Masha Allah This is a great video! I have been looking for its source all over the interent but I have not found it yet??? Can someone please give me the source?? thank you!
@fuzzywuzy - Nope, just the ultra neocon zionists like you. Let me share something that has been the cause of thousands of people coming to Islam after their false notions were debased: tinyurl . com / 27d97x8
@fuzzywuzy - those are the words of your true founder Paul and neither Jesus nor God. Please learn your texts before you propose them to justify your cult. Far removed is Jesus (pbuh) to what you ascribe to him and far removed is your perpetual allegations that have been refuted numerous times. The fact you either have not bothered to read them or do not know they exist reflects your own insincerity than anything else.
There are so many stories of jesus that arent put in the bible. To think the bible captured every little bit is just naive. This is a great story thank you.
@fuzzywuzy - In Luke 19:27 we read the (alleged) words of Jesus (pbuh): "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" - You will see how easily such quotes can be misunderstood out of context, very much like everything else you've been rambling on about. Get off your backside and do some proper learning before making a bigger bigoted fascist of yourself. The more you lie against Islam, the stronger it gets :^)
@zakuk77 You will notice that I am not using any quotes. I am simply stating a holistic knowlege of historical Mohammed that cannot be taken out of context - because it is the absolute context of his entire life.
The Qur'an is not in chronological order - but is ordered from longest chapters to shortest. To get the context, you really have to use the Haditha and perhaps Sira from Ibn Ishaq and Tabari - There are about 40 non Muslim sources as well
@fuzzywuzy - holistic knowledge is no knowledge as far as Islam is concerned, because our creedal and legislative foundations are based on the authority of texts and referential integrity. But you would not know this because your self-inflicted ignorance is a bliss for you.
@zakuk77 No, I just explained the texts that I used to glean this knowlege. Everything that I have said is factual and in context. The Qur'an is out of context - because it is not in chronological order. It takes much study to put it into chronological context.
This makes it extremely confusing to the lay person to read - but it makes perfect sense when you build a chronology of it.
Mohammed started as a pious man until the "Year of Sorrow" when Khadijah and abu Talib died. (619 CE)
@fuzzywuzy - I am beginning to think I am speaking to a brick wall here so pardon me if I stop entertaining your time-wasting antics in the very near future. Your lack of knowledge about anything related to Islam is one thing, but then trying to force your self-inflicted ignorance on others is indeed a sign of desperation and pure idiocy.
@zakuk77 When you use the words bigot, fascist, genocide, terrorist so loosely (often for someone who disagrees with you) you villianize the innocent and, in the same stroke, trivialize the guilty.
Anyone who really studies the truth about Islam is discounted as a bigot.
The very notion that this story states that Jesus would leave a sinner to die in the desert serves as an erosive effect that it is okay to judge and to leave one to die - against the very essence of Jesus' teaching.
@fuzzywuzy - The problem is you are far from even knowing the ABC of Islam, let alone anything else of this faith that is followed by nearly 1/5 of humanity. As for the Christian Church, I know very well there is a huge divide/discrepancy between the texts of the Bible (what remains of the real gospels anyway) and Church doctrines, between the letter of the law and the "spirit of the law", this is another reason why ex-Christians no longer tolerate the contradictions & inconsistencies
@fuzzywuzy - I challenge you to bring stats related to warfare in the last 500 years and let us see who it is that gets the accolade for the most blood-letting and the reasons behind it. I fear you will not be up for this challenge!
@zakuk77 This story (not in the Qur'an or Haditha) is a bridge of justification for violence and abandonment - Jesus' whole life was opposed to the action
In the Hadith (Muslim 16:4131) - They were caught and brought to him [Mohammed] He commanded about them, and their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. Muhammad had two killers put to death, not in the way of "an eye-for-an-eye," but in a more agonizing manner.
