YouTube really needs a 'buy this guy a beer' button.
You should practice your fake science a little though.
Clearly the specific energies embeded in this amulet activate the harmonic centers of your energy field. These nodes of spiritual and physical power begin to oscillate in sync with higher states of the universe, giving you strength. Quantum physics tells us that everything has its own oscillatory state and the amulet helps them connect.
The tests in this video bare absolutely no resemblance to applied kinesiology. If your going to try to disprove something at least use an accurate portrayal of it. If it is as fraudulent as you claim then it should be easy, and you shouldn't have to resort to deception yourself.
I did as you stated. I googled "applied kinesiology skeptics dictionary"... much of what is written IS true, however the conclusions drawn from the facts don't support an attack on AK. Please do me the honor of respecting my argument by checking the ICAK website before lumping all muscle testers under one banner of applied kinesiology. Your skeptics dictionary inaccurately defines true "applied kinesiology" and claims made by professional applied kinesiologists today.
I am a physician practicing REAL applied kinesiology. My only objection is that people throw around the words when they really don't understand it. I advise you to check the ICAK website-it makes no claims of new-age spiritual benefits. Please re-do this slanderous video and name it something like "How Frauds misuse physical examination and psychology to scam you out of money." It's the con artists giving Applied Kinesiology a bad name not the real stuff.
@seraiu "Real applied kinesiology"? eh? You better put this into Google. "applied kinesiology skeptic's dictionary" Tell you what, if you can prove that AK really works as claimed, Australian Skeptics will award you our $100,000 prize and I will delete this video. We await your application.
@richardhp77 For which cancer type? What type of chemotherapy? With or without complementary treatments? There are literally thousands of studies on the efficacy of chemotherapy for thousands of really specific circumstances. Go to Pubmedcentral and search "Chemotherapy efficacy" and find the one that meets your standards.
How do they get to even use the term Kinesiology? That's a very legitimate branch of science. My friend used to work in a rehabilitation clinic, and patients would come in and get some form of the standard treatment -- stretch this and lift that until you've strengthen enough stuff that the problem goes away. (Gross oversimplification, but it'll do.)
That is what I thought of when I first heard "Applied Kinesiology" -- not this psuedoscience bs. People will believe damn near anything...
God forbid you interview a qualified applied kinesiology practitioner or look at the dozens of peer reviewed studied completed.. Search BDORT on pubmed for studies done by Omura on the bi digital o-ring test (a specific kinesiology test) or the research on ICAK's website.
@goodfriendsam Care to apply for our $100,000 prize? Or maybe the $1,000,000 from the JREF. Just prove AK works as claimed. You can even call upon a "qualified applied kinesiology practitioner", I mean it should be a piece of cake for them.
Dude I was in a bad car wreck and in a ton of pain, I went to a Applied Kinesiologist and they did more for me than all the pills including morphine and percacet have ever done.
He didnt get a clear indicator muscle, or a calibrated muscle, these guys dont know what the hell they are talking about!!
If its about selling a product then they are not true Kinesiologists. Get the real facts before making fun of it. Or rather stick to Your drugs that mask pain - a message from your body that all is not well.
fUNNY HOW THEY ALL SKIP OVER THE FACT THAT THIS VIDEO DEBUNKS THE CHARLATANS AND SCAMMERS AND EVEN KINDLY SHOWS US HOW IT'S DONE FOR THE PROOF. EVERYONE WAS LIKE I WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY WATCH THIS AND GET ALL FLUSTERED ABOUT HOW THE DEFINITION OF WHAT AK IS IT NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE, NO GUFF, YET WHY DO YOU ONLY FOCUS ON THE NEGATIVITY OF THE VIDEO AND THEN BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT FOR DOING THE SAME DARM THING?
Here's me in a better demo and actually using Applied Kinesiology correctly. See: Dr. Motley demonstrates Applied Kinesiology - How neck problems cause lower back symptoms.
@mottdog2002 Why are you trying to argue with skeptics? You know they won't believe your side because there is no real science or proof or logic in your argument and that's what skeptics are all about. Go argue with someone who doesn't use logic and proof to make decisions, they are much easier to convince of whatever you want. By the way...good skeptics always educate themselves very well on topics before they make decisions and they use properly done scientific studies and nonbiased sources.
I think its funny that the "doctor" defending this is a Chiropractor and it has been shown that many of those research studies are not valid and neither is going to a chiropractor. Plus the other doctor who said it works only said it helped in subjective symptoms...so really its just the placebo effect at work and these things have no really effect on objective symptoms
that's not kinesiology, he just took this from the infomercials trying to sell these bands. Nah, do your research first before you attempt something like this.
As a medical practitioner I personally have relied on allopathic for my own care- with didasspointing results. I can only say that the results of using a skilled applied kinesiologist to help my own health have been clear cut enough for me to be happy to pay for the treatment.These treatments are simple and safe. If you are not satisfied that they are helping you - you are free to discontinue them any time.
Among the studies published in the medical literature you will find the following three studies, which provide significant evidence of both validity and reliability of manual muscle testing methods utilized in applied kinesiology: (a) Leisman, G., Shambaugh, P., Ferentz, A. Somatosensory Evoked Potential Changes During Muscle Testing. International Journal of Neuroscience. 1989; 45:143-151.
@mottdog2002 (b) Leisman, G., et al. Electromyographic Effects of Fatigue and Task Repetition on the Validity of Estimates of Strong and Weak Muscles in Applied Kinesiology Muscle Testing Procedures. Perceptual and Motor Skills. 1995; 80:963-977. (c) Lawson, A., Calderon, L. Interexaminer Agreement for Applied Kinesiology Manual Muscle Testing, Perceptual and Motor Skills. 1997; 84:539-546.
Respond to this video... Also, since you probably won't research it yourself. (Perhaps cause you afraid your wrong) let me help. 1. testing of substances by any method other than the stimulation of gustatory receptors on the tongue or olfactory receptors in the nose is specifically outside the realm of applied kinesiology, 2. using a straight "arm pull down" muscle test for the sole determinant of what therapy to administer is not considered applied kinesiology,
@mottdog2002 3. other methods, techniques, or approaches not in keeping with the status statement of the ICAK (for example, the failure to combine applied kinesiology assessment methods with standard examination methods) are also outside the realm of applied kinesiology.
