Too bad these two guys have no fucking clue that they were dealing with the ENEMY right there. If they studied the players in 9/11 they would realize that Talmudic Jews created a war between muslims and christians, so they kill each other off.
en argentina los nazis que refugiaron al siniestro doctor mengule y a hitler con su esposa poseen en la actualidad las empresas multinacionales mas importantes de argentina siguen experimentos humanos digitados desde sus empresas victimas inocentes que ignoran ser ratas de laboratorio de los nazis los descendientes de los nazis deben tenr todos las memorias de estos criminales de guerra pero la esquizofrenia es herditaria hacen experimentos en sus empresas desintegran familias enteras
the guy on the left actually had a moment of glory there when he got the flow into the conversation. you need to present youself confident, non-desperate and serious with logical arguments that challenge the OCT instead of spewing theories. lets find out this together type of thing. keep improving and keep up the good spirit.
You're just an other operative assign to attack the truth movement Fox news style. I mean your channel is dedicated to that. It could not be more obvious.
Really? That's the best you've got? If you have nothing better to do than accuse truthers of being homosexual pedopheliacs, I shouldn't have wasted these 191 keystrokes on you son of a bitch.
Well, you guys are really barking up the wrong tree here. It's kind of silly. Simon Weisanthal Center exists for one purpose: to defend the horrible actions of some Jewish organizations from any criticism. It's a zionist flank defensive, dressed up as ann organization that claims to fight against persecution. The only persecution they are truly interested in protecting against is persecution of zionists. 9/11 was committed to advance a zionist agenda.
Check out Peter Lowy and his connections to Rand Corp, Simon W institute, and WTC. Did you know that Lowy was co owner of the WTC with Larry "pull it" Silverstein? Do the math people S 1959 Harmans thought crime bill is no accedent. INVESTIGATE. Open your eyes.
With all due respect,because the info not being made of what transpired that day is leading people to hit these panic buttons. It is obvious the man knows what it is butI dont think he is at liberty to say anything untill after the KSM trial.
Psychologically speaking he is completely closed down and in full denial and defensive mode; if you observe the tone of voice and body language, i.e.; his head cocked to one side, arms tightly crossed the entire time and then when it heats up, he drops into a wide stance.
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I have to believe that George Bush & neocons are delighted that all the conspiracy theorists are running around chasing after nonexistent explosives, nonexistent missiles, and nonexistent conspiracies instead of raising hell about extraordinary rendition, domestic wiretapping, and other REAL crimes. There's nothing like a good diversion to keep people off your back. The only agenda being served by pushing this disinformation conspiracy garbage is Bush's.
There is disinformation floating around pockets of the 9-11 truth movement, but that is because the truth of 9-11 being a treasonous false-flag operation is so incendiary, that as a movement, it must be attacked by disinformation. The entire point of the movement is not a disinfo campaign, even if you are not able or willing to face the fact that 9-11 was treason. It must be attacked through disinfo because if attacked outwardly, it's point would be proven. Karl Rove wishes 9-11 truth gone.
poor poetryhound,who, along w simon wiesenthal center,had positioned itself as a primary opponent to 911 free speech,& the characterization of scientist engineers & concerned citizens as terrorists who will join vegeterians,& constitution copy holders as potential terrorists, if fbi`s watchlist is included, this is the world turned upside down.poetryhound is at the heart of this debacle,good jews will have no part of this, unfortunately poetry hound is something else entirely.another agenda
Google "Peter Lowy" and you can find how RAND, SWC, and the world trade center property are all connected. Peter Lowy is with RAND and the SWC and he was part owner (Westfield) of the WTC with Larry "pull it" Silverstein. So it becomes clear why RAND and SWC support the Thought Crime bill S. 1959. Check it out and find the truth that Lowy profited from 9/11 and is now involved with making dissent illegal. The truth is plain as day to those who look.
Barry Jennings -- WTC survivor. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Was in WTC Building 7 on 9/11.
"Me and Mr. Hess, Corporation Counsel [of New York City], were on the 23th floor [of WTC 7]. I told him we gotta get out of here. We started walking down the stairs. We get to the 8th floor. Big Explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor."
Thanks for posting this & all the lively comments too. Some of us have taken a while to ask for the truth, some aren't ready yet. Can we defeat the NWO with a computer? Anyone who doesn't think that Israel is involved with 9-11 is naïve, at best. Isn't USA support of Israel, a country that is unable to support the USA, uses USA made cluster bombs on innocent women and children, and puts The USA at odds with most of the the world, a bad idea? In one year Israel broke 248 UN resolutions. Thanks.
I should add that the S.W.C. and related groups care about one thing. -Jews. If you mention the slaughter of other races they become rather annoyed. It is our obligation to focus on THEM and THEIR HOLOCAUST. -Especially when they are called to task for their misdeeds. So no matter what they do to fuck over other people, they can say "what about the holocaust?"
Sounds like a pretty convenient arrangement! Nevertheless, I give the video 5 stars for their courage in fucking with this guy.
Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -- Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the NSA. 20-year USAF career.
"It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics."
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) -- Retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown. 20-year Marine Corps career.
"Our government has been hijacked by means of a "new Pearl Harbor" and a lot of otherwise good and decent people who are gullible enough to think that the first three steel-framed buildings in history fall down because they have some fires that the fire fighter on the scene said could be knocked down with a couple of hoses."
Col. James R. Uhl, MD, MC, U.S. Army (ret) -- Retired Army physician. Served in several theaters of operations, from Viet Nam through Iraq. Former Member, Certification in Military Medicine Working Group. 38-year Army career.
"There is a well-organized cover-up of the events of 11 Sep 2001. The 9/11 Commission was a white-washed farce. There is evidence that US Government officials had advance knowledge of and are probably implicated in the events of 9/11."
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) -- Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.
"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident."
"My research led me to a much more important and timely question: the mystery of what really did happen on 9/11. Everything that seemed real, turned out to be false. The US government and the news media, once again, were lying to the world about the real terrorists and the public murder of 2,972 innocents on 9/11.
Capt. Russ Wittenberg, USAF -- Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and UA for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown.
"I don't believe it's possible for a so-called terrorist to train on a Cessna, then jump in a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate, lateral navigate, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit by over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's."
A truther who also just "knew" that 9/11 was a false-flag operation FROM DAY ONE... ON THE MORNING OF THE ATTACK... before he'd ever even HEARD of Hani Hanjour.
""I don't believe it's possible for a so-called terrorist..""
A "so-called terrorist"? Hmm.
""..to train on a Cessna, then jump in a 757-767 class cockpit..""
The didn't just "jump in".
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"..at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time.."
"Reality: As I've explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour's flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation's capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757's autopilot.
"Striking a stationary object -- even a large one like the Pentagon -- at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon's lawn.
It's true there's only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league."
"However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship."
"The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes' navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won't be good, but you'll be good enough."
"They'd done their homework and they had what they needed," says a United Airlines pilot..."
Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -- Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
"The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It's impossible."
80,000 engineers at the American Institute of Engineers have NOT publicly endorsed the Official collapse theory of the WTC. Actually there are no more than 20 engineers or architects I've been able to find world-wide who have publicly supported the Official NIST report.
engineer Mike Pecoraro was working in 6th sub-basement of the North Tower. After an explosion, he and a co-worker went up to C-level machine shop and saw "There was nothing there but rubble."
"We're talking about a 50-ton hydraulic press-gone!"
Backs up Wille Rodriguez's testimony about explosive events in basements.
Alot of police know. I have been questioned by both Homeland Security and LAPD while doing freeway blogging.
Both asked what we were doing and what my sign said, and after I told them:
"9-11 = inside job
google WTC 7 and false-flag terror"
they both said "Carry on."
the police officer said "good work."
I mean I've also had an LAPD officer ask me whether I took medication after talking to him about 9-11, so it goes both ways. But many know, they have a stomach for the truth.
Many Fire fighters in NY and around the country know the deal. The NY fire fighters have been put under great duress and pressure to stay quiet rather than discuss this.
More than a few fire trucks have honked and/or fire fighters waved at 9-11 truth activists on the street.
how about David Miller, 1st responder Army National Guardsman?
Philip Morelli-North Tower construction worker saw people who had been "Blown to floor" and "the walls hit em in the face" by explosions sub basement 4
Each of the "Axis of Good" (US, UK, Israel) have their own part of the interlocking criminal Secret government to deal with.
