Yes, I remember the nuclear kitsch of 1980s. Actually, here in the U.S. it began in 1979. There was an election campaign, with Carter vs. Reagan, and if anyone was for Reagan, he was for nuclear war.
Once it started, the nuclear kitsch went on and on. And almost in entirety it was coming from the left. You know, "Better red than dead." "Let's all turn Commi so Commies won't nuke us."
Please compare the "man in the street intro" followed by faked vintage clip (made specifically for Brooker) from this clip to the WO-GAN clip in episode 6 (Knowledge) of the same series. Is that genuine broadcast material from the 80s?
He was about 18 and the clip is from 30 years ago. Please subtract and work out why he "failed to remember Orlov". Also take a look at Orlov in the 1983 007 film Octopussy. This spoof dates back to 1981, not 2011. If you look at the frames in the cartoon you can see they're hand done animation frames, not flash animations. This was repeated at times during the 1980s, but lost impact after Gorbachev was pushed into reforms by oil price falls (cutting back USSR siberian oil revenue by half)!
I think what has happened here is the "Chinese whispers" effect. Someone watched this, realized this was a spoof of Ludwig, and jumped to the conclusion - helped by Brooker's introduction and voice-over on the spinning globe BBC lead-in - that the whole thing is a spoof. Actually this reaction is a perfect example of the confusion that occurs when you take something crazy and then add a spoof introduction to it. People don't know how much of it is spoof. The Orlov spoof is now 30 years old!
It's a brooker spoof! Why do you think there's the intro with "classic egg-shaped animation that everyone is sure to remember in 30 years time" ? And why is there the skit with the interviewer asking the guy to pretend to remember Orlov? Why would you british propoganda contain the line "i suppose all animals are ultimately unknowable, even our parents" ? It's a spoof remake. And it's easy to make things look vintage. Do you actually remember seeing this in the 70s?
The voice-over by Brooker and the interview with a teenager about something from 30 years ago are the spoof. The actual animation however is a 30 year old spoof of Ludwig children's animation, sanctioned by the same group of left wing BBC pro-USSR appeasement, anti-civil defence fanatics that produced the later Threads and QED: Guide to Armageddon trash, and the recent Horizon: Science Under Attack rubbish. The BBC are still at it. Are you also claiming Brooker faked the Threads and QED junk?
It's amazing how full of crap you are. It's a spoof made in flash with a filter effect added to make it appear like it was made in the 70's. It's painfully obviously if you've watched any amount of flash animation.
Looking at your channel I'm not quite sure what your stance is supposed to be. Are you claiming that nuclear weapons weren't actually that deadly and all the claims to the contrary were evil leftist propaganda?
You could try sending the BBC producer a message asking if the Orlov spoof is 30 years old or freshly minted by Brooker's team, but try to do it before 1 April.
Yes, I remember the nuclear kitsch of 1980s. Actually, here in the U.S. it began in 1979. There was an election campaign, with Carter vs. Reagan, and if anyone was for Reagan, he was for nuclear war.
Once it started, the nuclear kitsch went on and on. And almost in entirety it was coming from the left. You know, "Better red than dead." "Let's all turn Commi so Commies won't nuke us."
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Kurtlane 6 days ago
Or just "Western nukes are for war' (implying that Soviet ones are for peace.)
It continued until Chernobyl buried the "Soviet nukes are for peace" idea.
Kurtlane 6 days ago
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Please compare the "man in the street intro" followed by faked vintage clip (made specifically for Brooker) from this clip to the WO-GAN clip in episode 6 (Knowledge) of the same series. Is that genuine broadcast material from the 80s?
mankillsquare 11 months ago
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mankillsquare 11 months ago
In fact, why have you cut out the part with the guy failing to remember Orlov?
mankillsquare 1 year ago 2
He was about 18 and the clip is from 30 years ago. Please subtract and work out why he "failed to remember Orlov". Also take a look at Orlov in the 1983 007 film Octopussy. This spoof dates back to 1981, not 2011. If you look at the frames in the cartoon you can see they're hand done animation frames, not flash animations. This was repeated at times during the 1980s, but lost impact after Gorbachev was pushed into reforms by oil price falls (cutting back USSR siberian oil revenue by half)!
camera400 1 year ago
I think what has happened here is the "Chinese whispers" effect. Someone watched this, realized this was a spoof of Ludwig, and jumped to the conclusion - helped by Brooker's introduction and voice-over on the spinning globe BBC lead-in - that the whole thing is a spoof. Actually this reaction is a perfect example of the confusion that occurs when you take something crazy and then add a spoof introduction to it. People don't know how much of it is spoof. The Orlov spoof is now 30 years old!
camera400 1 year ago
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mankillsquare 11 months ago
It's a brooker spoof! Why do you think there's the intro with "classic egg-shaped animation that everyone is sure to remember in 30 years time" ? And why is there the skit with the interviewer asking the guy to pretend to remember Orlov? Why would you british propoganda contain the line "i suppose all animals are ultimately unknowable, even our parents" ? It's a spoof remake. And it's easy to make things look vintage. Do you actually remember seeing this in the 70s?
mankillsquare 1 year ago 3
The voice-over by Brooker and the interview with a teenager about something from 30 years ago are the spoof. The actual animation however is a 30 year old spoof of Ludwig children's animation, sanctioned by the same group of left wing BBC pro-USSR appeasement, anti-civil defence fanatics that produced the later Threads and QED: Guide to Armageddon trash, and the recent Horizon: Science Under Attack rubbish. The BBC are still at it. Are you also claiming Brooker faked the Threads and QED junk?
camera400 1 year ago
@camera400
It's amazing how full of crap you are. It's a spoof made in flash with a filter effect added to make it appear like it was made in the 70's. It's painfully obviously if you've watched any amount of flash animation.
Looking at your channel I'm not quite sure what your stance is supposed to be. Are you claiming that nuclear weapons weren't actually that deadly and all the claims to the contrary were evil leftist propaganda?
noodlezombie 5 months ago
You could try sending the BBC producer a message asking if the Orlov spoof is 30 years old or freshly minted by Brooker's team, but try to do it before 1 April.
camera400 1 year ago