When you cut an indian his hair, he just look like any mexican, peruvian or bolivian. That´s why our land was taken we have never been united. Indigenous from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, WE ARE ALL THE SAME!
The building at 8:00 and the interior shots are filmed at Heritage Park in Calgary, Alberta. I worked there last summer. Sorry, I know it's random. It was just kind of cool to see Calgary turned into Washington DC :)
@jitkasuarez Schweig, who was 25 when he did Uncas in Mohicans, has also been in Into the West miniseries as Sitting Bull, Ron Howard's film The Missing as the bad medicine man, played Pike in Big Eden and done numerous native American roles in the US and Canada.....if all of that helps any!
Revenge is the only word, 'that' does not stand in military terms, as a military action, therefore; when a military unit commits revenge, there 'is' no honor. Revenge is the only word you could put on this stupidity of killing old women, men and children. What honor is there in such an action? Therefore, rescind the Medals of Honor for the Wounded Knee Massacre (battle, in military terms).
Read the epic novel "Rescue at Pine Ridge", 5 stars Amazon Int., the story of the revenge and redemption.
@Cliner98 Wow. There was definitely some of that then as there is now, but what I admired the most from this was watching the attempts of hardworking people like Henry Dawes and Charles Eastman try to come up with a compromise between Native Americans and the government. How many governments worked that hard for indigenous peoples? I can think of many instances where those people were forced to assimilate or were eradicated, case closed.
@evalex71 If you have not read the book, do so. Native americans of the west were given two choices. Roll over like dogs and live in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, so nicely referred to as "reservations", or fight for their way of life and in doing so be slaughtered like the buffalo in the name of "manifest destiny". What exactly was there to compromise? This was their country and we stole it from them, case closed. I for one admire Black Kettle, Mangas Colorado, Sitting Bull, etc. etc.
@ParkerandLongbaugh Too often, the Native American way of life is romanticized, especially 130 or so years removed from the time period. I have a great deal of respect for them, and wish their culture were still preserved intact somewhere, and that both whites and natives could live side by side. But it was not to be. The natives that warred against each other for millenia now faced a new enemy, who unfortunately had superior firepower. I admire those who tried to compromise both ways . . .
@evalex71 It was not only superior firepower but also the constant breaking of treaties, the numerous lies and the mean ways to get their hands on the lands by killing all the buffalo's to deprive the Natives from food and deliberately giving blankets infected with smallpox to force them to surrender. Native Americans never broke treaties, never lied when they had made peace with another tribe. This was white man's way not theirs.
@ParkerandLongbaugh Also, I plan on reading the book, but not necessarily to learn anything new, maybe gain new perspectives on the major players in this time period (Sitting Bull, Red Cloud, Henry Dawes, etc.) . . .
@evalex71 I can recommend the book because it tells the sad truth of many tribes even those who had peace and a treatie with the whites like the Poncas and Nez Perce. They were told, with no explanation, to go to a reservation. When leaving the Nez Perce land locals started to steal the horses from their herd and Chief Joseph called on his right as owner of the horses which was met with bullets. He fired back and escaped. This led to 1 of the greatest and unjust Indian hunt in this period.
@evalex71 First of all... I respect and take your perspective to heart. And not to pile on, but it boils down to genocide. The Native Americans didn't initiate or want war. Straight up, Hitler had nothing on the United States of the mid to late 19th century. But we could never teach our children the raw, uncut, albeit REAL history of the United States. As arafel said, most Indians bent over backwards trying to live alongside the whites through treaties and compromise
@evalex71 (see Black Kettle who met his end shot in the back). I quote from US army general George Crook, who worked extensively fighting, and then assisting the Apache... "It is too often the case that border newspapers disseminate all sorts of exaggerations and falsehoods about the Indians, which are copied in papers of high character and wide circulation, in other parts of the country, while the Indians' side of the case is rarely ever heard. In this way the people at large get false ideas
@evalex71 with reference to the matter. Then when the outbreak does come, public attention is turned to the Indians, their crimes and atrocities are alone condemned, while the persons whose injustice has driven them to this course escape scot-free and are the loudest in their denunciations. No one knows this fact better than the Indian, therefore he is excusable in seeing no justice in a government which only punishes him, while it allows the white man to plunder him as he pleases."
