiz match with floyd, on round 4. ortiz landed good shots and did hurt floyd, but suddenly the head but and of course the cheap shot.. really floyd toys pac? ask shane, delahoya, and hatton.
@blitsziro Why would i go ask them? Shouldn't i ask a guy who's style is closest to Floyd..lke say ahhh....MARQUEZ!!! .. the 38 year old lightweight? The guy who exposed and banged Pac?The guy who couldn't win a single round with Floyd?..Yeah, i think i'll go ask that guy, oh wait, they've already asked him that 2 years ago. Marquez said Floyd is better than Pac...Come to grips with in man..you can still be a Pac fan, i actually like the little fella..just aint fuckin with Floyd thats all LOL
@STONRUNNIT wow thnx for the incentive, let me point out one thing, banged pac? nope i dont think so, countered yes.. anything can happen in boxing, just becuz floyd beat up marquez means pacquiao doesnt stand a chanc. the only reason marquez countered pac efficiently cause he's the one w8ting, all he did is go backwards and w8 for him.. if pac wont attk then he wont. put it this way marquez will be the agressor, thats a whole new story now.
@STONRUNNIT marquez is a bit different to floyd PBF doesn't trade punches he hit and run then dominate his opponent after they get frustrated and lose stamina marquez step back or in like we seen in pacquiao and he then trade punches
@kenndiata HIit and run? Man i've seen Floyd hit and run, back down opponents (bigger opponents, Shane ,Ortiz,) trade punches, brawl, box..Floyd does it all!!
@STONRUNNIT part2: btw, also keep in mind their still planning on it.. IT wasnt final yet.. and for go ask floyd y did he accuse pacquiao then deny it suddenly, says his next then denies it. who's dodging now?
@blitsziro man why on earth would arum be pushing so hard for a Marquez 4? Top Rank has refused to negotiate with mayweather. There is no one else to blame. Floyd set a date and said he wants to make the biggest fight possible
@cpaignboxing u see we still dont know, maybe after a few months will know or after newyears eve. will know, besides they already made the negotiations before, but theres still lots of faux conception and blah blah speculations, i dont want to say anything about those promoters, i preffer to judged from mayweathers actions and words, like take the test, ur next? wont cause much ppv? accusing then denying. better read the lines well, its up to you how u synthesize those words
@blitsziro Na Floyd Jr. doesn't jus sit there in take hard ass body shots like that..he would just roll or check any punch thrown his way..Jr. is way better than Sr.
@blitsziro Floyd defends better than his father. He also counters about 1,000x better. Pacquiao slows down when he faces good counter punchers as any smart boxer would. I think Floyd would beat pac if they faced eachother. Marquez is a similar fighter to Floyd, just not as powerful and not that great of defense. But he has amazing counter ability similar to Floyd.
@oneworldkingdom yeah maybe, but i dont think he can K0 pac, but pac can. and also, if ever they fight i dont think floyd would be chargin or the one being agressive, all day he'll be swaying back and w8 pacquiao.. like what other boxers do when they faced him, but things would be different if they would take the risk
@blitsziro, You're wrong. Floyd does have some similarities of the way his father used to fight, but Floyd Jr's defense is more advanced. Manny Pacquiao is no Sugar Ray Leonard, and Floyd Jr is a better versatile Boxer than his father ever was.
@MrWade365 i believe pac is more versatile than floyd, the thing is, pac is more powerful puncher than floyd, if ever they fought pac will be the agressor always will. not floyd, no boxer would ever take the risk to be agressive on pac. not even floyd. i do know one thing too, one way to counter the shoulder roll is to attack the continuously the shoulder until it hurts, castillo did that, floyd had problem in that. ofcourse it would be bigger problem if pac is the one doing that
@dkxlion really? have u ever seen floyd fought someone like pac? or has he ever fought a boxer where he stands toe to toe with like what pac usually does?
@blitsziro thats not what were talking about.. you said floyd defends like his father.. but he defends nothing like his father.. floyd wouldnt just stand still and let the opponent keep swinging like that.. you know he wouldnt.. floyd does defend but completely diffrent to snr. and the example your looking for. mosley.. (he stood toe to toe with) and has he ever fought a boxer like pacquiao.. yes plenty (style wise)
@dkxlion yeah he is, they have the same style, its just that floyd is better. floyd woudnt ofcourse, but he will clinch like what his dad does, with who mosley? really, i dont think so, he maximize his defense on mosley. mosley is more of the agressor in that fight. really he fought someone like pac? never seen any 8 division champ he fought.
@blitsziro pacquiao cant fight people who step backwards he just lunges forward with his feet out of position missing wildly and getting caught on the counter which is what happened with jmm. Hes definetly not more versatile floyd, he seems 1 dimensional and doesnt seem to have the ring IQ to change and adjust his game plan when things are not going his way.
@DazzaBellz well i agree about pac cant make changes on gameplan..but he's been knocking boxers who keeps on backing, which is why, things would be different if pac is the one countering. sad to say, no boxer would take that risk to be the agressor on him. still i think pac is more versatile, he just lack ring iq, if he has it, even if floyd is smarter, pac would definitely be in a whole new level. still, his physical ability makes up for it
@blitsziro pacquiao always fights fighters that are aggressor's and bring the fight to him like cotto, hatton, de la hoya, margarito, morales, barrera. they are the only styles which pacquiao looks good against. when he fights pure boxers like jmm he doesnt have an answer. the reason why floyds more versatile is because he rarely fights the same style he adjusts his style to give him the advantage, he can lead, counter, hang on the ropes. he throws combos when he needs to as well.
@DazzaBellz cotto was, but after taking those punches wat happen? same to mosley. morales is a counter puncher though he's a bit more agressive. pure boxers like jmm? jmm wont even win against those boxers, not even with morales. the thing is, pac is always agressive. always been, but he's technical, it just happen he always being agressive, but if ever he decided to counter, i dont think anyone will fight him. sad to say, pac wont do it. cause can take that risk, being agressive agains him.
@blitsziro exactly! pacquiao can only look good against aggresive fighters not smart allround boxers. lol pacquiao wont counter because he doesnt have the reflexes and head movement to it effectively not because he doesnt want its because he doesnt have the ability to fight that way. You can win a fight in more ways than aggression floyd made a career out of it. Continued above......
@DazzaBellz judges score fight looking at effective aggression (as you stated), effective defence, ring generalship and effective punches landed. The last 3 are the factors in which floyd would dominate pacquiao if they were to ever meet and also the the last 3 factors was the reason why most people think that jmm beat pacquiao in all 3 of their fights. You cant just judge fights on aggression alone.
@DazzaBellz well i could agree on that, but u dont know. things still falls on preparation. but preparation wont be enough in the ring. as for floyd, he better be extra careful than ever, its like he will be facing a boxer like castillo, though a lot stronger and faster. as for marquez those last 3 wasnt effective. why? cause pac just keep coming for more, and at the end, jmm has more damaged than pac, considering pac landed few punches, most of them are right jabs.
@blitsziro because jmm made pacquiao fight his fight and he controlled the ring, landed cleaner and more hurtfull punches, and better defence. Like I said you cant cant just win a fight by being aggressive alone, you need to show more than that.
@DazzaBellz hurtfull? didnt i say who's face got more damaged, if pac was hurt how come he keeps coming for more, pac wasnt hurt at all. pac has the ability to be more than agressive and strong. it just that he doesnt have that knowledge. like i said, things would be different if ever pac wont be agressive. he can win by just waiting for the boxer to attack, just by that. besides, u never know. the fight was very very close. if pac was just on his usual style i dont think marquez would win
@blitsziro pacquiao did fight his usuall style, hes only got 1 style and thats to get forward and throw combinations and thats what he did but jmm's style made it difficult for pacquiao to succeed. His face was damaged but some peoples faces swell up more than others. They were all close fights I agree so lets just agree to disagree.
@DazzaBellz no pac didnt, except for being agressive, besides i aslo think that the consecutive foot stomping was on purpose. as for pac, his approach was very different, pac wasnt on his usual style, his usual style was go keep on throwing punches, but pac continuously keep on throwing jabs then once he landed he step back, then attk then step back, u wont see it much becuz marquez keeps on swaying back, try to watch it again you will see
@blitsziro lol yeah and why did pacquiao keep stepping back? it was because everytime he landed a jab marquez was countering him with combinations. Like I said earlier marquez didnt let pacquiao fight the fight he wanted to and pacquiao didnt have the versatility to adapt and change. You just proved my point right. As for the feet, come on! its leftie v righty it happens all the time, both fighters are battling to get their lead foot on the outside and marquez won that battle.