And it will be better for everybody involved when we all become equal under the Rule of the Law. even the criminals. If they turn themselves in, the people will be more compassionate to them.
IN terms of the Odigo messages, what is important is that it shows general foreknowledge by an Israeli. Many people had foreknowledge. The Bush administration had foreknowledge, hell, even the show "The Lone Gunman" exactly predicted the 9-11 coup faction attack with remote-controlled hijacks of planes flown into the Twin Towers.
"...the Odigo messages, what is important is that it shows general foreknowledge by an Israeli."
No, it does not. The Odigo "warnings" didn't even mention the WTC. In fact, they weren't even "warnings" so much as a general prediction which could have originated from anyone.
Bear in mind that these messages were sent TO Israeli recipients. So, if anything, they reflect the "general foreknowledge" of whoever it is that SENT them.
And, for all we know, that could have been YOU, Shumonik.
From the Haaretz article: "Micha Macover, CEO of the [Odigo], said the two workers.. immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender.".."
So the only reason we even KNOW about these Odigo "warnings" is because the Israelis who RECEIVED them alerted the authorities. And that's the important thing.
Right, I agree. I'm not singling out Israelis about the Odigo messages and general foreknowledge. I'm just saying that when you add that with all the warnings from intelligence agencies including israeli, the threat in Genoa at the G8, the mimetic war games, the "Lone Gunman" WTC false-flag attack episode in the year prrior, the August PDB, the FBI Phoenix memo, you get a clear sense of they are lying when they say "nobody knew"
"...when you add [the Odigo messages] with all the warnings from intelligence agencies including israeli, the threat in Genoa at the G8, the mimetic war games, the "Lone Gunman"..."
Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS. Those who research more find out that false flag operations are conducted regularly by governments all over the world against their own people. Knowledge is power. The truth will set you free. Google: Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Attack on U.S.S. Liberty, Reichstag Fire, Sinking of the Maine in Havana harbor, on and on. There are too many false flags to list. Watch Terrorstorm on Google video.
His argument about 80,000 members of the American Institute of Civil Engineers & Architects and Architects & Engineers only having 200 (now 260) members is one I've heard many times before on reddit and digg.
Interesting argument, disposable propaganda, straight from the MOSSAD play book, delivered in a Chomsky like manner.
The TRUTH isn't a popularity contest, we have the TRUTH about 9/11, MOSSAD front organizations do not.
"But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong."
Would you care to put that to the test right here in front the readers of these comments (or, if you prefer, in the comments section of your own video - you'd have to re-instate me, of course)?
We could start with the Odigo "warnings" (i.e., that steaming load of crap you were laying on Sensenbrenner). Let's see if you have the courage to defend your assertions in a forum where you don't have the power to ban when the heat gets turned up.
I ALWAYS have an open door for people to debate me live on a radio show for all to hear. Step up to the plate badass. My email is prothink @ yahooDOTcom
Bring you brass balls and ignorance and prepare to bring your best.
Let's start with an excerpt of that excrement you dumped at Sensenbrenner's feet:
Prothink: "...we had a report out of an Israeli paper Haaretz... Odigo says workers were warned of attack. The instant messenger service Odigo... sent out a message 2 hours previous to the attacks not to go to work that day... you know what the result was? Only one Israeli died who happened to be on the plane, and thousands of them worked in the towers."
First of all, you weren't reading from Haaretz. You were reading from Alex Jones. Here is an excerpt from the actual Haaretz article:
Haaretz: "Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack."
"Haaretz: "Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages...""
Did you get that part, Bainbridge? Only TWO of the workers received messages. No mention of any warning "not to go to work". You pulled that part out of your own ass.
The workers in question were based in Israel. Odigo had no offices in the WTC, so there were no workers there to "warn".
* First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.* If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.* If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person or persons.
* If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks
I have personally banned "falconApoda" for being a Zio-shill and wasting so much of my time responding to his nonsense. You guys might want to do it yourselves. You'll just waste time on this guy and there are a lot more pearls before swine...
Prothink: "I have personally banned "falconApoda" for being a Zio-shill and wasting so much of my time responding to his nonsense."
Near as I can tell, you never did respond to anything I posted.
You're a liar, prothink. You tell lies in your videos wherein you make an ass of yourself in front of public figures who have 10x more integrity in their pinky fingers than possess in your entire body.
You banned me our of fear that others might actually recognize the lies of yours that I point out.
Prothink: "I have personally banned "falconApoda"... You guys might want to do it yourselves."
And isn't interesting how the truther response to challengers of their assertions is to censor and ban such people from their forums and implore others to do the same.
People who protest suppression and claim to be seeking "truth" are themselves suppressing dissent from their midst to give the illusion that everyone agrees with their point of view.
keep up the good work. you're right ~ there are millions, and the numbers are growing everyday. this will not go away; until they finally make the move and attempt to "force" us to go away. heh, using force to promote and idea or belief. sounds like what they criminalize in hr1955. irony or hypocrisy?
the post 9-11 era, has cemented us into the post-reason and post-science era. Except those willing to face the facts and speak them to the people are going to break through the stultification of human understanding and freedom of thought.
Eliminate the fact of the attack and look into the reasons why , Nuffrespect on his website has some realy hard core journalists that followed the money trail,
In Canada the offical goverment owned and operated company called the CBC has released A shocking part series, That not only ties the Bush Administration to the Binladin Family but reaches into the real powers behind that morning,
On that morning my Lebinese boss told me they are going to blame arabs for this,
How twisted in their purpose has the SWC become. My god now they are serving the interests of the new nazis. Mark my words the neo-cons ARE the new nazis. The SWC has lost it's way.
this was very well done, you stayed calm and managed to actually get some points across. this is a much better aproach than the usual more emotionally charged confrontations that we normally see, those people will often get booted out before even making a good case for what they are saying good work guys. Don't worry about the discouragement from falcon and others, they can't help the fact that they live in a country that doesn't provide means to a solid education and thus a strong mind.
Thanks Cody. He let us get some points across. Not everybody does. Their guilt or fear of the truth makes THEM hostile or insulting or run away. We did not go there to confront Simon Wiesenthal Center. We went there to get important points across to one of the leading Jewish organizations that focuses on the consequences of the Nazi Fascist Regime.
It's important that people wake up to the sick situation that has built up around us, and getting to the root of the 9-11 Truth is one of the best and quickest ways to wake people up.
when being asked to take a second look at the evidence a jury under the reasonable doubt is obliged to do this.
The publics the jury and from just the motives behind 911 there is an abundance of evidence that does not support the offical story.. I know i had to sit on a Jury.
Don't let the lowest common denominator in society (truth deniers) take us all down with them. Stand up and speak up, save your country that has been hijacked!
Investigate 9/11 and stop them from ever doing false flag operations again. Help the sick and dying first responders (Feal Good Foundation).
If you have any honor in you STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH! STAND UP NOW!
"Investigate 9/11 and stop them from ever doing false flag operations again."
Like the USS Liberty, perhaps (something you've mentioned before)?
News flash: The incident wasn't a "false flag". The attacking boats were marked as Israeli. They signalled offers of assistance about an hour after the ship was taken under fire (with no further attack). The Navy Court found that it was the result of mistaken identity. The ship's CO testified as to his belief that the attack was in error.
Barry Jennings -- WTC survivor. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Was in WTC Building 7 on 9/11.
"Me and Mr. Hess, Corporation Counsel [of New York City], were on the 23th floor [of WTC 7]. I told him we gotta get out of here. We started walking down the stairs. We get to the 8th floor. Big Explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor."
William Rice, PE -- Registered Professional Civil Engineer who worked on structural steel and concrete buildings in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia.
"Even if Newton's Law is ignored, the prevailing theory would have us believe that each of the Twin Towers inexplicably collapsed upon itself crushing all 287 massive columns on each floor while maintaining a free-fall speed as if the 100,000, or more, tons of supporting structural-steel framework underneath didn't exist."
How unfortunate that the Simon Wiesenthal Center disparages - rather than supports - the groups of people that are working to get accountability for the 9/11 attacks.
Rick is a liar, Weitzman never once mentioned freedom of speech in his congressiobal presentation. Not only did weitzman group truthers as terrorists, but he also grouped those who advocate more stringent border controls as terrorists.