14 years after the Little Big Horn, the 7th Cavalry was entrapped in a box canyon, and if it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry, there would have been a second massacre of the 7th Cav.
The Buffalo Soldiers, 9th Cavalry was rewarded with Presidential Parade Escort and Guard Duties for accomplishments, furthermore; the 9th Cav. received as many citations as most of the white cavs.
Read the epic novel, "Rescue at Pine Ridge", 5 stars Amazon, and Barnes & Noble.
@sproutingman He was angry that they had tried to leave, so he killed their horse as an expression of his anger. (The horse would have been a great part of their livlihood.)
The only truly honest creatures in this country are the animals; If they like you, you know it right away; if they don't, they eat you. No lies, falsehoods or bs.
most Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemelans etc. are Natives from the Americas, from the Aztec, Mexica, Mayan, Inca, Olmec nations (and many others of course). That is the reason for the similarities. Of course every culture has its distinctions as well.
most Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemelans etc. are Natives from the Americas, from the Aztec, Mexica, Mayan, Inca, Olmec nations (and many others of course). That is the reason for the similarities. Of course every culture has its distinctions as well.
@KYRAN141 most Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemelans etc. are Natives from the Americas, from the Aztec, Mexica, Mayan, Inca, Olmec nations (and many others of course). That is the reason for the similarities. Of course every culture has its distinctions as well.
Why was the character with the sick child trying to leave Canada? I understand that his daughter was sick, but would going back really help? (Sorry if the question sounds dumb, but I'm curious).
@thelongwayhome: Dakota weather was less harsh than in Canada. Getting back to the familiar was thought healing. Hope of going back home. All of these things.......maybe.
As I have said, the movie provokes strong passions in all of us. It is wrong to starkly judge the poeople of the late nineteenth century by the standards of today. Understandable, but wrong. I grew up believing that Sitting Bull was a villain. This movie makes Miles (and the white establishment) into villains. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle. We all have much to answer for and we cannot change the past, but we can choose brotherhood for the future.
@1950sRockabilly yeah well a lot of people don't care for subtitles and prefer to be able to hear and understand, its just how they chose to do it, its easier for the actors too who don't all know the language and who are not all Sioux themselves
@blackmobbjtg I would LOVE to look that up! Please tell me where exactly you found that horse sh...I mean, information. THIS I have to see for myself!
@0manoscar Go a head and Google it. It took the Europeans a year and an half to get over to the America when they got here they were dieing for lack of vitamin C when the Native Americans took them in and show y'all how to cure yourself how to plant food and how to survive and what did the Europeans do in return raped' rob' and murder them?
@blackmobbjtg I'm sorry, but your extremely poor spelling and grammar are making it difficult for me to understand what you are writing. If you would, tell me what I should type into the Google search box in order to reach the information you are referencing.
@0manoscar Extremely poor spelling and grammar Wow! But any way go to Google and type in Native Americans and Thanksgiving you might learn something that you haven't learn before.
One thing most fail to mention is that we are all human beings. We all feel the same thing, we all have emotions, etc. All people world wide are human beings. Lets start with that.
Please don't stereotype the First Nations people the other way. It's fashionably New Age to espouse some traditional NA beliefs. But First Nations people AS THEY ARE TODAY differ widely in their beliefs. I think it's really imporatant to see them as individuals all having assimilated "white" culture in various ways. They've changed. This is not 1870.
The Teacher woman shows perfectly how the whites wree yust awful facist people..and these evil FACIST,hypocritis are still here today cause they didnt teach their young anything but lies. A good reason still to NOT TRUST shoolong nowadays..yes even nowadays..they are lying and convincing/opressing their laws upon us.RESIST!!!!!!!!!!