@fuzzywuzy - This is a clear about the quoting out-of-context and sweeping centuries of old biblical and jewish traditions and customs under the carpet. It was not until a few centuries ago that Christianity went through another round of revision and amendment (after the many subsequent revisions starting from first council of Nicaea). Very little survives of the origins of Christianity and this alone renders anything you claim about Jesus (pbuh) to be slander and heresy.
In the ending of the Gospel of John, he wrote that there are many other stuff Jesus has done that if written the whole world won't be enough for the books!
It's a big exaggeration, but it answers your question.
@MissNobodyful No, you won't find it in the new testament. John 6:22-40 only hints at this parable which is mostly in the Ebiomite Christian tradition. (considered lost).
Mohammed received religious instruction from his wife's (Khadijah) parental cousin (Waraqah) an Ebiomite Priest in the tradition of Arias and the Christian King of Aksum considered the Muslims to be Christians during the Hijra.
This all changed when his money ran out and Khadijah died in 619 CE and Mohammed became a raider.
@fuzzywuzy - Stop giving us your faulty interpretations. He did not abandon him because he gave him all the wealth he needed. It is not customary for Prophets of God to keep company with liars amongst the believers. Secondly, this episode shows that Prophets do not know the unseen except what he given to them from the Almighty, who is the All-Knower and All-Knowledgeable.
@fuzzywuzy - In all honesty no one would come to the NT to know what Jesus (pbuh) really taught, your slander and blasphemy against him is not hidden from the thousands who leave the church and embrace the truth of Islam. I think we have indeed come to the end of the road because I have little time to entertain dimwits, with all due respect. My finals words of advice: Learn your own texts before attempting to learn others' and stop relying on bad out-of-context translations. Adios.
Masha Allah This is a great video! I have been looking for its source all over the interent but I have not found it yet??? Can someone please give me the source?? thank you!
detour14 1 month ago
*perhaps
Heycool08 1 month ago
@realbasil Mohammed is the Antichrist. :) All of the religious authorities of the day said so. Christian and Jew alike.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - Nope, just the ultra neocon zionists like you. Let me share something that has been the cause of thousands of people coming to Islam after their false notions were debased: tinyurl . com / 27d97x8
Good luck.
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 Ultra neocon - no
Zionist - don't know yet... possibly
I remember a phrase from that book you call heretical (the Bible)
1 Cor 14:33 "for God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints"
Of course the Qur'an is purposely written in fragments (to confuse) and Mohammed was not of peace - but of war.
Islam was spread by the sword... Ghazwah, Siryah and Riddah... wasn't it?
Be honest now - there are many historical documents to back it up.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - those are the words of your true founder Paul and neither Jesus nor God. Please learn your texts before you propose them to justify your cult. Far removed is Jesus (pbuh) to what you ascribe to him and far removed is your perpetual allegations that have been refuted numerous times. The fact you either have not bothered to read them or do not know they exist reflects your own insincerity than anything else.
zakuk77 2 months ago
this is the best video I've ever seen in my life
soulofangel1990 3 months ago
There are so many stories of jesus that arent put in the bible. To think the bible captured every little bit is just naive. This is a great story thank you.
timothythered 5 months ago in playlist 44ky1's Favorited Videos
@timothythered Jesus wouldn't abandon anyone to die in the desert - even if they were greedy and deceitful. Judgement is God's
Only Mohammed would judge and leave someone to die.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - In Luke 19:27 we read the (alleged) words of Jesus (pbuh): "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" - You will see how easily such quotes can be misunderstood out of context, very much like everything else you've been rambling on about. Get off your backside and do some proper learning before making a bigger bigoted fascist of yourself. The more you lie against Islam, the stronger it gets :^)
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 You will notice that I am not using any quotes. I am simply stating a holistic knowlege of historical Mohammed that cannot be taken out of context - because it is the absolute context of his entire life.