@DazzaBellz no thats not it, do u even watch his other fights? pac moves forward even if his taking power punches, but he didnt do that. thats what im talking about, as for pac he was trying to counter while his agressive. about the foot i know that, but come on, it never happen on the previous fight. besides, like i said consecutive stepping? come on. watch it again, every round marquez was attempting.
@blitsziro taking counter punches which you cant see coming can hurt alot more than power punches from head on. Its all about timing. An example of this is by comparing the puches landed in the marquez fight and margarito fight. Another reason is that hes stopped juicing which means he is no longer able to endure the puches anymore. Hes had had 36 rounds with this guy and fought the same way everytime! I think that tells you he fights the same way everytime with every fighter.
@DazzaBellz pac barely got hurt, like i said judging from his face, comparing from his other fights, also from his fight with cotto, cotto did landed good counters on pac, but he didnt back away, pac was actually sent a bit backward. stopped juicing?! r u talking about peds? come on u also believe that shit? if he is, its been a long time that he had been caught. sameway everytime? stfu, compare pacs 2 fights to marquez, pac was more a bit reluctant to completely go wild on 3rd fight.
@blitsziro he hasnt been caught because he hasnt taken random blood testing. I admit there is no proof but at the same time you have no proof that marquez deliberately stomped on his foot yet you still mention it. Im just saying pacquiaos full of excuses like scared to give blood excuse, hit by car door excuse, marriage problems excuse, wrong gloves excuse, leg cramps excuse, marquez drinking yellow liquid excuse, foot stomping excuse. He should just be a man and admit he lost.
@DazzaBellz he hasnt taken? yeah right other boxers where caught who didnt undergo to any OSBT, didnt i say watch the other 2 fights, then compare the 3rd fight, also in every round, marquez was aiming for the foot, and consecutive stomping? full of excuses? i tell u whats an excuse, accusing then denying, worrying about ppv, but claiming gets big money who ever he fights, take the test, fight vargas. choosing marquez rather mosley. those are excuses. reason for leg cramps? foot stomping.
@blitsziro PEDS have evolved over the years and there are some that can only be traced through OSBT. The other 2 fights marquez commited himself more which is why it appeared diiferent. Not excuses their requests and facts. Like the fact "that he gets big money" he does because he isnt owned by anyone, he gets the lion share of the ppv, sponsorship and gate. Pacquiao being owned by arum means most of the back end money goes to arum and also pacquiao's carrer choices are made by arum.
@DazzaBellz LOL!! do u even know the effects of peds? go search it dumb ass. then compare the effects to pac. floyd says, he gets big money who ever he fights, but worries about ppv, sponsorship and gate? really? who has more commercials? who gets more credits from great boxing legends and athletes, who has been invited to white house? as for marquez didnt u say before about lefty and right, that the stepping usualy happen? that didnt happen in previous 2 fights
@blitsziro yes the effects are usually bigger fatter head, raised eyebrow bone, liver damage, stunted growth, increased sexual appetite and criminal behavior, all of which is related to pacquiao. His head has clearly grown in the last 4 years, hes been to hospital for liver pains a few times, hes been caught cheating with various women over the years and has admitted to having cocain problems a few years back. All signs lead to PED use. The foot stepping happens more often than not.
@DazzaBellz part1: LOL!! seriusly where did u just get that info?! cocaine?! criminal behavior?!?! seriusly? wow ur one fucked up bitch. liver pains?! may i see some evidences, well for the women thing, its been a long time issue. i know his a womanizer. seriusly according to what i have read about roids, those are definitely not related, who has more good behavior pac or floyd? besides, give me a steroid that cant be traced in urine, cause i know every boxer has a regular urine check.
@DazzaBellz part2: if those are true, i cant immagine how he's still here and fighting, i really dont know where u get those info, as far as i know, pac never battered a woman. cocaine my ass, maybe ur referring to oscar, let me give a sample of steroid effects, its addicting, can cause depression, can make u more hot headed, and etc. now as for being more hot headed, well i think u know who.
@blitsziro alot of this was brought to light after he released a film about his life there are also news articles which you can find if you search. There is also a Manny pacquiao film out which Manny even approved of and appeared in with all these instances. As for whos has good or bad behavior we cant answer that because we dont know them personally but it seems that pacquiao is made out to be a better man than he really is. Movie link is here watch?v=UKUp7vq2avU
@DazzaBellz LOL!! do u even know when exactly it was, he wasnt even that famous yet. that was like back then when he was still featherweight, as for now, how can u possibly say that he' still doing it, and that his on peds, ur just making shitty speculations. as for the film i know that myself, as for behavior? u can judged them for interviews, go read more facts about peds. before making innacurate speculations
@blitsziro yes the film was made before he was big thats why he was so care free about it being released, he never knew he was ever going to get to level he is at now. Can you imagine if they tried to release that film now, he would never agree to release it. Also have you read the book "Pacman" a really good read on his life experiences good and bad which back up alot of my points.
@blitsziro the human growth hormone cannot be detected by urine tests. Im sorry if I have upset you but I thought you knew about all the problems he had. Well at least you know now.
@DazzaBellz LOL! upset me? i dont really i care about it, life problem my ass, its not my business anyway, but i know he's not on peds, saying he would never agree? LOL another shitty speculation. anyway idc about those, cannot be detected by urine test? wtf!! seriusly i wanna see where u get that info. as far as i know, it can be detected. like i said, there are also behavioral side effects for taking peds, not just on the body but mentally.
@blitsziro yes I know and it shows in his behavior. Taking cocain, getting another woman pregnant and keeping it a secret from his wife. The depression happens as part of a withdrawal symptom. I have already told you where I got from, his book, movie and also details on the effects are on the USADA website. As for HGH its very hard to detect. Anyway lets just both agree that im right and move on.
@DazzaBellz im talking about today, seriusly if it is, how come floyd denied this then it wasnt proven in the court, maybe for the cocaine it is right, but seriusly on the peds? u think its accurate for today? u right? no way, like i said, show the kind of steroids where it cant be detected in the urine, but u havent, ur just full of shit. innacurate speculations, and inaccurate evidences. LOL i wonder if floyd can use that as an evidence in the court. too bad he wont, cause he already denied it
@blitsziro What do you mean proven in court? their case hasnt concluded yet. well im just saying he has history with drugs and that could be a side effect of taking PED'S. HGH is very hard to detect, I cant post links but just do a search in google there is loads of information about it. The court case shows pacquiao doesnt want to take any form of testing to prove his innocence.
@DazzaBellz well, if the fucking peds accusation of floyd id really true, how come floyd never appeared there, and out of the blue he denied it. side effect of taking peds my ass, seriusly considering to pac's personality compared to floyd and ur saying its pac? still floyd denied it. who the fuck is he? is he on drugs? was he drank that time then suddenly forgot it? or is it becuz the fact that their just scared.
@blitsziro well floyds the only one willing to take the test and fight fairly. Im not saying pacquiao wasnt at the time, I think he was influenced by his handlers. You need to realize pacs not the only boxer in history being accused of juicing yet they dont take it to court. You cant judge anyones personalty if you dont know them personaly. Floyd does alot of things in front of the camera for show. But he also does alot of good things Continued above.....
@blitsziro He does alot of charity and gives alot to the homeless and also paid for the funerals of hernandez and frazier. But unfortunetely not alot of people write about the good things just the bad where as with pacquiao its the other way round like the cocaine, the drugs, cheating on his wife, getting another woman pregnant, attending cock fighting. You get the picture.
@DazzaBellz part 1: really? pac does that too, lots and lots of it, compare to floyd its not even the half of it. cock fightin? how about floyd nonstop gambling beating a woman, assaulting a man cause his pissed. ur talking about stuffs long long ago, compare to now, floyd from the beginning does all those shit until now, which is why he has so much felony cases. as for personality, u dont pac's personality too. like i said, im judging both of them through their actions and mouth.