Wow...This movie kind of makes me dislike the whites and the indians..They're both in compassionate and the Indians arn't as peaceful towards one another or nature in this movie as I'd imagine from all their "teachings." They act like white men amongst one another...Taints my image abit:/ Though this is a hollywood movie none the less..
Every group of peoples think that they are the best. Some have the absolute arrogance & are evil enough to act upon it, almost always scapegoating a weaker minority.
I don't believe sitting bull (Tatanka Iyotake) was really as brutal as he is in this movie, especially to his own people. He was a very peaceful man and only acted as a warrior during wartimes, he was not as violent as this movie portrays him to be. In fact Tatanka became "civilized by the near the end of his life but was then murdered by them, along with his adoptive son.
@KheMJoH ; the book is much worse and really sad to read. Made me feel depressed and angry. It tells the demise and imprisonment on reservations of all well known Native tribes and the means used to conquer them like deliberately spreading blankets with smallpox and killing the buffalo's to deprive the natives from their food. That is a truth that isn't told in historybooks. Instead, cold blooded murderers like Columbus, Cortez and Custer are depicted as heroes against those 'savage heathens'.
@CelticWarrior1971 ; Yes, lol, fuck Custer. I really don´t understand why some Americans see him as hero while he was nothing more but a racist murderer. It is known he hated Native Americans and saw them as heathen savages who needed to be wiped of a land that was full of resources. He really believed that it was the white man´s, by God given, right to claim the land and he did not hesitate to kill children, elderly people and women while they were unarmed and on foot or had a white flag.
@arafel1964 I would not use that terminology (I think we can do better than "F*** Custer") But it is surely a mistake to view him as a hero. The whole "battle" was a stupid blunder and there was nothing really victorious or heroic about it by any stretch. I mourn the brutal loss of life all the way around.
The fact of course remains that the whites were the invaders and the greater blame must fall to them as far as the whole subjugation of 'America' is concerned.
@ShawDAMAN; thanks for your comment. You are right, I should not use the F..word. Normally I´m a very friendly and peacefull person, it´s just that I know a lot of the sad fate of Native Americans, the so called boarding schools and the secret forced sterilisations of the women. Reading the book ´Bury my heart at Wounded Knee made me sad and angry. And the extinction of buffalos was meant to deprive the natives from their food as a way to conquer them
@arafel1964 Yes I understand your feelings . ;-) Are you of Native heritage yourself? I am not, but I have always had an interest in Native culture and history (history in general, really) and it is indeed an epic tragedy and blot on this nations past AND present, what was done to the Native peoples. And the skewed, watered down way in which the early history of the U.S. and it's leaders, military and otherwise, is usually presented, borders on ridiculous.
.. Of course the Natives had their conflicts and their bad sorts like any nations do but I find that generally their basic beliefs and values were/are excellent, worthy of imitation, and just plain interesting and appealing. It boggles the mind to consider how much was lost. But; there is still plenty to learn and plenty of Native Americans around if you look for them. I know 3 or 4 myself and I plan on talking to them about some things. ^_^
@ShawDAMAN; more and more people turn away from church and materialistic western society. Many people look for Native American animism or buddhism for guidance, try to live a natural live as much as possible, using biological food, recycling things and in harmony with nature. Apparently these life philosophies have something to offer which our modern world lacks. Lucky you, to know some natives! Especially if you are able to speak with an elder. I myself had some talks with a Cree shaman.
@ShawDAMAN; I am from Moorish ancestry. The Moors were animists just like the Native Americans and the Aborigines with respect for nature and all other living beings. The Islam forcefully conquered us and forbid our rituals and culture though some still practice them in secret. Our women who were equal to men are now treated as inferior to men. maybe that´s why I want the remaining animist cultures to survive.
@ShawDAMAN ; In historybooks on schools we all learn about the victorious conquest of America and it´s time the truth is told, that blankets with smallpox were handed out to make the natives sick, that alcohol was used to make them addicted and that women and children were killed even when standing under a white flag.That sort of facts only a very few historybooks tell. And that today natives belong to the poorests groups living in hopeless conditions on their reservations.