@skepticzonepodcast ... I suppose you put on a demonstration of applied kinesiology or bent a spoon and he didn't know you were just putting on a show. ;)
@area51freakzone Are we correct in assuming you are an applied kinesiologist? Ad hominem attacks are no substitute for reason. Name-calling in the place of actual evidence is fallacious.
I've been doing it professionally for 15 years and this isn't it as any AK Doctor can tell you. Please read the ICAK's Mission Statement. And see icakusa(dot)com.
There's you'll find Research Studies Examining the Clinical Relevance, Predictive Validity and Accuracy of MMTFind a Diplomate and prove it to yourself.
You can also see my video : Philippines Chiropractor Dr. Motley demonstrates how neck problems cause lower back symptoms.
@skepticzonepodcast You need to prove it to yourself. I sent you MANY studies and have hundreds more proving MMT and its therapeutic values. But this video is pure B.S. not Applied Kiinesiology. You don't even know what it is which is sad in itself.
@mottdog2002 What makes the alt med crowd think that I or skeptics have to prove anything? We are not the ones making the bold claims... you are! You prove it to science... I mean you as in you as in you can then collect $1,000,000 from The James Randi Educational Foundation. (Sound of crickets chirping....
@skepticzonepodcast AK hasn't made ANY bold claims. Again THIS IS NOT Applied Kinesiology. You might want to educate yourself on the subject. What you have here is complete B.S. No offense.
@skepticzonepodcast And it is science. See for yourself. Go to icak(dot)com and icakusa(dot)com for hundreds of articles from MEDICAL Journals. Also please read the Applied Kinesiology: ICAK Response - Quackwatch, Which corrects many of the problems with your video. Thank you.
@skepticzonepodcast Why dont you read ith International Applied Kinesiology's Mission statement and educate yourself. It clearly defines what AK is and is not. You quickly find that this isn't it.
@skepticzonepodcast It's been proven over 25 years medicine and other health profession's. But if you want proof 1st you need a problem then find a DIBAK there the ONLY Licenced Doctors that are even allowed to teach AK's 100 hour course. Watching this video it's apparent you don't even know what AK is. You might want to research it and catch up.
@mottdog2002 Oh and do a youtube search on "Muscle Testing Demonstration, Applied Kinesiology by Austin Chiropractic Care"... I think you better write to him too.
@skepticzonepodcast That isn't Applied Kinesiology. Nothing in his video is offical AK. See me in my video fro a better understanding. Like I have said and will say again there is an International College of Applied Kinesiology. Please go to there site and find out what IS and IS NOT Applied Kinesiology. Researching it .
That's funny....I was just mentioning how people are dick riding these "sciency" words and coming up with some fake money making b.s. Scientists do the same thing (some)
damn some guy at the mall folled me into buying one of these for 32$, I looked at the receipt and it said "NO REFUNDS". thought it was fishy so I came across this video. now i fell like a idiot and lost 32$ because that scamer said it contained rare minerals. I'm going to the mall tomarrow and am going to sand by his booth and tell people that are interested that it's a scam. fucker.
I am s surprised that ppl still are taken in by all this energy rubbish. It is just like religion. Dont think about it just accept without any proof. If you believe enough will think you are geting the results you want. Guys placebo is what you are getting.
Think for yourselves, if there is no scientifically proven evidnence then take it with a grain of salt because it is probably a con.
Power balance is retard few weeks ago my friend trick me instead of letting me wearing the power balance he let me wear a regular LiveStrong Bracelet from sport check and let me wear a blind fold so he did the test on me flex, strength, And Balance. and guess what it was the same result in fact the regular live strong bracelet gave more result than power balance. So.. basically there just scamming you for $25 TO 60BUCKS like wtf...
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ive done the blind test, ive done to other people without telling them what i was doing and ive used different objects. energy armor bracelets work for me. the keyword in that sentence is ME. its also worked for the people ive done it to. Even if its a pschological thing energy armor bracelets do their job.
@skepticzonepodcast Don't need to. i believe in the energy armor wristbands rather it be psychological or otherwise. whether anybody else believes in them is of no concern to me. i'm not trying to sell or endorse their products. I'm just telling peole what my experience is.
The mind is a very powerful tool that Doctors and drug companies don't want you to learn about. The irony is that the biggest scam on the planet is chemotherapy. It destroys patients immune systems so much that they have no chance of healing. And after 60 years of "research" and trillions of dollars they are still using the old (very profitable) drugs that simply don't work. If they had a cure do u think they would let us know about it while they are raking in $billions a month from chemo drugs.
@Charlie66T Care to share with me the in-depth study you undertook, testing the effects of these chemicals over a long period of time on several hundred test subjects? Oh, you didn't do one? Oh, and what's that? Chemotherapy does kill and/or subdue cancer cells? What a surprise! And while it weakens the body, as is expected of a toxin, patients recuperate quite quickly. My, my, we're learning a lot today! You won't change your mind though. You're set in your ways as a conspiracy theorist.
Amega Global products are just reminding our body's marvelous capacity to heal. I have used these products especially the AMega Wand and I have seen the difference of before and after effects. I do agree on the PLACEBO effect which has now become a term used by skeptics to claim that these products are a SCAM. But AMEGA isn't a scam for people who understand that World is not Flat but Round...
PLACEBO effect may work on humans but what about Animals and Plants? These products when used on Plants and Animals have the same effect.... Now do you claim that Plants and Animals understand human language?Common guys wake up World around you is big .. Step out of your four walled world and look around you. Do not comment before experiencing and do not always under estimate the power of INVISIBLE energy (Electricity, GAMMA, AIR, etc...)
i saw a test done on my friend with one of these bracelets in a west 49 yesterday. the test worked and i was just wondering how some highschool girl would know to press different directions for each test?
I am all in favour of charlatons being exposed and no doubt there are some practitioners who unwittingly use this direction of pressure, BUT if you are taught correctly to press down vertically and are consistent with your testing methods you get more reliable results and it can be a useful test. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater just yet!
My martial arts teacher does this with "chi-gathering movements" instead of a bracelet (I expect he's been fooled by it himself). I didn't buy it, but I didn't figure it out either. I always figured he was subconsciously pushing harder when he expected me to fall. The toward/away from center of gravity ideomotor effect is very clever. Thank you for the explanation!
