I've heard of this being done before, but... honestly, risking the very much needed tow plane to attempt a one in a billion failure seems a bit over the top... Does anyone know if this has ever occured? (not a purpose practice)
Don't know, but it it was an interesting exercise in learning how to control the glider while descending under tow--and not overrunning the tug. You don't normally get practice with that.
it's standard training for towing here in austria.. advantage is that you can get the required number of tow-starts in a relatively short time, and also learn how to descent in tow.
also i wittnesed a release failure once when tow landing was nescesary. i persoanlly would always chose to land in tow, rather than to land with 60m rope on my glider.. imagine what happens if the rope gets stuck on a runway light or the like.. pilots should avoid just any risk they possibly could avoid ,-)
I spose it's good to practice but the chances of this particular failure happening are pretty slim. I'd go with breaking the weak link on the rope personally. Think about it your nice and high to start, if you don't manage to break it first time you can try again and if you get in any trouble trying it will break anyway!
I was allways taught in the event that neither aircraft can release...just break the rope. Very simple;pick up a little speed behind the towplane, then make a hard right turn. If the rope you are using is of the right strength, it should break when you need it to.
Nicely done. I've thought about this, but we never practice it here in Sweden, since it would involve at least two independent mechanisms failing, and is thus pretty unlikely. Still, can't hurt.
This isn't something we ever practice here in the UK. If I ever find myself in the USA again I'll have to have a go at this. I believe that they do it in Australia too? Mind you, most of our airfields are probably too short and you'd end up in a ditch.
Well, here in Germany I don´t know anybody who haven´t done this before. It is a regular part of your practical training while getting your pilot license....
By the way, for becoming a pilots instructor I´ve done 15 touch-and-goes with a glider in one flight...
was this a test for if the tow would not release from teh glider and plane? wen i went for my gliders licecne...i was taught that if u cant release.....wen on final approach go in2 high tow then once in high tow let the plane release its tow line....then land whist the tow line is Under the glider (so it doesnt smash ur canopy.) however....that was still COOL!
I estimate that we used about 1400 feet for the full-stop.
FYI: Standard procedure here is to cut the rope from the towplane if normal release fails. The landing-under-tow exercise came about after a discussion about what would happen if the mechanism to cut the rope failed too.
I've heard that from everyone I've told about the exercise. :-)
I felt it looked harder to do than it actually was.
One note from my experience: particularly behind the Pawnee, you really need to make sure you don't drag his tail down when he gets into ground effect, and to follow him back up if he floats away from the runway.
I've heard of this being done before, but... honestly, risking the very much needed tow plane to attempt a one in a billion failure seems a bit over the top... Does anyone know if this has ever occured? (not a purpose practice)
Strftw 2 years ago
Don't know, but it it was an interesting exercise in learning how to control the glider while descending under tow--and not overrunning the tug. You don't normally get practice with that.
kurtlimejello 2 years ago
wow im SOOO SCARED OF UNDER TOWS THERES PEOPLE THAT DIED FROM UNDER TOWS
webkinzgirlzpower 2 years ago
it's standard training for towing here in austria.. advantage is that you can get the required number of tow-starts in a relatively short time, and also learn how to descent in tow.
also i wittnesed a release failure once when tow landing was nescesary. i persoanlly would always chose to land in tow, rather than to land with 60m rope on my glider.. imagine what happens if the rope gets stuck on a runway light or the like.. pilots should avoid just any risk they possibly could avoid ,-)
truxibk 2 years ago
superbe, rien a dire
0565zephirn 3 years ago
I spose it's good to practice but the chances of this particular failure happening are pretty slim. I'd go with breaking the weak link on the rope personally. Think about it your nice and high to start, if you don't manage to break it first time you can try again and if you get in any trouble trying it will break anyway!
hadesbearer 4 years ago
I was allways taught in the event that neither aircraft can release...just break the rope. Very simple;pick up a little speed behind the towplane, then make a hard right turn. If the rope you are using is of the right strength, it should break when you need it to.
POOPCABOB 4 years ago
Nicely done. I've thought about this, but we never practice it here in Sweden, since it would involve at least two independent mechanisms failing, and is thus pretty unlikely. Still, can't hurt.
Rickenbacker69 4 years ago
This isn't something we ever practice here in the UK. If I ever find myself in the USA again I'll have to have a go at this. I believe that they do it in Australia too? Mind you, most of our airfields are probably too short and you'd end up in a ditch.
keefer1234 4 years ago
Well, here in Germany I don´t know anybody who haven´t done this before. It is a regular part of your practical training while getting your pilot license....
By the way, for becoming a pilots instructor I´ve done 15 touch-and-goes with a glider in one flight...
hubhubhurra 4 years ago
was this a test for if the tow would not release from teh glider and plane? wen i went for my gliders licecne...i was taught that if u cant release.....wen on final approach go in2 high tow then once in high tow let the plane release its tow line....then land whist the tow line is Under the glider (so it doesnt smash ur canopy.) however....that was still COOL!
evangelionbh 4 years ago
Nice! Our procedures is to cut the rope from the twoplane, if the normal release fails. How long runway did you use to stop?
gogge 5 years ago
I estimate that we used about 1400 feet for the full-stop.
FYI: Standard procedure here is to cut the rope from the towplane if normal release fails. The landing-under-tow exercise came about after a discussion about what would happen if the mechanism to cut the rope failed too.
kurtlimejello 5 years ago
As a Tow Pilot & Glider pilot, this was the First time I've ever actually seen this done - Good Job guys and thanks for posting!!
localhangar 5 years ago
I've heard that from everyone I've told about the exercise. :-)
I felt it looked harder to do than it actually was.
One note from my experience: particularly behind the Pawnee, you really need to make sure you don't drag his tail down when he gets into ground effect, and to follow him back up if he floats away from the runway.
kurtlimejello 5 years ago