@Cliner98 This is nothing really compared to some other thing done to natives! I recomend you read "The rediscovery of North America", "The deverstation of the Indies" and "American Holocaust" all written by eye-witnesses- europeans who came with the conquerors! It's basicly historical docs, whi i couldn't find in the book stores , only online...unfortunatly!
@alendarzhana@alendarzhana ; thanks for your comment and the docu you mentioned I'll look for it. Many people know from the Jewish Holocaust but not about the fact that the genoice of nates was far more worse. Only 800.000 from the 60 MILLION were alive after ww2. And now they belong to the most poorest and discriminated groups of America while the government and big companies make huge profits from resources from their stolen land without paying a part to the Natives.
The purpose behind Sitting Bull killing the horse was to send a message. That man had had that horse since he was a boy. It told the people that it was better to freeze in Canada and die free than to be hunted by the U.S..... It's the same reason he whipped the boys who stole crow horses, it was to send a message.
The food rationing that they have now (food banks) in the US is electronic. In order for people to get food what is denotations to the poor. People now have to show ID so the government keeps track on what people take.
When you cut an indian his hair, he just look like any mexican, peruvian or bolivian. That´s why our land was taken we have never been united. Indigenous from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, WE ARE ALL THE SAME!
morocatl 2 weeks ago
IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE HARD - TINO RANGATIRATANGA HARD
longcloudable 1 month ago
The building at 8:00 and the interior shots are filmed at Heritage Park in Calgary, Alberta. I worked there last summer. Sorry, I know it's random. It was just kind of cool to see Calgary turned into Washington DC :)
canadarox14 1 month ago
You white people the damn devil and I'm glad when the Lord gets back we're gonna enslave you damn crackers.
GMSdiligent 1 month ago in playlist Natives
@GMSdiligent You should get the Lord's permission first :P
DestroyerOfSense000 1 month ago
@jitkasuarez I believe his name is Eric Schweig.
spiritseeker17 3 months ago
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Tamsyn12003 3 months ago
@arafel1964 hey, thx. Yeah, I found out his name: Eric Schweig-- sorry if I've spelled it wrong.
jitkasuarez 3 months ago
@jitkasuarez Schweig, who was 25 when he did Uncas in Mohicans, has also been in Into the West miniseries as Sitting Bull, Ron Howard's film The Missing as the bad medicine man, played Pike in Big Eden and done numerous native American roles in the US and Canada.....if all of that helps any!
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Revenge is the only word, 'that' does not stand in military terms, as a military action, therefore; when a military unit commits revenge, there 'is' no honor. Revenge is the only word you could put on this stupidity of killing old women, men and children. What honor is there in such an action? Therefore, rescind the Medals of Honor for the Wounded Knee Massacre (battle, in military terms).
Read the epic novel "Rescue at Pine Ridge", 5 stars Amazon Int., the story of the revenge and redemption.
SpecialEffects9 3 months ago
@Cliner98 Wow. There was definitely some of that then as there is now, but what I admired the most from this was watching the attempts of hardworking people like Henry Dawes and Charles Eastman try to come up with a compromise between Native Americans and the government. How many governments worked that hard for indigenous peoples? I can think of many instances where those people were forced to assimilate or were eradicated, case closed.
evalex71 4 months ago
@evalex71 If you have not read the book, do so. Native americans of the west were given two choices. Roll over like dogs and live in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, so nicely referred to as "reservations", or fight for their way of life and in doing so be slaughtered like the buffalo in the name of "manifest destiny". What exactly was there to compromise? This was their country and we stole it from them, case closed. I for one admire Black Kettle, Mangas Colorado, Sitting Bull, etc. etc.