The Qur'an is not in chronological order - but is ordered from longest chapters to shortest. To get the context, you really have to use the Haditha and perhaps Sira from Ibn Ishaq and Tabari - There are about 40 non Muslim sources as well
Use bigot and fascist loosely - truth
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - holistic knowledge is no knowledge as far as Islam is concerned, because our creedal and legislative foundations are based on the authority of texts and referential integrity. But you would not know this because your self-inflicted ignorance is a bliss for you.
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 No, I just explained the texts that I used to glean this knowlege. Everything that I have said is factual and in context. The Qur'an is out of context - because it is not in chronological order. It takes much study to put it into chronological context.
This makes it extremely confusing to the lay person to read - but it makes perfect sense when you build a chronology of it.
Mohammed started as a pious man until the "Year of Sorrow" when Khadijah and abu Talib died. (619 CE)
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - I am beginning to think I am speaking to a brick wall here so pardon me if I stop entertaining your time-wasting antics in the very near future. Your lack of knowledge about anything related to Islam is one thing, but then trying to force your self-inflicted ignorance on others is indeed a sign of desperation and pure idiocy.
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 When you use the words bigot, fascist, genocide, terrorist so loosely (often for someone who disagrees with you) you villianize the innocent and, in the same stroke, trivialize the guilty.
Anyone who really studies the truth about Islam is discounted as a bigot.
The very notion that this story states that Jesus would leave a sinner to die in the desert serves as an erosive effect that it is okay to judge and to leave one to die - against the very essence of Jesus' teaching.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - The problem is you are far from even knowing the ABC of Islam, let alone anything else of this faith that is followed by nearly 1/5 of humanity. As for the Christian Church, I know very well there is a huge divide/discrepancy between the texts of the Bible (what remains of the real gospels anyway) and Church doctrines, between the letter of the law and the "spirit of the law", this is another reason why ex-Christians no longer tolerate the contradictions & inconsistencies
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 1/5 of humanity?... Maybe 1/5 of perpetual war is more accurate.
Mohammed, the Rashidun, Ibn al Waleed, al Qasim, al Zaid, abd ar Rahman... all rightfully guided conquerors - not men of peace.
Jesus and his disciples killed nobody
Mohammed and the Rashidun killed 1.2 million people.
Fortunately, all you have to do is abide by the 10 Commandments.
believe in the Prophecy of Jesus, and have a personal relationship with God.
It is all about the spirit - not the doctrine.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - I challenge you to bring stats related to warfare in the last 500 years and let us see who it is that gets the accolade for the most blood-letting and the reasons behind it. I fear you will not be up for this challenge!
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 This story (not in the Qur'an or Haditha) is a bridge of justification for violence and abandonment - Jesus' whole life was opposed to the action
In the Hadith (Muslim 16:4131) - They were caught and brought to him [Mohammed] He commanded about them, and their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. Muhammad had two killers put to death, not in the way of "an eye-for-an-eye," but in a more agonizing manner.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - This is a clear about the quoting out-of-context and sweeping centuries of old biblical and jewish traditions and customs under the carpet. It was not until a few centuries ago that Christianity went through another round of revision and amendment (after the many subsequent revisions starting from first council of Nicaea). Very little survives of the origins of Christianity and this alone renders anything you claim about Jesus (pbuh) to be slander and heresy.
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 Muhammad had two killers put to death - there is the context.
Yes, the Bible was translated from the ancient Greek form to English.
Mohammed received religious instruction from an Iconoclastic Nestorian or Arian Monk, named Bahira in Bosra, Syria.
He received additional counsel from Waraqah - this is confirmed in the Qur'an when the Muslims testified to Najashi during the Second Hijra to Aksum
Sirat Rasul Allah by ibn Ishaq and Qur'an 19 confirms it - the same relationship.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
What a tremendous story,,, full of lessens. Thanks a lot
aseer111111 6 months ago
I was raised Christian and I never, ever, ever heard this story about Jesus. I'm almost positive this isn't in the Bible.