This has nothing to do with Applied Kinesiology. This guy is trying to confuse and fool people. This is a balance test as he stated and has nothing to do with actually testing muscles as what practitioners of Applied Kinesiology do. Practitioner do not support the use of Harmonic devices. These tests in now way or form are ever taught in any classes of Applied Kinesiology. Don't be fooled by individuals like this. Also you should not be fooled by people that sell these harmonic devices.
Haha! I knew there was a trick to it but I just couldn't figure out how it worked!!! Thanks so much for this video. Next time I run into one of those powerband sellers I'ma ask them to do the balance test themselves.
I spent 20 bucks on my bracelet. 5 bucks went to cancer, supposedly. But it is a great conversation starter. Especially if you actively "try" to convince people its real, they almost feel like your challenging their beliefs. In the back of you mind your thinking what an idiot. I use it in the gym all the time to tell people it helps me lift more weight. Havent seen anyone else with one yet but I'm hopeful.
PLACEBO effect may work on humans but what about Animals and Plants? These products when used on Plants and Animals have the same effect.... Now do you claim that Plants and Animals understand human language?Common guys wake up World around you is big .. Step out of your four walled world and look around you. Do not comment before experiencing and do not always under estimate the power of INVISIBLE energy (Electricity, GAMMA, AIR, etc...)
Applied kinesiology isn't real. (shocking) What's next? I suppose you'll tell me the energy charged bracelet I bought at the mall that gives me more strength and flexibility is a worthless piece of shit!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
@metalsusa1 if u think its really than it is. your brain is capable of many things. just believing it will improve your strength WILL IMPROVE Your STRENGTH
@lief286 Oh.. You mean the same Power Balance that admitted that their product does not work? Sure. You can also apply for the JREF $1000,000 if you still think it works.
great!!!!! someone knows the truth, a guy came up to me offering this product for $40...Good thing I noticed their tricks...I can't believe how many people get tricked by these things.!!
Great video.. keep up the fantastic (but invariably thankless) work. These things are an absolute waste of plastic and I pity the people who fork out for them.
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I would agree with you about the flexibility test.. But I tried turning and got halfway.. I tried it again with the bracelet and got 3 quarters.. THEN I tried it again without the bracelet and I went back to halfway. It works and I don't care how it does.
@glitch417 Sorry I guess I only went halfway lol Seriously though, how are you the only one who can't do this without any magic bracelet? Did you're turning muscles tire out? Just do it without any bracelet ever, and you'll likely notice the ability to go farther on the second try. Otherwise, I dunno, maybe you're subconsciously impeding yourself I got no clue. Everyone can do it *shrug*
@Megaultraawesome99 The placebo effect is a very strong psychological effect - That is demonstrated by the apparent benefits of homeopathy and placebo homeopathic pills in clinical trials. If not the placebo effect (although I am betting it is) there is also confirmation bias.
@daemonowner that makes sense.but if the placebo affect was positive on me,then there! it does work,depending on the consumer of the product.Makes sense to me now.
@Megaultraawesome99 There are negatives with using placebo pills or treatments, namely that you are missing out on the actual benefits of real conventional medical treatments, which has gotten people killed when it comes to things like cancer. Obviously kinesiology isn't likely to get you killed, unless you tried to balance on the edge of a cliff or something stupid like that, but they still get your money.
PB is being forced to give refunds for all their bracelets in Australia, as they cannot make the claims they say they make with the bracelet. The easy test would be to use a placebo bracelet and a PB bracelet. Don't let the person doing the AK test know which one the person is wearing. At that point, you will find that now the person doing this old carny trick will have to guess which bracelet the person is wearing. Wonder how well it will work?
well... They already have done that: watch?v=yd0Gb9EgkHA&playnext=1&list=PLCFE6183515A7B3B5
The video itself is funny as hell, but for genuine unintentional comedy, you have to read the comments. Fuck me, some people really WANT to be scammed.
@zepp3lin The placebo effect can be in the observer. With an assistant, try a blinded test, where you do not know when the baby is wearing the bracelet.
@zepp3lin how about you tell that to all the PHD scientist who even said "this dosent follow any scientific laws whats so ever" and also the people on the review forums who were riped off by the product
I would not call myself a believer in a.kinesiology. But this particular video does nothing to debunk it. He accuses them of pseudo science but the irony is that there is nothing remotely scientific in his approach either. He just gives his opinion on how the balancing test is done which btw would require one of the participants to be deliberately not trying, then this psychologist gives commonly repeated cliches. This isn't a debunking, just somebody's untested opinion presented w/o proof...
@slpcgamer "this particular video does nothing to debunk it"
Besides demonstrating that the closest thing these kooks have to evidence is trivially faked; that their testing techniques are flawed and invalid and thus, their claims of a causal relationship between shiny bracelets and balance is unfounded. That is debunking, actually. Go look it up in a dictionary.
@slpcgamer "this particular video does nothing to debunk it"
Besides demonstrating that the closest thing these kooks have to evidence is trivially faked; that their testing techniques are flawed and invalid and thus, their claims of a causal relationship between shiny bracelets and balance is unfounded. That is debunking, actually. Go look it up in a dictionary.
@slpcgamer "deliberately not trying, then this psychologist gives commonly repeated cliches"
Those cliches make it clear that it need not be deliberate at all. Dismissing it out of hand is not any kind of counter-argument. The truth is that such biases are the bane of even real scientists, not just charlatans. Owning up to them and doing everything you can to preclude them from influencing your outcomes is merely what separates science from quackery.
@slpcgamer He's revealing the trick. You can deny they're doing any tricking, but come on... why do you think they did those specific supposed tests? Because the results are easy to manipulate and cheat. They coulda went with balance beam walking but then the presenter couldn't push you this way and that.
Disappointed. This video proves bugger all. They explain the marketing but not the results. The whole 'pushing down at an angle thing' doesn't cut it either. I've seen the balance test done by complete strangers with different angles and pressure points and the results are still the same.
And I don't buy into any of the 'science' or 'selling points' behind the bracelets. Still a skeptic, but still looking for a decent explanation. These smug self reflexive people don't seem to have one.
YouTube really needs a 'buy this guy a beer' button.
You should practice your fake science a little though.