@DazzaBellz part2: take the test and fight fairly? when pac said he wants to have a test exactly after the fight, wats the difference about it? its not like the steroid in his body will be gone after the fight, if he really is. influenced by his handlers my ass. i dont care about them. stop blabbering about cocaine shit. its been a long long long time. its like back in 2003. as for floyd, read between the fucking lines, synthesize his actions and words, then tell me how hypocrite he is.
@blitsziro What im saying is they both do things and they both have there dark sides. Im talking about facts and you should judge them through facts. How do you know he beat his wife where you there. I bet you dont even know who Josie Harris is. They have said they cant take the test after the fight in the locker rooms for hygene reasons, it doesnt matter now as I believe he wants to.
@blitsziro You should be worried about his handlers, hes been taken advantage of. The point is I like pacquiao but if he wasnt with bob arum the fight would have been made along time ago so why is he still with that lyer.
@DazzaBellz its just a BS speculation with no accurate proof, like i said, the fights not happening is becuz of floyd. tell u what, how would u synthesize this, accusing someone then denying, blabbering about the test, acting savvy but just a cheap tawdry bastard, claiming he gets big money who ever he fights but worries about ppv, then fight vargas, saying ur next then denies he didnt say it. how would u synthesize those shit?
@blitsziro not speculation, facts. you even admitted they were facts yourself. whats vargas got to do with floyd and manny? when did he deny not saying your next? he just said he was not approached by bob arum to make any negotiations which is believable because when have you heard bobs side of the story? never because he doesnt want to talk about what hes trying to plan. Trust me bobs got manny lined up with marquez, bradley and cotto next.
@DazzaBellz facts? for it to be fact u need proof, accurate proof. like floyds accusation and sudden denial. oh about the vargas thing i was refering to khan, when i said about floyd saing pac is next, is the time when floyd said it during press conference on ortiz fight, where after it, he denies it. i dont give a damn about promoters, now synthesize floyd hypocrisy, cause for me, i conclude their just excuses and his scared
@blitsziro I dont think khan was ever ready for mayweather. you said you dont give a damn about promoters but at the end of the day pacquiao's the only one that has one and do you honestly think arum wants the fight to happen? When has floyd denied it? hes still calling out pacquiao now. The truth is they both want to fight each other, how can you not see that? but there is a man who holds all the cards but the cards are never gonna be dealt.
@DazzaBellz why do u keep blabbering that he didnt say it? want a proof, watch this watch?v=45fSsXPSw0A ever ready? floyd said he wants a young strong and fast opponent which is why he choose ortiz rather khan, get it? then h blabber that khan wont make much ppv. considering khan is from golden boy which he is so proud of. not see it? how can u not see floyds actions? like i said who the fuck is he to accuse then deny? floyd is the only one not making this happen.
@blitsziro also, you want to talk about contradictions why dont you mention the contradictions of the pacquiao camp. watch this video watch?v=pQlayWS7TNE
It explains everything. No one in that camp can get there story right, they say one thing (and then as you say deny it) and say something completely different. It is what it is.
@DazzaBellz oh right, what a surreal speculation, once again, go research about its side effects, then go compare it to pac, inside the ring and after, like i said they offered a osbt with a cut off then another test exactly after the fight. but still no, give me a good reason why, and a reason why floyd denied an accusation, also side effects.
@blitsziro we're going backwards here. I already told you the side effects. Big head, increased sexuall tendanceis, bigger eyebrow bridge, criminal activity, shrinkage of the testies. All of which can be linked to pacman! who knows what they offered. It seems they say 1 thing one week and another thing another week. You say speculation but thats the same as what your doing, Wife beating, denying fights etc. Stop being a hypocrite.
@DazzaBellz part 1:sexual tendencies my ass, criminal activity bs, bigger eyebrow brige?, show me those evidences.. who has more crimes anyway? how about battering a woman assaulting a fan cause his piss off, is a sign of steroid, want a proof, many wrestlers assaulted their wifes cause their overdoes of steroids. stop being a hypocrite? this is what an hypocrite, accusing then denying. claiming next then denying.
@blitsziro sexual tendencies: cheats on his wife all the time, has baby with another woman and admits it. Criminal activity: taking cocaine and admits it. All facts. The assault you claim is speculation which you accused me of which makes you a hypocrite. accusing then denying. claiming next then denying: in the video below pacquiao states he would fight floyd and anyone, then he says its up to my promoter bob arum. Which one is it?
@DazzaBellz part2: as far as i know, one of the more accurate effects of steroids such as hgh are aggression and hypomania, and it doesnt increase sexual tendencies rather decreases it. get ur facts right, rather show me where u get that info that it increases sexual tendencies. also it has a physical side effect such as baldness. want my proof go to wikipedia search anabolic steroid, read the adverse effect section, then show me where u get the shit like increase sexual tendencies.
@DazzaBellz oh really? didnt floyd said this that too that its up to his promoter too, get ur facts right, now tell me if this is not hypocrite, accusing then denying, as for cock fighting, search this "Floyd Mayweather Jr is spending his vacation with other chickens"
as for taking cocaine and cheating shit, its been a long long long time, that was like back on yr 2003 or less. want proof? watch?v=i2FqAYsy2UU now tell me is this not hypocrite?
@blitsziro for a start you brought this up not me. You were the one who said that floyd wanted the fight and then denied it. all I did was show you some evidence that pacquiao did the same thing which he did right? the fact you stated that floyd did one thing without acknowledging pacquiao doing the same thing makes it hypocritical of you to bring it up. am I right or wrong?
@DazzaBellz part1: really? heres what a hypocrite, pac did say that it depends on his promoter, then after that i show u that mayweather ranting about it, then after that he claims something about his promoter too, now tell me whos not hypocrite, now going back to the accusation and denying, is that not hypocrisy? as for ur right or wrong? pac is not a hypocrite, mayweather is. so if ur claiming to that pac is, then ur wrong.
@blitsziro part2: as for pac his fine with any opponent, but it would depend on his promoter who will fight, but who ever it is, it doesnt matter to him. got the difference? as for floyd, its not the same as for pac, maybe its the same as what pac also meant. its just that, he's full of shit excuses. now tell me am i right or wrong?
@blitsziro im saying your a hypocrite for saying floyd wanted the fight and denying it. pacquiao done the same thing. if you think floyds a hypocrite for those reasons you must think pacquiao is to. Your wrong because he has openly stated he wants to fight may 5th and pacquiao has stated he wants to fight floyd, so they they both want the fight right? so if they both want the fight whose to blame for stopping it? do you not think bob arum has a big say in whether it happens or not?
@DazzaBellz LOL! as for floyd its clear he denied it, even criticizing pac for relying on his promoter i showed u where floyd does it too. if ur refering to the may 5th fight, then to what he said before is not related to it, becuz what im saying is when he said manny ur next then denies it. thats what im saying, he denied manny is next. also the steroid accusation that he denied. like i said, pac is ok to fighting to anyone, but it would depend on his promoter, but he's ok to anyone, get it?
@blitsziro so your saying its ok if pacquiao says its up to my promoter but when floyd says its up to al haymon its not ok? so answer me this do you not think bob "bullshit" arum has no intention of making the fight? baob makes about 30 to 40 mil from pacquiao every fight. do you think he would risk loosing that to mayweather?
@DazzaBellz yeah, why? he criticized pac for relying to much on arum, but floyd said the same thing, so what makes him say shit about pac relying too much and he will claim it for him self too? now answer that, also the accusation and denying, what the fuck is up with him? is he taking cocaine or is he on drugs that time that he have forgotten it? i dont give a fuck to arum, u keep on pointing things to arum, but u cant read between the fucking lines of floyds actions and mouth.
@blitsziro its go nothing to do with him relying on arum its the fact that hes being exploited by him. although he say it haymon doesnt dictate what floyd does and certainly doesnt take as much money as what arum does so you cant compare the 2. Why do you keep bringing up that floyds on drugs? is because your embarrassed about manny past? if so you shouldnt be because everyone does bad things in life it doesnt make them worse the same as floyd. but I dont see the point in denying it.