Mr. Gage was taken advantage of dishonest creeps like you when he originally set up his website. He was out of town when it happened and he corrected the problem when he found out about it.
He never corrected the information. You think there are that many A&E's for 9/11 truth-- you are gullible-- you FAIL -- at faster than freefall speedz.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about, GwionX.
Most A&E's have never studied the demolitions of the WTC.
And there are just as many A&E's who've gone on public record saying that they believe the WTC fell from explosives, as there are who've said fire and structural damage caused it AFTER researching both sides of the issue.
Where are their peer-reviewed white papers? Why are there no relevant journals calling "foul"-- Why do all the 9/11 conspiracy theories originate from "professional conspiracy theory salesmen?" If WTC collapse was so obvious, WHERE was the outcry from licenced professionals (who could understand the events)7 years ago? Are we to believe Radio DJ's and Beat writers for the American Free Press were the only ones that could cut through the fog? Oh--and YOU of course.. brave troofseeker.
Don't be a dumb Sheep, Most of the info does come from Experts such as Scientist, Engineers,Architects,Physicists and more
Do u Know who Morgan Reynolds is? Do U know who Paul Craig Roberts is? I'm sure U don't, U would'nt be making stupid ass comments If U did, As far as Sales No one in the 911 Truth movment sells shit, Do some reading, Stop watching T.V it'll make u Stupider than U already Are
Don't get brainwashed with bad info from BIASED sources. Morgan Reynolds- Yup.. Jim Fetzer taught at UofM (Duluth) He also believes in EVERY conspiracy there is. Griffin id a THEOLOGY proffessor, Judy Woods is an Eng, but moonbat crazy.. Gage designs IHOPS..no not MIHOPS but actuall IHOPS and has NEVR designed a structure over two stories. NIST researches are the top StrEng in their field..BAzant, Greening, Zou all have more specific expertise than ANYONE "Twoof" can shove forward.Stupid?Feh!
EVERY TWOOFER site sells their shit--from t-shirts to spools of dvds (so mindless followers can spread the twoof--at a low, low cost point;) The LooseChange boys are even selling "trilogy box sets" BWAHAHA -Suckahz
Gage and his A&E fer twoof is currently begging for handouts..it is all about duping dumasses and collecting coin--for a cause, of course.. Too bad the cause is so ridiculously flawed that 7 years later the "movement' has devolved into clownish harrasment tactics. Nothing More.
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"...the "movement' has devolved into clownish harrasment tactics.."
The "truth" movement is, in fact, dead.
It's animated now to the extent that some hardcore believers have managed to maintain a wire connection from a Tucker telephone around its balls, and then they vigorously crank the handle while the body makes flopping motions.
They then dance around excitedly, declaring the movement more alive than ever... waving their asses in the air and stinking up the room with their farts.
Interesting take-- I notice that Alexa ratings show participation and page views at "Troofer" sites has been declining rapidly--to the point that Barney (the purple dinosaur) is now more popular than these poorly orchestrated conspiracy theories. Seeing as most 'barney fans' cannot access the intratubes due to them being illiterate BABIES-- I feel the numbers are grossly skewed. .0001% of America is active in Twoof these days...
Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS. Those who research more find out that false flag operations are conducted regularly by governments all over the world against their own people. Knowledge is power. The truth will set you free. Google: Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Attack on U.S.S. Liberty, Reichstag Fire, Sinking of the Maine in Havana harbor, on and on. There are too many false flags to list. Watch Terrorstorm on Google video.
"Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS."
Those who do the research quickly, you mean. Lazy-minded individuals with egos the size of cathedrals.
"The truth will set you free."
The truth, perhaps.
9/11 "truth", on the other hand, will keep you enslaved... to your own paranoid delusions... to your own over-inflated sense of self-importance. Such is the thing within a certain segment of the population to which 9/11 "truth" is specifically-catered.
"Why are there no relevant journals calling "foul""
Why? LOL. Here's what Dr. Frank Greening recently said about that:
"I have a personal e-mail FROM A VERY RESPECTED PROFFESOR OF ENGINEERING at an AMERICAN UNIVERSITY in which he notes that his attempts to publish his research into the collapse of WTC 1 & 2 in US and British journals has been blocked. This means work disputing NIST's findings is nowhere to be found because it is simply being censored by over-cautious editors!"
Thanks for doing what every American should. I saw the entire Weitzman testimony, which sandwiched an architects + engineers site questioning 9/11 between terrorist training sites, and while that screen was up, Weitzman said "soon, soon, soon the attack on Manhattan." It's tasteless and libelous -- not at all what the ae911 site is about. Find + watch the testimony, and educate yourself on the propaganda techniques being employed against your right to question the gov't + to have free speech.
Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS. Those who research more find out that false flag operations are conducted regularly by governments all over the world against their own people. Knowledge is power. The truth will set you free. Google: Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Attack on U.S.S. Liberty, Reichstag Fire, Sinking of the Maine in Havana harbor, on and on. There are too many false flags to list. Watch Terrorstorm on Google video.
When asked "You think it fell down because of gravity and fire?"
He responds...
"Whatever, I don't think it was blown up."
That sounds to me alot like he does not even have a basic grasp of the evidence for demolitions and probably ruled it out without even looking at the evidence. I think McCain did something similar by saying Fahrenheit 9/11 was an aweful film without having seen it, didn't he?
"When I got there we were setting up triage sites very close to the area. The triage site that I was setting up was behind, to the east of Building 7 where Building 7 came down. What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon afternoon, after mid-day on 9/11 we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down.. I do believe that they brought Building 7 down."
".."INDIRA: "The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word 'we're going to have to bring it down.'".."
Since when is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business? Isn't it possible (indeed probable) that Singh simply got confused as to what it was to which the "fire department" was referring?
That's assuming she's being honest in her testimony. I wonder... when, exactly, did she say this, and why was it the first time we'd ever heard such testimony?
"Since when is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business?"
They're not. The FDNY were just following orders. Controlled demolition workers were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and were the ones most likely passing the information on to the fire fighters, to get people away from the Building, because it was going to be "brought Down" by explosives. Or perhaps Ms. Singh spoke with controlled demolition workers thinking they were FDNY.
"...you don't believe that controlled demolition workers were on scene that day?"
I didn't say that.
What I want to know is: Which firefighters have ever said that they received orders from controlled demolition workers? Who has ever said, "The word came down to pull operations away from Seven, and it came from [someone who was not a firefighter/first-responder]?
My point is: You're simply pulling things out of your own ass.
"Isn't it possible (indeed probable) that Singh simply got confused as to what it was to which the "fire department" was referring? That's assuming she's being honest in her testimony. I wonder... when, exactly, did she say this, and why was it the first time we'd ever heard such testimony?"
Yeah like YOU would know anything about honesty.
Ms. Singh said that years ago. She's a 9/11 hero. I have no reason to not believe her or the many others who've corroborated her story.
No. By and large, the liars come from the truthdork camp.
".."..I do believe that they brought Building 7 down.".."
Singh's belief doesn't constitute evidence that WTC7 was brought down through the use of CD. Not by the longest shot.
On the other hand, I can post excerpt after excerpt of testimony from firemen who were there on the scene as to the raging fires and damage to the building, and, most importantly, as to the belief that its collapse was imminent.
"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down. That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though."
"Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself..."
"Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."
VIDEO: Speaking out, An interview with Craig Bartmer:
".."..I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did..".."
Bartmer's unqualified opinion flies in the face of the belief expressed by many other experienced firemen who were there as to the extensive damage to WTC7 and their prediction that it was indeed going to collapse. This is why operations were eventually pulled to a safe distance.
"their prediction that it was indeed going to collapse. This is why operations were eventually pulled to a safe distance."
No that was the cover story floated around to back potential witnesses away from the controlled demolition of Building 7. And many FDNY have expressed their belief, both on and off the record, that all three of those World Trade Center buildings were demolished on purpose with explosives.
"No that was the cover story floated around to back potential witnesses away from the controlled demolition of Building 7."
Prove it.
In any event, this is what the firefighters themselves have said. Are you calling them liars, or are you suggesting that they were in on the cover-up?
