It is not authentic because there is no such thing as Kuniba ha Mugai Ryu. It is Kuniba Ryu or Mugai Ryu. It is also not and never was recognised as a legitimate form of Mugai Ryu by any of the
of the Mugai Ryu soke, current or past. The name Mugai Ryu has been hijacked by Kuniba Ryu practitioners to try and gain some form of legitimacy! Mugai Ryu is a Koryu. Kuniba Ryu is Gendai. They can not be one and the same ....ever!
I live in a small town and there is only one individual teaching this art. He told me I would be awarded a black belt when I mastered this ONE sword Kata. I don't care about belts, and this sounded like a belt factory to me, so I never signed up. Was I correct in my assumption?
It is probably Kuniba Ryu being positioned as Mugai Ryu....which should not be done. Not that I have anything against Kuniba Ryu....it is not Koryu. A Shodan in iai means nothing and is normally awarded with proficiency of the first 5 kata in Mugai Ryu. When you reach Yondan/Godan you might be starting to get the hang of it. I think you have enough information now to answer your own question.
It depends on how the kata before was ending.If you ended with your left leg, you start the next movement with your right one and so on ...until the whole thing is done.
I was more wondering on the purpose for switching feet between each cut. On the draw cut the right is forward then before the next cut there is footwork that changes the forward foot. Hadn't seen it in most other kata and was curious as to a reason other than "because" if there was one.
the kneeling forms in Mugai Ryu are specifically for training. Leg strength, balance, centering, moving from the hips. Switching feet is basically the same as stepping forward, alternating steps, walking or running. I train in the Meishi-ha line of Mugai Ryu under the Suimokai. the forms here are some of the same basic forms, but lots of added stuff, like the chiburi, and many of the cuts are not what is currently being taught.
It is in fact Kuniba-ryu, with little in the way of authentic Mugai-ryu; you can see the Eishin-ryu in the Chiburi on "Shin". Notice the fact that they are even doing a chiburi on a seated kata.
Slightly different style, everyone seems kinda sleepy, I mean it in a very nice way, but the guy with some energy into it is the guy who you start of filming in the centre, wearing the huckuma. Nice vid though x
"..guy who you start of filming in the centre, wearing the huckuma."
Wearing the what? People need to start learing to pronounce Japanese words according to rules of that language as opposed to those of their backwoods english.
It is not authentic because there is no such thing as Kuniba ha Mugai Ryu. It is Kuniba Ryu or Mugai Ryu. It is also not and never was recognised as a legitimate form of Mugai Ryu by any of the
of the Mugai Ryu soke, current or past. The name Mugai Ryu has been hijacked by Kuniba Ryu practitioners to try and gain some form of legitimacy! Mugai Ryu is a Koryu. Kuniba Ryu is Gendai. They can not be one and the same ....ever!
TheDarkReprize in reply to bokim09 (Show the comment) 2 years ago
Chiburi looks so weird in this form of Iaido. I mean if you actually had blood on the blade I would think you would get some on yourself.
RykkerNighteyes 2 years ago 2
yh, hakama looks better :) but i say it hu-koo-ma...sortof lol
Mangafairy 3 years ago
We are in Kempen and Krefeld...Germany
Pierling in reply to Kingjami78 (Show the comment) 4 years ago
I live in a small town and there is only one individual teaching this art. He told me I would be awarded a black belt when I mastered this ONE sword Kata. I don't care about belts, and this sounded like a belt factory to me, so I never signed up. Was I correct in my assumption?
adbello 4 years ago
if it isn´t about the art, it´s about belts.
In our Ryu it is about the art!
Pierling in reply to adbello (Show the comment) 4 years ago
probably
drawdyd in reply to adbello (Show the comment) 4 years ago
This is not authentic Mugai Ryu.
It is probably Kuniba Ryu being positioned as Mugai Ryu....which should not be done. Not that I have anything against Kuniba Ryu....it is not Koryu. A Shodan in iai means nothing and is normally awarded with proficiency of the first 5 kata in Mugai Ryu. When you reach Yondan/Godan you might be starting to get the hang of it. I think you have enough information now to answer your own question.
Munazukushi ;-)
Mugairyuiai in reply to adbello (Show the comment) 4 years ago
what martial art is this?
midevilgrim 4 years ago
This is an aikido dojo with a wide weapon program.What you see are mugai ryu sequences.
Pierling in reply to midevilgrim (Show the comment) 4 years ago
i was taught with a boken first then at the dojo in witch we did aikido as well as iaido.
Templaris in reply to Pierling (Show the comment) 4 years ago
before they start with iaito, they studied at least 3 or 4 years with bokken
Pierling in reply to Templaris (Show the comment) 4 years ago
If you did that, you'd lose a lot of valuable time spent getting a hang of the "true" chiburi noto of authentic Mugairyu.
That and Kenjutsu is less then half of the authentic Mugai-ryu curriculum.
MitsuyoshiJubei in reply to Pierling (Show the comment) 3 years ago
I'm curious as to the idea behind switching feet between each cut.
genei09 4 years ago
It depends on how the kata before was ending.If you ended with your left leg, you start the next movement with your right one and so on ...until the whole thing is done.
Pierling in reply to genei09 (Show the comment) 4 years ago
I was more wondering on the purpose for switching feet between each cut. On the draw cut the right is forward then before the next cut there is footwork that changes the forward foot. Hadn't seen it in most other kata and was curious as to a reason other than "because" if there was one.
genei09 in reply to Pierling (Show the comment) 4 years ago
the kneeling forms in Mugai Ryu are specifically for training. Leg strength, balance, centering, moving from the hips. Switching feet is basically the same as stepping forward, alternating steps, walking or running. I train in the Meishi-ha line of Mugai Ryu under the Suimokai. the forms here are some of the same basic forms, but lots of added stuff, like the chiburi, and many of the cuts are not what is currently being taught.
drawdyd in reply to genei09 (Show the comment) 4 years ago
Ah, thank you. That's the kind of answer I was looking for.
genei09 in reply to drawdyd (Show the comment) 4 years ago
It is in fact Kuniba-ryu, with little in the way of authentic Mugai-ryu; you can see the Eishin-ryu in the Chiburi on "Shin". Notice the fact that they are even doing a chiburi on a seated kata.
MitsuyoshiJubei in reply to drawdyd (Show the comment) 3 years ago
Who is this teacher? Is this Al Church's group?
JAMJTX 4 years ago
The teacher´s name is Bruno Pierling.We are a Ryu and don´t belong to any organisation.
Pierling in reply to JAMJTX (Show the comment) 4 years ago
Slightly different style, everyone seems kinda sleepy, I mean it in a very nice way, but the guy with some energy into it is the guy who you start of filming in the centre, wearing the huckuma. Nice vid though x
Mangafairy 4 years ago
"..guy who you start of filming in the centre, wearing the huckuma."
Wearing the what? People need to start learing to pronounce Japanese words according to rules of that language as opposed to those of their backwoods english.
Proton1 in reply to Mangafairy (Show the comment) 4 years ago
That's how it's meant to be spelt, that or hakama, how would you say it?
Mangafairy in reply to Proton1 (Show the comment) 3 years ago
Apreciate that people dont always say words how they say them, I was guessing for the Romaji equivilent.
Mangafairy in reply to Proton1 (Show the comment) 3 years ago
haha, 'spell them'
Mangafairy in reply to Mangafairy (Show the comment) 3 years ago