ParkerandLongbaugh 4 months ago
@ParkerandLongbaugh Too often, the Native American way of life is romanticized, especially 130 or so years removed from the time period. I have a great deal of respect for them, and wish their culture were still preserved intact somewhere, and that both whites and natives could live side by side. But it was not to be. The natives that warred against each other for millenia now faced a new enemy, who unfortunately had superior firepower. I admire those who tried to compromise both ways . . .
evalex71 3 months ago
@evalex71 It was not only superior firepower but also the constant breaking of treaties, the numerous lies and the mean ways to get their hands on the lands by killing all the buffalo's to deprive the Natives from food and deliberately giving blankets infected with smallpox to force them to surrender. Native Americans never broke treaties, never lied when they had made peace with another tribe. This was white man's way not theirs.
arafel1964 3 months ago
@ParkerandLongbaugh Also, I plan on reading the book, but not necessarily to learn anything new, maybe gain new perspectives on the major players in this time period (Sitting Bull, Red Cloud, Henry Dawes, etc.) . . .
evalex71 3 months ago
@evalex71 I can recommend the book because it tells the sad truth of many tribes even those who had peace and a treatie with the whites like the Poncas and Nez Perce. They were told, with no explanation, to go to a reservation. When leaving the Nez Perce land locals started to steal the horses from their herd and Chief Joseph called on his right as owner of the horses which was met with bullets. He fired back and escaped. This led to 1 of the greatest and unjust Indian hunt in this period.
arafel1964 3 months ago
@evalex71 First of all... I respect and take your perspective to heart. And not to pile on, but it boils down to genocide. The Native Americans didn't initiate or want war. Straight up, Hitler had nothing on the United States of the mid to late 19th century. But we could never teach our children the raw, uncut, albeit REAL history of the United States. As arafel said, most Indians bent over backwards trying to live alongside the whites through treaties and compromise
ParkerandLongbaugh 3 months ago
@evalex71 (see Black Kettle who met his end shot in the back). I quote from US army general George Crook, who worked extensively fighting, and then assisting the Apache... "It is too often the case that border newspapers disseminate all sorts of exaggerations and falsehoods about the Indians, which are copied in papers of high character and wide circulation, in other parts of the country, while the Indians' side of the case is rarely ever heard. In this way the people at large get false ideas
ParkerandLongbaugh 3 months ago
@evalex71 with reference to the matter. Then when the outbreak does come, public attention is turned to the Indians, their crimes and atrocities are alone condemned, while the persons whose injustice has driven them to this course escape scot-free and are the loudest in their denunciations. No one knows this fact better than the Indian, therefore he is excusable in seeing no justice in a government which only punishes him, while it allows the white man to plunder him as he pleases."
ParkerandLongbaugh 3 months ago
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14 years after the Little Big Horn, the 7th Cavalry was entrapped in a box canyon, and if it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry, there would have been a second massacre of the 7th Cav.
The Buffalo Soldiers, 9th Cavalry was rewarded with Presidential Parade Escort and Guard Duties for accomplishments, furthermore; the 9th Cav. received as many citations as most of the white cavs.
Read the epic novel, "Rescue at Pine Ridge", 5 stars Amazon, and Barnes & Noble.
SpecialEffects9 6 months ago
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SpecialEffects9 6 months ago
why did he shoot the horse?
sproutingman 7 months ago
@sproutingman He was angry that they had tried to leave, so he killed their horse as an expression of his anger. (The horse would have been a great part of their livlihood.)
mahogonywhisper 6 months ago
@Cliner98 This poxy culture is worldwide now. We all need to wake up.
sproutingman 7 months ago
The only truly honest creatures in this country are the animals; If they like you, you know it right away; if they don't, they eat you. No lies, falsehoods or bs.
skudaarkaat1 8 months ago 10
@skudaarkaat1 Our processes of lies and rationalization are much more savage.
DestroyerOfSense000 1 month ago
@Cliner98 Well try not to spit on your computer otherwise you won't be able to watch this film....