@DazzaBellz cant compare the 2? why not, he criticize pac for that, but he claims it for him self too, exploit by him? about what that pac is on roids? didnt he denied it? the point is its only an excuse, embaras of manny's past? hell no, its none of my business, like i said wtf is up wd floyd accusing manny then denying, so i speculated maybe he is on drugs that time, or maybe drunk that he have forgotten it. floyd is a one big hypocrite. for the record i dont give a damn about the promoters
@blitsziro cant compare them because bob an actual promoter with more power. al hamon is just an advisor, floyd makes his own decisions at the end of the day. he exploits him out of money and makes sure he fights fighter that are in house I cant believe you cant see that. exactly his past is none of your business or mine. Why are we talking about it? because you brought it up by talking about floyds past.
This Is Exactly What Is Going To happen If Mayweather jr Fights Pacquiao...He Is Going To Keep Running, covering up and Countering but Pacquiao's continuous brutal assult will eventually take a toll on his body and he will be forced to fight back..and thats exactly what Pacquiao is going to want
litothe1 2 days ago
can you see the similirarity with mayweather sr's fighting stance with sr??
pagasangbayan1 6 days ago
they should have stopped the fight mayweather was only covering up and sugar was beating mayweather to a pulp
haitianmaniac74 1 week ago
@tokinblckgie , you're right. Mayweather Jr. is light years ahead of his pop and uncle.
nubonyx 1 week ago
Mayweather Sr. had a bad right hand and a permanently damage leg. This could have been an amazing fight if Floyd Sr. was in peak condition. I grew up watching Leonard; He sure had some amazing stamina & power!
dlogan1616 2 weeks ago
dude is the best boxer ever, nick is gay
OshawaStateOfMind 2 weeks ago
damn! mayweather got a serious chin. If junior inherited that!...he can't be beat.
1sngwrtr 3 weeks ago
That is what you call a one sided beat down...geez fight wouldve been stopped in these times ago...9-10 unanswerd punches.... intresting seeing Floyds shoulder roll defence tho that he passed down to his son....Floyd jr perfected it tho.
Khaos969 3 weeks ago
This is what pac has to do, if he can't get through that defense he will lose.
Pygmonicus 3 weeks ago
@Pygmonicus; How do you think this Leonard would do against the Floyd that fought Oscar? This is definately what Pac would need to do to Floyd Jr. but I don't think (for obvious reasons) Floyd Sr. was as hard a puncher as Floyd Jr. is. I noticed Floyd Sr. did counter Leonard a lot during this fight but with Floyd's hand being broken, Leonard just walked right through those punched with complete disregard.
dlogan1616 2 weeks ago
lame defensive fighting style passed on to jr
butterfaceee 3 weeks ago
sugar in his prime was a complete package.. Speed, Power(in both hands), great foot work, a great chin and phenomenal skill... but then again most top ten fighters where in that class too. Marvelous Marvin Hagler, tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran....
noirnoticvibe 4 weeks ago
Mayweather is 1 ugly Ni66er
ClearwaterMMA 1 month ago
I think this will be the end up of the upcoming bout between Mayweather Jr. & Pacquiao, just don't know who'll be the loser!
selwyn1475 1 month ago
traded a check hook for a proper hook. not a good trade : P
ZigZagRunner 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Man his son has that same defensive style, only he can dodge much better. Like fathe rlike son.
triofdoom 1 month ago
3:43 sugar in beast mode
whatsyours1 1 month ago
see what happened to mayweather sr.vs.sugar rey leonard...because same as his son floyd gayweather jr.good only in talking,not in boxing!and if mayweather jr.can request a big size boxing ring so he can run around,and run around,and run around!!!llol!!!
lexdelatorre 1 month ago
@lexdelatorre
Face it. They're not the same fighters. Similar? Yeah. They're from the same school of boxing, but Jr. is a far better fighter. More physically gifted and even more technical defensively. In a large or small boxing ring, the guy's a monster.
tokinblckgie 1 month ago
I will like to box floyd mayweather because he is the best boxer there is!
stoney988 1 month ago
(.).l.(.)
titty job
punktheman 1 month ago
floyd jr is much faster than his father ever was, he moves his head much more and his punches are more accurate. Anyway sugar ray was a fucking beast so of course he trashed floyd sr.
Aceinface1 1 month ago
I love this vid. Sugar Ray Leonard definitely one of the GREATEST of all time and one of my most favorite fighters as well. Mayweather was better off on his skates like Jr.Running is there game.
aikidoway71 2 months ago
Haha. Cosell say's "Mayweather is stunned". Must have been a wicked punch, because Mayweather is still stunned. Actually, two generations are stunned. Leonard hit him so hard, he arrested the development of two generations.
cypresscoach 2 months ago
idk witch is witch becuase there both BLACK
Emoboy12343 2 months ago
This is what would happen if manny pacquiao would fight floyd Mayweather
arraza1000 2 months ago
@arraza1000 WTF?? you didnt even made an effort to make sense
KAKINO0202 2 months ago
@KAKINO0202
Im trying to say that this type of defence is breakable via speed and power which manny pacquiao has
arraza1000 2 months ago
@arraza1000 dude im not getting into an argument with you because you probably dont know much about boxing, you're trying to compare sugar ray and pacquiao that's disgusting... but not actually worse than comparing floyd mayweather jr with mayweather sr.
you sound filipino
KAKINO0202 2 months ago
@arraza1000 LOL that's what most people wish would happen but it won't.
WOTGSmash 2 months ago
why is there no record of floyd sr fights on wikipedia ?
Yuspliff 2 months ago
@Yuspliff There were records quite a few weeks back but no it looks like some crackhead edited his page and deleted his fight record .
yousef4781 2 months ago
@brightonblock Lmfao, what? He and his son are Southern Paw fighters. If you look at all South Paws they all stand like that, from back then till now. Look at James Toney, or even Thomas Hearns, he wasnt really a South Paw but he'd occasionally switch to thay defensive posture.
iverson25allen 2 months ago
@iverson25allen what have you been taking? south paw fighters? Floyd sr, Floyd jr, Toney and Hearns all had an orthadox stance lol Idiot!
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz Thats what I meant to say. Thanks for calling me an idiot.
iverson25allen 2 months ago
WOW look at Leonard he was such an impressive boxer. Sr though does a very poor Mayweather guard and thats all he got here in this fight. He may of invented, developed and taught that but boy did Jr take it to the next level with timing, footwork and all round fight smarts.
brightonblock 2 months ago
same shit gonna happen to pacquiao vs mayweather jr
wDeathw 2 months ago
@wDeathw NO ITS NOT and im not even going to begin to tell you why!
Once again some dickhead cluttering up the comments with that shit.
brightonblock 2 months ago
@wDeathw u been listening to rugged man too much..LOL
BronerBeast 2 months ago
I didnt know that Sugar Ray Fough Mayweather SR
mitsubishidiamante 2 months ago
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mitsubishidiamante 2 months ago
Sugar Ray Leonard against Floyd Mayweather Junior would've been a great fight!
boxingbox 2 months ago
Floyd's*
crewfoos 2 months ago
Yap yap yap who gives a fuck golden boy and top rank can never make big fights with one another it's been that way for years. Also this ducking nonsense has no effect on the fighters ability in the ring so shut up kill yourself...... Now to the main topic floods dad is the ugliest Negro to ever be in a ring lololol
crewfoos 2 months ago
like father like son..chicken gay
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jiezer1 2 months ago
Who's the idiot that say he think Manny is more versatile than Floyd? Whoever you are, I'd like to smoke whatever it is that you're smoking.