Clearly the specific energies embeded in this amulet activate the harmonic centers of your energy field. These nodes of spiritual and physical power begin to oscillate in sync with higher states of the universe, giving you strength. Quantum physics tells us that everything has its own oscillatory state and the amulet helps them connect.
Sadly, one in seventy people would buy this...
holleridio 1 month ago
The tests in this video bare absolutely no resemblance to applied kinesiology. If your going to try to disprove something at least use an accurate portrayal of it. If it is as fraudulent as you claim then it should be easy, and you shouldn't have to resort to deception yourself.
MrSkufle 1 month ago
Where can I buy one of those harmonic energy oscillation pendants?
21gage21 1 month ago
@goodfriendsam
DrKR0M 2 months ago
What Australian Skeptics says AK claims and what AK REALLY claims are two different things...
seraiu 2 months ago
I did as you stated. I googled "applied kinesiology skeptics dictionary"... much of what is written IS true, however the conclusions drawn from the facts don't support an attack on AK. Please do me the honor of respecting my argument by checking the ICAK website before lumping all muscle testers under one banner of applied kinesiology. Your skeptics dictionary inaccurately defines true "applied kinesiology" and claims made by professional applied kinesiologists today.
seraiu 2 months ago
Where can I buy myself one of them harmonic energy doohickies?
revjimbob 2 months ago
I am a physician practicing REAL applied kinesiology. My only objection is that people throw around the words when they really don't understand it. I advise you to check the ICAK website-it makes no claims of new-age spiritual benefits. Please re-do this slanderous video and name it something like "How Frauds misuse physical examination and psychology to scam you out of money." It's the con artists giving Applied Kinesiology a bad name not the real stuff.
seraiu 2 months ago
@seraiu "Real applied kinesiology"? eh? You better put this into Google. "applied kinesiology skeptic's dictionary" Tell you what, if you can prove that AK really works as claimed, Australian Skeptics will award you our $100,000 prize and I will delete this video. We await your application.
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago 14
@skepticzonepodcast Find me a study that conclusively proves that chemotherapy works. I'd honestly like to read it.
richardhp77 3 weeks ago
@richardhp77 For which cancer type? What type of chemotherapy? With or without complementary treatments? There are literally thousands of studies on the efficacy of chemotherapy for thousands of really specific circumstances. Go to Pubmedcentral and search "Chemotherapy efficacy" and find the one that meets your standards.
RexFordVII 1 week ago
@seraiu , you´re absolutly right. What is presented here is a misuse of AK by people that have no idea what is tested in AK and how it is tested.
garylaowai 1 month ago
I got my Bachelors of Science in actual Kinesiology...this "applied" crap is an insult...lol
adamsj35 2 months ago
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Isn't this the same thing from disproving those power balance wristbands?
DudeIKilledKenny 2 months ago
How do they get to even use the term Kinesiology? That's a very legitimate branch of science. My friend used to work in a rehabilitation clinic, and patients would come in and get some form of the standard treatment -- stretch this and lift that until you've strengthen enough stuff that the problem goes away. (Gross oversimplification, but it'll do.)
That is what I thought of when I first heard "Applied Kinesiology" -- not this psuedoscience bs. People will believe damn near anything...
miketwo345 2 months ago
God forbid you interview a qualified applied kinesiology practitioner or look at the dozens of peer reviewed studied completed.. Search BDORT on pubmed for studies done by Omura on the bi digital o-ring test (a specific kinesiology test) or the research on ICAK's website.
goodfriendsam 2 months ago
@goodfriendsam Care to apply for our $100,000 prize? Or maybe the $1,000,000 from the JREF. Just prove AK works as claimed. You can even call upon a "qualified applied kinesiology practitioner", I mean it should be a piece of cake for them.
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago
This video has absolutely nothing to do with propper kinesiology
patchingmagic 2 months ago
@patchingmagic You are correct. This video has nothing to do with the real science of Kinesiology. It is about the quackery of "Applied Kinesiology".
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago
Dude I was in a bad car wreck and in a ton of pain, I went to a Applied Kinesiologist and they did more for me than all the pills including morphine and percacet have ever done.
bpnsirdiealot 2 months ago
Anecdotes are not evidence.
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago
@skepticzonepodcast Results are.
bpnsirdiealot 2 months ago
@bpnsirdiealot Not if they are anecdotes.
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago
when my son got this done she didnt do all that! this is bull
MuslimahModesty 2 months ago
bloody quack science idiots
TheDJdkutz 2 months ago
where can i buy that pendent, or the wombat? nice video
ronv11 3 months ago
did this to a power balance retailer in front of a crowd, everyone called the salesperson a fag afterwards.
xwizardgodx0 4 months ago
I wish people would give me their money instead of these fucking quacks. :(
nice video
ShutYourMouthBiotch 4 months ago
I am an athlete and I need to know where I can order one of those wombats to improve my performance.
abracadaverous 5 months ago 9
How much are you charging for the magical wombat?
miketwo345 5 months ago
@miketwo345 Little Nommington is not for sale :)
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago
He didnt get a clear indicator muscle, or a calibrated muscle, these guys dont know what the hell they are talking about!!
If its about selling a product then they are not true Kinesiologists. Get the real facts before making fun of it. Or rather stick to Your drugs that mask pain - a message from your body that all is not well.
jillysponges 5 months ago
Care to apply for our $100,000 prize? Or maybe the $1,000,000 from the JREF. Just prove AK works as claimed.
skepticzonepodcast 5 months ago 19
@jillysponges THIS video is about APPLIED Kinesiology which is not to be confused with Kinesiology.
It does state that in the title.
exposefraud 3 months ago
fUNNY HOW THEY ALL SKIP OVER THE FACT THAT THIS VIDEO DEBUNKS THE CHARLATANS AND SCAMMERS AND EVEN KINDLY SHOWS US HOW IT'S DONE FOR THE PROOF. EVERYONE WAS LIKE I WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY WATCH THIS AND GET ALL FLUSTERED ABOUT HOW THE DEFINITION OF WHAT AK IS IT NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE, NO GUFF, YET WHY DO YOU ONLY FOCUS ON THE NEGATIVITY OF THE VIDEO AND THEN BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT FOR DOING THE SAME DARM THING?