It seems clear that many of the firefighters were concerned about WTC 7's structural integrity. With the massive amounts of pelting debris from the "gravity collapses" of the Towers and some fires, a collapse of some sort was imminently possible as shown by the actions of the NYFD. Meanwhile, building 7 didn't suffer a "collapse", it's steel core columns were all a severed at the same time and fell stright down once its outer facade began to move.
The way it "collapsed", which Danny Jowenko's encounter with both the video evidence and the blueprints and info about damage and fire clearly proves. To have a demolitions expert look at the entire scenario and say w/o a doubt that it was a demolition is very strong. On the other side you have people with these anti-Occam anti-scientific baroque explanations of why an orange is not an orange. "we didn't look for evidence of demos because we didn't find any evidence for controlled demos."
"On the other side you have people with these anti-Occam anti-scientific baroque explanations of why an orange is not an orange. "we didn't look for evidence of demos because we didn't find any evidence for controlled demos."
Yep not very scientific is it. It's equivalent to saying "The Sun revolves around the Earth from where I'm standing here on Earth - so it must really be circling the Earth! And if you think anything different or want to investigate further, you must be insane!"
Nope, not scientific at all. They won't consider the obvious Occam's Razor route to explain all the physical evidence because the moral and political implications are too heavy for them to deal with. that is what is so disturbing about all this is all those "smart" people that have given into anti-science and anti-reason just because their "theories" are accepted as the dominant myth.
This reminds me of what Noam Chomsky said to me in an email dialogue when I was asking him if he had even considered the physical evidence for CD's or gone to ae911truth and he said that the onus was on the those of us who had "new scientific discoveries" to get a paper into an accepted journal before I could even expect him to look at the evidence.
We didn't discover new scientific principles, we just say OBL didn't stand down the ones we all agree on.
"Danny Jowenko's encounter with both the video evidence and the blueprints and info about damage.."
Jowenko's is but one opinion, and it's not one that been informed by an "encounter" with the physical evidence.
"To have a demolitions expert look at the entire scenario..."
BUT HE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SCENARIO! His opinion is based on an examination of video and material supplied to him BY 9/11 TRUTHERS. He'd also apparently arrived at the table with some misconceptions of his own.
This video is PROOF that they have NOTHING to do with "preventing a future Holocaust."
The very fact that the Simon Wiesenthal Center has an interest in suppressing 9/11 Truth is anecdotal proof that Israel had something to do with it.
planetery 8 months ago
Man this guy is such a robot has no opinion whatsoever on anything other than what he is told by his "Boss".
anewlow23 11 months ago
“Goyim (gentiles) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel"
- Zionist Israeli Sephardic leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef in his weekly Saturday night sermon.
Source: JTA
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
Too bad these two guys have no fucking clue that they were dealing with the ENEMY right there. If they studied the players in 9/11 they would realize that Talmudic Jews created a war between muslims and christians, so they kill each other off.
crackahcrackah 1 year ago 3
@crackahcrackah
you are so right. Notice the people trying to put a stop to any investigation...SPLC, ADL & SIMON WIESENTHAL, all pro Zionist group.
Why would a group having to do with the Holoco$t have any reason to get involved in a 911 discussion?.
GOOGLE: ISRAEL DID 911
thirdeyewise2 1 year ago 3
@thirdeyewise2 HEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHE
wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 1 year ago
Good job, why are Jews so protective to keep the official story intact.
thirdeyewise2 2 years ago 3
en argentina los nazis que refugiaron al siniestro doctor mengule y a hitler con su esposa poseen en la actualidad las empresas multinacionales mas importantes de argentina siguen experimentos humanos digitados desde sus empresas victimas inocentes que ignoran ser ratas de laboratorio de los nazis los descendientes de los nazis deben tenr todos las memorias de estos criminales de guerra pero la esquizofrenia es herditaria hacen experimentos en sus empresas desintegran familias enteras
alfreopascolo96 2 years ago
Jeremy Rothe Kushel-- you are my hero. I am praying for your success.... you are an outstanding ambassador.
clayvessel 3 years ago
Well done WRC much love we are all watchin.
WOOTMIX 3 years ago
the guy on the left actually had a moment of glory there when he got the flow into the conversation. you need to present youself confident, non-desperate and serious with logical arguments that challenge the OCT instead of spewing theories. lets find out this together type of thing. keep improving and keep up the good spirit.
inso99 3 years ago
Cogent.
hampsom 3 years ago
How do you hired debunker explain WTC7? Just for fun? ;)
MustacheVerra 3 years ago
He may be mean,but he's right.The only reimbursement we get is the satisfaction of exposing stupidity.
WAKE UP AND STOP BEING MORONS!!!
dsglop 3 years ago
You're just an other operative assign to attack the truth movement Fox news style. I mean your channel is dedicated to that. It could not be more obvious.
MustacheVerra 3 years ago 2
Just trying to keep faggtos like you away from the children of the internet.
TwoofersHaveNoLife 3 years ago
I know your kind you're dis-info sun of s bitch. ;)
MustacheVerra 3 years ago
MustacheVerra: And you fag for children, I get it.
TwoofersHaveNoLife 3 years ago
Really? That's the best you've got? If you have nothing better to do than accuse truthers of being homosexual pedopheliacs, I shouldn't have wasted these 191 keystrokes on you son of a bitch.
ericn32 2 years ago
Keep up the good work guys!
MustacheVerra 3 years ago
Well, you guys are really barking up the wrong tree here. It's kind of silly. Simon Weisanthal Center exists for one purpose: to defend the horrible actions of some Jewish organizations from any criticism. It's a zionist flank defensive, dressed up as ann organization that claims to fight against persecution. The only persecution they are truly interested in protecting against is persecution of zionists. 9/11 was committed to advance a zionist agenda.
danieleriskay 3 years ago 4
ted has no education and is a liar who abandoned his own family...never has worked and lives off the system
capthdk 3 years ago
Breaking Godwin's Law at the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
That takes balls.
USSManhattan 3 years ago
Good job!
Keep it up!
TABOOVSKNOWLEDGE 3 years ago 7
Check out Peter Lowy and his connections to Rand Corp, Simon W institute, and WTC. Did you know that Lowy was co owner of the WTC with Larry "pull it" Silverstein? Do the math people S 1959 Harmans thought crime bill is no accedent. INVESTIGATE. Open your eyes.
Truthstorm911 3 years ago
With all due respect,because the info not being made of what transpired that day is leading people to hit these panic buttons. It is obvious the man knows what it is butI dont think he is at liberty to say anything untill after the KSM trial.
blueshadow1996 3 years ago
The guy in the lite blue pants is makeing him self look really stuped to the world.
But if your a sheep thane you agree with him.
StMin85 4 years ago 3
Psychologically speaking he is completely closed down and in full denial and defensive mode; if you observe the tone of voice and body language, i.e.; his head cocked to one side, arms tightly crossed the entire time and then when it heats up, he drops into a wide stance.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Peter Lowy. Hmmmm very interesting.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I have to believe that George Bush & neocons are delighted that all the conspiracy theorists are running around chasing after nonexistent explosives, nonexistent missiles, and nonexistent conspiracies instead of raising hell about extraordinary rendition, domestic wiretapping, and other REAL crimes. There's nothing like a good diversion to keep people off your back. The only agenda being served by pushing this disinformation conspiracy garbage is Bush's.
PoetryHound 4 years ago
There is disinformation floating around pockets of the 9-11 truth movement, but that is because the truth of 9-11 being a treasonous false-flag operation is so incendiary, that as a movement, it must be attacked by disinformation. The entire point of the movement is not a disinfo campaign, even if you are not able or willing to face the fact that 9-11 was treason. It must be attacked through disinfo because if attacked outwardly, it's point would be proven. Karl Rove wishes 9-11 truth gone.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 3
not YOU again! geez...
but on this one, you are right, and good point (domestic wiretapping), but explosives, missiles (oh so wrong, yet again).
why you continue to keep your head so firmly in the sand is baffling.
come on dude, open your eyes, open your mind. get angry, and not at those trying to expose your government's full inventory of lies.
canadianroot 4 years ago
poor poetryhound,who, along w simon wiesenthal center,had positioned itself as a primary opponent to 911 free speech,& the characterization of scientist engineers & concerned citizens as terrorists who will join vegeterians,& constitution copy holders as potential terrorists, if fbi`s watchlist is included, this is the world turned upside down.poetryhound is at the heart of this debacle,good jews will have no part of this, unfortunately poetry hound is something else entirely.another agenda
capelipl 4 years ago
Google "Peter Lowy" and you can find how RAND, SWC, and the world trade center property are all connected. Peter Lowy is with RAND and the SWC and he was part owner (Westfield) of the WTC with Larry "pull it" Silverstein. So it becomes clear why RAND and SWC support the Thought Crime bill S. 1959. Check it out and find the truth that Lowy profited from 9/11 and is now involved with making dissent illegal. The truth is plain as day to those who look.
centrino105 4 years ago
Pull it?