MrWade365 2 months ago
Mayweather Jr fights like Mayweather Sr, Mayweather Jr defend like Mayweather Sr, Mayweather Jr Talkshit like Mayweather Sr
jimver16 2 months ago
@jimver16 well.. you got one right..
dkxlion 2 months ago
I love to see sugar ray as the aggressor, usually he's used to being the slicker smoother fighter in the ring but in some instances he chooses to punch instead of box, like the first fight with tommy hearns, or the first fight with duran but the latter didnt turn out so good for ray. It shows how versatile ray really was, he could box,move,stick and jab, or he could bang up close and personal. Respect to SRL
Ricky42791 2 months ago
Sugar Ray is one of the all time greatest fighters. However you have to realize Mayweather took this fight on 2 weeks notice and had broken his right hand less during a fight he took 2-3 weeks prior demonstrating why he was sparingly using the right hand. He also was knocked down from punches that hit him on his right gloves- the hand which had been fractured. He didn't even take any shots to subdue the pain in his hands and fought it out. Without the broken hand I think Leonard woulda won tho
musood6630 2 months ago
3:44 hhahah...
rfpchar 2 months ago
Mayweather Sr was one tough cookie !!!!! Look at all those shots he took fron SRL and still stood up.
sodear2meee 2 months ago
trades a left hook for a check hook hmm
ZigZagRunner 3 months ago
Manny won't even be able to get close Jr. was way more technically sound then Sr...u gotta be kidding...Pactards
Rapid8Fire 3 months ago
Ooooooh my God!!! look at those thunder blows to the body and head.
nastyboyize 3 months ago
this what gonna happen if MAYWEATHER VS PACQUIAO fight in may 5 2012. MARK MY WORD!!!
pacmanBARRAGE 3 months ago
LOL u blind? go watch the trilogy manny vs marquez, 1st n 2nd marquez always got knock out :D and decision is draw how many x did he knock out 3-4x and its draw? wow that is fair right? LOL! on the 3rd it was fight it was closed fight infavor of manny winning by 4 points ok retardo? dont be a sore loser marquez is goo fighter but now good enough! :D hahaha... watch the slow motion.
TheDevilMoonWind 3 months ago
MARQUEZ WHOOPED PACQUIAO'S ASS! & FLOYD WOULD 2! PACMAN HAS BEEN EXPOSED! SO ALL U IDIOTS WHO PROBABLLY DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE 3RD JMM VS PAC FIGHT BUT WANT 2 ACT LIKE BOXING EXPERTS SHUT THE FUCK UP!
ELxBATMAN45 3 months ago
@ELxBATMAN45 exactly Marquez countered manny all night. Mayweather will easily eat Pac alive
cpaignboxing 3 months ago
@ELxBATMAN45 lol marquez whoops manny ass? who got down in the canvas 4 times? who's face is more beat up? who's the one keeping on backing away and doesnt engage in the fight rather w8 for an opportunity to counter. now who's ass got whooped? btw, getting ur ass whoop is different from being countered.
blitsziro 3 months ago
Senior wasn't too bad but his son is light years ahead
bertelliish 3 months ago
Sugar Ray Leonard, my favorite boxer!
eduardodeleon1 3 months ago
Looks like the result of Pacman and MJr fight
ian2008931 3 months ago
I bet Floyd jr has been watching this, given his father same style of boxing, and speed of Sugar Ray like that of Pacquiao with a killer knockout punch. PBF will be shakin' in his boots to even think of sparring with him.
caloy2x 3 months ago
Mayweather Sr style is almost identical to that of his son Floyd Jr. I can see the same fight result like this when he fight (if ever) Pacquiao.
caloy2x 3 months ago
The way Leonard is fighting.. now that's a fighting match not like what we see today fuckin dissapointment
Joesoloist89 3 months ago
i think this is one of the reasons why floyd doesnt want to fight pacquiao.. look at those barage of punches sugar was throwing. pacquiao throws lots of punches like that, and floyd defends like his father, i think its mayweather sr. who advised his son not to fight pacquiao
blitsziro 3 months ago 12
@blitsziro Floyd is very much behind his father when it comes to boxing bro.
bomper575 3 months ago
@bomper575 i know, but the style isnt, besides what makes floyd different to his father is the way he fights, if u watch closely in this fight, sugar was setting sr. up. manny can do that if evr they fght, that would be trouble some for floyd, floyd needs to be extra careful on throwing his right straight cause it vould be a trap, like in this vid, sr. was doing a rope a dope and sugar was just atckng like hell, then suddenly sugar looks tired, then sr. goes boom but the other way around happen
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro All I'm saying is Saturday Nights fight for Pacman showed he isn't ready for Floyd. He had problems with a counter puncher that Floyd annihilated. Manny is going to be in trouble. IF THEY ever fight now. Manny just hurt his rep.
bomper575 3 months ago
@bomper575 nah i dont think so, i dont think that would be it, floyd is not the guy who counters consecutive punches and throw 3-4 combinations, usualy he just run around then get a timing for straight.. as for pacquiao's problem is how's he gonna set floyd up, the thing is, floyd will w8, pacquiao would be chargin, if pacquiao w8, floyd wont attack, like what marquez did, they know its over if they attk pacman head on, manny can win on while defensive and passive, floyd just defensive.
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro Well Floyd is the better boxer. So, if they bring it to a pure boxing match, Mannys going to lose. Freddy knows that. They have to overwhelm Floyd early on with a lot of aggression I think. Floyd starts to shutter a little bit when he gets hit with a good punch. He isn't the same for that entire round. The thing about Floyd though is he can fight just as good on the ropes as he can around the ring. I don't see Manny having the required material to outbox Floyd.
bomper575 3 months ago
@bomper575 mope i dont think so, i think he will just be swaying back, full defense.. refer from the floyds last match against ortiz. in round 4. pacquiao is a lot fast than ortiz, and stronger of course.
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro I don't think Pacman is stronger than Ortiz. A better boxer, yes. Stronger? No.
bomper575 3 months ago
@bomper575 no pacquiao is definitely stronger, im sure of it. pacquiao has better right hand. he can knock bigger opponents by his right hand. wether u agree or not, the thing is floyd will have problem if he get hits with pacquiao's right especially his left, ortiz doesnt have that, including pacquiao's agility inside the ring. also defensively.
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro UmmmmDid you happen to see Pac Vs Marquez sir? No one in the world now thinks Pac has a chance with Floyd..including Pac! They emailed Floyd this morning, they no longer want the fight as of now, they want a Marquez 4!!LOL
STONRUNNIT 3 months ago
@STONRUNNIT thats differenr dumb dumb, like i said, the thing is manny pacquiao is the one agressive, we all know marquez is a good counter puncher, which pacquiao has difficulties, but the thing is, marquez cant go agressive on him, why? cause its dangerous for marquez, u can say that becuz floyd wont be the one attacking, put it this way, who would win if marquez is the attacking head on, same to mayweather
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro Man Floyd can do what ever he wants when ever he wants..and be effective.Counter punching is just one on Floyd's many tools. Watch his past 2 fights Shane,and Ortiz...backed those guys up with aggressiveness. He can fight aggressive, counter, fight going backwards...again, Floyd toys with Pac
STONRUNNIT 3 months ago
@STONRUNNIT yeah right, go watch ortiz match with floyd, on round 4. ortiz landed good shots and did hurt floyd, but suddenly the head but and of course the cheap shot.. really floyd toys pac? ask shane, delahoya, and hatton.
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro Why would i go ask them? Shouldn't i ask a guy who's style is closest to Floyd..lke say ahhh....MARQUEZ!!! .. the 38 year old lightweight? The guy who exposed and banged Pac?The guy who couldn't win a single round with Floyd?..Yeah, i think i'll go ask that guy, oh wait, they've already asked him that 2 years ago. Marquez said Floyd is better than Pac...Come to grips with in man..you can still be a Pac fan, i actually like the little fella..just aint fuckin with Floyd thats all LOL
STONRUNNIT 3 months ago
@STONRUNNIT wow thnx for the incentive, let me point out one thing, banged pac? nope i dont think so, countered yes.. anything can happen in boxing, just becuz floyd beat up marquez means pacquiao doesnt stand a chanc. the only reason marquez countered pac efficiently cause he's the one w8ting, all he did is go backwards and w8 for him.. if pac wont attk then he wont. put it this way marquez will be the agressor, thats a whole new story now.
blitsziro 3 months ago
@STONRUNNIT marquez is a bit different to floyd PBF doesn't trade punches he hit and run then dominate his opponent after they get frustrated and lose stamina marquez step back or in like we seen in pacquiao and he then trade punches
kenndiata 3 months ago
@kenndiata HIit and run? Man i've seen Floyd hit and run, back down opponents (bigger opponents, Shane ,Ortiz,) trade punches, brawl, box..Floyd does it all!!
STONRUNNIT 3 months ago
@STONRUNNIT im talkin about when floyd fought marquez
kenndiata 3 months ago
@STONRUNNIT part2: btw, also keep in mind their still planning on it.. IT wasnt final yet.. and for go ask floyd y did he accuse pacquiao then deny it suddenly, says his next then denies it. who's dodging now?