MattyTheMole 9 months ago
most Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemelans etc. are Natives from the Americas, from the Aztec, Mexica, Mayan, Inca, Olmec nations (and many others of course). That is the reason for the similarities. Of course every culture has its distinctions as well.
ednaidamorales 11 months ago 4
most Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemelans etc. are Natives from the Americas, from the Aztec, Mexica, Mayan, Inca, Olmec nations (and many others of course). That is the reason for the similarities. Of course every culture has its distinctions as well.
ednaidamorales 11 months ago
The Native Americans look like Mexicans or Ecuadorians.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
@98bigbutt no we do not you blind white
KYRAN141 1 year ago
@KYRAN141,Yes you do.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
@98bigbutt no we dont u blind ass white
KYRAN141 1 year ago
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@KYRAN141 most Mexicans, Ecuadorians, Guatemelans etc. are Natives from the Americas, from the Aztec, Mexica, Mayan, Inca, Olmec nations (and many others of course). That is the reason for the similarities. Of course every culture has its distinctions as well.
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@98bigbutt I think you'll find that the Native Americans look like Native Americans.
TheBrautigans 7 months ago
For all who deeply take in this film - "into the west" is a must see.
rockynanach 1 year ago
Why was the character with the sick child trying to leave Canada? I understand that his daughter was sick, but would going back really help? (Sorry if the question sounds dumb, but I'm curious).
thelongwayhome 1 year ago
@thelongwayhome: Dakota weather was less harsh than in Canada. Getting back to the familiar was thought healing. Hope of going back home. All of these things.......maybe.
sonice2behere 1 year ago 2
@sonice2behere That makes sense, thanks for the answer. I actually saw later on in the film how harsh the winters get in Canada.
thelongwayhome 1 year ago
As I have said, the movie provokes strong passions in all of us. It is wrong to starkly judge the poeople of the late nineteenth century by the standards of today. Understandable, but wrong. I grew up believing that Sitting Bull was a villain. This movie makes Miles (and the white establishment) into villains. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle. We all have much to answer for and we cannot change the past, but we can choose brotherhood for the future.
Boelcke1916 1 year ago 4
lol we should have thanksgiving over Geronimo's grave
truesivad 1 year ago
:'-(
silentobservor 1 year ago
Why does the indians speak english with each other ????
1950sRockabilly 1 year ago
@1950sRockabilly cause not everyone is a Sioux and those who aren't kinda want to understand what they're saying
littlemizbecca 1 year ago
@littlemizbecca ya but its not so hard to just put english subtitale like they did in the movie Dances with wolves and in the serie Into the west.
1950sRockabilly 1 year ago
@1950sRockabilly yeah well a lot of people don't care for subtitles and prefer to be able to hear and understand, its just how they chose to do it, its easier for the actors too who don't all know the language and who are not all Sioux themselves
littlemizbecca 1 year ago
Damn! He shot the horse!! What an ignorant, backward savage! Good thing we civilised them!
0manoscar 1 year ago
@0manoscar Thats incorrect the Native Americans Indians civilized y'all so called white people when y'all came over don;t believe me look it up?
blackmobbjtg 1 year ago
@blackmobbjtg I would LOVE to look that up! Please tell me where exactly you found that horse sh...I mean, information. THIS I have to see for myself!
0manoscar 1 year ago
@0manoscar Go a head and Google it. It took the Europeans a year and an half to get over to the America when they got here they were dieing for lack of vitamin C when the Native Americans took them in and show y'all how to cure yourself how to plant food and how to survive and what did the Europeans do in return raped' rob' and murder them?
blackmobbjtg 1 year ago
@blackmobbjtg I'm sorry, but your extremely poor spelling and grammar are making it difficult for me to understand what you are writing. If you would, tell me what I should type into the Google search box in order to reach the information you are referencing.