Nigro, Please!
/watch?v=ysrkA9Edo-0
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago
Barry Jennings -- WTC survivor. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Was in WTC Building 7 on 9/11.
"Me and Mr. Hess, Corporation Counsel [of New York City], were on the 23th floor [of WTC 7]. I told him we gotta get out of here. We started walking down the stairs. We get to the 8th floor. Big Explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor."
centrino105 4 years ago 2
Thanks for posting this & all the lively comments too. Some of us have taken a while to ask for the truth, some aren't ready yet. Can we defeat the NWO with a computer? Anyone who doesn't think that Israel is involved with 9-11 is naïve, at best. Isn't USA support of Israel, a country that is unable to support the USA, uses USA made cluster bombs on innocent women and children, and puts The USA at odds with most of the the world, a bad idea? In one year Israel broke 248 UN resolutions. Thanks.
mcc11505 4 years ago 5
Amen
usergently 4 years ago 6
I should add that the S.W.C. and related groups care about one thing. -Jews. If you mention the slaughter of other races they become rather annoyed. It is our obligation to focus on THEM and THEIR HOLOCAUST. -Especially when they are called to task for their misdeeds. So no matter what they do to fuck over other people, they can say "what about the holocaust?"
Sounds like a pretty convenient arrangement! Nevertheless, I give the video 5 stars for their courage in fucking with this guy.
USDragoon1833 4 years ago
The guy from Simon Weaselthal obviously wishes he could smack these two.
Here's word of advice to 9/11 Truth People. DO NOT try allying with or kissing the ass of Communists or Zionist Jews. You will get no where fast.
It was the right-wing extremists who have been sounding the alarm against the New World Order for FIFTY YEARS!
You newbies need to get with the fucking program. Commies and Jews like this guy will chew you up and spit you out.
USDragoon1833 4 years ago
Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -- Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the NSA. 20-year USAF career.
"It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics."
centrino105 4 years ago 3
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) -- Retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown. 20-year Marine Corps career.
"Our government has been hijacked by means of a "new Pearl Harbor" and a lot of otherwise good and decent people who are gullible enough to think that the first three steel-framed buildings in history fall down because they have some fires that the fire fighter on the scene said could be knocked down with a couple of hoses."
centrino105 4 years ago 3
Col. James R. Uhl, MD, MC, U.S. Army (ret) -- Retired Army physician. Served in several theaters of operations, from Viet Nam through Iraq. Former Member, Certification in Military Medicine Working Group. 38-year Army career.
"There is a well-organized cover-up of the events of 11 Sep 2001. The 9/11 Commission was a white-washed farce. There is evidence that US Government officials had advance knowledge of and are probably implicated in the events of 9/11."
centrino105 4 years ago 2
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) -- Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.
"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident."
centrino105 4 years ago 2
Former U.S. Air Force pilot Lt. Jeff Dahlstrom
"My research led me to a much more important and timely question: the mystery of what really did happen on 9/11. Everything that seemed real, turned out to be false. The US government and the news media, once again, were lying to the world about the real terrorists and the public murder of 2,972 innocents on 9/11.
centrino105 4 years ago 2
Capt. Russ Wittenberg, USAF -- Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and UA for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown.
"I don't believe it's possible for a so-called terrorist to train on a Cessna, then jump in a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate, lateral navigate, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit by over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's."
centrino105 4 years ago 2
"...Russ Wittenberg.."
A truther who also just "knew" that 9/11 was a false-flag operation FROM DAY ONE... ON THE MORNING OF THE ATTACK... before he'd ever even HEARD of Hani Hanjour.
""I don't believe it's possible for a so-called terrorist..""
A "so-called terrorist"? Hmm.
""..to train on a Cessna, then jump in a 757-767 class cockpit..""
The didn't just "jump in".
h t t p ://tinyurl[dot]com/2yxn98
"..at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time.."
falconApoda 4 years ago
h t t p ://tinyurl[dot]com/2yxn98
"Reality: As I've explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour's flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation's capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757's autopilot.
falconApoda 4 years ago
h t t p ://tinyurl[dot]com/2yxn98
"Striking a stationary object -- even a large one like the Pentagon -- at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon's lawn.
It's true there's only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league."
falconApoda 4 years ago
h t t p ://tinyurl[dot]com/2yxn98
"However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship."
falconApoda 4 years ago
h t t p ://tinyurl[dot]com/2yxn98
"The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes' navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won't be good, but you'll be good enough."
"They'd done their homework and they had what they needed," says a United Airlines pilot..."
falconApoda 4 years ago
Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -- Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
"The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It's impossible."
centrino105 4 years ago 2
80,000 engineers at the American Institute of Engineers have NOT publicly endorsed the Official collapse theory of the WTC. Actually there are no more than 20 engineers or architects I've been able to find world-wide who have publicly supported the Official NIST report.
Focoist911 4 years ago 4
hey people go review all the material at iamthewitnessDOTcom
Listen to Benjamin Freedman 1961 speech.
Focoist911 4 years ago
iamthewitness dot com
whatreallyhappened dot com
infowars dot com
wakeupfromyourslumber dot com
theone23ord 4 years ago
falconApoda: Which jihadi do you think anthraxed Daschle and Leahy and outfoxed or convinced the FBI to let the trail go cold?
Shumonik1 4 years ago 3
engineer Mike Pecoraro was working in 6th sub-basement of the North Tower. After an explosion, he and a co-worker went up to C-level machine shop and saw "There was nothing there but rubble."
"We're talking about a 50-ton hydraulic press-gone!"
Backs up Wille Rodriguez's testimony about explosive events in basements.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 3
Alot of police know. I have been questioned by both Homeland Security and LAPD while doing freeway blogging.
Both asked what we were doing and what my sign said, and after I told them:
"9-11 = inside job
google WTC 7 and false-flag terror"
they both said "Carry on."
the police officer said "good work."
I mean I've also had an LAPD officer ask me whether I took medication after talking to him about 9-11, so it goes both ways. But many know, they have a stomach for the truth.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 3
Many Fire fighters in NY and around the country know the deal. The NY fire fighters have been put under great duress and pressure to stay quiet rather than discuss this.
More than a few fire trucks have honked and/or fire fighters waved at 9-11 truth activists on the street.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 3
Craig Bartmer, former NYPD
how about David Miller, 1st responder Army National Guardsman?
Philip Morelli-North Tower construction worker saw people who had been "Blown to floor" and "the walls hit em in the face" by explosions sub basement 4
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
Each of the "Axis of Good" (US, UK, Israel) have their own part of the interlocking criminal Secret government to deal with.
And it will be better for everybody involved when we all become equal under the Rule of the Law. even the criminals. If they turn themselves in, the people will be more compassionate to them.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
There are more precise facts that point towards the clear Israeli role in the operation.
If you go look at 3 separate events you can trace the outlines of the Zionist Supremacist role in arab-patsy, false-flag terror attacks.
-the fate of the WTC
-the Amerithrax to Daschle and Leahy
-10-10-01 false-flag attempt on Mexican Parliament
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
IN terms of the Odigo messages, what is important is that it shows general foreknowledge by an Israeli. Many people had foreknowledge. The Bush administration had foreknowledge, hell, even the show "The Lone Gunman" exactly predicted the 9-11 coup faction attack with remote-controlled hijacks of planes flown into the Twin Towers.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
"...the Odigo messages, what is important is that it shows general foreknowledge by an Israeli."
No, it does not. The Odigo "warnings" didn't even mention the WTC. In fact, they weren't even "warnings" so much as a general prediction which could have originated from anyone.
Bear in mind that these messages were sent TO Israeli recipients. So, if anything, they reflect the "general foreknowledge" of whoever it is that SENT them.