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro god people still believe floyd is the reason the fight didnt happen? Are you blind?
cpaignboxing 3 months ago
@cpaignboxing let me guess ur gonna say its arum? well idk he could be, but still i think floyd is scared
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro man why on earth would arum be pushing so hard for a Marquez 4? Top Rank has refused to negotiate with mayweather. There is no one else to blame. Floyd set a date and said he wants to make the biggest fight possible
cpaignboxing 3 months ago
@cpaignboxing u see we still dont know, maybe after a few months will know or after newyears eve. will know, besides they already made the negotiations before, but theres still lots of faux conception and blah blah speculations, i dont want to say anything about those promoters, i preffer to judged from mayweathers actions and words, like take the test, ur next? wont cause much ppv? accusing then denying. better read the lines well, its up to you how u synthesize those words
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro i agree pac would either win by points or late KO in the 10 to 12th round!
Kilomanjaro11 3 months ago
@blitsziro Na Floyd Jr. doesn't jus sit there in take hard ass body shots like that..he would just roll or check any punch thrown his way..Jr. is way better than Sr.
Rapid8Fire 3 months ago
@Rapid8Fire i know, but the style is the same, though its executed differently
blitsziro 3 months ago
LMAO! at 3:40 ive seen that on a highlight. lol! i didn't know it was Floyd father that was done like that..embarrassing
Rapid8Fire 3 months ago
@blitsziro Floyd defends better than his father. He also counters about 1,000x better. Pacquiao slows down when he faces good counter punchers as any smart boxer would. I think Floyd would beat pac if they faced eachother. Marquez is a similar fighter to Floyd, just not as powerful and not that great of defense. But he has amazing counter ability similar to Floyd.
oneworldkingdom 3 months ago
@oneworldkingdom yeah maybe, but i dont think he can K0 pac, but pac can. and also, if ever they fight i dont think floyd would be chargin or the one being agressive, all day he'll be swaying back and w8 pacquiao.. like what other boxers do when they faced him, but things would be different if they would take the risk
blitsziro 3 months ago
@blitsziro There fighting May 5 dude get off pac nuts.lol
ken162008 2 months ago
@ken162008 yeah right, cant w8 for floyd to lose
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro, You're wrong. Floyd does have some similarities of the way his father used to fight, but Floyd Jr's defense is more advanced. Manny Pacquiao is no Sugar Ray Leonard, and Floyd Jr is a better versatile Boxer than his father ever was.
MrWade365 2 months ago
@MrWade365 i believe pac is more versatile than floyd, the thing is, pac is more powerful puncher than floyd, if ever they fought pac will be the agressor always will. not floyd, no boxer would ever take the risk to be agressive on pac. not even floyd. i do know one thing too, one way to counter the shoulder roll is to attack the continuously the shoulder until it hurts, castillo did that, floyd had problem in that. ofcourse it would be bigger problem if pac is the one doing that
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro floyd defends nothing like his farther.. haha! you ever seen floyd stand still like that with his hands up?
dkxlion 2 months ago
@dkxlion really? have u ever seen floyd fought someone like pac? or has he ever fought a boxer where he stands toe to toe with like what pac usually does?
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro thats not what were talking about.. you said floyd defends like his father.. but he defends nothing like his father.. floyd wouldnt just stand still and let the opponent keep swinging like that.. you know he wouldnt.. floyd does defend but completely diffrent to snr. and the example your looking for. mosley.. (he stood toe to toe with) and has he ever fought a boxer like pacquiao.. yes plenty (style wise)
dkxlion 2 months ago
@dkxlion yeah he is, they have the same style, its just that floyd is better. floyd woudnt ofcourse, but he will clinch like what his dad does, with who mosley? really, i dont think so, he maximize his defense on mosley. mosley is more of the agressor in that fight. really he fought someone like pac? never seen any 8 division champ he fought.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro pacquiao cant fight people who step backwards he just lunges forward with his feet out of position missing wildly and getting caught on the counter which is what happened with jmm. Hes definetly not more versatile floyd, he seems 1 dimensional and doesnt seem to have the ring IQ to change and adjust his game plan when things are not going his way.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz well i agree about pac cant make changes on gameplan..but he's been knocking boxers who keeps on backing, which is why, things would be different if pac is the one countering. sad to say, no boxer would take that risk to be the agressor on him. still i think pac is more versatile, he just lack ring iq, if he has it, even if floyd is smarter, pac would definitely be in a whole new level. still, his physical ability makes up for it
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro pacquiao always fights fighters that are aggressor's and bring the fight to him like cotto, hatton, de la hoya, margarito, morales, barrera. they are the only styles which pacquiao looks good against. when he fights pure boxers like jmm he doesnt have an answer. the reason why floyds more versatile is because he rarely fights the same style he adjusts his style to give him the advantage, he can lead, counter, hang on the ropes. he throws combos when he needs to as well.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz cotto was, but after taking those punches wat happen? same to mosley. morales is a counter puncher though he's a bit more agressive. pure boxers like jmm? jmm wont even win against those boxers, not even with morales. the thing is, pac is always agressive. always been, but he's technical, it just happen he always being agressive, but if ever he decided to counter, i dont think anyone will fight him. sad to say, pac wont do it. cause can take that risk, being agressive agains him.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro exactly! pacquiao can only look good against aggresive fighters not smart allround boxers. lol pacquiao wont counter because he doesnt have the reflexes and head movement to it effectively not because he doesnt want its because he doesnt have the ability to fight that way. You can win a fight in more ways than aggression floyd made a career out of it. Continued above......
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz judges score fight looking at effective aggression (as you stated), effective defence, ring generalship and effective punches landed. The last 3 are the factors in which floyd would dominate pacquiao if they were to ever meet and also the the last 3 factors was the reason why most people think that jmm beat pacquiao in all 3 of their fights. You cant just judge fights on aggression alone.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz well i could agree on that, but u dont know. things still falls on preparation. but preparation wont be enough in the ring. as for floyd, he better be extra careful than ever, its like he will be facing a boxer like castillo, though a lot stronger and faster. as for marquez those last 3 wasnt effective. why? cause pac just keep coming for more, and at the end, jmm has more damaged than pac, considering pac landed few punches, most of them are right jabs.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro because jmm made pacquiao fight his fight and he controlled the ring, landed cleaner and more hurtfull punches, and better defence. Like I said you cant cant just win a fight by being aggressive alone, you need to show more than that.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz hurtfull? didnt i say who's face got more damaged, if pac was hurt how come he keeps coming for more, pac wasnt hurt at all. pac has the ability to be more than agressive and strong. it just that he doesnt have that knowledge. like i said, things would be different if ever pac wont be agressive. he can win by just waiting for the boxer to attack, just by that. besides, u never know. the fight was very very close. if pac was just on his usual style i dont think marquez would win
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro pacquiao did fight his usuall style, hes only got 1 style and thats to get forward and throw combinations and thats what he did but jmm's style made it difficult for pacquiao to succeed. His face was damaged but some peoples faces swell up more than others. They were all close fights I agree so lets just agree to disagree.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz no pac didnt, except for being agressive, besides i aslo think that the consecutive foot stomping was on purpose. as for pac, his approach was very different, pac wasnt on his usual style, his usual style was go keep on throwing punches, but pac continuously keep on throwing jabs then once he landed he step back, then attk then step back, u wont see it much becuz marquez keeps on swaying back, try to watch it again you will see