21Trinity7 5 months ago
Here's me in a better demo and actually using Applied Kinesiology correctly. See: Dr. Motley demonstrates Applied Kinesiology - How neck problems cause lower back symptoms.
mottdog2002 6 months ago 2
@mottdog2002 Why are you trying to argue with skeptics? You know they won't believe your side because there is no real science or proof or logic in your argument and that's what skeptics are all about. Go argue with someone who doesn't use logic and proof to make decisions, they are much easier to convince of whatever you want. By the way...good skeptics always educate themselves very well on topics before they make decisions and they use properly done scientific studies and nonbiased sources.
Kdow001 6 months ago 4
@Kdow001 This skeptic didn't obviously.
mottdog2002 6 months ago
I think its funny that the "doctor" defending this is a Chiropractor and it has been shown that many of those research studies are not valid and neither is going to a chiropractor. Plus the other doctor who said it works only said it helped in subjective symptoms...so really its just the placebo effect at work and these things have no really effect on objective symptoms
Kdow001 6 months ago
You may think next time you go to a chiropractor office. Detect a Neck problem with a Muscle Test?
soulofthebang 6 months ago
@soulofthebang Sure but you must test a neck muscle like upper trap or SCM's or scalene's.
mottdog2002 6 months ago
that's not kinesiology, he just took this from the infomercials trying to sell these bands. Nah, do your research first before you attempt something like this.
JpFuckingFunyon 6 months ago 2
i bet he ranks below 200 on the scale =]
JpFuckingFunyon 6 months ago
Pseudoskepticism- I just love it.
As a medical practitioner I personally have relied on allopathic for my own care- with didasspointing results. I can only say that the results of using a skilled applied kinesiologist to help my own health have been clear cut enough for me to be happy to pay for the treatment.These treatments are simple and safe. If you are not satisfied that they are helping you - you are free to discontinue them any time.
AndyJK45 7 months ago
@AndyJK45 You are a 'medical practitioner'? Why would you use the made up homeopathic term "allopathic"? Oh.. you are not a doctor I would guess.
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago 3
I want my money back! Who's with me?
DrFreeman578 7 months ago
Among the studies published in the medical literature you will find the following three studies, which provide significant evidence of both validity and reliability of manual muscle testing methods utilized in applied kinesiology: (a) Leisman, G., Shambaugh, P., Ferentz, A. Somatosensory Evoked Potential Changes During Muscle Testing. International Journal of Neuroscience. 1989; 45:143-151.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@mottdog2002 (b) Leisman, G., et al. Electromyographic Effects of Fatigue and Task Repetition on the Validity of Estimates of Strong and Weak Muscles in Applied Kinesiology Muscle Testing Procedures. Perceptual and Motor Skills. 1995; 80:963-977. (c) Lawson, A., Calderon, L. Interexaminer Agreement for Applied Kinesiology Manual Muscle Testing, Perceptual and Motor Skills. 1997; 84:539-546.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
Respond to this video... Also, since you probably won't research it yourself. (Perhaps cause you afraid your wrong) let me help. 1. testing of substances by any method other than the stimulation of gustatory receptors on the tongue or olfactory receptors in the nose is specifically outside the realm of applied kinesiology, 2. using a straight "arm pull down" muscle test for the sole determinant of what therapy to administer is not considered applied kinesiology,
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@mottdog2002 3. other methods, techniques, or approaches not in keeping with the status statement of the ICAK (for example, the failure to combine applied kinesiology assessment methods with standard examination methods) are also outside the realm of applied kinesiology.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
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This - guy - is - a - total - wanker, I have met him at a skeptics meet and he is a total fake
area51freakzone 7 months ago
@area51freakzone Does that make him wrong? No.
Mind you, in the brief meetings with Richard I've not found him to be a wanker. Sure you weren't being a twat?
bayanimills 7 months ago
@area51freakzone When and where? Why am I a "total fake"? What did I do that is fake?
skepticzonepodcast 2 months ago 5
@skepticzonepodcast ... I suppose you put on a demonstration of applied kinesiology or bent a spoon and he didn't know you were just putting on a show. ;)
Or he's a lying troll...
chipcherry 4 weeks ago
@area51freakzone Are we correct in assuming you are an applied kinesiologist? Ad hominem attacks are no substitute for reason. Name-calling in the place of actual evidence is fallacious.
jlandles 1 month ago
I've been doing it professionally for 15 years and this isn't it as any AK Doctor can tell you. Please read the ICAK's Mission Statement. And see icakusa(dot)com.
There's you'll find Research Studies Examining the Clinical Relevance, Predictive Validity and Accuracy of MMTFind a Diplomate and prove it to yourself.
You can also see my video : Philippines Chiropractor Dr. Motley demonstrates how neck problems cause lower back symptoms.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@mottdog2002 Fine, just prove it to science and you're on a winner.
skepticzonepodcast 7 months ago
@skepticzonepodcast You need to prove it to yourself. I sent you MANY studies and have hundreds more proving MMT and its therapeutic values. But this video is pure B.S. not Applied Kiinesiology. You don't even know what it is which is sad in itself.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@mottdog2002 What makes the alt med crowd think that I or skeptics have to prove anything? We are not the ones making the bold claims... you are! You prove it to science... I mean you as in you as in you can then collect $1,000,000 from The James Randi Educational Foundation. (Sound of crickets chirping....
skepticzonepodcast 7 months ago 3
@skepticzonepodcast AK hasn't made ANY bold claims. Again THIS IS NOT Applied Kinesiology. You might want to educate yourself on the subject. What you have here is complete B.S. No offense.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@skepticzonepodcast And it is science. See for yourself. Go to icak(dot)com and icakusa(dot)com for hundreds of articles from MEDICAL Journals. Also please read the Applied Kinesiology: ICAK Response - Quackwatch, Which corrects many of the problems with your video. Thank you.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@mottdog2002 owned.