0manoscar 1 year ago
@0manoscar Extremely poor spelling and grammar Wow! But any way go to Google and type in Native Americans and Thanksgiving you might learn something that you haven't learn before.
blackmobbjtg 1 year ago
@blackmobbjtg As in "Europeans" i hope you mean Americans and the British
Seldanas 1 year ago
One thing most fail to mention is that we are all human beings. We all feel the same thing, we all have emotions, etc. All people world wide are human beings. Lets start with that.
beerrunner81 1 year ago
my grandfather was part of the Crow nation
Doriamos 1 year ago
@Doriamos Yay!
0manoscar 1 year ago
Please don't stereotype the First Nations people the other way. It's fashionably New Age to espouse some traditional NA beliefs. But First Nations people AS THEY ARE TODAY differ widely in their beliefs. I think it's really imporatant to see them as individuals all having assimilated "white" culture in various ways. They've changed. This is not 1870.
3orchidsrising 1 year ago
Where is our language, our spirit in this story. Even Kevin Costner made a thoughtful attempt to capture our realities in "Dances with Wolves."
Again, I do not mean to cause anyone to feel badly, I am simply saying it is not difficult to tell that this was not written by an Indian.
singingSydneySherry 1 year ago
The Teacher woman shows perfectly how the whites wree yust awful facist people..and these evil FACIST,hypocritis are still here today cause they didnt teach their young anything but lies. A good reason still to NOT TRUST shoolong nowadays..yes even nowadays..they are lying and convincing/opressing their laws upon us.RESIST!!!!!!!!!!
SiouxSyndicate 1 year ago
awsome movie
jwwicker 1 year ago
Isn't the same guy that tries leaving and gets his horse shot the same one that arrests Sitting Bull?
Fantascular 1 year ago
@Cliner98 Agreed!It's so sad...Such a brainwashed society
dancesonpoles 1 year ago
Wow...This movie kind of makes me dislike the whites and the indians..They're both in compassionate and the Indians arn't as peaceful towards one another or nature in this movie as I'd imagine from all their "teachings." They act like white men amongst one another...Taints my image abit:/ Though this is a hollywood movie none the less..
dancesonpoles 1 year ago
2:40 wow... I don't imagine Sitting Bull was like that... But maybe it's just a movie right..?
C4pul1ne 1 year ago
Poor innocent horsey. D=
Altarcraft 1 year ago
Every group of peoples think that they are the best. Some have the absolute arrogance & are evil enough to act upon it, almost always scapegoating a weaker minority.
mmedefarge 1 year ago
I don't believe sitting bull (Tatanka Iyotake) was really as brutal as he is in this movie, especially to his own people. He was a very peaceful man and only acted as a warrior during wartimes, he was not as violent as this movie portrays him to be. In fact Tatanka became "civilized by the near the end of his life but was then murdered by them, along with his adoptive son.
nousername07mb 1 year ago
this is a very good movie but i cant watch it any longer seems like the more i watch the more i get mad.... thnx for the uploads anyway
KheMJoH 2 years ago 5
@KheMJoH ; the book is much worse and really sad to read. Made me feel depressed and angry. It tells the demise and imprisonment on reservations of all well known Native tribes and the means used to conquer them like deliberately spreading blankets with smallpox and killing the buffalo's to deprive the natives from their food. That is a truth that isn't told in historybooks. Instead, cold blooded murderers like Columbus, Cortez and Custer are depicted as heroes against those 'savage heathens'.
arafel1964 2 years ago
@arafel1964: Fuck Custer.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
@CelticWarrior1971 ; Yes, lol, fuck Custer. I really don´t understand why some Americans see him as hero while he was nothing more but a racist murderer. It is known he hated Native Americans and saw them as heathen savages who needed to be wiped of a land that was full of resources. He really believed that it was the white man´s, by God given, right to claim the land and he did not hesitate to kill children, elderly people and women while they were unarmed and on foot or had a white flag.
arafel1964 1 year ago
@arafel1964 I would not use that terminology (I think we can do better than "F*** Custer") But it is surely a mistake to view him as a hero. The whole "battle" was a stupid blunder and there was nothing really victorious or heroic about it by any stretch. I mourn the brutal loss of life all the way around.