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro lol yeah and why did pacquiao keep stepping back? it was because everytime he landed a jab marquez was countering him with combinations. Like I said earlier marquez didnt let pacquiao fight the fight he wanted to and pacquiao didnt have the versatility to adapt and change. You just proved my point right. As for the feet, come on! its leftie v righty it happens all the time, both fighters are battling to get their lead foot on the outside and marquez won that battle.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz no thats not it, do u even watch his other fights? pac moves forward even if his taking power punches, but he didnt do that. thats what im talking about, as for pac he was trying to counter while his agressive. about the foot i know that, but come on, it never happen on the previous fight. besides, like i said consecutive stepping? come on. watch it again, every round marquez was attempting.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro taking counter punches which you cant see coming can hurt alot more than power punches from head on. Its all about timing. An example of this is by comparing the puches landed in the marquez fight and margarito fight. Another reason is that hes stopped juicing which means he is no longer able to endure the puches anymore. Hes had had 36 rounds with this guy and fought the same way everytime! I think that tells you he fights the same way everytime with every fighter.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz pac barely got hurt, like i said judging from his face, comparing from his other fights, also from his fight with cotto, cotto did landed good counters on pac, but he didnt back away, pac was actually sent a bit backward. stopped juicing?! r u talking about peds? come on u also believe that shit? if he is, its been a long time that he had been caught. sameway everytime? stfu, compare pacs 2 fights to marquez, pac was more a bit reluctant to completely go wild on 3rd fight.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro he hasnt been caught because he hasnt taken random blood testing. I admit there is no proof but at the same time you have no proof that marquez deliberately stomped on his foot yet you still mention it. Im just saying pacquiaos full of excuses like scared to give blood excuse, hit by car door excuse, marriage problems excuse, wrong gloves excuse, leg cramps excuse, marquez drinking yellow liquid excuse, foot stomping excuse. He should just be a man and admit he lost.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz he hasnt taken? yeah right other boxers where caught who didnt undergo to any OSBT, didnt i say watch the other 2 fights, then compare the 3rd fight, also in every round, marquez was aiming for the foot, and consecutive stomping? full of excuses? i tell u whats an excuse, accusing then denying, worrying about ppv, but claiming gets big money who ever he fights, take the test, fight vargas. choosing marquez rather mosley. those are excuses. reason for leg cramps? foot stomping.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro PEDS have evolved over the years and there are some that can only be traced through OSBT. The other 2 fights marquez commited himself more which is why it appeared diiferent. Not excuses their requests and facts. Like the fact "that he gets big money" he does because he isnt owned by anyone, he gets the lion share of the ppv, sponsorship and gate. Pacquiao being owned by arum means most of the back end money goes to arum and also pacquiao's carrer choices are made by arum.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz LOL!! do u even know the effects of peds? go search it dumb ass. then compare the effects to pac. floyd says, he gets big money who ever he fights, but worries about ppv, sponsorship and gate? really? who has more commercials? who gets more credits from great boxing legends and athletes, who has been invited to white house? as for marquez didnt u say before about lefty and right, that the stepping usualy happen? that didnt happen in previous 2 fights
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro yes the effects are usually bigger fatter head, raised eyebrow bone, liver damage, stunted growth, increased sexual appetite and criminal behavior, all of which is related to pacquiao. His head has clearly grown in the last 4 years, hes been to hospital for liver pains a few times, hes been caught cheating with various women over the years and has admitted to having cocain problems a few years back. All signs lead to PED use. The foot stepping happens more often than not.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part1: LOL!! seriusly where did u just get that info?! cocaine?! criminal behavior?!?! seriusly? wow ur one fucked up bitch. liver pains?! may i see some evidences, well for the women thing, its been a long time issue. i know his a womanizer. seriusly according to what i have read about roids, those are definitely not related, who has more good behavior pac or floyd? besides, give me a steroid that cant be traced in urine, cause i know every boxer has a regular urine check.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part2: if those are true, i cant immagine how he's still here and fighting, i really dont know where u get those info, as far as i know, pac never battered a woman. cocaine my ass, maybe ur referring to oscar, let me give a sample of steroid effects, its addicting, can cause depression, can make u more hot headed, and etc. now as for being more hot headed, well i think u know who.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro alot of this was brought to light after he released a film about his life there are also news articles which you can find if you search. There is also a Manny pacquiao film out which Manny even approved of and appeared in with all these instances. As for whos has good or bad behavior we cant answer that because we dont know them personally but it seems that pacquiao is made out to be a better man than he really is. Movie link is here watch?v=UKUp7vq2avU
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz LOL!! do u even know when exactly it was, he wasnt even that famous yet. that was like back then when he was still featherweight, as for now, how can u possibly say that he' still doing it, and that his on peds, ur just making shitty speculations. as for the film i know that myself, as for behavior? u can judged them for interviews, go read more facts about peds. before making innacurate speculations
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro yes the film was made before he was big thats why he was so care free about it being released, he never knew he was ever going to get to level he is at now. Can you imagine if they tried to release that film now, he would never agree to release it. Also have you read the book "Pacman" a really good read on his life experiences good and bad which back up alot of my points.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@blitsziro the human growth hormone cannot be detected by urine tests. Im sorry if I have upset you but I thought you knew about all the problems he had. Well at least you know now.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz LOL! upset me? i dont really i care about it, life problem my ass, its not my business anyway, but i know he's not on peds, saying he would never agree? LOL another shitty speculation. anyway idc about those, cannot be detected by urine test? wtf!! seriusly i wanna see where u get that info. as far as i know, it can be detected. like i said, there are also behavioral side effects for taking peds, not just on the body but mentally.
blitsziro 2 months ago
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@blitsziro yes I know and it shows in his behavior. Taking cocain, getting another woman pregnant and keeping it a secret from his wife. The depression happens as part of a withdrawal symptom. I have already told you where I got from, his book, movie and also details on the effects are on the USADA website. As for HGH its very hard to detect. Anyway lets just both agree that im right and move on.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz im talking about today, seriusly if it is, how come floyd denied this then it wasnt proven in the court, maybe for the cocaine it is right, but seriusly on the peds? u think its accurate for today? u right? no way, like i said, show the kind of steroids where it cant be detected in the urine, but u havent, ur just full of shit. innacurate speculations, and inaccurate evidences. LOL i wonder if floyd can use that as an evidence in the court. too bad he wont, cause he already denied it
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro What do you mean proven in court? their case hasnt concluded yet. well im just saying he has history with drugs and that could be a side effect of taking PED'S. HGH is very hard to detect, I cant post links but just do a search in google there is loads of information about it. The court case shows pacquiao doesnt want to take any form of testing to prove his innocence.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz well, if the fucking peds accusation of floyd id really true, how come floyd never appeared there, and out of the blue he denied it. side effect of taking peds my ass, seriusly considering to pac's personality compared to floyd and ur saying its pac? still floyd denied it. who the fuck is he? is he on drugs? was he drank that time then suddenly forgot it? or is it becuz the fact that their just scared.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro well floyds the only one willing to take the test and fight fairly. Im not saying pacquiao wasnt at the time, I think he was influenced by his handlers. You need to realize pacs not the only boxer in history being accused of juicing yet they dont take it to court. You cant judge anyones personalty if you dont know them personaly. Floyd does alot of things in front of the camera for show. But he also does alot of good things Continued above.....
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@blitsziro He does alot of charity and gives alot to the homeless and also paid for the funerals of hernandez and frazier. But unfortunetely not alot of people write about the good things just the bad where as with pacquiao its the other way round like the cocaine, the drugs, cheating on his wife, getting another woman pregnant, attending cock fighting. You get the picture.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part 1: really? pac does that too, lots and lots of it, compare to floyd its not even the half of it. cock fightin? how about floyd nonstop gambling beating a woman, assaulting a man cause his pissed. ur talking about stuffs long long ago, compare to now, floyd from the beginning does all those shit until now, which is why he has so much felony cases. as for personality, u dont pac's personality too. like i said, im judging both of them through their actions and mouth.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part2: take the test and fight fairly? when pac said he wants to have a test exactly after the fight, wats the difference about it? its not like the steroid in his body will be gone after the fight, if he really is. influenced by his handlers my ass. i dont care about them. stop blabbering about cocaine shit. its been a long long long time. its like back in 2003. as for floyd, read between the fucking lines, synthesize his actions and words, then tell me how hypocrite he is.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro What im saying is they both do things and they both have there dark sides. Im talking about facts and you should judge them through facts. How do you know he beat his wife where you there. I bet you dont even know who Josie Harris is. They have said they cant take the test after the fight in the locker rooms for hygene reasons, it doesnt matter now as I believe he wants to.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@blitsziro You should be worried about his handlers, hes been taken advantage of. The point is I like pacquiao but if he wasnt with bob arum the fight would have been made along time ago so why is he still with that lyer.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz its just a BS speculation with no accurate proof, like i said, the fights not happening is becuz of floyd. tell u what, how would u synthesize this, accusing someone then denying, blabbering about the test, acting savvy but just a cheap tawdry bastard, claiming he gets big money who ever he fights but worries about ppv, then fight vargas, saying ur next then denies he didnt say it. how would u synthesize those shit?