Roksonixx 6 months ago
@Roksonixx Thanks. Itried to tell this guy this isn't Applied Kinseiology. Need to pull this video or rename it. This stuff is B.S.
mottdog2002 6 months ago
Respond to this video... Its been proven in hundreds of studies. Which I've sent you.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
None of this is Applied Kinesiology my friend. It's a bastardization of it.
mottdog2002 7 months ago
@mottdog2002 Really. What about all those people who claim it is? Anyway, if you can prove AK works go right ahead.
skepticzonepodcast 7 months ago 3
@skepticzonepodcast Why dont you read ith International Applied Kinesiology's Mission statement and educate yourself. It clearly defines what AK is and is not. You quickly find that this isn't it.
mottdog2002 6 months ago
@mottdog2002 As soon as YOU show us AK works as claimed I'll change the video.
skepticzonepodcast 6 months ago
@skepticzonepodcast It's been proven over 25 years medicine and other health profession's. But if you want proof 1st you need a problem then find a DIBAK there the ONLY Licenced Doctors that are even allowed to teach AK's 100 hour course. Watching this video it's apparent you don't even know what AK is. You might want to research it and catch up.
mottdog2002 6 months ago
@mottdog2002 I'll take that as a "no".
skepticzonepodcast 6 months ago
@skepticzonepodcast No one can prove anything to you but I will be happy to demonstrate and explain.
mottdog2002 6 months ago
@mottdog2002 Oh and do a youtube search on "Muscle Testing Demonstration, Applied Kinesiology by Austin Chiropractic Care"... I think you better write to him too.
skepticzonepodcast 6 months ago
@skepticzonepodcast That isn't Applied Kinesiology. Nothing in his video is offical AK. See me in my video fro a better understanding. Like I have said and will say again there is an International College of Applied Kinesiology. Please go to there site and find out what IS and IS NOT Applied Kinesiology. Researching it .
mottdog2002 6 months ago
That's funny....I was just mentioning how people are dick riding these "sciency" words and coming up with some fake money making b.s. Scientists do the same thing (some)
wjvnlrd 7 months ago
why 420$ doc?
steviewonder417 7 months ago
XXX
tbloukos 8 months ago
skip to 5:17 for the explanations.
peterpeterification 8 months ago 3
damn some guy at the mall folled me into buying one of these for 32$, I looked at the receipt and it said "NO REFUNDS". thought it was fishy so I came across this video. now i fell like a idiot and lost 32$ because that scamer said it contained rare minerals. I'm going to the mall tomarrow and am going to sand by his booth and tell people that are interested that it's a scam. fucker.
SpeedyClackster 8 months ago
6:01 WTF
damewse 8 months ago
I am s surprised that ppl still are taken in by all this energy rubbish. It is just like religion. Dont think about it just accept without any proof. If you believe enough will think you are geting the results you want. Guys placebo is what you are getting.
Think for yourselves, if there is no scientifically proven evidnence then take it with a grain of salt because it is probably a con.
peterb1968 8 months ago
WHERE CAN I BUY ONE OF THESE WONDERFUL CERAMIC PENDANTS!? $420 SEEMS LIKE AN EXCELLENT DEAL!!
samurphy 9 months ago 4
@samurphy $ 420 only!!?? Well ...is gold or silver???
livecasinopoker 8 months ago
Power balance is retard few weeks ago my friend trick me instead of letting me wearing the power balance he let me wear a regular LiveStrong Bracelet from sport check and let me wear a blind fold so he did the test on me flex, strength, And Balance. and guess what it was the same result in fact the regular live strong bracelet gave more result than power balance. So.. basically there just scamming you for $25 TO 60BUCKS like wtf...
iSeeBenchKickS 9 months ago
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ive done the blind test, ive done to other people without telling them what i was doing and ive used different objects. energy armor bracelets work for me. the keyword in that sentence is ME. its also worked for the people ive done it to. Even if its a pschological thing energy armor bracelets do their job.
jmard24 9 months ago
@jmard24 Great! Care to prove it?
skepticzonepodcast 9 months ago 13
@skepticzonepodcast Don't need to. i believe in the energy armor wristbands rather it be psychological or otherwise. whether anybody else believes in them is of no concern to me. i'm not trying to sell or endorse their products. I'm just telling peole what my experience is.
jmard24 9 months ago
The mind is a very powerful tool that Doctors and drug companies don't want you to learn about. The irony is that the biggest scam on the planet is chemotherapy. It destroys patients immune systems so much that they have no chance of healing. And after 60 years of "research" and trillions of dollars they are still using the old (very profitable) drugs that simply don't work. If they had a cure do u think they would let us know about it while they are raking in $billions a month from chemo drugs.
Charlie66T 9 months ago
@Charlie66T So, you're a doctor with research to back up your claims?
KaaSerpent 9 months ago
@Charlie66T Care to share with me the in-depth study you undertook, testing the effects of these chemicals over a long period of time on several hundred test subjects? Oh, you didn't do one? Oh, and what's that? Chemotherapy does kill and/or subdue cancer cells? What a surprise! And while it weakens the body, as is expected of a toxin, patients recuperate quite quickly. My, my, we're learning a lot today! You won't change your mind though. You're set in your ways as a conspiracy theorist.
DoctorMelon 9 months ago
@jmard24 That would make you a victum "Double-Digit IQ syndrome".
There is no cure.
DrLegitimate 9 months ago
Amega Global products are just reminding our body's marvelous capacity to heal. I have used these products especially the AMega Wand and I have seen the difference of before and after effects. I do agree on the PLACEBO effect which has now become a term used by skeptics to claim that these products are a SCAM. But AMEGA isn't a scam for people who understand that World is not Flat but Round...
samk9040 9 months ago
PLACEBO effect may work on humans but what about Animals and Plants? These products when used on Plants and Animals have the same effect.... Now do you claim that Plants and Animals understand human language?Common guys wake up World around you is big .. Step out of your four walled world and look around you. Do not comment before experiencing and do not always under estimate the power of INVISIBLE energy (Electricity, GAMMA, AIR, etc...)
samk9040 9 months ago
i saw a test done on my friend with one of these bracelets in a west 49 yesterday. the test worked and i was just wondering how some highschool girl would know to press different directions for each test?
higginsonnick 10 months ago
This is a complete con by so called scientists.
You should be ashamed or yourselves
Sean77778888 10 months ago
I am all in favour of charlatons being exposed and no doubt there are some practitioners who unwittingly use this direction of pressure, BUT if you are taught correctly to press down vertically and are consistent with your testing methods you get more reliable results and it can be a useful test. Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater just yet!