The fact of course remains that the whites were the invaders and the greater blame must fall to them as far as the whole subjugation of 'America' is concerned.
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago 2
@ShawDAMAN; thanks for your comment. You are right, I should not use the F..word. Normally I´m a very friendly and peacefull person, it´s just that I know a lot of the sad fate of Native Americans, the so called boarding schools and the secret forced sterilisations of the women. Reading the book ´Bury my heart at Wounded Knee made me sad and angry. And the extinction of buffalos was meant to deprive the natives from their food as a way to conquer them
arafel1964 1 year ago
@arafel1964 Yes I understand your feelings . ;-) Are you of Native heritage yourself? I am not, but I have always had an interest in Native culture and history (history in general, really) and it is indeed an epic tragedy and blot on this nations past AND present, what was done to the Native peoples. And the skewed, watered down way in which the early history of the U.S. and it's leaders, military and otherwise, is usually presented, borders on ridiculous.
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago 2
.. Of course the Natives had their conflicts and their bad sorts like any nations do but I find that generally their basic beliefs and values were/are excellent, worthy of imitation, and just plain interesting and appealing. It boggles the mind to consider how much was lost. But; there is still plenty to learn and plenty of Native Americans around if you look for them. I know 3 or 4 myself and I plan on talking to them about some things. ^_^
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago 22
@ShawDAMAN; more and more people turn away from church and materialistic western society. Many people look for Native American animism or buddhism for guidance, try to live a natural live as much as possible, using biological food, recycling things and in harmony with nature. Apparently these life philosophies have something to offer which our modern world lacks. Lucky you, to know some natives! Especially if you are able to speak with an elder. I myself had some talks with a Cree shaman.
arafel1964 1 year ago 2
@arafel1964 Well, actually Christianity comes from the Middle-East, you could almost say the Western society has imitated the Semitic- texts.
ViruzNoob14 1 year ago
@ShawDAMAN; I am from Moorish ancestry. The Moors were animists just like the Native Americans and the Aborigines with respect for nature and all other living beings. The Islam forcefully conquered us and forbid our rituals and culture though some still practice them in secret. Our women who were equal to men are now treated as inferior to men. maybe that´s why I want the remaining animist cultures to survive.
arafel1964 1 year ago
@ShawDAMAN ; In historybooks on schools we all learn about the victorious conquest of America and it´s time the truth is told, that blankets with smallpox were handed out to make the natives sick, that alcohol was used to make them addicted and that women and children were killed even when standing under a white flag.That sort of facts only a very few historybooks tell. And that today natives belong to the poorests groups living in hopeless conditions on their reservations.
arafel1964 1 year ago 2
@Cliner98 This is nothing really compared to some other thing done to natives! I recomend you read "The rediscovery of North America", "The deverstation of the Indies" and "American Holocaust" all written by eye-witnesses- europeans who came with the conquerors! It's basicly historical docs, whi i couldn't find in the book stores , only online...unfortunatly!
alendarzhana 2 years ago
@alendarzhana @alendarzhana ; thanks for your comment and the docu you mentioned I'll look for it. Many people know from the Jewish Holocaust but not about the fact that the genoice of nates was far more worse. Only 800.000 from the 60 MILLION were alive after ww2. And now they belong to the most poorest and discriminated groups of America while the government and big companies make huge profits from resources from their stolen land without paying a part to the Natives.
arafel1964 2 years ago
that horse he killed was innocent. good thing this is all hollywood.
the white men of custer frighten me
butkicker75 2 years ago
The purpose behind Sitting Bull killing the horse was to send a message. That man had had that horse since he was a boy. It told the people that it was better to freeze in Canada and die free than to be hunted by the U.S..... It's the same reason he whipped the boys who stole crow horses, it was to send a message.
Dragging1Canoe 2 years ago 2
The food rationing that they have now (food banks) in the US is electronic. In order for people to get food what is denotations to the poor. People now have to show ID so the government keeps track on what people take.
cochisestronghold 2 years ago 2