And, for all we know, that could have been YOU, Shumonik.
falconApoda 4 years ago
From the Haaretz article: "Micha Macover, CEO of the [Odigo], said the two workers.. immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender.".."
So the only reason we even KNOW about these Odigo "warnings" is because the Israelis who RECEIVED them alerted the authorities. And that's the important thing.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Right, I agree. I'm not singling out Israelis about the Odigo messages and general foreknowledge. I'm just saying that when you add that with all the warnings from intelligence agencies including israeli, the threat in Genoa at the G8, the mimetic war games, the "Lone Gunman" WTC false-flag attack episode in the year prrior, the August PDB, the FBI Phoenix memo, you get a clear sense of they are lying when they say "nobody knew"
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
"...when you add [the Odigo messages] with all the warnings from intelligence agencies including israeli, the threat in Genoa at the G8, the mimetic war games, the "Lone Gunman"..."
Zero plus zero still equals zero.
Last *I* checked, anyway.
.
falconApoda 4 years ago
But then you uhave to go deal with the more specific evidence that likely implicates Israeli operatives as I mentioned.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS. Those who research more find out that false flag operations are conducted regularly by governments all over the world against their own people. Knowledge is power. The truth will set you free. Google: Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Attack on U.S.S. Liberty, Reichstag Fire, Sinking of the Maine in Havana harbor, on and on. There are too many false flags to list. Watch Terrorstorm on Google video.
centrino105 4 years ago 2
Good job - keep it up.
cedriccuthbert 4 years ago 4
His argument about 80,000 members of the American Institute of Civil Engineers & Architects and Architects & Engineers only having 200 (now 260) members is one I've heard many times before on reddit and digg.
Interesting argument, disposable propaganda, straight from the MOSSAD play book, delivered in a Chomsky like manner.
The TRUTH isn't a popularity contest, we have the TRUTH about 9/11, MOSSAD front organizations do not.
denialisimpotence 4 years ago 4
But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.
prothink 4 years ago 3
"But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong."
Would you care to put that to the test right here in front the readers of these comments (or, if you prefer, in the comments section of your own video - you'd have to re-instate me, of course)?
We could start with the Odigo "warnings" (i.e., that steaming load of crap you were laying on Sensenbrenner). Let's see if you have the courage to defend your assertions in a forum where you don't have the power to ban when the heat gets turned up.
falconApoda 4 years ago
I ALWAYS have an open door for people to debate me live on a radio show for all to hear. Step up to the plate badass. My email is prothink @ yahooDOTcom
Bring you brass balls and ignorance and prepare to bring your best.
prothink 4 years ago 2
"Step up to the plate badass."
Let's start with an excerpt of that excrement you dumped at Sensenbrenner's feet:
Prothink: "...we had a report out of an Israeli paper Haaretz... Odigo says workers were warned of attack. The instant messenger service Odigo... sent out a message 2 hours previous to the attacks not to go to work that day... you know what the result was? Only one Israeli died who happened to be on the plane, and thousands of them worked in the towers."
Horseshit.
falconApoda 4 years ago
First of all, you weren't reading from Haaretz. You were reading from Alex Jones. Here is an excerpt from the actual Haaretz article:
Haaretz: "Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack."
falconApoda 4 years ago
"Haaretz: "Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages...""
Did you get that part, Bainbridge? Only TWO of the workers received messages. No mention of any warning "not to go to work". You pulled that part out of your own ass.
The workers in question were based in Israel. Odigo had no offices in the WTC, so there were no workers there to "warn".
falconApoda 4 years ago
Prothink: "...thousands of [Israelis] worked in the towers."
Another lie.
Shall I keep going, or have you had enough?
falconApoda 4 years ago
"Shall I keep going, or have you had enough?"
Guess he's had enough.
PROTHINK: LIAR. ASSHOLE. COWARD.
.
falconApoda 4 years ago
* First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.* If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.* If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person or persons.
* If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks
prothink 4 years ago
If the person is a Gentile, you cry, "You're anti-semitic" which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions.
But, if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to other tactics.
prothink 4 years ago 2
This is exactly why I don't WASTE my time responding to this guy. Jack Bernstein once said:
prothink 4 years ago
I have personally banned "falconApoda" for being a Zio-shill and wasting so much of my time responding to his nonsense. You guys might want to do it yourselves. You'll just waste time on this guy and there are a lot more pearls before swine...
Prothink
prothink 4 years ago
Prothink: "I have personally banned "falconApoda" for being a Zio-shill and wasting so much of my time responding to his nonsense."
Near as I can tell, you never did respond to anything I posted.
You're a liar, prothink. You tell lies in your videos wherein you make an ass of yourself in front of public figures who have 10x more integrity in their pinky fingers than possess in your entire body.
You banned me our of fear that others might actually recognize the lies of yours that I point out.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Prothink: "I have personally banned "falconApoda"... You guys might want to do it yourselves."
And isn't interesting how the truther response to challengers of their assertions is to censor and ban such people from their forums and implore others to do the same.
People who protest suppression and claim to be seeking "truth" are themselves suppressing dissent from their midst to give the illusion that everyone agrees with their point of view.
The irony here is beautiful.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Lame censorship! Deleting my posts! Why would you need to censor me if the 'truth" was so iron clad? Eh? BOLLOCKS
GwionX 4 years ago
GwionX,
None of your stupid posts have been deleted. If you include a url in your post YouTube blocks it from going up.
WTC buildings were destroyed by controlled demolitions.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago
I didn't include any URL's... Typical Truther Tactics..
GwionX 4 years ago
keep up the good work. you're right ~ there are millions, and the numbers are growing everyday. this will not go away; until they finally make the move and attempt to "force" us to go away. heh, using force to promote and idea or belief. sounds like what they criminalize in hr1955. irony or hypocrisy?
anthonylilja 4 years ago 3
the post 9-11 era, has cemented us into the post-reason and post-science era. Except those willing to face the facts and speak them to the people are going to break through the stultification of human understanding and freedom of thought.
Shumonik1 4 years ago
Eliminate the fact of the attack and look into the reasons why , Nuffrespect on his website has some realy hard core journalists that followed the money trail,
In Canada the offical goverment owned and operated company called the CBC has released A shocking part series, That not only ties the Bush Administration to the Binladin Family but reaches into the real powers behind that morning,
On that morning my Lebinese boss told me they are going to blame arabs for this,
Cam was right.,
cycimian 4 years ago
How twisted in their purpose has the SWC become. My god now they are serving the interests of the new nazis. Mark my words the neo-cons ARE the new nazis. The SWC has lost it's way.
centrino105 4 years ago 2
Good Job guys!!!!!
Tesselator 4 years ago 5
waste of time.. this guy went and called the SPLC right after your chat.
DennyMclain2008 4 years ago
this was very well done, you stayed calm and managed to actually get some points across. this is a much better aproach than the usual more emotionally charged confrontations that we normally see, those people will often get booted out before even making a good case for what they are saying good work guys. Don't worry about the discouragement from falcon and others, they can't help the fact that they live in a country that doesn't provide means to a solid education and thus a strong mind.
Cody21112 4 years ago 4
Thanks Cody. He let us get some points across. Not everybody does. Their guilt or fear of the truth makes THEM hostile or insulting or run away. We did not go there to confront Simon Wiesenthal Center. We went there to get important points across to one of the leading Jewish organizations that focuses on the consequences of the Nazi Fascist Regime.
wearechangela 4 years ago
It's important that people wake up to the sick situation that has built up around us, and getting to the root of the 9-11 Truth is one of the best and quickest ways to wake people up.
wearechangela 4 years ago
when being asked to take a second look at the evidence a jury under the reasonable doubt is obliged to do this.
The publics the jury and from just the motives behind 911 there is an abundance of evidence that does not support the offical story.. I know i had to sit on a Jury.
cycimian 4 years ago 4
Expose the 9/11 cover up! Abolish the Federal Reserve!
persona19 4 years ago 7
lightbulb went off in that guy's head at the end of the vid
damonsecloro 4 years ago 5
Don't let the lowest common denominator in society (truth deniers) take us all down with them. Stand up and speak up, save your country that has been hijacked!
Investigate 9/11 and stop them from ever doing false flag operations again. Help the sick and dying first responders (Feal Good Foundation).