Powertochange 10 months ago 2
My martial arts teacher does this with "chi-gathering movements" instead of a bracelet (I expect he's been fooled by it himself). I didn't buy it, but I didn't figure it out either. I always figured he was subconsciously pushing harder when he expected me to fall. The toward/away from center of gravity ideomotor effect is very clever. Thank you for the explanation!
VulcanFleet 10 months ago
Another excellent video - Thank you.
linlinro2012 10 months ago
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This has nothing to do with Applied Kinesiology. This guy is trying to confuse and fool people. This is a balance test as he stated and has nothing to do with actually testing muscles as what practitioners of Applied Kinesiology do. Practitioner do not support the use of Harmonic devices. These tests in now way or form are ever taught in any classes of Applied Kinesiology. Don't be fooled by individuals like this. Also you should not be fooled by people that sell these harmonic devices.
jasonsdoolin1 10 months ago
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jasonsdoolin1 10 months ago
i gae my brother a metal bracelet i found n my drower and said it was special. i tryed the test on him and it worked. its all in yer head
xxskategutarxx 10 months ago
guys u get it for $0.88 online at chinabuye com I hardly think thats worth all this shit about being skeptic or not.
SoEffingRandom1 10 months ago
Haha! I knew there was a trick to it but I just couldn't figure out how it worked!!! Thanks so much for this video. Next time I run into one of those powerband sellers I'ma ask them to do the balance test themselves.
Xavil2008 10 months ago
420 dollars :-P
lagerbaer 10 months ago
I love that people still think this stuff magically works after all of the tricks are exposed.
jacobromu 10 months ago
@jacobromu it literal works if you belve in it. but if you dont beleve than it doesnt.
xxskategutarxx 10 months ago
@xxskategutarxx Sounds a lot like the placebo effect.
jacobromu 10 months ago
@xxskategutarxx
That's called a placebo.
opmike343 10 months ago
I spent 20 bucks on my bracelet. 5 bucks went to cancer, supposedly. But it is a great conversation starter. Especially if you actively "try" to convince people its real, they almost feel like your challenging their beliefs. In the back of you mind your thinking what an idiot. I use it in the gym all the time to tell people it helps me lift more weight. Havent seen anyone else with one yet but I'm hopeful.
Nighthawk30722 10 months ago
this is the first of your videos i saw and i loved it. keep up the good work
gaving2 11 months ago 6
@gaving2 Thanks!
skepticzonepodcast 11 months ago
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PLACEBO effect may work on humans but what about Animals and Plants? These products when used on Plants and Animals have the same effect.... Now do you claim that Plants and Animals understand human language?Common guys wake up World around you is big .. Step out of your four walled world and look around you. Do not comment before experiencing and do not always under estimate the power of INVISIBLE energy (Electricity, GAMMA, AIR, etc...)
samk9040 9 months ago
Applied kinesiology isn't real. (shocking) What's next? I suppose you'll tell me the energy charged bracelet I bought at the mall that gives me more strength and flexibility is a worthless piece of shit!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
metalsusa1 11 months ago 4
@metalsusa1 if u think its really than it is. your brain is capable of many things. just believing it will improve your strength WILL IMPROVE Your STRENGTH
xxskategutarxx 10 months ago
@xxskategutarxx Prove it.
jacobromu 10 months ago
i see kobe bryant wearin it. fuck it! imma wear it too.
ALkritic 11 months ago
COMPLETELY FAKE!!
threpsi 11 months ago
Who shuvs 420 dollars down the toilet?
HASLUM 1 year ago
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Pff... Try Powerbalance and THEN be skeptic. I was all like you untill i tried it. Now i am wearing it and its really working
lief286 1 year ago
@lief286 Oh.. You mean the same Power Balance that admitted that their product does not work? Sure. You can also apply for the JREF $1000,000 if you still think it works.
skepticzonepodcast 1 year ago 26
@lief286 Such a noob.
STFU. You are an idiot
neivin93 1 year ago
@lief286 Of course it works! It made someone a millionaire and you now feel better for helping them.
Next time donate you money to charity, not to scammers.
foroparapente 11 months ago
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@lief286 Oh dear you have been taken in.
peterb1968 8 months ago
I want a HOE bracelet!
daemonowner 1 year ago
26 people bought a powerband and then stumbled upon this video
thepimplishone 1 year ago
Dude, I gotta get me one of those pendants. That's amazing!
keydetpiper 1 year ago
Applied kinesiology has nothing to do with magnetic bracelets.
yeagermyster82 1 year ago
What a load of hooey. Tater gonna come out and say it straight -- you believe this nonsense, you'll believe anything, and you shouldn't be votin.
TaterGumfries 1 year ago
hahahahahahaha all is scam to sell bracelets!!!! awesome
dachshundgeorgia 1 year ago
So how did the powerband work when my friends and i tried it?
footballx73x 1 year ago
"Quantum" obviously makes it ten times better.
Mapariensis 1 year ago 6
great!!!!! someone knows the truth, a guy came up to me offering this product for $40...Good thing I noticed their tricks...I can't believe how many people get tricked by these things.!!
ergiobaez 1 year ago
Why aren't there corks on that ladie's hat??
InfiniteTurtles 1 year ago
420 dollars..........
nefarious09 1 year ago
Great video.. keep up the fantastic (but invariably thankless) work. These things are an absolute waste of plastic and I pity the people who fork out for them.
Seone811 1 year ago 4
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I would agree with you about the flexibility test.. But I tried turning and got halfway.. I tried it again with the bracelet and got 3 quarters.. THEN I tried it again without the bracelet and I went back to halfway. It works and I don't care how it does.
glitch417 1 year ago
@glitch417 That's interesting, but I bet you have not done a blind test. Sorry you have been ripped off.
skepticzonepodcast 1 year ago 19
@skepticzonepodcast Even if it's a placebo effect, it works for me. I paid one dollar for it on a chinese website.
glitch417 1 year ago
@glitch417 Damn it, didn't you just watch the video in it's entirety? That will happen on the second try whether you have the bracelet or not.
tweaker1bms 1 year ago 2
@tweaker1bms Damn it, didn't you read my comment properly?
glitch417 1 year ago
@glitch417 Sorry I guess I only went halfway lol Seriously though, how are you the only one who can't do this without any magic bracelet? Did you're turning muscles tire out? Just do it without any bracelet ever, and you'll likely notice the ability to go farther on the second try. Otherwise, I dunno, maybe you're subconsciously impeding yourself I got no clue. Everyone can do it *shrug*
tweaker1bms 1 year ago
@tweaker1bms Nope.. I bought super powers for a dollar lol..
glitch417 1 year ago
@glitch417 i dont care if i get bad comments,i completely agree.i punch harder with it,do more push ups.etc.i dont get how that can be a trick.