Any fellow Christians remember anything at all like this in the New Testament? :S
MissNobodyful 6 months ago
@MissNobodyful
its not going to be in the NEW testament, the bible has been changed so much I wouldn't be suprised if that story isn't there.
OmarBakir123 6 months ago
@MissNobodyful
In the ending of the Gospel of John, he wrote that there are many other stuff Jesus has done that if written the whole world won't be enough for the books!
It's a big exaggeration, but it answers your question.
ArabyGUC 5 months ago
@MissNobodyful No, you won't find it in the new testament. John 6:22-40 only hints at this parable which is mostly in the Ebiomite Christian tradition. (considered lost).
Mohammed received religious instruction from his wife's (Khadijah) parental cousin (Waraqah) an Ebiomite Priest in the tradition of Arias and the Christian King of Aksum considered the Muslims to be Christians during the Hijra.
This all changed when his money ran out and Khadijah died in 619 CE and Mohammed became a raider.
fuzzywuzy 3 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - you really need to learn before you speak: tinyurl . com / 6ov7tdq - I also suggest you read the renowned islamic- awareness . org site.
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 You know that Mohammed was a kept man.
When his wife, Khadijah, died in 619, he started raiding caravans.
After 6 raids (2 were sucessful) He was a wanted criminal and a cult of personality.
Mohammed took over Medina and used it as his base to raid other communities
He made treaties when his forces were weak and he broke them when he was strong
He justified rape, slavery. torture, theft and slaughter - because everyone outside that realm was kuffara
tell the truth - don't lie
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
wow. that was really interesting :) thank you for uploading that
Marzieh95 6 months ago
Because we believe in all the prophets and Jesus (Peace be upon him) was also a prophet and respectable for Muslims just like Christians
adnannawaz51 10 months ago 2
why do u say "jesus peace be upon him" everytime u say jesus ?
yuwu94 10 months ago
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@yuwu94 cuz he was a prophet and we say peace be upon him to all the prophets.
mariyamhobo 10 months ago 4
@yuwu94
It's an Islamic teaching to be polite with the Prophets who God has blessed
ArabyGUC 5 months ago
@yuwu94 It is customary to say that in Islam when refering to a prophet of God.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
It is mentioned in the Qu'ran. As is many wonderful stories of the prophets filed with moral values for humanity to live by.
Warfresco 11 months ago
@Warfresco
It's not mentioned in the Quran... I memorize most of the Quran letter by letter :) It's not there!
ArabyGUC 5 months ago
@ArabyGUC You are correct. Jesus would never judge and abandon someone to die in the desert - even if they were greedy and deceitful.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - Stop giving us your faulty interpretations. He did not abandon him because he gave him all the wealth he needed. It is not customary for Prophets of God to keep company with liars amongst the believers. Secondly, this episode shows that Prophets do not know the unseen except what he given to them from the Almighty, who is the All-Knower and All-Knowledgeable.
zakuk77 2 months ago
@zakuk77 This is something that you may never understand - but I hope you do.
Jesus taught us to have our own personal relationship with God.
To pray when the holy spirit (of God) moves you - but in private for God knows what you do.
Jesus was the good shepard that tended his flock (his fellow man) anything that he did had purpose - only for good and the salvation of men.
The story is false because that sinner was not saved - it's not from the Qur'an either.
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
@fuzzywuzy - In all honesty no one would come to the NT to know what Jesus (pbuh) really taught, your slander and blasphemy against him is not hidden from the thousands who leave the church and embrace the truth of Islam. I think we have indeed come to the end of the road because I have little time to entertain dimwits, with all due respect. My finals words of advice: Learn your own texts before attempting to learn others' and stop relying on bad out-of-context translations. Adios.
zakuk77 2 months ago 2
@Warfresco Really? Which of the Suwar? 19? 61? Anyone know?
fuzzywuzy 2 months ago
Salams, I was wondering where this story is from? JZK
felixfel6 1 year ago