If you have any honor in you STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH! STAND UP NOW!
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 4
"Investigate 9/11 and stop them from ever doing false flag operations again."
Like the USS Liberty, perhaps (something you've mentioned before)?
News flash: The incident wasn't a "false flag". The attacking boats were marked as Israeli. They signalled offers of assistance about an hour after the ship was taken under fire (with no further attack). The Navy Court found that it was the result of mistaken identity. The ship's CO testified as to his belief that the attack was in error.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Barry Jennings -- WTC survivor. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority. Was in WTC Building 7 on 9/11.
"Me and Mr. Hess, Corporation Counsel [of New York City], were on the 23th floor [of WTC 7]. I told him we gotta get out of here. We started walking down the stairs. We get to the 8th floor. Big Explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor."
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 4
William Rice, PE -- Registered Professional Civil Engineer who worked on structural steel and concrete buildings in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia.
"Even if Newton's Law is ignored, the prevailing theory would have us believe that each of the Twin Towers inexplicably collapsed upon itself crushing all 287 massive columns on each floor while maintaining a free-fall speed as if the 100,000, or more, tons of supporting structural-steel framework underneath didn't exist."
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 2
How unfortunate that the Simon Wiesenthal Center disparages - rather than supports - the groups of people that are working to get accountability for the 9/11 attacks.
ZanneQPublic 4 years ago 3
Rick is a liar, Weitzman never once mentioned freedom of speech in his congressiobal presentation. Not only did weitzman group truthers as terrorists, but he also grouped those who advocate more stringent border controls as terrorists.
freedommv1 4 years ago 3
Spreading fear and paranoia are all the neo-cons have left. Thanks to WeAreChangeLA for helping to expose this fascist bill and it's supporters!
magicmarker44 4 years ago 4
beautiful guys
randomfigment 4 years ago 8
Dissenters are to BushCorp, what the Jews were to (fill in the blank).
sfearsome 4 years ago 4
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ANYONE can sign up on Architects and engineers fro 9/11 truth... MANY people signed up on there as a blatant JOKE.. We laugh at your gulliblity.
GwionX 4 years ago
@ GwionX
Nice try.
Mr. Gage was taken advantage of dishonest creeps like you when he originally set up his website. He was out of town when it happened and he corrected the problem when he found out about it.
SteveM818 4 years ago
Forgive me while I laugh out loud-- LULZ
He never corrected the information. You think there are that many A&E's for 9/11 truth-- you are gullible-- you FAIL -- at faster than freefall speedz.
GwionX 4 years ago
You obviously don't know what you're talking about, GwionX.
Most A&E's have never studied the demolitions of the WTC.
And there are just as many A&E's who've gone on public record saying that they believe the WTC fell from explosives, as there are who've said fire and structural damage caused it AFTER researching both sides of the issue.
SteveM818 4 years ago 2
Where are their peer-reviewed white papers? Why are there no relevant journals calling "foul"-- Why do all the 9/11 conspiracy theories originate from "professional conspiracy theory salesmen?" If WTC collapse was so obvious, WHERE was the outcry from licenced professionals (who could understand the events)7 years ago? Are we to believe Radio DJ's and Beat writers for the American Free Press were the only ones that could cut through the fog? Oh--and YOU of course.. brave troofseeker.
GwionX 4 years ago
Don't be a dumb Sheep, Most of the info does come from Experts such as Scientist, Engineers,Architects,Physicists and more
Do u Know who Morgan Reynolds is? Do U know who Paul Craig Roberts is? I'm sure U don't, U would'nt be making stupid ass comments If U did, As far as Sales No one in the 911 Truth movment sells shit, Do some reading, Stop watching T.V it'll make u Stupider than U already Are
skorture1 4 years ago
Don't get brainwashed with bad info from BIASED sources. Morgan Reynolds- Yup.. Jim Fetzer taught at UofM (Duluth) He also believes in EVERY conspiracy there is. Griffin id a THEOLOGY proffessor, Judy Woods is an Eng, but moonbat crazy.. Gage designs IHOPS..no not MIHOPS but actuall IHOPS and has NEVR designed a structure over two stories. NIST researches are the top StrEng in their field..BAzant, Greening, Zou all have more specific expertise than ANYONE "Twoof" can shove forward.Stupid?Feh!
GwionX 4 years ago
Bazant is the key to NIST and Bazant has been thoroughly debunked by Gordon Ross from scholars for truth and justice stj911 (dot)com
In his excellent paper titled: NIST AND DR. BAZANT - A SIMULTANEOUS FAILURE
Also check out Gordon Ross on YouTube.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 3
EVERY TWOOFER site sells their shit--from t-shirts to spools of dvds (so mindless followers can spread the twoof--at a low, low cost point;) The LooseChange boys are even selling "trilogy box sets" BWAHAHA -Suckahz
Gage and his A&E fer twoof is currently begging for handouts..it is all about duping dumasses and collecting coin--for a cause, of course.. Too bad the cause is so ridiculously flawed that 7 years later the "movement' has devolved into clownish harrasment tactics. Nothing More.
GwionX 4 years ago
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"...the "movement' has devolved into clownish harrasment tactics.."
The "truth" movement is, in fact, dead.
It's animated now to the extent that some hardcore believers have managed to maintain a wire connection from a Tucker telephone around its balls, and then they vigorously crank the handle while the body makes flopping motions.
They then dance around excitedly, declaring the movement more alive than ever... waving their asses in the air and stinking up the room with their farts.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Interesting take-- I notice that Alexa ratings show participation and page views at "Troofer" sites has been declining rapidly--to the point that Barney (the purple dinosaur) is now more popular than these poorly orchestrated conspiracy theories. Seeing as most 'barney fans' cannot access the intratubes due to them being illiterate BABIES-- I feel the numbers are grossly skewed. .0001% of America is active in Twoof these days...
GwionX 4 years ago
Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS. Those who research more find out that false flag operations are conducted regularly by governments all over the world against their own people. Knowledge is power. The truth will set you free. Google: Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Attack on U.S.S. Liberty, Reichstag Fire, Sinking of the Maine in Havana harbor, on and on. There are too many false flags to list. Watch Terrorstorm on Google video.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 4
"Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS."
Those who do the research quickly, you mean. Lazy-minded individuals with egos the size of cathedrals.
"The truth will set you free."
The truth, perhaps.
9/11 "truth", on the other hand, will keep you enslaved... to your own paranoid delusions... to your own over-inflated sense of self-importance. Such is the thing within a certain segment of the population to which 9/11 "truth" is specifically-catered.
falconApoda 4 years ago
GwionX wrote
"Why are there no relevant journals calling "foul""
Why? LOL. Here's what Dr. Frank Greening recently said about that:
"I have a personal e-mail FROM A VERY RESPECTED PROFFESOR OF ENGINEERING at an AMERICAN UNIVERSITY in which he notes that his attempts to publish his research into the collapse of WTC 1 & 2 in US and British journals has been blocked. This means work disputing NIST's findings is nowhere to be found because it is simply being censored by over-cautious editors!"
SteveM818 4 years ago 2
Thanks for doing what every American should. I saw the entire Weitzman testimony, which sandwiched an architects + engineers site questioning 9/11 between terrorist training sites, and while that screen was up, Weitzman said "soon, soon, soon the attack on Manhattan." It's tasteless and libelous -- not at all what the ae911 site is about. Find + watch the testimony, and educate yourself on the propaganda techniques being employed against your right to question the gov't + to have free speech.
betagirl5 4 years ago 9
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What a bunch of fucking kooks.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Once again, your organization is doing wonderfully honorable and brave work. Thank You for all of your efforts.
WindHarps 4 years ago 7
Those who do the research find out very quickly that the official story is BS. Those who research more find out that false flag operations are conducted regularly by governments all over the world against their own people. Knowledge is power. The truth will set you free. Google: Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Attack on U.S.S. Liberty, Reichstag Fire, Sinking of the Maine in Havana harbor, on and on. There are too many false flags to list. Watch Terrorstorm on Google video.
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 6
Very nice work guys.
WTC7WasPulled 4 years ago 6
When asked "You think it fell down because of gravity and fire?"
He responds...
"Whatever, I don't think it was blown up."