Megaultraawesome99 1 year ago
@Megaultraawesome99 The placebo effect is a very strong psychological effect - That is demonstrated by the apparent benefits of homeopathy and placebo homeopathic pills in clinical trials. If not the placebo effect (although I am betting it is) there is also confirmation bias.
daemonowner 1 year ago
@daemonowner that makes sense.but if the placebo affect was positive on me,then there! it does work,depending on the consumer of the product.Makes sense to me now.
Megaultraawesome99 1 year ago
@Megaultraawesome99 There are negatives with using placebo pills or treatments, namely that you are missing out on the actual benefits of real conventional medical treatments, which has gotten people killed when it comes to things like cancer. Obviously kinesiology isn't likely to get you killed, unless you tried to balance on the edge of a cliff or something stupid like that, but they still get your money.
daemonowner 1 year ago
You can tell this is exactly what happens while watching the cheesy TV commercials in the US for these worthless things.
I suspect it's going to end up a fad like Hula Hoops or pet rocks. Short-term profits but not a long-term success.
Don't be scammed. These things are worthless pieces of rubber.
middlekk 1 year ago 3
PB is being forced to give refunds for all their bracelets in Australia, as they cannot make the claims they say they make with the bracelet. The easy test would be to use a placebo bracelet and a PB bracelet. Don't let the person doing the AK test know which one the person is wearing. At that point, you will find that now the person doing this old carny trick will have to guess which bracelet the person is wearing. Wonder how well it will work?
kidvelvet 1 year ago
well... They already have done that: watch?v=yd0Gb9EgkHA&playnext=1&list=PLCFE6183515A7B3B5
The video itself is funny as hell, but for genuine unintentional comedy, you have to read the comments. Fuck me, some people really WANT to be scammed.
leungchaan 1 year ago 2
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You are really a joker and joke of the year showing your benny hill moves. LOL
My 1year 2 mths baby can balance properly when walking using PB.
Is it Placebo effect?, you tell that to a baby?
zepp3lin 1 year ago
@zepp3lin The placebo effect can be in the observer. With an assistant, try a blinded test, where you do not know when the baby is wearing the bracelet.
MrApolloTom 1 year ago
@MrApolloTom , I see, meaning the baby trick me into thinking that his walking more balance, what a smart brainy baby I'm having. I'm so lucky.
zepp3lin 1 year ago
@zepp3lin Google "Confirmation bias"
skepticzonepodcast 1 year ago 25
@zepp3lin Your baby's 14 months and just starting to walk? But getting better at it? Thank the Gods, the human race is saved.
How did you learn to walk, by the way, without a fakelet?
clamcyp 1 year ago
@clamcyp, yeah thank god for the bomb. I'm already walking inside the stomach.
zepp3lin 1 year ago
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@zepp3lin Your baby's fourteen months and only now learning to walk? But getting better at it? Thank the Gods, the human race is saved.
By the way, how did you learn to walk, without a fakelet?
clamcyp 1 year ago
@zepp3lin how about you tell that to all the PHD scientist who even said "this dosent follow any scientific laws whats so ever" and also the people on the review forums who were riped off by the product
gamerdudefilms 1 year ago
@gamerdudefilms I don't care and I don't bother
zepp3lin 1 year ago
@zepp3lin Post video proof. Don't forget to discuss your controls.
Maxdwolf 11 months ago
I would not call myself a believer in a.kinesiology. But this particular video does nothing to debunk it. He accuses them of pseudo science but the irony is that there is nothing remotely scientific in his approach either. He just gives his opinion on how the balancing test is done which btw would require one of the participants to be deliberately not trying, then this psychologist gives commonly repeated cliches. This isn't a debunking, just somebody's untested opinion presented w/o proof...
slpcgamer 1 year ago
@slpcgamer
The video title is your friend: "Applied Kinesiology - How it's Done ". Notice that it is not called "Debunking AK".
If you want reams of peer reviewed scientific papers or raw data, I suspect that looking for this at YouTube is looking in the wrong place.
FetchUnadvise 1 year ago
@slpcgamer "this particular video does nothing to debunk it"
Besides demonstrating that the closest thing these kooks have to evidence is trivially faked; that their testing techniques are flawed and invalid and thus, their claims of a causal relationship between shiny bracelets and balance is unfounded. That is debunking, actually. Go look it up in a dictionary.
etnlIcarus 1 year ago
@slpcgamer "this particular video does nothing to debunk it"
Besides demonstrating that the closest thing these kooks have to evidence is trivially faked; that their testing techniques are flawed and invalid and thus, their claims of a causal relationship between shiny bracelets and balance is unfounded. That is debunking, actually. Go look it up in a dictionary.
etnlIcarus 1 year ago
@slpcgamer "deliberately not trying, then this psychologist gives commonly repeated cliches"
Those cliches make it clear that it need not be deliberate at all. Dismissing it out of hand is not any kind of counter-argument. The truth is that such biases are the bane of even real scientists, not just charlatans. Owning up to them and doing everything you can to preclude them from influencing your outcomes is merely what separates science from quackery.
etnlIcarus 1 year ago
@slpcgamer He's revealing the trick. You can deny they're doing any tricking, but come on... why do you think they did those specific supposed tests? Because the results are easy to manipulate and cheat. They coulda went with balance beam walking but then the presenter couldn't push you this way and that.
tweaker1bms 1 year ago
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alexphjones 1 year ago
Found the link on the BBC. Cheers.
alexphjones 1 year ago
Disappointed. This video proves bugger all. They explain the marketing but not the results. The whole 'pushing down at an angle thing' doesn't cut it either. I've seen the balance test done by complete strangers with different angles and pressure points and the results are still the same.
And I don't buy into any of the 'science' or 'selling points' behind the bracelets. Still a skeptic, but still looking for a decent explanation. These smug self reflexive people don't seem to have one.
willmac969 1 year ago