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro not speculation, facts. you even admitted they were facts yourself. whats vargas got to do with floyd and manny? when did he deny not saying your next? he just said he was not approached by bob arum to make any negotiations which is believable because when have you heard bobs side of the story? never because he doesnt want to talk about what hes trying to plan. Trust me bobs got manny lined up with marquez, bradley and cotto next.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz facts? for it to be fact u need proof, accurate proof. like floyds accusation and sudden denial. oh about the vargas thing i was refering to khan, when i said about floyd saing pac is next, is the time when floyd said it during press conference on ortiz fight, where after it, he denies it. i dont give a damn about promoters, now synthesize floyd hypocrisy, cause for me, i conclude their just excuses and his scared
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro I dont think khan was ever ready for mayweather. you said you dont give a damn about promoters but at the end of the day pacquiao's the only one that has one and do you honestly think arum wants the fight to happen? When has floyd denied it? hes still calling out pacquiao now. The truth is they both want to fight each other, how can you not see that? but there is a man who holds all the cards but the cards are never gonna be dealt.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz why do u keep blabbering that he didnt say it? want a proof, watch this watch?v=45fSsXPSw0A ever ready? floyd said he wants a young strong and fast opponent which is why he choose ortiz rather khan, get it? then h blabber that khan wont make much ppv. considering khan is from golden boy which he is so proud of. not see it? how can u not see floyds actions? like i said who the fuck is he to accuse then deny? floyd is the only one not making this happen.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro look! that prroves nothing. that just shows that both are told to say things scripted. pacquiao does the same watch?v=XWnlDZ_t_xk
Here is a video with facts about arum's plan watch?v=xScyhwI3vcs
Thats the real reason the fight hasnt happened, because people like you buy into his lies.
Why bring up amir khan? thats not a fight people want to see. I should know because im from the UK. Maybe in 3 years. Im talking Pacquiao.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@blitsziro also, you want to talk about contradictions why dont you mention the contradictions of the pacquiao camp. watch this video watch?v=pQlayWS7TNE
It explains everything. No one in that camp can get there story right, they say one thing (and then as you say deny it) and say something completely different. It is what it is.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz oh right, what a surreal speculation, once again, go research about its side effects, then go compare it to pac, inside the ring and after, like i said they offered a osbt with a cut off then another test exactly after the fight. but still no, give me a good reason why, and a reason why floyd denied an accusation, also side effects.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro we're going backwards here. I already told you the side effects. Big head, increased sexuall tendanceis, bigger eyebrow bridge, criminal activity, shrinkage of the testies. All of which can be linked to pacman! who knows what they offered. It seems they say 1 thing one week and another thing another week. You say speculation but thats the same as what your doing, Wife beating, denying fights etc. Stop being a hypocrite.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part 1:sexual tendencies my ass, criminal activity bs, bigger eyebrow brige?, show me those evidences.. who has more crimes anyway? how about battering a woman assaulting a fan cause his piss off, is a sign of steroid, want a proof, many wrestlers assaulted their wifes cause their overdoes of steroids. stop being a hypocrite? this is what an hypocrite, accusing then denying. claiming next then denying.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro sexual tendencies: cheats on his wife all the time, has baby with another woman and admits it. Criminal activity: taking cocaine and admits it. All facts. The assault you claim is speculation which you accused me of which makes you a hypocrite. accusing then denying. claiming next then denying: in the video below pacquiao states he would fight floyd and anyone, then he says its up to my promoter bob arum. Which one is it?
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part2: as far as i know, one of the more accurate effects of steroids such as hgh are aggression and hypomania, and it doesnt increase sexual tendencies rather decreases it. get ur facts right, rather show me where u get that info that it increases sexual tendencies. also it has a physical side effect such as baldness. want my proof go to wikipedia search anabolic steroid, read the adverse effect section, then show me where u get the shit like increase sexual tendencies.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro another fact of his criminal behaviour is he bets on cock fighting. I get my facts from the USDA website. Have a read.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz oh really? didnt floyd said this that too that its up to his promoter too, get ur facts right, now tell me if this is not hypocrite, accusing then denying, as for cock fighting, search this "Floyd Mayweather Jr is spending his vacation with other chickens"
as for taking cocaine and cheating shit, its been a long long long time, that was like back on yr 2003 or less. want proof? watch?v=i2FqAYsy2UU now tell me is this not hypocrite?
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro for a start you brought this up not me. You were the one who said that floyd wanted the fight and then denied it. all I did was show you some evidence that pacquiao did the same thing which he did right? the fact you stated that floyd did one thing without acknowledging pacquiao doing the same thing makes it hypocritical of you to bring it up. am I right or wrong?
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz part1: really? heres what a hypocrite, pac did say that it depends on his promoter, then after that i show u that mayweather ranting about it, then after that he claims something about his promoter too, now tell me whos not hypocrite, now going back to the accusation and denying, is that not hypocrisy? as for ur right or wrong? pac is not a hypocrite, mayweather is. so if ur claiming to that pac is, then ur wrong.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro part2: as for pac his fine with any opponent, but it would depend on his promoter who will fight, but who ever it is, it doesnt matter to him. got the difference? as for floyd, its not the same as for pac, maybe its the same as what pac also meant. its just that, he's full of shit excuses. now tell me am i right or wrong?
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro im saying your a hypocrite for saying floyd wanted the fight and denying it. pacquiao done the same thing. if you think floyds a hypocrite for those reasons you must think pacquiao is to. Your wrong because he has openly stated he wants to fight may 5th and pacquiao has stated he wants to fight floyd, so they they both want the fight right? so if they both want the fight whose to blame for stopping it? do you not think bob arum has a big say in whether it happens or not?
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz LOL! as for floyd its clear he denied it, even criticizing pac for relying on his promoter i showed u where floyd does it too. if ur refering to the may 5th fight, then to what he said before is not related to it, becuz what im saying is when he said manny ur next then denies it. thats what im saying, he denied manny is next. also the steroid accusation that he denied. like i said, pac is ok to fighting to anyone, but it would depend on his promoter, but he's ok to anyone, get it?
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro so your saying its ok if pacquiao says its up to my promoter but when floyd says its up to al haymon its not ok? so answer me this do you not think bob "bullshit" arum has no intention of making the fight? baob makes about 30 to 40 mil from pacquiao every fight. do you think he would risk loosing that to mayweather?
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz yeah, why? he criticized pac for relying to much on arum, but floyd said the same thing, so what makes him say shit about pac relying too much and he will claim it for him self too? now answer that, also the accusation and denying, what the fuck is up with him? is he taking cocaine or is he on drugs that time that he have forgotten it? i dont give a fuck to arum, u keep on pointing things to arum, but u cant read between the fucking lines of floyds actions and mouth.
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro its go nothing to do with him relying on arum its the fact that hes being exploited by him. although he say it haymon doesnt dictate what floyd does and certainly doesnt take as much money as what arum does so you cant compare the 2. Why do you keep bringing up that floyds on drugs? is because your embarrassed about manny past? if so you shouldnt be because everyone does bad things in life it doesnt make them worse the same as floyd. but I dont see the point in denying it.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago
@DazzaBellz cant compare the 2? why not, he criticize pac for that, but he claims it for him self too, exploit by him? about what that pac is on roids? didnt he denied it? the point is its only an excuse, embaras of manny's past? hell no, its none of my business, like i said wtf is up wd floyd accusing manny then denying, so i speculated maybe he is on drugs that time, or maybe drunk that he have forgotten it. floyd is a one big hypocrite. for the record i dont give a damn about the promoters
blitsziro 2 months ago
@blitsziro cant compare them because bob an actual promoter with more power. al hamon is just an advisor, floyd makes his own decisions at the end of the day. he exploits him out of money and makes sure he fights fighter that are in house I cant believe you cant see that. exactly his past is none of your business or mine. Why are we talking about it? because you brought it up by talking about floyds past.
DazzaBellz 2 months ago