That sounds to me alot like he does not even have a basic grasp of the evidence for demolitions and probably ruled it out without even looking at the evidence. I think McCain did something similar by saying Fahrenheit 9/11 was an aweful film without having seen it, didn't he?
Truthstorm911 4 years ago 5
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"That sounds to me alot like he does not even have a basic grasp of the evidence..."
Sounds to me as though he understands it with perfect, crystalline-like clarity.
There doesn't exist a *SHRED* of evidence that WTC7 was "blown up". Such is but another truthkook fantasy.
falconApoda 4 years ago
Why don't you tell us that face-to-face! >;)
teemuruskeepaa 4 years ago 2
You're a LIAR, falcon!
Interview w/ 1st Responder Indira Singh, fwd 10min
tinyurl(DOT)com/2rf5ag
"When I got there we were setting up triage sites very close to the area. The triage site that I was setting up was behind, to the east of Building 7 where Building 7 came down. What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon afternoon, after mid-day on 9/11 we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down.. I do believe that they brought Building 7 down."
SteveM818 4 years ago 5
Continued:
HOST: "Did they actually use the word 'brought down' and who was it that was telling you this?"
INDIRA: "The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word 'we're going to have to bring it down.'"
Excerpt here:
youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=TpdjPnewwDQ
SteveM818 4 years ago 4
".."INDIRA: "The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word 'we're going to have to bring it down.'".."
Since when is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business? Isn't it possible (indeed probable) that Singh simply got confused as to what it was to which the "fire department" was referring?
That's assuming she's being honest in her testimony. I wonder... when, exactly, did she say this, and why was it the first time we'd ever heard such testimony?
falconApoda 4 years ago
falconApoda wrote:
"Since when is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business?"
They're not. The FDNY were just following orders. Controlled demolition workers were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and were the ones most likely passing the information on to the fire fighters, to get people away from the Building, because it was going to be "brought Down" by explosives. Or perhaps Ms. Singh spoke with controlled demolition workers thinking they were FDNY.
SteveM818 4 years ago 2
"Controlled demolition workers were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and were the ones most likely passing the information on to the fire fighters..."
Wild, unsupported speculation.
falconApoda 4 years ago
falconApoda wrote:
"Wild, unsupported speculation"
What, you don't believe that controlled demolition workers were on scene that day? Sorry to break it to you, but it's a fact.
SteveM818 4 years ago 2
"...you don't believe that controlled demolition workers were on scene that day?"
I didn't say that.
What I want to know is: Which firefighters have ever said that they received orders from controlled demolition workers? Who has ever said, "The word came down to pull operations away from Seven, and it came from [someone who was not a firefighter/first-responder]?
My point is: You're simply pulling things out of your own ass.
falconApoda 4 years ago
""Since when is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business?""
"They're not."
CASE CLOSED.
falconApoda 4 years ago
falconApoda wrote:
"Isn't it possible (indeed probable) that Singh simply got confused as to what it was to which the "fire department" was referring? That's assuming she's being honest in her testimony. I wonder... when, exactly, did she say this, and why was it the first time we'd ever heard such testimony?"
Yeah like YOU would know anything about honesty.
Ms. Singh said that years ago. She's a 9/11 hero. I have no reason to not believe her or the many others who've corroborated her story.
SteveM818 4 years ago 2
"You're a LIAR, falcon!"
No. By and large, the liars come from the truthdork camp.
".."..I do believe that they brought Building 7 down.".."
Singh's belief doesn't constitute evidence that WTC7 was brought down through the use of CD. Not by the longest shot.
On the other hand, I can post excerpt after excerpt of testimony from firemen who were there on the scene as to the raging fires and damage to the building, and, most importantly, as to the belief that its collapse was imminent.
falconApoda 4 years ago
LIVE 9/11 CNN Footage of First Responders Near Building 7:
"It's blowin' boy! Keep your eye on that building, it'll be coming down soon."
"The building is about to blow up! Move it back!"
youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=z9CXQY-bZn4
SteveM818 4 years ago 5
First Responder:
"They said 'Hey... you gotta stay behind this line, because they're thinking about taking [Building 7] down.'"
New York Stories: 9/11 First Responders
Forward to 48:14
kpfa(DOT)org/archives/index(DOT)php?arch=16240
SteveM818 4 years ago 5
NYPD Officer Craig Bartmer:
"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down. That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though."
SteveM818 4 years ago 6
Continued:
"Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself..."
SteveM818 4 years ago 6
Continued:
"Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."
VIDEO: Speaking out, An interview with Craig Bartmer:
tinyurl(DOT)com/2nf7j9
SteveM818 4 years ago 5
".."..I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did..".."
Bartmer's unqualified opinion flies in the face of the belief expressed by many other experienced firemen who were there as to the extensive damage to WTC7 and their prediction that it was indeed going to collapse. This is why operations were eventually pulled to a safe distance.
falconApoda 4 years ago
falconApoda wrote:
"their prediction that it was indeed going to collapse. This is why operations were eventually pulled to a safe distance."
No that was the cover story floated around to back potential witnesses away from the controlled demolition of Building 7. And many FDNY have expressed their belief, both on and off the record, that all three of those World Trade Center buildings were demolished on purpose with explosives.
SteveM818 4 years ago
"No that was the cover story floated around to back potential witnesses away from the controlled demolition of Building 7."
Prove it.
In any event, this is what the firefighters themselves have said. Are you calling them liars, or are you suggesting that they were in on the cover-up?
falconApoda 4 years ago
It seems clear that many of the firefighters were concerned about WTC 7's structural integrity. With the massive amounts of pelting debris from the "gravity collapses" of the Towers and some fires, a collapse of some sort was imminently possible as shown by the actions of the NYFD. Meanwhile, building 7 didn't suffer a "collapse", it's steel core columns were all a severed at the same time and fell stright down once its outer facade began to move.
Shumonik1 4 years ago
"It seems clear that many of the firefighters were concerned about WTC 7's structural integrity."
Yes. And, sure enough, it eventually collapsed as anticipated.
So where is the disconnect here?
falconApoda 4 years ago
The way it "collapsed", which Danny Jowenko's encounter with both the video evidence and the blueprints and info about damage and fire clearly proves. To have a demolitions expert look at the entire scenario and say w/o a doubt that it was a demolition is very strong. On the other side you have people with these anti-Occam anti-scientific baroque explanations of why an orange is not an orange. "we didn't look for evidence of demos because we didn't find any evidence for controlled demos."
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
Shumonik1:
"On the other side you have people with these anti-Occam anti-scientific baroque explanations of why an orange is not an orange. "we didn't look for evidence of demos because we didn't find any evidence for controlled demos."
Yep not very scientific is it. It's equivalent to saying "The Sun revolves around the Earth from where I'm standing here on Earth - so it must really be circling the Earth! And if you think anything different or want to investigate further, you must be insane!"
SteveM818 4 years ago
And "you must be a holocaust denier"
And "you must be one of those conspirrrracy theorists"
And "a traitor"
And "a kook"
And on and on and on LOL
SteveM818 4 years ago
Nope, not scientific at all. They won't consider the obvious Occam's Razor route to explain all the physical evidence because the moral and political implications are too heavy for them to deal with. that is what is so disturbing about all this is all those "smart" people that have given into anti-science and anti-reason just because their "theories" are accepted as the dominant myth.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
This reminds me of what Noam Chomsky said to me in an email dialogue when I was asking him if he had even considered the physical evidence for CD's or gone to ae911truth and he said that the onus was on the those of us who had "new scientific discoveries" to get a paper into an accepted journal before I could even expect him to look at the evidence.
We didn't discover new scientific principles, we just say OBL didn't stand down the ones we all agree on.
Shumonik1 4 years ago 2
"This reminds me of what Noam Chomsky said to me..."
And he was right.
falconApoda 4 years ago
"""we didn't look for evidence of demos because we didn't find any evidence for controlled demos.""
Cite, please.
falconApoda 4 years ago
"Danny Jowenko's encounter with both the video evidence and the blueprints and info about damage.."
Jowenko's is but one opinion, and it's not one that been informed by an "encounter" with the physical evidence.
"To have a demolitions expert look at the entire scenario..."
BUT HE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SCENARIO! His opinion is based on an examination of video and material supplied to him BY 9/11 TRUTHERS. He'd also apparently arrived at the table with some misconceptions of his own.
falconApoda 4 years ago